I Quit Architecture // 1 Year Later

[@XanaXisis]

it will always be mindblowing to me, how since the very beggining of University, we as future architects are programmed to live for our jobs. We are programmed to only do Architecture, disregarding very important things, like hobbies, healthy food habits, sleep and overall social interactions.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Having a balance is so important!

[@davidpachecogarcia]

That “culture” def needs to end since we’re exposed to it so early in our careers. Trash mentality and overall clown behavior to be honest.

[@Sherwin337]

…that’s kind of sad isn’t it?

[@fredflintstone2234]

Ultimately, it’s a life choice. So if you have to leave, leave.

[@mankind5709]

30 years experience . The work and dedication is not the problem , it’s the dip shit clients that grind our souls into dust. We bust our ass for clients that in reality are not worth our time.

[@TheSmitty-js2rj]

After graduating Architecture school, I worked in the industry for 6 years. I interned and worked my way into a great local firm. I was apart of a very fast moving adaptation from school to the actual industry draft sets and packages. I spent the last two years at this firm; stressed, extremely grateful for the large projects I was apart of, and logging my hours for LEED and NCARB endorsements. Right before 4th of July break, my office owner pulled me up and stated they’re going to just replace me with an architect. Rather than keep training me. I wasted so much time. I got into the trades immediately after, and still do not regret it. I’m 27 making a lucrative living now. Maybe the industry wasn’t right for me, but I damn sure felt I was committed to becoming an architect. I’m glad where I am at now. I was extremely surprised the money I was making at multiple places wasn’t really a lot. Anyone that is considering, architects don’t make as much as you think, and often firms will work their younger draftsmen and women hard before they let them go.

[@benndanny12]

Congratulations! So glad it's worked out so well for you. Being an architect is a dogs life; You have to be incredibly well qualified, the competition is immense, the bureaucracy is mind numbing, the responsibility is overwhelming, the resistance is huge, the thanks you get is minimal and the financial rewards are pitiful. I'm leaving architecture at the end of this year and I'm going to make canoes. 🙂

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Hope you make it happen!

[@benndanny12]

@@DesignCraftWorkshop Thanks so much!

[@rr7firefly]

The memory of two consecutive all-nighters as a regular practice is still with me. Feeling like c_ap at breakfast in the campus dining hall before returning to the studio to finish a project. Lots of long hours. In retrospect, none of that was of much value, as it often depended on the profs who were serving as crits during design class and at the brutal juries. If I could I would revive some of those guys from the grave and give them a good talking to because they were of limited help in actually teaching us something of value. Several of them were cynical, showing signs of alcohol abuse. // A degree may be of some value but being an architect is no guarantee of a fulfilling life that generates money to pay bills. Good luck to everyone who believes in making the world a better place. Design is important but it should not entail anyone sacrificing themselves for it.

[@metabeard3788]

As an architect who does woodworking on the side, and follows 3 or 4 ex-architect woodworkers on youtube, this was good to hear. Glad it's working for you. Don't know if I'm ready to quit yet, but it feels like a backup job if architecture ever gets to be too much.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thank you! Definitely a lot to leave behind. Who do you follow that are ex-architects?

[@metabeard3788]

@@DesignCraftWorkshop Frank Howarth I believe is a retired architect. Chris Salomone I think went to arch school, but not sure if he practiced. Can't remember who the other person I was thinking of. And then you!

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

@@metabeard3788 nice! I follow them too. I didn't know Chris went to architecture school though. Ben Uyeda is another I follow that went to architecture school and taught studio as well.

[@metabeard3788]

@@DesignCraftWorkshop cool! I'll check him out

[@MisterMcKinney]

I never pulled All-nighters because I never wanted to be in the cultist mindset. I just saw the degree as a tool to get a decent job. It eventually worked.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

That's awesome 👍🏻

[@LaserMadeProducts]

Love this video, Bao! It's refreshing to hear another architect talk about venturing into something new and the struggles and success found along the way.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thanks Tim! I see you're are really hitting in the metaverse right now! Keep it going

[@davidpachecogarcia]

Venturing out of the typical arch path is always useful. And if you go back to traditional arch, let’s be real it’ll still be the same so you’re not missing much.

