I Think My Contractor Made ($100K+) Mistakes

[@benkent3883]

I install AGI products everyday. They are good products. Everything in this video that you have mentioned are very concerning. The overhead conveyors are usually only rated for a 5% incline max, anything over that you start losing capacity. The catwalks under them conveyors if they were an AGI product are built by Brownie, they are built a lot heavier built then the one under there now. Usually leg towers are engineered for the specific leg that is going inside of them. It would not surprise me if that leg tower isn't engineered to even have the second leg inside of it. Usually when catwalks are to be hooked to leg towers its supposed to be tied into the leg tower itself not a platform hanging off the side of the leg tower. The support towers on the side of the bins should be straight up and down from the ground all the way to the top. We tie our support towers off every 20' to a bracket bolted across the stiffener on the side of the bin. Welding to the bolt head isn't going to hold very much and usually the bottom of the tower should touch the ground so it transferring some of the weight back to the ground. Those are homemade support towers not Brownie towers. Usually everything we build goes through an engineer at AGI before we even sell it. Hope this answers some of your questions.

[@joelhansen7373]

Wow! Cole’s suspicions confirmed by someone with lots of experience. But still, probably not what Cole wanted to hear!

[@pawtasticdadof532]

Hope Cole see's this.

[@dzender500]

Brent does AGI have quality engineers available to perform on-site inspection of bin sites that have been constructed by their authorized distributors? Usually reputable companies do not want to have their reputation tarnished by distributors that cut corners.

[@jayheiman7388]

@@dzender500 well considering he’s got a KZbin channel I’m sure it’ll get fixed.

[@PenfookioGaming]

sounds like contractors cutting corners to save money thus i stopped working as an electrician. first year apprentice and i told our foremen this isn't to code. Guess what i was told do it that way till the inspector catches it.

[@andythehomefarmcornwallfar28]

Hi Cole. I was a Civil and Structural Engineer for many years and even though it was in the UK many things stay true. The first thing you should do is request the structural calculations for the supporting elements just to check what the design loading conditions are. You can do this prior to engaging your own checking engineer as it will help to speed up getting the whole process under way. Requesting as built drawings is normal but I can tell you they may not reflect what is actually built as contractors do not want to pay for a structural survey of what is erected. Your checking engineer can then ensure that 1) the loading conditions are appropriate and 2) the built structure has been constructed correctly. I don't know about in the USA but in the UK we often have independently designed support structures for manufactured products (AGI in this case) as the manufacturer has literature on the loading/ support requirements. Turning to the support legs - welds are much stronger than many people imagine but that being said some look like welds that were done just to get the structure up and may have been forgotten. The end plates are carrying the load to the ground and do not need to touch the concrete and indeed it could be argued should not. The fact it is short will allow condensation etc to drain out so reducing rusting especially if the top is open to the elements. The supporting of the walkway etc on the top of the bin would need to be looked at by an engineer to ensure that the bins can take this loading and would need to consider various loading conditions. Addressing the two bolts through the base plates - I wouldn't expect to see them located like this as they are normally central on a plate but this is known as a pin joint base connection and is meant to stop certain forces being created at the base of a column. Eccentric loading on the support structure is possible and may be necessary but as I cannot see the whole construction in person I can't tell if its correct so GET A LOCAL EGININEER! When you do engage a local engineer to check everything make sure they are proficient in contracts as this will also help although it will add some costs. I hope this helps a bit and gives you the encouragement to get independent help on board. Lastly - DO NOT PAY THE CONTRACTOR ANY MORE MONEY UNTIL ITS FINISHED. Again not sure how it works over there but usually the last payment is the profit payment so hold on until you are satisfied. Please note these are just my opinions based on my experience and what I have seen in the video.

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Thanks for giving him your thoughts!

[@HuntsChris]

Great advice, now all he needs is a top notch QS to go to bat for him 😉.

[@janetanderson8719]

OMG!! Wasn’t there a professional there when this monstrosity was being built. How can it get as far as it is without regular inspection from an AGI engineer knowing that it is a million dollar contract? Don’t pay them a thin dime until you are completely satisfied with an AGI okay in black and white!

[@andythehomefarmcornwallfar28]

@@janetanderson8719 People don't think of engaging their own engineer to manage these sorts of things as generally its straightforward farm building. My advice would always be to engage your own engineer especially on a contract of $500k or more. I only just realised when I saw this video that it would appear that Cornstar Farms didn't do this. Its really hard as a customer to argue with what is being constructed if you have no qualifications in the subject due to the contractor and others saying that you don't know what you are talking about even if you do! AGI wouldn't need to inspect anything other than the elements they supplied and probably only then it would be if something isn't working correctly unless it was an AGI design for the whole thing.

