I ride a BMW R1300GS. It does have 165 HP. Would this tempt me away from my 1250GS?

[@mardelplatalimousines3423]

As always a very honest, objective and eloquent description that covers just the correct info that we need to want this motorbike. King regards from Catalonia!

[@travisboam9612]

I think everybody is missing the big picture with that unique headlight. We dont have to look at it while riding and will certainly get the attention of 4 wheelers going to make a turn in front of us. If it saves rider's lives, I'm all for it 👍👍

[@gsd32i]

Good point!

[@williamrae9954]

"Unique"? I'm waiting for the Matt Gecko lawsuit in the USA,BMW are either going to have to pay him off,or change all those h'lamps...his registered design!

[@ReferenceFidelityComponents]

It’s bloody hideous looking from the front and no, car drivers will pay no more attention to it than any other bike so it won’t save lives, that’s misleading and without a shred of evidence. Saccadic eye movements from drivers in vehicles at junctions are as likely to miss this as any other. It does have decent performance and handling but has forgotten what it is in an attempt to keep up with the Jones’s. The 1200 and 1250 had that perfect blend of torque to adequate power which worked well off road and on road had better looks, better pillion comfort and suited the slightly lazier more compliant ride. It’s also a lie to say its much lighter. It isn’t spec for spec, it just distributes it better and feels lighter. Vfm, the new tiger 1200 trumps it. It’s better kitted out too and a way better road touring bike for two up riding but I still distrust longevity of triumphs after a bad ownership experience. I much prefer the 1250/1200RS for road work and won’t be jumping on the 1300 bandwagon anytime soon. In the real world it offers nothing more and is terrible vfm. Good luck to anyone buying one. Some just have to have the latest model and if you have the means, why not. Oh, and it is NOT “banging out 165bhp”😂😂😂😂. It’s rated as 156bhp at the crank.

[@williamrae9954]

@@ReferenceFidelityComponents Back end of the new Triumph 1200 is horrendous... started out a a single sider, went to the pub for lunch,had a few too many,came back in and designed that mess?

[@ReferenceFidelityComponents]

@@williamrae9954 I agree

[@creedm3040]

Awesome video! I have a '22 GS almost exactly like yours. Would I trade? Nah, never in a million years. I love my bike. It's hard to put in words but she is just perfect for me. Best!

[@gsd32i]

Thanks 👍 My 1250 needs a clean , it got wet 🙈😂

[@911aircooled5]

I ride both a 1200GS and a horse. Thank You for being respectful to the horserider. 👍 Was waiting for the 1300, but just not convinced with all the tech etc. Will look to a 1250.

[@gsd32i]

I am an animal lover with 2 German Shepherds and 2 cats 🤪

[@andrewmason2879]

I have just bought a new gs Adventure 1250 rally with a full set of luggage and i absolutely love. It will do the job for me and the wife for doing so long touring on. The new gsa I do like them but it would have cost me an extra 4 grand. but i just love the look of the old style rugged beast of the gs Adventure 👍👍 and I am a new bmw owner never ridden or own one before

[@gsd32i]

Good choice! Enjoy, my wife has trouble getting on when we are loaded up....normally ends up with me shouting at her , asking her what the heck she is doing as the bike wobbles all over the place....oh she has trouble getting her leg over the top case 😂

[@andrewmason2879]

@@gsd32i yep I will probably have the same trouble 😂 it’s all good fun mate 👍

[@Bitwobbley]

Another great review, in your usual real world style. Although I have not ridden one yet, the looks are starting to grow on me, especially the triple black one. Interested to see what we get when they release the Adventure model. Still not sure about the front light though 🥴

[@witofthestaircase1]

Looks nice without the radars

[@samhill3496]

1st time on your channel. Good review. Real world. I would have a centerstand. Nicely equipped. Fun ride even RTW.

[@gsd32i]

Thanks! 👍

[@armourbl]

Damn that is cool looking.

