I TESTED THE NEW ARCDOME TENT... in Extreme Wind

[@JustinOutdoors]

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[@chadbrow]

For 4 minutes I still thought it was the new Durston tent.

[@ISOwren]

same

[@stevemartin8994]

Yeah, he mentions X Dome at 1:47

[@Colby168]

Yeah, but when it didn’t snap in the wind I realized it wasn’t 🤣.

[@Colby168]

Update, this one 1️⃣ guess broke too 🤣. I’ll stick to my Nemo.

[@kpj5]

Yes I was nearly there but sticking with my 3f Ul big Agnes .. mind u the new Nemo looks good 😂

[@tarptent]

Great video Justin! For anyone wondering about the line lock clip that broke, the only clip-style line locks included with the tent come attached the cords that are included to make the tent fully free-standing when the doors are open. Those cords can be used as quick attach and tension-able guy lines since the hooks clip nicely to the rings, but for strong winds knots are the better option as the clip-style line locks are not nearly as strong as the standard ones.

[@durstongear]

Looks nice. Gorgeous shot at 5:58

[@Kevin-ib3io]

Ha! Wonder how that other tent did 🤔

[@TheRealShinto]

yours look better ngl

[@KaneDoesOutdoors]

@@TheRealShinto The X-mid has a great aesthetic for sure!

[@KaneDoesOutdoors]

Good eye Dan!

[@alexk1486]

DAN SEES ALL △

[@andypammenter8528]

TBH your reviews were like all the other ones on KZbin, what was great was to hear a new dad talking about missing his new daughter, so take her with you and have wonderful adventures. We don't quite have your remote scenery here in the UK but from aged two onwards I took my little girl camping in the hills and mountains and they were some of the best memories ever 😀😀😀

[@Rob-Eckert]

I really appreciate your collaborations with Kane!

[@paulred158]

Living in the world’s windiest city It’s good to see this stood up to a gentle breeze :)

[@scottroach2418]

Regarding the neo loft, I think this new fabric will be a game changer for air pads. The stretchiness makes it far quieter and less bouncy and thus more comfortable than any current fabric being used on an air only pad. Once they start designing lighter pads for backpacking with this fabric, it's going to change the whole game.

[@zhengfffei9158]

arcdome deserves more attention than it does right now, looks like a solid lightweight option for non-extreme winter use, look forward to a review in snow

[@JustinOutdoors]

Tarptent doesn't really send out tents for review, so you don't see much coverage of them. This is the first time they have said "yes" to a tent request I made. It's too bad because they make some awesome tents!

[@drytool]

I wouldn't consider it lightweight relative to other options.

[@wolfeadventures]

@@JustinOutdoorsHenry is particular about this. You are lucky to be in the club now. 👌🏻

[@ewik939]

I’m from Scandinavia and yep, interested in this tent because our conditions are often windy. Very good insight into your audience haha!

[@Derrenf66]

Excellent vid Justin, really enjoyed this concept.

[@syberspy9]

The finalized tent looks promising, hopefully it gets polished. I would like to see thermarest improve the insulation of their sleep pad and their sleeping bag eith improved quality allowing us to camp in colder weather and warm weather. The stove review was a bonus Justin, the quality of your videos is so bang on. Thanks! From red deer!

[@camillagro5125]

This tent is sooo beautiful - and well build!

[@wolfeadventures]

Glad to see Tarptents featured on your channel. They have some very interesting designs.

[@SirDankyMcMemerton]

Seems like plastic loops + lineloks on the arcdome could easily be done away with and just replaced with a bowline + adjustable hitch to eliminate that particular failure mode.

[@tarptent]

The line lock hooks clip nicely to the rings but for extreme conditions, we would recommend knots as the clip version of the line lock is not as strong as the typical webbing version. The rings are mainly there for ease of tying and untying lines especially with gloves on.

