You pushing the wave there was correct 100%, mechanically you made the right choice there, but with randoms as your laners the moment you get pinged off it can be the wrong choice because as many streams have proven- a tilted laner can cause a game to spiral into a lost via trolling or them missplaying due to anger/annoyance
@hyd33344 ай бұрын
I mean, skarner both pinged him and typed to do NOT do it. Why go against it and risk making a teammate of your own turn against you, just an easy way to win.
@zouhairaloui12964 ай бұрын
Unless skarner has TP then he is wrong,
@MittschelSand4 ай бұрын
Skarner didnt have tp, but its right to push it anyway. He would be in a bad spot, because he has to step forward to break the freeze and its obvious for the jungler and if the dies to a gank he loses even more. Even when he pings after that the game only gets harder.
@elderdragon16284 ай бұрын
its the mans lane why touch it without its consent its like not letting a guy take of a knife out of a wound i mean its correct to let it stay in the wound but the man doesnt want that and its HİS wound
@poro89174 ай бұрын
@@elderdragon1628 by that logic a jungler should only gank when asked, which is completely wrong because as a jungler you need to be the playmaker most of the time while your roaming between lanes Quickly pushing a lane that the person would of missed gold and exp and have the lane be in a bad state is something you need to be aware of Yes its the laners lane, but its also the junglers job to make sure their lanes are in a good position for them to make any plays of their own, if top is in a bad position then its always risky to do grubs/herald/baron, and bot in a bad positoon makes dragon risky.
@istrafed40884 ай бұрын
So at 9:00 for the Skarner clip, he had 3 extra mage minions than the opponent. This means no matter what, Skarner’s wave will slow push into the enemy tower while he’s gone, and if the enemy did have TP like he states, you had the right play because it actually pushes a crash rather than allowing the opponent to freeze. Assuming you successfully double wave crashed into his tower, it would push back into Skarner on reset. After analysis; You did the right thing.
@EcoreLoL3 ай бұрын
thank you I KNOW the play itself was right. My question was more "should I just let Skarner get fucked OR help him even if he gets tilted"
@istrafed40883 ай бұрын
@@EcoreLoL lol +1 respect for you actually helping the guy even though he was giving you shit for it
@Zatba4 ай бұрын
the wave would had push to skarner. so it was right for you to push it. Cho had one more minion and it was closer to the blueside which means blue minions will come first to help.
@Zatba4 ай бұрын
9/10 times you should help the laner push the next wave so they can get a free recall. just look after if he have teleport and can hold the wave for a freeze.
@luwunarchy66894 ай бұрын
Hey, listen, having played jungle for years, even if it's the best play and the correct play, if a laner pings you off of lane, just leave. It's never worth tilting your laners, even if you are helping them, they never see it that way and will always blame you if anything goes wrong
@Slayyyaphine4 ай бұрын
And also the unfortunate thing about lower elos is that if you set up plays for them they don't really know what to do with it or ping you to leave like in the video
@HamStrokers-Ejacula4 ай бұрын
You seem way more energetic and positive about League than you did when it came to Hearthstone, I can dig it. Really hope the change in content keeps working out for you!
@huayhuy1724 ай бұрын
Lee Sin really looking different this patch
@deathray66934 ай бұрын
umm. does anyone else see lee sin for most of the stuff?
