I REPENT | The Dwayne and Jennifer Podcast | Podcast

[@jessicachislettheron]

I left IHOPKC in 2012 burnt out and feeling like I had failed. I’ve carried that shame for a decade. Thank you for speaking out, it helps add clarity to the fog a lot of us are walking out of.

[@StrongLuv]

Everyone is looking for signs and wonders and ecstatic experiences. Humility of heart and repentance are the kind of signs and wonders that mean something to me. This is true Christianity.

[@arunamy362]

🔥

[@bradorchard5828]

Thank you for this video. I don't want this to sound bad, but I have been waiting for people to publicly DIS-avow the "prophetic history" and the potential/actual damage that it caused. Thank you guys. I will say this, you are right. it is NOT specific to IHOP, but the elitism, or "We're more special" feeling can infect almost any Christian ministry. I even saw it in college at my Baptist Student Union.

[@carolyndunegan3505]

Dwayne you said it all not just for IHOP but a charismatic church bringing prophecy forward as if it was The sacred word Or bringing the word forward as a support to prophecy, not the other way around

[@chrismirjam]

Thank you Jen for renpuncing and thank you Dwayne for your humility and your repentance.. You expressing this and talking is bringing healing and freedom even beyond those who were in IHOP. I pray many hear this 🙏🏻♥️ love, Mirjam Bos (Klop)

[@JonDees-rr5uv]

You are saying so many things I’ve felt for years after leaving the Charismatic movement back to my reformed roots that I could never put words too. Thank you these conversations are immensely helpful!

[@fredfcampos]

Dear Dwayne and Jennifer: as a Brazilian, I would like to thank you so much and give glory to God for your life. I am a pastor in Rio de Janeiro and the daughter of my fellow pastor attended the 6-month internship of FHOP this year. To see you as a couple sharing this humbling experience with us, the body of Christ, is more than symbolic, it is really, truly prophetic. 🙏🙌

[@matti7777777]

Thank you both so much. I teared up several times in this episode. I never felt that you or Jen needed to repent to me or anyone, but I was surprised at how healing it was for me to hear it from a former senior leader. The elitism, the commoditizing of people, the favoritism shown to those of certain giftings, the ignoring of sexual predation or of the biblical qualifications of an elder, the unbiblical teaching about the Sermon on the Mount or the life of David... So much. People need this, and I'm so grateful you recognize the grave necessity for deep repentance and healing within this particular branch of the Church. Love to you guys ❤

[@bboop200]

Yes. We were on staff at the beginning IHOP. And we were peons and completely disposable. We felt it all the time. We worked through it with Jesus and knew we were there because of HIM and no one else…..so we dealt with it. (By the grace of Jesus….we were a bit older 28 yrs old) when we got there…..and had some depth with Jesus…..but don’t know if we could’ve walked with Jesus if we’d been 18 y/o. We got some true love and community from other IHOP peons 🤣🤣🤣….and one dear worship leader at the time. So thank you, Jen and Dwayne, for recognizing this and apologizing on behalf of the leaders. GO JESUS

[@TheFreedomDefender]

Is this Reyon?

[@kristianavolkers1024]

Thank you. For every word. Thank you for speaking into the prophetic - into the yoke & bondage of it when wrongly used. Thank you for being bold, and staying TRUE to THE Man Who has the last word. We are yoked to CHRIST.

[@rdifilippo5451]

I agree!! Thank you so so much for your healing words…

[@lynnreed829]

These are SO helpful to me, Dwayne and Jennifer! As part of the Simeon internship initially, my wife and I were never really positioned to be insiders from the get go, but we stayed 12+ years, and were impacted enough to get great benefit from your sharing. Thank you. I look forward to more. You express things I have felt but couldn't put into words. I do appreciate your honesty and desire to heal and build up. P.S. We really liked it when you taught our Simeon, Jennifer. That was winter of 2008. Also, One Thing was a big draw for us before we ever moved the at the end of 2007. I remember wondering, Dwayne, why you were sidelined. I noticed it, didn't know why, but of course, didn't ask any questions. I'm sorry for that I had the same fear of man.

[@kirksmith8448]

GOLD! Thank you both for your transparency… The beauty of humility and truth and righteousness is releasing the fragrance of Christ. I do pray for full restoration for every heart leading to great victory for hisnames sake. Every blessing! K ❤

[@davidsayers6609]

The hubris and arrogance you talk about is rampant throughout the Charismatic movement. That head of the arrow business is also an unspoken concept in YWAM.

[@arunamy362]

Yes, in YWAM too.