[@SirDankyMcMemerton]

@@tarptent Makes sense, I was wondering if part of the rationale was that tying knots in the cold sucks. Thanks!

[@malenve6vid]

One of your better videos to date.

[@BackcountryKiwi]

Nice to see you and kane out on a trip! Lots of interesting gear here! Not sure about MSR switch though. I agree it doesnt really fill much of a place in the market. Cheers!

[@kpj5]

Defo on that pad! Looks great .. more money 😅

[@MrTmax74]

Thanks for the reviews. That Therma rest pad definitely intrigues me. For its comfort level, it actually seems quite light. I would happily carry this around over my Nemo tensor. I could see getting it in the spring for my Moto camping. In the meantime, the pad has a chance to prove itself.

[@mojorisen1295]

I own 2 Tarptents, dynemma, and have used both in winter. Both are great even though they are not stated 4 season. Although I haven't tried them in high winds on a saddle, kinda asking for it. But they do hold snow and are the best for weight and strength. You can't go wrong with Tarptent, and their customer service is great! I know! After sending one back after a few whiskeys and a stove to close to the side. Yep, dynemma burns. But thank goodness for plenty of snow to put out the small burn. :o)

[@TheGibztang]

Another great video. Thanks for all the info you share and hard work you put into the videos. You’ve sure helped me a lot. So happy to hear you and the family are doing great

[@hike2fish]

Good review and comments, learned a lot.

[@MrRmacattack1]

You could have also put a trekking pole in the side that was getting the wind.

[@NikSivachev]

Hi Justin, loved the video and hope there will be more videos like it to come.

[@connorjames8866]

I really enjoyed this video style, and would love to see more like it. While individual great reviews are great, seeing how everything interacts as a system is even better. I also felt it was a great length for the amount of content you covered.

[@LisaTheWanderingGeordie]

Ive been looking at this tent, but just pre -ordered the Xdome 😁😁

[@olivern4784]

I also pre-ordered the Durston X-Dome 1+.

[@matthewclarke1812]

Me too - would love to see Justin review the X-dome... I'm sure he will in due course. X-dome is considerably lighter than the ArcDome.

[@JustinOutdoors]

email dan letting him know ;)

[@IanTheOutdoorGuy]

Your videos are amazing and the cool thing is I 100% believe you would hike even if youtube didn't exist this is a strenght. Keep up the amazing work my friend

[@JustinOutdoors]

Thanks Ian! I hiked before YT and will hike long after! Same with nerding out about gear. haha

[@magnusbergsson4417]

I live in Iceland, and i am very curious to hear your oppinion on if you think that the ArcDome is better than the Scarp 1 Ultra in dealing with wind. As you point out, wind is our biggest concern here. Have been leaning towards the Scarp 1 but this vid has me re-evaluating (again!). Thank you, big fan of this channel.

[@magnusbergsson4417]

If answering puts you in a strange position with Tarptent then i totally understand. Just thought you might have some insights. Still leaning more towards the Scarp as it is smaller lower wind volume to deal with. A 1p arcdome would totally mess me up 😮

[@bimazivanovic4784]

I think the Scarp would be stronger with those extra poles. It just has poles in more angles that the wind can come from so to say.

[@Iron-Outdoor]

Great video! Thanks!for sharing

[@craig3401]

I like the shape of the arc dome and it definitely handled the wind which we get a lot of here in the uk.the pole sleeves are a concern for me the entry looks way too narrow and the cross over is another there's no need for the gap and if anything it could causing rubbing of the poles.all the guy out points are great I'd attache the guy permanently as I'm not a fan of those hook type of guys.

[@JustinOutdoors]

Rubbing won't be an issues as that area is reinforced, but it'll be nice to see TT address the overlap area with a fabric arch and then the entry point.

[@craig3401]

@@JustinOutdoors what's the pack size like I understand the ultra doesn't pack as small as silnylon

[@michelebullock9867]

Great theme and video.

[@higler.]

