I Spectated A Silver Venture Who Thought They Were Masters In Overwatch 2

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[@NewEspana]

how did you comment 7 hours ago

[@Leoisback7]

@@NewEspanacreators of the video can comment early before putting video in public

[@gotohyoshihisa3971]

Spectating Bronze poggers

[@I_am_a_cat_]

Make more spectating videos. Watching you just play OW every day gets boring. It's always the same thing, and we all deal with that enough as it is in our own games. It's nice hearing you talk about stuff in this, instead of just "SHOOT THE TRACER! TRACER TRACER TRACER, GOT HER, MONKEY MONKEY MONKEY" It gets old.

[@FrowningWind213]

@@I_am_a_cat_ womp womp

[@Mattriix]

"I play Support and DPS" Yeah you can definitely see the Support part of their brain using their abilities more for movement than damage

[@thatonedude675]

That was true for the first half but then university hit and dude’s just pressing buttons at that point.

[@nailinthefashion]

@@thatonedude675it makes me physically wince when I can tell it’s a random push lmao

[@CosmiccNova]

It's so funny because I main support and do the same thing on Venture

[@hauntedonigiri]

I'd probably do the same if I played them then lol, I'd use it like Moira fade

[@porkiousttv]

@@CosmiccNovasame, been on a Lucio arc for three seasons and noticed the frog habits carried over

[@maknaegoose3227]

That Moira jumping off the map to kill echo was felt by every single Moira main ever

[@Greenbean4201]

Ur definitely bronze

[@brynfarwell0720]

@@Greenbean4201most moira players play moira for a reason 😂

[@Rocky_Module]

I can see the difference between Emongg and Flats when there coaching, Flats is more of a "im not gonna sugarcoat it" and tells you straight to your face while Emongg goes for the more "what value would your ability have if you would have used it" and they both go in depth, just in different ways

[@Rocky_Module]

Also, this bread guy does the same thing as me, he's always constantly jumping around and making it harder for him and enemies to hit him

[@lian7092]

it's easyer to get hit when ur midjump

[@Eadwulf_Skald]

The main difference besides what you said is that Flats started this vod stuff with the idea of roasting people, it says so in the discord description. Emongg does it because it makes cool content and he's nice enough to give advice during it.

[@Rocky_Module]

@@Eadwulf_Skald i forgot abt that part

[@Rushi486]

@@Eadwulf_Skald Oh that kinda explains it. I wasnt a fan of how he absolutly rips into lower rank players while in his gameplay videos he does the exact same things they do but it seems i missed the point

[@bobgumkowski9595]

As a wood level player, this has been very valuable for making tiny positive changes to my venture gameplay

[@JustAregularnimator]

your in wood!?? i'm stuck in cardboard V

[@wiruluff2472]

@@JustAregularnimator I wish I was in cardboard im hard stuck in Sand 3

[@Queenofthebifauxnen]

you guys got out of v̵̢̫̘̼̦͚̈̇̅́ ̷̳̗͈̪̪̣̼̟͕̏̀̄ỏ̸̢͓̥̰̹͔̜ ̴̧̹̜͐̿̾̌i̸̠̭͙̠͐͗̈́̾̄͒͒́̚ͅ ̶̡̎͗̽́d̶̢̛͓̤̪͍͖̑͝ͅ ?

[@phnx]

improper cooldown usage aside, my brain can't fathom this person thinking they deserve higher than silver 3 when they can't land any venture left clicks and constantly lose track of where the enemies are, peak delusion

[@thecupofbrew7955]

Surprised they're silver tbh

[@SinisterTFM]

i can’t believe i’m the same rank as this person on dps 😭 im silver 1 and i AT LEAST can hit my shots

[@navinanase]

Got carried to silver prolly

[@destructo3457]

@@SinisterTFM Yeah but you probably have the mechanical skill and awareness of a peanut, reason why you're in Silver

[@Luciferthekingofpurgitory]

@@destructo3457or they just got unlucky which is a massive factor in ranks when there’s hackers leavers throwers people who should be in bronze 5 but somehow got into silver people who should be in gm 1 but somehow got into silver etc

[@AnthonyOnPatrol]

He tore this dude to shreds my lord LMAO

[@owenglaus2609]

I think IT was a bit much lmao. All dude said was he shoud be in gold or sum. Flats must of woke up on the wrong side of the bed

[@catdaddie3569]

@@owenglaus2609 idk man he didnt JUST say he should be in gold, he also said his teammates all sucked and the only reason he was in silver was bc of them and that he felt he played at the level of his masters duo so.. kind of deserved

[@Welpidk]

It’s crazy to me that 90% of the time when they burrow they immediately just charge jump out. Not even moving around or looking for a better opportunity.

