I SOLVED SISTER LOCATION'S PLACEMENT IN THE TIMELINE! | Five Nights at Freddy's Theory

[@MochaBiscuitCafe]

I always had the impression that two events happen simultaneously. Its theorized that afton is found in the back rooms some time later after his "death". Well, i always had the feeling as William is being sealed in the backroom, michael is being scooped. Narritivly, it makes sense and if both were "dead" at the same time, both would meet at fnaf 3 and 6 together.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

I can see the idea, but there's an issue with that. By the time Michael works at SL the metal of the Classics have been combined into the Funtimes. Like I said in the video, there's a passage of time that happens between William dismantling the animatronics and Michael going to SL because we know that the animatronics are rented out for parties. I think it would be weird for Afton to dismantle the animatronics for their metal over the course of a week (or a single night, whenever you think Follow Me happens), and then arbitrarily he comes back at some point again way later for something else (Whether you think that's for Golden Freddy or his costume.)

[@MochaBiscuitCafe]

@TheDoctorIsIn101 There isn't a set amount of time between when they seal William in the back rooms and his springlock in the Mini game right? I'm new to the lore.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

@@MochaBiscuitCafe No worries! Totally fine. There isn't a set time necessarily, but it had to have been soon after. He was stuck in that Safe Room for at least a decent amount of time, so if the room got boarded up awhile AFTER his death then that wouldn't make much sense cause he would've been able to leave. But imo, the logical process would be that the Follow Me minigames happen in decently quick succession because it's weird for them to be spread out. All that to say that whichever way you want to spin it, Afton HAS to be alive in some fashion to have told Michael to go to Sister Location.

[@alexs7670]

​@TheDoctorIsIn101 I actually think a better reason to assume purple guy is alive during sister location is because the facility is still operating. Any number of things happen off screen: the assumed communication between mike and william, the setting of the fnaf 3 fire, etc. Is ot unreasonable to assume the springtrap told mike where elizabeth was before he set the fire? I think only the fact that the sister location is open really suggests that the game takes place before afton gets spring locked.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

The company can exist without Afton being there. Also, whether or not you think SL is after FNaF 1 or after FNaF 3, William HAS to be dead by Sister Location because the Funtimes are haunted by the MCI. He melted down and injected their Remnant into the Funtimes, and then he went back to the pizzeria which is when he gets springlocked. No matter what you spin it, he is 100% springlocked by the time Sister Location happens.

[@natashiwong4885]

Y’all ever question if Fazbear entertainment found Williams body the next day and decided to board him up?

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

I imagine so, somebody had to board it up.

[@raysandrarexxia941]

My take on this: SL happens during follow me. William is gathering remnant, mike is taking it to the bunker nights 1-4 of SL, and night 5 is when both of them get transformed into their mechanical selves. After the SL gameplay, we see a noticeable time jump due to mike walking down the street multiple times until he becomes purple. Something being "narratively satisfying" never worked as an argument for me because: 1: It's subjective. 2: It assumes the writing is good/competent.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

That's fair, I get the "narrative satisfaction assumes competence/good writing", I've never personally liked it as evidence either--that's why even in my video I said "this part is just my opinion", cause I'd agree, it's not a good argument. What I do disagree with is that Mike is taking the Remnant to the bunker during nights 1-4 of SL; that doesn't really make any sense. Nowhere during the gameplay is it implied that Mike is bringing the Remnant down to the bunker nor does he "combine" it with the Funtimes. That REALLY doesn't work when you consider the fact that the animatronics are already haunted when Mike goes there. Follow Me and SL can't happen simultaneously. There is a passage of time between Afton getting springlocked and Michael going to SL; we know from the teaser I mentioned in the video that the animatronics are rented out for parties, and HandUnit even says that at the beginning.

[@raysandrarexxia941]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 have you seen TDReads talk about the "canceled due to leaks" paragraph? It does imply that something is happening during the time that the rental is open or was open

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

@@raysandrarexxia941 I haven't seen it but I'll look into it when I get the chance.