[@janetanderson8719]

@@andythehomefarmcornwallfar28 I understand that most people wouldn’t do a lot of things, but knowing in the front that you’ve got a million dollar project doesn’t apply to most people. If he started with AGI on the build they should be responsible for there work, whether they do it or they contract it out.

[@MakeItSo-ThisIsME]

Great work Cole, it's perfectly fine to have concerns about structural issues on a project as big as yours. As a Structural Engineer, you should have a signed off document about the Catwalk, Leg Tower, etc. If you don't, then that means the Contractor shortcut the project. I can personally say in my opinion, those Tower legs and support structures do NOT meet code, the upper weight of the structure itself would not hold for long upon such a weak foundation. I would agree to NOT finish paying anything until a Certified Structural Engineer signs off on what the has been finished to make sure it does meet Code. That's my thoughts and I hope everything goes well moving forward, your awesome Cole!

[@Blueriverfarms]

pschuman21 would you also recommend that the farm hire a local independent Structural Engineer to inspect and provide a written report of all the defects and code violations? As a former construction project manager this would have taken place upon my seeing all the defects months ago with the the structure assembly. Great example of buying good materials is only half the battle and you need good workmanship to assemble those materials, or you will have a pile of scrap metal after poor assembly. Based only on what is seen in the video; It is possible the cat walk structure could be weaken and come apart after a few major wind storms? Prediction; the contractor and dealer will not finish the job and the farm will need to hire another contractor to finish the work on these bins. I would be having a conversation with the President of the Bin Manufacture asking them if this is their dealer's best work constructing these bins in such a negative light. Also, the Bin dealer had an obligation to put both the farm and the Bin Manufacture on legal notice that manufacture parts were being substituted out in order to save the contractor money in the plans and in contract; did this take place? The contract and plans should have shown and said GSI part # will be replaced and substituted by custom made part supply by dealer; so you would have the opportunity to ask questions as why substitutions were being made and if said substitutions were equivalent to the GSI equipment? It looks like the bin dealer cut corners to save or make more money at the expense of safety and most important the advertised functionality and volume of the pit and conveyors?

[@Torthak]

Also keep your lawyer informed as to the issue's your having, both to cover your butt, and possible breach of contract by your GC/Subs

[@MakeItSo-ThisIsME]

@@Blueriverfarms Well yes, the Structural Engineer would have to be Independent from the Contractor. The hard part with all of this is, that AGI hired out Local Sub-contractors to 'build' the project, just going by what Cole has said, I would put a hold on the project and if possible, even stop using the site. Personally, I wouldn't have even started filling the bins until the project was 100% complete and was inspected. But i'm sure Cole and Co. had there reasons for doing so, given is was Harvest time as well. Also, I am in no way faulting Cole on his decisions and path that was taken. But where the project is now, I too would have HIGH concerns about the stability of the whole structure and in-complete parts of the project. Anyhow, those are my thoughts on your response and since we don't know everything, i'll offer advice only if Cole asks for it and not get hateful or rude back to him on "how this or how that, should have been done". And I think most everyone will do so here, so that's good to know.

[@JOSH-rj3pj]

WHY BECAUSE

[@noyopacific]

​@@MakeItSo-ThisIsME I think I'd also consider turning this over to a lawyer to take care of future communication with the contractor. That would prevent me from doing something that might weaken any claim and would give the contractor fair notice that if any deficiencies were not dealt with he could anticipate a legal challenge.

[@letzrockitrite8469]

I've been a contractor since 1973.... and from what I heard on this video, you are doing great... legally speaking you're in the driver's seat and legally you should expect a complete fulfillment of the contract before payment is made as well as some inspection by an agency who'll be responsible for any future problems stemming from the engineered design which typically is overkill but that's how lives are saved. Specifically ... those 4 pinch bolts holding the catwalk on is nowhere near adequate. The high winds will buffet the metal back and forth until they loosen/and/or break.... like any bolt..... Cole , you've got a good mind and you're right when inspecting these issues.

[@brucethomas8890]

I think you should pay for a independent licensed inspector to review the project. That will get everyone's attention quick. Don't go to the lawyer first that will just burn cash.

[@williamharris6690]

This!

[@ebertler1]

I concur!

[@philsroad7959]

Totally agree. Before you pay anymore get it inspected.

