I SWAPPED MY RANGE ROVER FOR AN EV!

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Whilst you know I may somewhat of an EV sceptic, my accountant is; year on year - pushing me to buy one. Whilst I've got one in stock, I thought I'd try one for a whole 7 days. Here's how it went...
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[@HighPeakAutos]

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[@Bruiser_Lee]

Was the initial £5.00 charged to your card eventually refunded, Matt? i.e. Did it cost £4.78 or £9.78 for 25 minutes of "downloading electricity juice" for (a maximum of) 20 miles of range? Great summary/video, by the way. The UK charging network needs to improve and the cost of the vehicles needs to decrease (a lot) for me to consider one (as a second vehicle). PS. Can the vehicle be disconnected from the public charging station mid-charge? I noticed the "Emergency Stop" button on the station. Could the local yoofs think it was funny to disconnect or stop the charging while you were away so that when you returned it then takes twice as long (and, possibly, twice as much debit to your card, as you need to begin again)?

[@thepro08]

i have a feeling that these evs will be the worst ambient disaster since the invention of private jets or yatchs for that matter... most of these evs are not lasting 5 years..... its a ambient disaster , the bateries... and guess were most of the eletricity come from? yes greta dads.... loool

[@mrandrewhowell]

On a recent Harry’s garage video about EVs, he showed that KIAs were some of the worst for battery degradation

[@ofusowre7620]

Sorry. Even for me who love the blue color. It looks terrible. Sorry Matt 😅 I hate EVs with a passion so i won t comment about the rest😁

[@davedutton5291]

​@@Bruiser_Leethey only hold it whilst the charger is in progress and return almost immediately after. Some don't have an initial feeling so you only pay for the juice you add. From my experience with Octopus the electoverse card saves a lot of messing about and gives you a discount to boot.

[@DJRyanJamesUK]

The tone in your voice, and the smile on your face says everything you need to know when you was driving that Mercedes.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Unfortunately, not all of us are able to own or drive cars like that.....

[@EazyDuz18]

You only have yourself to blame for that though.@@Brian-om2hh

[@Mike-hx7yn]

Hi Matt No point having all the mod-cons if you can’t switch them on because you can’t risk losing range..!

[@Brian-om2hh]

Nonsense! If I drove 100 miles in my Kia EV with the heater on, I'd maybe be looking at 10 to 15 miles loss. Certainly no more. A 10 mile trip using the heater, might lose you 750 yards range. Using the radio might cost you 20 yards range.

[@Bruiser_Lee]

This is the kind of information that reluctant (late) adopters need to alleviate concerns by reflecting ('real world') usage over months, not a few days/a week or a single ‘road trip’, as is usually reported by reviewers with limited access to EVs loaned to them. Similarly, ICE vehicles experience a drop in power to the engine when their onboard air conditioning is active. Is that also noticeable in a (Kia) EV?

[@peteygti1]

you lose range in an ice car too

[@Mariazellerbahn]

@@Brian-om2hh Nonsense! If I drove 100 miles in my petrol car with the heater on, I'd be looking at no mileage loss whatsoever. A 10 mile trip using the heater, would lose me nothing. Using the radio wouldn't lose me any range either. It all adds up.

[@neilmarshment2910]

⁠@@Bruiser_Lee Not sure that the early adopters, the ‘pragmatists’ are convinced yet. Matt’s review was just that, pragmatic.

[@memelogy737]

Always a good day when HPA uploads

[@juicypea8392]

Matt, as an EV owner (Nissan Ariya with a 270 mile range) I do agree with you that they are a better fit for the retiree, which I am, (and I love a latte as well). But you compared your 5.0L supercharged V8 with a 9 year old EV with a tiny range. I would love to see you do the same test in a Tesla Model 3 for example. I’m sure you would have a more favourable opinion at the end of it.

[@Vercingetorixeur]

" This 2015 mobile phones just can compare to today's, these mobile phone things are a joke"

[@Lamar-eg5xp]

Matt, this is one of your best videos! I love the blend between talking about business regarding your EV experience and personal, such as you not remembering your night 🤣! Your humour is perfect and thanks for another great video!

[@HighPeakAutos]

Haha thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it

[@fyank1]

I did exactly the same as you. I went from a supercharged V8 Range Rover to an EV back in 2014. I’ve never looked back and am now on my 5th EV with a 300 mile range and it does everything I ask of it, in style!

[@CurioByBSpokeDesigns]

LOL he listens to Aqua and has the nerve to tell us a Soul is a pensioner's car! A man of dubious taste! ;-)

[@musclerent]

The thing is an ev rarely used it's brake pads, it uses regen. Brake pads are one thing it's not going to need

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

He also does not rate diesels cars. he is clueless

[@CurioByBSpokeDesigns]

@@Anonymous-ib8so Of course he doesn't rate Diesel cars - he has petrol running through his veins!

[@ianb9729]

Was Dr Jones a psychologist? Should we ask him what's going on here? Can this man be saved?

[@Chris-hw4mq]

@@musclerent who cares they still suck

[@stepjamie]

I agree, a 2 car scenario, I use my EV (2015 i3) for daily work commute, drives to London and back (25 miles each way) going to the gym and tennis etc, but not for any long driving when you can't guarantee where a charging point is or if it's a rapid charge, let alone working or available.

[@bigfilsing]

Nice honest video! I'm just very skeptical as to how long EV's will remain Tax exempt once the uptake rate rises!

[@chr15b]

Good shout. The BIK rate is going increase 1% a year. Currently at 2%

[@maverick6631]

EVs will be taxed from 1st April 2025, and that will apply to existing zero emission vehicles, not just new ones from that date.

[@chr15b]

@@maverick6631 I assume they'll be on the lowest band, which will still be a significant saving.

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@chr15b I'm guessing they'll be what will (by then) be the lowest band, at £190 per year.....

[@paulinecooke3450]

Hello Matt’s, thanks for another enjoyable video. However you are testing a 9 year old EV with a tiny battery. We have a 4 year old BMW i3 with a usable range of 150 miles. That will do 99 out of 100 journeys we make on a single charge. Charge overnight on a super cheap tariff and it is great VFM. Plus it’s still a BMW!

[@OldSkoolDJFX]

I think doing the test in better EV would have been fairer.

[@Brian-om2hh]

But that was the only EV Matt had in stock, for sale. This Soul is one of the earlier examples with the smaller capacity battery. The version you buy today, has a battery pack of almost 3 times the capacity.....

[@skarpheinnsmundsson9741]

@@Brian-om2hh Indeed and he shouldn´t have used it as an example when it doesn´t or just barely fits his needs, that will not give a fair owner experience to anyone and the review showed as much. If he was doing an ev review then he should do as everyone does or should do and pick something that fits his needs.

