BMW R1300GS | Real World First Ride

Quick little "Reality Run" on the all new R1300GS.
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[@sweebeyh4327]

Thankyou for actually showing us this brand new bike and not just riding off and just talking about something we never actually see like so many other vloggers. Great vid, thanks. 👍

[@tomcooney183]

Heartily agree, frustrating when theyre telling you about a bike and you dont even know what it looks like

[@belly450]

Have they lost the anti nod feature that stops GS riders saying hello to other bikers 😂

[@zyoungson215]

Just like the 'anti indicator' feature on BMW cars? I wouldn't think so, its part of the brand.

[@ianjames3078]

Does that feature not transfer to second owners? Bought mine used and the nod is definitely there.

[@bjrnchrstn]

Thing is that the boxer engine trembles so much that you don't see the nod 😅

[@steveross2280]

Yes!! But it’s an option on the configurator! Kinda hard to find, tho

[@awakeadventurer9198]

I dont know where you guys live, but im in Southern California and have had GSs since 2015, always wave and most others wave back on any bikes. Only scooter riders dont and i think thats because they're not expecting it or are afraid to let a hand off the bars. Lol

[@Motovlog865]

BMW: Builds a comfy and utilitarian adv bike and outsells everyone for 43 years Ducati and KTM: Let's make sporty adv bikes with more hp and lackluster sales BMW: Let's copy those guys

[@ManxAndy]

Love you’re vlogs….it’s like I’m riding pillion …with my dad, 👍👌🇮🇲😜

[@FortyFourTeeth]

Dad haha

[@ManxAndy]

@@FortyFourTeeth well, I’m 25 in my head, but 54 when I’m flexing….at 3.30am looking for the pull switch in the bathroom…😂👍🇮🇲

[@MacKenzie001]

​ @FortyFourTeeth Hammer down pops!! Do a wheelie!

[@Crsf84]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Scouse.Malinois]

Owh daddy😂

[@benmitchell2072]

All you other 1300 GS you tube reviewers out there who attended the launch in Spain.... pay attention. This is how you do a review. An opinion from someone who knows what they are talking about. Try it sometime. Thanks Chris.

[@greg4318]

I always piss myself laughing at the size of the number plates in the UK - the look like something out of the 1920’s 😂

[@TommieTrumper-TFC1200]

The real joy of listening to you Chris, is that you tell us how the bike makes you feel, which is the real reason we ride, thanks bud excellent vid!

[@hkeg80]

I do find the headlight hideous, but I could live with that, my main gripe is that they've lost the blocky aggressive look, it somehow looks more Italian, which I guess is a plus to some people but I find it more boring.

[@BIGGGESTAL]

I agree about the indicators and brake lights. It is absolutely rubbish and almost invisible

[@nicks2908]

I really don't understand what the complaint is about. If you are breaking and indicating then it's not so clear? Well first I don't think I agree but then I think, well what does it matter, anyone behind sees you are breaking and has to slow down, it doesn't really matter that your turning off and the indicator isn't the headline show, the important bit is the slowing

[@LEEGOOVER9901]

​@@nicks2908how about car centric country?

[@Tiz147]

Indicators have never been BMWs strong point.

[@nicks2908]

@@Tiz147 😂

[@benkelly2190]

@@nicks2908a lot of people do have a problem, I’m not convinced, its good enough. Brake lights in, indicators, is a bad idea, the previous system was far, far better. The indicators were very bright, to.

[@xcelmaster4779]

Recently purchased a 20 year old SV650 for track days. Started using it on the road as well. Greatest fun bike I’ve ever owned. Cost €1500.

[@awakeadventurer9198]

Ive heard many track riders put gixxer front ends on those and thats its awesome. Enjoy

[@bikeserv]

I am building one .Andreani cartridge,donor serviced shock and ferodo xrac pads.and Chinese rearsets

[@francom2052]

With all of the affiliation between the 44 teeth crew, and Bahnstormer Motorrad Chris, why the move to buying your BMW bikes from Vines? Bad blood or something? Bahnstormer being literally on the same industrial estate as Dead Pixels but buying from Vines. Pray tell….