[@ChairmanMao08]

Agreed, venture allows you to do plenty of cheeky flanks which works really well

[@requiemshade1558]

Agreed, someone's I think they are trying to take high ground. But..... Metal ranks

[@cheekyklaude3366]

Losing that Baptiste 1v1 was wildin 😂

[@yorimz8807]

I know, in 10:27 when he charges, bap litellary dodges all of his shots and the charge. he kinda got owned

[@davidrzvn]

Looks like the type of guy that type gg ez at the end of the match

[@nailinthefashion]

This the EXACT kind of person who says that to which I always say lol or >.> or “right….”

[@biscoito-zero]

I had a fight with a soldier yesterday and he literally runaway from me after a few seconds, he literally gave his back to me and run. We lost and he sent ezz on chat... Is that a rule for the winner? 😅

[@beck7326]

I could really use a hug right now

[@biscoito-zero]

@@beck7326 hey man.. fell hugged :) And wish you the best teammates also

[@musicmaniac8787]

I see the EZ I hit 'em with "your mom's ez" gets it every time.

[@unmatchedjay8513]

as a plat venture, keep this -person in silver please lol "if your mechanics are really this terrible, shoot the floor" LMAAAOOO

[@PeaceBear16]

As an aspiring venture main I actually didn't drill dash underground except to rush outta spawn faster cuz I thought the damage on it was negligible, but this is helping me get the more utility aspect of it, nice

[@Wrath31590]

it does what like 20 dmg? which is negligible by itself, BUT, it also applies the dps passive to a, possibly, wide group of enemies since it's hitbox is massive, and it has a substantial boop which can disorient people.

[@wowRichtoad]

And it gives shield, so when you pop out you're safer.

[@RemedieX]

​I believe it's 5 DMG. But it applies the passive and it boops + it's just free value to use burrow to drill immediately because you can get the drill back by the end of burrow and it pressures the enemy team to not ignore you while allowing your team to push it when you're charging. It's pretty easy to follow up with Ven ​@@Wrath31590

[@doubledougy8875]

I like it when he says, “ I have a goodie for you”

[@Haonnn]

4:19 whenever people on my team jump off either on accident or on purpose. I always do the same as a meme. (Quick play) but the vent looked genuinely surprised he fell off 😭😭

[@VyzrYT]

I wish that you did more of these, it feels now it’s just when there is a sponsor. I miss the old roasting bronzes everyday.

[@nailinthefashion]

Greedmaxxing lol

[@salvatore2004]

real

[@gilotyna815]

yeah no shit this is his job. and he explained at length numerous times why he took a long break from spectating bronzes and doesn't like it as much as originally.

[@salvatore2004]

@@gilotyna815 fats defender

[@athena-love]

@@nailinthefashion ah yes, doing his JOB his greedy.

[@ZaWrldo]

"The reason it felt like your teammates didnt suck was because you were the sandbag" lmao

[@elektro8808]

I feel good about my venture gameplay after hearing Flats tell the same techs to the guy as the ones i do

[@sidar87]

Flats: I'm not trying to be mean By the end of it Flats: YOUR LICENSE TO EXIST EXPIRES TODAY

[@nathanpray6279]

What kills me is him constantly jumping especially during his ult cause that means for those few seconds you can’t take a shot

[@fuegoberry3093]

This is why I get so confused on how to get good on a character in ow2. I look at one guide that says to use ventures burrow to leave/disengage from a fight and use drill to engage while flats is say to use burrow and drill to engage, Its confusing sometimes

[@trealelizabeth9176]

You gotta find t500/gm players who make the vids. I usually go into a t500 streamers twitch live and ask the chat which channels they would recommend for a certain character. I get good answers and if someone recommends a bad player the rest of chat will point it out

[@sublimedhaze7792]

Stop listening to guides and play the game. Fail, adapt, find what works for you and your playstyle.

[@Casino220]

The overwhelming majority of supposed guides are basically trash and put out by players somewhere between Masters and Gold, especially for any new or recently changed hero or meta. Actual high level players compare playing adventure to playing half health ball or old doomfist for a reason. You either position evasively in the first place and just shoot things and take zero damage back or you use buttons to hard commit for a kill so you don't need to run away.