[@philsroad7959]

Better safe than sorry bud

[@1955gaylord]

Great idea

[@jarvisautofabrication284]

There should be a safety inspector for AGI to come out and run down his check list of the plans that were built from to make sure everything is in safe order. Make sure the professional that designed the site has a guy come out to see the issues you have. Definitely your in the right track and don’t make that last payment till inspection is done even if the work is complete

[@irealylikecheese2515]

Cole just talk to AGI. Ask them: “is this the work expected from your dealers?”. It almost traps them, as if they say no(it’s not the standard of work from our dealers) then they will send people out to redo it, but if they say yes(that is the work our dealers do) AGI almost certainly will lose all credibility.

[@dalegereaux1863]

Excellent idea and maybe have the camera running at the time.

[@dschmitt3373]

Cole, kindly explain to AGI that you have a half a million constant viewers and many more that watch but do not Subscribe. Many of your Viewers are farmers and all farmers at one time need new products,, your negative problems does not encourage others to spend their hard earned money with that problem company.. Be polite of course at first but hold your ground with paying money until the site is inspected by a certified company. You are a very smart young man and it is very intelligent to ask for assistance. Pride comes before a fall. God Bless You and I will pray for you in this regard.

[@ryanm3371]

AGI would have nothing to do with the construction itself. They are a manufacturer and their role in the project is to supply materials as specified by the owner or owners rep. This is akin to a bathroom remodel where you buy a Kohler toilet and the floor stub is placed wrong….You’re trying to blame Kohler because the stub-in is wrong and saying Kohler must fix this. I don’t know if the Cornstars have ever disclosed who the construction company is that they purchased the bin from? They likely have much more blame than AGI.

[@NorthernContrarian]

@@ryanm3371 AGI selects the rep. I doubt they want reps that are snakes.

[@ryanm3371]

@@NorthernContrarian agree that AGI does not want unscrupulous dealers in their network. But AGI is also not going to take liability for construction work that is outside their contractual scope. I.E., they’re not going to shell out hundreds of thousands of dollars to fix issues that they have nothing to do with. I’m sure AGI would gladly fix any manufacturing issues related to the components they supplied. But they are in no way shape or form responsible for materials they did not supply or the means and methods of construction.

[@mitsnevets]

i would contact AGI directly and request they send one of their engineers out to review your site and let them decide if they want this work to be representitive of their firm

[@kathyjohnson9465]

When I was building, I called out an independent engineer that had no interest in the job to give me his unbiased opinion. He answered all my questions, red flaged anything that was unsafe or did not match the prints. Best $2,000. I ever spent for 8 hours of his work. He marked everything on a list and I gave a copy to the builder. When everything was completed on the list, the engineer came back out and made sure all work was completed to his specifications, then he told me to pay the builder. Builder's think, "This don't matter, you can't see it from my house! Almost forgot, I deducted the $2,000. from the builders final payment because he sent me the bill before they were finished. I don't play games when it comes to money.

[@monabale8263]

this.

[@Trdbrglr75]

Yes. Definitely the way to go.

[@pfd37]

Exactly.

[@kevinb7540]

This is probably your best bet Cole. My last job was designing , building, and commissioning new Toyota plants. The commissioning of all the equipment and proving the customer is getting what the asked and payed for was always the biggest pain. So don't feel bad. Like you said if you pay they'll never come back out to finish.

[@joconnor3567]

Perfect approach!

[@scotteddy1468]

Our farm was a Dekalb. When it was going up and yearly after that they had an engineer and a trainee inspection of everything that was going on . It took about 7 months to complete. But everyone was happy at the end. Plus when the signs started to sun fade they would come out and replace them. I would hire an independent contractor inspector to come out and do a full inspection on your site. It will cost you a couple thousand dollars but will save you in the end. This will also give everyone a clear prospective on the job.

[@karbon4542]

A safety report from a structural engineer is a good idea. I'd take it one step further and not only ask them to provide a report, but get a second opinion; pay for your own safety report as well. It'll be expensive, but IMO worth it, especially if you're walking around that high up in the air. An independent safety report could literally save your life.

[@thecrazytexan5899]

In most states the local ag extension office has a structural engineer on contract to do this for state regulations since this is a business. It falls under osha guidelines

[@stoneshrink]

As a lawyer, I agree with this. I'd ask you "do you have any reports?" if not, I'd send you back out to get them. There is no sense for me to charge you my hourly rate to shepherd engineers. Once it's said and done, then take your list, the contract, and the expert reports to the lawyer for an opinion.