[@musclerent]

Perhaps one 10 years younger with a 200 to 400 mile range

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@skarpheinnsmundsson9741 I can only agree with that. Given that Matt's Soul is a 9 year old example, and the newer Souls have 3 times the range. Someone has already pointed out that given Matt needs a car to do his job, he chose the wrong tool for that job....

[@MSCURR-m2o]

He recently had a Nissan leaf e+ been fairer to use this. Also no works or home charger so 3 pin plug charging, ridiculous. That’s a petrol head trying to do a comparison.

[@TGRacing]

My Outlander PHEV is £0 VED it has a range of 300 miles plus and, although the EV only range is small (25-ish), it's fine for pootling about. It can move a huge amount of gear and cruise the motorways comfortably. Heated leather seats, etc. 🙂

[@amdadurrahman3967]

Nice! Was looking to get one, what's the cost of a full tank? And what's your insurance like?

[@nick52525]

This 27kWh Soul is for sale for £9,295. There’s a 64kWh Soul for sale for £13,995 on AutoTrader which has more than double the range. Also I would try to charge at home and work with a 32Amp charger rather than a 10Amp one with a 3 pin plug. Much safer and designed to be left charging overnight.

[@pokerman111111111111]

Try a tesla model 3 long range for a week Tesla chargers And 340 mile range..but I think you knew your answer before you even started

[@dancooper2072]

They look horrendous and are built just as bad

[@MidghamSteve]

You said it at the start, the EV for you would be the Tesla Model 3 LR - maybe 3 years old? Has all the range you are looking for with the fun of a boost if you need it. Plus the Tesla Superchargers are second to none.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Yes, the LR version of the Model 3 would do what Matt needs. Richard - he of the RSEV KZbin channel - drove a Model 3 LR from Edinburgh to London airport, without stopping to charge. He videoed the complete trip (editing out the bit where he pi$$ed into a bottle on the move).

[@hendrikott3827]

I have been driving a ev for 8 months now a cupra born and im impressed by it and i like it more than my old petrol car and would not change back in due time

[@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj]

Mattttt, I think you should have picked an Ev that is big and luxurious, similar to your Range Rover. I think you’d like an early Jag i pace, they have depreciated lots, and with bigger wheels (wheels under 20 inch make the car look less appealing). Or maybe you could look at a phev for a few months before switching to an EV. Apparently their putting road tax on ev’s soon aswell

[@robloxfan4271]

agreed, he should re do the test but with a more expensive electric car

[@jamesmaybrick2001]

@@robloxfan4271 Isnt that like saying he should only test more expensive non EV's? Plenty of other channels do those. This channel is about the sort of car most people can afford.

[@UnknownUser-rb9pd]

@@jamesmaybrick2001 He's deliberately picked the worst car he could find for range when he has a minimum of 50 miles a day to drive. That's like buying a city car when you have to travel across Europe. There's plenty of cars that he could have bought 2nd hand that would have doubled this range and more modern cars can charge more quickly as well. If he had a 150 or 200 mile range he'd easily have avoided his range anxiety. If you're one of the rare people who drive hundreds of miles everyday an EV is still probably not for you but the average commute is about 20 miles.

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

No EV achieves anywhere near it's claimed range. Teslas are facing a court case from the Dept of Justice in the USA. Every other manufacture has a get out clause under their ads. if toy are driving more than 20 miles a day you are wasting a large part of your life charging these monstrosities

[@stevefairbanks835]

I Pace! With their track record

[@nigeltant]

I think you are right about them being a good second car - a lot of people have 2 cars in the family and an EV seems perfect as a local every day runabout. We have solar panels, so having one seems a no brainer when I can charge it for free. I have no idea how often they go wrong, but they are simpler than an internal combustion engined car, so maintenance should be cheaper. We forget that ir is early days for these - consider how long it took to get from the Model T to our modern cars.

[@iainmacleod4007]

As a long time EV owner you have captured all the salient points of operating an EV. They drive well but the range is limited and the charging network woeful. Regarding the cost of public charging, I could have bought my dream car an F Type Jaguar and it would have been cheaper to run. Depreciation on my one year old ID3 with 10000 on the clock has been £26000 which is eye watering.

[@Luckyjo21]

then go buy a diesel instead of driving that crap

[@DMBriffa]

Hold on to it for two or three years and your losses may well be far less. There's a lot of FUD about EVs right now. Vested interests are spreading it. I think it's temporary.

[@adamfry1125]

As a long time EV owner would you not have ruined the video by simply plugging in over night on day 1. Stupid video if you're not going to use the main convenience of an EV. Oh look I need to reinforce my point so I will self sabotage the already small range by refusing the opportunity to fill up over night when I'm asleep 🤦

[@scrubplaceholder6216]

Lel buying new cars, thats the worst thing you can do with your money. 2nd hand is always the way to go. Let some sucker pay the bill for youm

[@iainmacleod4007]

@@Luckyjo21 Read my comments, they are far superior to drive compared to an ICE vehicle as quieter, far quicker and smooth as silk to drive. It is range and charging issues that let them down. Charged from home at night on the cheap rate they work very well indeed. Clearly you have never owned one or driven one.

[@simonlloyd100]

I have a Soul 64kw...get 250 miles and regularly do long trips...generally without any problems

[@noordinaryjoe1414]

“I don’t like to give in” he says, from the front seat of a Mercedes S class

[@bloodstockvip2176]

Not all evs are like this, borrow my model 3 long range with boost (lowered does help) and do your usual runs which it likes the motorway (70mph). I do a daily 146 mile commute and always get home with 50% battery left from fully charged, even booting it off the line a few times and not tiptoeing around either. Ev will not work for everyone but for a car now around £20k that'll do 60mph in under 4 seconds is good for many and £4 a 'tank', it's cheap motoring too on the go if you can home charge as I do, which some can't I know.

[@derekburgess]

Sounds good. How long does it take to recharge 146 miles at home?

[@markburton8303]

@@derekburgess I'd say 5-6 hours based on 3.5miles/kWh and 7kw charger.

[@EazyDuz18]

too slow. What good is a 4 sec nort to sixty if someone in a 1 litre Micra would beat the Tesla to the destination on a roadtrip@@markburton8303

[@musclerent]

Most new ev's do this as well. It's the standard

[@PooleAcademyofWingChun]

😂

[@grahamleiper1538]

Lots changed with EVs since 2015. The point is you start every day with a full tank. Pay the money for a proper charger, rather than use a plug. Range anxiety died about 2019 unless you buy specific low range cars. Heat pumps are way more common. Public charging can be painful and expensive unless Tesla. Quite impressed the charger you found worked. At home on cheap rate you'd fill it for £2.

