I Survived A Cult (Kylie Douglas, The 7M Story)

[@marilyngonzalez3870]

Thank you Kylie ❤ for being the brave voice for the members that couldn’t.

[@educocult]

A brilliant interview. Kylie is an incredible communicator and advocate. All power to her. Thanks for inviting her.

[@AfterCurfewPod]

❤

[@tw1258]

This is 1000% human and labor trafficking under the guise of a church and talent organization. The members left behind are under a trance. They cannot escape on their own. The authorities need to 100% shut this down!!! Glad she got out. I hope she tries to keep contact with her friends left behind. I would do whatever I could to convince them to get out because they are in a very precarious situation!! 😢🙏🏽

[@sharonhoward884]

Cults are not illegal, running one is not a crime, these were all adults with free will. Did they have difficulties leaving? No, they did not, They simply walked away and signed with another talent agency. These dancers wanted fame and opportunities and were willing to tow whatever line to get them. They can’t blame 7m, no one forced them to do anything. No one forced them to put up with being yelled at. They had choices and made them.

[@tw1258]

@@sharonhoward884 Correct, cults in the United States are not illegal secondary to the United States Constitution.... HOWEVER, members and leaders of cults can commit crimes, such as sexual assault, sexual coercion and labor/human trafficking....which are all very much illegal. There are LAWS in this country which prohibit certain unlawful conduct in society as mentioned above and these laws can be used against the ABUSERS in this cult to shut this cult down. Law enforcement needs to 1000% further Investigate the claims made by many individuals against this diabolical cult...in doing so it may be discovered that there have been many other crimes committed by the leaders, other cult members and associates involving criminal activity such as fraud, money laundering, sexual abuse, prostitution, drug-related offenses, and even violent crimes. But only a deep investigation by law enforcement can reveal this. In addition, just because someone is in a CULT doesn't mean that they willing chose to be mind controlled and abused. This is how cults work. The people trapped are under a poisonous mind control as seen in Jim Jones Jonestown and many other cases of Stockholm syndrome. The individuals left behind may have INTIALLY joined the cult because they believed in a good cause that was presented to them but in fact it was dressed in a LIE. Unfortunately there are evildoers who create false beliefs, churches and religious groups all in the name of God when in fact they are nothing but narcissistic, money hungry, criminal opportunists. They will use and abuse ANYONE to get what they want and present to the naive individual a lie as though it is gospel, and the truth. These manipulators are very calculating and convincing and this is how someone SEARCHING for their niche, or an pportunity, or the truth can end up disillusioned and delusional....When a lie includes some elements that are seemingly true or align with what people already know or believe, it can make the overall concoction of false truths more plausible. This is because the true parts of the lie can serve to build credibility and create a sense of familiarity or coherence, making it easier for people to accept the false information that is being presented to them. It's truly tragic how evil manipulative people can cause someone to lose their mind...and believe a lie for the truth. This is how cults work on the naive and innocent...even an "adult." Lastly the human brain, particularly the prefrontal cortex, which is the part of the brain behind the forehead that controls decision-making, does NOT fully develop until a person is at the age of 25-26. Some individuals in rare occasions even later. So while people are screaming at the hilltops that these YOUNG adults were ADULTS when they "chose to join this cult." Their decision making capacity is actually not fully functional because this area of their brain, the pre frontal cortex, is under developed. And guess what? The prefrontal cortex is responsible for MANY skills such as planning, prioritizing, JUDGMENT, and impulse control. It also allows people to process the pros and cons of DECISION MAKING before making it. So let's see...take a young adult with an under developed brain and place that young adult with a MIND controlling cultist for years...what do you think will be the outcome?? As previously mentioned...Law enforcement 1000% needs to get involved and further Investigate to shut this debacle down. Period

[@SecretKeeper222]

If someone is brainwashed, you can not try to convince them otherwise... Unfortunately. You have to gently guide them to figuring it out for themselves. It's not easy. But at the end of the day, they are adults, and therefore their decisions matter, too. They have to get themselves out. No one can make them.

[@glogrann8562]

@@sharonhoward884Cults use members as slave labor. They physically abuse members by making them work long hours for the Church, no rest, bad food, even locking members up. You have to be in a cult, or wanting to get into a cult, to be protecting these monsters. Members don’t dare leave after being brainwashed 24/7 by these monsters. Miranda, with 2 million followers, is a big money earner for Shinn. The US government can get him on tax evasion.

