I Quit Destiny 2, and learned something shocking.

[@AscendantNomad]

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[@rood6422]

U can hop on Warframe, Palworld, or Helldivers for a bit. Kick back and relax my guy, and have fun.

[@TheRealRuddRants]

Just no.

[@Blinkxys]

Hi Nomad you have no idea how this video resonates so much with me, i am 32 as well and quit D2 for the same reasons as you. Surely playing other games made things even clearer to me and am glad you came to the same realization with D2. Am not sure you will read my comment but do know that you are not alone feeling this way and always appreciate your honesty and transparency in your videos. If you feel like you want to talk about it further let me know we can connect on discord or whatever ;)

[@ten4c10us_ace]

I think I'm gonna try this out. Looks clean!

[@yamabushido6238]

Yeah I think this is just GernaderJake's video/pov repeated with all of the backlash and criticism of that equally valid here. Yes taking a break might well help you feel more positive (if that's what you're seeking of) and criticism may get more views even if you're adverse to said "negativity". However both are subtle or not so subtle ways of avoiding the many valid issues, and instead "Victim" - blaming (nb in quotes, in terms of consumer-blaming) rather than having of an honest look at the DEVASTATING MISTAKES Bungie choices made on an otherwise stellar or potentially stellar game. So, yeah, enjoy your break and your temporary high on return, but all those clangers are there ready waiting for you and everyone else. Those are REAL endemic issues that need real action and real steering of course to correct. Possibly Sony will end up having to do this for better or worse.

[@graysonramon1803]

What makes me cry sometimes is it wasn’t like bo2 or titanfall or other games from my childhood that were a blast and I remember only the best times. Cause for other games I just don’t remember when I stopped playing. They’re like frozen in a nostalgic part of my brain. So is destiny 1, but d2 isn’t. I’ve watched all my friends slowly fade away from it. My little corner of the destiny universe is gone. I will always remember my d1 days, I hope I never forget them.

[@KalanosYT]

We also didn't play these games for a decade straight.

[@Zevox144]

We've been playing Destiny literally five times longer than our other golden age games, it's only natural that we'd get burnt out eventually tbh

[@Tullminator]

😢😢😂😂😂

[@CollectiveFates]

Modding old consoles took some of my time.

[@CRVSE]

Because youre playing Destiny for a lot longer than these games. Even playing D2 for a lot longer than D1.

[@xiath6]

In the end it really was about the friends we made along the way.

[@Dred-Rivals]

What if you’re a solo player or play with your family

[@BewitchedNyi]

​​@@Dred-Rivals 💩 🧠 🎉

[@Dred-Rivals]

@@BewitchedNyiok it was a joke… and I usually play destiny with my brothers, lets us do stuff together while they’re away at college

[@BewitchedNyi]

@@Dred-Rivals Yeah alright that is fair enough 😎👍

[@BarderBetterFasterStronger]

And they all quit playing because the game is fuckin stale asf

[@jamescruz8678]

this man touched grass fuck yeah

[@Michael-ee4uz]

You mean the virtual grass in other games, right?

[@unabalazura]

Fuck yeah

[@axe2grind244]

Well….touched sand lol. Not much grass in Dubai.

[@Thund3rstone]

Really touching grass would mean to recognize that Destiny 2 is too expensive for what it delivers and stop playing NOW. Instead he wants people to play less for the same amount of money, just like Gernader Jake. I begin to see a pattern here... .

[@algrum4265]

Exotic: 9R4SS acquired Exotic ability joy You get be happy again..... :)

[@tomwarren]

This was spot on. I hope Final Shape goes out with a bang big enough to bring back friends I’ve lost that no longer play, so we can have one last moment of Destiny magic before walking away for good.

[@AndrewOnYoutube]

Taking a step away has made me realize how much Destiny needs to innovate

[@Bill-e-Goat]

Too late I stepped back a couple of years ago. You will realize it was a good call.

[@Hofey]

The enemies are so boring. If they did a massive ai overhaul I’d have a lot more fun playing PvE.

[@MarkisWillis]

Neither of you are being honest. There's no way you stepped away and felt that other games are doing much better, hardly, at all. If I ever step away, it's not long before I miss the solid game play, long game sessions with friends doing whatever, and just messing around in the game doing any number of fun activities.

[@cimirie01]

@@MarkisWillis - BINGO!!! This right here. I am the first to say D2 has problems. Gameplay loop. Nickel and diming. PVP. Cheaters. On and on and on. THAT SAID, all you need to do is look at the forums and whenever the next “can’t miss, amazing” game comes out people say they’re leaving for that game. (Helldivers is that game de jour) And every single time within a month, the vast majority are back. Sure the new game can be fun and different and a solid investment. But pretty much everybody says “it ain’t destiny,” and can’t hold attention for very long. I firmly believe Bungie is being really mismanaged right now and terrible decisions are being made to negatively impact thr game over and over. But the foundation of the game itself was so good to begin with, the underlying foundational gameplay itself is so much more satisfying than anything else on the market that over time, others just don’t measure up. I say this as somebody who is loving hell divers and thoroughly enjoyed Diablo (for awhile), and had a lot of fun with Starfield. All of them were pretty and new and alot of fun to figure out.

[@rebcommando587]

Play any game for a long time then step back from it for the same effect​@@Bill-e-Goat

[@mrchun4018]

The headboard for your bed looks like an ice cream sandwich.

[@AscendantNomad]

What if it is

[@xThat1Guyxx]

@@AscendantNomadcan I get a bite?

[@cavemanprdr3235]

Factual

[@vincesims8839]

Now I can't unsee it LMAO 😂😂

[@5ylokTheDefiled]

I was rushing to the comments to say this exact thing

[@jayv231_]

I quit like 6 months ago and can truly say I'm enjoying gaming again. I will probably be done after final shape as well. I've played since D1 beta and just can't enjoy the game anymore, plus my clan/ friends are all off of it too.

[@EternalBeatbox]

you sir are true veteran, hats off to you for sticking around so long, i started a mouth before the taken king launch so i been around awhile myself i finally quit after beyond light ended. the end of an era.

[@davidhodge0201]

I think you pointed out your problem, destiny is a game best enjoyed with friends. If you have no friends playing it, it will lose alot of its fun factor. Sure you can have fun solo but it is limited to a finite amount. Hanging out with the boys, destiny still feels as fresh as ever, by myself. I can take it and enjoy little bites, bit that's all.

[@TheLesserFairchild]

Same, brother. D1 beta player as well. I honestly haven't touched the game in over 2 months. Don't be sad it's over, be glad it happened

[@bigm8120]

Same here first day D1 beta player and I can say that as we grew up we noticed the bad patterns that bungie have done with the destiny franchise and now I think people are just growing apart from destiny like an old high school friend

[@ayylmao5973]

⁠​⁠@@davidhodge0201I have friends who still play it but I don’t think I can subject myself again to the brain rot that is Destiny 2’s game loop and abuse of FOMO. This is coming from someone who has played Destiny for 7 years and gotten everything they can out of endgame Destiny PVP and PVE.

