BMW R1300GS | Real World First Ride

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@sweebeyh4327
@sweebeyh4327 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for actually showing us this brand new bike and not just riding off and just talking about something we never actually see like so many other vloggers. Great vid, thanks. 👍
@tomcooney183
@tomcooney183 Жыл бұрын
Heartily agree, frustrating when theyre telling you about a bike and you dont even know what it looks like
@TommieTrumper-TFC1200
@TommieTrumper-TFC1200 Жыл бұрын
The real joy of listening to you Chris, is that you tell us how the bike makes you feel, which is the real reason we ride, thanks bud excellent vid!
@benmitchell2072
@benmitchell2072 Жыл бұрын
All you other 1300 GS you tube reviewers out there who attended the launch in Spain.... pay attention. This is how you do a review. An opinion from someone who knows what they are talking about. Try it sometime. Thanks Chris.
@Motovlog865
@Motovlog865 Жыл бұрын
BMW: Builds a comfy and utilitarian adv bike and outsells everyone for 43 years Ducati and KTM: Let's make sporty adv bikes with more hp and lackluster sales BMW: Let's copy those guys
@hkeg80
@hkeg80 Жыл бұрын
I do find the headlight hideous, but I could live with that, my main gripe is that they've lost the blocky aggressive look, it somehow looks more Italian, which I guess is a plus to some people but I find it more boring.
@mrcru53
@mrcru53 Жыл бұрын
I hope you guys understand how much joy you give people around the world with your talent. All of our shitty, boring lives are improved by your pommy humour (and boothy) and real-talk opinions. ❤
@parko1965
@parko1965 Жыл бұрын
"Our shitty lives", whoa hang on pal, you speak for yourself son.
@gingerelvis
@gingerelvis Жыл бұрын
Great no bollocks first ride! No getting bogged down in stats just the things you can actually feel. I don't typically care for the GS or much for modern "adventure" bike generally, they're usually a weird halfway house between a tourer and properly capable off road bike to me. This is the most interesting GS in a long time, it looks good, it's much more road focused where almost all of them are used and less bulky. Corduroy trousers now optional.
@belly450
@belly450 Жыл бұрын
Have they lost the anti nod feature that stops GS riders saying hello to other bikers 😂
@zyoungson215
@zyoungson215 Жыл бұрын
Just like the 'anti indicator' feature on BMW cars? I wouldn't think so, its part of the brand.
@ianjames3078
@ianjames3078 Жыл бұрын
Does that feature not transfer to second owners? Bought mine used and the nod is definitely there.
@bjrnchrstn
@bjrnchrstn Жыл бұрын
Thing is that the boxer engine trembles so much that you don't see the nod 😅
@steveross2280
@steveross2280 Жыл бұрын
Yes!! But it’s an option on the configurator! Kinda hard to find, tho
@awakeadventurer9198
@awakeadventurer9198 Жыл бұрын
I dont know where you guys live, but im in Southern California and have had GSs since 2015, always wave and most others wave back on any bikes. Only scooter riders dont and i think thats because they're not expecting it or are afraid to let a hand off the bars. Lol
@BIGGGESTAL
@BIGGGESTAL Жыл бұрын
I agree about the indicators and brake lights. It is absolutely rubbish and almost invisible
@nicks2908
@nicks2908 Жыл бұрын
I really don't understand what the complaint is about. If you are breaking and indicating then it's not so clear? Well first I don't think I agree but then I think, well what does it matter, anyone behind sees you are breaking and has to slow down, it doesn't really matter that your turning off and the indicator isn't the headline show, the important bit is the slowing
@LEEGOOVER9901
@LEEGOOVER9901 Жыл бұрын
​@@nicks2908how about car centric country?
@Tiz147
@Tiz147 Жыл бұрын
Indicators have never been BMWs strong point.
@nicks2908
@nicks2908 Жыл бұрын
@@Tiz147 😂
@benkelly2190
@benkelly2190 Жыл бұрын
@@nicks2908a lot of people do have a problem, I’m not convinced, its good enough. Brake lights in, indicators, is a bad idea, the previous system was far, far better. The indicators were very bright, to.
@xcelmaster4779
@xcelmaster4779 Жыл бұрын
Recently purchased a 20 year old SV650 for track days. Started using it on the road as well. Greatest fun bike I’ve ever owned. Cost €1500.
@awakeadventurer9198
@awakeadventurer9198 Жыл бұрын
Ive heard many track riders put gixxer front ends on those and thats its awesome. Enjoy
@bikeserv
@bikeserv Жыл бұрын
I am building one .Andreani cartridge,donor serviced shock and ferodo xrac pads.and Chinese rearsets
@ThaKillaInstinctHD
@ThaKillaInstinctHD Жыл бұрын
I’ve had a shit day today, watching this made it a lot better. Thanks guys
@bloophero
@bloophero Жыл бұрын
I initially read this as "I've had a shit today, watching this made it a lot better". Which completely matches my situation... However, that's not what you said. Thanks guys!
@gretchensghost
@gretchensghost Жыл бұрын
@@bloophero I too thought he was commenting that having defecated, he needed a pick me up and one arrived in the shape of this video.