[@jimpackard8059]

Range anxiety only vanishes if you only ever drive locally and can charge at home/work.

[@FFVoyager]

@@jimpackard8059 what EV do you drive?

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@jimpackard8059 Which actually applies to most people. The average UK daily commute is 20.8 miles, and the average UK motorway journey is 70 to 80 miles.....

[@skarpheinnsmundsson9741]

@@jimpackard8059 Nope just vanished completely, on my longer trips I stop after driving 3-4hours anyway and the 15-20min it takes to charge is enough time to get something to eat, stretch a little, go to the restroom and off again. And as others have said the average commute for most isn´t that long so it´s the occasional longer trip that is the only time you have to charge away and with most never ev´s you have fast charging and decent range. I have had Teslas for 6years now and only once had range anxiety and that was my fault and not the cars.

[@peteygti1]

even tesla is expensive

[@rod9829]

1) get one with higher range (Base model 3 has base 344 miles range) 2) charge it at home at night

[@FancyaBevMate]

Even the Highlands just does 344 miles the base is under 300

[@Andrew-tb9vr]

To be fair Tesla has similar satisfaction levels to regular fuelled cars. Its the other manufacturers that disappoint massively.

[@peteygti1]

​@@Andrew-tb9vr the others disappoint massively? I think they don't, for a start they don't have massive panel gaps

[@youraveragejoe1]

The thing is you have to spend a lot of money to get a decent range on an electric car. Meanwhile almost any petrol/diesel cars has a good range

[@peteygti1]

@@youraveragejoe1 you really don't, you buy an EV based on your needs - most people don't need something that can go 300 miles.

[@peterlinley6520]

You had me worried for a few minutes...

[@Twmpa]

Last week I covered 560 miles, mostly with 4 people on board and a fully loaded boot and roof box. This was in a Citroen C3 Picasso diesel which accomplished this on a single tank of fuel and returned 54mpg. When I returned home, it took 5 minutes to add another 600 miles of range to the car. The EV that can offer this kind of competence and convenience has yet to be invented and likely never will.

[@jamesdowling9759]

Don’t stop the partridge references 😂

[@jamesdowling9759]

@@bezoekers yep. It’s like a little game in every video trying to spot the reference 😂

[@oliverrees9422]

It's all about the camera angles

[@99AmethystZJ]

Good vid Matt, I'm not into them either, my friend has one through work a big VW something or other and Dave thing, promises range until you use wipers, lights or heating, sod that! They didn't take it when we went away for a weekend as couldn't be sure where to charge it and it wouldn't have made the journey! 👍

[@dscotia]

There is a simple dynamic with EVs, charge up when you can especially small capacity battery ones. Doesn't matter how long, if you're not using it Charge IT!🤗 We found this out with our second car, we had no budget whatsoever, we could only afford a 24kW Leaf but as a local area runaround we could clock up the miles. So we took a leaf out of the local taxi firm's book. When ever sitting, charge. Even on a piddling granny charger offers 10 miles in an hour. A domestic 7kW offers up around 26 miles🤗 ps. our Leaf had a 6.6kW OBC

[@DaBurgeo]

Hi Matt, great content. The win with EV’s IS home charging. Mine has a 175 mile real world range. Rarely do more than that in a day, even if you have 10 miles left, you wake up with another 175 for few quid.

[@davidk7262]

I had a first gen leaf with a similar range. My wife's commute was a 44 miles round trip. You just change your mindset ever so slightly and when you come home at night you plug it in. In this video you could've had no worries had you have done that. I am willing to bet you find time to plug your phone in every night.......it is the same! The latest EVs are a different story anyway but I would still apply the same rule.

[@johnwaugh6410]

We had a range rover (BMW M62) and after selling that we bought a Kia Soul EV, but the newer one with 64kwh battery. We loved the range rover, but seriously the Kia is actually better! We set it up to charge to 80% to preserve the battery on off peak electricity. Every morning it's good for about 200 miles. On a cold day the app allows you to pre heat it, and unlike the Range rover it is pretty reliable. The newer Kia Soul is very easy to live with, but you are right about public chargers... Total rip off.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Indeed, the larger battery in the newer version makes all the difference. Public charging with a subscription can be way cheaper than paying the "normal" cost. My local charge network charges 38p per kwh on it's heavy user subscription. The non-subscriber costs at most chargers are up around 60 to 80p per kwh.... I smiled at the " unlike the Range Rover, it is pretty reliable" comment..... There's way less to go wrong with an EV. Around 30 moving parts, against thousands for anything with an engine....

[@johnwaugh6410]

@@Brian-om2hh Exactly so! It's actually quite liberating no longer living with a car where the timing chain guides can detonate any moment. Obviously the key thing with an EV is to avoid that crazy early depreciation. We decided that a 2 year old Kia with 5 years warranty left hit the sweet spot.

[@davek7256]

Challenge for you Matt : Get a used Tesla and repeat this experiment. Be interesting to see how you feel with a car that can do ~300 miles. Good video as always. 👍🏻

[@pokerman111111111111]

So a small battery car with little range is no good for lots of miles. Who would have thunk it.. My EV has 64kw battery with 250-300 miles. Use the right tool for the job.

[@dmn1000000]

Lol exactly

[@Brian-om2hh]

Exactly....

[@skarpheinnsmundsson9741]

And he should know exactly that and not do such a review with a car that doesn´t or just barely fits his needs.

[@youraveragejoe1]

But are there many EVs with 250 mile ranges under £10k? Cause lot everyone has a lot to spend on a new car

[@pokerman111111111111]

if you really need the range there are 160ish mile new shape nissan leaf and possibly 200 mile new shape renault zoe R135 and plenty of 160 mile R110 zoe.you can get first generation zoe that does 70-80 miles for £5k+.He compared a £60-70K range rover to a bottom of the barrel ev.not really a fair comparison.small battery,slow charging if he spent £50k on an ev it would be differant story.300 mile range.full battery in 20 mins.that would be a lot easier to live with.he did absoluelty no research into charging or his car then he will come unstuck and blame ev's.not hard to watch a youtube video or google

[@meloccom]

Choosing a short range EV was always going to cause problems but there are ways to make even that car work better for your needs. 1: ABC “Always Be Charging” A decision on the first night to plug in may have been overcome the problem on the second day when you wanted to collect the Mercedes. 2: Consider installing wall connectors, at your dealership at least as that will speed charging. Charging in a 3 pin 13A plug gives you 3Kw (13A X 230V) whilst the Kia Soul is capable of 7.4Kw connected to a 32A wall connector. This will reduce the recharge time on this car by more than half. Also if you intend to sell EVs in the future having wall connectors will benefit your business as it will make it easier to maintain the charge level on vehicles you sell. Finally, much of what you say about the public charging network is correct but as you also note it’s improving. On top of this most public charging providers give lower charging rates to customers who open an account, tap to pay on a credit card will always be expensive.