[@trentlewis1473]

An independent inspection and report may be expensive, but I view it as an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

[@johnwells920]

@@stoneshrink as a business owner this lawyer is spot on. I own a trucking company. We had a bad engine rebuild. We took it to different shops to get opinions on the rebuild. It was found they didn’t not build the engine to the agreed upon specs. At that point we contacted a lawyer. We had all the ammo we needed to pursue it. They avoided court and paid our lawyer fees as well. Now don’t kid yourself. This process took a year. We paid upfront for two rebuilds. Basically 100k out of pocket before the lawyer. This all took place in iowa. They have a great consumer protection division

[@c.bro.572]

I'm a forensic structural engineer. I'd agree that you need to have it assessed by an engineer.

[@braxtonnelson7422]

I've been through similar dealings with contractors both in business and at home. A few considerations: 1) You may want to pay for an independent inspector to go over the entire project. The worst thing is to wish you had done this before everything went to crap! Don't be willing to trust the other guy's inspector! 2) Keep all of your dealings with the contractor polite and remain patient! Don't let your temper (or your Dad's temper) get the best of you-- especially early in the process! You can always ramp up the heat, but it is not as easy to back it down again! You can't "unsay" something once the words have left your mouth! 3) Make sure to keep good notes (your videos can help a lot!), and be as thorough as possible. Having someone else's eyes on the things you are looking at can be a huge help! Remember: keeping notes should include any subsequent contacts with the contractor (and his agents), inspectors, company representatives, and anyone else who is knowledgeable about a project like this. If (and when) a case like this goes to court, written documents (with dates and notations-- like who was there and their credentials, who witnessed the conversations, photos or videos that are pertinent, statements from witnesses, etc.) are taken with much more gravity than the spoken word as recollected on the witness stand! I wish you good luck in this matter...

[@davidcopperfield-notthemag397]

Don't accept the job and pay for the bins until EVERYTHING is right. I was furious early on when you showed the crummy welding and workmanship on the really tall stair tower (forgot what it is called). Don't cave. You need to get what you paid for. Contractors mess stuff up and shaft the buyer all the time. They know they almost always get away with it. This is what contracts are for. You are very smart and informed Cole and the contractor won't like you. They may now disrespect you Cole. Good you got it all on video! Hang tough for what is right.

[@stevenisgreat7472]

I agree! The craftsmanship on this job was just poor, and didn’t seem like they had any regard for safety.

[@davidcopperfield-notthemag397]

@@stevenisgreat7472 Right. When Cole showed the tower stairs video early on I was afraid for those men! That crummy built tower could kill someone. Scares me!

[@noname-nd8ec]

Unless there is a good reason, you should always use local contractors. The money you pay them stays in the local area, then they buy things like pizza, that helps keep the local pizza shop open and you can get yummy local pizza to eat.

[@stevenisgreat7472]

@@noname-nd8ec also another good point is any honest, good contractor that isn’t going to rob you blind. They will tell you if they can’t handle a job, and refer you to a contractor that’s up to the task. I don’t want to put people at risk, if I think I can’t do it I would refer to someone that can do it, and I know will do an amazing job. Sometimes honesty is the best policy when it comes to safety, and money.

[@davebrittain9216]

David Copperfield I know what you mean. Every time Cole shows a view of those bins all I could think about was that shoddy welding job he showed us a while back.

[@daddygoat]

As a builder and project manager I can say that you are spot on. Your GC needs to organize a final push for completion. Now, he may feel that waiting until all the parts are in so he can schedule one block of time for the completion. You need to have your punchlist in his hands ASAP. Also do not let up on the "AS Built" engineering seal. I know engineers hate to leave the office but you need an inspection from an engineer ASAP to finalize this.

[@ProclarushTaonas]

This is where contracting gets tricky and people start getting hard to deal with. DO NOT give them a single cent more until absolutely every letter of your contract is met.

[@dougwhiting2939]

Cole, I've welded and fabricated for 20+ years. I also worked for a company that made grain legs, drag conveyors and distributors. I would have the same concerns with the lack of structure as you. The weld on the drag support you showed appears to be inadequate and should be inspected. Like you said I don't want to throw anyone under the bus but the structure dose not seem safe. Please get an independent engineer to verify EVERYTHING. Unfortunately with subcontractors they don't always know what is best for the trades they are working with and things get "done" but maybe not exactly as engineered. Knowing how our drag conveyors we're spected out I don't see how they could possibly get to your 8000 bushel an hour contracted agreement. If they can go fast enough then the structure will have to be upgraded as well as wear plates inside the drag most likely since the elevated speed likely will wear the conveiyence components at an extremely high rate. Just my two cents. I love watching you guys and don't like it when someone pays hard earned money to advance setup and help the entire family for years to come and they get shorted are repeatedly overlooked. Please be safe.

