Wanting to see every rule for your faction? The full VOD from this video is here, where I read every rule to decide how they’re ranked! 🔴 Talking Spearhead Rules + more Drama??? kzbin.info73e2rPyRqwU?feature=share
@DaBadMoonIsRisin5 ай бұрын
Hey hellstorm, can you possibly reply with a link to the kruleboyz spearhead? Cant seem to find it, which is really sad.
@lionman82955 ай бұрын
Fyi the “old” Stormcast Spearhead has 10 Vanquishers and the Chariot which don’t come in Dominion. So they are not the Vindictors from Dominion.
@HellstormWargaming5 ай бұрын
Good spot, cheers mate!
@gudmundursveinsson9060Ай бұрын
Annoyingly realized this just after winning a bid on half of a dominion box.
@julianmhu5 ай бұрын
Using snapshots of the spearhead boxes may have seemed fine and probably took a minute, but try looking at the rankings at the 18 minute mark. It's very very difficult to parse out which faction is which.
@HellstormWargaming5 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s fair. Made sense at the time. Hopefully you can still enjoy the ride :)
@mrdrprofsteve44553 ай бұрын
Yeah on mobile I cannot see what each box is
@jaredellis27542 ай бұрын
Every single person that does a tier list does this and it's a night mare. Put the list in the comments
@Waywardpaladin4 ай бұрын
Won a Spearhead tournament this weekend. Played Ossiarchs, beat Skaven w/Stormfiends, Stormcast w/ Yndrasta, and Soulblight.
@dracosummoner3 ай бұрын
Also, glad to hear the Lumineth box is good. I'm tempted to get one of those just because their units are so beautiful and I found a gorgeous translucent painting tutorial for the Scinari Cathallar.
@bobgarrow69414 ай бұрын
Played the Skaven vs Chaos Warriors...no room to run. One charge from knights locks Stormfiends down. Skaven is no way a S.
@jonellis34744 ай бұрын
Agreed. We just played Skaven VS Gloomspite Gitz and we managed to lock down the Canon in melee as soon as Turn 1 with a massive Squig charge. Same for the Stormfiends with a unit of Goblins (that got Swifly erased by said Stormfiends unfortunately
@dracosummoner3 ай бұрын
I just had my first game of Spearhead last night, with my completed Sylvaneth box (1 Branchwych [general], 1 Treelord, 3 Kurnoth Hunters with Greatbows, 5 Tree-Revenants). Absolutely loved the game mode and the way the army plays.
@gabeperras3711Ай бұрын
With an unkillable army that teleports out of combat and then heals any damage taken how can you not like the way your op box plays
@dracosummonerАй бұрын
@@gabeperras3711 The teleport-out-of-combat isn't a guarantee. I've rolled a disproportionately high number of 1s when trying to rescue a trapped unit. Likewise when trying to use some of the heal and resurrect spells. Remaining near terrain has been the most reliable healing solution for me. Still, though, fun box and I'm looking into experimenting with others as well. I'm also looking at Flesh-Eater Courts.
@MrMikeM754 ай бұрын
Any chance you can provide your list as a download image? It's hard to read even in hi-res. I am excited about Spearhead - I think it will be a great way to get people into the game! I think I'd rather get a bunch of different spearheads than one 2000pt army.
@timiturret1482 күн бұрын
I picked Hedonites of Slaanesh few days ago and will play against the Skaven Tide Stormcast part. I think I will get crushed in no time, if I see this ranking here…
@FekalKilla3 ай бұрын
after played at Spearhead tournament and several other games and league, I can say, that the whole tiering is all wrong. totally wrong
@timiturret1482 күн бұрын
How would you rate Hedonites or Overlords?
@LeviathanOmega5 ай бұрын
Mikey always says my army is bad. Wait. I'm the 8th ed World Eaters and Emperor's Children player and a Seraphon player. Feelsbadman - Rocco
@JuneauEu4 ай бұрын
Loving the debate in these comments around Seraphon. Ive found them to be S tier, the boss can litterally just "eat" most non monster models at the start of the fight phase, even when charged, the Guard sat on Objectives are genuinely tough to shift and those Krox are slapping everything they hit. Throw in some mortal wounds end of every turn. Yeah. Tough, Hit Hard and good options to adapt play style.