@bjrnchrstn
@bjrnchrstn Жыл бұрын
Interesting... I had to shit and watching this made it a lot easier. My god tgat thing is ugly. It's almost like bmw does it deliberately.
@henryvaneyk3769
@henryvaneyk3769 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I think the Triumph 1200 would make a better tourer now that the Beemer has gone stiffer. And it looks nicer in my opinion.
@Crsf84
@Crsf84 Жыл бұрын
That’s quite subjective, I had a test of a 1200 this week and the buttons/dash is awful compared to others especially the bm. Yes it’s lighter but in my opinion not as good at the gs 1250 anyway
@ttrguy9952
@ttrguy9952 Жыл бұрын
@@Crsf84 I love the dash on my 2023 Tiger GT Explorer. The switch gear is flawless and is backlit unlike the BMW.
@hartley383
@hartley383 Жыл бұрын
I think I may agree, My GS is out of warranty in May, not sure the new one is going to tick the boxes for me. Could well be the Tiger 1200 next or grab a 1250 GSA before they replace it.
@nscott26
@nscott26 Жыл бұрын
I have 14,000 miles on my 23' Tiger GT Explorer, I rode the 1250gsa and the 1250gs for the first time and here are my opinions. The comfort on the tiger is better, having separate buttons for heated grips and heated seats and backlit switches the tiger is better. The quick shifter on the tiger is way better, it's so smooth. The electronic suspension on the tiger is better and more plush, being able to adjust the suspension from lazy boy recliner to feeling every crack in the road is nice. Higher rpm's is more fun on tiger. Wind protection is a little better on the tiger. Did not like the gsa with standard non electronic suspension, didn't like the handling or the ride quality, fuel tank spread legs to wide. Tried the gs with electronic suspension and these opinions below are from that ride. The BMW corners and handles twisty roads better. The lack of front end dive on the BMW felt odd/different but would say that's better. The BMW has better low to midrange power, the torque pull is insane. The tft display and menu layout is better on the BMW. Fuel economy is better on the BMW. The engine is less viby on the BMW. Quick shifter sucks, is really clunky and jerky on BMW. The electronic suspension felt stiff/harsh/clunky rear suspension in dynamic, didn't feel very plush in road mode.
@Guinnessisgoodforyou
@Guinnessisgoodforyou Жыл бұрын
Triumph fuc*ed the 1200 and 900 when they changed the firing order, sounds crap now.😢
@awakeadventurer9198
@awakeadventurer9198 Жыл бұрын
My first GS was a '15 R1200GSA. Amazing bike. I armored it up and used it as a true ADV bike with groups twice a month for two years. Hundreds of miles each day. It was an absolute blast and a near bulletproof tank. I couldn't be more impressed on and off road. You can beat the heck out of it off road and then ride a 100+ miles home in Cadillac comfort and still flick it around to keep it fun and keep me awake. I've had a '21 R1250GS now for two years. Just a beautiful machine. Relating to this new '24 GS, I am disappointed to hear it is so stiff. That would be a deal breaker for me. It may bounce a tad in its cushy suspension, but my '21 suspension is awesome all around. Its very comfortable on the highway n streets and it kicks ass in the twisties. Its very stable despite how hard i push it. It's just incredibly versatile and never disappoints. The new stiffer GS will mean more fatigue and less fun comfortable miles. They will lose sales on this for sure. If they think they're going to pull in a bunch of younger riders because it's stiff and super Torquey, unfortunately that's not really enough for the younger riders because they want things that look like sport bikes. Its definitely sportier looking, but i would assume the GS's sales success is built on mature riders who can afford them. I like the looks, the spunky torque and the power screen(even though i rarely put mine down), but i will stick with pre-24 models until the suspension is worked out. Ive only got 12k miles on mine so im good for quite a while.
@JoeS97756
@JoeS97756 Жыл бұрын
I hear you. This review has me considering a '23 1250 instead. I bought a Multistrada in 2013 and sold it a month later it was so stiff. Bought a '13 1200 LC which is what I should have bought instead of the Multistrada. I don't want to make that mistake again. Perhaps for 2025 they will have realized their mistake and revise the suspension.
@jasondunn8894
@jasondunn8894 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a practical initial review Chris. From what I’ve seen the bike actually looks lighter and more streamlined. Looks like it’s been on keto and got to the gym which I like as they have seemed to be getting bigger and bulkier for previous models 👍
@laurieh
@laurieh Жыл бұрын
As a BMW tech...there are some things that annoy me about this bike. 1- Dash is exactly the same as 1250 2- plastic lever adjusters are flimsy and will break 3- Lots of customer complaints about swingarm/engine corrosion/easy scratched...BMW decided to basically blast raptor paint over everything. 4- Now use cheapo paper oil filters inside engine instead of spin on metal ones. It works but...going on the cost cutting theme. 5- Footpeg clips constantly falling off is maybe sorted...maybe not??? 6- An "adventure" bike that will enjoy falling on its side alot will smash the expensive LED indicators in the hand guards...a lot. 7- Centre stand flippy up extra help extender is stupid Im sure as time goes on I will like the 1250 more 😅
@davidgreenop9978
@davidgreenop9978 Жыл бұрын
Centre stand lever pivot won't last long with salty roads.