[@matti7777777]

I also appreciated what you shared about your own abusive experience. It helps to understand that our own experience a few levels down was actually systemic even up at the top. - Song Harri

[@MB-sg8dx]

I appreciate your transparency. What occurred to you sounds like a classic case of devalue and discard by a narcissist. Im still reeling from my own experiences with this that have come to light over the past two years (not related to IHOP). It seems this is being experienced, and now exposed, everywhere - both corporately and individually, as God pulls back the curtain and lowers the boom on those who have been mistreating His sheep.

[@bethanybarnette4176]

Thank you so much for the transparency.. this is helping me even with leadership abuse within my career and because of Mike buckles teaching about responding to bad leaders (aka Saul) I’ve allowed many things to not being confronted

[@mj_byrd]

This was the pastoral video I’ve been waiting for. Thank you!

[@leebillyc1677]

Hey Dwayne and Jen, thanks for your honesty and continued openness in this mess. God bless you guys!

[@jfabian1912]

I was at IHOPKC for four years as a student! Young and naive I was. I ended up leaving Christianity together thanks in part to IHOPKC. I left and went into the public health sector. I help and love people without needing to be coursed by some deity. I do it because I genuinely love and care.

[@asmith1230]

I'm sorry you didn't find love there. There's a book called God is No Thing that unravels that the Jude-Christian claim has historically seen God not as a Thing inside creation, but a Spirit transcending creation. He's more than a character in a story, but the Narrator himself speaking through all creation (though not creation). My intention here is not to be argumentative, but to say that Christians (myself included) are guilty of speaking of God vainly many times. But God's life-giving spirit leads all, you and me both, to help and love others even if we don't know it. What you know to be love (the idea and it's source), is what I call God. Sadly enough we have failed in imaging/reflecting that love more often than not.

[@Awesomeness-h2x]

Thank you. The time I was introduced to you guy by Wes Adams at FCF I could not have felt more ignored and overlooked....thank u for being the real deal...

[@Awesomeness-h2x]

no reply. like Bickle

[@austinst.laurent3262]

Thank you both for your authenticity, humility, and sincere pursuit of God.

[@Zadok1977]

I appreciate you guys I think we have all at some point in our walk with God fallen into a critical spirit and prideful spirit and a lustful spirit I believe the Lord is going to bless you guys for your transparency and your repentance I pray that this heart will spread throughout the body of Christ, especially in leadership ❤❤❤

[@silverbirdy6770]

This video is incredible. I want to thank you both for speaking such healing words and Jennifer, thank you for being EXTRA! You hit it on the nail when you said & called it what it is! Thank you so much!! God bless you & your family.

[@janeylynn5934]

I experienced my own kind of church abuse a number of years ago, and it still affects me every day. The pastor has passed away from cancer since then, but I wish some of the church staff and church members would do what you are doing here. No one ever took any responsibility for what happened. This is so important. (Besides the abuse mentioned above, I was also employed by this church, and experienced the kind of unfair treatment you describe here when it came to pay/how much I made compared to others.) I think what you describe about favoritism is true across the board in American churches/circles - the “cool factor” is so strong, and is a huge problem among Christians almost everywhere. I sometimes feel like I’m still in high-school, as it seems like no one has grown up - everyone still favors those who are seen as cool. This should not be true in the Body of Christ.

[@michellethompson8520]

Hey Dwayne and Jennifer. I am so proud of you guys for saying what you are saying. Wow what a journey you have been on. It was an honor to walk alongside of you in Amsterdam. We had so much fun and craziness and deep times. Pete is cheering you on from heaven. ❤

[@matthewtomlet2278]

Thank you so much Dwayne and Jennifer, this has been VERY VERY HELPFUL. God bless you both abundantly.

[@lizbrown4790]

I was only at ihop for a 3 month internship. But I remember feeling more spiritual than those not at ihop. Problem is, I soon realized I didn’t even like being in the prayer room, dreaded fasting (couldn’t do it) and basically was the “least spiritual” person (according to me) in the whole ihop scene. I battled a lot of condemnation. So I quickly didn’t measure up and I see it now as God’s protection and that I left KC less than a year later. It has taken years to realize it wasn’t me. It was the cultural environment around me feeding that “manic” drivenness I saw and felt inside of me. Phrases like “contend”, “wholehearted”, “giving myself”, “fear of the Lord”, “following hard after God”.. in me (and probably others) bred a feeling of never enough. Christianity was just hard work and only the extra special sold out people would “endure to the end.” God help us. None of us knew there was pride and elitism behind it. And it’s not just ihop. I drank the coolade of spiritual elitisim starting in college when I was filled with the spirit (I honesty don’t know if I agree with that theology or maybe terminology anymore). It’s only been in the last few years that I realized how much of my walk with God involved “cutting edge” ministries. Many were legit but I know in my heart it felt sooooo good to be a part of the “new revelation”. Something bigger than myself that others didn’t know about yet. It put a yoke of responsibility (a burden) on my heart. And bred pride. But I WAS SINCERE and truly wanted people to experience what I was experiencing. The problem with that, is that I assumed people need to have my journey instead of trusting that God has each one of us in a different place and a different timeline with different experiences. Oh so much more to say..but I really related to so much of what you both shared. Thank you so much for shedding light on it and for the deep humbling of putting yourself out there so others can be free.