[@jeremymorris345]

15:23 Correction: Golden Freddy does have an Endoskeleton. You can see it in his model. It's just a springlock Endoskeleton not an Endo 01 model.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

I thought about that, but in certain iterations (Like the Silver Eyes novel) he is just an empty suit. Then in the movie he has an actual endoskeleton and he's standing. Either way I don't think Afton dismantled him.

[@jeremymorris345]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 Agreed, but saying Golden Freddy doesn't have an Endo is problematic, which is why I said something.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

No worries, you're right for calling it out

[@Somewahoo]

​@@TheDoctorIsIn101 I thought he's in suit mode since fredbear is spring lock animatronic

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

@@Somewahoo You would think so, but he's also clearly supernatural--able to teleport and screw with your brain to his heart's content.

[@ManyMonstersMedia]

‘Scarecrow is my favorite DC villain’😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

I'm so glad people caught that, I love adding those little things into these videos.

[@Invalidcookie-bv4cx]

0:40 He might, Star Wars isn't in the future either. "A Long time ago, in a galaxy far away". Star Wars takes place in the past. Not the future.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

I know but the joke was more about the fact the Funtimes are so high tech lol

[@DJBurns-jq8mn]

The timeframe is anywhere between at earliest 1995 (via Dittophobia confirming the bunker was there for 10 years with the animatronics still there and we know Circus Baby’s Entertainment and Rentals opened after a Freddy's location closed, 1985 being the first and last we know of is the FNAF 1 location which happens around the 1990s - 2000s). So 1995 at the earliest, 2010s at the latest or anywhere between. Edit: Phone guy tells us he worked there for 11 years and him at least working there during FNAF 2 in 1987 that means 1998 is likely when he dies in FNAF 1 and since Sister Location and Follow Me is after FNAF 1 we can narrow it down to 2008 (10 years after the FNAF 1 location likely closed) - the 2020s

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

I definitely see your point here, I'd even agree that FNaF 1 COULD take place as late as 1998/1999. But for all the points I said in the video, I do think SL takes place after FNaF 3. Since FNaF 3 is supposed to take place 30 years after Freddy's closing, it's possible FNaF 3 takes place in 2015? I'm not too sure on that though.

[@molamola9723]

There’s a huge piece of evidence you’ve left out in this video, and that is the security logbook. The logbook clearly is written after SL takes place, so which location did Mike fill out the logbook in? Well it’s not FFPS since Mike doesn’t actually work as a nightguard in FFPS so he wouldn’t need the logbook. It’s not written during SL since he isn’t a nightguard there either. Given the references to the fnaf3 office and some other modern details like the MacBook knockoff it’s most likely that the logbook was filled out during FNAF3. Meaning that FNAF3 has to happen after SL and your theory, while interesting, cannot actually work.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

I get your point, but there's actually an issue with that. There's something called "MetaLogbook" which is basically a theory that implies that the Logbook itself doesn't actually take place at a particular moment in time. The "Meta" would imply that it's actually an outside universe thing meant to serve as a puzzle for us (the readers) to solve (I.E. the whole "My Name" mystery.) It sounds weird, but it actually does have merit. For starters, if the Logbook is a Fazbear Entertainment item WHY is the FNaF 3 office the one depicted in the Logbook? FNaF 3 wasn't a Fazbear Entertainment thing, it was setup by a bunch of people that wanted to make a horror attraction based off those old spooky stories surrounding the brand. Furthermore, why would Cassidy and the Crying Child be conversing via a logbook of all things? Yeah they're ghosts, but since they ARE ghosts they should be able to just communicate like the other ghost children do. While I do think Mike is the FNaF 3 Guard, I don't think the logbook itself takes place at a certain time nor place. However, I do think "Foxy being depicted as the Nightguard" and the logbook featuring the FNaF 3 office could still be used as evidence for Mike being the Fazbear's Fright guard.