@jesuschrist7169
@jesuschrist7169 Жыл бұрын
Good luck becoming a real mechanic and not just a tech
@laurieh
@laurieh Жыл бұрын
@@jesuschrist7169 Good luck being a smart arse....was working on old carbed bikes being a "mechanic" already for years.
@Faranos007
@Faranos007 Жыл бұрын
2016 you went on your alps trip. You, YOU, got me addicted to the GS adv. Late 2017 i got a 2018 GS triple black. Now 2023, You dirty bastard tempting me, appealing to my deepest desires, with that sultry voice. I want one sooo bad. Good work Chris, really you do great work. Keep it up and keep doing what you love. We all enjoy your work and journey. Cheers.
@greg4318
@greg4318 Жыл бұрын
I always piss myself laughing at the size of the number plates in the UK - the look like something out of the 1920’s 😂
@StuHNomadBiker
@StuHNomadBiker Жыл бұрын
The DNA of the GS has always been a magic carpet of a ride, a tourer that defies physics and just seemed to handle impeccably. Im on my 4th GSA currently, a 1250 .. and its pretty much perfection, just the right level of performance with the classic GSA waftability! Hoping the Adventure is going to be something slightly different again ( heard rumours that it might be a 1400 🤔 ) so maybe theyve got something to surprise us with, in the near future for me though .. ill be sticking with what ive got
@jesuschrist7169
@jesuschrist7169 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 perfection 😂😂😂😂
@ozzyg82
@ozzyg82 Жыл бұрын
“I believe this shaft is a little bit longer”. My new pillow talk line if ever I heard one.
@iainamurray
@iainamurray Жыл бұрын
I can’t get past thinking about the great big chunky head.
@Inspire196
@Inspire196 Жыл бұрын
Given you only dropped this off at Vines yesterday morning (I was there!), well done for getting this video out so quickly - and for the ace quality! Thanks
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that Chris - so refreshing to see a real world review of this type, really looking forward to trying one myself when all the fuss has died down a bit…thumbs up from me for your review 👍
@Jaffa1951
@Jaffa1951 Жыл бұрын
Have you watched Chops' review yet?
@glsracer
@glsracer Жыл бұрын
As an RT owner, this GS looks amazing and seems way more powerful and smooth running than my older Oilhead. Engine refinement and fueling seems pretty close to what you would find on a Honda which is really nice to see.
@iliaskhottour3886
@iliaskhottour3886 Жыл бұрын
You're kidding right when you say that the looks are amazing? This is the first GS ever I believe is the most hidious I have ever seen! I was a bit hesitating but the tiger 1200 series is the obvious choice.
@glsracer
@glsracer Жыл бұрын
@@iliaskhottour3886 I'm dead serious. I readily admit that I may not be the typical GS buyer since I'm 40 and have a history of buying sport bikes (before my RT anyway). I do think it looks great and the improved power and refinement will no doubt attract a new demographic of buyer.
@awakeadventurer9198
@awakeadventurer9198 Жыл бұрын
Im 51 and am on my second GS since 2015. All sport bikes before that. Loved the look, the sound, the power and agility of sport bikes. I did track days often and road hundreds of miles every weekend in the mountains n deserts. Was totally in love but couldn't ride long in that position due to longtime work related inflammation etc. In 2015 i was up on ACH(a twistie mountain road in southern California) with an older friend(killer rider). Jamie casually asked if i wanted to try out his R1200GS. It was probably a '14. At that moment i was on my last sport bike('13 ZX-14R), though i didnt know it. I thought GSs were weird looking etc. He smiled n chuckled as i got on his bike. He had turned many riders onto GSs. It only took a few minutes to realize how nice the GS was. Plenty of linear power, turned awesome, and comfortable too! What a concept. I also rode his buddy's R1200GSA that had a full titanium exhaust and tune etc. That was like a fast agile Cadillac i thought. I was totally sold. 3 weeks later i traded in my Ninja for a matt racing blue R1200GSA. Badass looking and lived up to that appearance on and off road. Everyday on my way home, especially from adv rides, i was blown away how awesome it was. Same today with my '21. BMW definitely hooked me, thanks to Jamie. Not to mention: great brakes, heated grips w multiple levels, adjustable windscreen, and now a heated seat and a separate outlet for my heated jacket liner for long winter rides. And on my 21 i bought the hard Vario(expandable) cases. Though i dont like how the side cases open on the side, overall it was some of the best money I've ever spent! I hate wearing backpacks or using small tail bags. Its so nice to have plenty of storage!!
@glsracer
@glsracer Жыл бұрын
@@awakeadventurer9198 that's a great story. I have a 2002 R1150RT. I got it with about 58k miles on it for a really great price which was great since I was looking for a fixer bike. It ran really bad when I got it and had to replace replace the RH throttle body and the O2 sensor right away. I also did the valve job and added an AF-XIED when I replaced the O2 sensor. Not to mention several TB synchronizations and adjustment of the TPS to set 0.32 degrees while at idle. It's running pretty good now but the vibration from the older 1150 engine takes some getting used to coming from smoother Japanese bikes. Part of that vibration may be from the very worn clutch splines that I will address soon. I like that the newer bikes have balance shafts and computer controlled throttle bodies. I'm going to give my vintage RT a chance but I wouldn't be surprised if I started looking at a new R1300GS or RT at some point in the future.
