I studied Chinese DAILY for a YEAR (the truth)

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@zephyr84 7 ай бұрын

I think we are our own harshest critics and as a Chinese speaker, I can tell you have a very good grasp of the tones and pronunciation, which means your foundation is much stronger than many other westerners even with one year of learning. I think you should be cognizant that your starting line is somewhat different, since your native language is non-tonal, non-character based (as compared to other Asian students learning Chinese). Keep at it and you WILL have a breakthrough. And perhaps seeking out Chinese language partners in Brisbane is an option since the Chinese population in Australia is pretty large. Rooting for you!

@JackSmith-g1z 8 ай бұрын

我是中文母语者！我觉得你的中文发音已经很标准了，尤其四个声调（阴阳上去）可以分的很清楚，语法也基本没有问题，很厉害🎉加油！很巧的是，我正在学德语和法语，遇到了类似的困境，母语者说话太快了，有好多informal expressions that don’t make sense to me at all，共勉✊

@jordendarrett1725 8 ай бұрын

我是用翻译软件输入的，所以听起来可能很奇怪，但根据 KZbin 上的翻译，你说他的发音非常 "标准"。我从其他 KZbin 频道听说，这通常意味着你并不真正听懂一个外国人的话，而是在 "给他留面子 "什么的。我不是在指责你或说他的发音不好，只是对中文中的 "标准 "一词感到好奇。我妈妈也想学中文，我正在学西班牙语，之后还要学日语，所以作为语言学习者，祝你好运！

@JackSmith-g1z 8 ай бұрын

@@jordendarrett1725并没有这个意思哦，我们甚至还会夸赞一个中国人的普通话发音标准，因为我们会有很多的方言，许多中国人在学普通话时也会遇到困难，比如分不清前后鼻音，分不清n和l等，所以这里的发音标准并没有其他意思，只是说根据普通话的发音规则，他的发音是正确的。谢谢你，也祝你和你妈妈语言学习好运！我也对西班牙语很感兴趣，未来也许也会学习它。如果你妈妈学习中文的过程中遇到什么问题，我很乐意可以帮忙❤

@Roubing-c8e 8 ай бұрын

@@jordendarrett1725他的发音真的很好了，并没有像很多外国人一样声调各种错误。不过即使一些外国人音调错很多，母语者在有语境的情况下还是大概能猜出他们在说什么的，所以不论什么水平说的时候不用害怕。大部分中国人也很少期望外国人面孔的人能讲母语水平的中文，讲的就算不好也不会当面给你面子背后贬低的，比起说给面子，不如说大家都是以鼓励的态度对待正在学习外语的人，我们都有学习英语的经历，每个人都知道学习外语有多痛苦，开口讲多么需要勇气

@Ryobunko 8 ай бұрын

I'm currently learning Korean just only using podcasts and KZbin videos. And I found that repetition of conversation podcast materials really helpful to me. It helps me get familiar with the natural speed of native speakers.

@sethteichroeb5201 8 ай бұрын

Your Chinese level for having learned one year is quite impressive! Keep it up! Personally I find that the most important thing when trying to improve on the fly speech is learning how to think in your target language. One way that I’ve done this is by finding language partners online using an app like Tandem. Practicing your language abilities in the flow of a conversation helps train your brain skip the translation step and think of what you want to say directly in Chinese, even if it’s just text messaging. That and having a practice of reading aloud should help you come a long way! I’ve been learning Chinese for more than 8 years now, so I can say from experience that it definitely gets better! And Chinese is an extremely rewarding language to be able to speak and understand. If you need any help or advice along your Chinese learning journey, I’d be more than happy to help :) 加油！学习的努力总不会白费的！

@languagewhorder 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for showing the real progress of language learning. I´m on month 6 of Japanese and I see all of these ¨polyglots¨speaking so much after such a short time and I´m finding for me it´s definitely not the case. Keep studying, you are doing great and I love your channel.

@erimozata5120 8 ай бұрын

Maybe some are reading scripts or planning beforehand what they wanna say in those videos. :) this is my opinion. Ofcourse there are good hard working polyglots out there but there also many who choose not to broadcast themselves

@Ryobunko 8 ай бұрын

There's another KZbinr called Will Hart who self-studied Chinese to a native level. I really recommend his method 😁

@SimplyChinese 8 ай бұрын

The key difference is Will Hart surrounded himself with lots of Chinese. It’s like he virtually moved to China.