That sleeping bag is absurd! LMAO who's asking for more zippers??

[@user-nu8uc8wq8v]

I had a look at the arc dome, in the end i decided on Durston’s X-dome. I’m glad i waited.

[@carhartt30]

I like the freestanding design, and the cool fabric, but the door looks tiny and oddly shaped.

[@JamesPinkston-ei1zs]

I'd love to see a side by side with the Durston x-dome.

[@soggywilson]

I'm very interested in that tent! and those views are incredible

[@leefamily7]

The neoloft looks so thick for the weight. Im surprised you didn’t find it that much more comfortable than the helix. If it isn’t, doesn’t seem worth the weight.

[@Algorythmfpv]

Impersonation is the highest form of flattery. Dan must be cheesin hahaha

[@Randolf4475]

Please use 3-5in flexible pieces of guylines, it reduce the noice and hold the tent materials in windy conditions tight and protects against damages.

[@RyanSchell]

1:44 I think even he is confused too. I think Justin says "X-Dome" here😂

[@JustinOutdoors]

You have no idea how hard it was to keep the two tents straight in my head. Doesn't help that the ArcDome looks like more of an X than the X-Dome.

[@RyanSchell]

Lol I was just thinking about that with the names too. Plus the timing of the drop of X-Dome videos. Look forward to your review of that tent as well

[@cuprajake1]

The arcdome is more of an xdome than the xdome 😂

[@JustinOutdoors]

@@cuprajake1 To top it off, the X-Dome has more of an Arc structure than the X-Dome. Maybe they should do a tradesies.

[@dannyknight8082]

​@@JustinOutdoors😂

[@danielsingh9415]

Wanted u to test the BRS with Flat Cat Gear's Ocelot windscreen, which all nests in ur cook pot: stove, fuel, lighter, windscreen, folding spork, carbon felt trivet/hot lid grabber etc coffee, tea, mylk & sweetener, soup 🍲 with add-ins

[@willek1335]

If you're doing tend wind tests in the future, I'd love to see you bring out a small handheld wind-measuring device, anenometer. It gives context, because the failure of a guy-out point only means something when we can compare it to a data point. I recommend Skywatch xplorer 1.

[@JustinOutdoors]

Definitely! I forgot both the ones I have. Haha

[@willek1335]

@@JustinOutdoors Ah, I know that feeling, all good. :D

[@carsonreid4165]

that's not an x-dome! great review Justin

[@noahhinson2784]

Do you have an estimate of the wind speeds you experienced? And do you think it could have handled significantly more with no issue?

[@Eric.BenderCA]

I just did Carnarvon Lake a few weeks ago - incredible views but MAN is it windy!!!

[@ScottBaker1]

Damnmmm that fleece pants modeling 👀

[@skpowerz]

I thought for sure your next video would be the new Durston tent. Are you going to review that one as well?

[@JustinOutdoors]

Dan only has one tent for pre-release reviews and I'm scheduled to get my grubby little hands on it at the end of October. So X-Dome content won't be out until November.

[@natesummers3280]

@@JustinOutdoors You called it the X-Dome at 1:46. Freudian slip? 😮😅😊 Great videos; really enjoy your content!

[@KathyColorado1]

@@JustinOutdoors Is that the same tent that Steve just broke? (video was out yesterday)

[@JustinOutdoors]

@@KathyColorado1 Same one, haha. But Dan has new poles incoming.

[@arielfeasts]

@@JustinOutdoors Sisterhood of the Traveling X-Dome

[@jjmcwill2007]

Great video. Would be interested to see you take the Durston X-Dome to the exact same spot for comparison.

