I Rank EVERY Biceps Exercise (Based on Science)

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In this video, Dr. Milo Wolf ranks popular biceps exercises and grades them in a tier list to determine the best and worst exercises.
References:
1. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37559...
2. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
3. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34616...
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5. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36828...
6. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34616...
7. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37559...
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"I Rank EVERY Biceps Exercise, Based on Science"
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@IckleChris
@IckleChris 26 күн бұрын
The cutting sound added is so distracting, it's like being in a hairdressers 😅
@lucastavares3518
@lucastavares3518 26 күн бұрын
Yeah it's really annoying
@Antoniombbsena
@Antoniombbsena 26 күн бұрын
Awesome video once again, but I have to agree on this 😂
@IckleChris
@IckleChris 26 күн бұрын
Yeah don't get me wrong good video, and the cut sound would be good far less frequently, the fact it's every few seconds is not good though
@Snerdles
@Snerdles 26 күн бұрын
I didn't even really notice until you mentioned it and then suddenly it was drilling in to my head like coach Greg selling a cookbook.
@trschurr
@trschurr 25 күн бұрын
Turned the volume up so I can hear him better but oh wait. The annoying sound got louder. 😂
@viktorpetkov8568
@viktorpetkov8568 26 күн бұрын
Damn Doctor got a Chair. Next he is getting an assistant to write his prescriptions
@viktorpetkov8568
@viktorpetkov8568 26 күн бұрын
Btw, one more exercise that I have recently started to do is a cable concentration curl. You can sit on something and then lower the cable down to your calf level and do concentration curl. It is insanely hard at the bottom ( even a bit too hard if you also lean your body away from your arm) .
@pillemcphilsen8529
@pillemcphilsen8529 26 күн бұрын
King in the castle, king in the castle.
@GoodieWithaHoodie
@GoodieWithaHoodie 26 күн бұрын
Curls for the girls, abbies for tha baddies
@clinthajjar102
@clinthajjar102 26 күн бұрын
PHD don’t write scrips
@thedcsignal
@thedcsignal 26 күн бұрын
Hammer Curls??? You talk about reverse curls but not hammer curls??? Love your vids by the way!
@imatthewryan4076
@imatthewryan4076 26 күн бұрын
hammers are trash tho. B-
@agrlklarkemirenpanda660
@agrlklarkemirenpanda660 26 күн бұрын
​@@imatthewryan4076lmao
@gokukakarot1855
@gokukakarot1855 25 күн бұрын
@@imatthewryan4076trash? You must be new to the scientific community; “trash” isn’t how we gauge a movement
@imatthewryan4076
@imatthewryan4076 25 күн бұрын
@@gokukakarot1855 language is fluid, like your sexuality.
@Liamgane2
@Liamgane2 24 күн бұрын
Hammer curls with cable rope is goated.
@overtonpendulum2071
@overtonpendulum2071 26 күн бұрын
Another drawback of the Dumbell curls is that they have very high progression jumps.
@hmq2007
@hmq2007 25 күн бұрын
Excellent point!
@admirallightningbolt
@admirallightningbolt Күн бұрын
Is it? Hypertrophy is roughly equal from 5 all the way to 30 reps. If you can curl 15 not 20, just keep adding more reps. You’ll get to being able to do the next weight before you get to 30 reps
@overtonpendulum2071
@overtonpendulum2071 Күн бұрын
@@admirallightningbolt Very high reps aren't pleasurable, the burn can get uncomfortable. I prefer to ad weight.
@deus6950
@deus6950 26 күн бұрын
Mike does the lying curls way differently than how you did it
@mukulyadav6381
@mukulyadav6381 25 күн бұрын
Milo really loving the content streak youve been on. these videos are a gift .
@saido3278
@saido3278 26 күн бұрын
I think it’s unfair to group chin ups (supinated grip) and pull up/pull down together. By far chin ups has more bicep activation compared to the other variations.
@marcinkorczynski8418
@marcinkorczynski8418 26 күн бұрын
Fully agree, even siting supinated pulldowns are good for biceps
@maxdavis2111
@maxdavis2111 26 күн бұрын
I see where you’re coming from but pronated pull up/pulldowns give more strength on the biceps. So pronated is arguably better than supinated for bicep growth. Curious what Milo would say
@Flahtort
@Flahtort 26 күн бұрын
He addressed it in some previous video. He doesnt think that supination by itself cause more muscle growth.