[@navinanase]

You won't learn a thing reading a guide! You need to play the character to get used to it.

[@everquestonline1600]

It’s not cute and try usually you want to engage sometimes you’ll need to disengage. The trick of being good is picking the right move more often then not.

[@AnimeOtaku56.]

7:35 can we stop calling high burst damage 1 shots. 1 shots are a very specific thing. 1 button press = death. The only true one shot is widow scoped in and ults like tire, bomb, doom ult center etc. is cass tapping your head 2 times a one shot? No, so why is venture using 4 buttons a 1 shot. It’s better to say insta kill you couldn’t react to it. Even junkrat had to press 3 buttons to get his insta kill and people called that a one shot. It just takes away from the fact that true one shots, outside of ults, are too oppressive. Even 2 shots are a bit boring to deal with if there is very little counterplay.

[@ThwipBoi]

I live for these vids where Flats is just Gordon Ramsay for OW 😭

[@brutezreborn]

When Flats says "...WHAT HAPPEN?" It reminded me of Shaggy from Scooby-Doo. I was honestly expecting the sentence to be 'What happen Scoobs?!'.

[@zora508]

I love how a lot of people say venture is an easy character and this is probably how they play

[@QuarianGuy]

Not gonna lie I also didn't do the drill underground + dash combo that much, I should make a habit of doing that. I figured it'd be like committing too much with Doom but yeah.

[@noruba]

nope, just use your dash right after burrowing and burroe the whole duration, think of it like reaper fade, where you rarely ever cancel it early

[@Hoodini2253]

I figured it out pretty fast on day one before watching any videos and I barley even play the game, it’s just common sense

[@QuarianGuy]

@@Hoodini2253 Not if you make a habit of playing Doom. With him committing with your movement cooldowns often gets you killed.

[@karamei]

Dash has a shorter cd when used underground in this way

[@WizendSquirel-ws5tm]

Dang I miss these. You should do more this season if you think Tank and comp are so bad at the moment. I know I'd probably watch them more than play the game right now.

[@theflare9557]

i've played with a low masters named frosty, dude was such a little shitter and started blatantly throwing after being called out for focusing too hard on DPSing while on support.

[@trealelizabeth9176]

I just played a game where both my supports were too focused on dpsing and I was behind a corner letting auto heal do it's thing for half the game. My Moira actually switched to Mercy and shot nonstop without healing at all and the other support left the game near the end I wish they would use ai in their rank system and put these people in their own games

[@RealmKeeper]

Bro reported that dude for a pun 💀

[@tevinslawson]

Mans should start with lowering his sens a little oh my

[@Erwin0550]

4:30 That comment was so deserved lmaooo

[@nailinthefashion]

Tweedle Dee and tweedle dumb vibes

[@nathanwinters2400]

I wish some of the Ventures that chase me had this kinda aim xD

[@MrNobodyNR]

"i deserve to be plat" WTF is this guy on about? huge mechanics issue even for silver, he's trippin

[@SeilingMart]

me personally i climbed out of silver by doing this magical thing called awareness

[@crusader7eth163]

Gotta respect that moira play 💀

[@janaaf8646]

Fr the Moira cooked the venture just trolled tho 😭

[@zelraths]

In the first few minutes I was thinking "huh, they're playing pretty similar to my venture in diamond 2, wonder why they're stuck??" Proceeds to jump off the map by accident 😳, you can even see the panic shake of their mouse 🤣

[@karamei]

That looked intentional to me, they had to hop over the ledge to do it. I assumed they were just memeing with their friend. But with how much this person spams jump and their map awareness, yeah it probably was an accident.

[@zelraths]

@@karamei I thought it was a troll too till I noticed they looked back at the ledge they jumped over, and did the "FUCK" panic mouse shake lol I'm convinced it was an accident 🤣

[@FemboyBlazey]

I’ve been waiting for a venture video yayy. Can’t wait to see what’s in store. Ps really fun good vids as always

[@orangut4ng]

I'm resisting the programming, GRAHHH! I can't say it.. 12 views.... GRAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!.. 0 comments..... RAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!... Flats fell off.

[@fatgumthegoat]

literally the only funny version of this joke

[@tireiron33]

GET OUT OF MY SKIIIIIIIIN

[@-dolsen-]

Get help

[@exoduspeanut6843]

Stay in the box!