[@extremerc9533]

As a CGC do not consult a lawyer off the rip. It's only going to make the relationship harsh, address the issues with the contractor and give him a time frame to fix the issues. If he does not comply then go legal... Addressing issues with immediate lawyers may result in prolonging the issues in the court system... Once you law up it he will do nothing to help you and the court system can take months... Address it civil with your list and give him a time frame and tell him if it's not done within that time frame you will pursue legal actions and also if you signed a contract with AGI and they hired a sub that then subbed under them it goes back to AGI. It all falls back to the contractor you signed to hire... doesn't matter how bad or good there work is, it's the name that you went into agreement with, they are responsible for there subs... All this hiring engineers.. That should have been the job of AGI and the building inspector to assure that. When ever you build a structure a engineer has to sign off on the prints and it's the building inspector to insure that it is up to code and specs

[@billpotmesil]

Well...this is a pretty common problem in the construction business from both sides. A couple thoughts: - Hang onto that final payment! They will not be excited to come back once they get all the money from you they think they can. - Reviewing Sent for approval drawings is important, especially for things like auger outlets. If they can't tell you to a fraction of an inch its final height above a set grade, they haven't done enough design work. - A good thing to do is set an elevation benchmark on the ground at the start. Call it 100'-0". The height of everything should match back to that benchmark and the drawings should reference it. The bottom of your auger outlet may be set on a drawing at 113'-4.74" and the top of comcrete in the bottom of your pit at 89'-2". You can buy an optical level and check to make sure they are putting things at the correct levels. Also is nice to have four pins set at known locations. Drawings will then reference how far east and south of a known location things are set. With a tape, you can them verify on your own where things are supposed to be per the drawings. - Everything should reference a Structural Steel Code and it should have standards for plumb and level of everything. - Your platforms and ladders may also not meet OSHA requirements. Appeared to me some of your platform penetrations might have enough open space they need a toe plate. - Do not be surprised if they claim the drawings are proprietary. They may try to tell you if they give you more than general layouts, you will try to start building other grain handling facilities using the drawings. - They may only have a plan and elevation drawing specific to your facility, but it should then reference a bazzilion reference drawings that detail specifically how everything is supposed to be built, what material, how many and size of anchor bolts, the type, size and length of welds that should connect everything, etc. As an example, one of your round beams had a tack weld at the clamp and another appeared welded all the way around - drawing will show what is required and weld size. Drawing should show if the pipe must be seated in the clamp or can be raised up x amount for leveling and welded. Sorry for your frustration.

[@combatmedic1980]

I agree, pay a independent stuctural engineer to look the site over and have him right a offical report. Also make sure that the as built pans have the enineers stamp on the final plans. He will be held responsible if not built to his specs.

[@tbirdracefan]

Except he already paid for an engineer to design the system. I feel it is reasonable to ask for a signed engineers report stating that the structure is safe and built to the designed requirements.

[@stevescarboro7342]

@@tbirdracefan yes but what good is a signed engineers cert if that thing crumbles to the ground when someone is standing at the top. Best peace of mind would be to get a second opinion from another engineer who has no connection to the contractor.

[@richbatz139]

@@tbirdracefan All engineers are like DR'S at the end of the day there still a DR. Some are better than others

[@johnmilburn5715]

Absolutely agree. This site needs a full inspection carried out, the report published, and those who's work has plainly and manifestly fallen short of expected standards be held to account to put it right. Local or national makes no difference; safety has no respect for boundaries or loyalty.

[@andythehomefarmcornwallfar28]

@@tbirdracefan You are correct but the engineer doesn't work for Cornstar Farms so is unlikely to do this unless the contractor tells him to. Cole has to have his own engineer to argue points out especially if this heads southwards (looking a possibility at the moment) and gets legal and is why an independent engineer is so important in this case

[@greenthumb6875]

"I've never done anything like this in my life." Cole your way to young to be that experienced with decision making. You've done fine, it'll work out. That's why you hired a planner in the first place. Now hire a independent inspector to get his recommendations for your piece of mind and the contractors too. After all they want a satisfied customer and limited liability on their part too. Lawsuits are expensive and benefit no one but the attorneys.