[@charlietwotimes]

Tbf, in a fair few petrol cars you put the aircon on & you lose 10% fuel efficiency too..

[@Brian-om2hh]

Quite correct.

[@cgln8760]

But it takes 5 mins to fill up a petrol car. not so in an EV.

[@lumicolour1]

@@cgln87605-15 minutes and how much is the fuel bill?

[@davidbillberg2203]

Thanks for the 4 videos coming this week!

[@mattwright2964]

My wifes got a hybrid and I've got a Merc. Our plan for the next stage with our cars is likely to be keeping a diesel for long runs and swapping the hybrid for a full EV. Between the two we then have all bases covered until EVs offer the full package. I have absoluetly no doubt they will as well. I expect lots of comments about they are crap but as I say they will be what we are all driving before too long.

[@antoniopalmero4063]

I use my Nissan leaf for everyday use and the Range Rover vogue at weekends or longer journeys .

[@rogerwredford]

This is how I perceive the average Joe who enjoys his “proper” cars will end up using them… to offset the cost and environmental effect of running an internal combustion car for longer trips or the pleasure of it

[@rhysparker6504]

Getting a Cupra Born delivered tomorrow. It’s a salary sacrifice lease deal and I can’t afford not to (I have to pay the ULEZ to go to work). But I’ll also be swapping my current E350 coupe for a convertible - probably another Merc for weekends and road trips

[@damonirvana]

Keep the Alan Partridge lines coming Matt!

[@stevenham1937]

Be good to see you do a week with a Tesla long range and how much easier it is with their super charger network and the way the whole system works through the sat nav and charging cost being all set up. I think having high 200’s in miles and the speed of a top up charge makes a lot of difference looking at it from the outside at least.

[@EwanM11]

There are two types of EVs. Teslas and non-Teslas.

[@alexdalgleish1061]

I’ve messaged him pretty much that. Tesla Stockport not far away at all and it’d be a complete doddle.

[@rambleon3698]

How boring would that be. Tesla's are so meh!

[@gypsyemperor7535]

@@rambleon3698 100% u have never driven or sat in one. Utter liar

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

@@EwanM11 And both are rubbish

[@dylandajhharwood5566]

Personally, for 60% of the population an EV is a good choice. Home > drop kids at school > work > pickup kids > home. Depending on your daily mileage, it's be perfect. I probably do less than 15 miles a day and I lug around a big Golf GTi and get 25mpg. Something like an MG4 X-Power would be awesome for me with 240 miles of range. I think your use case warrants a petrol, diesel or a PHEV as you do a lot of miles a day for work.

[@TheVintageApplianceEmporium]

It entirely depends on your own personal use case. I know I could make one work. But I can't justify the expense or the precipitous depreciation. It would cost me less to keep my old L322 on the road and swallow the running costs / repair bills. Which is pretty crazy TBH

[@EwanM11]

Take advantage of the mega depreciation and get one second hand. No good for business tax, but I've found it is still relatively economical for me to buy second hand and claim mileage. But i do about 2000 miles a month so i skew heavily towards economical cars, can't do much better than an EV with home charging.

[@TheVintageApplianceEmporium]

@@EwanM11 I have been pondering this. A one year old MG5 with 7k miles on the clock can be picked up for £15k. Less than half price after 12 months

[@ryuhayabaker]

I tend to agree, most of the time as it's a case by case basis. At the moment, I don't need to drive for work, I usually do a lot of my stuff within a 26 mile round trip - however, once every weekend or so I have to drive from Dorset to London or elsewhere for football, so a car like this wouldn't be recommended as a sole car. Instead I've got a 16 year old 1.5l Swift, with only 58,500 on the clock (thank you old people of Hampshire doing 400 miles a year on average), and while it's not the most comfortable after 2 hours driving, it's been reliable, it's fuel efficient, it's not boring to drive and it's relatively cheap - cost only £3,000 around 5/6 years ago.

[@Brian-om2hh]

But why buy new? I saw someone get a really clean 2016 Renault Zoe with 35k miles on it for £4400 a while back. How much depreciation might you expect to see on a Zoe like this? It's lost almost all it's going to lose.....

[@MSCURR-m2o]

It’s revues like his that makes people hate Eva’s so drop in value. Should have done his research before, like sensible ev owners do.

[@johnchristmas7522]

Matt, I'm all for your Range Rover. Two fingers to an EV! Dont have a accident in a EV where you have to have the batteries changed (just recently a customer had to have his batteries changed-Hyundai Ioniq5 for £60,000- on line) or after a year find that your EV has lost £40,000 plus in depreciation and also worry about the cost of Insurance! Plus remember the instances of self ignition and how that applies to your house insurance!!

[@jassingh7513]

The charging times are more of a bug bear with me compared to range. Its fine if you have a home charger however the public charging infrastructure leaves a lot to be desired, and the cost is usually on a par with a tank of fuel. In addition, it takes minute to fuel up at a petrol pump, whereas its a hour plus, to charge an EV

[@DarrenWhittington]

I've been in a EV just over a year now, since my normal day to day driving charging at home costs 2/3p a mile compared to 16p in a ICE what I do spend using the public charging infrastructure averages out to nothing. if I do charge at public chargers its usually just 10mins to get to my destination, never any more than 30.

[@kovbahadori3485]

I love my BMW I3 - 42KWh battery and 7Kw wall box for overnight charging - moves the game on

[@chrissinclaire9936]

I have been driving EV''s for just over a year now. Started with a VW ID4, and now I have the Audi Q4 e-Tron 50 Quattro, that Matt did a review on. I easily get over 250 miles of range out of it. It charges up at home overnight, and on the rare occasions that i have had to use a public charger, normally on the motorway, I have mostly had positive experiences. However, if I didn't have the off-road parking and a charging unit at home, I would have to question whether I would have the EV over a diesel/petrol.

[@chrishart8548]

Do you charge above 80% regularly?

[@stevecarr3019]

I too have a Q4 ETron, albeit a 40 rwd. I have only had it 3 months so I’m no expert but I just can’t get over how cheap it is to run. I was getting 31mpg out of my 71 plate A5 which works out roughly £20.70 per 100 miles whereas my Q4 is costing 2.70 per 100 mile. The road tax for the A5 was £570, it’s a no brainer for me, I can’t imagine ever going back to an ICE vehicle again. The car cost more but that’s more than offset by the savings

[@chrissinclaire9936]

@@chrishart8548 Only when I am going on a journey of more that 200 miles in one day.