[@drewyager4020]

No one asked for more power and more sport in a GS. Not cool

[@laurieh]

As a BMW tech...there are some things that annoy me about this bike. 1- Dash is exactly the same as 1250 2- plastic lever adjusters are flimsy and will break 3- Lots of customer complaints about swingarm/engine corrosion/easy scratched...BMW decided to basically blast raptor paint over everything. 4- Now use cheapo paper oil filters inside engine instead of spin on metal ones. It works but...going on the cost cutting theme. 5- Footpeg clips constantly falling off is maybe sorted...maybe not??? 6- An "adventure" bike that will enjoy falling on its side alot will smash the expensive LED indicators in the hand guards...a lot. 7- Centre stand flippy up extra help extender is stupid Im sure as time goes on I will like the 1250 more 😅

[@davidgreenop9978]

Centre stand lever pivot won't last long with salty roads.

[@jesuschrist7169]

Good luck becoming a real mechanic and not just a tech

[@laurieh]

@@jesuschrist7169 Good luck being a smart arse....was working on old carbed bikes being a "mechanic" already for years.

[@ThaKillaInstinctHD]

I’ve had a shit day today, watching this made it a lot better. Thanks guys

[@bloophero]

I initially read this as "I've had a shit today, watching this made it a lot better". Which completely matches my situation... However, that's not what you said. Thanks guys!

[@gretchensghost]

@@bloophero I too thought he was commenting that having defecated, he needed a pick me up and one arrived in the shape of this video.

[@bjrnchrstn]

Interesting... I had to shit and watching this made it a lot easier. My god tgat thing is ugly. It's almost like bmw does it deliberately.

[@henryvaneyk3769]

To be honest, I think the Triumph 1200 would make a better tourer now that the Beemer has gone stiffer. And it looks nicer in my opinion.

[@Crsf84]

That’s quite subjective, I had a test of a 1200 this week and the buttons/dash is awful compared to others especially the bm. Yes it’s lighter but in my opinion not as good at the gs 1250 anyway

[@ttrguy9952]

@@Crsf84 I love the dash on my 2023 Tiger GT Explorer. The switch gear is flawless and is backlit unlike the BMW.

[@hartley383]

I think I may agree, My GS is out of warranty in May, not sure the new one is going to tick the boxes for me. Could well be the Tiger 1200 next or grab a 1250 GSA before they replace it.

[@nscott26]

I have 14,000 miles on my 23' Tiger GT Explorer, I rode the 1250gsa and the 1250gs for the first time and here are my opinions. The comfort on the tiger is better, having separate buttons for heated grips and heated seats and backlit switches the tiger is better. The quick shifter on the tiger is way better, it's so smooth. The electronic suspension on the tiger is better and more plush, being able to adjust the suspension from lazy boy recliner to feeling every crack in the road is nice. Higher rpm's is more fun on tiger. Wind protection is a little better on the tiger. Did not like the gsa with standard non electronic suspension, didn't like the handling or the ride quality, fuel tank spread legs to wide. Tried the gs with electronic suspension and these opinions below are from that ride. The BMW corners and handles twisty roads better. The lack of front end dive on the BMW felt odd/different but would say that's better. The BMW has better low to midrange power, the torque pull is insane. The tft display and menu layout is better on the BMW. Fuel economy is better on the BMW. The engine is less viby on the BMW. Quick shifter sucks, is really clunky and jerky on BMW. The electronic suspension felt stiff/harsh/clunky rear suspension in dynamic, didn't feel very plush in road mode.

[@Guinnessisgoodforyou]

Triumph fuc*ed the 1200 and 900 when they changed the firing order, sounds crap now.😢

[@mimounazdad9195]

There is some kind of dongle for all the bmw’s with that stupid rear brake light. It turns the brake light off on the side you are indicating

[@eriklindhardsenact7596]

Denali lights would help with the back lights

[@1956colinb]

Massive mistake those combined indicators/ brake lights, my mates XR has them on and I almost ran into the back of him this weekend because the low winter sun shining on the rear of his bike just bleached out the indicators completely 😳! Worst idea ever safety wise, a definite backwards step and I’m amazed at a company like BMW who have pioneered so much safety tech on motorcycles that they even considered doing something as stupid as these indicators, I wouldn’t buy any BMW with these fitted,you’re just asking to be rear ended by some old pensioner who should have gone to Specsavers 🤓!