[@molamola9723]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 I’ve heard of metalogbook and it’s always felt like a cop out theory to me created by people who find it too difficult to fit the logbook in the timeline so they just give up on it, when there’s a perfectly reasonable way to place the logbook. It feels like people who claim metalogbook arbitrarily take what lore they like out of the logbook and claim what they don’t like to be noncanon. Is it truly the more logical answer to say that Scott created a random completely noncanon nonexistent pizzeria as filler just so he could drop some crucial lore clues? Why not just clearly set the logbook to occur during FNAF1 then? Metalogbook has always been a cheap excuse imho. Here’s how to resolve the logbook timeline placement: 1. It is not an “actual” logbook the children’s activities in the book are clearly diegetic meaning the “logbook” is actually just a children’s activity book marketed as a logbook. Who would make such a thing? Obviously Fazbear’s Fright could sell such a thing as merchandise. This also resolves your question of why the FNAF3 office is the one depicted. Why would Mike fill it out? From the FNAF3 night one phone call it’s clear Mike has been at Frights prior to FNAF3 so during his previous week where nothing happened he simply filled one out of boredom. 2. This second point is the bigger one. Scott included the “for real value see page 61” code within the book. What does this code do? Well it solves for inflation and the price difference between old coupons and the modern day value. What does this solve? Well it gives us a date: the year when the logbook takes place. Why on earth would Scott date the logbook if it’s just meta and has no placement on the timeline? It’s clear Scott had a canonical timeline and location placement in mind for this book. 3. Why would Scott put in a specific code to date the logbook? Well it makes it super useful for the community then. It clarifies when FNAF3 takes place and also confirms what happens prior to FNAF3 such as SL and FNAF4. 4. Finally if the logbook is meta why aren’t there any references to FFPS. Why no Molten Freddy? No Rockstar Bonnie? Fruit Punch Clown? Helpy? It’s clear that FFPS was left out on purpose given that it’s the only game that happens after FNAF3 on the timeline, every single other game is referenced. The single game which takes place after FNAF3 was intentionally left out.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

As someone who doesn't like MetaLogbook either, yeah, I would agree it's a "cop out". However, I don't really think it's a children's activity book either. That doesn't make sense. For starters, on the very first page we see that Mike's written his name in it--hence how we know it belonged to him. However, there's also a note that says something like "Oops! Looks like this book used to belong to someone else! You don't mind, right?" Later on in the book it references Springlock Suits--but there's another note that reads something along the lines of, "Actually disregard this part. Don't bring up the springlock suits." Why would a horror attraction based on the old stories of Freddy's care about the springlock suits being mentioned? It makes more sense for the company itself to worry about that. The other issue is that even if the Logbook is an actual item within universe, we've never seen it at all. It's not even mentioned in The Week Before which would've been the perfect opportunity to bring it up considering how much insight we get into the employees and workplace attitude in it.

[@molamola9723]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 Those are fair and common responses so 1. It has to be a children’s activity book because the characters (all three of them) interact with the silly activity questions, hence why I said that they are diegetic. Those activities within the book clearly are designed for children and quite common in most children’s activity books. And those silly activity questions are clearly not something that any company would actually put in a legitimate security logbook, meaning it has to be a fake logbook. Making the most probable option a piece of Fazbear’s Fright merchandise. 2. I did not delve into details, but it’s very much likely the fake logbook was provided to Mike by Fazbear’s Fright so he could have something to do over the first week (where nothing happens). Once they hypothetically open, to any possible guests passing by Mike would also look like a “real” guard filling out logs. After the week, Mike returns the activity book to Frights since he’s finished with it. Frights keeps the book for the next possible nightguard after Mike quits and adds some notes to the book. 3. Those notes in the book thus are placed there by Frights management after Mike has already returned the book. The notes were placed there some time during Mike’s second week (the week we play) and what does Frights find during the second week? A springlock suit, one with a corpse inside. They know the issue but they don’t want to get rid of the attraction so the company tries to hide it (as usual in these games). Therefore they add a note to disregard the springlocks section as to not bring attention to what’s the deal with the rotting corpse bunny. This is a side note but why would any of this be mentioned by “The Week Before”? As I’ve clarified this is a FNAF3 product so it has nothing to do with FNAF1. It’s a fake memorabilia created by Frights after Fazbear Entertainment has been shut down for years. Frights is a third party company trying to spin off FE but are not actually Fazbear’s.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