[@chrissinclaire9936]

@@stevecarr3019 My VWI D4 is a company car, and the difference in benefit in kind and fuel tax when compared to my previous Audi A5 Diesel are about £700 a month. So my initial view was it was worth going electric for the tax savings. However, I enjoyed the EV experience so much, I bought the Audi Q4 as my personal car. I retire in April this year, so the VW will go back then. Very good car, but the Audi has the edge in many areas.

[@stevecarr3019]

Wow that is a great saving. Good luck on your retirement, I’m retired now myself

[@LorenzoWood]

“I didn’t charge it overnight.” “I asked the last person to leave to turn it off at the mains.” I think we”ve found your personal challenge with EVs.

[@ridgmont61]

I think you do need to try this with a 300+ mile EV and see how the range anxiety is.

[@gypsyemperor7535]

Wouldn't suit his AGENDA

[@dmn1000000]

His anti-EV agenda which is perfectly tailored to his gammon change-hating audience.

[@mst4314]

Don't think that would satisfy most of the watchers. Wouldn't fit the agenda when in reality if he picked a half decent ev it would actually be more convenient to use considering he has a driveway to charge it on

[@jonl8509]

Yes, that would only leave him with the insurance cost anxiety, the high purchase price anxiety, the cold weather battery depletion anxiety and the charging point availability/serviceability anxiety to deal with.

[@mst4314]

@jonl8509 he can charge at home so charger anxiety isn't a thing for him. If it is then buy a tesla. Cold weather is also a non issue, EVs make up 80% of sales in Norway. Battery degradation is a massively overblown non issue- you think manufacturers are giving 8 year battery warranties because they think they will need replacing?! And finally, Matt drives a range rover as a daily... hardly a monument to frugality is it?! He could sell it, buy a model 3 and be quids in. Not to be rude but you are a bit out of date. Most of your concerns were relevant a decade ago. Most people really think they need a range of 500 mile plus. How many of them have ever actually driven that kind of distance in one go?! I've been driving 20 years and I haven't. It's over 7 hours at motorway speed, who is doing that without taking a couple of stops regularly?! Answers: nobody and bullshitters for the sake of winning anti ev arguments on social media

[@cbimage]

Of course they're quicker (the chargepoints): the "granny charger" will give you only 2.4kW, whereas the chargepoints will be 20 times that. And Zap Map will tell you what the charge will cost you per unit.

[@gregcooper2719]

I love how you're reviewing a 9 yr old EV with a tiny range on it and using it for comments like "that's the problem with EVs..." Most people get the EV for their needs. my wife does 300 miles a month, something like this would be great for her. I do 2000 miles a month, but never more than 150 in a day, so the 310 range EV I have ordered will be more than capable for me. If you had something like a Kona or Niro (or something similar with a heat pump), yeh not as flash as your S Class or Range, but with over 200 mile range you'd be just fine, especially if you could charge it at home on a 7kw charger. If the EV i have ordered (New Kona) is delivered in time me and my friends are travelling from Birmingham - St Andrews and back in it for a week in May. Yes we will need some public chargers but that will be done when we stop for toilets/food etc as we would have to in a petrol car

[@andregoncalves5100]

Just plug it in at night. People make it sound dramatic, you do it every night with your phone, just plug the car in at home

[@Robertarcher2035]

@@andregoncalves5100lucky if you live in a home you can charge it at . A lot of good working honest people don’t have that luxury . Charge only at public charging points and the whole economic and egalitarian point goes out the window . Then it becomes an unfair tax on the poorer of society . Then comes revolt . Witness London City cameras . Careful what you promote . Little hobbit .

[@Robertarcher2035]

Lucky you can be in the position to order an automobile . Think of those who cannot .

[@gregcooper2719]

@@Robertarcher2035 what are you on about? My comment is calling out the sweeping generalisations about all EVs with no thought for circs or work arounds. I used my own position as an example of my experience and understanding

[@santana9537]

i4 M50 is possibly the only EV that would tempt me Think it looks better than the m440i gran coupe too

[@RS.Outdoors]

Was just watching Harrys Garage where he has went back to a diesel Range Rover and you are going to and EV :)

[@narniebone1332]

Yeah Harry gave a very interesting review and hits the nail on the head great bit of motoring journalism.

[@gypsyemperor7535]

​@@narniebone1332opinion of a multi millionaire counts for little

[@narniebone1332]

@@gypsyemperor7535 why would his wealth have anything to do with it

[@markrathbone179]

I agree, I also watched Harrys review and it was spot on, best Motoring journalist on KZbin@@narniebone1332

[@gypsyemperor7535]

@@narniebone1332 the rich can afford to keep ruining the planet

[@MetalVII]

But if you charged it the previous night, you’d have no worries Mat (Apologies if that’s the incorrect spelling). Tesla have it right with their “ABC” system; Always Be Charging

[@chrishart8548]

Well just charge when you get home each day.

[@ScouseSponge]

Aqua did have a few certified bangers! enjoyable video as always! My wife has a 2022 kia soul, winter range is 220 miles 260+ in the summer. Great little car but still requires charging every 3 days or so.

[@Brian-om2hh]

so 60 to 70 miles a *day* ? That's around three times the average UK daily commute. You are clearly the exception....

[@grantwebster8157]

We had one EV Evangelist in our family , she is a school teacher and talked for several years about buying an electric car and told us all we needed to buy one NOW . 18 months ago she got a full electric skoda enyaq on a PCP . after one year of nightmare, of range anxiety and 3 times being stranded plus costly and time consuming charging driving the 620 mile round trip to visit her father. She has changed it for a petrol skoda at enormous financial cost . Our conclusion is that for all but the committed enthusiast that makes the use of their car their main focus and passion the currant generation of electric cars and electric infrastructure are not fit for purpose. Hydrogen and CNG look to be far more user friendly solution. Running my 119g co2 bmw 520d for another 10 years looks a lot better for the planet than building an electric car anyway.

[@robertheywood5523]

I was putting my car in for a service last November when one of the salesmen approached me. “Have you thought about replacing your car with an EV?”, I told him that I visit my sister who lives near Penzance. Quick as a flash he say “think of the money you would save on fuel”. I said “I, but the hotel bills would be through the roof” I live in North Cumbria - 950 mile round trip, + I’m the cemetery side of 70

[@andymccabe6712]

Er, what you SHOULD do is ...FLY to Cornwall ...from Manchester......!!