@brekkoh 8 ай бұрын

I found that if I watch cartoons, especially the ones for smaller children 1k ish words is more than enough to keep up with everything going on, and if you use chinese subtitles with the chinese audio, even if you dont get the meaning 100% you'll certainly recognize lots of the characters

@ginktomvideosprods3712 8 ай бұрын

Man, your life is so interesting and inspiring

@denniscatana 8 ай бұрын

Hey mate, I’ve also been learning for 1 year, using Mandarin blueprint and with months of travel sprinkled in there. (3 months here, 2 months there, etc) I felt the same but along the way I’ve changed and adapted my learning to optimize things I’m lacking, but one Suprising thing that helped boost the listening and speaking, was just getting a great teacher (I used italki) 1-3 times a week. after just 2 months it’s radically improved. But I’ve also slowed down my character learning (level 47 in MBP), to 0-5 character a day to focus on immersion, with an emphasis on listening first then reading after. Lots of LINGQ. Lastly, recently I’ve tried 2 new things. Using language apps (super Chinese and hello Chinese) with no pinyin or translations as much as possible and listening before reading. I see it just as a well organized and gamified chunck of immersion content organized by topic, drip feeding compressible input. Mandarin blue prints new pre-blue print course in speaking and listening, also helps a ton, just engraining sentence structure and constant use of common phrases. Soon I’ll hop back into pushing through the regular MBP course, balancing half my time with learning/review and immersion. It seems it just takes time 🤷‍♂️ But.. yea it’s too bad after a year we’re still only here 😂. it’s the slow grind.

@paulwalther5237 8 ай бұрын

I’m on the upper beginner plateau for Korean too. It’s crazy because the lower beginner stuff was super easy and I could say lots of simple stuff after a couple months. But then hit the plateau. 5 years later with almost daily study I’ve gotten better but I still don’t think I’m intermediate. Some languages you just really need people to talk to. I wish I could travel and live in Korea. I’m sure you’ll see a boost if you move to China. If you never get to live there you might hit the same plateau I have 😂. Hopefully not.

@wheresmyeyebrow1608 8 ай бұрын

I’ve been learning for a little over a year and it is extremely slow even when having Chinese friends and (a girlfriend’s) family to talk to. There’s a lot of self doubt and you’re left saying OOOOH a lot after being told what you failed to pick up. Progress is progress however. I used to think that they were speaking too fast, but now I can pick up basically all the words and it doesn’t sound like gibberish. Problem of course is putting those words into meaning and then responding back the right way

@fingerstyledojo 8 ай бұрын

keep it up dude i bet they are proud of you

@Nerubiru 6 ай бұрын

I am learning a foreign language as well (Japanese) and I have been doing it for almost a year. In my opinion, you're doing really well for only one year of study! Few people do not realise how short one year actually is for language study. Even native speakers spend many years of being exposed to the language from birth before they speak their first sentence or start understanding what people are saying.

@bevadevs 8 ай бұрын

dude, you're doing really good!! the old hsk 4 (the one you pointed at) is about an A2 level, and it's what i've seen achive the most ambitious learners (setting aside those who go to china and study chinese daily 8+ hours). you're right about praciticing speaking, i think that will help you a lot, at least i fell like it helps me a lot. if you have the time, try putting 10 to 20min in speaking or writing every day or every other day (one day speaking and the other writing). it doesn't matter if it's just outloud, if it's just by yourself, you will see progress. also, if you wanna watch something that you understand, besides youtube videos graded with hsk levels, you could try watching the first chapter of pepa pig! also, perhaps following an structured course could help you see and feel your progress! in coursera there are free chinese courses of all old hsk levels from beijin's university. i hope some of this can help you. but the most important part is: for real, you're doing great!! cheer up and keep going!!

@Aadrian7 8 ай бұрын

I've been studying Japanese for over 6 years, which makes learning hanzi and pronunciation a lot faster. Curious where I'll be in one year's time given this small "boost", but for now I'll be as realistic as possible and not expect any better than this, which is still impressive to be fair.

@fingerstyledojo 8 ай бұрын

Same. Been studying every day 30-60m (not counting the time consuming Chinese media which i do a LOT when high) for one and a half years, can understand TV dramas pretty well as long as they have subs, and I can read Manhua's while obviously still having to look up words every now and then. I am using Skritter to grind the Hanzi. I CAN NOT RECOMMEND THIS APP ENOUGH. I have mastered Japanese before, that definitely helped a bit, too. All in all, I think Chinese is a lot easier than people think. There is just a lot more to grind (3K characters) compared to other languages which makes it scary, but other aspects like unreasonable grammar rules falling away makes studying Chinese so easy because you can just focus on the grind. I grind whenever I am waiting, shitting, walking, or sitting in the bus. Took HSK3 last December, will do HSK5 or 6 in this years December.

@nonecker7479 6 ай бұрын

Hey which apps did you use to get started?

@fingerstyledojo 6 ай бұрын

@@nonecker7479 I literally answer that question in my comment =)

@nonecker7479 6 ай бұрын

@@fingerstyledojo ah okay my bad. So all you did (besides consuminh chinese media) was skitter? Do you have any tips besides that for beginners?