[@skylar9046]

Listening to this... It's making me realize why I stopped. I was forcing the enjoyment and had never realized it. Playing other games - ones I hadn't gotten a chance to because spending so much time in D2 - was so enjoyable. Although, I don't think I'm coming back to the game. I burned myself out in such a cruel manner that it ruined it. I screwed it up so badly. The core memories of Destiny - 1 and 2 - won't leave. But the things that had happened a few months before... I think I realized that it was just time to stop. I haven't touched D2 for months - four at this point. I think it's honestly been for the better. I'm not sticking around for playing The Final Shape, but I still enjoy watching anyone playing it. Times and people change, and I got stuck with memories that just can't be remade. Regardless of whether I still play or not, thanks for all the fun videos, Nomad. Will keep watching until the channel ends.

[@EternalBeatbox]

i agree, i quit after beyond light ended, it felt like a good spot to put it down, tbh i don't even game in general anymore.

[@gaigekinsey7414]

Yep, 7 months since logging in and I've had a blast playing so many other games. Really not sure if I'll buy or play The Final Shape unless there's some big innovation or a lot of my friends play it, but that seems unlikely since they all quit too.

[@GeoGyf]

Thats better actually that you burned yourself out, because you wont really miss it. Myself i quit in Season of Seraph (just before Lightfall) because i could see the writing on the wall. I gues if you still have that itch for D2, Bungie will have an event in April 9 where it will have gear that will take you to current light, and they are bring iconic weapons from D2 (they will be timelocked though, half initially & 1 new weapon per week). For my part i'll just watch a YT playthrough of Final Shape.

[@antonleimbach648]

I’m 54 and just started playing Destiny 2 a couple of months ago. I’ve been having a blast and wish we had games back in the 1980’s like this. The graphics, weapons, maps, all of it it’s crazy. Yes, I suck but I don’t give a good god dam. I play PvP for a while every day and even have had a couple of good games. Life goes by so fast, enjoy it or it will eat you up.

[@LiterallySomeDude]

I appreciate how poetic, yet relatable your dialog is. You expressed my exact feeling towards a game, a community I've been apart of since the Beta (2014). I needed this break from destiny. Thanks

[@lohengrin9127]

I stepped back into the game recently and i really appreciate the little things of the game, the noises trees make blowing in the wind, the general world design and appreciating all the time and effort that went into designing it all. Even the way the different guns sound, at the end of the day individual experience should determine your own outlook on the game.

[@cortspadet]

Destiny is flawed but doing things no other game is lol that simple. I love PvP and PvE, they just need to substantial with content, especially story. Helps give shape to the enemies we battle.

[@lohengrin9127]

@@cortspadet honestly that's where I feel that playing for a long time adds up I've seen the stories, origins and lore of most enemy types in game and now some we even call allies. There is no lie the game needs to make changes but every individual is different and will find things they enjoy about the game, solo or with friends. TLDR: Do your own thing, have fun and as always, "Eyes up Guardian".

[@akdreamer6497]

I appreciate the hundreds I have to spend to even play 50% of the content lol

[@jericohellsangel594]

It´s not just you getting older, but you not experiencing new good things. I was sitting there multiple times thinking i am bored of games but then games like Elden Ring come around ever so rarely and i am hooked and i cannot stop anymore. And i am around your age aswell Nomad. The best way to "Deal" with it is to look forward to new things and get excited. Of course Destiny will never hit as hard anymore. Same goes for Elden Ring for me now that i´ve put over 150 hours into it. But a new game might do that again and again and i am all for it. Life moves on, time moves on and so should everyone. Cherish what good you had and make sure more of this will happen in the future.

[@gabeburgos2953]

Absolutely, I feel this very much. I started playing destiny to get away from hypersweat Enlisted PVP matches, and to hang with friends. Eventually, D2 became the hypersweat game. So when I got burnt out, I picked up Titanfall and Enlisted again, and I began to love games again

[@Travelers_chosen_damaged]

Same

[@rkrams1989]

Is enlisted good , I see their adds and they look like a gacha mobile game, is it good

[@pouf875]

Me too. I also realized PvP is useless in terms of rewards, for the most part

[@rkrams1989]

@@Spellington that sounds very good will check it out 👍

[@gabeburgos2953]

@@rkrams1989 I think so at least, as a player with a couple hundred hours into it. Not at all a gacha, its a Gaijin game with a massive tech tree, but no lootboxes. Watch Drewski's video on the game if you want to see it

[@spartanzealot9]

This is one of the best pieces of content you've ever made. I loved every second of it. Well done, and thank you. No notes.

[@MacticsG1]

Banger

[@JonYugen]

Lesson no.1 is definitely something some of the other content creators need to do more often considering the ones I used to watch a year before I quit are still STRICTLY only playing D2 and I have no idea how.

[@ihatevnecks7015]

I know for some content creators it's not even about enjoyment - it's purely a fear of losing revenue if they try to branch out. But there are plenty of others who do it because they just straight up wouldn't ever consider a different game from the one they're playing even if they weren't streamers.. and that's so damn foreign to me.

[@theneedlessmage6826]

6:55 Really hit home for me. Having to be negative to put food on the table is not a healthy or sustainable way to go through life. I trained for years to do a job that I ended up kinda hating. But I realised what really made me miserable wasn't so much the job as it was continually hearing myself complain about it. Truth is, I think Destiny is basically fine. And it's not like there’s nothing to do... We're just bored of it at this point - AND THATS OK! I've never understood the community's obsession with either "sticking with it" or "quitting Destiny". I've been playing video games for 30 years and I can't remember a single game I've ever "quit". I would just start playing something else. Some games I'd come back and play again - ocasially many many times - and others I'd forget about. I no-lifed D1, met awesome people, and loved it to bits, but D2 I've dropped in and out of many times. Sometimes I'd obsess for a month, then forget about it and come back a while later. And you know what...? It's fine! You don't actually miss that much and you catch up again pretty quickly. So yeah - if you're having fun with it that's great! You dont need to justify yourself to anyone! Likewise, if you've been playing for years and you're bored, that's natural; you dont need to uninstall - just try something else. It doesnt need to be Ride-or Die!

[@Gohma55]

Per audacia ad astra, wherever you may go. We look forward to seeing you again.