@0xNe4 ай бұрын
You did the correct play, it was slowpushing into cho, he either tps to not lose minions or doesnt tp and ends up with minions next to his tower so he can freeze, so basically its a choice between forcing tp and not doing it, which then if you gank he has no tp so he loses next wave, when you play jungle you need to be immune to pings and know your gameplay, because following their pings usually gets you in bad position
@sarmonnimuras41384 ай бұрын
Lee Sin ASU goes hard
@vaarka75344 ай бұрын
Haha yes the smite fights are terrifying, especially when your team doesn't prioritize it. Generally, whenever im fighting for dragon (or baron) and the enemy jungler arrived (or any enemy really), I stop attacking the dragon entirely and turn all of my damage towards the enemy. I keep an eye on the dragon in case i need to smite, but if everyone stops attacking the dragon while it still has 1700 HP, nobody can smite it. If we can kill their jungler before bringing the HP down to a smiteable range, then its free. Plus, sometimes they enemy jungler is so trigger happy that when they jump in, theyll prematurely smite because we stopped attacking the dragon. Unfortunately, i often play with teammates who think they should keep attacking the dragon, which often lets the enemy jungler steal it (or even kill me, the jungler). It's just not always something non-junglers think about, and all they know is "kill the dragon". There's nothing worse than an ADC flaming me for not smiting the dragon when the enemy jungler jumps in and is able to combo me uncontested while my ADC continues to just shoot the dragon into smiteable range while I'm CC'd.
@EcoreLoL3 ай бұрын
yeah I do think thats terrible too when the team doesnt play AROUND a steal. Like just pull out the fucking dragon so they CANT steal it like HELLO?!?!?!?!?
@davidpelovic4 ай бұрын
Usually just ping a question mark on the minion wave to see what the laner wants. I usually get a " retreat " or " help " in return. Their lane - They can do whatever the F they want with it :) even if it's the wrong choice. Makes your life as jungler way easier
@saltygipsy80814 ай бұрын
Love the educational style of these
@BeforeDecemberOfficial4 ай бұрын
You did well by crushing the wave in skarner game, he just doesn't get how top works tbh.
@asteriskonline3494Ай бұрын
You are right to break that freeze, on point logic as well. Those players who ping you are just tilted.
@TherealNiqqa4 ай бұрын
4:25 probably my favorite match in the whole series, seeing it on stream is even better
@EcoreLoL3 ай бұрын
it really was an AMAZING game
@diomidis_tz4 ай бұрын
Ayeeee my main nice video man keep it up waiting for thresh :D
@woomyking4 ай бұрын
The goat of LoL KZbinrs ❤❤
@EcoreLoL3 ай бұрын
IDK about that but thank you XD
@hazmatt44334 ай бұрын
Hecarim is a Horse to be reckoned with
@lasicakdandous23774 ай бұрын
0:03 bro wants to be josh hutcherson so bad
@danielcrase3 ай бұрын
He went to my high school, Larry A. Ryle High School. He graduated same time as my older brother, small world!
@xishengwang55164 ай бұрын
Can u put briar in the vote? She’s my main and really fun
@saeed82974 ай бұрын
I just got in a match with hecarim, i was going to learn, what a timing
@deathray66934 ай бұрын
and the viego video will be legendary
@richardmoskalyov85034 ай бұрын
I think it won't matter, becasue chogath isn't known for being a super lane bully, the same way fiora or darius is. Meaning even if he freeze the lane, skarner might still be able to shovel it or just fight him.
@Meox24684 ай бұрын
Still waitibg for sylas brother :) btw love your videos, keep the good work up
@EcoreLoL3 ай бұрын
he will be near the end because he is like Viego. Probably like the BUILDUP video you know?
@noctturne4 ай бұрын
The best build is factually Shojin -> Warmogs -> Overlord -> Zeke's. You could take really anything past Overlord, but you want to get those 3 items as fast as you can.
@minecraftonly80514 ай бұрын
As a hecarim main i can tell you that you are doing great but you have to ult a litle better. Love you content❤
@taham23464 ай бұрын
What was the long pause in uploads for?
@akabr71772 ай бұрын
12:07 That's not accidentally, and shouldn't always be going for the botlane.. their feeding should never make them own the shutdown by default, not to mention that you're playing a hyper carry and one of the most aggressive snowballers in the jungle compared to a scaling apc that just lost a maybe pure 2v2
@tobiasblume88754 ай бұрын
Will you do a tierlist of how much you liked each champ?
@babiniu4 ай бұрын
I think chogath has hard time to make a freeze bcs all of his basic abilities are AoE, so sooner or later he would push that wave on top, also if skarner had tp, he could tp back to push on his own so he would get exp and gold, especially that in jungle u take like 30-50% of minion exp?