[@ilya_ostapenkko]

Thank you for speaking up🔥🔥

[@marthasoenen2790]

Thank you for your transparency and honesty, baring your souls. It’s so helpful when people are transparent. And thank you for speaking to the way Mike Bickle treats people. It’s hard to comprehend how someone can be so calculating in using and then discarding people he no longer has use of. It’s evil, in my opinion. I’m glad you’re on your healing journey and you will help so many through your testimony. Keep going!

[@miryamrodriguez]

Very strong I’ve followed ihop since 2010 and listening all is these I want to cry Sadly, there is a lot of spiritual abuse in the church today

[@fondamclain4727]

Thank you for publicly repenting. What a breath of fresh air in the middle of bad air. I know that God honors this. Amen! Only Jesus Christ is the foundation of the church, certainly not the prophetic.

[@arunamy362]

A breath of fresh air in the middle of pollution for sure!

[@ashleybarrettknits]

Get it Jennifer 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@JonDees-rr5uv]

This is another thing you mentioned that I’m shocked so many people ignored for years. From all I can gather Mike was a terrible husband and father whose kids have fallen into the same sins as their father. He seemed to always care 1000% more about his ministry and legacy than his marriage and kids

[@Nathan-Main]

Another good video! It was HELPFUL that you shared details of what MB did to you at IHOP. Finally the truth is coming out. When everyone paints a glorious picture of Mike and that is all we know, the rest of the story needs to come out. Right now I’m watching Bob Scott on Wake Up And Win. Please share what Bickle allowed to happen bad to you later in Brazil or whatever. I can confirm Bickle was traveling alone with women not his wife when he preached at TACF (Toronto) 25 years ago because I actually asked a woman in the know at one of those conferences. It was a red flag I chose not to worry about but it definitely concerned me.

[@pdkonkol]

The story of how you were sidelined regarding onething is…crazy!!! That is a powerful story. Uh, around 1:05 you use the fear of becoming an illegitimate son of God of the father to motivate people to “respond correctly” to abuse. I would seriously reconsider this style of communication.

[@michellefinkbiner]

I didn't realize how much I needed to hear that moving away from the IHOP-KC 500 mile radius was not moving out of range for God's special "blessing". Hearing leaders take accountability for what caused harm really brought tears to my eyes ❤️‍🩹

[@katabartha6453]

Thank you for your honesty. It is edifying and eye-opening. God bless you.

[@LindeeL-wl2hw]

After all the abuse I witnessed at IHOPkc that came directly from Dwayne for me its too little too late. It feels like a reputation saving exercise.

[@julianathompson5068]

god I hope this video leads to personal, open, honest, productive conversations that heals us.

[@Kelly11987]

This was an incredibly good listen. Thank you guys so much for your heart for Jesus, His truth and His body🤍🤍🤍

[@ronlagerquist9163]

This is huge for me. Clarity. Beautiful healthy clarity. Thank you

[@bethlanoue589]

Thank you for being transparent and sincere! God Bless as you move forward through this heartbreak. Praying you find and have JOY through our LORD, Jesus Christ!✝️ (Mics need to be turned up next time please…)

[@bruceburchfield8825]

Thank you Dwayne and Jennifer!

[@discipleinlight]

Why I liked IHOP. It was....almost....the only group teaching the truth of the post trib rapture. Almost....the only Pentecostal/Charismatic group that was teaching the sermon on the mount. Teaching on prayer. Very rare among the majority of groups I know of. The praise and worship that was so wonderful from the time my wife and I began watching the live stream in 2009 until around 2014. Why I never became a part of IHOP. They taught Trinitarianism and missed the truth of One God in Christ. They rejected what David Pawson taught them about the new birth. They taught immortal soul error and Women leadership. IHOP has been part of my Christian life I wont forget that. So sorry it turned out that way.

[@esthercrawford9645]

Thank you this was very helpful.