[@etniesks]

another icon brand demolished by current designer

[@jasondunn8894]

Thanks for a practical initial review Chris. From what I’ve seen the bike actually looks lighter and more streamlined. Looks like it’s been on keto and got to the gym which I like as they have seemed to be getting bigger and bulkier for previous models 👍

[@jesuschrist7169]

All these people saying sounds like a tractor are so wrong. I own a tractor and it sounds amazing compared to this bike!

[@mrcru53]

I hope you guys understand how much joy you give people around the world with your talent. All of our shitty, boring lives are improved by your pommy humour (and boothy) and real-talk opinions. ❤

[@parko1965]

"Our shitty lives", whoa hang on pal, you speak for yourself son.

[@AldredsquashUk]

Bike might have become more youthful..but the owners remain old farts

[@gingerelvis]

Great no bollocks first ride! No getting bogged down in stats just the things you can actually feel. I don't typically care for the GS or much for modern "adventure" bike generally, they're usually a weird halfway house between a tourer and properly capable off road bike to me. This is the most interesting GS in a long time, it looks good, it's much more road focused where almost all of them are used and less bulky. Corduroy trousers now optional.

[@rickchardet01]

I don't see the point in making the GS so stiff and sporty when the S1000XR exists

[@convoiexceptionnels]

Not sure if I'm a massive fan of the adaptive cruise control.

[@iainamurray]

Don’t use it then

[@khakimzhanmiras]

pretty much useless.

[@paulyflyer8154]

Funnily enough I tried the Yamaha Tracer GT+ last week whilst waiting for my GS to be serviced. I can't speak for beemer, but the Tracer's adaptive cruise control really was amazing. Its one of those things that once you've had it for a couple of months, you'd REALLY miss it. I don't like the new GS though I must admit. I'm on my 6th now with my 1250 and every new incarnation I've had over 25 years, has been a huge improvement over the last, and I appreciated them immediately, but I think this could hit the buffers this time for me. It seems to have dropped down a class which is swimming in excellent Japanese alternatives.

[@benschofield7565]

No doubt a lot of people have said the same about regular cruise control......those people probably won't even consider bikes without it now.

[@paulyflyer8154]

@@benschofield7565 I remember my dad scoffing when power steering started appearing on cars.

[@MOTOUK1]

Great to get your thoughts on this bike Chris, always value your opinion. My biggest thought is would this be as comfy on the long Europe tours as the older model? Maybe the Adventure when it comes will be slightly different. Question as i see the electronic locking luggage connection, can you fit say Givi boxes which i prefer over the factory plastic looking boxes.

[@babyfknblu]

Do you think that if they made one of these that had literally NONE of the electronic farkles, just one fuel map and maybe ABS, it would still be a compelling product? How is it just as An Motorcycle

[@StuHNomadBiker]

The DNA of the GS has always been a magic carpet of a ride, a tourer that defies physics and just seemed to handle impeccably. Im on my 4th GSA currently, a 1250 .. and its pretty much perfection, just the right level of performance with the classic GSA waftability! Hoping the Adventure is going to be something slightly different again ( heard rumours that it might be a 1400 🤔 ) so maybe theyve got something to surprise us with, in the near future for me though .. ill be sticking with what ive got

[@jesuschrist7169]

😂😂😂😂 perfection 😂😂😂😂

[@brisprott2451]

Great level fair review. Given BMW know their current GS customers will not be customers in 20 years, and given the time between model changes, then they had to make a move to get the younger riders interested in their most important model. I like the look but will sticj with my Adventure for touring two up

[@TheSloppyDingo]

Persian taxi driver spec phone case... I shot coffee out of my nose.

[@wretchedrider2157]

As a fellow biggun... has it lost its appeal as a big boy friendly bike? You said it's a bit sportier and has the auto suspension adjustments to help the shortys... so no more huge beast bike like previous GSAs?