@Bear_of_light264 ай бұрын
Ive gotten to play Seraphon, Cities, and FEC so far and i absolutely have to put FEC in S tier. The cryptguard are kind of junky, but they have a role. But the amount of mobility, damage output, and recursion they have as a set makes them so difficult to shut down, though they are definitely susceptible to a bad turn snowballing. As much as i like the seraphon, i have to call them B tier at best. The Carnasaur is mostly just a nuisance unit, the warriors font get reinforced, and all the real power is in the Kroxigar. Ive founs that if the Kroxigar get taken out its immediately an uphill battle for the rest of the game for them. Cities i give A tier. Their Officers Order is a really good ability that translates directly into scoring points, but much like the Kroxigar in Seraphon, if the Cavaliers go its pretty much game over. The steelhelms do borderline nothing in most match ups, the marshal is solid but cant carry the game on his own, and the cannon can push out some serious damage but lack of Shoot in Combat makes it very easy to just turn off.
@jaredellis27542 ай бұрын
What do you mean thst the sauras don't get reinforced?
@Bear_of_light262 ай бұрын
@@jaredellis2754 in Spearhead some units get the reinforcements ability that shows them to come back once after being destroyed - typically lighter infantry units get it, but the Saurus Warriors do not
@Leviticushateford4 ай бұрын
Great video man!
@MikeGeney5 ай бұрын
2 stormcast 2 skaven... no ironjawz... lol great job GW.
@vyst81325 ай бұрын
To be fair, Skaven and stormcast ones are made out of the launch box and ironjawz were only just split officially.
@ce48795 ай бұрын
If Spearhead takes off or they’re planned for their own battletome & further expansion then odds are good they’ll get one in the future(possibly even White Dwarf rules for a placeholder force) For now you could proxy Ironjawz as a Ogor Spearhead at least(use a Maw-Krusha as the artillery and just fluff it he’s sick so chucking flem at the the foe and doesn’t feel good enough to fight up close yet. :p )
@evefear82104 ай бұрын
Noone care bout ironjokes
@ce48794 ай бұрын
Gork curse ya teef to rot out, humie. 🧌
@theadventurer6854 ай бұрын
@@evefear8210 fr
@adshead73545 ай бұрын
been waiting to get into aos and this seems like a great opportunity, the only problem is that all the teams look absolutely incredible and fun to play! How on earth do I pick
@KHORNATEGAINS6 күн бұрын
Blood for the blood god
@bigpawz932621 күн бұрын
Almost won a Spearhead tournament with the Nighthaunts. Beat Sylvaneth and Seraphon for sure (forgot others) Lost to skaven due to the Twist card that my opponent picks a unit and that unit cant use a ward save, so my 4+ ward on my Hero was negated and it was exacties on me failing saves. otherwise I would have won the tournament.
@cml49143 ай бұрын
DoK arent survivable but are reinforecable in SH, which makes a world of difference. You can also make the Witch Aelves super killy by stacking their buffs. I have found them super fun in SH.
@maximem.ste-marie35785 ай бұрын
How in hell did you put the Ogor Mawtribes in D tier ? I just saw a spearhead game on Season of War and they ANNIHILATED the new Stormcasts. Ogor has way too much stuff, with way too much lifepoints and deals way too much damage. And you put the new Stormcasts in S tiers when they got annihilated by a D-tier. doesn't make sense
@bas79775 ай бұрын
Very true. Although in another video the Ogors lost to the Skaven. But that was partly due to some very bad dice rolling by the Ogors (I think the Tyrant didnt make a single wound), too many lucky saves on Skaven side and some tactical choices that made not enough sense. But I think the Ogors are one of the toughest Spearheads out there! And they are really cool! Also from a hobby point of view they are really good and cool. Big bulky minis, not too hard and too much ro paint, nice variety in type of units and a very good starting box if you want to expand into the AoS army.