[@robertheywood2553]

@@andymccabe6712 Done it a couple of times from Newcastle to Newquay.

[@MichaelMorley-d1e]

Never miss the opportunity to charge at home overnight, you always start the day with your best range.

[@Jeffrey.shorts64]

A.B.C

[@carlgardiner3626]

Mate I know u love your range rovers. Fairplayed as I do too. I'd love to see u test the new Kia 4x4. Ev9 I think it's called. Keep the videos coming. Think I have completed both your channel and tranformotion. Well done bud, all the very best x

[@Brian-om2hh]

I think Matt already has driven one.....

[@pgarrish]

Charge it overnight. Yes you do have to be a little bit more prepared with an EV, but that Kia has a tiny battery and probably still goes nearly as far on a charge as his 5ltr RR around town.

[@richardshiggins704]

The Soul was not a bad car and still is especially with the most recent 2023 model having a 64kWh battery . The range is definitely much improved and the styling is quirky enough to make it quite appealing , like the i3 back in it's day .

[@gypsyemperor7535]

But he has a biased agenda, so using a modern capable ev with 200 plus Mike range doesn't suit the AGENDA

[@Sukkulents_]

@@gypsyemperor7535I can’t take anyone who says ‘Agenda’ seriously. His point was that it was a cheaper used vehicle with low mileage. It’s what the average person is expected to be driving given the broad push to EVs despite their batteries making their prices unaffordable for many in the first 3 years of their lifespan. That was his point

[@135Ops]

@@gypsyemperor7535 Modern capable EV's with a 200 mile plus agenda are too expensive for the majority of his buyers so it's fair enough to use this Kia as an example. Sounds to me like it's you that has the agenda.

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@135Ops Matt's Soul will almost certainly find a buyer, although there are other options "out there" too, such as the extremely clean 2016 Renault Zoe, with 35k miles on it I saw someone gat for £4400 a few weeks back....

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@135Ops You'd probably find that most who choose a new EV don't buy, they lease. And there are a couple of reasons for that. 1. Leasing side-steps pretty much all of the effects of depreciation if you're good with the Monthly cost of the lease. 2. You get the opportunity to upgrade to the newer updated model at the end of the lease - usually 3 or 4 years.

[@pprc5363]

If I was a used Car dealer, I would drive around in whatever old Clunker came in part exchange. As long as it has 6 Months MOT, drive it until the MOT expires, then scrap it.

[@scrubplaceholder6216]

You do know there are EV's with like 4 times the range of this car, and are able to charge like 800km per hour. More then enough for all your commutes and much more.

[@skarpheinnsmundsson9741]

Indeed and some capable of quite alot more then 800km per hour.

[@MarkFord-ho8vi]

I think most people accept that Evs are perfect for some people but there are huge questions currently Cost price Range (stated against actual ) Repair cost (out of warranty) Repair times Depreciation Charging network Battery degeneration Insurance cost Most evs are brand new , how will they perform when 15-20 years old Battery replacement cost Tyre wear And there are many others

[@stevenlawrie7819]

I went from a Merc SLK to a Tesla Model 3 SR+ I've done many long journeys including a weekend return trip to Darlington from Plymouth, 750 miles charged twice no issues. Keep it on % rather than miles. Won't ever go back to and ICE car.

[@harrystephens]

There are some excellent points in this video regarding living with EVs (especially public charging); however, your experience of an EV would be improved if you didn't use one of the first EV models that came to the UK. This car is 8 years old, and technology has moved on considerably. Most people charge their EV at home with a 22kw charger overnight, and that's where the electricity is cheap, so the EV is a financially sensible option.

[@johncarnie3726]

As a “retired” person, it makes good sense! The replacement for my current hybrid will be an EV (as long as the kids haven’t sent me to the nursing home) and given how used EV’s have tanked I’ll be able to pick up a late model for little cost and it will be my last car ever!

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

Don't do it. If you do you will spend hours waiting for the dangerous thing to charge before catching fire or exploding. Why do you think the values of these abysmal cars has tanked? Because no one in their right mind would buy one. Check out the videos of EV fires they are far more frequent than in ICE cars and burn much hotter giving off toxic poisonous fumes over a wide area

[@stephenclay6852]

Hate to tell you this but most cars Ev or petrol have tanked. But yes having had two Ev’s being retired they make way more sense especially if you can charge at home.

[@dionroos9159]

From every EV you could get, this is the one you pick? Have mercy, haha.

[@Brian-om2hh]

This was the only EV Matt had in stock at the time. He had no others to pick from.....

[@justinsymonds8470]

Your accountant is right! I’ve owned two evs, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes EQC. UNBEATABLE for running costs and plenty of power and torque. they make the BEST daily cars. I can’t see me going back to combustion for a daily ever again tbh.… I’m sure that Kia is fine but try an ev with specs that match up to that of performance cars…. You won’t be disappointed!

[@brunozlopasa1106]

And resale value zero when leasing companies figure out they cant sell these second

[@justinsymonds8470]

@@brunozlopasa1106 dont buy it! why would anyone in their right mind buy an EV? lease it of course, resale value is irrelevant on a lease, drive it enjoy it save money, hand it back and pick a new one when the lease it up.

[@garethbain7477]

Certified Bangers!!! Lovely stuff!

[@HighPeakAutos]

Classic queen

[@jcfallows]

You need a performance long range Tesla, that would be an interesting looking term test for you.

[@MarkXHolland]

Apples to apples. A Tesla Model X would have been a better match for a V8 Range Rover, and you would have had the seamless advantage of the Supercharger network.

[@jamesonslow]

Nice, fair assessment, Matt. I was nearly convinced but you got me at the £/mile figure. Ok and there's the range issue. For practical and affordable motoring, I use and maintain a high mileage mid-2000s diesel. Sadly, nothing comes close.

[@xx9587]

Loved your comment about paying tax. We need to accept that its a good thing to pay tax as without it we would not have all the things society needs to function.

[@skinneramble8613]

The Kona has a 280 mile range, charge it at 9p/kWh overnight, little more than 2p a mile. And the nice drive you get in an EV. You do need a 7kW charger at home to make the best of it.

[@FrankParr-t6v]

Absolutely right, first decent EV is quite a revelation isn't it?

[@davidcannon1144]

I live in a flat. With 44% in the UK in the same boat. cheap driveway charging isn't going to happen. EV is an exclusive club for people with driveways

[@seany8787]

You’d be a fool to have an EV and only rely on a public network. There would be nothing better than coming out of your house in the morning and jumping into an already toasty warm, fully charged EV while everyone else struggles with frozen cars. My biggest bugbear with EV driving is that people assume if you have an EV car you aren’t interested in cars. They aren’t mutually exclusive. My current car is actually a diesel for the range and the fact I cant afford a remote control car let alone a new car. But, if I had the money, I’d have an EV for my boring commute stuck in traffic, and have a petrol powered car for the weekend blasts. Something classic like a Lancia Integrale.