[@vinitview]

Why is there star fish on headlight 😅

[@Inspire196]

Given you only dropped this off at Vines yesterday morning (I was there!), well done for getting this video out so quickly - and for the ace quality! Thanks

[@skts2610]

Cracking rough review Chris, not my cup of tea but I’m sure BMW will sell shed loads of them…

[@Nell1052]

Good feedback Chris, but WTF??? A harder suspeded GS with less mile munching comfort ability? That's another negative on top of; ahhh murch & yet more unwanted on board technology to put off many potential buyers !

[@BaronVonGrumble]

I think the Adventure version will be very different to this "Road" version.

[@big500]

Looking forward to next years 1350🤪🤪

[@Saint_Maximus_III]

After that the 1400😂😂

[@steve-wu7jp]

Looks like they got styling advice from CF moto

[@mattjones1504]

Great video as usual, only thing I would say is, you criticise some of the bike but, you're in Dynamic Pro and have not configures it i would guess, that's why you have warning lights on and the throttle is are the most aggressive. Also, you're riding the bike in Dynamic / Dynamic Pro and not Road as most owner will. You then say about the snatchy throttle, stiff suspension and the bike wants to wheelie - yes it will if you're in those modes and not the right mode for the road. I think you would have given a better review of the bike if you were in the right modes for the road. Do enjoy your reviews but this one feels a little misleading on what the bike can do. It's like people riding the RR in race on the road - pointless.

[@InterimExec]

Yeah May be...but alll those buttons and why not illuminated like our Contempra (1967) house phone...I so miss the old days...with a crank your bike would always start LOL

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Enjoyed that Chris - so refreshing to see a real world review of this type, really looking forward to trying one myself when all the fuss has died down a bit…thumbs up from me for your review 👍

[@Jaffa1951]

Have you watched Chops' review yet?

[@mdragon99]

@44Teeth. It's a pretty bike now but do you think the new GS can handle the occasional campground drop without having to be all armored up with 300 lbs of tubing and sheet metal?

[@ryanmalone2681]

Nope

[@keithchelini5776]

Persian taxi driver spec flippy wallet! 😂

[@gattigatozza]

I suspect 1250GS prices will go up.

[@alexbarnett8085]

When / if are they planning on releasing the GS Adventure model? Love the review, been waiting to hear your thoughts on it‼️💯

[@hair2050]

This is a purely academic exercise, that said, I buy this bike. I love the slimmed down looks and weight, it’s that simple. The older models look too bulky for me and my 5’10” 74 kg. Just seems silly to be sitting on a 1/4 of a ton of metal 🤷‍♂️. 12kg shouldn’t make a practical difference however it makes a mental difference to me. Completely agree regarding the non updated switchgear, shame. Not having backlit seems so cheap on such an otherwise polished and premium bike. And yep, cruise control is a great feature but I don’t want radar. Give me a cheaper lighter less complicated bike please. One last thought. I’d love to see this engine in a light open top 4 wheeler designed specifically for the engine.

[@InterimExec]

The problem here in Canada is you will never get a bike that is not full optioned. Dealers only get a to order a few model and they will not jeopardize their margin for a "naked Bike". On the other hand Bmw Tech in the long end always becomes cherished...remember CRAZZY Abs.

[@KTM-1090]

On its own I think this is probably going to be a great bike…but…the old GS had its place in the market as a comfortable tourer that could do anything - especially going long distances in comfort which really, the competition couldn’t compete with. This new edition will just be eaten up by the V4s of this world. I rode the 1250 recently for the first time and it’s a seriously great bike. I know change is good but they’d pretty much hit on perfection for what they were trying to achieve. Nowhere else to go with it.

[@stephennewell6628]

Hit the nail on the head, you see a 1250 and you think “ok it’s the GS, and it’s perfect” you see this and you think “ok it’s a motorbike like all the others” meh.

[@diacono5221]

What a strange comment. All bike models are either updated or deleted from the model range. By V4 I'm assuming that you are referring to the Multistrada? If so, it's a totally different bike, which costs more, and has a shorter range. Have you ridden the 1300 yet? I haven't, and will therefore reserve judgement until I have.