[@organictribe8363]

100%!!

[@danaboo88]

I’ve always loved you Kylie!! Keep killing it baby girl. We SEE YOU. 🤘🏼😘🫧💕

[@sonyaharrison1206]

I've been on both sides of this coin and now that I know the truth and it is set me free. I'm grateful and thankful for all that I've learned. I pray for each and every person who is caught up in something like this I even pray for those leaders that they would for misleading others

[@Ccsclosetz]

Cult or not, no one should be belittled like that in a work environment

[@junique212]

That's how abusers break down their victima aside from isolating

[@NYLI11]

Only if others are as smart as her ❤️❤️ Kylie so glad you got out ❤️

[@michelescricco2018]

Definitely a red flag if you can’t see your family

[@andrearicherson]

Just watched the documentary last night. So sad. For clarification, the pastor uses the word of God and twists it to have ultimate control. The Bible says “die to yourself” in terms of denying desires that are tempting but will lead you on the wrong path. This pastor is twisting it to turn vulnerable people against the ones who love them the most, their family. This is not a Christian point of view.

[@glogrann8562]

Why doesn’t the IRS go after Shinn’s earnings? Where is Kylie’s ex boyfriend? Did he stay in the cult

[@rfbuffy]

No, he got out too, but they broke up.

[@jesseewalker5147]

I am officially old I guess. The hosts uptalk and fake voice made this video so annoying that I couldn't keep listening. Like I said, I must be officially old now.

[@mkorpalart]

I felt similar 🙈 I also felt they wanted to talk about Miranda too much and not Kylie

[@sonia-lu2rn]

Off putting for sure. An affect for sure. Are we old? For sure. Could the host be more genuine and at ease? For sure.

[@GizelleQuant]

Yup. Same.

[@Pllcat]

The justice legal system is so bad my evidence of domestic abuse was similar to rihanna’s but I was denied a restraining order 😢 in San Diego

[@organictribe8363]

Is Miranda still in this cult???

[@chrisspearline767]

These people are led astray so easily because they know absolutely nothing about God basically

[@rfbuffy]

No. They were mislead because they were pre-groomed by religion to accept things that cannot be proven on faith and when they found this church and all their friends,and those who shared their professional interests and with whom they collaborated to make dances, were members. It seemed safe to join. The cult leader uses the Bible that is used in most Christian churches, but cherry picked to establish control.

[@organictribe8363]

Kylie is a very mature young lady!

[@JackieWidmer90]

Who was kylies mentor?

[@BindleBelle]

Thanks for this!! It’s so hard taking anything serious in the docuseries because Katie Joy ( without a crystal ball ) had a hand in the “research” of it , and to most of us, that took any credibility out the window.. it was nice to hear from someone else !! Thanks!

[@mariafrmdaBX]

I completely agree with that statement!! She’s problematic at worst and a vile human who’s just taking up air at best!! She’s beyond appalling!!

[@sonyaharrison1206]

😢 I totally understand although I was not part of this cult I was part of another not knowing it at the time that it was a cult I was totally trying to follow after God and wanted what he wanted for me I was trying to grow and be a better person. My heart goes out to each and every person who's been deceived by someone they trusted especially in trying to follow Jesus

[@DonnaDistefano-r7u]

good for all you ex members to come forward and bring down 7m cult/ church robert shinn and stop his abuse.

[@sunnydae6602]

I wish you could have some respect for the people you are interviewing as well as your listeners and not drop a bunch of F bombs throughout your interview… So tired of listening of listening to that crap!

[@alisonk_designs]

You shouldn't have to be invited to church! Our church meets Sundays and Wed. Also! However, dance groups should meet at a dance studio and such!!

[@glogrann8562]

Imagine the money Shinn is making off of Miranda. She is a complete fool.

[@alisonk_designs]

It sounds like a really sketchy church

[@aprilshowers769]

Make no mistake about it, the "chosen" dancers knew how others were being abused, they just didn't care because of their own self opportunities. Thats how that business is. Me Me Me, I, I, I. God accepts all people. These chosen dancers know that.

[@chrisspearline767]

Learning about God while dancing to the Devil's music. God will never tell you to listen or dance for that matter to any music that doesn't glorify Him

[@rfbuffy]

Oh dear! Devil’s music. You sound like you are in a cult yourself.

[@alisonk_designs]

I'm a Latter Day Saint!

