I ran a Linux Gaming PC at PDXLan... It didn't suck!

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LAN parties are like drag races... it's all about the preparation, as any number of things can prevent you from participating. So why would I run Linux on a Gaming PC with no backup plan? Whether its SteamOS, or in this case, Pop_OS! with Steam and Proton, I felt strongly enough about Linux being a viable gaming option, I decided to make it my ONLY option at PDXLan this Fall.
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[@bread8176]

The most surprising part of this is that there was a sponsored section that I didn't skip

[@Mice-stro]

You should see the ifixit ads from jayztwocents

[@CraftComputing]

Yeah, those are cute.

[@theflash9068]

@@CraftComputing No man your ad was a master piece

[@jasnix]

Smol Robot dog?

[@wizzbitgxs]

The whole video is a commercial :P hahaha

[@t8db]

Oh yea, you weren't the only one at PDXLAN running Linux. I was the guy on the edge of the H table with the Loque case, on Fedora. I also had an extremely smooth experience, although I spent the vast majority of the time playing FFXIV.

[@patrickjoseph3412]

I've made to switch to Linux back in august and it's been fantastic. I started with Pop_os! and had a few issues with Bluetooth,audio issues and random crashes. Ended up on fedora and haven't looked back. It takes a few extra steps to install NVIDIA driver, multimedia Codecs and wine dependencies with the Rpm fusion repos but is well documented. Proton is like black magic, i have ran into minor problems with a few games but getting good frame rates on all titles i play with little to no bugs. Only down fall is is anti-cheat support. CSGO is native and i have zero issues running 300+ fps super smooth, apex legends works well for me as well but war-zone, valorant, rust, lol, overwatch are all are not supported. Keep ssd with a windows install to play all unsupported games but spend 90% of my time on Fedora. Jeff, you are correct on linux being a very capable of gaming platform and i even had some old titles that i couldn't get to play on windows 10 but with lutris & wine run perfect on Linux!

[@PeakKissShot]

Lol and overwatch work

[@KristianvanTuil]

@@PeakKissShot Yup, I use PortProton with a custom Proton for Overwatch 2 on Zorin Linux. Plays perfectly.

[@TAP7a]

With that list of games that don’t work, it sounds like Linux has done you a favour there :P

[@YeaSeb.]

Try lutris for overwatch2 and lol

[@wizzbitgxs]

I'm using Linux for about 28 years now as daily OS. Linux was more my thing what i missed in windows. The gaming part was the least of my missings :)

[@BenWolkWeiss]

Wow! Jeff, you made an ad spot that I was glad I didn't skip over. That was very well done and epic!

[@etaashmathamsetty7399]

I didn't even realize it was an ad 💀, honestly impressed by that

[@ryanebigelow]

A missed opportunity for someone to lose a hand during the lightsaber fight!

[@CraftComputing]

That was actually taken from an earlier and, and they DID lose their hand 😁😁

[@BenWolkWeiss]

@@CraftComputing Glad to hear that someone lost a hand in a lightsaber fight!

[@dashtesla]

@@CraftComputing That's how advertisement should be, well done!

[@SycsFinest]

Me and the boys still do a LAN party twice a year. Pizza, Mountain Dew and blood shot eyes.

[@mattwilliams1844]

Fuckin eh, the Pizza and Mountain Dew really hit home. Glad other people are still keeping the glory days alive

[@travisaugustine7264]

Love the mini-rant about Comcast. I have the same experience with Spectrum. Most ISPs just irritate me to no end these days because they don't see where anyone other than an enterprise that can afford the king's ransom they charge for something approaching reasonable for many power users, content creators, etc., could possibly need that much upload.

[@raven4k998]

I love how far linux gaming has gone with emulation layers now running as fast as the windows layer🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Xathroz]

For my new build on AM5 I swapped to Nobara, and so far, I have not missed Windows a single time. Everything feels smooth, most games (excluding competitive, haven't tried yet) just work out of the box.. It feels so nice not to have ads thrown in my face while using my OS...