​@@molamola9723 The reason I bring up The Week Before is that I really don't see the logbook being something Fazbear's Fright Management would've done. I do GET the idea you're proposing, but there's nothing to actually suggest it. It's pure speculation based on the simple fact that the office from FNaF 3 appears in the logbook which would definitely be weird if, let's say, the logbook took place during FNaF 1 or something--but of course that has it's issues because of the FNaF 4 and SL references. Also, Fright Management wouldn't know about the Springlock suits--or at least they wouldn't care about it enough to put a warning note in the book so that employees know not to talk about them. If that were the case, why would Phone Dude play vintage audio tapes that go into in-depth detail about the suits? If they cared about keeping the springlock suits "on the down low", I don't think they would've used one in their attraction. Even Fazbear Entertainment came to the conclusion that the suits were too unsafe so they retired them. As for the corpse part; judging on Phone Dude's attitude (and, if you take the books at face value--I.E. "What We Found"), they don't even realize there's a corpse in there. They just think they found a gnarly old animatronic for their attraction. As for why I bring up "What We Found", the people who bring Springtrap into the attraction in that story don't even really notice the corpse within the suit. Another point to make; Michael references FNaF 4 when the Logbook is talking about "recent" dreams. Personally I think it makes sense that FNaF 4 takes place pretty soon after FNaF 1 because Shadow Freddy follows Mike home, and if we say that the Logbook takes place nearer FNaF 3 then that doesn't really line up--FNaF 4 wouldn't be "recent" for Michael. But under MetaLogbook it makes more sense.

[@zetorocks811]

This is good and all but why would William ask Mike after he was trying to kill him for a week 😭😭😭 however I do like Mike’s speech happening after FNaF 3 so that Mike setting up happiest day fits with his speech “only one thing left for me to do now”

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

You know a lot of people have asked this one and I think people kind of misunderstand something about that. William "asks" Michael to go to Sister Location. It's different from "telling". If Michael was subservient to William, William would just order him to go down there. But instead he "asks" Michael if he can do it. Why would Michael go down there though? Well because it's his sister. As we see in the movie, Michael's only real interest is helping his siblings; I.E. Garret and Abby. I think that translates to the games as well, hence why he tries to help the Crying Child and Cassidy in the Logbook (I.E. the whole "My Name" thing.) Michael didn't go down there for William's sake, he went down there for Elizabeth.

[@chilledtea904]

One thing- I might be misremembering, but isn’t springtrap unable to speak because of the spring locks in his jaw? We only hear him speak in FFPS, which it’s suggested that he repairs his suit between 3 and FFPS, restoring his function to speak.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

Interesting idea but actually not quite. We see Springtrap talking in FNaF AR, and he also speaks in The Twisted Ones. Springtrap not talking in FNaF 3 is just because Scott didn't really incorporate voice acting for characters until later in the series.

[@Invalidcookie-bv4cx]

I have a theory that we even play as Mike in FnaF 4. William (who I think is William? in Midnight motorist) Didn't want Mike leaving the house by breaking and climbing through the window. What would be the best way to make sure he stays in his room? He would make him believe that there were monsters outside. Also, this would be a fitting punishment for what he did to his brother. It could be C.C. But i think it's Mike.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

It's pretty much confirmed that we do play as William (I have a video on MM if you wanna learn more about that), but I don't think Mike was put into an experiment chamber. FNaF 4 is Mike having nightmares caused by Shadow Freddy after Shadow Freddy follows Mike home after FNaF 1 (I also have a video about that lol.)

[@Multiversevideosbyalex4732]

Here’s my theory: I think SL takes place in 1987 during the week of FNAF 2 and that William dismantled the Whitereds a little bit more in the “Save Them, You Can't" mini game and collects some of the remnant and puts it the funtimes. William noticed they were full of vengeance when they came to life so William was worried about the other animatronics at the pizzeria coming to kill him so he took the day shift and told Michael to go find his sister (basically killing him) Jeremy Fritzgerald works for 6 nights, William (going as Dave Miller) works the day shift causing the DCI to happen and vanishes, Michael gets scooped, & the bite of 87 happens. After Michael comes back he tells William that the spirits were there, Elizabeth is free, and he’s going to find William and the last time Michael talked to William was that he was working at Freddy’s. So he went as a fake alias named Fritz Smith and got fired for tampering with the animatronics and odor.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

I don't think so personally, we see the Withereds in FNaF 2's gameplay and we know they are eventually repurposed for the Classics for FNaF 1. If William dismantled them for their Remnant in Save Them they wouldn't have been walking around during the actual game. Plus, at the beginning of Sister Location HandUnit tells us that Circus Baby's Rentals opened after the closure of Freddy's--now you COULD say it's referring to FNaF 2, but we know that Freddy's opens after the fact because of FNaF 1.