@miglioverde303
@miglioverde303 Жыл бұрын
​@@awakeadventurer9198👍👌
@johnclayton6158
@johnclayton6158 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review! That windshield thing looks like Bullwinkle's antlers but I'm sure that after a few hundred miles of ownership they wouldn't be noticed.
@iainamurray
@iainamurray Жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris. Nice review. Maybe I’ll get one second hand in 10 years.
@IanTed
@IanTed Жыл бұрын
As a short arse and now 60+ I moved to Ducati after three GSs, got sick of the height and weight but loved their real world performance and comfort. I’m seriously tempted back with the auto height option and in the Triple Black scheme but amazed that the engine is still so ‘clicky’. I think the GSA version will suit you ‘tall’ boys, I found the GSA 1250 too much for me…bloody comfortable though.
@InterimExec
@InterimExec Жыл бұрын
the automatic Height adjustment may indeed be the solution for ALL ADV tall bikes. Pretty Citroen...esque. Lower at stop higher at speed and when needed. They had that on their 1960 cars...along with movable headlights....Merveilleux
@IanTed
@IanTed Жыл бұрын
@@InterimExec I had a Citroen🤣👍
@InterimExec
@InterimExec Жыл бұрын
Wish i could afford a good DS. Still an amazing car today.@@IanTed
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 Жыл бұрын
The starry-eyed, beaky front withers me but the electric window is simply divine.
@brisprott2451
@brisprott2451 Жыл бұрын
Great level fair review. Given BMW know their current GS customers will not be customers in 20 years, and given the time between model changes, then they had to make a move to get the younger riders interested in their most important model. I like the look but will sticj with my Adventure for touring two up
@doolar
@doolar Жыл бұрын
Thank you, a proper review, not an extended ad.
@KTM-1090
@KTM-1090 Жыл бұрын
On its own I think this is probably going to be a great bike…but…the old GS had its place in the market as a comfortable tourer that could do anything - especially going long distances in comfort which really, the competition couldn’t compete with. This new edition will just be eaten up by the V4s of this world. I rode the 1250 recently for the first time and it’s a seriously great bike. I know change is good but they’d pretty much hit on perfection for what they were trying to achieve. Nowhere else to go with it.
@stephennewell6628
@stephennewell6628 Жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head, you see a 1250 and you think “ok it’s the GS, and it’s perfect” you see this and you think “ok it’s a motorbike like all the others” meh.
@diacono5221
@diacono5221 Жыл бұрын
What a strange comment. All bike models are either updated or deleted from the model range. By V4 I'm assuming that you are referring to the Multistrada? If so, it's a totally different bike, which costs more, and has a shorter range. Have you ridden the 1300 yet? I haven't, and will therefore reserve judgement until I have.
@KTM-1090
@KTM-1090 Жыл бұрын
@@diacono5221 I don’t need to ride it to see they’ve sacrificed comfort and wind protection for less weight and more power 🤷‍♂️ Obviously the V4 is a different bike but the point I was making is they’re all aimed at the same type of people looking for power and the 1250gs has always been a bike with its own section of the market pretty much tied up. It looks from initial impressions and from watching Chris’s video that they’re deviating slightly from their winning formula. Not sure why you think that’s strange.
@getty6974
@getty6974 11 ай бұрын
Actually the main thing with r1300gs is that it has an actual motorcycle transmission for the first time ever. Also transmission is positiones to the bottom of engine casing now. So even lower weight distribution. That on top of it allready being lighter. Time will show but on paper this is superior to r1250gs in every way. Oh yeah and addition of adaptive cruise is massive for tourers.
@suppersready4you
@suppersready4you Жыл бұрын
I owned 7 GSs from 100 to 1250 and never found washing them difficult at all...well maybe it's just me😉 Great video Thanks for taking the time to review it👍
@ManxAndy
@ManxAndy Жыл бұрын
Love you’re vlogs….it’s like I’m riding pillion …with my dad, 👍👌🇮🇲😜
@FortyFourTeeth
@FortyFourTeeth Жыл бұрын
Dad haha
@ManxAndy
@ManxAndy Жыл бұрын
@@FortyFourTeeth well, I’m 25 in my head, but 54 when I’m flexing….at 3.30am looking for the pull switch in the bathroom…😂👍🇮🇲
@MacKenzie001
@MacKenzie001 Жыл бұрын
​ @FortyFourTeeth Hammer down pops!! Do a wheelie!
@Crsf84
@Crsf84 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Scouse.Malinois
@Scouse.Malinois Жыл бұрын
Owh daddy😂
@ejdtm
@ejdtm Жыл бұрын
You mentioned all you can hear is the time chains and top end of a GS. I took one for a test drive thinking I was gonna buy one and I just can’t get over the tinny sound of the bike. I ended up with the Multistrada Enduro for a couple years.