[@KTM-1090]

@@diacono5221 I don’t need to ride it to see they’ve sacrificed comfort and wind protection for less weight and more power 🤷‍♂️ Obviously the V4 is a different bike but the point I was making is they’re all aimed at the same type of people looking for power and the 1250gs has always been a bike with its own section of the market pretty much tied up. It looks from initial impressions and from watching Chris’s video that they’re deviating slightly from their winning formula. Not sure why you think that’s strange.

[@getty6974]

Actually the main thing with r1300gs is that it has an actual motorcycle transmission for the first time ever. Also transmission is positiones to the bottom of engine casing now. So even lower weight distribution. That on top of it allready being lighter. Time will show but on paper this is superior to r1250gs in every way. Oh yeah and addition of adaptive cruise is massive for tourers.

[@iainamurray]

Thank you Chris. Nice review. Maybe I’ll get one second hand in 10 years.

[@Ade.M]

Aside the crunch, is the gearbox an improvement over the old agricultural GS gearbox?

[@ozzyg82]

“I believe this shaft is a little bit longer”. My new pillow talk line if ever I heard one.

[@iainamurray]

I can’t get past thinking about the great big chunky head.

[@adamc209]

Awesome stuff Chris, still to be convinced on those looks and the digger sounds, luckily I can’t afford one and will hold on to my 1200 GSA

[@7485D]

Thought you’d bought a Suzuki DR big 800 from the 90’s

[@HalfManHalfPirate]

Great real world vid, I did lol at Uncle Bucks car and will think of that every time my 1250GSA blancmanges along the motorway 😂 Question time, What is the new headlight actually like in the dark?

[@jpg6482]

I’ll stick with my 1250 gsa at the moment - not sure I like the direction. If I wanted a multi strada I would just buy one..

[@irisgardener4141]

I sound like an old cynic but every part on that looks like it would be incredibly expensive to replace. That radar, for instance, is super vulnerable. My "older" GS has a headlight guard so the antithesis of this bling. The appeal of the GS brand is its ruggedness. It's not supposed to be trick and spotless.

[@elithegreat6463]

I do think those engine internals do sound like a "Tractor". Some people will be smart, and wait at least a year, to let this new models and any Gremlins get settled. A New Engine and transmission in the first model year, is never a good formula for trouble free reliability. However, a lot of riders will buy this model, and unwillingly become BMW Beta testers and Guiana pigs. Also, a very Good point about the lack of lighted buttons. My 2023 900-GT Pro, is all I Need, with every option on a Bike.

[@ilmostro16]

Great review as usual. GS’s are great adventure bikes. But to have more “renegade fun” when touring, get the new Multistrada V4. Yeah I’m a Ducati fanboy, but I’ve ridden GS’s…. There’s no contest when it comes to sport riding between a GS and a Multi. It’s like comparing a tractor to a sportbike.

[@CriticalRider]

What happened to Bahnstormer?

[@FortyFourTeeth]

exactly

[@MOTOUK1]

Was thinking same, they lent one to LCR today, maybe they prefer LCR now 🤔😂 also no bike launch trip 😮 Come on BMW why not ?

[@marcfyfe5708]

Double bloody decker @ 26:06 for those that know

[@GeorgiaGrowGuy]

That's a good-looking bike without all the luggage. It sounds like a broken-down diesel taxi in Cairo.

[@BernardVisagie]

In the Netherlands, a specced up GS (White) will set you back over 26 000 Pound sterling... =(

[@sufeeb]

Bloody taxes!!

[@jimbo-kg2dt]

All i could see was a black moustache after you mentioned it 😂

[@WheelieGoodTV]

Loved this review. However, I can’t help thinking you sound like Alan Partridge!! It kept me laughing throughout. A really great video though, well done. 👌🏍️🎥

[@johnblackmore3968]

Thought you dealt with Barnstormer Chris, someone pissed on your chips hence the change to Vines????

[@charliestoybox2099]

Good review thanks. For what the GSA 1250 is, the the new bike can’t beat it. For what this new GS is, Ducati Multistrada is the better choice. Just the opinion of someone who enjoys both brands.

[@nick1bb1]

Thanks for the honest review, a pity really because i like the looks but its not for me - I sold my 1250 as my legs were too cramped and the 1300 sounds like its even more so. Quick question does the engine sound as mechanically noisy as the 1250 engine?