[@Multiversevideosbyalex4732]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101that is true but I feel like he took some of their remnant because in the books didn’t Carlton have some of the kids remnant in him and that’s how he interacted with them before telling the truth about William. (I haven’t read the books😅) but with HandUnit talking about the closure of Freddy’s, I think he’s referring to the 1st location where the MCI happened. I wish we could’ve gotten a year for when the closure happened but that’s a theory for another day 😂. Enjoyed the video dude can’t wait to hear more theories

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching :D

[@loganBolfcraft64]

From what we see happiest day was a marionette thing, Michael didn't do anything with it. I personally believe that afton told Michael about the dunker and baby before William left for his costume, after William didn't come back Michael went to the bunker

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

My issue with Marionette and Happiest Day is that there's nothing actually suggesting the Puppet setup Happiest Day. Yes, you play as a Puppet sprite in the Happiest Day minigame, but all the other minigames have to do with stuff relating to the Crying Child specifically. I briefly pointed it out through a pop up in the video, but it's worth noting that the way you "activate" the secret minigames is by interacting with the world around you. The PLAYER does that, not the Marionette. William couldn't have told Michael about the bunker prior to going back for his suit, like I said in the video there's a period of time that passes between William's death and SL. We know that the Funtimes are rented out for parties and, like I mentioned in the video, it doesn't make sense for William to send Michael down there if he really doesn't have a need to (I.E. the fact that he can influence the animatronics.)

[@loganBolfcraft64]

@TheDoctorIsIn101 why would William tell Michael to go to the bunker in he middle of killing him?

[@loganBolfcraft64]

@TheDoctorIsIn101 like "hey son I know I am trying to kill you and all, but can you do me a favor and go to this bunker under the house and fix your sister? Thanks"

[@loganBolfcraft64]

@TheDoctorIsIn101 and the log book, it was given to Mike during fnaf 3, how would he know about Classical bongos exhaust Butters and the money basket.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

​@@loganBolfcraft64 As for why Springtrap would tell Mike to go to the bunker after FNaF 3, it's really not that complicated. William can't go back there as Springtrap; he can't just waltz on into the building as a rotten bunny man, it's still a functioning company/facility as we see in SL. People forget the wording of Michael's speech a lot--William didn't actually TELL Mike to go down there, he ASKED Michael. There's a grammatical difference. But yeah, why would Michael abide by that? Well it's not because he wants to help his father, he wants to help his sister. He would've went down there in order to help Elizabeth. This fits with Mike's character, we even see it in the FNaF movie. Michael isn't really interested in helping the other spirits, he only wants to save his siblings; I.E. his younger brother and sister. There's something called "MetaLogbook" which is basically a theory that implies that the Logbook itself doesn't actually take place at a particular moment in time. The "Meta" would imply that it's actually an outside universe thing meant to serve as a puzzle for us (the readers) to solve (I.E. the whole "My Name" mystery.) It sounds weird, but it actually does have merit. For starters, if the Logbook is a Fazbear Entertainment item WHY is the FNaF 3 office the one depicted in the Logbook? FNaF 3 wasn't a Fazbear Entertainment thing, it was setup by a bunch of people that wanted to make a horror attraction based off those old spooky stories surrounding the brand. Furthermore, why would Cassidy and the Crying Child be conversing via a logbook of all things? Yeah they're ghosts, but since they ARE ghosts they should be able to just communicate like the other ghost children do. While I do think Mike is the FNaF 3 Guard, I don't think the logbook itself takes place at a certain time nor place. However, I do think "Foxy being depicted as the Nightguard" and the logbook featuring the FNaF 3 office could still be used as evidence for Mike being the Fazbear's Fright guard.