[@seany8787]

@@davidcannon1144 in the UK, the figure is that around 2/3s of dwellings have access to a driveway. In even the most congested towns and cities, that figure is still around 44%. That is far more than the current takeup of EVs. In the future those who live in flats like yourself will find that more and more street furniture such as lampposts will have chargers, not to mention workplaces. If your car is sat out in the street it can be charged, if you are otherwise at work, it can be charged. There are ways and means coming, but I appreciate it might not suit. I dont mind EVs but I dont want one as an only car, I want the 5 litre petrol for the weekend too. At the minute though, I have a diesel hack hatchback for the range….

[@mustajabzuberi4916]

I think hybrids are the way to go, you're free from range anxiety and it's efficient.

[@StormeeSkyes]

A decent used Tesla Model 3 can be had for around 25k now with the long range having 300miles+ range of battery. Come off a roundabout onto a nice long straight stretch of dual carriageway and floor the tesla. Then report back about how much you miss your V8 after trying that.

[@michele8039]

if straight line speed and speeding tickets are your only unit of measurement for how enjoyable to drive a car is, then more power to you. some of us like sounds, manual gearboxes, handling dynamics, stuff like that.

[@brunozlopasa1106]

After i go on autbahn and put it 200kpm when you go 110 and lose 70 percent of battery and battery degragation of 50 percent after few years report me then

[@Narses3]

@@brunozlopasa1106 clueless old man thinks an ev battery is just like his mobile phone battery, pathetic mindless sheep blindly accepting what the media tells him.

[@stephendavies6949]

"Asbestos clouds everywhere" & "Romelley would've been like Chernobyl". Classic Matt. You really are giving EVs a fair chance. But your experiences show they aren't quite there yet. Apart from for the metropolitan elite, who sadly make the rules for the rest of us.

[@robbiestruys9127]

So..charging takes hours... Charging stations are unreliable. If you have no smartphone, your ev is worthless. If it's chilly you lose 15 pct range. Playing your music, turning on heated seats eats into your range. If it's too hot, you lose range. Batteries are toxic for the environment. Batteries degrade over time and are verrrreeee expensive to replace. Electricity has to be generated somewhere, somehow and it's not free and not exactly green. ...And some people call this progress ...? It's madness. Pure lunacy.

[@dmn1000000]

What bollocks. Charging takes 40 minutes at a rapid charger. Most modern EVs have heat pumps that heat the car much quicker than an ice car and make almost zero difference to the range. Ice cars are toxic to the environment, what do you think comes out the exhaust, febreeze scented oxygen? Batteries degrade very little over time - there are still 10 year old Teslas with 300k miles being sold on Autotrader. No EVs aren't completely carbon neutral, but they're much better for the environment than ICE cars - that is scientific fact.

[@roberthartley6629]

Just get a wee Renault ZOE 180 real world miles. Charging in public points is 22kw AC so 1/2 the price of rapid chargers. Or get the CCS version (slower than others like the corsa). With the ZOE and a phase 3 at work it will be charged in 2-3 hours unless you are on nothing left but you would not so that anyway.

[@Paris__]

Brilliant car👍

[@stephenbibby8650]

I’m glad as I’m old as I am. The golden years of motoring are gradually fading into the distance and the future is distinctly depressing.

[@scrubplaceholder6216]

Yeah, i'd love to drive a v8 every day, but burning fuel is just not sustainable long term.

[@EwanM11]

Go test drive a Tesla model 3 performance, fix your depression.

[@stephenbibby8650]

Ok so just imagine the the iconic car chase scene from the film Bullitt with two EV’s . The sound of those V8’s made the movie,

[@_mattx5_500]

Evs are good. I love petrol as well... however, the only issue with EVs now for me, especially in my area of Yorkshire, is that there just isn't the infrastructure yet.

[@grahamfrost3360]

Loved this video. I drive a Jaguar I pace. It has a longer range is very well equipped and ridiculously fast. Give it a try. You might like it

[@robd1339]

I think you chose an EV guaranteed not to be adequate for your needs and then failed to charge it overnight at home each night to maximise it's limited ability. I have run a kia e niro 64kWh for the last 2 years and it is the best car I have ever had. Plenty of range and no anxiety. I just plug it in at home overnight when it gets down to 100miles or so. Completely effortless to drive and own!

[@mickgee3489]

Always charge when you can then Yorkshire, not a problem

[@AnItalianGuyOnYT]

here to stop people from saying "first".

[@patrickbateman9197]

I know. I couldn't stop myself. Something took over me and made me do it.

[@CathodeRayNipplez]

I second that 🤣

[@PointNemo9]

First

[@paulmcgee1867]

First

[@paulmcgee1867]

Personally I think if you are living where the car can be charged, the default should be to charge it

[@MrNelmo2]

As you said, the solution is to have 2 cars; an EV for day to day and a fun ICE car for the weekend. That Kia had a crap range but you could easily live with that - just leave it on charge for 15 minutes every now and then through the day; little and often, you don't need to brim it every time. You'll appreciate the RR more, put less miles on it so it won't break down as much (😉) and save a fortune in petrol. Win, win....

[@Nick_G7IZR]

"Quite a high spec" = less range. A heated steering wheel and heated seats, whilst nice to have "up north" just sap the battery. Maybe they should include a little petrol generator in the boot to power the heater 😁

[@davidquinn5906]

Honestly, worrying about heated seats, lights and the radio draining the battery is a bit like worrying you left the tap running on the Titanic. It's nothing.

[@Nick_G7IZR]

@@davidquinn5906 It's 10%! Doesn't matter on a short run, but it would matter if you had to go any distance

[@shawing]

But you already know that it is a bit limited on range when you get in it..? Think it might have been the main heating that was doing that anyway, the heated seats and wheel are meant to be more efficient I think so I'd use that personally.

[@davidquinn5906]

@@Nick_G7IZR I was answering your point about heated seats etc. But I guess Kia cheaped out by not fitting a heap pump for the main heating which is bad.