[@gerry343]

Electric screen? Unnecessary weight and complication.

[@Justwanthavefun_100]

Next generation GS1300 might have updated LED screen and illuminated buttons on.

[@glsracer]

As an RT owner, this GS looks amazing and seems way more powerful and smooth running than my older Oilhead. Engine refinement and fueling seems pretty close to what you would find on a Honda which is really nice to see.

[@iliaskhottour3886]

You're kidding right when you say that the looks are amazing? This is the first GS ever I believe is the most hidious I have ever seen! I was a bit hesitating but the tiger 1200 series is the obvious choice.

[@glsracer]

@@iliaskhottour3886 I'm dead serious. I readily admit that I may not be the typical GS buyer since I'm 40 and have a history of buying sport bikes (before my RT anyway). I do think it looks great and the improved power and refinement will no doubt attract a new demographic of buyer.

[@awakeadventurer9198]

Im 51 and am on my second GS since 2015. All sport bikes before that. Loved the look, the sound, the power and agility of sport bikes. I did track days often and road hundreds of miles every weekend in the mountains n deserts. Was totally in love but couldn't ride long in that position due to longtime work related inflammation etc. In 2015 i was up on ACH(a twistie mountain road in southern California) with an older friend(killer rider). Jamie casually asked if i wanted to try out his R1200GS. It was probably a '14. At that moment i was on my last sport bike('13 ZX-14R), though i didnt know it. I thought GSs were weird looking etc. He smiled n chuckled as i got on his bike. He had turned many riders onto GSs. It only took a few minutes to realize how nice the GS was. Plenty of linear power, turned awesome, and comfortable too! What a concept. I also rode his buddy's R1200GSA that had a full titanium exhaust and tune etc. That was like a fast agile Cadillac i thought. I was totally sold. 3 weeks later i traded in my Ninja for a matt racing blue R1200GSA. Badass looking and lived up to that appearance on and off road. Everyday on my way home, especially from adv rides, i was blown away how awesome it was. Same today with my '21. BMW definitely hooked me, thanks to Jamie. Not to mention: great brakes, heated grips w multiple levels, adjustable windscreen, and now a heated seat and a separate outlet for my heated jacket liner for long winter rides. And on my 21 i bought the hard Vario(expandable) cases. Though i dont like how the side cases open on the side, overall it was some of the best money I've ever spent! I hate wearing backpacks or using small tail bags. Its so nice to have plenty of storage!!

[@glsracer]

@@awakeadventurer9198 that's a great story. I have a 2002 R1150RT. I got it with about 58k miles on it for a really great price which was great since I was looking for a fixer bike. It ran really bad when I got it and had to replace replace the RH throttle body and the O2 sensor right away. I also did the valve job and added an AF-XIED when I replaced the O2 sensor. Not to mention several TB synchronizations and adjustment of the TPS to set 0.32 degrees while at idle. It's running pretty good now but the vibration from the older 1150 engine takes some getting used to coming from smoother Japanese bikes. Part of that vibration may be from the very worn clutch splines that I will address soon. I like that the newer bikes have balance shafts and computer controlled throttle bodies. I'm going to give my vintage RT a chance but I wouldn't be surprised if I started looking at a new R1300GS or RT at some point in the future.

[@miglioverde303]

​@@awakeadventurer9198👍👌

[@alexmorgan3435]

Not really a GS fan, but can't think of anyone better to review this new version with your extensive experience of them. How close to an S1000XR is it? I know the engine is different, but there must be some over lap in other areas such as the chassis, suspension and ride giving a lot stiffer sportier ride? Loving the colour scheme of this one dark green and gold wheels and bars. Not having illuminated back lit switch is a big fail on a premium bike imho. Triumphs and KTM have it. Don't know whether the Ducati Multistrada or others have it?

[@negoras]

The idea of changing every year everything just for not being the same,it make very strange motorcycles without a taste.Personal opinion. Nice review!

[@frankspeakmore7104]

The scenario : Passo Giau Dolomites, warm summer afternoon, clear blue skies, quiet roads. Cafe at the top is buzzing with Italian ladies. The question: Which bike would give the most satisfaction on that trip and be the most memorable? BMW GS 1300 (fully specd) or Ducati 916 SPS which you've sorted yourself?