[@Invalidcookie-bv4cx]

Do you remember the line from Phone Guy in one of the games? "Someone used one of the suits, The yellow rabbit one" I thats when Follow me takes place. Just a feeling.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

Nah, can't be. That's in FNaF 2, Follow Me happens after FNaF 1.

[@longfishy]

This video has some good points in, but the theory itself is fundamentally flawed. If Mike met his father in FNAF 3 and saw him in the suit that was described as the suit the killer used for both the MCI and DCI, surely he would finally realise that William caused them? My point being, if Mike knew William was a killer when he went into the bunker, why would he then sound faithful to his father in the sister location speech? 'I did it. I found it... Just like you asked me to.' He wouldn't. That's why, unfortunately, this placement of sister location is wrong, and it does indeed take place between FNAF 1 and 3.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

I get the point of that, but I think people are also missing something else. I brought up in the video that it fits Mike's character to only really be interested in helping his siblings; we see that in the movie with Mike, Garret, and Abby. I don't think Mike would've went down there for William's sake. He would've went down there to help his sister. There's a key distinction between "telling" and "asking", which I think a lot of people don't realize. If Mike was subservient to William, he wouldn't have "asked" Mike to do it. It would've just been a direct order. Like I pointed out in the video, it also doesn't make sense for William to ask Mike to go down there if William is still alive by the time of SL or even before it.

[@longfishy]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 Understandable, but if you are using this point to reinforce your timeline, you're missing the point. Mike sounded eager to please William in the speech (at least at the start anyway), and post FNAF 3 he wouldn't have been as he would have figured out William was the killer. So SL can't happen after FNAF 3.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

To each their own. My issue with that is that it's an argument entirely based on what you think the tone of voice is--and that's something entirely subjective. The idea of Michael wanting to please his father is something really only based on speculation; the only child of the family that's shown to actively want to serve William is Elizabeth/Circus Baby, not Mike. To me, personally, it matters more what's being said and the actual action taken. If Mike was subservient to William, why would he burn Fazbear's Fright down with Springtrap inside? If you think Mike is the FNaF 3 guard. Or, even if you don't think he is, William tries to kill Mike in FNaF 6. In the same speech that you're saying Mike is eager to please his father, he also vows to hunt his father down. There's a characterization paradox there.

[@IsntTed]

Just found your channel last night and gotta say W voice. No homo but it's actually soothing fr

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

Thank you! I don't think my voice sounds that amazing, but I'm glad you think so : )

[@monstrdog7031]

Its an interesting theory, but im not seeing how follow me cant be after mikes shift at fnaf1. The metal of the classics only need to be melted down to inject into the funtimes, not to make them. If sl is after fnaf3, why would mike say hes going to go find William if he doesn't even know if he survived the fire. It makes more sense to me if william just disappears (gets springlocked and sealed) and mike goes to try and hunt him down.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

Well, Follow Me IS after FNaF 1--just after the place closes. We see Afton dismantle the animatronics in FNaF 3, but we don't see the animatronics with their endoskeletons in FNaF 3. He took the metal back to his bunker after dismantling them and melted down the metal, kinda like how he does in The Fourth Closet. As for the latter question, it depends on when you think Springtrap would've asked Mike to go down there (if you consider what I propose in this theory.) He could've asked prior to the fire or before it. It also depends on if you think Mike even caused the fire or if it was just faulty wiring. Mike doesn't have any reason to want to find his father after FNaF 1/Follow Me, between FNaF 1 and FNaF 3 he has absolutely no contact with his father. At THAT point he doesn't know if William is even alive, but when he sees him in FNaF 3 THEN he'd know.

[@monstrdog7031]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 I usually go with Mike having some kind of contact with will right up until follow me, maybe even telling him to go down the day before he gets springlocked. Perhaps they even died simultaneously. Mikes death, and possibly the kids memories from their remnant or being with ennard, show Mike the truth and he vows to hunt will down, not even knowing he's also undead until FNAF 3

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

Them dying simultaneously doesn't really work I think. William dismantles and uses the Remnant from the Classics and that at least happens over the course of a few nights. If Follow Me and SL were THAT close, we wouldn't see Ballora and Funtime Freddy moving on Night 2; or Funtime Foxy on Night 3. I'd say there IS a passage of time that happens after Follow Me; the animatronics are rented out for parties, and Circus Baby mentions at the end of the game how "they always put us back inside", inferring that A) They've tried escaping before or B) She's referring to the fact they're rented out but always end up here. Either way, it's implied that they've been down there awhile.