[@Life_Architects_00]

Let's say that if you're a good architect you can also be good in many other fields because what architecture leaves you with is the mindset of a problem solver and the creative process. So surely the last ten years have not been wasted even if you have changed professions, in fact, they will probably help you for the rest of your life so good luck! 😉

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Absolutely! I don’t regret the decision and being an architect as definitely helped me be a better craftsman

[@rr7firefly]

Yes, that is a very good point to make.

[@tjuricek]

This is a great summary of what it means to transition careers. A lot of people wax poetic about “doing what you love” and sometimes forget that being a professional means your boss is now your clients, and all that entails. It’s not always easy to figure out and there’s challenges no matter what. You seem to have planned well and I suspect your approach and mindset will be the source of your continued success. This is giving me a lot to consider as I ponder my own career. I’m a professional software engineer working for large companies. What I’ve noticed in woodworking is a sense of completion and feedback that seems to be missing in my professional life. It’s not that I want to drop everything at go for woodworking, but instead, try to find a different path where I can see the value of my contributions more clearly.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

I'm glad this gave you some insights. I think the benefit comes when you can select your own clients. It helps with the feeling of having a “boss.” the Japanese have the concept of IKIGAI which is finding one’s purpose through a balance of passion, mission, and work. Hope you're able to find that for yourself.

[@Bralvis]

I really appreciate your bravery and honesty in sharing this with us, Bao! I love this video. Thank you for such a kind and encouraging message.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

I hope it was helpful ☺️

[@davidpachecogarcia]

Really encouraging and making me speak about my transition out of an industry that is easily prone to toxic behavior.

[@drewmagnus3564]

Loving the channel, Bao. Great to hear your backstory, very inspiring! The quality of your videos are top notch, you’ve a distinct style and you are creating a fantastic back catalogue that allows newbies to your channel (like me) to binge! I know at the moment the numbers aren’t that high but from what I’ve noticed watching other channels at an early stage (Scott Brown Carpentry, Lincoln Street etc) that one video somehow explodes and they sudden leap up to 100,000 subscribers. I’m sure this channel will do the same and wishing you all the best in your journey.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thanks man! I appreciate the kind words. As long as someone finds value, I think it's a win. 🙏🏼

[@joshkwd8527]

I hope you find what you are looking for, amazing videos. I am just like you - ended up being an Optometrist and can't wait to hang up my gloves and get into building. Thank you for the inspiration!

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

You got this! Glad you found it helpful!

[@Pop_Gordo]

I love your transparency about the whole process. I was introduced to you through the live streams with Andy and now I follow you on both my personal and professional IG and YT. I’ve really enjoyed watching your journey. You have seem to have a core base of fans that support you virtually. You’re killing it, man.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thank you! It's been a challenging but rewarding process.

[@LuisSanchez-wf9zw]

Your story has inspired me greatly at the right time in my life to take the inevitable leap I have been delaying. It’s strange how much creative people like us share in what we do to get here and want to create. Thank you Bao for making this video.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

I'm glad to hear it gave you some inspiration. I do hope it turns out well for you 🙌🏻

[@AGduzit]

Congrats buddy!! Taking that leap was only the beginning. Super excited to see you grow into your new element!

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thanks man! It's been a great year. Challenging but exciting

[@AndyBirdBuilds]

Your style and attention to detail is and will continue to lead to success!

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thanks man!

[@allenedwardcamungao6311]

I once dreamt of becoming an architect and I still have that dream in my heart up to this day. But I think that dream is slowly fading away. Now I think that my heart is into teaching because of my online teaching experience. But I'm still open to a lot of possibilities in my future. ☺️

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

If you find joy and happiness, then go for it 👍🏻

[@allenedwardcamungao6311]

@@DesignCraftWorkshop I will. ☺️☺️☺️

[@naisvic]

Found your Channel today. And I’m grateful.🙏

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thank you!

[@s.a.1083]

Man, Im about to finish my second year of arch undergrad after 3 more finals.. I think about switching out of architecture everyday, but I just dont know what else I can pursue and it took a lot of hard work to get to where I am so it feels a little bad to quit, but im really scared of being unsatisfied in the future and slaving away for a measly salary. I just hope once I figure out whether I want to stay or leave it wont be too late

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

I totally get it. My recommendation to all college students is to intern at local firms. That would be the best way for you to get experience on what the real day to day life of an architect is. IT can and is a rewarding profession, but it's not for everyone. Best of luck!