@dimoire
@dimoire 26 күн бұрын
Pronated and supinated grips have shown the same amount of growth, I think Menno had a video on this topic recently.
@marcinkorczynski8418
@marcinkorczynski8418 26 күн бұрын
@@dimoire Thnks forr the info !
@scott-88
@scott-88 24 күн бұрын
Need a part two. So many missing! Hammer curl, concentration curl, etc.
@jasonpineo5710
@jasonpineo5710 12 күн бұрын
And spider curl
@alexcastillloo
@alexcastillloo 6 күн бұрын
@@jasonpineo5710 you guys are naming variations of just a regular barbell/dumbbell curl which don't have that much of a different of a resistance profile from the standard one
@karimnajid7190
@karimnajid7190 26 күн бұрын
I hope you drop a series like this for different muscle groups and thanks for the knowledge 👍👍
@t0msula
@t0msula 23 күн бұрын
Another great video. You're basically my go-to PT by now. I'm sure your channel will blow up, just keep on grinding. Greetings from Finland
@joseppebatman
@joseppebatman 25 күн бұрын
Where of the pelican ring curl 😮
@jgillerm
@jgillerm 25 күн бұрын
This was a great video and tier list. Well done Doctor
@Rohit_23-h6n
@Rohit_23-h6n 26 күн бұрын
Very informative, thanks 🙌
@kp41221
@kp41221 Күн бұрын
Dr. Mikes accolades prior to the lying curl had me cracking up 😂
@dogetaxes8893
@dogetaxes8893 14 күн бұрын
My go to bicep exercises are the bayesian and preacher curl. My gym is way too busy for me to hog a bench and 2 cables consistently so the bench cable is normally out of the question. Thanks for the video Mr big bad wolf, your channel is great.
@fatalSolo
@fatalSolo 26 күн бұрын
Milo, may I have your opinion on something. What I have been doing lately is a modified version of the laying dumbbell curl, instead of laying normally on the bench, you lay perpendicular on it and rest your arms on each side of your body. That way you completely eliminate the front delt limiting factor while still retaining the stretch on the biceps (It's basically a laying down Preacher curl). Thoughts?
@dsiluiel
@dsiluiel 26 күн бұрын
Oh this sounds really good! I'll have to give this a shot. Only downside is it seems less stable since you'll be in a glute bridge/hip thrust position?
@marley720
@marley720 26 күн бұрын
I do this single arm, but only at a slight angle. It's great, I'll definitely try your meathod
@xCQj2MwJ
@xCQj2MwJ 26 күн бұрын
This is what I do too, it's great
@ItRhymesWith
@ItRhymesWith 26 күн бұрын
@@dsiluiel arguably, yes, but I'll say that I've never really noticed this as an issue when doing dumbbell pullovers, which are probably harder than biceps curls.
@fatalSolo
@fatalSolo 26 күн бұрын
@@dsiluiel in terms of stability I have had no issues. My one pet peeve with it, is that there is literally 0 tension in the shortened position, which is fantastic don't get me wrong, but the "ego" urge to do more reps than last time sometimes cause me to rest a bit too long in that 0 tension position just so that I can chase another rep- and another rep- and another... (but then again, that's a "me" problem and it's quite common with other exercises as well - DB flies)
@jasonrgriffin
@jasonrgriffin 25 күн бұрын
Do you ever look at specific muscles within a group? The biceps have 3 heads, but we only have best overall rankings. Do they all train the 3 heads similarly? Or should this be split into long head, short head, and brachealis?
@sandeshshetty8918
@sandeshshetty8918 23 күн бұрын
Excellent! Please make more of these exercise ratings. Would love to see one for Triceps.
@worktool76
@worktool76 25 күн бұрын
Amazing Video :) could you please make more these kind of videos for other Muscle groups as for example triceps, forearms, lateral delts and so on? Thank you so much in advance :)
@Pain53924
@Pain53924 26 күн бұрын
I would argue the baysian curl deserves the S tier too. You can do it unilaterally. I have never had issues with stability. Focusing on elbow flexion, I never tend to cheat to complete a rep unlike the standard dumbbell curl. I feel you put too much emphasis on the stability aspect for this exercise. It's also time efficient compared to seated cable curl because a bench isn't necessary. Also both cables aren't available in my gym most of the time.