[@bleachigo990]

@@fatgumthegoatwrong

[@RoniDraws]

the commentary for this one reminded me of the guy cooking a steak with dark seasoning and saying "not its not dirt grow up"

[@AnimeVampire234]

love how brutally honest flats is with his reviews of pplz gameplay.

[@psigreen3864]

what's that character in your pfp? it looks familiar

[@Camophlo]

I thought my pc was crashing at 1:52 LMAO

[@courtneyvazquez1447]

I think the thing with drill dash is that at first, even for me it looked useless, bad damage, and though it had the same cooldown. Now I know that it has half cool down so I use it more often. Just some food for though

[@ErrantMinds]

Oh good...Im not the only person that frozen screen bug has happened to. Ive had it happen twice but I thought it was my computer.

[@Minthe_tea]

spectating a venture spectating a silver (prolly higher) game

[@ryanames4168]

the beginning of the vod i thought it was my phone😭😭😭

[@tylerclyde1066]

I was the cass/widow/mei here, fun game and ty for the compliment :D

[@WeebSenpai2431]

unrelated but gotta love the Pokemon colosseum music in the background at around 8 minutes

[@greghahn8337]

So I'm a Venture main too, stuck in bronze (but deserved, I suck, whatever...), but I know my main issues. I do the cooldown/combos you talk about correctly (for the most part...no one is perfect). My main problem is my left clicks. What's the best way to practice that? Just queue up for quick plays and focus on the left clicks? Practice range doesn't do much for me since the targets aren't moving erratically like in real matches. Really just helps me practice my combos. I WILL focus a little more on trying to hit their feet now that you said that...never thought about it, but makes sense since her attack explodes.

[@thedr.pepperknight4398]

THE FLIRT INTRO IS BACK BABY

[@Foggen]

The sudden music stop when they go over the edge

[@yaboyospoons7570]

I'm convinced this person couldn't hit the floor if they threw their hat at it.

[@FoxiestDuck]

The roast feels valid, he had a ego posting this VoD and expected that he wasn't the problem. He's 100% the problem

[@ghostriposte2977]

There was someone in one of my matches pre-nerf who refused to swap off Venture in ranked while we were vsing a pharmercy and I told them “If gravity effected your bullets maybe you’d be getting value.”

[@lordkaoz8294]

flats has a personal grudge against this mf 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@yourgalastral]

i love how it went from ”not bad, not bad” to ”I HOPE YOU LOSE!”

[@Complex_7]

I wonder what the queue time for those games where

[@spoopyboi1882]

bro i thought my laptop froze at the start, holy fuck

[@leximarie2862]

the murder + double suicide off the map is killing me

[@Abgilosby]

Man this had me playing more comp tonight and let me tell you. Let. Me. Tell. You. I am not exactly great, or even good. But I'm really not sure how decent I can be when I'm watching shots phase through enemies. When my Invuln abilities are active on my screen, but the kill came of the person who killed me saw nothing of it. This game is sometimes so hard to play and it feels like the server-client connections are about 40% of what's keeping me from enjoying this game and trying to improve further. The other 60% is god aweful see-saw balancing (about 5%) and 55% players who I think really should not be allowed anywhere outside of the training room.

[@gagthorthegreat6111]

I'd like to submit a replay to flats one day in the hopes it gets reviewed but last time I played comp was season 3 of ow1 where I placed gold 1 then immediately stopped; trying again now and hoping to improve and at least hit diamond

[@karamei]

Go for it! Flats doesn't do as many of these as he used to (or as many as most of us would like, but we get it, it's an ordeal and people have been weirdos about it), so if he doesn't do your review, you could also submit a code to Emongg. Good luck to you!

[@poortast]

Im surprised Flats never told them to drill dash while they were underground. Wouldve been really good advice for the venture. Oh well.

[@woolenwood6145]

4:19 It might be dumb... but that play by the Moira was pretty based ngl

[@sosukageyt]

It’s always the best when yt get a good morning 😁

[@starmoiety]

for a second at the beginning of the vod i really thought it was my youtube 😭 forgot blizzard is a small indie company for a sec

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

When your game sense and mechanics are so silver that the perma jumping is not even a mentionable offense. Spend literally half an hour in VAXTA and rebind jump to a different key and you'll climb to gold EASY. This applies to everyone though, not just this venture.

[@N3kur0666]

Love the content Mr streamer

[@creoleninja58]

As a Zen main, I can confirm that Venture can be a menace.