[@maxflight777]

Gorgeous wheels and tyres

[@Gundimuck]

Another good real world review mate 👍 I think this bike falls into "I can so I will category" 165 bhp on what is pretty much off road tyres, like 145 isn't enough! Would make sense if the bike had sports road tyres, now that would be fun 😁

[@gsd32i]

Totally agree

[@jimthompson717]

I have an R1250GS Rally. I love it. I have been hating this 1300 for a few months. Now I am ready to buy one, for all the reasons one buys a new bike. I will know after my test ride.

[@gsd32i]

Oh dear...more money 😁

[@jimthompson717]

@@gsd32iits a better bike in every objective measure, in my humble opinion, only.

[@jackmccourt6180]

Aside from the headlight I actually really like the looks. I do think its a bit of a departure from the rough and rugged look that defines a GS... but in itself I still think its a good looking bike. I just can't see me spending the extra money to upgrade though. I love my 1250gsa

[@jimthompson717]

Looks like a Japanese sport bike. It's lighter, faster. But most owners use these as long distance cruisers, where weight is less critical. And they were already fast. I'll keep my r1250gs for a while yet.

[@gsd32i]

to be honest….. so will I. ( for the time being 😂) does seem to have lost some of its manly gs ness. apologies for being non pc🙈😂

[@butlersg1]

I’ve never had a GS - did test ride the 1200 and wasn’t gone on it - the 1300 is the first one I’d buy.. I love the look of it but I need to test ride it

[@bigdog44b4u]

Great video as always. Nice review but a no go for me. This time the latest and greatest is not that. I love my 22 1250 GS. Not giving it up. I am just not a fan of the front of this bike. I just think the 1250s are so classic.

[@gsd32i]

yup👍

[@lukaszg74]

Old gs looks like fat elephant , I would never buy one but this one is the first gs I really like

[@expatbiker6598]

That trophy looks like a sharp tool for its purpose. I wonder how light it is given all those removals of center stand, foot pegs... At 20:02 must have been awkward with the people at the viewing place. Lucky there was no Ken

[@gsd32i]

Government workers on a break!

[@NJWMOTO]

Would be nice to see some Dyno charts of the before and after re map any claims on torque increase? 20 BHP sounds like a very bold claim unless BMW massively de tuned it to hold back for a M version???

[@gsd32i]

If I had it I would post it. sadly I don’t, however I have no reason to question the owners claim. it is rapid. 👍

[@mungo75]

Admittedly only 6 minutes in, but you'd think if the guy's mad on off road he'd go for spoked wheels no? Am I missing something, not up on the ol' GS's but have BMW designed a mega strong mag wheel or something?

[@gsd32i]

Yes it's something like that, but I am certainly no expert!😂

[@Scratcher2860]

Think they are the forged wheels - Suitable for off-road

[@elyoen77]

Very nice bike, waiting for my 1300 triple black in March 😛 are those mirrors motogadget race? What’s the arm stroke length? 150 or 180mm? Thanks!

[@gsd32i]

TBH don't know ref arm stroke. I believe the mirrors are motogadget from Wunderlich, but not 100%

[@stevecockton6624]

Another grand review 👍. Traded in my 19 plate GSA for a Tiger 1200 GT Explorer and love it, but be interesting to see the new R1300 GSA for a change back in a few years time. Off topic, what intercom system are you using and what size Kreiga have you got - Any good, worth the money ?

[@gsd32i]

20 litre, sena 10s BUT just ordered the Cardo backtalk edge....enjoy the GT 👍

[@taz473]

It's 145 hp? Lovely bike but nothing could temp me away from my 1290 superadventure ❤

[@gsd32i]

Fair enough!🤪

[@bradleyalexander5821]

October 1st of 23, I watched a video of the 1300, did not like the look of it at all. Oct. 12th I purchased a 2023 R 1250 GS before they sold out. Could not be happier with my 1250. I’m certain the 1300 is a better bike, just not for me. Is the warranty void if motor is flashed and tuned?