[@he8535]

The destiny fan base having life changing journeys while they wait for the next big dlc

[@Monkeman356]

Dude i realized that after i left the game the entire game was centered around trying to keep my attention but i always tell myself the same thing that the old Nintendo ceo used to say "if it isn't fun why bother". I loved the dungeons but not everything can be centered around horde based things and i was happy when they announced the horde........but it had a timer and who cares about all these craftable weapons when I've been using the same thing for about a year absolutely decimating all bosses solo in my dungeons. And like most d2 players i explored and found Warframe and dude i can have a custom area suited to my need like a whole liveable area to test things out and everything and i was shocked that everything was free in Warframe

[@timewaster504]

My friend and I took a several month break, best thing we ever did. We now only play when we have a specific thing we want to do.

[@TheMrPadawan]

This is what I started doing and it's SO much better. In the off D2 times I've been enjoying FFXIV and No Man's Sky.

[@CastleContent]

Very well put together my friend.

[@LlamaD2]

Great video! I too just came back from a month away from the game and it definitely made me reflect on why I play it, and the point you made about the memories is spot on. Here's hoping TFS is a banger and we can all make it out of the content trenches!

[@Savon_the_gallent_knight]

When I quit destiny two I felt like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders. Then I realized who was making my life worse.

[@dragoslove]

Nomad brings balance to the force. Or at least the crucible. Well... maybe not that.

[@coffeechat-bunbun]

The biggest reason I left was the story. I am so sick of them removing previous expansions/seasons, so I was very lost when I came back at the end of WQ and the start of LF. D1 base story was broken up, so when TTK came out with a solid story, I was so happy. RW in D2 was so satisfying (that it was a story, the story itself was meh) but I left shortly afterwards. Second reason I left... the price tag to play the entire game. $120 for a full expansion experience? No thank you. The Battle Pass mech in Live Service games was the worst idea. Plus, most of the DLC is found in some other DLC you can end up spending $500+ because they were not clear on what is in each DLC. I just cannot stand it any more because I have spent more $$$ here than any other game I have ever played.

[@ChrisLee83]

Nomad speaking the truth. I've been away from D2 for almost a whole year for exactly the reasons you said. Too busy to go back at the moment, but solid points about balance. "Time better spent living well" 💯💯💯

[@moonburntowl]

As a D1 Beta vet, ive been a solo player since the beginning. Ive loved the game through its ups and downs, and it was a huge part of my childhood and teen years. Ive never experienced a raid or dungeon, or many of the late game high-tier activities. Unfortunately this game has become like a subscription, and i can no longer afford it, so im going to get Final Shape to give myself a send off, then ill be leaving.

[@Oopster37]

Every time I see a Nomad notification, I get a video as good, if not better than the last one.

[@FancythatTF]

I think the biggest deterioration of my love for destiny came from playing and trying to justify continuing to play, PVP. The PVE in this game is incredibly fun, i like playing it with my friends, I love doing it, Raids are fun, dungeons are fun, GMs are fun, getting my triple hundy stats was fun. Playing trials? Spending hours upon hours screaming at my screen, raging, getting mad, burnt out, tired, all for a ship, sparrow and ghost shell. After getting two of the three, then the skimmer came out, I ended up deciding to quit trials for good, especially after realizing the reason why i ever flawlessed on my own in the first place was because of the "crutch" Weapons that the community universally loathes, I feel no satisfaction in what i did, i feel like i never improved, i just cheesed. However, playing with my buddies in PVE is always nice. i'll love this game for that, and probably wont ever be burnt out.

[@ChillMickelson]

Nothing beats that dopamine hit of playing a new game for the first time, and genuinely having fun. Still remember that feeling of playing on First Light in the D1 beta and thinking "this is FUN". Always good to play new games and get a change of scenery every once in a while.

[@arayukime]

I quit Destiny 2 right before Witch Queen, big life stuff happened. Didnt touch any games for 6 months... And its been the best decision for enjoying games that I've ever made. I've played so many games from my back log and have actually FINISHED so many titles. Nothing beats the feeling of actually completing a full game. I realized how much I hate the "endless evolving storyline" and enjoy shorter, more detailed and meaningful story and characters.

[@DEMONBONES8]

With you, I'm finishing up the DLC and then retiring from gaming as a whole. IRL is finally moving the way I want, and it's going to start getting in the way. Plus, gaming isn't fun to me anymore. I wish everyone well in the game and IRL.

[@MrMulinn]

I have no Connection to destiny 2 or shooters in general, so dunno why I clicked on this Video, BUT... this video really hit home for me! For me it was Guild Wars 2. I played it almost exclusively for years and as time went on I just became more and more frustrated, till I just stopped playing and was really bitter, almost hated the game. Switched games around, found new communities new hobbies, new games to mess around in. When I came back to my old "home" I didn't feel the same connection as back then, but I had fun again. I enjoyed my time in the game after so long! The one thing that changed for me in gaming is... I don't get to involved in Communities anymore. Like you said: to much input from outside just isn't healthy for a relationship to a game.

[@Heli]

beautifully written and spoken, this resonated with me a lot. fantastic video, you handsome devil.

[@veshrmy9637]

Finally, I’ve waited for sometime for any of my fav destiny content creators still playing or not, to make this video. It needed to happen.

[@DancingViru]

omg I think you sort of just explained what I think the core issue is with the way Bungie (execs) handles Destiny 2: Players started chasing that "high". That became the core community of the game. And then the game switched to a content model & structure matching this phenomenon of chasing past "highs". And boom: recipe for the burnout machine. Random joy, secrets & excitement have been replaced by routine, expectancy & reliability. I can't remember when the last time was that I got a loot drop that I didn't know about in advance through a TWAB preview. And due to the API, & the way social media algorithm works, any unannounced drop will eventually reach our eyes/ears ahead of time anyway. I stuck around because of the lore. I've been reading the grimoire cards since the launch of VoG in D1 vanilla. I loved when there were revelations to be concluded by piecing together different bits of lore, hinting at larger worldbuilding. I loved discovering the mysteries of Destiny's universe. But more importantly, I loved the conversations & speculations around them. It's not that the mysteries are gone, but rather, they've been oversimplified now. You can see them from miles away, on conveyor belts, racing towards you. Some story threads, that were part of the Light & Darkness storyline, have been pushed to the sides, to make the conclusion of the story line be just about the Witness. The complexities & depth of Destiny's universe has been shrunk, & talking about it's worldbuilding is just not exciting to me anymore. And that's sad, because none of the other games' worldbuilding intrigued me as much as Destiny's did, & I still haven't found a replacement.

[@TheNikStef]

Was anyone else distracted by how clean that room behind him was?

[@demoniob4019]

welcome back to the grind

[@noticeddamian]

Gaming has become so much more fun since quitting destiny about 10 months ago,I’ve played and enjoyed many more games from my backlog and it made me realise what a chore (almost like a second job)it was to play destiny.

[@dukenukem19888]

You made it a chore. The key to enjoying Destiny is to let go of the FOMO

[@mathias5256]

@@dukenukem19888I don’t think that’s entirely on the player. Most of the seasonal quests now are; Listen to dialogue, do mission, do playlist stuff, do that mission again, listen to dialogue, see you next week. Hell even some of the campaigns make you go do busywork just to pad out the playtime. The game is great but that doesn’t make the encouraged gameplay loop feel any less like a chore.