[@lorenwbrown]

You are going to want a private structural inspection for those bins. It would help if you could provide the engineer approved plans to the inspector as they will compare the plans to the structure. I would put money on the structure being significantly different than the plans.

[@rubenjanssen1672]

tilt in the overhead convayer mentiond in the video being one of them (agreed upon yes but what does it do for loads in the structure, capaceties being met that were payed for and the likes)

[@brentstallman6167]

I think you should take this stuff up with your general and an inspector privately, NOT putting your contractors on blast to 500k people. Especially when you've put them on blast to your subscribers in the past and in the end you were wrong! I agree things should be completed to contract agreements and receive a structurally sound finished product, but I don't agree with the way you are going about it all. If the contractors completely abandon the contractual agreements or turn into a major pain about fixing structural issues then yes at that point make it known, but until then deal with them privately. I can guarantee you as a contractor myself, you will start to have problems getting anyone to come do work for you the way you seem to want to publicly shame everyone that steps foot on that farm.

[@LadyGecko]

It’s called a ‘punch list’ and it’s expected. It’s why you have approximately 10% withheld until after all the work is complete and signed off on. And you don’t pay until the punch is complete and you are satisfied that the terms of the contract have been met. And that includes AGI equipment.

[@mikegozdziewski3289]

Great to see comments from other popular farm KZbinrs channels calling out Cole and there Dad. Coles Reputation has been tarnished. Amazing how it travels.

[@shaunmehringer7582]

Who has done that, and for what?

[@mikegozdziewski3289]

One You tuber has called a Cole a little puke! Another said they would never do what Cole and his Dad did. I can and I have copied and pasted other comments and how much cole makes on you tune. But you buddy Cole takes them down as fas as I put them up. Just google Cole. There not farmers.

[@tmalcolm6138]

As a contractor for 30 years I can tell you this DO NOT PAY ANOTHER DIME UNTIL THE ENTIRE PROJECT IS FINISHED TO YOUR STANDARD

[@johnniewalker2497]

Dang SOLID advice!

[@barryrhoads8716]

Problem is is Cole doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. Should have registered engineers do the project for him.

[@phil-bay-of-plenty-nz]

it's not about it being finished to coles standard, it's about being completed to agreed standard! coles stadard may be gold plated ladders so stick to what matters and that is the agreed standard and then of course even if it meets agreed standard it has to meet structural standards regardless od agreement made. i doubt you made much money as a contractor if you allowed clients to randomly decide whats a good enough standard!

[@phil-bay-of-plenty-nz]

@@barryrhoads8716 i agree, like how he spends endless hours on the computer doing spreadsheets and calculations when the farms been going for 100 odd years fine without it and if he does not really understand it all then there is no point doing what he is doing. is a common fault with newly minted iniversity graduates in whatever field it may be. they think they have the knowledge to run things or decide on changes for changes sake. basic farming is simple, soil test, apply fert and spray and harvest then rinse and repeat. there are not that many gains to be found in a spreadsheet that has not already got a proven solution, like agleader for gps mapping etc shows the best way to harvest land and be more efficient with placement of bin trailers rather than following the combine up and down a field. he needs to hire actual professionals to do what they are good at and spend more time working on the farm and gaining knowledge the old fashioned way through time served.

[@pecan11]

@@phil-bay-of-plenty-nz wow u r unreal! Field experience is something important but u will never learn without help! Todays environmental, logistical and fiscal challenges r immense in a big farm. Who r u kidding? Cole having a degree In business I believe does help him, but he doesn’t spend that much time doing spreadsheets and if u don’t use excel what the hell do you know about it? They r very powerful tools for roll ups and trend analyses. U sound like some rural person who disdains education. And u r totally wrong about your assumptions!! let’s see u do a first time huge capital project like this, spend a million bucks r more and not make a single mistake !

[@scottalspach8020]

Being a independent electric contractor I stood behind my work for a year. If any problems occurred during that time it was on my dime. You are definitely not wrong in your way of thinking or actions. Be very thorough when doing your check list, leave no stone unturned. There was several things I seen during the series of videos that I thought was sketchy but I'm no structural engineer. Be SURE and get those as-builts.

[@newfization]

Not sure of your weather there, but I was a ski lift mechanic and anytime I see a structure like that I get concerned about water. If water can pool anywhere in a pipe or under a support it can freeze and damage the structure, and it will do damage that you'd think well nigh impossible. The pads should really be grouted to seal them and four bolts used not two. That one really stands out. And who inspected and signed off on the welds and such. I'd have an independent inspector sign off on a project of that size as a matter of course, especially so with the concerns you have. Anyway, good luck, but more important than luck, persevere and stay alert and picky. You're going to have this setup for the rest of your life and what you do today will impact the number and severity of the headaches you'll have tomorrow.