@Motakume__4 ай бұрын
Hey, canon you do 10 h yone video pls 🙏
@meowth98549 күн бұрын
Hecarim otp here... i realize this video is 4 months old, but Ionian rush isn't the greatest anymore. Pickaxe + t1 boots, 2 long swords + t1 boots, or dirk + t1 boots is the way to go now. Also a very good warick is very bad when playing hecarim, his ult knocks you out of your ult... so much for "unstoppable".
@goldengauntletgaming68094 ай бұрын
you should do aatrox
@maple75714 ай бұрын
Btw your timestamps are lee sin
@gamerguy51854 ай бұрын
im so confused by lee sin anyone else?
@skyfice41274 ай бұрын
When you push for skarner i dont know if you are wrong or right but i think just let laners creeps how they want in my experience when jgl push my wave it make me angry and same with my teamates
@EcoreLoL3 ай бұрын
I guess but I get more pissed when they DON'T help me push. I mean sometimes junglers don't understand minions and push when they shouldnt but at least the wave resets and I can back... idk though
@Cookiegodlol4 ай бұрын
I didnt know they redesighned Lee sin
@Mulletskin4 ай бұрын
XJ q also cools down your kit
@EirikKampesveenTrnnes4 ай бұрын
Can you do Azir next?
@nourthepr4 ай бұрын
When are u going for udyr?
@satyapn954 ай бұрын
The Akshan at 11:23 xD
@lookingupsidedown5055Ай бұрын
6:54 excuse me how does that connect ?
@marioismagic4 ай бұрын
I miss when the titles said “to prove he’s …”
@MittschelSand4 ай бұрын
Junglers use their time to gank, but they dont have to. If you get a gank just get a bit thankful. Skarner didnt lose anything, he would lose if he didnt push. But i as jungler myself often dont gank them anymore, because if a gank fails or he dies, he flames and rages anyway. Often its better to gank other lanes with a win-condition or farming more to carry yourself. They just take down the whole team if it gets close. They are tanks it isnt even worth to camp.
@drsherifff4 ай бұрын
Zilean Hecarim is a crazy combo
@lestatmusatcamus4 ай бұрын
The right decision was to push the wave, but if the player is pinging to leave it…leave it, lol players are like babies
@EcoreLoL3 ай бұрын
yeah fair enough
@BrendanKush4 ай бұрын
DANTES AT THE START
@earlefinlay36824 ай бұрын
pushing was the correct move but if the laner tells you leave, leave.
@zyzzisme4 ай бұрын
I BEG ON KNEES, PLEASE do a video 10 hours challenge on fizz
@hambernat6444Ай бұрын
I had the same, My first game Hecarim went awesome 10/0/10 A+ enemies surrendered bc I was making so much chaos. Next game I was overconfident and fuked it...
@spyerbrox15184 ай бұрын
can u do zeri next
@DarthLeon24 ай бұрын
It looks like the Cho was a bit late to TP back to lane, so you kinda got away with pushing it there by yourself. I do think think that pushing it was the right call, but Srarner should have stayed and helped to make sure it got all the way in. The wave was in a really awkward spot to just leave, and Skarner is 100% wrong to want to leave it as is.
@Slayyyaphine4 ай бұрын
5:47 apc/mid lane seraphine video in the future?? :D
@dpspheonix64734 ай бұрын
Perfect more Ecore to eat to
@dimosdrop67464 ай бұрын
bars have you not heard of souras ap hecarim build
@Kote_Bandana4 ай бұрын
Imagine bro's face when he realized he need to spend 1680 hours to learn all champions💀
@TheLightOI4 ай бұрын
Waiting for Twisted Fate!
@henripelletier84374 ай бұрын
Video 2 of asking for fizz next!!!