[@gsd32i]

I think I am in that camp when it comes to the 1250...still looks like a gs, whereas the new one looks like the GS has had a one night stand with the XR and the 1300 is the result. Apparently doesn't effect the warranty.....but! It does make a noticeable difference, which is why I said the standard 1300 that I tested didn't blow me a way with the engine. Sure the rest of the bike is just way tighter , lighter and easier to flick around. Possibly in denial and the inevitable will happen next year as and when I seek to change my 1250.....but it's a great bike ...easy to go around in circles ..keep it/change it for the new one etc🙈

[@milabaigar]

Yup me too 1250 gs triple black 2023 the dogs dangles 🤣🤣. And I would say any altering of the mapping unless done by bmw would void you warranty , and here they don’t do it and have never heard of it !! southern Spain !

[@gsd32i]

@@milabaigar enjoy the sunny weather . Safe ride 👍

[@steevmeister496]

Nice bike and ride. What jacket is he wearing?

[@gsd32i]

Bering Austral jacket and trousers

[@steevmeister496]

@@gsd32i thanks 👍

[@sthr2110]

I thought it had 145hp. Anyway, I think I'll stick with my 2015 KTM 1290 Super Adventure, which has electronically adjustable suspension, electronic cruise, multiple rider modes, 3 piece luggage, crash bars, 160hp, ABS, traction control, blah blah blah...just no Bluetooth connectivity (not that I'd ever use it as I use the connection between my phone and helmet, only) or a quick shifter (which, I will admit, IS a minor bummer)...paid $6K USD for it and it is a truly wonderful machine. Had enough left over (when compared to the R1300GS minimum cost) to buy a 2023 Gas Gas ES700 with 190 miles and put a few grand of nice extras on it...and still had some $ left lol ! Nice bikes, for sure, but they're just too expensive, for what they are.

[@gsd32i]

I know what you mean 👍

[@johnharvey5338]

Do like the wing mirrors, what make are they? Who reflashed it and I always like to see dyno runs to show what they say is correct.

[@gsd32i]

Mirrors are from Wunderlich, Hilltop flashed ...no dyno info from the owner though.

[@ck166666]

How do you see where you’re going? Dark tinted visor backed up with tinted glasses, wasn’t expecting that!

[@gsd32i]

Pretty easy really. 👍

[@eriklindhardsenact7596]

At night when it is raining tinted visor is a no no

[@gsd32i]

@@eriklindhardsenact7596 Really? I never knew that. Mate I have clear visors and different helmets if I ride at night🙈

[@eriklindhardsenact7596]

@gsd32i yeah I try3d riding in rain at night horrible had to keep visor open all the time then got soaked they do warn not to wear helmet with tinted visor at night on my schuberth helmet

[@siamadani]

Where are you riding? Looks amazing!

[@gsd32i]

The Island of Jersey, Great Britain. 👍

[@ItsAllJustBollox]

The famous Hilltop remap claims to increase the power of a normally aspirated engine by nearly 15% just like that.

[@peterfalconer-h3k]

A before and after dyno run would be interesting to see.

[@TheTommiart]

HE got 20HP from a ECU flash. I call BS

[@gsd32i]

😂

[@ItsAllJustBollox]

If it was so easy why did BMW need a bigger displacement brand new engine to get 10 more ? I agree someone needs to independently test this claim.

[@DanTube2010]

@@ItsAllJustBollox Because BMW has to make the bike Euro 5 compliant, so tune the max out of the engine isn't possible, and hence why it is possible to get big gains on some big cc bikes just from a new map, e.g. H2, Hayabusa and presumably GS1300 as well.

[@williamrae9954]

All Suzuki K5 motor'd bike owners,just joined the conversation (only 130bhp off the showroom floor). 😂

[@ItsAllJustBollox]

@@DanTube2010 20bhp extra on a 145bhp twin cylinder bike from a remap is something that needs to be independently verified before taken as a valid claim. A full titanium race exhaust and remap only adds up to 10bhp on the Multistrada V4.

[@caledonianbiker]

Hi there l have that exact bike. You'll find my reviews on my Channel "Caledonian Biker". The Karoo 4 come standard on this bike a vg 50/50 tyre but the Dunlop Trailmax Raid is slightly better. Did the bike you had on loan have the higher sports suspension on it too? Can you tell me where the owner got the replacement exhaust hanger plz? Cheers Caledonian Biker thanks for a vg video.