@frankspeakmore7104
@frankspeakmore7104 Жыл бұрын
The scenario : Passo Giau Dolomites, warm summer afternoon, clear blue skies, quiet roads. Cafe at the top is buzzing with Italian ladies. The question: Which bike would give the most satisfaction on that trip and be the most memorable? BMW GS 1300 (fully specd) or Ducati 916 SPS which you've sorted yourself?
@Fishonamotobike
@Fishonamotobike Жыл бұрын
The thing I love about your reviews is you are on roads I know which means I can relate to all your comments.
@luthorkhan5551
@luthorkhan5551 Жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks Chris, but I retain only two details - the persian taxi drivers phone case and that humongous travelling family top box on that thing.
@chrisoates49
@chrisoates49 Жыл бұрын
@baronvongrumble having ridden the multi V4 rally on the riders digest. I know ur a bit of a GS fan boy, if you were to replace ur 1250, would you get the new 1300 or go for the rally?… cheers Chris
@hangpilot1200
@hangpilot1200 8 ай бұрын
It looks much better in person! Not sure why? The metallic green & gold... excellent! Bought one this evening🤣
@clashcityrocker2051
@clashcityrocker2051 7 ай бұрын
Hi Chris, great review. Deffo in the top 10 GS reviews I have read this lunchtime…. You guys!!😘
@DmagAdv
@DmagAdv Жыл бұрын
I’m a 1250GS owner and thanks for the “real world” review. It’s what I’ve been waiting for. Guess BMW has decided to sacrifice their loyal followers by being more of a “renegade” bike and market to the Ducati and KTM riders. Guess I’ll keep my 1250 afterall.
@charliestoybox2099
@charliestoybox2099 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Progress isn’t always a step forward. I guess the 1250 GSA is the last of the great GS’s. I’d rather replace my GSA with a Ducati Pikes Peak than the new GS.
@adamc209
@adamc209 Жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff Chris, still to be convinced on those looks and the digger sounds, luckily I can’t afford one and will hold on to my 1200 GSA
@marcusrichardson3472
@marcusrichardson3472 Жыл бұрын
I think this bike is a real step on and looks great. The price is the only gripe but they’ve all got so expensive. I tested a multistrada v4s in the summer then found it would be £24k with luggage. While the multi was phenomenal I’d take this one but in a couple of years when they’ve got rid of any new-bike niggles. Great review, very pleased I watched this one first. And I can’t now hear the word ‘cockpit’ again without sniggering
@ilmostro16
@ilmostro16 Жыл бұрын
Great review as usual. GS’s are great adventure bikes. But to have more “renegade fun” when touring, get the new Multistrada V4. Yeah I’m a Ducati fanboy, but I’ve ridden GS’s…. There’s no contest when it comes to sport riding between a GS and a Multi. It’s like comparing a tractor to a sportbike.
@marktaylor4602
@marktaylor4602 Жыл бұрын
Interesting insight from your first outing on the GS. I am really excited by all the positive points that you have highlighted in the video, but personally will be waiting to see what the GSA offers. My major concern is the price point. When I priced up the new GS, with all the nice to have options and luggage it was touching on £25k. That doesn’t bode well for what the GSA is likely to cost to match my triple black GSA……likely to be well north of £25k, which would be prohibitive for most. Time will tell. Keep up the great work !!
@paulharrison8155
@paulharrison8155 Жыл бұрын
The best review of the R1300 GS I've seen so far
@legolator
@legolator Жыл бұрын
Having the indicators built into the hand guards like that make it scream "please sir, take me off-road!" :D
@specialcircs
@specialcircs Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the real world review, much better to see how it'll actually be used by most people.
@20spag
@20spag Жыл бұрын
Excellent first impressions video.Considered comments from a guy who REALLY knows the GS series.Looking forward to the next installment.
@nick1bb1
@nick1bb1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review, a pity really because i like the looks but its not for me - I sold my 1250 as my legs were too cramped and the 1300 sounds like its even more so. Quick question does the engine sound as mechanically noisy as the 1250 engine?
@rustincrawford3587
@rustincrawford3587 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video. You shared a few details that I've missed after watching many other videos from launch, to walkarounds, and first rides. Mainly, that you can hold down the selector switch button (up/down) to switch to the next control (ACC, Heating, etc). That was something I didn't love about having to switch via the menu. But thinking of it as a preset favorite the can be long-pressed to switch is manageable to me. Not as great as dedicated buttons, but probably something you'll eventually get used to and prefer. Agree, backlit buttons would be ideal.
@BorisKarloff66
@BorisKarloff66 Жыл бұрын
I have never liked the looks of a GS but I have to admit this one looks great especially in the green.
@max-cs4pz
@max-cs4pz Жыл бұрын
I wanted to say exactly this….. the green and gold makes this spaceship look kinda cool
@alexbarnett8085
@alexbarnett8085 Жыл бұрын
When / if are they planning on releasing the GS Adventure model? Love the review, been waiting to hear your thoughts on it‼️💯
@sambagogo777
@sambagogo777 Жыл бұрын
I suspect that the R1300GS Adventure will be more in line with what some existing GS owners were hoping for. That bike will likely be more of a comfortable long distance tourer.