[@spartacus6256]

@@dukenukem19888destiny is majority FOMO. To let go of the FOMO is to let go of a majority of destiny’s content.

[@ozzysmith2571]

The game systems themselves are designed specifically to enforce that. ​@@dukenukem19888

[@dukenukem19888]

@@spartacus6256 lmao no. Another gun will come around that’s equal to or better than the one you missed. There’s literally hundreds of viable options.

[@mclovin6410]

Been playing destiny since I was 16, I’m 27 now & everything you explained in this video completely mirrors what I’m going through with the game. Those memories of amazing friends, the community, aimlessly running around with your fireteam trying to discover something beyond the unknown. I’m grateful for those epic moments.

[@cochi2221]

Thanks for this video... I'm 28 and the last few weeks/months have been difficult. I don't enjoy Destiny 2 anymore, in fact, I rarely enjoy playing other games. I don't know what is happening to me. That surge of adrenaline and joy is simply not there and I don't know what to do to feel better. I don't even enjoy my job anymore. Back in the day, I was so eager and active about learning new things but now, everything feels like a burden. I do things only because I HAVE to, rather than doing things because I WANT to do them. Tbh I don't know even know how to express myself. Anyway... Feels good to open up and talk about these things. You'll not lose a subscriber, I promise

[@UshankaMaster]

This is alarming. Plenty of D2 players with such problems, including me. Brain damage from an addiction or something. Though I do enjoy the other single player games from my backlog I’m trying out right now. I regret not spending time on them when I bought them.

[@b0mberman]

Make sure you don’t get yourself in a rut and getting depressed. Maybe you should start a new hobby or something to get you out of that mindset.

[@AdiposePhin]

I can relate, but I'm 44.

[@TeKnoVKNG23]

Part of the issue with becoming a content creator, your favorite game becomes work and you wind up hating it/not enjoying it. Obviously Bungie has had issues with Destiny 2 for a long time now, but as someone who doesn't no life the game, it has never been bad to a point of "burn out" for me. I have about 700 hours on D2, but I also play other games throughout the week. I personally have never seen how content creators could play this game 8+ hours a day as it just simply doesn't(and has never) have the content to support that kind of playstyle and there really isn't enough good loot to grind for. While Bungie has sucked for several years now, I think a lot of this also falls on the creators who just no life these games and don't branch out. When you tie your entire brand to one game, you're going to eventually burn out unless you find a way to balance your life and habits away from the game. You do anything for 8+ hours a day and you're going to have burnout/get bored at some point.

[@CmdrVOODOO]

I have not booted the game since 5/23/23 (I know because it was the day after my son's birthday which was on a Monday last year). I played the intro mission for the season that Tuesday, saw it was more of the same thing and uninstalled. I'm 100% done. I'll watch someone play The Final Shape on twitch to find out what happens, but I have zero interest in spending any more of my money, or especially, any more of my time in Destiny. I can't believe it's been almost a year.

[@neon9152]

At this point I'm too invested, so many years, to not finish the story. But I think after that I'm out unless there are huge changes.

[@Foeshty]

This video is exactly what I needed to hear. I've been spending all of lightfall thoroughly enjoying my time in destiny, yet feeling suffocated by a community trying to convince me it's awful. I've felt barrated by the Tiktok hivemind that I should stop playing Destiny and play Helldivers 2 or Elden Ring instead when those games simply aren't as fun to me. This constant blaring of the mainstream video game audience making me feel like I'm somehow wrong for finding good things to say about destiny and finding flaws in those other games gets really exhausting. Disconnecting from every one of these larger communities probably really is the healthiest thing for me to do, and that is exactly what I will be doing.

[@liamspruyt]

the issue was for me story, money focus and management of weapons.

[@rettwoods]

Stepping away makes me realize that no other game has better gunplay.

[@markmurex6559]

Yeah, D2 is the best in that category. The addiction and grinding are the worst aspects of D2.

[@robertscott5092]

But is that STILL enough?

[@Kudian]

I come back to Destiny every once in a while to see how things are. I don't really watch videos on it, I try to avoid discourse over it on social media, etc. After stepping away like I have, I realize the only thing that kept me playing was two thing: -The want for things to be like they were -My clanmates I don't really have anyone to game with, especially outside of Destiny. But Destiny has my clanmates who do get on every once in a while. So I would stay on the game so I wouldn't have to game alone. But eventually I couldn't do it anymore and needed to leave the game. And it was the best decision I could've made. I'm still working on it, but I'm enjoying gaming again. And with all of these new indie games being released, it's a greater time than ever to play new games. Destiny is always going to have a special place in my heart because of the memories I have and the milestone it represented. But I think after The Final Shape, my time as a Destiny player is likely over. I'm growing up, and the game has grown up in a different way that doesn't fit me, anymore.

[@JadeRabbitEmperor]

FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE GETS IT! I’ve been saying that the biggest issue in D2 isn’t D2 or Bungie but the echo chamber of negativity within the community for months!

[@irishswtpea]

I really appreciate how honest and level headed you are. You’re such a wonderful part of the Destiny community, whatever part that looks like in the future.

[@noahr9054]

bro some of u guys are acting like taking a break from this game is like quitting a job like god damn its not all that😂

[@liamcurtin]

When your source of income is based solely on playing a video game yea tell that to there faces 🤡💀 and then say it with a straight face

[@ZarChasmOfficial]

Uhhh very few of us are streamers. Everybody acts like they were forced to play destiny when in reality, those people lacked self control. I still enjoy the game because I have the incredible ability to play other games. Every Destiny video has comments like "I quit destiny 2 since X and (fill in the blank)". It's not a badge of honor, these people just quit being an addict.

[@noahr9054]

@@ZarChasmOfficial Thanks for realizing what im tryna say lol

[@ZarChasmOfficial]

@@noahr9054 yeah that was mostly directed for anyone that thinks like the other guy in the comments.

[@LeatherNinja]

People have been playing this game for more than a decade so quitting the game is a huge deal for them

[@Legoleflash]

That fusion shot at 7:24 tho 😎 for real, breaks are so incredibly refreshing in all aspects

[@BrainWasherAttendent]

It’s been 10 years, guys. There is no surprise. Play helldivers for 10 years straight and tell me how “amazing” it is.

[@mayhem8264]

Bet they will not sunset half of the game and not microtransaction the game to death. Also bet they will release more weapons and costumes that will not be 20 bucks a pop. Companies and developers that listen will always outlast ones that just tell you what you want to hear

[@tashin9197]

Man, they deleted half of the game we “bought “, y’all just tripping

[@CazadorHex]

Ive done so with Warframe and its still amazing.