[@jaykepley5238]

Nice story. Congratulations on how this has turned out for you. It's all about the journey, indeed. Really enjoy your channel.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thanks so much Jay!

[@AceWoodCo]

Love seeing the growth and honesty in this video! I feel like I'm on this same journey as you haha excited to see where you take it man!

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thanks man! Trying to keep it real 👍🏻😆

[@chesian]

thanks for sharing your story man. whenever the day comes and i return back stateside, you can expect me to come knocking with some business.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Nice! Can't wait for it!

[@fosteredwoodworks]

I'm exciting to see you continue to grow!

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thanks so much man!

[@garagemonkeysan]

Awesome film. Super honest and informative. Great story telling. Can't believe it's been a year already. Super happy you're living the dream. It's obvious you work your butt off. Mahalo for sharing! : )

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thanks man! Honestly... it's a clown show after the cameras are off 🤣

[@musababur2555]

i think i wasted time . Got myself depressed, have backache, my eye sight has been fucked ! zero social circle. Just a big void inside myself and i always wanted to run away

[@Chamametschi]

Wow.. this is how I feel now after 5 years of Arch. Being 25 and having to start again because I don't want to continue this path, got sick, severely depressed and lost. Not the only one

[@aidar7382]

Great inspiration! Thank you so much for sharing your story with all details!Happy for you, all the best!

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thank you so much!

[@dimitarpljachkov7944]

Thank you so much for this. much love

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thank you!

[@thegravytrain1129]

Glad it's working out so far! You do awesome work!

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thanks man

[@designlovedesign]

You are amazing 👏 Happy that you are doing great 🙏

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thank you Griciela!

[@billiewhitefly9432]

very inspiring Bao. keep up all the good work.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thanks Scarlett! Hope you're well!!

[@joeriego7579]

i think a lot of things that you talked about here has something to do with finding your IKIGAI. all the best and more power. i just subscribed :)

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

IKIGAI! That's perfect

[@tigrankhachatryan1468]

Thanks for the video!

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thank you!

[@Motivation_One88]

I love your work my man 👌

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thanks man

[@tenforward7485]

In my experience the thing that disillusioned young architects don’t realise is that they are ready made for a career as a builder but that never occurs to them because they see builders as a “working class” job. Most small builders are incompetent because the traditional training route has disappeared and the typical builder does not have mental skills to learn and keep up with regs and material science etc. newly qualified architects are ready to go, all you need is a few years apprenticing to good builder to pick up the physical skills.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

I agree 👍🏻

[@musababur2555]

hello my name is musa . and im from pakistan! i am going through the same thing and always found myself passionate about getting into architecture but gradually it faded away and now i do furniture. Doing this degree kinda of gave me a direction but i studied alot, it was a hardcore journey and i just couldnt see architecture as i used to. but i think if youre really really crazy about this field u should do it otherwise go for something else cause its not as interesting as it sounds

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

I think you can take what you learned and apply it to your furniture. It's a great way to get ahead because of your design background.

[@martagavi]

hi! im planning to go into architecture, and every architect on the internet seems to hate it, so if anyone reading this is an architect please explain why you hate it/were disillusioned/love it bc im honestly so fucking scared

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

My suggestion would be to works a summer job at an architecture firm. You’ll get the best experience there.

[@cynthiaolmedo7192]

Thank you for posting this video Bao. I plan to use this insight when speaking with college students about finding their purpose and their career. Knowing what you know now, would you have changed your degree/major? Or was it just part of the process?

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thanks Cynthia! I think it really is a part of the process. I wouldn't have done it differently and I feel like this is where I would have ended up. My advice would be for students to really work in the field they are interested in. Hands-on training and experience is something I wished I had more of earlier on.

[@mortybisnought8134]

Great Video

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thank you!