@Marcojaralaconich5 ай бұрын
In Aos, the way you play is what actualy decide the winer, in the world tournament a skaven player end second place but skaven was at 44% win rate the whole year Since AoS does not have S vs T units do not make a hard counter to other army/list. Is all about how you play the game
@kiswithy55415 ай бұрын
I have played with them for like three times, and all of my victories fellt like hard fought battles and all of my losses (one) felt oblitterating. I feel like they loose steam very early, barely scraping by with >5 models in the second turn and then having a big comeback for the last two turns, that is if the opponent dosent have too much control over the map allredy. I got wiped two separate times on turn 2, once with an enemy duble turn once without it. The ogors you get to play with at the start are just not tanky enough to survive a good shooting army.
@fredricklindstrom837Ай бұрын
Where can I find this tournament?
@solidsentinel12855 ай бұрын
No iron jawz spearhead is actually criminal by gw, I was gonna get into aos through this as IronJawz
@cyrusmann54434 ай бұрын
id be surprised if they werent added in the future. After all, atleast you aren't a beasts of chaos or bonesplitterz player.
@MrBadmonkeycw4 ай бұрын
I'm hoping for one when the battletome is released. And considering orruks are a fairly popular faction I'm AoS, I'm thinking it won't be too long. My fingers are crossed for for a pig heavy spearhead 😅
@gregorycafiero96884 ай бұрын
This makes me believe Iron Jawz are gonna be one of the first armies to get their tome after skaven and sce
@MrBadmonkeycw4 ай бұрын
@@gregorycafiero9688 Bear in mind, the Orruk battle tome is STILL going to be a combined one. Just more room for ironjawz and kruleboyz with the bonesplitterz having gotten the legacy axe.
@lilv39665 ай бұрын
The video I’ve been waiting for
@Kimtanashino5 ай бұрын
Thanks for this great review ! Very hyped for both Spearhead & 2K points games. If I may, your video would be even better if you reduce slightly your voice's speed. Thank you again, have a great day !
@Jpipooly3 ай бұрын
Having played most of my games with Ogors, split evenly with 3 wins and 3 losses, I feel that they are powerful enough to put in the work. All of my wins have been in matches where I was the attacker and my losses have all been as defender. The highest save they have is from the Tyrant and that is a 4. If you are facing opponents that have any rend, the Gluttons and Leadbelchers will melt. The shooting from the Ironblaster has been a real let down in all of my games, win or lose. Even though they feel they could benefit from some extra survivability or more utility (4+ need for 1 MW charge feels bad), they can do a big chunk of damage (dice gods permitting). My Gluttons alone ate an entire block of Kroxigors. A swingy box of dad bods that, even though some of the rules are weak, is really fun!
@gabeperras3711Ай бұрын
Kinda feels bad that half your army doesn't show up until round 3 only to look pretty and do nothing before the game ends
@JpipoolyАй бұрын
@@gabeperras3711 Yea, that is a major draw back. If the dice are not there for your Gluttons and Leadbelchers, the game will be a very fast and one sided one. I am hoping, in the same vein as the Seraphon, the Mawtribes get a range refresh during this edition. A new Spearhead wouldn't hurt either!
@patrikpacher14934 ай бұрын
Hello guys. Pls i have a question. What about Sons od Behemat? I dont get it clearly from this video. Are they S, are they F? I wanna try them, but dont want to waste money on something that is whole unreliable in battle, or tournaments.
@HellstormWargaming4 ай бұрын
They seem super strong on paper, F because I think they shouldn’t be allowed! 😂
@patrikpacher14934 ай бұрын
@@HellstormWargamingThank you very much for fast response. I think i will go for them 😂
@kennethphillips60065 ай бұрын
Guess I’ll wait for Ironjawz
@lionman82955 ай бұрын
Ikr?! I want Ironjawz so badly, but I can’t find the old start collecting box anywhere!
@AnilShah-l2u5 ай бұрын
Just decided to get into AoS and decided I wanted Ironjawz, I guess no spearhead for me
@Lurkingstill5 ай бұрын
@@AnilShah-l2u you cna always proxy models, we use some iron jawz boys as gutrippaz - as long as base size is the same and they are pretty much foot melee troops you're good
@Keram-io8hv3 ай бұрын
Next year
@tyronbower46324 ай бұрын
Literally destroyed all A tier with FEC spearhead. Lumineth are terrible worse than cities
@JuneauEu4 ай бұрын
Question - those big 3 models have the Reinforcement. Does that mean EACH model gets to reinforce once, or just one unit of them?