[@nemtudom5074]

That sponsor spot was unlike anything else I didnt even know i was watching an ad, thought it was a teaser for a future video

[@duncan51]

Thank you for the balanced take on the whole Windows vs linux vs Mac issue. At the end of the day, they are just tools, and that is a point that many don't seem to grasp.

[@javabeanz8549]

Having dealt with two Windows laptops recently, I still consider it useless. Both of the laptops were acting strange under Windows, but both work just fine under Linux Mint. When I sit down to use my computers, I want to use them, not have to fix them first.

[@seoulglo1999]

Hey Jeff! Great meeting you at PDXLAN and thanks for the shirt. Hope you can make it to the next PDXLAN in March 2023.

[@CraftComputing]

Hey Mike! Glad you liked it. And yep, we'll be back! Already got our seats 👍👍

[@DJSammy69.]

Your sponsor spots just keep getting better and better!!!

[@davidclough735]

Saw you at PDXLAN, we were both headed into the bathroom, so didn't think that was the best time to start a conversation. Kept meaning to look for you again, hoping you would have that PC there. Hope you had a good time at the LAN!

[@CraftComputing]

Next time say hi. Worst I'll do is ask you to let me wash my hands first 😉 I'll be there in March.

[@MrTette78]

Really cool done ad-spot

[@barsandpwn]

Yes! Finally Bunny with a Chainsaw reviewed on camera. First time I was more excited to get to the beer review than watch the main content.

[@747Cuber]

The sponsor segment was actually creative this time instead of the typical "here's the selling points" that it took me a small while to realize it was a sponsorship. I also agree that while not yet perfect, linux is truly catching up to windows as a viable gaming platform. (It works for the games I primarily play, either natively or via wine/proton/lutris)

[@delscott480]

Guys I love your adverts. Fantastic effort

[@SurenCao]

The keyboard matched with the PC was a beast of a keyboard. Welcome for the network cable for that oh so good internet.

[@CraftComputing]

Hahaha, thanks mate! See you in March?

[@Shawn__Martin]

I loved the Lexar ad, well done.

[@DangerousPictures]

I have been running Linux as my main OS since pre covid with dual boot windows for VR and incompatible stuff. Granted, I only play minecraft, Factorio and Civ5, but those games run flawless on linux and sometimes even better than on windows

[@David_Paezz]

Bunny with a Chainsaw! I live literally next door from Paperback Brewing, would love to send some up north if you ever want to try more of their weirder stuff :) Love the content.

[@easkay]

Loving the shout-out for RoR2, love that game and also play it on Pop!_OS. Glad you had a great weekend ^_^

[@theonlydreary]

Literally the only thing keeping me from hopping over to Linux is the fact that the new CODs don't work on it, as it's one of the main games I play with friends, but if they ported it or their anti cheat I would jump to it in a heartbeat.

[@valeriojackable]

Ok the AD was amazing. Moving on to the rest of the video 🙂

[@dragonhead01]

The part about required equipment is definitely not a point I had considered. Thanks for that

[@justinknash]

Nice advertisement for Lexar. Impressive production value.

[@CrazyRamUK]

I would not have expected it too :)

[@NickOfTime99]

one of your best videos! That ad spot was amazing

[@Revenant_Knight]

Great vid. I've been using POP OS for about a month now and while I think it's pretty good, I won't be switching to it for gaming rigs. Using Linux for gaming reminds me of the early days of 3D cards in PCs. Sometimes a feature is supported. Sometimes it's not. Sometimes there is an easy workaround. Sometimes you have to put in some elbow grease. Sometimes it simply doesn't work. Honestly it was fun to solve problems like that again, but for now I'll stick with Windows when gaming.

[@notjustforhackers4252]

What problems were you having?