[@Nick_G7IZR]

4:20 @woolychewbakker5277 Take a look at his video again. Start at 4:20 where he turns his climate off and gets 10% more range. Now he may be exaggerating slightly, but that's where I got it from. Complain to Matt 😀

[@ianconvery4213]

What did I get from this video? If you've got the dosh, don't by an 8 year old EV, get one with a decent range and have a proper charging point installed at home. Mine has a range of 250 miles and I've got an EV friendly tariff which means a full charge is usually around nine quid. I've had the car fifteen months and haven't spent a penny on it. I've got a Brera parked up in the garage for sh*ts and giggles and I've virtually stopped using it.

[@petersmitham8273]

As a retired oldie I’ll stick with my diesel Renner, no tax , 54mpg , 3 minute fill ups and no anxiety about turning the heater off to get home…😂❤😂😅

[@jaroslavtomik]

I love your videos but this one felt like you were making a review of all petrol cars based on a week with Fiat Multipla 🤣 Looking forward to a proper review with a Tesla S/3/X/Y

[@cabottaxi]

I use my BMW 2.0D and it is marvellous. 4 wheel drive , no range anxiety , no sliding all over the road and a return journey from Aberdeen to Edinburgh is a doddle in one day without stopping for charging / coffee breaks. Did the journey from Southampton where I bought it right up to Edinburgh in one go.

[@davidwhiteman4649]

Also possible in an EV. There is a KZbinr called Richard Symons who drove a Tesla Model Y from Edinburgh to Bournemouth without recharging.

[@JD-29]

Evs dont slide around, my tesla handles like a dream

[@andrewlouca8015]

Matt if you try the experiment again but with an EV that suits your milage needs and charge it like most EV owners do i.e overnight while you are sleeping it will be considerably cheaper than any petrol or diesel car and you will never be waiting to pay in a petrol station. My last 3 cars were 2 BMW 5 series(520i owned 10 years, 530d Touring 3years and a RR TD6 The Range Rover I had from 3 years old until it was 15 years old but would never go back. I do around 60 miles a day for work and can go 3 days without charging but usually charge every 2 days just so I never get low enough to be concerned about range. I have only used a public charger once when on holiday. The longest single trip I have done in the EV was 250 miles from Bucks to Margate and back on a single charge with 33 miles left in the battery. food for thought. I still enjoy the channel.

[@gregg.d]

Had a Mini Cooper S EV for 48hours from Halliwell Jones, and it was a good comparison to our petrol Cooper S; performance wise it was identical, and infact quite hilarious launching away from traffic lights. But the range and extra planning would get on my nerves after a while. They reckon 140 miles is expected but I was closer to 120 with mixed driving and aircon/heated seats on as usual. I have seen people getting a range of 70 miles from a full charge, which you can easily burn through in a Mini Cooper S.

[@Brian-om2hh]

But be honest, you wouldn't choose a Mini if you were planning lots of long motorway journeys, would you? The Mini is marketed as a convenient town and city car, not a motorway cruiser.

[@gregg.d]

@@Brian-om2hh just completed 962 miles in 7 days around mid/south Wales on fast A roads & the M4 in a 2023 Countryman Cooper S and it was extremely comfy.

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@gregg.d It's good you found the Mini comfortable. A friend of mine bought a new Mini Countryman a couple of years back, and I've sat in the front as a passenger. Sadly, I found it anything but comfortable. The seats - particularly the seat bases - didn't feel large enough. I felt as though I was sat *on* them, rather than *in* them..... Compared to my Golf Mk7, the Countryman's ride seemed choppy, and far from smooth.

[@chrishar110]

@@gregg.d You could do the same journey with the electric MINI and charge at the hotel while you were in bed. Every decent hotel I've been has chargers

[@gregg.d]

@@chrishar110 there was no chargers where I was staying, and I think I only saw two down in Carmarthen. Infact, I don’t recall seeing many electric cars in general.

[@deaks25]

I love the idea of an EV for commuting, especially an EV motorcycle; as they are hilariously rapid and apparently comfortable in a way no ICE motorcycle can match, but I think Matt is right; for it to work well, the EV is a second/commuter car and one of the fall-outs from the pandemic and increase in home/flexible working is many people ditched the second car, which was usually the little city commuter that an EV would be perfect for. And because they're so dammed expensive to buy, I can never justify an EV. Spending the fun car/bike budget on a commuter is just backwards. And come next year, the whole no road tax thing goes out the window as well...

[@cucurezenita]

So funny seeing you at the charger😂 I own an EV for almost 1 year and I'm so used to it. And you get those £5 back. You didn't mention that... And I have a Hyundai Kona: Winter 230-250 miles Summer or warm: 280-300 miles in one charge

[@michaelbushell4356]

We own one car. It’s a PHEV. All the advantages of an EV in town and none of the drawbacks on a long journey. One car is better for the environment owning two. You’re going to need proper charging points in the business and at home. Relying on the normal three pin plug isn’t viable. Also, the one thing I know from EV owners is whatever car you have, it needs an air heater so that you don’t drain your battery. Better EVs can be preheated too.

[@Bikeops2021]

Did you get a free jumper with the EV+ brake pads? 😂😂

[@Brian-om2hh]

Why would you need brake pads? My neighbours Hyundai Ioniq lasted 90k miles before it's brake pads were changed.

[@Bikeops2021]

@@Brian-om2hh was he called Mr Litefoot?

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@Bikeops2021 no particular need for a light foot. EV's have regenerative braking.... Select the appropriate level of regen for the driving you do, and you'll hardly ever touch the brakes.

[@damonrobinson80]

Great video, well done team. Shame Matt didn’t massively overspend as well😊

[@TrevM0nkey]

You say they're great for running about locally but the Kia Soulless start at 32k. EV's like that would be great for running about if they were the same price as an ICE car, but you're never going to get value for money nipping to Bingo and Lidl twice a week, in a 32k car.

[@Hali88]

if you bought a new one, yes, but he was testing a 9 year old one which will not cost £32k!

[@TrevM0nkey]

@@Hali88 but a new one is 32k. and when new, they have the same range. when new, they're still great for running locally. It doesn't matter if this one is a second hand car or not, a 32 grand car shouldn't just be great for running around locally. They don't come off the production line 8 9years old so somebody has to buy them new. I'd rather spend 20k on a decent second hand petrol car and have 12k to spend on fuel.

[@Brian-om2hh]

@@Hali88 Exactly. I saw someone get a 2016 Renault Zoe with 35k miles on it, for £4400 not long ago.... Why do so may people assume you have to get a *new* EV? There are decent used ones around now....

[@Petelmrg]

@@TrevM0nkey- a new one will give you 250+ miles of range, more if you use it in town; things have changed in nine years.

[@youraveragejoe1]

@@Brian-om2hhhe got a very good deal then. On auto trader, 2016 Zoe’s with 35k miles on are going for about 7 grand. Not that bad but certainly not the norm for the price he paid