[@madk51385]

So it seems like the comparison against the Durston gear X-dome for solo hikers isn't very good. The advantage seems to be that it is available with a solid inner, while the X-dome isn't (yet). The X-dome seems to have the advantage with vertical walls (due to crosspole), roomier inside with 1 side extended into the vestibule area, optional trekking pole reinforcement, and tons of little things like magnetic fly clips. On a brighter note though, I totally jumped at buying that thermarest neoloft pad after seeing that in this video. That looks worth the weight for sure

[@dcaudwell]

Apples to Oranges. The Arc Dome is a sturdier, 2 person tent built for gnarlier conditions - the limits will extend further into true 4 season reliability. The X-Dome is 1+, lighter weight, and the limits (of the CF poles) will be reached sooner in true 4 season conditions. Maybe Dan will release some DAC poles for deep 4 season use?

[@drytool]

X-Dome next!

[@Twigging_Around]

I like the in the element review rather then in a weird perfect, magically lit room.

[@nonservitium]

A loop of shock cord on those points will fix the stretching 😊

[@Nic_Chy]

Dude I literally slept in that exact same spot a couple months ago haha!

[@CombatBanana]

Damn Justin got dark there 😄

[@richardillingworth2271]

Think the x dome is a better thought out design in pretty much every area. That’s what I’ll be buying once the solid inner is made…..

[@themooseontheloose]

I was waiting to see you climb down that chain section. I nearly took a rock to the head climbing that.

[@Colby168]

I was thinking…I swear I just watched someone hike this same trail. I think it was you.

[@deanhambry5208]

Great video…..as I’m looking for a good 4 season backpacking tent

[@thomasowens5824]

New channel for me, Have you reviewed tents before??

[@JustinOutdoors]

Nope! First time! How'd I do!?

[@twinartifact263k3]

Where can you get that little white thermometer that shows how cold it was during the night

[@LostAgainwithJim]

I’m impressed with what I’ve seen from the ArcDome so far. How noisy did find the ultra fabric to be?

[@JustinOutdoors]

I didn't find there to be much noise rom the ultra fabric at all. The noise was more from the whooshing of the wind.

[@tgvaillancourt]

Have you checked out the naturehike R8.8 sleeping pad. I seen it on Amazon but can't find any reviews. Might be worth a test

[@natepaul5403]

Will the NeoLoft pad fit the Zenbivy sheet?!?!?

[@PokerMuppet]

Interesting that the Thermarest Neoloft pad is not listed or available through their own website.

[@JustinOutdoors]

REI has an exclusive on it until, I think, the end of 2024

[@JarradShaw]

21:03 - Justin, I can’t remember right now. Have you tried the Kilos Gear 5 R-value pad? It’s the blue one. I’m really curious what you think of that one. Devin has given it some really good reviews. For its size, weight, price and r-value I’m interested in it and intrigued what you think of it. Thanks for all your great videos. ❤

[@davidcooper8390]

I think companies are seeing that having a line of comfort focused backpacking gear does well in sales compared the UL gear.

[@robgo9702]

It's called the arcdome because Dan Durston was going to come out with the X-Dome. As for the inreach products, mobile/cellular phones are gaining sat comms capabilities so Garmin's offerings will soon be expensive bricks because people will spend heaps less on dedicated actual PLBs and combine that with their mobile/cellular phones for messaging purposes, and not bother with costly subscription fees from Garmin

[@TGo3736]

Alright then

[@cornwallelopements]

Tarptent launched there first inside before even Durston published anything about the xdome

[@TGo3736]

@@cornwallelopements ok

[@nickvanroon4993]

I like that pillow size, what pillow did you use on that trip? I didn't see it in the discretion.

[@connorjames8866]

What pack were you using on this trip?

[@manofsan]

Very scenic location - where in the Rockies is this place?

[@WYS2024]

I would like to watch your vid on the Durston X Dome tent .

[@JustinOutdoors]

email Dan letting him know ;)

[@TravelosophyTV]

What chair is that?

[@gnarshar]

Whats the thermometer you were using?