[@Revenant_Knight]

@@notjustforhackers4252 I imagine they're mostly standard fair. I've had some games glitch when it comes to full screen resolutions differing from the desktop resolution. Say Shadow of the Tomb Raider for example. I'll set that at 1080P but my standard desktop is 4K. When I get back to my desktop, it's now 1080P, but with a scaling option of 200% which I use for 4K. I try to use the GUI to switch it back but it only shows half the menu. Ultimately, I have to use the terminal to reset the resolution. Gaming wise I get proton glitches and crashes. A bit of experimentation and I usually can get the game running, but there usually is some graphical glitch or stutter. Sometimes it goes away, sometimes it doesn't. Red Out initially had both but it went away after playing for a bit. Several games I've had to try various version of Proton to see if it works, which reminds me of the driver/patch days of early 3D cards like the Riva 128, Verite, and Voodoo. Sometimes features like DLSS and Raytracing simply won't work (Cyberpunk) though FSR does. I've also had issues trying to install Nuvelo to access my Amazon Music. This is mostly from lack of experience with Flatpaks and apt get, but I haven't found a cohesive guide yet. For reference I'm using a System 76 Thelio which is a fantastic system.

[@notjustforhackers4252]

@@Revenant_Knight NVIDIA and X11? Or NVIDIA wayland? Yeah any of these combo's are a pain in the arse for resolutions and scaling and the moment. I'm on Fedora with AMD and Wayland all these issues are pretty much solved on this hardware, moral? NVIDIA still sucks on Linux. Your grips are legitimate by the sound of it, blame NVIDIA. I'm not sure what Nuvelo is but if your taking about locally installed media then you probably just need to use the flatpak "controller" flatseal flatpak install flatseal and give the app permissions to access your files. Quite fancy a Thelio if they can ship with an AMD GPU, how's the fan noise these days? EDIT: if you launch a game through Lutris there's a setting to restore desktop resolution on game exit, might help.

[@sqribe]

damn. love that comcast burn.

[@JonGodcommadore65]

Nice and nuanced ending. I'm not a Linux guy either... I have a rig with a Windows drive.. I am needing to use it less and less to the point all my laptops are using Linux and it is pretty much reserved for games I can't play which are dwindling. My partner decided she wanted to change the living room... and my TV PC was relegated to the side of an IKEA compartmental storage unit... I now have a steam deck as my main PC downstairs.. the idea was I could link it up with my proper rig.. It's taken over. I logged into Windows the other day to play a game I can play on linux but get better resolution/performance on.... it had been so long I needed to wait for loads of updates (updates are also prevalent on any linux distro) which highlighted how long it had been.

[@zurkeydurkey]

Wow. I think I literally saw you and thought "Huh. That guy looks just like the Craft Computing dude."

[@billysherman2702]

Looking at your shirt, I now want a StarTrek themed Galaga!!!

[@wyfyj]

I have ideas for storage. Time to build a NAS! Gaming on Linux slaps. I was doling it on Pop!_OS. But now I am trying to daily drive Gentoo. So VM's and Gaming is left to optimize. Kudos for the vid.

[@Sunlight91]

The biggest issue I have with Linux Gaming are community fixes/mods. Plenty of older games don't work in 21:9 or don't support above 60Hz. The solutions on PCGaming wiki often only work on Windows.

[@notjustforhackers4252]

You're looking at the wrong "community/wiki" then. Try the Linux ones not the Windows ones.

[@_marvix_1088]

that depends on the game i guess? last week I tried beyond good and evil on linux and the widescreen patch worked just fine putting the dll in the game folder, as said on PCGamingWiki, but maybe some other game won't work this way? i don't really know, haven't tried them all

[@DaiAtlus79]

7:51 it's like that shit Ajit Pai did made it harder for a customer to get a decent connection instead of a 'free internet'. im in a city of under 30k in Canada and i can get gigabit fiber to the door, and not as a business. btw thats 1.5 Gbit/s down and almost a full gigabit up. this is what happens when you have a D or R next to the name of every official in your country, including clerks... lol

[@bodgemaster7946]

This is the perfect thing to watch while recompiling the Linux kernel on my PowerMac G5.... (and yes, this is taking a lot longer than the duration of this video)

[@jadamsnz]

What? LAN parties are still a thing...?