@liufyx4 ай бұрын
It is 100% correct to push the wave because if you didnt do it skarner will have to play hard and force to cs near at the enemy tower and eventually die in ganks, also its random so better not to pay attention even better turn off chat
@bulldozernolan4 ай бұрын
Good fortune
@rasmusnielsen51634 ай бұрын
Seraphine hitting 2 with ult = bigger than Gnar hitting 3 with his xD
@盾子様4 ай бұрын
Do a Kayle in 10 hours video
@ameliaroslyn2 ай бұрын
you need to smite people when you chase them more.
@NathanIgou4 ай бұрын
6:40 fawwk 🦆
@ecsXtendo4 ай бұрын
11:46 u were dead skarner saved ur ass
@Voidlums_4 ай бұрын
Hi 👋
@catsike14574 ай бұрын
Please do rek sai next
@elderdragon16284 ай бұрын
i main top and you dont touch the wave unless if you are told so no matter if its good or bad
@regis95963 ай бұрын
bronzie logic
@elderdragon16283 ай бұрын
@@regis9596 keep getting flamed Lil bro i Said if you dont want to be flamed dont touch the wave its better yo have a behind teammate then a tilted teammate
@krums57834 ай бұрын
Hey what happened with fiddlesticks you did a stream but never released the video.
@Qu1s1t4 ай бұрын
Mate I will remind you every video about evelynn, keep it in mind. :)
@acardo854394 ай бұрын
yo can you play azir because she broken
@External6994 ай бұрын
do volibear
@isky1474 ай бұрын
Do next yone please
@TOEndire2 ай бұрын
Rengar 10 hrs when?
@zigurath21k4 ай бұрын
of course it had to be dantes!!
@kauanjos31994 ай бұрын
Shojin rush on Hecarim is way better
@morninran46334 ай бұрын
do urgot please
@oatakudz6654 ай бұрын
sett when?
@LucasNascimentoS964 ай бұрын
Learn Gangplank in 10 hours with Solarbacca help.
@jojo41054 ай бұрын
first of the day
@b4ljxsh4 ай бұрын
What elo is this guy btw?
@EcoreLoL4 ай бұрын
I was Diamond top but other roles it’s around Plat (hit Emerald off stream though after these videos so my next jungle champions would be higher quality)
@SilverDragonGaming-093 ай бұрын
yeah, Skarner was noob, you were right
@proonchanz-50914 ай бұрын
Nunu pleaseee
@WhoseWho27014 ай бұрын
Can't wait for your in game moments. Do you like latina women?
@ambershangout72264 ай бұрын
Jungler it’s your fault the objectives were unobtainable
@ayoubaitouaaziz4 ай бұрын
😂😂 the first wasn t a hecarip one trick it was dantes with assasin craazzy build
@bobbyflay63793 ай бұрын
So Cho would not have been able to freeze it either way, it would have slow pushed to him. The reason you shove here is to deny XP to the Cho Gath. You made the right play, but explained the wrong reason (if that makes sense). Skarner was incorrect here.
@Hexi414 ай бұрын
try gragas jg i know u played gragas but gragas jg its something very diffrent
@EcoreLoL3 ай бұрын
I played Gragas jungle in my Gragas video XD
@Roman_Trickster4 ай бұрын
Day 1 of asking to learn udyr.
@RicFF134 ай бұрын
We need Udyr.
@bobfake38314 ай бұрын
shojin first is better lmao
@Aamir-r3d4 ай бұрын
Please go aatrox
@holliwoodka4 ай бұрын
kha'zix
@kilonit14 ай бұрын
buy cdr boots almost every single game - have like 6 games without it :D
@EcoreLoL3 ай бұрын
I mean against heavy AD comps or heavy CC comps you can build other boots. Also 6/20 games is still 70% CDR boots
@kilonit13 ай бұрын
@@EcoreLoL Wrong mentality! You are power! you are the CHOSEN ONE! armor? cc? what is the use of that when they are dead?? SLAY YOUR ENEMY! Also pick Nilah please :D Thank yoouuu
@Velferr4 ай бұрын
play naafiri
@maple75714 ай бұрын
2 views in 1 minute bro fell off
@1llusionzz3 ай бұрын
Lmao jungle does get blamed for everything it’s a loveless role