[@lindseystein9676]

Maybe it is a cult of high control group, but nothing I heard sounded like a cult, judging by what she said. She realized she was in a cult when feeling left out and after hearing allegations? Unfortunately being left out of content and sometimes getting yelled at is very typical in the dance world. My biggest red flag here is how is a cult so easily left?

[@educocult]

Do refer to Robert Jay Lifton, Dr Janja Lalich or Dr Alexandra's Steins criteria for what a cult is, rather than the one you have imagined. Have a nice day!

[@leeannspencer2952]

What?!? How did nothing she spoke about sound like a cult? It checks every box of a cult. Control, isolation, fear tactics, Authoritarianism, Abuse, New life, Rites of passage she has checked every one of these boxes. Even as a dancer the dance world is a CULT 100% so much is accepted that absolutely should never be accepted in that world,

[@eastcoastbabe97]

7M is definitely a cult. More so a very modern type. This is a very new age approach. I think in the near future we'll see more cases similar to this.

[@curlyfie2985]

They had to get up at 4 am and listen to him ramble for hooooours. Sounds pretty cultish to me

[@StacyK1996]

It’s a cult because I came out of one exactly like it, they are growing I was abused but I was an asset to them by growing up singing in worship they could have used me to write worship music for them I have a whole story, and it’s under the guise of the 7 mountain mandate teaching…the oldest in the books.

[@NellePrayingForYall]

Everybody claims Detroit. She may be from Michigan but not Detroit lol

[@carmenbautista3353]

Totally lol yea like lol

[@llodise1]

Just like Scientology

[@organictribe8363]

The interviewer doesn't need to use the F bomb, lowers her class and professionalism

[@JaniceDoe210]

God this interviewer is annoying

[@swantisefell7476]

What's so annoying about it?

[@nikmpup]

Does this remind anyone else of the Lizzo situation?

[@rfbuffy]

I don’t know about Lizzo’s situation. I hope she doesn’t have to endure anything like this.

[@nikmpup]

​@@rfbuffyshe's the perpetrator. Look into it

[@sharonhoward884]

These people were all adults and all had free will. Kylie made choices about getting more opportunities and she was willing to do whatever it took to try to get them, despite the fact there were red flags. You didn’t stand up to them for berating you because you were worried you’d miss gigs and opportunities. Kylie you had the power to say “fuck you” I will not let you treat me this way. You didn’t so you can’t do a press tour blaming them when you should hold yourself accountable. You were asked to give up your other job, a job you’d had for 5 yrs and you just did it. The question I have is “were you forced” and you know the answer to that is no. Did you have to “escape” in the middle of the night or did you just walk away like your friends did? You weren’t in a cult. You were hungry for what your friends had. That’s on you. The lesson should be to straighten out your priorities and stop compromising your standards for success.

[@leeannspencer2952]

Sounds like you are a member of this cult. Just because it’s easy to leave doesn’t make something not a cult or not abusive.

[@sharonhoward884]

@@leeannspencer2952 If it’s easy to leave it’s not a cult. The whole premise of an alleged cult is the so called inability to leave control No one as far as the dancers had any difficulty walking away. They chose to be there then they chose to leave when they decided they didn’t like it anymore. They were making money, more than they’d made in the past, they got ahead of bills, bought cars, had apartments, attended red carpet events, appeared on major television productions. The rumours on social media are what made them start questioning. Rumours that are still unproven.

[@123lol908]

Honestly, I get what you’re saying. They are all adults and I think that’s what makes this all the more shocking and I do find that them doing the interview interviews after this time is a little strange. I do believe she was in a cold, but I don’t think she never not had the opportunity to leave and I don’t think anyone else also doesn’t not have the opportunity to leave, but that they actually want to stay because they think the opportunities are better than Them leaving Miranda scares me honestly

[@StacyK1996]

What the hell are you talking about???? She is a survivor and I was too and I can go on KZbin and expose another one for you so you can see that there is another church like that, I was a first year college student I could have been so successful because of what they could offer me….but when I stood up to them their true colors came out, they have an agenda, cults like that, that come out of churches like that I am a survivor too. She is doing a good thing speaking out because pastors who hide behind this bulshit and the members who prop them up should be SHUT DOWN!

[@StacyK1996]

Kylie is very talented and they saw they probably couldnt get through to her like Miranda, they use people so before you say stuff like that do your freaking research