@Flahtort
@Flahtort 26 күн бұрын
I feel like Milo want not to turn it into thing where every second exercise is an s-tier.
@edwisongogo6326
@edwisongogo6326 26 күн бұрын
Baysian curls are def S tier
@Mapzulu1996
@Mapzulu1996 26 күн бұрын
Try the lying/slight incline bench curls with a bicep blaster to remove the front delts. Brace for an absolutely brutal force curve.
@TheJohnerro
@TheJohnerro 26 күн бұрын
Do tier list for other muscle groups :)
@FerintoshFarmsPhotography
@FerintoshFarmsPhotography 26 күн бұрын
I just home gym it, so lately I do a month or so of barbell, then a month or so of dumbbell. My next investment is a decent bench.
@GUITARTIME2024
@GUITARTIME2024 23 күн бұрын
Don't cheap out on the bench. Heavy duty only.
@doggo64
@doggo64 26 күн бұрын
Isnt doing the bench cable curls with biceps beside the shoulder basically the same as biceps behind the torso according to the latest studies mentioned by you?
@mnakash77
@mnakash77 26 күн бұрын
Im surprised the machine of preacher curl resistance profile is not optimal. I use it and never thought it is easier when the arm is stretched. I'll try to notice it in the next visit in the gym.
@koob_
@koob_ 26 күн бұрын
I think he’s just wrong about that. The machine preacher at the gym I use is biased towards the bottom of the movement. Sort of a weird, sweeping statement to write it off completely as B tier.
@all462
@all462 26 күн бұрын
Varies machine to machine
@LucidStrike
@LucidStrike 26 күн бұрын
@@koob_ He said the strength curve is "usually", "frequently" suboptimal, which means he's acknowledging that it's optimal with SOME machines.
@koob_
@koob_ 26 күн бұрын
@@LucidStrike I know, but I still think he should have expanded on that point a bit more because IMO a machine preacher curl with a good resistance curve might be the best biceps exercise overall. It’s incredibly stable, easy to overload, time efficient, and safe to take to failure (vs. dumbbells/barbell).
@kidbrown2010
@kidbrown2010 26 күн бұрын
"I'm surprised *you think* the preacher curl is not optimal" FIFY
@adamhersperger4885
@adamhersperger4885 6 күн бұрын
I started to incorporate the behind-the-back cable curl into my routine after watching this video, which was a few weeks ago at this point. I am a big believer in this exercise! Thanks for the suggestion! Not only do I get a great stretch under load and feel an amazing pump - but my biceps have also been consistently a little bit sore the next day. This might just be due to the novel stimulus; however, other biceps exercises (even preacher curls) never leave me sore at all despite a pump while performing them. I also want to mention that I have been battling biceps tendonitis for almost a year now. I haven't been able to bench heavy or do any dips since last September when the injury first popped up. I am happy to report that after doing behind-the-back cable curls for 2+ weeks, I was just able to do my first set of dips (deep ones too) yesterday! I have not done anything differently during this time period except adding the new curl variation. The pain is not 100% gone but is definitely way less. I think performing the cable curls behind-the-back have put a healthy stretch on the angry tendon too (I can certainly feel it; it's a mild but productive discomfort in my biceps tendon in the front of the shoulder while doing the movement). I think this exercise has sped up the recovery process of my tendonitis! It's an N of 1, but I really think it has made a difference for the better. I wasn't expecting this improvement in the tendonitis going into it - I just was looking forward to a new biceps variation that seemed better. Therefore, I don't think my improvement is due to a placebo effect either.
@Burkhimself
@Burkhimself 23 күн бұрын
Chin ups are 10x more effective for biceps than regular pull-ups for me.
@ndes0532
@ndes0532 26 күн бұрын
You can eliminate the involvement of the front delts in the lying dumbbell curls by raising the back one level. It's still essentially flat but at least my arms no longer reach the floor even when I completely relax the front delts.
@r3plicant47
@r3plicant47 26 күн бұрын
Preview image is Wolfer than last time
@Bigborian92783
@Bigborian92783 26 күн бұрын
What about dumbell curls using the arm blaster? I felt that had enormous tension in the stretch since it pushes your elbows in front of you and at the bottom the dumbells kind of hyperstretch your bicep
@kobemop
@kobemop 26 күн бұрын
The bench cable curl would be better if there was elbow support, but I'd still go with the one-arm dumbbell preacher curls.