[@steveverera9999]

@@CazadorHex That's probably because every update shakes things up a ton, unlike D2. The parkour system added way back,the second dream,Mechs,Nemesis system,New frames, the railjack system, Kahl of duty,Zariman update, New war hitting the "Together we fight, Together we fall" type story. Duviri being a Roguelite Dark Souls like system. Then the 1999 stuff, man in the wall enemies, duviri enemies, and almost every type of weapon under the sun and adding more in march 27. I find it weird how Warframe can just poof new enemies to existence, meanwhile the shadow cabal is just the 4th reskin? of cabal.

[@bezoro-personal]

World of Warcraft (2004) EVE Online (2003) League of Legends (2009) Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (2012) Dota 2 (2013) Path of Exile (2013) Final Fantasy XIV (2013) Warframe (2013) Rainbow Six Siege (2015)

[@struggleryoutube]

Been playing since D1 alpha, it's time to move on boys... I quit the game about 4 months ago and I enjoy playing video games again! I will return one last time for the Final Shape, then that's it for me and alot of my friends and clan members are saying the same thing. It's been 10 years and I had fun, we all had fun didn't we? But 10 years is a long time and alot of things have changed since then, let's be honest with ourselves Bungie isn't Bungie anymore... this isn't Halo: Reach or Destiny 1: Taken King. This is the reality of gaming that we are now seeing, death is inevitable and for a gaming studio as large as this one it is a slow DECAY. I will forever cherish the memories Bungie has brought me throughout my entire life I am 21 years old so this studio has been releasing banger after banger since before I was even born! But all good things must come to an end as they say... see you one last time in the Final Shape ladies and gentlemen, let's finish the fight. "Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened." - Dr. Seuss

[@bananabread_23]

Great vid, I vibe with the concept of moderation and variety as someone who’s been exploring a ton of games (especially indie’s) since I got burnt out of d2 prior to WQ. Not that I won’t hop in for a raid or crucible match with the boiz every now and then, the social experience rarely gets old

[@vruxdrossgaming]

I'm sticking around, if you move on and make new stuff I'll watch it. As much as we all enjoy Destiny, it's going to end one day, and the healthy thing to do is move on, I've gotten to where I don't play as much anymore, I still enjoy this game, but I want to enjoy other things as well. Appreciate everything you've done Nomad, and even if you think you were negative, you were just speaking your feelings on how you feel about this game and it's ok to be passionate about the things you enjoy and want it to be better.

[@VoItey]

I've been saying this for a while my favourite moments in destiny have always been when I've been a casual/bad and enjoying the game for itself

[@Laughingwithtravii]

just subbed to you, this popped up in my rec, this is a wonderful video thats absolutely not exclusive to d2. i had a similar experience with league of legends and to a lesser extent old school runescape. i no longer play league (after 10 ish years of addiction thats a cool thing to say im ngl), and ive learned to balance osrs better nowadays, so im not married to exclusively one game till im absolutely burnt. ill also mention, i did at one point try to get into d2, and it was very fun (i was a void lock), but i was extremely lost storywise, and the gameplay itself didnt hook me enough despite being amazing, i need more than just good gunplay. anywho, back to the vid.

[@TheDankMagician]

This is my first video I've seen from you, but I truly appreciate this message, and this can apply to so many things outsides of gaming and Destiny as a whole, it's just pure simple living, I've found myself mentally stuck on that same depressive, cynical loop and this video was a nice breath of fresh air for me today, thank you for making this and sharing your experiences, I hope you keep achieving that fulfillment for as long as possible. I'm hoping I can do the same for myself with trying to find a career that won't leave me feeling like a husk of a person anymore lol.

[@EtreNameless]

Ascendant, you are speaking the language I speak. I am glad you have put this out there because I am not a streamer and only have so many friends, so I can't reach people to tell them how important it is to enjoy the ride while you can and accept the valleys when they come. Nice work.

[@raulespinosa4427]

As a graphic designer, i've always loved how you do the graphics on your videos, just so clean, anyways great videoo!!

[@LeGamerduNordOuest]

mine is the remove content and lore totally wasted by bungie in EACH season, and also removing the Red War....

[@adamlukasik3435]

I think the real challenge that holds destiny back is the constant power grind... Also WORKING. (And it is work for anyone who can't play hours at a time) to be able to then go play end game content is such a waste of people's time. It does not respect the audiences time

[@capta1nmark]

I quit a year ago and it never felt so good!

[@failfurby]

As a WoW player of well over 10 years at this point, your lesson 2 rings especially true to me. I still have fun in that game, in spite of the negativity, because I don't concern myself with it. Cataclysm and Pandaria were two of my all-time favorite expansions, contrary to what you hear, because I don't let others tell me what is or isn't fun for me. Which is also why I'm still enjoying D2 and loving having another extra long season. I have so much going on outside of video games that 3 months is HELL to try and get everything done and often I'll neglect things irl just to add a few more hours in game to try and get all the content finished.

[@SavageD-qi2ti]

Great video. I’ve been doing a similar detox myself, and I just had a baby. Got on for the first time last night and ran around for an hour with the buddies, it just wasn’t hitting. I felt myself wishing I was spending time on anything else. As nice as it was to hang with the guys for a bit, the game wasn’t as fulfilling as it used to be. At 36, I’m starting to come to terms with the best days of this game being behind me, and that’s ok. There are still so many other games, other media, other experiences to be had in my life, and Destiny just doesn’t get to dominate my life anymore. It’s tough, but kind of freeing to admit that. All that being said, I love to watch videos, and your content has always been awesome, and I can’t wait to see what you do next. Keep up the great work.

[@Irithylia]

It's definitely true that disconnecting yourself from online discussions surrounding anything you enjoy, will allow you to enjoy that thing for longer. And that's not to say that by looking at why it's actually bad, and agreeing with that it's bad, means that you're not thinking for yourself, and just taking other people's opinions. It's merely just a matter of multiple heads being better than one. So by staying ignorant of the issues, you'll come to realize them a lot slower than if you look up what the hundreds of thousands of heads are thinking and analyzing. I think back to my first two years in Genshin Impact, my first gacha game. I had no idea what I was doing back then, and so, many others were ahead of me by a long shot. But I was still enjoying the game despite that. Only once I eventually did get involved in the discussions, learning the game faster, realize why certain things are bad, etc, did it affect my enjoyment with the game. I got burnt out faster, probably due to having gotten better at the game, and spoiling the fun of learning for yourself, in combination with being aware of more of the game's issues for long periods of time, with no improvements being made by the developers. TL;DR; Ignorance is bliss. I think for future games, I'm going to ignore any online discussions, and just enjoy the game for myself, even if it's wrong. I want to see for how much longer a game can be enjoyed when played this way.