[@Santiago-m1k4i]

Dwayne you mention much of Mikes teaching in prayer was Biblical. I agree. But it must be mentioned what was unbiblical. I also was there in the beginning. The part I later became uncomfortable with was the movement of “contempletive prayer” that snuck in the back door of the evangelical church. Many accepted it because of its cool,mystical appearance. But Jesus never taught this! However, books by Teresa of Avila, and St. John were in ihops bookstore! Now many of our own evangelicals are teaching us to do “breath prayers” to slow our mind to a halt. Let’s not forget discernment.Yes as believers we can hear from God in prayer.But it doesn’t mean everything we hear is from Him! Especially if we are engaging in unbiblical prayer methods! May we get back to the simple basics and the Gospel!

[@fondamclain4727]

I know one man who will and has refrained. My Pastor. Pastor John Kilpatrick. Oh how I thank the Lord for our Pastor.

[@elizabethcurylo6158]

Your pastor covering Beni Hinn ! I was shock when Brenda said we need to cover him up ! Did I misunderstand her ? Covering him up from financial abuse ? His wife finally had enough and left him

[@dusankakandija7423]

congratulations on the repentance! God bless you

[@amandaguthrie732]

Thank you!

[@lokius]

Thank you❤

[@JonDees-rr5uv]

I wish at some point you would speak to the subject of Misty Edwards and the level of brainwashing/abuse you feel she experienced while there

[@asmith1230]

I kind of actually like they are focusing now on their own participation and failures and generally calling out wrongs in the culture. I dunno, maybe they shouldn't be focusing on individual people's sins.

[@jonathandeez8176]

My comment was not to ask them to talk about Misty’s sins but more because many see her as one of the biggest victims of MB and the IHOP machine. She moved there when she was just a teenager, Mike convinced her she had a “call to celibacy” on her life, and many believe she was sexually groomed and abused by Mike although that has not been 100% confirmed

[@lindag9975]

Thank you so much for your honesty and vulnerability. You have set a standard now for current IHOPKC leaders to also come clean. I was in the Vineyard movement for nearly 2 decades, and I also have been repenting of attitudes I assumed there. Vineyard basically put Bickle and the KC prophets on the map by giving them a platform and bringing them into Vineyard. I thought I had understood how wrong I was in prior years until Bickle's sins were revealed. I then saw how I had been deceived about him too. Because we are fallen, there are ways to get noticed in almost every church. In Vineyard, it was mostly about charismatic giftings. In my Baptist upbringing, it was mostly about knowing the Bible. Both are important but are to be used to bless each other instead of seeking advancement of ourselves.

[@Awesomeness-h2x]

no honesty here

[@georgesamuel4403]

John 7:18 …the same is true… (KJV) . 🙏🕎✝️❤️📖🐑🕊🙏

[@asmith1230]

Maybe God chooses unique geographical areas to protect and bless.. But what would the apostles and prophets of past do?... Stay in those safe places or go out to the gates of hell and to all the broken places? Love should call us to carry crosses to reach the lost and the weary.

[@dusankakandija7423]

Christianity is about CHRIST THE LORSD, not about us, The BIble clearly shows the depravity and sinfulnes of the ENTIRE HUMANITY, THE FOCUS AND VISION IS JESUS CHRIST. not that we ourselfs or some ministry in any prophetic or any other way is "special" God bless you and keep you

[@TheFreedomDefender]

He reminds me of Captain Kirk. He talks with his hands alot.

[@prophetesslynettawhite]

I repent

[@leajennings6892]

Affair yes but sexual improprieties with individuals that are under age I feel should be a life long exit from ministry.

[@felixguerrero6062]

But sady you still held on to the error of Christian Zionism...

[@elizabethcurylo6158]

Jennifer please cover your breast all the way ! We don’t need this, I’m older then you and why no one taught this too you ? I’m so sorry that church is not teaching that, cover your body. It belongs to your husband ( your body ) don’t expose it to others. I hope you can change that

[@GreenRoomwithSydneyandChloe]

Who asked you? Her outfit is completely appropriate and comments like these are not helpful whatsoever.

[@standstandstand7817]

Not a very Christian like response especially when you are tied to this by being in the family. Your parents just publicly repented. You represent leadership here. Support each other. Love each other. Let’s stop tearing each other apart. If we learned nothing else from this ihop debacle, we should learn to love each other. That’s the gospel. That’s His saving grace. That’s why God sent His Son for us. Please let’s stop tearing each other down. There is a way to speak the truth in Love.

[@bethanyp.6490]

I didn't even see it till I read this comment...😂😅😆

[@nelits]

Thank you!