[@twinartifact263k3]

It took me ages to realise that it wasn’t the new Durston tent

[@androidrebel]

I don't see what exactly is the novelty in this tent's structural design... I have a very similar tent with two arcs crossing in outer sleeves and I've seen several others, so it looks like an established overall design. There are quite some nice details to it anyway, so it looks like a effective piece of gear 👍

[@mobilewintercamp7515]

On the prototype versions of the tent I noticed the inside zipper was very low compared to the apex. It looked like you couldn’t sit half in and out of the tent and do things like cook. Henry said it would be addressed, were you able to sit upright in the tent with the doors open with your feet outside to cook, change shoes etc? How tall are you? Very important to me on snow. Especially when the vestibule can be dug out and there’s no risk of bugs entering. Thanks. 😊

[@JustinOutdoors]

I didn't notice the apex being low. I'm 5'10. But I also don't use my vestibule to hang out in much.

[@pure6l155]

Where was this spot?

[@user-jq9lr9vc4f]

Nice review. Do you think that tent is better than the hilleberg Unna for bad weather in winter ?

[@JustinOutdoors]

No idea. I've never tried the Unna. Hilleberg isn't interested in having me test/review their tents. The Unna looks pretty sweet though.

[@lakorai2]

Arc-Dome vs X-Dome.....Fight!

[@studiopiko]

Great vid and views. What's the Rab coat, Justin?

[@JustinOutdoors]

geni.us/MythicG

[@jonahlevi3178]

What are The pants at 5:05? They look so cool

[@pipper_papper]

watched the entire video thinking it was the durston and even thought he misspoke when he said tarptent

[@ACiDGRiM]

Make sure you take your baby camping early. I took my 2yo snow camping, put him in a covered sled and went skiing to camp

[@Hassimal]

Where is this area?

[@foldem9235]

Did Durston not patent The offset tent design? That was very generous.

[@JustinOutdoors]

I was curious about that and read the patent. Durston's active patent covers off trekking pole tents but not freestanding.

[@foldem9235]

@JustinOutdoors wow...very thorough dude! Thx and now Subscribed!! Wait maybe not....Google pay hates me

[@drytool]

They should just do regular linelocks that girth hitch on with little loops for the tent.

[@tarptent]

The line lock that broke was never really intended to be used like that. The only clip-style line locks that come with the tent are the two attached to the two cords that are included so that the tent can be fully freestanding when the doors are open. Those cords and the clip-style line locks attached to them can be used as guy-lines, but for strong winds tying the cord directly into the ring is the better option, and is what we did in testing. The clip-stye line locks are not nearly as strong as standard line locks and are only really there to give the freestanding set-up adjustably. While they can clip to the rings that is not really the intended use.

[@drytool]

@@tarptent That makes sense, I've mostly seen those type of linelocs used for light duty removable stuff like clip-in bathtub floors. Read the instructions next time, Justin. Haha!

[@tarptent]

@@drytool It is kind of our fault. We did say the cords could be used as guy lines but were not clear enough about the strength difference of the clip-style line locks.

[@drytool]

@@tarptent Regardless, it's always good to find out the strengths and limitations of gear.😊

[@bjjanesth660]

What camp shoes are you wearing in this video? You like them?

[@JustinOutdoors]

geni.us/MEC-Camp-Slippers

[@UncleOutdoors]

I need a thick sleeping pad, thicker then the thermarest xterm nxt, but I also need it to be very warm. I easily get cold and I hate when I am sleeping on my side and my butt sinks in and therefore gets cold. That happens on my sea to summit ehterlight xt. Any suggestions? Maybe I need to use the nxt under and the neoloft on top. But that's kind of bulky.

[@drytool]

Carnarvon Lake, right?

[@themooseontheloose]

Yep

[@drytool]

@@themooseontheloose I love you handle!

[@VandrefalkTV]

Can't decide on your next drinking game? Join in on the latest drinking game; any time Justin talks about, refers to, misses, gets emotional, ties in babby n poo to gear, have a drink! See how it goes! Go back a little while, see if the liver survives! xD Haha. Jk dude, congrats and welcome to the family.