[@ufopulse]

Only in shitty ass portland oregon this lan party is just a gimmick for marketing has been for years.

[@meowtuna]

Yep. Used to run them where I live but sadly the prevalence of fibre at home here and the global grot means getting another one going has been... Hard to say the least with a small population.

[@3v068]

That brew definitely seems interesting

[@blackryan5291]

Aye yo...Jeff....Why you do this? My sides hurt. 🤣I'm freaking dead. Bro...Bret was happy. The twinkle in his eye. I was sitting down. i stood up...just so i could properly fall to my knees. I watched it twice. You earned this like bro.

[@CraftComputing]

One of these days we'll produce a film that's longer than 60 seconds :-D

[@radical_ans]

I feel like if you want to travel with that PC you'd need a case for your case.

[@CraftComputing]

It was definitely the most difficult ITX machine I've ever had to transport 😁

[@heyitsdazy]

Linux resurrected a 2012 Gateway machine... and I play UT and other classic PC games on it just fine using Wine and Proton. Its a bit silly to run KZbin on my more powerful machines at the moment so again this "old" machine is still good. Boot time is under 60 secs for OS and load times are still minimal using an ssd.

[@sp00n]

Oh, I thought you were taking the all Intel PC to the LAN party. Don't know what the bolder move would've been, a PC running Linux or a PC with an Arc GPU. But apparently the Linux approach worked out just fine.

[@CraftComputing]

We took both systems, though I *didn't* take the ARC GPU. I didn't have enough time to be comfortable with ARC as the only card for Rett to play on. I'm spending this week benchmarking the A770.

[@Jahades]

Jeff, I love the saltiness of Comcast! I feel your pain because up here in Canada we have Canadian Comcast *Cough Cough* Shaw Cable/ Rogers Cable *Cough Cough*

[@SivanardJongvilai]

That sponsored segment ...again 👌10/10

[@TimmyTechTV]

LANs in a nutshell - What does not kill us makes us stronger.

[@TheKillerJin]

afaik, fsr 2.1 doesnt use machine learning. Its purely based on numerical methods and the intellect on the engineers who developed it.

[@bland9876]

Can you use Linux as your main gaming computer and then set up a virtual machine to play Windows only anti cheat games?

[@shaunlavoie6183]

Was that your car in the gear shifting part of the sponsored section?

[@CraftComputing]

Yes it was. 350Z Roadster ☺️

[@shaunlavoie6183]

@@CraftComputing Dang!! Nice ride man!

[@MechAnism820]

Pop Os + Steam Proton is working great for me.

[@lorddouglas6659]

I always come for the tech, but stay for the beer.😀

[@edmac1090]

I enjoyed that ad lmao

[@Morimea]

AMD FSR2 is just "temporal upscaler", not ML or NN used there, it is similar to any other shader-upscaler. Speaking about "big AAA tittles" - Ubisoft has exclusive deal with Microsoft about "games being exclusive to MS platform" this is reason why their Uplay not working in Linux/Wine/Proton. Same with new AAA-tittles especially that "released in GamePass" - exclusive to Microsoft Windows PC only, Microsoft did good job preventing GamePass to work in linux. Use of DXVK in multiplayer competitive games like Overwatch2/Apex/Destiny2/others - leads to account permaban in 5-10 mins after connecting to match.

[@FOSSuser]

I am curious of what beer that is? Distracted me from listening 100% trying to find out.

[@ewhac]

9:45: "Canon or Nikon." Pentax K-70, thankyouverymuch.

[@CraftComputing]

"Audi or BMW?" "Volkswagen!"

[@eldaria]

I took my Steam Deck to LAN party, had a dock, keyboard, mouse and external display but also had my nreal Air with me. Worked perfectly.

[@alvesvaren]

Overwatch 2 and CSGO works amazingly on linux too btw. Some csgo clients do not, but the normal game works even better than on windows

[@trumanbeal5668]

Used to do this with quake/capture the flag in the mid-late 90s..

[@IAmHavok91]

The most surprising part of this is that you said "Perhipherals".