[@miltonwelch4177]

Boring job in half a dozen architectural firms made me switch to interior design field. Still with the low pay I, at least, had a professional satisfaction to be involved in the project from the start to finish, including meetings with the client. My drawings were so good that the woodwork company who won the bid on one of my projects, almost jokingly, offered me a job to be free lance draftsman/engineer and site supervisor for the jobs assigned to me. Almost a double the salary that I was being paid as a designer and the the prospect of remote work from home - concept recognized much later during the "pandemic", made me accept the offer. Design urge I satisfy by occasional free lance work with the local interior designer -cabinetry and woodwork part. Less pay of course but an opportunity to be involved in high quality design projects made it OK. Such is the world of someone coming from the modest financial background that some, if not the most, in this profession can relate to.

[@howardliu5220]

back in the days, china had no architects. carpenters (woodworking experts) are the architects and they make amazing beautiful architecture that live in the natural environment ;) keep up the amazing work, bao!

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thanks so much Howard!

[@jeanpaul4100]

I spent 5 years getting my masters in architecture. Then i apprenticed for another 4 years. Then i built my first project. A neighbor in the area didnt like me building and burned my nearly complete project to the ground one night. Although insurance paid some of the losses i went bankrupt and quit the business.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Oh boy....glad you're alive

[@redsak5311]

Wow. Sabotage. That’s demoralizing. Sorry.

[@lemilemi5385]

Best of luck

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thank you!

[@MahanFarzad]

what is the music credits?

[@markschuette3770]

i quite architecture a few years ago after 10 yrs. in the architecture and building business- because of the poor design customers and builders want!! shit they can't even site the structure to collect the winter sun ! and minimize the summer sun! it should be code to face your roof south for PV panels. and insulate to 2/3 times what code is! and get some mass inside to collect and hold that heat thru the evening. most architects care more about how cute/conventional/cheap the structure is instead of making an environmental structure for the future!

[@mdatiqurrahmankhan3085]

Thank you.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thank you!

[@mankind5709]

Use your problem solving skills in other careers , you’ll be surprised how many problems you can solve, you just need to use those particular skills for your benefit. As architects we are trained to solve everyone’s problems , use it to make some money and peace of mind.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Yes indeed!

[@kleelee2670]

underrated, underpaid profession with one of the highest liabilities (imo). Glad you made the jump and happy : )

[@aaaaaa2206]

Why is it expected of architects to not sleep, eat enough and have unorganized lives, being slaves of their profession? It's so counter productive and unnecessarily inhumaine. Also, newer buildings and contemporary architecture is uniform, boring, unnatural and inhumaine...like the working hours. Maybe if the way architects worked changed, the buildings would change as well. Maybe the designs are a reflection of the designers. Also architects usually don't think about the environment of the building (and I don't mean other buildings and artificial objects). Designing the greenery around the buildings should be 50% of the work. Big cities are degenerating people in their current state, it should change.

[@gniewnypiotr]

In 10-20 year there will be a collapse of the proffession due to the lack of a good architects. Now, everyone - especially telented and ambitious - are leaving the proffesion because they could do well (and earn good money) doinge eveything else.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

There is something to be said about that 👍🏻

[@janmamanansala10]

🙌🏼💯‼️

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Thank you!

[@Grace_87Z]

It’s 3 years in the Uk

[@WonkyWillowWorkshop]

7 years is the shortest time to be able to be fully qualified and able to call youself an Architect in the UK.

[@fergiemon18]

I want to quit architecture too 😭😭

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

Hope it works out for you!

[@aspirant8780]

Why ?

[@Ixorpehc]

The education is the worst ROI of any training, and the universities don't care about the fate of the industry and their graduates. There's so many barriers in between barriers towards earning a license, and the pay and benefits are laughable. The hours are long with no over time pay, and the projects are pure mediocre abominations. Sometimes management acts like a psychotic cult, expecting you to treat work like it's your personal religion, even when the project champions the slum lord over people. The construction industry don't really respect your work and treat you as a walking reference manual and rubber stamp. It is most ridiculous how one downturn in the economy can ruin an entire industry and throw the workforce into unemployment. Ultimately, the world laughs at the ambiguity and insignificance of your contribution in architecture. I'm glad I'm going to tech school and transitioning to a new career. Good riddance.

[@JohnVKaravitis]

Bad businessman, who never mastered the salesmanship side of the profession. Ever read "The Fountainhead", or seen the movie? People don't come to you. You have to sell yourself to them.

[@DesignCraftWorkshop]

I think that’s a separate issue. Being fulfilled with the work was the main factor.