@davidsandilands1285
@davidsandilands1285 Жыл бұрын
Good review, not a GS fan bit has to be a consideration now. I agreed it’s going to be a big success for BMW
@briankalagher6687
@briankalagher6687 Жыл бұрын
Cool bike. Love everything you guys do on youtube! Thanks! I think I'll go out for a ride now.
@BishBosh2010
@BishBosh2010 Жыл бұрын
Chocolate Star headlight. There will ship loads of them next summer on the X channel ferries.
@mdragon99
@mdragon99 Жыл бұрын
@44Teeth. It's a pretty bike now but do you think the new GS can handle the occasional campground drop without having to be all armored up with 300 lbs of tubing and sheet metal?
@ryanmalone2681
@ryanmalone2681 Жыл бұрын
Nope
@ryanmalone2681
@ryanmalone2681 Жыл бұрын
I ride an R1250 GSA and was looking at potentially buying a GS. What I dislike: 1. I love the space on the GSA and the big rider triangle. The downsizing is concerning to me for big miles. 2. The lack of backlit controls is ridiculous. 3. It’s not really lighter when you look at the weight savings. The only ‘real’ weight savings in the 6 kg of the transmission. 4. No new dash. I was hoping for a bigger screen. What I like: 1. Stiffer suspension 2. Easier to clean (I ride in a lot of mud and dust) 3. Looks 4. Electric windscreen Overall, it’s quite a disappointment with so few improvements and I won’t be purchasing one. We’ll see what the M1400 offers, but I’m not holding my breath.
@oguztemel1978
@oguztemel1978 11 ай бұрын
Me, a normal guy tested this motorcycle. Yes, it's gadget whise better and more nimble. The character of it is like a supermotard with off road tyres, which I personally don't like. I still prefer the pervious GS models and am curious how the new GSA model will end up.
@wretchedrider2157
@wretchedrider2157 Жыл бұрын
As a fellow biggun... has it lost its appeal as a big boy friendly bike? You said it's a bit sportier and has the auto suspension adjustments to help the shortys... so no more huge beast bike like previous GSAs?
@mimounazdad9195
@mimounazdad9195 Жыл бұрын
There is some kind of dongle for all the bmw’s with that stupid rear brake light. It turns the brake light off on the side you are indicating
@eriklindhardsenact7596
@eriklindhardsenact7596 Жыл бұрын
Denali lights would help with the back lights
@Justwanthavefun_100
@Justwanthavefun_100 Жыл бұрын
Next generation GS1300 might have updated LED screen and illuminated buttons on.
@RK01
@RK01 Жыл бұрын
Great video, new GS looks great, looking forward to the new GSA next year.
@KasperCDK
@KasperCDK Жыл бұрын
Thanks for review. If I had the money I would still go for the "old" GS1250.
@MOTOUK1
@MOTOUK1 Жыл бұрын
Great to get your thoughts on this bike Chris, always value your opinion. My biggest thought is would this be as comfy on the long Europe tours as the older model? Maybe the Adventure when it comes will be slightly different. Question as i see the electronic locking luggage connection, can you fit say Givi boxes which i prefer over the factory plastic looking boxes.
@convoiexceptionnels
@convoiexceptionnels Жыл бұрын
Not sure if I'm a massive fan of the adaptive cruise control.
@iainamurray
@iainamurray Жыл бұрын
Don’t use it then
@khakimzhanmiras
@khakimzhanmiras Жыл бұрын
pretty much useless.
@paulyflyer8154
@paulyflyer8154 Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough I tried the Yamaha Tracer GT+ last week whilst waiting for my GS to be serviced. I can't speak for beemer, but the Tracer's adaptive cruise control really was amazing. Its one of those things that once you've had it for a couple of months, you'd REALLY miss it. I don't like the new GS though I must admit. I'm on my 6th now with my 1250 and every new incarnation I've had over 25 years, has been a huge improvement over the last, and I appreciated them immediately, but I think this could hit the buffers this time for me. It seems to have dropped down a class which is swimming in excellent Japanese alternatives.
@benschofield7565
@benschofield7565 Жыл бұрын
No doubt a lot of people have said the same about regular cruise control......those people probably won't even consider bikes without it now.
@paulyflyer8154
@paulyflyer8154 Жыл бұрын
@@benschofield7565 I remember my dad scoffing when power steering started appearing on cars.
@ianchambers2731
@ianchambers2731 Жыл бұрын
So I’m not the only customer who’s stopped using Bahnstormer! 😮 Will be interesting to see what the Adventure version is like….I’m a version behind because I’m a cheapskate - just upgraded my 1200 GSA to a 1250, so will have a look in a few years time. The other thing they haven’t changed is the mirror design - still fitting the Piaggio Pizza Ped mirrors!
@kingGar27
@kingGar27 Жыл бұрын
Would you choose it over a Multistrada? It sounds like BMW are trying to compete more with the Ducati in terms of sportiness (higher power, lower weight, stiffer) and accessibility (lower seating position). But does that isolate loyal GS owners?