@HellstormWargaming4 ай бұрын
The gargants you mean? You can reinforce each unit once, but not the general
@JuneauEu4 ай бұрын
@@HellstormWargaming so essentially, 5 gargants over course of the game. Damn....
@heromedley2 ай бұрын
FIRESLAYERS MENTIONED WTF IS A NEW MODEL
@pst53453 ай бұрын
Gitz and Skaven are S tier. The 3 beat stick models of each band are fucking annoying while the chaff comes back endlessly
@AndyBarnard-r6t2 ай бұрын
please timestamp each army :(
@BBBaka1234 ай бұрын
Sons of Behemat are hilarious to play and play against! (They seem pretty terrible though 😂)
@agentsmithmememe18 күн бұрын
Gloomspite Gitz easily Top A or low S
@B4H4D45 ай бұрын
do khorne daemons not have a spearhead?
@HellstormWargaming5 ай бұрын
No, just blades of khorne. Daemons don’t have individual factions right bow
@B4H4D45 ай бұрын
@@HellstormWargaming oh.. I got myself the khorne daemons box not long ago thinking I could save thousands and just play one army across all game types.. What can I do with these khorne daemons then?
@LlamaLordofDeth5 ай бұрын
@@B4H4D4 You wouldn't be able to use them in an AoS spearhead games, but they're still usable in combat patrol style games of 40k, or normal games of AoS and 40k. Points wise, they seem to be higher points in AoS (at least with my wife's slaaneshi daemons in AoS 3rd). The box would give you a solid start to a blades of Khorne army. Just grab a couple more boxes of units and you should be at 1k points. If you want to be able to run everything between the two games, you're a little more limited as the monogod daemons in 40k don't have a huge variety of choices outside of HQs.
@B4H4D45 ай бұрын
@@LlamaLordofDeth dang.. thought I found a loop hole. haha I really do like the models in the kit though and would love an entire daemon army if possible. if not maybe I should veer into blades of khrone as well. I loved the set they had with the leader who had his own personal flesh hound on a leash. Thanks for the chat btw! :D
@MalcadorTheSigilite5 ай бұрын
A shame about the Ogor mawtribes
@maximem.ste-marie35785 ай бұрын
not really. I think he's making a mistake, He almost admits anwering my post.
@HellstormWargaming5 ай бұрын
Eh, I think they look mediocre. But that’s the fun of a list! It’s opinion not fact
@TheSkullboy19965 ай бұрын
kenobi isn’t anyone’s favourite warhammer creator, certain who slithered his way in from a dying game
@Backstabmacro4 ай бұрын
Funny enough, Kenobi’s video showing off his Blood Angels army was what convinced me to try this hobby. Don’t really follow him as a creator, but I can squarely credit him with making me take the plunge and buy paint and models.
@Kosmunist3 ай бұрын
The Ogor box could have been better, example: Butcher (Cause Tyrant is trash) 2x 6 Gluttons (cause BCR are trash) Iron Guts LeadBelchers to fill the points. Now you have a good spearhead
@PaoloTurco-r7r4 күн бұрын
I gotta disagree. From all the games we've played and the tournament with 24 players and 4 matches, here's what we found: TIER S gloomspite (These decks are so easy to play, even a caveman could do it) blade of korne TIER A Slaves to Darkness Maggotkin if Nurgle Nighthaunt Stormcast Eternals Soulblight Sylvanet TIER B Orruk Warclan Flesh-eater Courts Daugher of Kaine Ogor Mawtribes Son of Behemat Skaven Tier C Ossiarch Seraphon Tier D City of Sigmar Fyreslayer Hernodites Of Slaanesh Tier E Kharadorn Overlord (with my sad) Darkoath Raider (ony 1 game NA)
@warp5p1d3r65 ай бұрын
grifter
@zielisawzielony9366Ай бұрын
Playing with such big minis on less than 3x3 board is straight unfun and boring way to play warhammer. Total corpo gameplay.