@fingerstyledojo 6 ай бұрын

@@nonecker7479 pretty much, yeah. In my opinion, chinese is a grind, more so than other languages. So my tip for a beginner would be to not be afraid of the grind and stay focused and get past it.

@erimozata5120 8 ай бұрын

no no. you are doing good. if this was what you achieved in the first year, then we can easily say that in the seond year hopefuly you will achieve some real basic fluency. keep going and please don't sabotage yourself :)) you're doing good.

@billbirkett7166 8 ай бұрын

All I've got to say is...welcome to the club. I've been studying Chinese for 18 years and I'm still barely at B2 level. I'm proud of what I've learned, but, I haven't lived in China yet, and for most people, that's the golden ticket for getting fluent. I studied in college where we were forced into many immersion actives, I even lived in a Chinese speaking house, had Chinese friends who spoke around me, and then later took 2 years of private lessons about twice a week on average. But I have been erratic with my studies as of late, and I realize that my only shot at making it to C1 is through living abroad in a Chinese speaking place for a minimum of 4 months. I might be able to wing 2 months. But...if you come into Chinese as an Anglophone, expecting an easy time...just stop it. Stop it right now. And if you feel frustrated with it, well...as previously stated...welcome to the club.

@jamesmoughan3502 8 ай бұрын

Duchinese is great! I started learning Chinese about three months ago and have finished almost all the stories up to upper intermediate. Advanced is a big jump in difficulty, though. I'm not sure what to do once that runs out, maybe webnovels. I haven't tried speaking yet. I'm thinking of getting a tutor to practise that, but I know it's going to be miserable haha. Might just try writing for output practise and see how it goes. But your speaking wasn't that bad, you got your points across at least!

@soulharm5532 8 ай бұрын

Yes! Duchinese is the best. It's also very helpful to read the stories aloud, especially dialogs, trying to hit the tones. Listen and speak in the same time, then try by yourself. It helps greatly with speaking. Keep in mind that modern webnovels are much more difficult than old ones. I started with 平凡的世界, a famous old novel. I also used an add-on for Firefox with pop up Chinese dictionary.

@Razboynik69 8 ай бұрын

I love your honesty and work ethic.

@straenverkehrgeheimpolizei3083 7 ай бұрын

Um ehrlich zu sein, Sprachen zu lernen ist ganz einfach frustrierend. Ich bin Mandarin Chinesisch Muttersprachler aus Taiwan, hab seit drei Jahren mir selbst deutsch angeeignet. Ich kann jedoch noch nicht wie deutsche Muttersprachler sprechen, und deutsch zu sprechen fühlt sich für mich noch nicht so angenehmen. Apropos, deine Artikulation ist mir wirklich natürlich, und dein Leseverstehen ist überraschenderweise toll, denn die chinesische Schrift sind uns Muttersprachler ebenfalls nicht so leicht auswendig zu lernen. Gut gemacht! Tommy

@morozovdenisss 8 ай бұрын

Randomly stumbled here, good video, had a similar experience with Japanese

@kadya1712 8 ай бұрын

Your videos are so nice to watch, as if you're our old good friend . You've done a solid job, and your Chinese will improve so much in the foreseeable future 😊. Keep grinding together✊.

@SimplyChinese 8 ай бұрын

LISTEN MORE!!! Get comprehensible input videos to watch!!! LISTEN, LISTEN, LISTEN! Save reading, writing, speaking to later stage.

@paulwalther5237 8 ай бұрын

Interesting update. From the free talk I can see your motivation for choosing to study Chinese 😂 I was hoping to get a Japanese girlfriend when I studied Japanese but it never happened. However I did live there for two years. I’m curious how it is with Chinese because with Japanese you saw a lot of foreigners who had studied several years and were relatively fluent (albeit using basic expressions only but they could definitely talk) but they couldn’t understand native speakers even in one on one conversations. (Actual Japanese teachers excepted). This blew my mind because when I studied German French Spanish etc my experience was the total opposite. I could understand much better than I could speak and this seemed normal.

@jordendarrett1725 8 ай бұрын

How many hours a day did you study Japanese?

@paulwalther5237 8 ай бұрын

@@jordendarrett1725 tons. I didn’t track it but several hours if you include watching anime. Still a lot of you don’t. I was very big on Anki so I was always making flash cards. Maybe 2-3 hours a day during the week and 8 hours a day on the weekends. I spend tons of time on language learning. I often wonder what would happen if I learned an “easy” language instead. I can say that if you consider how much effort it took me to learn Japanese my Japanese stinks. But I’m very happy with it. I don’t think Korean will ever catch up but I’m not giving up. I’m taking an italki lesson in 30 minutes 😂

@jordendarrett1725 8 ай бұрын

@@paulwalther5237 that’s still awesome, I’m learning Spanish right now and afterwards will learn Japanese. I don’t really care for Anki but maybe I’ll use it since my goal is to be able to travel around Japan without the language being an issue whatsoever. Not that I’ll know every word but I still strive to be fluent. Anyway good luck with your Korean