[@markdelpiere4788]

Great observation Dave, I work at a large ski resort here in Colorado and have worked for Doppelmayr and Poma in the past building lifts - water trapped in steel can be catastrophic.

[@alancote7446]

Lots of good advice in here Cole. I've been a contractor for 25 years and there are lots of concerning things you mentioned in your video. Hiring your own structural engineer to do an inspection of the project will be money well spent.

[@prjndigo]

From what I'm seeing that you're pointing out I'm betting there's 10x as much that isn't installed correctly. Those four bolts (two per foot) aren't even going to stop a honda accord with a clothesline from knocking the legs over. If it's properly trussed and interlatched to the bins that's where most of the strength is going to come from. Luckily you can install additional legs of the trapezoidal type at a later date with the settlement if you go that route. _As is it is done and functioning_ tho I suggest constant daily "calibrated" checks on the structure. put lines in locations so you can properly position your phone or still-camera and take about 30 pictures on/among/around each day. Get those bolts on the hopper crowns coated/covered immediately; that's a major conductivity point. Curly will know what to put on em. The largest set of issues I see is the whole in-grade/above-grade question. The draws was probably just an assembly error on which ring they went into - happens. Those will need to be fixed either with a conveyance or you can raise their tips and install a vibration device. Since they're down-slope I'd suggest a conveyor that can be tipped up. Something you can take off and store out of the weather will probably last a couple decades and you'll likely only need one.

[@rsallen13]

As someone who has been involved in large projects for over 40 years, the last 10% usually takes as long as the rest of the project.

[@stevechamblee8156]

I don’t usually make any comments on your videos. I wanted to say that in over a years time, this has been by far the best follow up, tie all the pieces together, catch-up video! I understand you’re a farmer and crops are your priority, but today with the exception of the farm house remodel update, I feel as a follower from day one of yours, I have been caught up to date! Excellent job! Now then, to answer your request for comment on your bin site. Hold 15% of final payment until 100% of the work has been completed. However, you will never get the final work completed if you do not pay at least 85% in smaller payments as he or she finishes your remaining “punch list” of items. Good luck and Merry Christmas to you and your family!

[@AG-kt6cd]

Hey Cole, just to add to your list, you may want a backup copy of the program for the control panel (PLC (controller) and HMI(touch screen)) used on your site. if anything fails in the future you can get the program reinstalled even if the contractor that designed it isn't available... a lot faster and cheaper. ( think 10+ years time ) would easily fit on a USB drive.

[@dcricket1]

This just makes me literally sick. So glad you found these issues now and pray AGI realizes your following and word of mouth wouldn’t be good for business. I swear those concrete pads are too small. How do you not have four bolts to a leg connected and it’s so close to the edge of the pad the concrete could break. That’s why they didn’t screw those down.

[@codylapoint]

Those are not even proper base plates, they are tube clamps to temporarily seal holes in pipes. Someone cobbled together shitty base plates out of them. Poor workmanship throughout that entire setup. I wouldn't give them another penny until an actual 3rd party engineer came out and detailed out a punch list with actual repairs and they completed them properly. The entire thing is Jerry rigged to hell and back, and he is being pressed into accepting it the way it is. If it doesn't seem right it probably isn't. I've been a millwright and iron worker professionally for 22 years now and that is shoddy bubble gum and duct tape bs right there. I doubt that is what he paid for..

[@moosescorner]

that was my thought about the legs being connected with just 2 bolts, they didn't properly size the pads out to give them ample bolting room so they said shhhh if we just remove and make it look like its supposed to be nobody will know.

[@kylekroschel3879]

Think what they do to people who don't have a following!

[@norm-nas]

@@codylapoint Yes, what you said, well said.

[@dbuttsvfs]

That’s the challenge with sub contractors on these bin sites. It takes a lot of oversight from someone that actually has done the work and holds the contractor accountable. The two legged towers are definitely on the light side and welding to bolt heads is an old last resort trick that has no place on a new site. Those en-mass conveyors Likely will need to be changed to “double flight” where there are twice as many paddles to move the grain. Those conveyors hate inclines over 5 deg. We sell and install all different brands on most systems we design and build bit if a customer wants one brand for a complete site we do our best to meet that request and bring to light where we believe it’s worth looking at other brands. Good luck! If the contractor is good and reputable he will make sure to clear it all up without having to take legal action where only the lawyers win. Also, I’d be willing to bet your tower was designed specifically for its original use and not any side loading. Most tower companies want us to add a secondary stand to the two sides were loading off of. But we also have countless conveyors coming off towers that wouldn’t even be approved for their original application in today’s world and they have stood for decades.