@kobemop
@kobemop 26 күн бұрын
Personally I never get much of a "pump" out of bayesian curls or usually any other cable curls, probably because I have long arms or long forearms. Shorter guys may benefit from those types of exercises anyway.
@kobemop
@kobemop 26 күн бұрын
The lying dumbbell bench curls aren't a great bicep exercise...
@Sportbyscience-zr8yz
@Sportbyscience-zr8yz 26 күн бұрын
good video, thank's, wait for other muscle groupe
@tokimeki8746
@tokimeki8746 26 күн бұрын
I love the preacher curl, and especially for how stable it is. I can push it harder than any other kind of curl and still be sure it's all biceps. I tried the bayesian curl, the reasoning behind it makes sense, but in practice I found reaching back awkward. I'll admit I haven't tried it sitting down, though.
@vincentvaleur3573
@vincentvaleur3573 23 күн бұрын
Am I hallucinating or was there no mention of hammer curls in this video?
@mrAngusGus
@mrAngusGus 26 күн бұрын
@WolfCoaching regarding reverse curls and being restricted by elbow extensor strength, I agree. HOWEVER I think this can be offset by using a dumbbell or cable, and (starting in the stretch with pronated grip) supinating your forearm as you flex the elbow. This may increase involvement of Brach and BR but I think it's NBD because Biceps are also a forearm supinator. Thoughts?
@Raj-zt6hf
@Raj-zt6hf 26 күн бұрын
I have a question about the baysian curl. Ive heard some say to have the cable at arm length or like you've mentioned in this video, higher! why would anyone choose at arms length over putting it higher? Also Menno Henselmans does them differently than you do by not having the arm too back, this was shown on dr.mike isretel's channel. what are your thoughts on how he does them?
@paulnilsson3058
@paulnilsson3058 15 күн бұрын
Rowing exercises with underhand grip are the best biceps exercises, especially chin ups with underhand grip.
@ctestare2625
@ctestare2625 24 күн бұрын
Incline preacher curl is also nice I’d say comparable to the bench cable curl.
@omegaman_
@omegaman_ 26 күн бұрын
As Ben Yanes has mentioned,cable bar curls facing the weight stack will hit the concentric & facing away the eccentric stretch (cable between the legs, I do both back to back..
@nomongosinthaworld
@nomongosinthaworld 25 күн бұрын
Don’t listen to Ben Yanes ever
@joojotin
@joojotin 25 күн бұрын
Also never listen Milo, both of those are dumbasses
@monsieurene3366
@monsieurene3366 18 күн бұрын
For the lying dumbell curl, if you just contract the biceps when the dumbells are closer or on the ground, you can minimize front delts involvement. And you get a crazy stretch. I personally can feel my fibers tearing down on the descend. I think it's much more practicable than using free motion cable curls, for stretching the biceps at both joints.
@kinginthenorth1437
@kinginthenorth1437 16 күн бұрын
Looking forward to the rear delt tier list. Hoping it includes some options that use relatively heavy weight and low reps per set as I seem to respond well to that but it can be hard to find options for some muscles.
@GloriousCat
@GloriousCat 26 күн бұрын
Mostly agree with this ranking. Only thing I would take into consideration is that if you perform the Bayesian curl unilaterally stabilization becomes less of a problem and second in a lot of commercial gyms it's hard to find narrow cable towers + setting up a bench there can be difficult when there a lot of people in the gym and it takes time. So I would personally put both the preacher curl as well as the Bayesian curl performed unilaterally in S+ tier.
@samuelkebede585
@samuelkebede585 25 күн бұрын
I think Dr Mike does the lying curls differently. You can reduce front delt involvement by keeping your hands lower than your body as you would keep your arm behind your body on Incline curls. Tried it the other day, never doing incline again😂
@kalterverwalter4516
@kalterverwalter4516 25 күн бұрын
For me Gymnast Biceps Chin ups as compound movement to start my arm day did Wonders.
@marley720
@marley720 26 күн бұрын
I do the lying curl unilaterally, keeping my upper arm on the bench. That way i take out the front delt. I usually put it on the lowest incline just to make it feel better on my elbows
@rayjones4616
@rayjones4616 26 күн бұрын
I do reverse curls for forearms, the biceps are secondary to me.