@flatcapcaferacer
@flatcapcaferacer Жыл бұрын
A little surprised and pleased a multiple GS owner didn’t shower this bike with over the top praises. I'm thinking this bike will split current GS owners just like the major change on the Goldwing did. I'm not sure going more sporty will make it competitive with either the Ducati or KTM but it might the older models more popular. I'm just wonder how many current GS will buy the new one more on faith but later regret their purchase.
@irisgardener4141
@irisgardener4141 Жыл бұрын
I sound like an old cynic but every part on that looks like it would be incredibly expensive to replace. That radar, for instance, is super vulnerable. My "older" GS has a headlight guard so the antithesis of this bling. The appeal of the GS brand is its ruggedness. It's not supposed to be trick and spotless.
@Neutronb0mb
@Neutronb0mb Жыл бұрын
That review was very reminiscent of a Baron V G blog. Great stuff
@johanstrampraat1684
@johanstrampraat1684 Жыл бұрын
Finally, best revue till now! Well done. And i think its a good bike to travel Europe 👍🏻
@ydarbg
@ydarbg Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris.. great review. Think I'll wait in hipe for the GSA as the whole small person direction isn't a good thing. I'd say the end of next year will bring lightly up switch gear and a big boy bike 😊
@svenhollis-lifts
@svenhollis-lifts Жыл бұрын
As a 22MY 1250gsa owner, I concur the trellis frame/the whole bike for that matter requires some time to get really clean, maybe I’m just pedantic 😅 I’ve never heard of the cylinder heads being an issue with corrosion? Is this really a manufacturing complaint? I’m in Sydney so maybe that makes a difference 🤷🏼‍♂️ Thanks for this content Baron, I’m only 18 months into ownership of mine so not looking anytime soon but can’t wait for the adventure version being reviewed 👍🏻
@brianbiker
@brianbiker Жыл бұрын
Nice review; I tried one today. Didn’t seem that firm, but I haven’t had five GSes! (I did own an old 1100 GS a while ago and that was a floppy old thing but handled surprisingly well). Engine is astonishing, torque everywhere and is deceptively quick through the gears. Agree about the quick shifter, it’s fairly ‘notchy’ up, smooth as butter down. I’m very tempted to trade my nineT for one.
@Bdon06
@Bdon06 Жыл бұрын
1st thing notice about the color, its Springboks World Rugby Champs color, hope they have it in SA soon!
@Ade.M
@Ade.M Жыл бұрын
Aside the crunch, is the gearbox an improvement over the old agricultural GS gearbox?
@simonbowen6653
@simonbowen6653 Жыл бұрын
Looks as though BMW are also after the Multistrada market as well but its not a patch on the looks of the Ducati. The beak, X headlight and radar are ugly but no doubt they'll sell in bucket loads.
@charliestoybox2099
@charliestoybox2099 Жыл бұрын
Good review thanks. For what the GSA 1250 is, the the new bike can’t beat it. For what this new GS is, Ducati Multistrada is the better choice. Just the opinion of someone who enjoys both brands.
@alexmorgan3435
@alexmorgan3435 Жыл бұрын
Not really a GS fan, but can't think of anyone better to review this new version with your extensive experience of them. How close to an S1000XR is it? I know the engine is different, but there must be some over lap in other areas such as the chassis, suspension and ride giving a lot stiffer sportier ride? Loving the colour scheme of this one dark green and gold wheels and bars. Not having illuminated back lit switch is a big fail on a premium bike imho. Triumphs and KTM have it. Don't know whether the Ducati Multistrada or others have it?
@Win7ermu7e
@Win7ermu7e Жыл бұрын
That bit with the handle bar and phone compartment is hilarious. You would think ze chermans would have engineered that out.
@teamgas
@teamgas Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to hear your opinion!! 😊
@teamgas
@teamgas Жыл бұрын
Do you think the updated front end suspension gives a better connection to the front wheel?
@chrisoz4929
@chrisoz4929 Жыл бұрын
The knee, leg, ankle angle is the most important thing for me. As a big bloke with bad knees, any tighter than the current GS and I am very uncomfortable. Let’s see what the GSA brings. I do like the extra wind deflectors and the extension to the rear mudguard to stop your shock and right leg getting wet. One other thing, I haven’t seen one review or walk around that has engine protection bars fitted - is that not an option now?
@GeorgiaGrowGuy
@GeorgiaGrowGuy Жыл бұрын
That's a good-looking bike without all the luggage. It sounds like a broken-down diesel taxi in Cairo.
@georgiosm.1628
@georgiosm.1628 Жыл бұрын
Weight without fuel is measured in 247 kg for 1300 gs option 719 in real world, not papers. I agree on the integrated stop lights, and I also expected illuminated switches
@theonlyredspecial
@theonlyredspecial Жыл бұрын
ii liked the honesty in this one. most of the rest of the videos ive watched are just waxing lyrical about everything. like how you pointed out things like the suspension and firmness.
@popanimation1
@popanimation1 Жыл бұрын
I’m commentating as if I’m not a peasant but first with cosmetics, I like everything except the light, and second, I am fairly impressed how spicy the new engine is and feel it is a good contender to the current state of adventure touring motorcycles.