[@gsd32i]

Hi. Yes I can confirm that the bike has the taller sports suspension. The owner of the bike uses it as a “tool “. Have a look at my latest shorts video on my channel to see what I mean . I will ask him regarding the exhaust hanger when I see him again. 👍

[@brucebrown6597]

I wouldn’t worry too much about dropping it. Looks like someone has already done it! Great videos!!

[@gsd32i]

A very impressive machine which is going to get a serious amount of abuse from its owner 👍

[@deverhoffe3457]

I just ordered the new r1250gs adventure ultimate edition. Did not like the looks of the new 1300 and the shiftcam is way too noisy on the new 1300. And i am certain my 1250 with the akra will sound waaaaaaay better than any 1300. I’m good, no thanks 🤘👌😝

[@gsd32i]

Love my 1250, especially with the Hilltop flash. Maybe if I was in my mid 20's but not when I am in my mid 50's. Lets see what the GSA looks like.

[@austinmatthews347]

i have no need for loads more power out of my gsa i have a speedtona 955 for that

[@london_biker6177]

"I'm not an off-roader" *blitzes the gravel track

[@gsd32i]

That was just for the camera....in a straight line....my mum could do that 😂

[@jjnewman65]

Nice mirrors. Where are they from?

[@gsd32i]

I believe that they are these ones: www.wunderlich.de/en/motogadget-mo.view-race-mirror-m36349-102

[@jjnewman65]

@@gsd32i thanks. expensive 💴

[@ParisPhotographer]

What are those side mirrors?

[@gsd32i]

Hi, to be honest I am not too sure. They will be either BMW Rallye ones or ones from Wunderlich as thats all the owner uses....oh and apologies for the late reply.

[@gnmurray5955]

I've read lots of negative comments about the Hilltop stuff, way too secretive and no actual dyno results. Have you seen any factual readings or is 165hp Hilltop's estimate?

[@gsd32i]

I think basically you make your own mind up. My backside on my 1250 definitely knows mine is better than a non topped 1250, in every way...thats all I can say tbh. HP is from the bikes owner. 👍

[@dungbeetle.]

Just a quick question, if I may. Is the re-flash a warranty killer?

[@gsd32i]

Nope. Apparently not.

[@peterfalconer-h3k]

@@gsd32i It would be interesting to see BMW's response if someone actually made a claim.

[@Bruttus4377]

Where in the uk is this filmed

[@gsd32i]

Hi, it’s filmed in Jersey, one of the Channel Islands. 👍

[@Bruttus4377]

@@gsd32i i need to go there

[@gsd32i]

@@Bruttus4377 👍

[@williamrae9954]

2 x Suzuki V-Strom 1050 DE's at current eBay prices, or one BMW GS...both do the same job,couldn't justify that amount of extra cash,£3500 VAT alone?

[@gsd32i]

Couldn’t agree more . At the end of the day if a Honda C90 brings a smile to your face then that’s all that matters . Enjoy the ride 😄

[@williamrae9954]

@@gsd32i *Ed March(C90 Adventures) approves this message ;)

[@benniewenniger2075]

Not a GS rider then

[@kayoedowner6711]

I think a small capacity bike would be far more fun on your island.

[@gsd32i]

Always nice to have the extra hp/cc for going off island 👍

[@samhill3496]

Looking forward to the RS and RT versions. And the ADV.

[@ericbeech2652]

What is the final weight?

[@gsd32i]

Hi, to be honest I am not sure. The owner has done a local hill climb recently on it , I think he narrowly missed the record up the hill. I guess he's made it even lighter now!

[@ericbeech2652]

@gsd32i I would love to know its potential in the weight category.

[@hoojamaflicks]

dude I was enjoying your video but that sudden burst of ultra loud music at 2:50 is not cool. way too loud for the rest of the video. think about peoples ears.

[@gsd32i]

Oops 👍

[@kugangles9860]

It doesn't make 165. That's about 20HP over of what it really makes. The KTM 1290 Super Adventure makes 165HP.

[@pajownik]

165 HP you say? At what rpm? 14K? It would rapidly disassemble WAY below that. This engine was built for torque not power. You want power, get KTM or Ducati.