@faithnfitnessguykk9569
@faithnfitnessguykk9569 26 күн бұрын
Since you asked, I'd like to know about the cable preacher curl. It is usually set up with a cable extending outward at about the same angle as the pad, relatively 45°. On the torque curve, the heaviest moment arm is about half way. I thought of it as a good way to protect the biceps tendon, but is it a good lengthened position exercise?
@emancurovac7803
@emancurovac7803 25 күн бұрын
The resistance profile on the machine preacher curl is an easy fix, literally just lean back a little and put the elbows a little higher on the pad, and the resistance profile fixes itself, so that it becomes heavy at the bottom to mid position, and lighter at the top
@avichalsinghal4786
@avichalsinghal4786 26 күн бұрын
Aren't flat bench preacher curls like you spoke about a while ago the same as lying dumbbell curls without the front delt isometric? Would those be S Tier?
@Pain53924
@Pain53924 26 күн бұрын
Flat preacher curls put the long head in less stretch compared to preacher curl and the lying curl.
@ptw1422
@ptw1422 24 күн бұрын
Really great vid! Need more like these for sure!
@andrewmillar7798
@andrewmillar7798 20 күн бұрын
Great video! The lying preacher curl can be modified to remove the front delts if performed on a large soft box. bring your elbows to the edge of the box. Lying hammer curls are a variation i love. I would be curious to try a decline lying curl .
@Snerdles
@Snerdles 26 күн бұрын
If stretch is hypertrophic then why does Mister Fantastic not look like the thing or the hulk? Explain that Science!
@Flahtort
@Flahtort 26 күн бұрын
Because of lighting i thought that you beard become gray, Mr. Wolf
@douglasauruss
@douglasauruss 26 күн бұрын
Trying to think how to do a lying bicep curl (or even a Bayesian curl) while supporting the upper arm so the delts aren't involved. You could put two more benches right behind your elbows. Everyone in the gym would love you for it. Thinking about how to build something for my home cable system for the Bayesian curls tho!
@axlvanaudenhove6564
@axlvanaudenhove6564 26 күн бұрын
When I did them, I didn't struggle with my delts though. Maybe you can swap the rep range around and see what works best.
@Jaburu
@Jaburu 26 күн бұрын
I do them since that video from Mike. never felt them challenging my front delts.
@avi_s0ncin0
@avi_s0ncin0 25 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to see Rick “De La Stick” Del Hagen’s reaction to this video while his dogs fart and he frantically paces around waiting for his wife and daughter to get home… and abruptly end the video midway through when they ring the doorbell
@magicricky9726
@magicricky9726 16 күн бұрын
Sorry Dr Wolf, I don't get it. What makes the bench cable curl so different from an incline dumbbell curl? Aren't they identical from a biomechanical standpoint? 🤔
@danielvidalmialoviez5763
@danielvidalmialoviez5763 26 күн бұрын
Ranked SOME biceps exercices. Boosting the algorithm. 😊
@LORDWARIO
@LORDWARIO 23 күн бұрын
Imo the Machine Preacher Curl can go to S tier, by lowering the seat you lengthen the arms more so you have full tention even at the strech position as the weight do not touch down, and at least the machine I am using, it offers the same resistance throughout the whole movement. So I believe it checks all of the tickboxes here.
@eddiegrant58
@eddiegrant58 26 күн бұрын
If starting biceps workout with incline hammer curl can I set the bench quite low in order to maximise tension in stretched portion of lift? Or could this result in injury? Maybe a more moderate angle is advisable for first exercise? I use relatively light weight due to weak and injured wrists.
@hevesvari
@hevesvari 15 күн бұрын
What would be the best bicep exercise if my aim was to load the shoulders as little as possible? I have chronic shoulder pain, and would love to find the best alternative that still lets me train.
@joshgillespiegillespie945
@joshgillespiegillespie945 25 күн бұрын
If you do lying dumbbell curls on the Incline and scoot up the bench a bit you don't have any of the shoulder problem
@ThePhysicalReaction
@ThePhysicalReaction 20 күн бұрын
#1 thing for biceps that people lack is intensity and progressive overload (especially volume). If a person hasn't broken a sweat within the first 3 sets, they need to dial it up.
@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy
@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy 25 күн бұрын
Personal anecdote moment: in a decade of lifting, the best biceps progress I ever made was by doing regular old standing dumbbell curls (neutral grip at bottom to supinated at top) with high frequency (3+ times per week). I still love these because they're simple.