[@SuspectBah]

Sl has to be 83, it was before Mike visited any other fnaf sites, and we know sl is when he gets injected with remnant and the fun times takes over him. Also, it was before the mci. Gigi horror channel has a great video on the timelines, it’s a long lore vid, but it’s really good

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

Sl CAN'T be 1983. Michael wouldn't be old enough to work at any location, and we know he did apply to work at Circus Baby's. The "odor" and tampering pink slips from FNaF 1 and 2 really aren't that concrete of evidence as much as people actually think they are. The Funtimes (minus Baby) are haunted by the MCI, so it couldn't have been before 1985 either.

[@SuspectBah]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 I meant 85 not 83, dk why I put 83. Also, they are nit haunted from the mci, William used remnant from the whithered animatronics to make them like that. And yeah the odor thing is bad evidence, it’s just him tampering with the animatronics, but it had to happen before fnaf 2 and 1 because Mike would not come back unless he had a reason

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

@@SuspectBah The MCI are in the Withereds. The Withereds are the animatronics you see in FNaF 1, FNaF 2 takes place in 1987 and FNaF 1 is in 1993. Mike works at FNaF 1 after being called there through his dreams to find out more about what happened to his brother. The reason SL has to happen after FNaF 1 is because we see Afton dismantle the animatronics in FNaF 3's minigames; that's when he uses their metal to make the Funtimes.

[@SuspectBah]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 Fnafa one was in 1992, because the minimum wage was the same as 1992. Also, your theory of him dismantling the animatronics for the fun times can’t be true, Elizabeth died at a very young age, after Charlie and before the mci, meaning baby and the others had already been built

[@SuspectBah]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 also, I must mention how civil you are about this. Some people get really rude for no reson

[@fnaf-ology]

Babe wake up TheDoctorIsIn just posted

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

:D

[@piratebones9641]

I was really ok with this but then i though, SL can't be after 3 because of the lockbook, the lockbook happens after SL and makes references to 3 with things like the office layout in the first page of every night and the images of chica in a laptop and dabing set a year placement of the 2010s

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

There's a little bit of a misconception with the logbook, although to be fair it's up to your interpretation. For starters, the logbook itself might not actually be a physical thing that exists in-universe. The logbook is pretty meta with some of it's references, such as the FNaF 3 office being depicted. If the logbook was something that Fazbear Entertainment made, why would it have the FNaF 3 office when FNaF 3 takes place during a period where Fazbear Entertainment had no active business? Also, within the games and books, the logbook is actually never referred to. The Week Before recently came out and it gives us a lot of insight into the attitude of employees and how the company operates; but the Logbook is never mentioned. Again, if it was something the company gave out actively, why hasn't it ever been brought up again? Also the logbook itself is an activity book for children; it has word searches and whatnot, not anything an actual guard would take part in.

[@piratebones9641]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 because is not from Fazbear's, is from the same people that make the horror attraction, all the fazbear references are things they been picking up while searching for props to put in fazbear's frights, and seen all the drawings that Mike made before the book got to us I feel confident in saying the lockbook does exist in universe, how else could fazbear llc have nightmare Fredbear's appearance in help Wanted

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

@@piratebones9641 Idk where people have been getting that the logbook would've been something from Fazbear's Fright, that doesn't make sense. The logbook makes direct references to stuff like the springlock suits; there's a specific page that brings up the springlock suits but a yellow note has been placed on it telling anyone who reads the book not to talk about the springlock suits. We know Fazbear Entertainment retired the suits because they were too dangerous and that they told people not to talk about them; why would the people who made Fazbear's Fright care about that? They don't know anything about that, and they just throw Springtrap into the attraction. Oh, and also, on the very first page of the book when you open it we see that Mike has written in his name it--but there's yellow note that says something like, "Oh, looks like somebody else owned this! You don't mind, right?" If the logbook was something done by the Fazbear's Fright team, why would it be something that's apparently given out after FNaF 3 burns down. FNaF 3's location wasn't an official company venture, it was made by people just interested in the spooky mystery of Freddy's. The Nightmare Fredbear thing in Help Wanted doesn't really work either. We also see Nightmarionne in Help Wanted, Ennard, and the other Nightmares in it as well. The logbook wouldn't have anything to do with Fazbear Entertainment knowing about all that.