[@GeoGyf]

The thing is with gacha games, the story is the easy part. But at some point you need to prepare for the second season, since the game will get harder. Unless you always want to do the optional content, which means using the meta or paying to get awesome units (if you are unlucky with your rolls). But in this case the expectations are different (story vs optional content). So gacha games, while very good, need to be approached with this mindset. What is your end goal, what are you prepared to do. For instance for Genshin, it can be the first area. Or the second or the third. In the end, your worst enemy is yourself, especially if you are dropping money into the game. Or you have an addictive personality, for example must collect everything or must conquer everything or you like to show off. Online games that emphasize ginding (looter shooters like Destiny or Borderlands, hack & slash games like Diablo) need to be approached with the same mindset. I dont know what you did with Genshin Impact that affected your enjoyment, but at least you learned something about yourself, what to avoid in the future (perhaps in a different game), or perhaps in Genshin impact itself.

[@clintans]

I did it with Warframe, World of tanks, Warthunder and Destiny 2. Live games become "worse". It may not be because of the live service. You just don't get the kick anymore, Get annyoed with the community. Same will happen with Helldivers 2 - after a few hundreds, mabe thousand of hours. I know this now, I'm old... :D

[@CommanderPeanuts]

I stopped playing just before forsaken came out. Quit cold turkey. The hardest part was my friends were still playing and wanted me to join them. But it felt like quitting an addiction and I've been able to enjoy so many other games since I left. I don't really regret it at all. This video wonderfully puts into words a lot of what I felt through all that

[@talion4033]

Leaving destiny has massively helped me improve my mental health and I now go to the gym. Playing destiny since 13 (I’m 22 going on 23 now) and having that become a comfort game to enjoy something while life sucked - the game over that time became something that ended up just fuelling my depression. Ever since I quit and got to focus on myself and my life rather than keeping up to a game full of FOMO I’ve never felt better. Just felt like the video to share this on. I feel like it’d resonate with a lot of people

[@behzadmirmozaffari2563]

I've played Destiny from day one. I've stopped at the start of the season of the deep. Clan mates, the few that remain, begged me for help in the Crota's raid. I got back. I did the raid and some more raids for a few days. And I quit again. It's a bittersweet feeling, but I'm no longer addicted to Destiny. Something I used to be proud of. Life is a lot more fun and colourful without Destiny. I'll have my fond memories of it but it's now a thing of the past. Good times. See you amongst the stars, Guardian.

[@OpenWorldAddict0]

Lesson 3 is why i am a variety gamer. Variety is the spice of life.

[@johnkelly1386]

I went from grinding on D2 to now being in the same boat with Fifa. But you a real one. Thank you! Till the end

[@offtilt]

after logging over 7500 hours across destiny 1 and 2 i came to this realization myself. after taking a step back i realized that i too was forcing the fun to happen whenever i played. the last time that i can remember genuine organic fun from destiny was d2 year 1. destiny 2 had gotten to the point for me to where it didn't feel like i was playing a game anymore, but rather it was a chore. the times i would lie to myself saying it's going to get better, change is coming, the fun will return, etc it never did. even after it started to feel like a chore i continuously threw myself at it like a masochist. i was truly addicted to it. i will always look fondly on the memories of completing a raid for the first time or my first flawless trials, but every time i see it in my steam library or think about it i just get the feeling that i've grown out of it and moved on.

[@cheppard2420]

Feel the exact same way.. I’m on my first and biggest long break ever in Destiny.. I always loved your content. Looking forward what you will bring in the future!

[@markmurex6559]

I'm exactly in the same spot. I stopped playing D2 in late November and played other games. I feel much better for taking that break, and I'm not touching D2 until the next expansion.

[@choklatemilkman]

Beautifully said! The biggest take away i got from stepping away from d2 was exactly the same as yours. I was fighting to get that one hit of dopamine when i made a nasty 1v3 play in trials or speedrun a raid in 25 minutes and they became fewer and father between. Having been seperated from d2 for about 9 months now i see the game for what it is not what i wished it would be and you are very right its a phenomenal game just no longer what i need in my daily life. I will be following streams and youtube videos to get the story and detail of Final Shape but i know if i returned to the game it would just turn into an abusive cycle again. I wished i had made it to Final Shape but the taxing drain on my sanity couldnt. Cheers and its been a great ride for the last 8 years ive been subscribed. Also please keep making breakdown videos of whatever you play. Your voice is too buttery smooth to disappear.

[@PortyOG]

I've played since D1 beta, and I finally quit last year. First time I played, I was surprised as hell there were 87 days left in the season pass as of playing at the time. I only did 3 strikes and immediately remembered why I stopped. It's just the same thing over and over again for little to no beneficial reward whatsoever, with nothing new or fun.

[@dustinmillar120]

Thanks for your videos. I'm in the same boat and feel the same way so it's nice to know that we aren't alone. This is even more apparent by all of the comments haha. I salute you and my fellow guardians that will be hanging up their class items after final shape. Here's to a brighter future

[@Soryuju]

Bruh the outro fade-in timing hit HARD. Great video and insights, as always, but DANG.

[@AscendantNomad]

:)

[@justinzabroccoli]

Nomad, I feel you. I quit last year and life is so much more full and enjoyable. Thank you for your past content and I can’t wait to follow you on this new journey. Wherever it may take you.

[@elijahbowers1]

That vicetone outro *chef's kiss*. I support the approach you're taking and the steps you've taken. I've been out of it for 3 years at this point. Tried coming back a couple times and Everytime I have the issues I have with the game and Bungie's approach are glaring so I think I'll stay done. I will not and cannot deny this game gave me tons of amazing memories connecting with my dad, my brother, my uncle, some of my best friends and I'm grateful for that but we all realized that this ain't it anymore for us. Bungie trying to keep us on that perpetual treadmill and in some ways speed it up just ain't it especially as we're getting older. I'd rather play some Deep Rock, Halo, believe it or not Battlefield (2042 still has issues but it's way better now) , or just about any fighting game. Looking forward to see where you go from here.

[@kawaiicoffin]

I learned some of these lessons when my dad passed back in 2020. I stopped gaming pretty much as a whole for about 2 years. And when I heard about Witch queen, I was STOKED. Eris is my favorite character and I was so friggin excited she was FINALLY getting her time in the spotlight. I was looking forward to the story missions to running the story with my friends that I have been playing with since TTK in D1. But I ended up running the missions and the story solo because my friends were just… not enjoying it. Or speed running (which in their defense is what they do and they struggle to slow down lol) These lessons are hard to learn and experience. But it’s important that they are. Very well worded, articulated, and thought out. ♥️

[@DakJD]

Hey Nomad. Long time viewer here. I just wanted to say that I empathize with a lot of what you said here. I've been playing D2 as my main game for way too long and I've felt it was time for a change. I always hoped that they would bring things to a definitive end, but their episodic model seems to suggest otherwise. If I'm going to get the perfect ending to Destiny that I've always wanted, I'm going to have to write it myself. I do believe TFS is going to be my final DLC, and I'd like to bug all my old Destiny friends to join me for one last fire fight. Together, I hope we can finish a story we started 10 years ago. Here's to the perfect ending. The one we choose, not the one we're given. Thank you for your words, and I hope these words find you well.