@jjjjrrrr11111
@jjjjrrrr11111 26 күн бұрын
Can you please do this for glute excercises? So little info out there on where tension is put on the glutes in their lengthened position
@MrCurlz
@MrCurlz 26 күн бұрын
Does armblaster usage equals to a preacher curl? Can it be a valid replacement? Cheers
@nomongosinthaworld
@nomongosinthaworld 25 күн бұрын
It’s a very solid option if you don’t have a preacher bench but will have a slightly different resistance profile
@noahmorginstin6922
@noahmorginstin6922 26 күн бұрын
He’s from Belgium
@filipecroaro
@filipecroaro 25 күн бұрын
Wouldn't be better to point the elbows to the ground while lying on the bench?
@deadtoyou6660
@deadtoyou6660 26 күн бұрын
Concentration Curls? Where you rest your elbow on your thigh
@ryankheramusic
@ryankheramusic 20 күн бұрын
For the cable behind the back curl, how high should you set the cable machine? I've seen in another video you said set it so the cable is horizontal at the stretch portion of the lift, but wouldn't this completely take tension off the bicep when fully stretched?
@SolntsaSvet
@SolntsaSvet 14 күн бұрын
Been doing only preacher dumbbell curls for quite some time, and I saw better biceps growth compared to doing standing EZ barbell curls (started with straight bar, after a couple months it f..d up my left wrist badly, had to switch to EZ bar). Anyhow, I only use the EZ bar now for reverse curls in a higher rep range, thinking of it more like an exrecise to target the brachioradialis, rather than the biceps, basically as a forearm exercise. Will try the seated cable curls once I get done with my current and planned progams to focus a little bit more on biceps training for a "mesocycle"and will see what happens.
@ambrelamaligne690
@ambrelamaligne690 23 күн бұрын
A new study by kobayashi and colleagues released a few days ago shows that the preacher curl gives less biceps than the incline curl. On the other hand, it produces more brachialis. What do you think?
@avi_s0ncin0
@avi_s0ncin0 25 күн бұрын
I think Meadow’s Curls should be on here: Super time efficient for any Pull/ Back & Bi’s session (just program them right after or before pulldowns and bring some dumbells to the lat pulldown station), plus they take the best parts of a Preacher curl and incline curl and meld them together. Definitely a staple bicep exercise for me at the moment.
@esembee7717
@esembee7717 25 күн бұрын
Good to know my current bicep exercises aren't terrible, even if not necessarily optimal. It's mainly cable curls in the gym, which are supersetted with tricep pushdowns, then move to rope hammer curls for time reasons and easy incremental weight increases. At home, it's mainly preacher style dumbbell curls using an inclined bench and also get overlap with pull ups on gymnastic rings. I do high rep band curls (and pushdowns) as a warm up, but other than warming up my elbows and a bit of pump, maybe they aren't worth it?
@byrd702rebelcity4
@byrd702rebelcity4 13 күн бұрын
Hard to agree with this video. Standing straight bar curls with a wide grip where your hands end up outside the elbow is a game changer.
@MailManoL
@MailManoL 26 күн бұрын
It seems to me like both the barbell curl and the bench cable curl has the greatest resistance when the elbow is in 90 degrees of elbow flexion and not in the stretched position. Shouldn't the cables be angled in another way for more resistance in the stretched position?
@falaroth
@falaroth 26 күн бұрын
Funny enough, I started doing bench cable curls randomly like 2 months ago after trying to figure out a way to get a huge stretch in my biceps while curling. I've gained over half an inch on my biceps since then. Definitely my favorite (and most painful) bicep workout now lol
@garrettw.lessner4394
@garrettw.lessner4394 17 күн бұрын
Have never felt my front delts on lying dumbbell curls
@Nitriikx
@Nitriikx 25 күн бұрын
Recently, I've started having some sort of transient radial neuropathy after doing lying dumbbell curls. For several minutes, sometimes even hours I will have numbness and tingling in my thumb, and a noticeable loss of extensor carpi control (wrist drop). I don't know what is causing it, has anyone ever had that ?