[@jeffhollis5438]

What are you're camp shoes?

[@JustinOutdoors]

geni.us/MEC-Camp-Slippers

[@fd3654]

👍👍👍!!!

[@larry_yang]

Is that a new Flextail pump?

[@JustinOutdoors]

It's the max pump 3. It moves a lot more air than the Mini or Zero and has a great light. I wanted something more substantial for the NeoLoft.

[@gedasltu]

I don’t think thermarest needs to make a premium version of the boost 650. I saw it in person at ISPO show and talked to the salesperson and the reason this exists is that it’s meant for people seeking pure comfort and not something like high-performance bag. It’s meant to be somewhat more affordable, more universal and invite more people to try camping without sacrificing comfort. It has its place, let it be, but time will tell how it will be acceptable by wider audiences.

[@Big_Shonk]

What dehydrated meal was that? Also Whats the rab coat? Thanks Justin

[@JustinOutdoors]

Alpineaire. jacket geni.us/MythicG

[@dadassery8506]

Those sleeves are very coleman tent

[@joelmiller569]

I'm wondering when you're going to start designing your own gear...

[@JustinOutdoors]

I have been playing around with an idea where I take a "concept car" approach to gear. I partner with a manufacturer to create a crazy tent or pack or whatever that pushes the limits of technology and features with little regard for cost. It would maybe result in some cool products but at least would showcase what can be done when really trying to push the limits of gear design.

[@MeMe-cd1wy]

What is brand of your fuchsia slippers?

[@JustinOutdoors]

geni.us/MEC-Camp-Slippers

[@rag_nar]

It's the first time I see the rei flash air pack. Do you like it?

[@JustinOutdoors]

It's so-so. I'll have a video coming out comparing it to the Flash 55

[@MitchKirkham]

TBH I don’t love how this tent blatantly appears to have ripped off Durston Gear’s floor plan which they have built so much of their brand and ethos on. I totally get that there is plenty of copying that goes on but it just feels a little crummy - not something I would like to support myself. Especially with how close the naming is to the X-Dome. I remember reading the placeholder on the first in website warning about this and wondering who was trying to copy their designs - I guess now I know. I would have loved to see this acknowledged in the video and was a little disappointed that it was left out. Hopefully you can mention it in the X-Dome video in Oct/November when you get your hands on the sample.

[@JustinOutdoors]

Companies build off of other designs. The X-Mid was likely inspired by the Sierra Designs High Route and the Tarptent Stratospire but no one gets upset when those two tents aren't referenced. The ArcDome was also likely inspired by several tents with offset floorplans and 4-season dome-style capabilities. I think it's great to recognize that tent manufacturers are constantly iterating and improving on each others designs, but for the sake of a KZbin video, I don't think I can commit to going through the genealogy of a product every time I mention it.

[@cornwallelopements]

I think Tarptent published way earlier the arc dome on their instagram. There was at this time no X Dome online. Durston copies with the x dome inner parts of the copper spur and Msr Hubba Hubba. The outer design is inspired by the 3ufl gear Taiji. They featured also the extra supportive trekking pole solution in their 1 person version. Slingfin Portal was probably one of Durstons inspirations too.

[@jorisev]

Seeing some comments, I'd say there is no point in trying to compare this to the new Durston tent. These are not competing products. TT ArcDome is 2p, 2 vestibules, specifically aimed at 4 season use. Durston X-Dome is 1p, 1 vestibule, specifically aimed at ultra-light 3 season use (with the claim that you could push it to 4 seasons, but it simply does not have the features to be a true 4-season tent). Even the structure is different, with the TT ArcDome being an actual 'dome' so 2 arch poles, and the Durston X-Dome pole structure being more like a hubba hubba. The names are confusing, but if anything the TT is more of a proper dome than the Durston. Nonetheless, it's great to see that tent innovation is not dead, both companies are to be appreciated for that :-)