[@GugureSux]

I find it quite sad that these days, the term "LAN Party" = "Let's play the same Steam games we usually play, but in the same room!" I'd be more interested in some ACTUAL LAN gaming, using non-Steam games, preferably titles on good ol' physical media, that do not require any sort of DMR or log-ins to services.

[@aaronjden]

Best. Sponsor spot. Ever.

[@TheStrategyWargamer]

awesome shirt!

[@psyedk]

cool lil custom case

[@xXDarthBagginsXx]

Anti-Cheat Incompatibility with Linux is why I haven't fully jumped to Linux - alot of us in the Bungie community have been pushing for them to ad Linux support for Destiny 2 and for their future projects (main title I play the most of). Steam has been pushing hard for compatibility in a ton of games and it has made it amazing of what all is not supported compared to even a couple years ago.

[@CaptinCurt]

Still wait for more then 45mbps upload from Comcast as well.

[@durschfalltv7505]

Gotta see some vgpu action with the intel arc.

[@durschfalltv7505]

or just pci-passthrough and if rebar works.

[@Alpha-kt4yl]

Love the video, but I have a minor nitpick. At 8:25 you say that machine learning upscaled your game but FSR 2 doesn't use any machine learning or AI whatsoever.

[@derickreed]

First off love your videos... Your computer the Beast looks like one of my builds Awsome job !!! I'm working on a linux build trying to deside which linux os to use looks like PoP is a good choise. Do you think a msi Z690-Pro-A motherboard, a 12th gen Intel i 7 12700k processer, 64gb corsair ddr5 ram, msi RTX 3060 Ventus 3x Nvidia graphics card, Samsung 980 PRO 500gb NVMe M.2 ssd for Os , 8Tb Barracuda HDD for storage, msi mag 850 gold psu would run steam games well? My builds are all for personal use so I don't have much guidance on what works but came pretty close to the beast and purchased all my parts before seeing this video or I would have went with the i9. What do you think?

[@overbese]

I have been Pop_OS! HTPC / gaming. I am very happy with it.

[@Havok0159]

The notable problem isn't playing games that are on Steam but those that aren't. Rocket League for instance isn't being sold on Steam anymore and the last time I tried, EGS doesn't cooperate with linux. Nor did some of the other launchers for games I play.

[@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418]

Because you don't use the EGS client you use Heroic which is the Linux client for EGS and GOG, I think they are adding the Amazon game store as well at the moment.

[@yern3wstepdad]

Planning on running Linux again at Lanniversary?

[@TimmyTechTV]

Lies, I was there. You did need the scotch...

[@TimmyTechTV]

Just not due to linux

[@wizzbitgxs]

NEVER go for a business line when you do not needed, unless you need the SLA, your only get ripped off. The only advantage is the static ip, but the rest is even worse then non business line.

[@nonholographic]

could be wrong but I think FSR support was added to the linux kernel recently?

[@tqrules01]

Steam Os was a real game changer.. pun intended

[@tomkayak9752]

Wait, an acid beer... AND Linux... WHO ARE YOUUUUU 😉

[@evacody1249]

Ok so what Linux is easy to use and at the same time easy to install games for ie Final Fanrasy 14 Guild Wars two etc?

[@Americancosworth]

What am if i am a Honda Ridgeline lover?

[@CraftComputing]

Hyundai Santa Cruz would be your rival.

[@johanngambolputty5351]

Yes, they are just tools, but only one is open for you to look inside, or have the peace of mind that someone else can, that the creators have nothing to hide... (at least until something like RedoxOS matures, which will probably be a few years)

[@bend.7378]

I'm curious. What's the robot in the intro?

[@rett.isawesome]

I think it's called XGO Mini

[@CraftComputing]

@@rett.isawesome Yep!

[@SP-ny1fk]

What about Directx? Is it only an issue not having it with an Nvidia GPU? (My knowledge is probably a decade out of date now haha)

[@notjustforhackers4252]

What about DX? That api is converted to vulkan in the background, its irreverent. Works fine on NVIDIA, AMD and Intel CPU's.