[@gsd32i]

Sadly no idea! But it is pretty quick.👍 Not a chance with KTM as I had an 890R and that started to leak oil just out of warranty. Ducati....lovely but expensive.

[@pajownik]

@@gsd32i Sorry for your 890R troubles. No brand is perfect. You want piece of mind? Buy Japanese bike, built in Japan. Ducati is expensive, true. But isn't BMW too? Also, BMW is far from perfect in terms of reliability.

[@neilhutton1528]

You keep telling yourself that you still like your 1250. Who are you trying to convince???? I do love that Trophy version and that would be the 1300 choice for me. Oh and you wouldn't need to spend 22 grand as I sure Daren would give you a couple of grand for yours on a trade in 😉

[@gsd32i]

Yes I know I do. Quick question..Sena or Cardo? I have the Cardo Edge in my basket @ Sportsbikeshop at the moment ????????🙈

[@neilhutton1528]

Cardo. Excellent bit of kit 👍

[@gsd32i]

@@neilhutton1528 Ordered 👍

[@RaceBert]

How is selling a ecu flash for the 1300 already? Is there a dyno measurement online?

[@gsd32i]

See the description 👍

[@ADV_explorersgreekriders]

👌👌👍💪

[@terencetay4555]

It is only 145hp on the specs sheet

[@gsd32i]

Yes on the spec sheet. This has had the ecu flashed.

[@chrisva505]

Ah....Mr M lent you his bike....

[@gsd32i]

Possibly 🤪possibly not😂

[@TR850]

My wife actually took the money from her account and put the cash into our safe and told me to go to the KTM dealer and buy a new bike 1290 Super Adventure R), because she just could not stand listening to me talking about the specs any more. ❤And no, I cannot introduce you to my wife! 😂

[@gsd32i]

Top lady 👍

[@trailingarm63]

To me this bike is just a freak show. Still very heavy off-road compared to a single, and not very safe on it with those semi-tractor tyres. Why you're happy only being able to tip-toe it god only knows. Masochist? Might suit a privateer entry in the Paris-Dakar perhaps, but otherwise forget it. Good film nevertheless!

[@gsd32i]

Thanks. off roading isn't my thing tbh. bike was very quick, better with road tyres defo.there will be a huge market for the bike no doubt. 👍

[@trailingarm63]

@@gsd32i Yes, I agree with you, because people are in love with the dream rather than the reality. I have a road bike for touring, commuting, etc, and a 400 single for the dirt. I think the Adventure bike concept is a myth because everything is compromised. Each to their own!

[@spud139]

Good luck off road on those wheels....£20k bike and not standard with spoked wheels!!!

[@gsd32i]

Hopefully BMW suitably tested them off road.👍

[@adinovak2352]

They are forged wheels which you pay extra for, twice as expensive as the spoke wheels. BMW says they are as durable off road as the spoke ones.

[@davidkendall1614]

You can get it with cross spoked wheels, the forged wheels that BMW says are stronger (than the regular cast wheels) off road, or the road oriented cast wheels.

[@argirislykogiannis5188]

it does have 145 hp not 165! it's not a KTM!

[@BlannyOnTwoWheels]

It just doesnt do it for me, looks like a Chinese bike. Hopefully the adventure will be robust looking.

[@gsd32i]

Looks are certainly up for discussion I guess.

[@BlannyOnTwoWheels]

@gsd32i Certainly is.. I had a proper look during Bike Show at the NEC, the 1250 is still the absolute bees IMO obviously 😁

[@specialcircs]

love a bit of casual racism in the morning....ffs

[@BlannyOnTwoWheels]

@@specialcircs Casual racism to say it looks like a cheap Chinese CF Moto? Okay...

[@wl660]

@@specialcircsracism is a badge of honour, it’s so casually thrown about these days.

[@markshirley7639]

165hp !!! 😂🤣 noooooo

[@gsd32i]

Yesssssssssss

[@markshirley7639]

@@gsd32i no not 165 hp try 145 hp . You wish it was 165 😂

[@gsd32i]

@@markshirley7639 😂

[@TheDervMan]

Great bike but it's sooooo ugly :-(