[@wdhpne]

Having no rear brake light is a show stopper for me. No matter how good a bike it is.

[@alexmorgan3435]

I think it must have as it is a legal requirement certainly in the UK.

[@frankspeakmore7104]

It will need a rear light, but possibly hard to see. It might be because it's intergrated into the brake and indicator lights.

[@Ni3K]

If you are travelling and your keyless dies, it is much more fun if you also can not get to your luggage...

[@GCTO239]

Really sounds like a tractor. 😂🤦🏽

[@grayjohn1906]

Or maybe a fork lift truck?😂

[@GCTO239]

@@grayjohn1906 maybe. 🤣

[@trailingarm63]

BMW must have been feeling really threatened by its KTM rival judging by the nature of the new bike. It's more of a sporty road burner really, isn't it? It looks as though it's more small-person friendly as well, which is fine if you are one but no good if you're tall. I'm quite happy with my 1250 RT and see nothing in this bike which would tempt me away. Let's see what they do with the 1300RT next year!

[@jackg5147]

What happened to you using Bahnstormer?

[@svenhollis-lifts]

As a 22MY 1250gsa owner, I concur the trellis frame/the whole bike for that matter requires some time to get really clean, maybe I’m just pedantic 😅 I’ve never heard of the cylinder heads being an issue with corrosion? Is this really a manufacturing complaint? I’m in Sydney so maybe that makes a difference 🤷🏼‍♂️ Thanks for this content Baron, I’m only 18 months into ownership of mine so not looking anytime soon but can’t wait for the adventure version being reviewed 👍🏻

[@johnclayton6158]

Thanks for the honest review! That windshield thing looks like Bullwinkle's antlers but I'm sure that after a few hundred miles of ownership they wouldn't be noticed.

[@Nutshell_Grammar]

"This is where I buy my BMWs from now" I guess Chris has never read Humblebrag: The Art of False Modesty. 😜

[@GPR111]

Sport bike disguised as adv tourer, I wouldnt take it on a grand tour with passenger and luggage either. Its all very clever and will be a sales success but not with my support I have to say.

[@antonoat]

Seems they’ve redesigned it for smaller people, I really wish they hadn’t, I like the spaciousness of the existing model ! Guess if I was a small person I’d feel different. 👏👍😀🏍

[@robvanduren761]

719 = fancy shit 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

[@Otto-AutoPilot]

I just have a real problem not getting a quick shifter as standard on a flagship bike at this price level, then take even greater umbridge having to pay £1,610 for a Dynamic pack, just to get access to a quick shifter. Not cricket.

[@ejdtm]

You mentioned all you can hear is the time chains and top end of a GS. I took one for a test drive thinking I was gonna buy one and I just can’t get over the tinny sound of the bike. I ended up with the Multistrada Enduro for a couple years.

[@spotty_cat26]

Nice review, I like it because I'm short. Bin the dangerous rear indicators/brake light and i'd buy one. All the other design and tech bits are individual likes or non likes. I do like the headlight.

[@Tiax776]

Hopefully other manufacturers take heed and use this as an example what not to do. Not having a separate brake light is just ridiculous and dangerous. Well, atleast you can tell 0,5 seconds before you get rear ended that you're about to get wrecked because of that stupid radar which nobody wants. It just adds cost, adds weight, is going to break and is hideous. Every biker has a blind spot monitor, it's called turning your head. Integrated indicators on the hand guards. So when you drop the bike (it's an adventure bike), you're going to destroy your hand guard and your indicator as well. Even if you replace the hand guards, then you have to do some botch job to get the indicators.

[@marktaylor4602]

Interesting insight from your first outing on the GS. I am really excited by all the positive points that you have highlighted in the video, but personally will be waiting to see what the GSA offers. My major concern is the price point. When I priced up the new GS, with all the nice to have options and luggage it was touching on £25k. That doesn’t bode well for what the GSA is likely to cost to match my triple black GSA……likely to be well north of £25k, which would be prohibitive for most. Time will tell. Keep up the great work !!