[@jssolly]

Hey Buddy! I am watching this video eating Cod and Chips on a Friday evening and thoroughly enjoying both my meal and this video! I can't help but feel like this video speaks my mind and feelings. That point you made about the Magic is gone and we change as people is so true. The feeling of booting up D1 in 2014 to do a Croata's End raid with your favourite group of friends is gone and so are the group of friends who left Destiny years ago. I didn't take the hint and continued down the path of grinding until I was worn out... I have so much footage for D2, video ideas, etc... but I cannot do anything with it if I am personally not enjoying it. Recently I've played Skull and Bones, Division 2, MW3 Zombies and AC Mirage and I couldn't believe that I could play another game and enjoy myself again. I was feeling like it was the first time a child inside me was enjoying Video Games! Whether it was enjoying the amazing scenery in Skull and Bones or fighting for my life and surviving an extraction in MW3 Zombies or being completely blown away by the complex and intricate system of build crafting in Division 2 and the variety of loot. It was then I realised I was the idiot. I am not sure where I am heading in the future, but I can't get myself to log in to D2. However I do think I prefer variety and one day it's my aim to be a variety creator. Just play the games I enjoy and chill like the dude I am in my late 30's :( Thanks for the video! It was a good one and it spoke to my inner self and I can relate.

[@Corion2121]

5:27 Ha! He blew that dude’s toes off! 😂 Good form, man! 👏🏿

[@andrew182matches]

This was so very relatable. I'm also in my 30s now and I realized that I was trying to chase the nostalgia of my D1 days during my 20s. I have also come to terms with the fact that The Final Shape will be my "last ride" so to speak, then it will be time to move on.

[@MrJakeasaur98]

Your thoughts definitely resonate with me on this game. I have played on and off since Destiny 1 came out, but it didn't really click with me until Forsaken launched. I grew to love Destiny, and part of me will always love the game. But like many of us, I decided to take a step back from the routine engagement over the last year or so. There has been so much negativity surrounding the state of the game of late, and whilst many may say the game was seemingly at it's worse earlier this year, I think people tend to forget the other low periods the game endured through - such as the lead up to content vaulting with Beyond Light, Curse of Osiris' all time low, D2's launch simplification of the core game, and pre-Age of Triumph D1. Taking the time to step away, I have found myself enjoying the game on the occasions when I have decided to play some more. Reflecting on that, I think the game's model of getting players to engage with Destiny as their only game (something which is understandably a common goal for almost all live service games, since they are competing with each other for sales and microtransactions), is what has resulted in a lot of people's negative feelings for the game, and more recently their apathy towards the game. I am super excited for The Final Shape, and I may even dip back in to check out the episodes, but I don't think I'll ever approach the game in the same way as I did from Forsaken to Lightfall, and I'm OK with that. Like you, I'll look back happily at my time with the game, but more than anything, I'm glad to rediscover my enjoyment of gaming again by simply trying other games - especially with some of the amazing titles that have come out over the last year or so. I feel that Destiny began to feel more like a chore than something to engage with for fun, and I think if Bungie took a step back and looked at how they could focus on creating a fun experience, rather than an always changing experience, a lot of us might feel more relaxed in our approach to the game, and generally enjoy our time with it more. The core gameplay that drew us all in to begin with is still there, and we will perpetually be chasing that high, but so long as we keep trying to do so all of the time, it is only natural that we experience some fatigue. I commend the content creators who dedicate their livelihood's to games like Destiny, because I can only imagine how difficult it is to come up with original content for a game that causes so much fatigue with Bungie's approach to designing new content. Something I would like to see in Destiny is a real attempt at removing FOMO. The biggest one for me are season passes. Whilst I've rarely had a problem surpassing the max level each season, it would go a long way if I didn't feel like I had to play a certain amount every 3 months just to not miss things I had paid for. I wish the same were true of all games with expiring season/battle passes. Halo Infinite and Helldivers 2 are a real breath of fresh air given that their passes NEVER expire, and its something I want to see in more games. I would have thought allowing people to continue old passes would only help keep up engagement for the game, win some points with players, and prove to be another form of content for players to enjoy when the game might otherwise be in a slow period. All that said, perhaps this is something their new "episodes" model will consider.

[@Ryzard]

I appreciate you sharing your experience. I have no horse in this race. But I've had similar experiences with aging and gaming, and I very much appreciate your insight and story.

[@rosschilds9627]

I felt this to my core, I also recently stepped away and am exploring such a vibrant library of rpgs and metroidvanias on switch, scratching a different itch I didn't know I still needed. Hopped back on this past weekend to try the new sandbox in pvp, and even though I did enjoy myself after a lengthy break away from destiny, I was glad I could turn it off and hop back in to Bravely Default 2 or Dead cells when I started to feel that pvp rage again lol, I went from hours upon hours, every bit of my gaming life spent in Destiny, it made me forget why I game. I will always run some matches in the crucible, even after final shape, but u 100% right, there shouldn't only be 1 game. Awesome video my dude.

[@Vinniem360]

My friends moved on.. and I came back to chase that feeling again but I’ll never feel that excitement again. I’ve not touched destiny 2 in 6 months I think and don’t think I ever will again. I was going to get the next expansion but genuinely don’t have any excitement in my body.. I loved destiny, played it since I was 16 and had my ups and down with destiny 2 but I’m hanging my boots.. got a kid on the way and for me.. just an end of an era. Thanks for everything 🙏

[@ReignFireCCG]

As someone who has played since D1 launch, I learned as a solo player, I had to play Destiny and D2 in spurts. If I played too much, I got salty seeing all the raid gear, dungeons completed, hard content being done solo and realizing, I just couldn’t keep up. Partly my own fault and partly cause my friends would get it and grind 24/7 while I worked, had kids etc… leaving little time for me to even catch an activity and before I knew it they were done with D2 again. Up until recently, I had never even completed a dungeon. My girlfriend recently showed interest in playing and she’s by no means a gamer. She’s loving it. I have all the DLC and she recently just got Forsaken/30th Anniversary. Carrying her through things, helping her with her build, seeing how excited she gets when we complete stuff has breathed new life into D2 for me. I’m hardly someone who should teach anything about this game but helping her along has been awesome. And we play in spurts. Couple hours here and there. Last night we completed the shattered throne, got wish ender and she’s so hyped for her new bow. I’m getting the joy of doing things I couldn’t do before solo and watching her learn and enjoy the game. It’s been a great change with my Destiny experience.