@glassofwater281
@glassofwater281 26 күн бұрын
Idk if it's just me but I feel like I've been getting really good results from just 2 direct bicep exercises 3 sets each
@edwisongogo6326
@edwisongogo6326 26 күн бұрын
Nobody said u wouldnt
@382u3uuej
@382u3uuej 25 күн бұрын
All I need is a cluster set of standing curls with dumbbells and another cluster of inclined dumbbell curls, you don't need a lot of direct biceps work since training back does half the job, in my case it takes 5 minutes because of the very short rest periods (20 seconds in between sets, around 2 or 3 sets per cluster)
@bobnewkirk7003
@bobnewkirk7003 25 күн бұрын
@@382u3uuej agree. Minimum dose stuff going around is 2-6 approaches to failure a week is all you need for most of your gains, with everything above giving increasingly decreased ROI. So hitting two different angles (L bias, S Bias) for at most a handful of sets should get you covered, especially if you are already programing compounds for back.
@anthonycollins7589
@anthonycollins7589 3 күн бұрын
You most def forgot HAMMER CURLS
@Ak-uj5jr
@Ak-uj5jr 26 күн бұрын
face away cable curl?
@freddym6643
@freddym6643 26 күн бұрын
I know for us vain lads arm isolation is needed since compunds only don't hit the tricep and bicep that well. However, for people training only for health purposes, and who struggle going to the gym consistently at all, would you say that just doing the four upper body compounds is enough work for the arm muscles? Vert/hori push/pull
@JohnVKaravitis
@JohnVKaravitis 26 күн бұрын
Do you have an opinion on the Hoist Roc It bicep curl machine?
@Thesinistereyes1
@Thesinistereyes1 25 күн бұрын
I start with, Preacher Curls, then lying down curl for stretch and cable curls with V grip drop sets for pump. With this the shortened and Lengthen position are stretched so you can pump it with more blood. idk it could be bro science.
@thecompleteartform
@thecompleteartform 26 күн бұрын
This guy is the science based Bradley Martin… “I’m 230” 😅
@imatthewryan4076
@imatthewryan4076 26 күн бұрын
baysian cable curl, low pulley, step out. the explode thru the stretch and the controlled eccentric make it S tier
@Raj-zt6hf
@Raj-zt6hf 26 күн бұрын
ive asked this on this video, but id like your input on where to put the pulley. some say, to keep the pull at arms length, and dr milo says that its optimal to keep it higher to get a bigger stretch. so my question is, which is better, and why would I choose one over the other?
@bobnewkirk7003
@bobnewkirk7003 25 күн бұрын
@@Raj-zt6hf the biceps flex the elbow, so you manipulate the angle of force relative to your upper arm as it serves as the "foundation" for the curl. For a low cable attachment and your arm behind you the force would be highest at 90 degrees of flexion (shortened biased), you can correct for this by bringing your arm forward but that reduces the initial stretch on the bicep making it more like a preacher curl. Edit: the OP is using a Shorten-biased intensity technique to load the movement heavy and focus on a slow eccentric. For a high cable position and your arm behind you the force would be highest at full arm extension and drop off around 90 degrees of flexion (lengthened biased). however most find this position really uncomfortable as it is putting the most rotational force on your shoulder so it feels a lot like the stretch on a deep dip. the result is that this curl would have the lowest loading of any curl variation, which may or may not be how you program movements. all the positions between the two trade one aspect for another. higher position biases the stretch more, but is also puts more strain on you shoulders with backwards rotation. stepping away from the machine just biases the cable angle towards the center of the machine which you could accommodate with an adjustment, assuming you didn't need the extra room to do the curl.
@Raj-zt6hf
@Raj-zt6hf 25 күн бұрын
@@bobnewkirk7003 I appreciate the time to respond Bob. Thanks.
@imatthewryan4076
@imatthewryan4076 25 күн бұрын
@@Raj-zt6hf I agree with Bob. I prefer low pulley and away myself, but I recommend doing 2 warm up sets, medium weight to see which position works for you. this is where youll need to focus on mind/muscle connect and feel that path of resistance as you explode thru the stretch. let me know which one works better for you if you remember! ❤
@Raj-zt6hf
@Raj-zt6hf 25 күн бұрын
@@imatthewryan4076 I've been doing them at arms length for a while now, but I will admit, I am curious about putting the pulley higher because of the lengthened bias. Thanks for the reply, Matthew!