[@DmagAdv]

I’m a 1250GS owner and thanks for the “real world” review. It’s what I’ve been waiting for. Guess BMW has decided to sacrifice their loyal followers by being more of a “renegade” bike and market to the Ducati and KTM riders. Guess I’ll keep my 1250 afterall.

[@charliestoybox2099]

I agree. Progress isn’t always a step forward. I guess the 1250 GSA is the last of the great GS’s. I’d rather replace my GSA with a Ducati Pikes Peak than the new GS.

[@Quagmire88]

I have a 23' R1250GSA. I don't like this new version. Looks very ugly and don't like how they neutered the utilitarian aspect of the bike. I also don't like how they are adding a lot of these electronics. The electronic screen and the self lowering stuff adds weight and more things to go wrong. Adaptive cruise control is terrible and dangerous. All they needed to do was make the engine on the 1250 more powerful and add new color schemes.

[@simonmatthewwright1221]

In reality it's a touring bike, you don't take 1300cc off road it is to heavy to flick in the unknown ground of off road terrain, also the clutch & frame stiffness will with miles smooth out!!! I Do Agree About the Moustache Look of the Windscreen Mount, 1) it restrict your view whilst in slow movements & 2) It's Very Distracting,,,,, I's on road not on Quirky Parts of Your Bike, Overall with Top Box/Panniers you could cross Europe on it with ease like my Y plate Y921 SNB Africa Twin!?

[@timpcrowther73]

You seem a little underwhelmed?

[@AlessandroAbatePhotography]

Excellent review. Truly rider's perspective and blunt. Personally, I think the new 1300GS is an aborted motorcycle: very nice belt line, horrible headlights and pathetic tail lights. Then, so many details screwed up like windshield moustaches, hip-knee-ankle triangle which is VITAL for a comfortable ride and that muffler....half a cigar left in the ashtray. The BMW Motorrad chief designer should be fired.

[@johnwust9230]

This looks to be the best bike to be on when you get to the mountain roads, although not necessarily the best bike on the way there. Life is full of compromise.

[@P67R_Nick]

I do find it amusing how Triumph, KTM and BMW are all trying to make bikes to attractive the others customers. They dont seem to realise that in doing so, they are loosing the customers they already have. Would you swap your 1250 for a 1300 Chris? I figured not but you didn't give a decisive answer tot he question.

[@Elysian_Angel_]

So basically the TLDR is: new GS is the bike you want; old GS is the bike you need - more practical and better suited to daily riding and real-world road surfaces… The new bike sounds even more like a “jizz machine” than the old one, but is that what you really want from a practical do-it-all motorbike? 🤔

[@bensmith7536]

I had radar on a KTM 1290S, turned it off. Its a useless fad that needs to go away. EDIT: Give me more fuel. Longer service intervals. Heated everything as standard. More power. Radar? I dont sit in traffic, I look for open road, probably why im still here after 30 years riding. Radar is a useless gimmick. Googles take on it: A gimmick is a novel device or idea designed primarily to attract attention or increase appeal, often with little intrinsic value.

[@chrzanik666]

I don't know it doesn't make me want one.. got two ktms and 800 gsa was looking forward to new cow 🐄 for its comfort and now its a skinny latè for short people with adult ADD thanks for normal person review mate.

[@maxflight777]

I’m thrilled that it’s stiffer ! Who the hell likes “wallow” ? (Perhaps you guys who like fat birds ?) FFS 😂

[@chrisoates49]

@baronvongrumble having ridden the multi V4 rally on the riders digest. I know ur a bit of a GS fan boy, if you were to replace ur 1250, would you get the new 1300 or go for the rally?… cheers Chris

[@oguztemel1978]

Me, a normal guy tested this motorcycle. Yes, it's gadget whise better and more nimble. The character of it is like a supermotard with off road tyres, which I personally don't like. I still prefer the pervious GS models and am curious how the new GSA model will end up.

[@moody9931]

Apart from the front end I like the looks. Even the front has grown on me, just not enough. Although, can't say there's an adventure bike on the market that I like the look of. Engine in the KTM almost won me over, but those ballbags and droopy front end! Is that what I'm gonna look like in another twenty years? Balls scraping the floor and all elasticity in my face completely fail 🤦