[@Quartzkensai]

The only REAL issue with Linux gaming these days is EAC. As a rule, if it runs EAC, it’s no-go. Proton and vulkan/dxvk makes Linux stupid easy to use for gaming

[@notjustforhackers4252]

@@Quartzkensai This is incorrect. EAC is not an issue as it is fully supported on Linux and has been for a while now. Of course it IS up to the publisher to enable it in their game, nothing to do with the platform.

[@Quartzkensai]

@@notjustforhackers4252 my point exactly

[@pfred_]

Cool advertisement :)

[@insu_na]

I hope dxvk-native starts taking off with developers. It's such a great tool and just win-win-win for everyone involved

[@notjustforhackers4252]

I'd sooner developers just shipped with Vulkan support out of the box.

[@GAMIR_SFM]

Good for you, i won't use a Linux distro yet. Needs more time in the oven for me

[@GorditoCrunchTime]

What is the thing we can't follow you on anymore and why?? 🍿👀

[@ozzykampha2776]

What controller do you have there?

[@channel00023]

Proton still doesn’t work with R6 and buggy with Red Dead Redemption 2

[@tombyrer1808]

Gamed using the trackball?

[@CraftComputing]

Yep!!!

[@steveheist6426]

Have you considered a Mastodon account, what with the whole "Twitter shitshow" thing?

[@CraftComputing]

hostux.social/@CraftComputing

[@steveheist6426]

@@CraftComputing 'Ey :D I sent a follow :D I dunno if I missed it but if not you should copy that into your description boilerplate under the Twitter handle (or maybe in place of the Twitter handle if it gets worse)

[@SOF006]

RoR2 is an amazing game, so much fun

[@mikebroom1866]

THANKS COMCAST.... I refuse. Could get 10x (theoretical) speed bump over 100/20 ATT... Never.

[@Alt3Tab]

Dude, that comercial. damn...

[@BaronCAD]

No HDR on Linux means I have to keep silly NTFS partitions kicking around on all my machines. Sigh...

[@notjustforhackers4252]

There is early HDR support in Vulkan.... no its not ready but Linux does have it.

[@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418]

No idea where Red Hat have got with the support but they were working on it. I assume because the film industry want it supported for graphics workstations and rendering machines used by effects companies.

[@Zysperro]

Who and why would take their water cooled system somewhere, that's just asking for trouble 💀

[@asunavk69]

As an avg. linux user on my main rig, its been great, i use linux mint MATE v20.3, and well its starting to show its age already, so gaming on linux specifically is a challenge, for now i play nfs mw on baseline wine but steam wont work that well for instance, which leads me to believe i need a upgrade, though few days ago i broke the distro upgrading, with mintupgrade then i made a recover with timeshift, and now i am like wondering what should i do for the future.. Also i have a win11 vm with gpu passthrough and cpu pinning which its quite cool and yet my easy way to play some games.

[@tomkayak9752]

Alternative to windows when it comes to... ANYTHING! 😉

[@tommy6742]

Big issue with Linux gaming in 2022 still such, as not being able to play games with anti-cheat put in place like Rainbow Six Siege or Battlefield.

[@notjustforhackers4252]

anti-cheat is fully supported on Linux. Its not the OS that's the issue, its the game publishers who don't turn it on. That's why they don't get my money.

[@lovitz69]

$150 for a seat? That shit used to be free

[@CraftComputing]

Who knew renting an exhibit hall, 3-phase power, tables, chairs, janitorial staffing, networking hardware and event infrastructure would cost money?!?

[@lovitz69]

@@CraftComputing I know right? haha

[@Mysterious_RSA]

Overwatch works pretty well on linux - an actual linux user

[@vnagfightergaming3665]

I would say it's harder to cheat on linux than on windows because already existing cheats don't under linux and eve if you make a cheat if it's running through proton you need to find a way to get the information that the cheat need which the anti-cheat can notice. Currently it's harder to cheat on linux than on windows

[@vaisakh_km]

finally a year of.... :(