@CH1C4N0444
@CH1C4N0444 25 күн бұрын
I actually like the Bayesian Curls more than the Cable Bench Curls, mostly due to the fact that it's so much easier to set up (I usually go during peak hours), but whenever the gym is super slow I do set up the Cable Bench Curl. My routine also only includes DB Preacher Curls and Bayesian Curls since I almost everywhere I go they're gonna be accessible and I'd rather just get more gains. Question, where would you rank Hammer Curls on this list?
@maxritter7868
@maxritter7868 25 күн бұрын
A hidden benefit of reverse/overhand curls: since they also hit the forearms you will get bigger forearms :) And those will close the gap between your biceps and elbow when you hit a pose, making your arms appear fuller and bigger. Also, a bigger brach will make your biceps pop more, so no harm in training it.
@Bigcheese6875
@Bigcheese6875 26 күн бұрын
Here’s a question: What would the point be of doing any exercises other than the S tier ones?
@LongFacedBastard
@LongFacedBastard 26 күн бұрын
Variation
@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy
@CaptJackAubreyOfTheRoyalNavy 25 күн бұрын
Ease of setup and time efficiency. Nothing simpler than grabbing a couple dumbbells and banging out some curls. Also personal preference shouldn't be ignored for exercises.
@snake1625b
@snake1625b 25 күн бұрын
For the machine preacher curl isn't the resistance uniform throughout the ROM even in the strerched
@mateoedwin4202
@mateoedwin4202 18 күн бұрын
Can’t imagine myself ever performing lying curls
@GameN3rdz
@GameN3rdz 14 күн бұрын
Your weak anyways
@mateoedwin4202
@mateoedwin4202 14 күн бұрын
@@GameN3rdz lol did that comment hurt your feelings? Why don’t you go post another boondocks video lil man!
@MM-tm4sd
@MM-tm4sd 16 күн бұрын
How about cable bar preacher curl ? Should be even better then the regular preacher curl due to the strength curve? Extra effort needed at the top of the lift
@alvinkan3940
@alvinkan3940 26 күн бұрын
What about supination???? This is also a strong action of bicep. I noticed both bayesian and seated cable curls were done in an already supinated position. If one used a short bar with a flange (so grip is not the limiting factor) rather than D handle, you can begin in a neutral position with more stretch and also have tension in frontal plane for supination
@Gumikrukon
@Gumikrukon 26 күн бұрын
7:29 and they say that *Menno* looks like GigaChad...
@ziz971
@ziz971 26 күн бұрын
Nice Video! I hope you do these Videos for all muscle groups. But one question. Why you ranked the cable bench curl so high? You dont have so much tension on the stretch position when the cable is not high. i think on this exercise the tension is most when the arm is about 90degrees. I think this is a little bit the opposite to other exercises like dumbbell fly, dumbbell pullover and so on.
@WolfCoaching
@WolfCoaching 25 күн бұрын
You can set up the cables as high as you’d like! Ideally, creating a 90 degree angle between your forearm and cable at the start of the rep. This will increase tension in the stretch
@ziz971
@ziz971 25 күн бұрын
@@WolfCoaching Thank you for your answer.
@dav2807
@dav2807 22 күн бұрын
Is the preacher curl really that good because of the stretched position or is it rather because it has the best leverage in this position? Not every muscle can benefit from stretch?
@rocksaw765
@rocksaw765 26 күн бұрын
Doesn't the bench cable curl have the same downside you mentioned for the lying cable curl in that it requires a constant isometric contraction of the front delts? I feel like they're pretty similar exercises only with slightly different resistance profiles.
@harrygrossman4378
@harrygrossman4378 25 күн бұрын
Definitely agree with top 2, I do those all the time. What about db hammer curls?
@paulshortall6734
@paulshortall6734 25 күн бұрын
Generally agree BUT in terms of intensity it’s impossible to beat EZ / DB curls - can be really loaded and progressed
@NeerujSethi
@NeerujSethi 17 күн бұрын
Is there are consideration given to idea that after a certain range of motion, there’s more tension being shifted to the bicep tendon on some of these movements than others? For example, (and I’m not an exercise scientist so forgive me if I get some of these terms wrong) I’ve noticed over time that if you extend the Dumbell to 180 degrees on db preacher curl - instead of say 170 - it places more resistsncr on the bicep tendon? I think long term that ends up leading to tendonitis or even full-on injuries - in fact any time I've seen an injury its usually on that very bottom half of the movement
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