[@lazarogurgel714]

Me too broother.

[@vornysamoyed6340]

I think the one time this person landed two shots in a row is when they barrel stuff them and shoot the floor

[@mr_thug_penguin]

i play venture extremely different than your advice and this but usually take solo Gravitons to the face. From my experience the dash really should only used to isolate someone and guarantee a kill or force the enemy tank into ur team. The one-shot is only applicable to tracer and widow because in low ranks typically supports just preheal tanks or their duo because they are unaware so you need your cooldowns to get to get health packs.

[@asta-amv7645]

4:05 killed me 😂

[@PurpleMoon799]

there's no way their MASTER friend fell off to chase a kill.. bruh

[@aroidaaric]

Flats!!! Looking sharp

[@jerseysimpson9301]

13:02 What genji was Flats talking about here? If there’s a vid, I wanna see it.

[@rogueisded]

I honestly didn’t have much, if any trouble learning venture. Their play-style clicked for me in my first couple matches and now I main them on DPS. I think it’s because I used to main DPS Doom back in OW1, and cause venture is basically DPS Doom 2.0 everything about how they play just makes sense to me, I even picked up on most of the tech flats is talking about on my own.

[@jlllx]

huh?

[@SeikOsito]

My favorite moments were when they lost sight of the enemy so they just started shooting at teammates

[@okxden]

i think the message was accurate. this was needed even me how doesn't know how to play venture learnt something today. use abilities in a combo. this was needed. and cmon this is bullywatch ofc flats would have the teaching by bullying skill set

[@BigOwl51]

You know it’s gonna be a good video when they talk about how bad their teammates are. I haven’t even finished the first 2 minutes of the video and I already know this person deserves to be stuck in silver

[@requiemshade1558]

Have we considered that they might not know how to use the burrow dash combo?

[@fredo7814]

did he rlly walk into that 15:08

[@ferret7729]

As a hardcore Venture enjoyer and player, I do no understand why when there’s another venture on the other team they always wait until I ult to pop their ult. What’s the phycology of that

[@ozone005]

I have a real question, what do i do after capturing a point? I usually just find myself standing around.

[@iserge_sa]

Depends on which character you’re playing, for short range heroes just set up in a position for the next fight, longer range heroes you should go out and look to do some damage before the fight starts, and reposition later

[@ChairmanMao08]

Been maining venture for some time so I naturally learned their mechanics and stuff. Every time I see him drill dashing away even tho he has full health cringes me to death

[@Honestlypfft]

Love Flats

[@topGnfl]

Venture is a close range at eliminating people.

[@abrawolf]

3:15 so true ram

[@azurewing1284]

Oh my gosh I never noticed. LOL

[@Insomnikitty]

they could not dig that.

[@starshottai2519]

Can we keep that rein movement buff from mirror watch ?

[@LordFlatulence]

Nice hair cut Flats, lookin good.

[@thehypnosisworld]

Hold on… I’m in bronze like two last time I checked and I just did the venture combo naturally… IS THAT NOT A NORMAL THING?!

[@Billy_The_Frog]

They look like they drank too much coffee right before the match. Idk if they are panicking or if their dpi is too high, feels like there is a lot of excessive movement

[@gennSRB]

"This STINKS" lol

[@Filiral]

Hair lookin good, Flats.

[@jorg8888]

Why tf is Flats so convincing on his sponsorships

[@hanticleer1372]

On the mechanical side, it also looks like this person's sensitivity is way too high. They either dont move their screen or they over-shoot their target, sometimes so badly they lose sight all together.

[@vomur]

Their sens is too high, their aim is fidgety

[@vornysamoyed6340]

Brother I’m surprised their silver the way they can’t hit a single venture shot, that shits even got an AoE and their not getting a hit marker

[@Milky_Mercy]

4:11 wtf was that

[@sirfailalotful]

My boy! Nice frames!

[@hyperfeen]

just a note: can we turn down game volume? its quite loud compared to flats

[@mattkdigg1008]

Flats is savage lol. Remind me to submit my vod to emongg 🤣🤣 jk I love this. I’m sending u one

[@takolyfe1078]

bit late I know but for anyone watching it seems like at the beginning they're just copying the enemy venture? They see them underground, oh burrow. Even their first ult, flats was saying they were slow on their decision making but I'm pretty sure the other venture popped their ult then ours just popped hers after because they heard the voiceline. Again, no hate or anything this is just what it seems like