@lexxryazanov 8 ай бұрын

The bigger the beast the greater the glory! 加油！

@安花子-v7r 7 ай бұрын

親學習一年的中文已經非常好啦，我正在學習英語，今天發現了你的頻道，已經訂閱，加油喔

@soulharm5532 8 ай бұрын

Writing characters is a huge waste of time. Seriously. You need to know how to type them on your phone, but writing by hand is required only if you plan to study in a Chinese university. Many chinese ppl forget it if they don't need if for work. I also studied Chinese by myself for only a year and passed a 5 HSK test at the end of it. I started to read proper, not adapted novels after half a year. Duchinese helped a lot, it's the best app for learning chinese after you get the basics. Much better then flash cards. Honestly - cards are garbage, highly ineffective. You need to read words in simple texts to really remember characters. Also, do it aloud. Especially dialogs. Such practice really helps with speaking.

@Bpbp12688 6 ай бұрын

What would you say is the best way to learn Chinese characters? I’ve just started learning Chinese but I fell I will give up. I heard for fluency you need to know atleast 3000 which seems extremely difficult. Would you say learn in context of words or the individual characters?

@soulharm5532 6 ай бұрын

@@Bpbp12688 by reading is the best way. Du Chinese is the best app for the ones who starts to read

@soulharm5532 6 ай бұрын

@@Bpbp12688 individual characters would vanish from your memory quickly. I started learning with apps on my phone. Then did a lot of reading

@Pedro_Sanglard 8 ай бұрын

Dude. I just stumbled upon your channel. I'm a bloke from Brasil with very similar interests, in regards of language fluency and overall "wanderlust spirit". I just started learning chinese, a language and overall culture I was always fascinated by, since I was a little kid. I hear you're planning on going to China (moving to China?), and I got really curious. Do you mind if I ask what's your idea, estrategy and expectations? Looking forward to your next videos, keep it up! Cheers from Brasil.

@ancillarity 8 ай бұрын

KZbin algorithm sent me here. Can I offer some feedback? First of all I think your reading ability is honestly pretty impressive. When it comes to that novel, it seems that you know all the characters, and your pronunciation is pretty decent (you did stumble on the 回答他 part which is a bit of a tongue twister). Clearly you spent a lot of time studying, especially on reading, and it showed. On speaking I think your self assessment is mostly correct. It feels that you are making mistakes here and there, but it's not so severe that you are not understandable. For example on the girlfriend part, 你想[是]我的女朋友吗？I think the correct verb there is 做 or 当. But it's not so weird that I didn't understand what you were trying to ask. By the way I'm only correcting you because you might want to use the sentence? ;) I definitely agree that having someone you can talk to will help. Reading is unfortunately not the same as listening and speaking.

@VictorGonz 8 ай бұрын

00:31 well I saw he's using the mandarin blueprint which I think includes the best method to learn characters.

@linguaholictommy 8 ай бұрын

Haha thanks dude! Really appreciate your comment, thanks for the correction! God bless!

@IronBot 8 ай бұрын

加油！我也在学中文，觉得你学的是真棒！别半途而废，慢慢学🎉

@Dennis_LearnGeek 7 ай бұрын

You can only learn if you LOVE to learn. Mach weiter so! Мне кажется, что ты любишь учить языки!

@jameslabs1 8 ай бұрын

Sooner than we think, Ai will revolutionize language learning.

@paulwalther5237 8 ай бұрын

I doubt it. You can already talk to AI but I never got past one sentence. I just have zero desire to speak to a computer. I don’t think I’m alone in this. The AI is a wonderful dictionary or grammar checker but that’s it.

@wefearaliar 8 ай бұрын

keep on going, mate.

@Guilherme-rk8rq 8 ай бұрын

greetings from brazil

@BeyondMediocreMandarin 8 ай бұрын

Oh! I'm originally from Melbourne. (: Hello from China!

@BeyondMediocreMandarin 8 ай бұрын

Oh 多云 also means cloudy. You very nearly said it!!

@123456789tube100 8 ай бұрын

What are you planning on doing in China and how do you plan to stay there for a year?

@sargentopimienta5190 8 ай бұрын

I agree with almost everything, but I think writing is the most difficult. 😭😭 写汉字很难

@linguaholictommy 8 ай бұрын

我同意！

@josir1994 6 ай бұрын

You ONLY have been studying Chinese for a year. 1 year is a short time for learning a distant language. You have a good start by being very aware of the tones, but you seem to need more training in listening to and picking up the details in the tones. Also, Chinese is a much more written centric language (family), and being able to read text consistently is more important than speaking fluently, even if you goal is "just speak the language and communicate with people".