[@piratebones9641]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 actually, I should direct you to where I pick it up originally, don't want to misrepresented the theory, sire squaks "the fnaf book may be written in universe" or it may be "the unexplored absurdity of the saferooms" or maybe I'm misremembering, I'm sure sire wouldn't mind having a discourse about this topic so you could contact him or something

[@KanadzuMirikoo46]

Nice video 😁 Sry if this sounds rude but I've noticed so many fnaf tubers and pvz tubers with speech impairments IDK if my knowledge of english got better so I destinguish them better of its a new wave hahhahs (nothing wrong with it) ❤

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

No worries! Thanks for watching! I know what you mean, I definitely have a lisp. Recording these theory scripts tends to be difficult, I often stumble over my own words or have to re-record lines because of my speech issue. So your support is greatly appreciated!

[@justaredhead154]

'Here before the video blew up' button -->

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

Welcome

[@alexs7670]

One thing to say is that presumably the toy animatronics are still around. Where's mangle at?

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

Nope! They were scrapped after FNaF 2 which takes place in 1987, they're long gone.

[@ZAWGREAL]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 so their soulds are just scrapped?

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

@@ZAWGREAL Their souls are freed after the animatronicd are scrapped.

[@ZAWGREAL]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 wouldnt they have discovered the bodies. and if afton was the one who scrapped them wouldn't he take the bodies/remant from them?

[@alexs7670]

@@ZAWGREAL this is why I don't think the toys are truly possessed (except maybe mangle)

[@Parziphone]

Good theory ❤

[@MandoGarcia-f2z]

Will you go live today Edit:never mind lol

[@daigustosanti]

I think the odor kills your theory

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

This is a common misconception. The Odor thing from FNaF 1 and 2 doesn't really work as well as people think it does. For starters, FNaF 1 takes place before Sister Location does--that much is true. Yet Mike gets fired for Tampering and Odor in that game before even becoming a walling corpse. The same applies to FNaF 2.

[@lwes4]

na you condensed to much and assume that log 223 mean year 2023 whn most likly just log 223 games starting with sister location problay happen in year they come out since scot went out og his wat to clarfie that fnaf 3 took place in year it came out in security log book

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

It's much simpler for 223 to mean 2023, it would be arbitrary to think otherwise. The games taking place during the years they release wouldn't work, FNaF 2 takes place in 1987 and FNaF 3 takes place thirty years after Freddy's closed.

[@lwes4]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 yes 30 years after the first Freddy closes 1985 with the missing children's instant which would be 2015 which is when FNAF 3 comes out. And the date that the security log book points to when you look for the real value of the coupons.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

@@lwes4 30 years after the MCI is weird though. FNaF 3 is "thirty years after Freddy Fazbear's Pizza closed it's doors", but if we say it's referring to the 1985 location then that's ignoring the two other locations that opened after the fact. Freddy's stopped being an active restaurant after FNaF 1, not the 1985 location.

[@lwes4]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 it is weird but the real value code in the security log book points to it being the right date. And considering the inconsistencies about when FNAF security breach is it actually helps for it to be around 2015. We know a possible birthday for Vanessa and that birthday would not line up with many timelines because they will use the the 223 number to imply that it's 2023 and then make the assumption that it's going to have security breach takes place in the 2030 or 2040. However if the games take place around the year bad birthday that was presented now works

[@spudsbuchlaw]

Why are you encouraging death threats bro

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

It's a joke, I don't actually expect people to do that. But it also isn't unheard of. Unfortunately there's FNaF Fans that are maybe "overly" passionate. It's happened before.

[@Freshly_Baked1234]

Yeah but you didn’t solve it. Nowhere in the title does it “suggest” that you think you solved it.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

That's called clickbait because it's better for the algorithm. It's really the only way for videos to do well on KZbin nowadays. Every theorist does it.

[@username_KATFAN92]

first onee