@BishBosh2010
@BishBosh2010 Жыл бұрын
"Sheet metal frame" AKA honda C50 & Yamaha FS1E😂. Great test Chris, picking up on points other no one has mentioned! When are you testing the new 900GS?
@LookingForward2Yesterday
@LookingForward2Yesterday Жыл бұрын
I love your reviews and travelvlogs Chris and your outlook on life in general, always very honest…and hilarious 😂. I’ve been trawling through all the vlogs and reviews on the R1300GS to try and find one that says it is absolutely perfect in absolutely every way, because I’ve put a deposit down on one and need confirmation that I’ve made the right decision! Truth is, there isn’t a review that says it’s perfect in absolutely every way. That’s because everyone is different and we all have very different needs. I’ve gone through this process with every bike I’ve owned and at the end of the day adapted to and loved every bike I’ve owned. On a personal note, I’ve owned almost every BMW model except the GS. Currently I own an RT (absolutely brilliant but too bulky..for me), I’ve owned an R (not enough weather protection) an RS (too sporty…riding position wise) and a long time ago a GSA (too tall for me) and a K1600 (too heavy and more HP than I’ll ever need). So I am trading the RT to try and achieve my motorbike nirvana…a great all rounder (as I only want, for cost and space reasons, to own one bike). I’m hoping to tour 2 or 3 times a year, with a pillion from time to time (my wife, so it needs to be ‘almost’ as comfortable as the RT), ride solo and unladen on the back roads and twisties (so it needs to be light and handle spiritedly, like the R and RS). Finally it needs to look awesome! Vanity eh! But it matters to me…I want to come back from every fuel and coffee stop and think wow! I want to go into my garage because I’ve got a great looking bike in there! For me, this new GS ‘winked’ at me as soon as I saw the press release. It also ticks all my boxes and I’ll adapt to any it doesn’t, I always have done. This just might be the ‘just right’ Goldilocks BMW! (for me, anyway😊)
@BaronVonGrumble
@BaronVonGrumble Жыл бұрын
You'll love it 👍
@stevedriver1376
@stevedriver1376 Жыл бұрын
Such a great marketing trick by BMW to keep increasing engine size in these tiny increments.
@chalkphil
@chalkphil Жыл бұрын
Good, real-world review. Pleased you acknowledged the fact that 99.9% of buyers will use these bikes exclusively on the tarmac. There was a respected body recently that tested the latest adventure bikes from Ducati, BMW, Triumph and KTM, and only tested them off-road....why?!? Anyway, this was good, cheers guys!
@andrus54
@andrus54 Жыл бұрын
Will you upgrade? Thinking should I trade in mine.
@HollyBerryDOOG
@HollyBerryDOOG Жыл бұрын
This particular green paint job is the only one on the BMW website that allows the fancy billet levers etc
@CaptainThirdGen
@CaptainThirdGen Жыл бұрын
Color scheme is sweet. Not sold on the front end yet. I really liked the R1250 front end, maybe Ill get used to this one. Who knows. Great video as usual, Chris
@allanrutherford9273
@allanrutherford9273 Жыл бұрын
I’ve nothing against their new upgraded model, I do, however, think it’ll divide the buyers on looks alone,,,, it’s not quite my taste, but then again I tuned out of the Sports bike market after they replaced the 954 FireBlade lol. So what do I know 🤷‍♂️ But I do think this is gonna send the resale value of the older bikes through the roof. Still a great and honest review from a genuine fan. And for that,, I thank you 🙏
@jasonwaller6778
@jasonwaller6778 Жыл бұрын
Great review and puts my hometown of Alton on the map, no love for Barnstormer then Chris 😉
@motomark7671
@motomark7671 Жыл бұрын
Would you be in a rush out to change your 1250 GSA for it or would you wait for the new GSA next year? Have they done enough to even give you the desire to change at all? Personally, I’m tall like you, a current 1250 GSA rider and when I sit on mine, you don’t feel you are to big for it, that is the appeal for me, the presence you have on the old one!
@BIGGIEsmalls13
@BIGGIEsmalls13 Жыл бұрын
Come on Baron....watching your sheer delight on the 916 sps and now on this SUV for lifestyle vacuums, no wonder the dog has ran off upstairs in utter disgust. Never seen anyone off road on one, just 15 GS riders driving past my farm behaving with false superiority.
@iainamurray
@iainamurray Жыл бұрын
Teapot one just did an off-road tour of Morocco with a group all on GSs
@MV-XD2
@MV-XD2 Жыл бұрын
The bottom of the screen is a ‘tache LOL 😂 the B3349 looked as much fun as always!
@callecartagena5690
@callecartagena5690 Жыл бұрын
Honest and entertaining, as ever. Yeah that screen with part perspex and framework?? - maybe leftover parts from their Junker Ju190. Thanks for this great first review.
@BRMCaptChaos
@BRMCaptChaos Жыл бұрын
Looks better on the road than in the showroom and marketing guff to be fair. Nice colour. Obvious move to road bias it (which is honest), and to me, it appears a great all rounder for road/tour/scratch and even track days. And bmw reliability, with a decent tape measure (dong length) on the bhp figure, it will do very well.
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