[@TheConcenaros]

An absolutely great video Nomad. Shows a lot of self-awareness, personal introspection and growth overall. You also captured and summarized how most 10-year veterans of the Destiny series feel and for that I give you a huge kudos. Great stuff man, I can't wait to see what else you cook up in the future.

[@tipsipigeon]

Super well spoken; I agree with every point mentioned. To the premise of your first "Lesson", I wholeheartedly can say the same for myself. Whenever I log into Destiny, I tend to spend my time aimlessly drifting in the void of space, watching my ship in orbit... I think to myself 'wow, remember when this game was fun?'. And so, I reminisce. I started playing in Season of Arrivals full time, having first learned of the game the season prior. I knew very little and took far too long a time to become adjusted to all of the activities and mechanics at the time, but eventually got very into raiding. The people I played with initially never taught me what exactly a "raid" was, or that it was more than just one boss encounter. Due to this unfortunate miss in learning, I didn't ever get to do a full run of Scourge or Crown before the great content vaultening. I feel like I did miss out on a lot during that time, as I scrambled to try and finish as many activities and triumphs as I could before their removal from the game. This being said, the things that I *did* get to experience are memories that I'd never forget. The guy who taught me Leviathan had such an incredible spirit. His sense of humor and method of incorporating relatability and comedy into his mechanic-teaching practices was so enjoyable. He is the whole reason that I went on to teach other people raids for so long. It's not as many as some other folks, but I have 258 Deep Stone clears, 90 being sherpas. I love that raid. When I say that, though, I'm often met with a combative "But that raid isn't hard." I said clearly that it was FUN, not CHALLENGING. I loved learning every little thing about DSC after it came out; every exact timer, optimal strategies, studying the things that make the raid go smoothly and implemented them into my runs. I'd hoped to do a lot more sherpas for that raid in particular, but I got too sick to keep up my constant carries every day, so I stopped. teaching raids, to me, is one of the most truly fulfilling experience I've had in D2. To those I've taught (not just DSC) to... people who actually *listen* and ask questions, and get involved and aren't afraid to fail their role because I'd let them have another go, those people have truly made memories for me. I never like when someone refuses to partake in mechanics and ONLY do ad clear. I always made a point that I'd be there as long as they needed to in order to get through the encounter, and intentionally taught each member how to do as much as possible so they had the confidence to go on without me. Such a rewarding thing to have a part in. I've even met people in LFGs who have told me stories about how they recognise me because I taught them XYZ raid, and they've gone on to teach others the same way. That shit means something to me. I always think back on each of those times... I miss when every encounter felt positive. Now it's just LFGs grumbling about how awful the game is, groveling about how much they hate it, simultaneously whilst playing it. The Destiny content community has gotten so stale and repetitive, revolving mostly around negativity. A vast majority of videos nowadays are focused solely on complaints. Sure, anger and pain can be POWERFUL motivators, but in this context, it doesn't create that driving spirit. It doesn't encourage anyone to play, it doesn't make anybody want to innovate and make fun content. Outside of just the state of the game, the community seemingly is of a dimmer light too. but we're fed up with Bungie, and that's the root of the issue, so it's to be expected. When the game does bad, the fanbase does too. There's so few creators bothering to make creative content, most opting to just report on the news for the members of their audience that begrudgingly still check in with the game once in a while. I completely understand and totally RESPECT not wanting to further fuel this abysmally depressing train they're all riding on. The fact, too, that creating content is the sole income that most Streamers/KZbinrs have, they've sort of trapped themselves. It's not *entirely* their fault, but having no escape plan or backup job or qualifications is a daunting thought. We've seen a lot of creators in the D2 space recently take a dive into variety content in panic as we await The Final Shape. They have no choice at this point, not just because Destiny is "coming to a close", but because even whilst it carries on, it's not exactly thriving. Either go full variety, or roll in the shit with everyone else. And most of them do! We've all been encapsulated by this negativity, the best thing to do is just move aside. Branch out, even if not for content creation. Go play other things, seriously. Or, the old classic that not enough people listen to... "Go touch grass". Walk your dog. Enjoy life. I, too, have taken a step back, prioritizing my mental and physical health as I've gone through so much BS that wasn't being helped by the way that Destiny doesn't make me feel RELAXED any more. I'm not confident that it will ever go back, which pains and saddens me deeply, as I truly love Destiny. From the moment I first jumped in, back on the Tangled Shore, I was utterly enamored. I fell head over heels for this game, despite having never played D1. The atmosphere, the design, the true uniqueness it always had... Gambit!? Gosh, Gambit, my beloved... How you've fallen... I unfortunately come from the Land Down Under, and the PvP matchmaking is less than passable. It takes me 20-40 minutes to find a match every single time, often resulting in a timeout error due to struggling to find players on this area's servers. Due to this, even if I WANTED to play PvP, despite all of it's recent shortcomings and poor performance within the community, I can't even resort to that aspect of the game when PvE is lacking. But that love is still very much in tact, just bruised. Time may heal and bring it back to life, but for now, we settle for this. I love Destiny, hell, I edit my own clips on it. I wouldn't represent it if I'd fully turned away. I wouldn't waste energy just screaming bitterly into the void on social media, whining about the good old days or bashing anyone that still actively plays and enjoys the game. I do log in every so often, and I do have a semi-decent time. That's not exactly ideal, but I hunger for the Destiny. I crave the Destiny. and I reckon that I always will.

[@FarmTraveler]

BRO THIS IS THE EXACT THING I ENCOUNTERED! Got bored, played The Finals, then Halo, now addicted to Hell Divers, but still returning to D2 every now and then.

[@qualichor1222]

I checked out about a week into Season of the Wish. I've just started playing again this last week. Destiny is a comfort blanket for me, that has completely burned me out over the years, especially the last two. I've been playing a lot of smaller, indie titles, a bit of Tekken, I've got my eye on Helldivers, but running through Starcrossed last night with a friend who has been doing much the same, with no expectation, it dawned on me... there really is nothing quite like Destiny. 10 years, and its never truly been replicated. It has its issues, loads, and for long time players it feels like a part of life that isn't going well, but a break and zooming out a little, I've got a little bit of that energy back for the game. Now to catch up! This was a great video man

[@Truds]

I’ve barely played since December and it’s been refreshing. Turns out there’s a world outside, who’d have known!

[@TravyDead]

1 to 1. I've had these same thoughts and feelings. For the last year I've struggled to make content more frequent than every couple months. This brand of dopamine truly doesn't hit as hard anymore, and I'm okay with that. Making content that doesn't bring you joy is just another 9-5 unfortunately. Thank you for this video Nomad.

[@TheCheeksMiller]

Pretty spot on. For the last bit, since Lightfall dropped, I finished the campaign, check out each seasonal activity and find it variations on a theme, then log out and come back when the next season drops for a few days. I will play final shape but I suspect at that point I will be done after the campaign.