[@lindajoyce1808]

What you doing is correct, making a list of unfinished work and missing item’s don’t pay until it’s is done.

[@iLumberjack]

No reason to get angry either. Lay out the remaining tasks and smile until your teeth dry out.

[@dubuque1]

I helped move our local Sears store from one end of town to another, I think the lists were called punch up lists, that listed out items that needed to be addressed before final payments. I hope this works out ok for him, enjoy watching, and am happy to see someone from Iowa doing this.

[@HootMaRoot]

He has paid 90% of the build that last 10% should in reality be the profit for the project manager

[@mrgremer357]

And if possible, word it somehow to add other discrepancies found during this process. As mentioned earlier, if you’ve found this much then it’s a good bet there’s still more to be found. Stick to your guns, you’ve got a good handle on it now.

[@mikedrey3484]

Cole you are are doing it right. I was in construction for years and everyone does a punch list. Simple list of things not completed or done not up to specs. As- Built need to be signed off on and new pages to reflect that by a engineer as it is progressing.

[@ryanm3371]

Let’s address some common confusions people have in these comments: AGI is a manufacturer. They sell bins, conveyors, dryers, etc. They do not sell construction services. This is akin to doing a bathroom remodel where you buy Kohler bathroom fixtures. Kohler has nothing to do with the overall construction operations of your bathroom, they only furnished you with fixtures and that is the extent of their involvement. AGI furnished you with components, they have nothing to do with the construction operations. Another pitfall I see farmers fall into with construction projects is the project delivery system. In commercial construction, there is a general contractor or construction management firm that manages the construction - you have professionals that hire trades, schedule work, sequence the trades, provide general site oversight, ensure work confirms to contract documents. Farmers almost exclusively fall into the trap of ‘owner integrated’ project delivery where the farmer is providing certain scopes of the work (I.e. supplying a old grain leg, hiring my nephew to hang drywall, doing the earthwork themselves). Owner integrated approaches are rarely successful and make assigning liability for errors or delays almost impossible. It was mentioned that Cole believes the bin dealer acted as general contractor. But did they really? Did they provide full-time on site management of the construction site? Did they ensure work from the trades met the intent of the contract documents? Did they sequence all the trades? Did they manage construction site safety? It actually appears to me that there was no general contractor for this job and the bin dealer ‘brokered’ construction services for this project. Admittedly, this is a very common arrangement on agricultural construction projects where there really is no one in charge of the overall project. Another common misconception I see in the comments is that the project won’t pass a OSHA or jurisdictional code inspection. This is a family farm. They are exempt from OSHA regulation. Most states (and Iowa definitely one of them) also exempt agricultural construction from building codes. So there is no jurisdictional inspection and no jurisdictional code requirements. Hopefully performance requirements (as it pertains to structural performance) were indicated in the purchase contract? If not, it’s really hard to say the work is deficient since there is not a contractual standard that would establish the minimum expectation of workmanship. My advice for these types of farm projects: 1 don’t make a buying decision on a construction project based on price, buy based on a quality objective and the contractors ability to achieve the quality objective. 2 Stay far, far, far away from owner integrated project delivery approaches. Avoid that urge to save a few bucks by doing the earthwork yourself or supplying an old grain leg as it convolutes responsibility for schedule and overall project quality. Let the general contractor take care of it all as There is streamlined accountability when you avoid these owner integrated approaches. 3 Hire a general construction contractor that has the means to build your facility turn-key (I.e. they can supply all the materials and tradespersons and aren’t asking you to go out and find your own foundation contractor or your own earthwork guy). Hire a general construction contractor that furnishes full-time on-site project management.

[@sarah-kenorum2852]

I generally agree with Ryan's comments.. I know where "the cornstars" farms is and its rural. There is no AHJ going to come in an inspect the bin site. At most the electrical contractor may have to pull a permit and be inspected by a state electrical inspector, but I'm not even sure about that.. Farm construction is the Wild Wild West and it definitely is buyer beware. What the Cornstars have going for them, is if this dealer does NOT make it right (whatever that means). The power of Social media and Coles reach could devastate their business overnight.

[@miker648]

So if I understand you correctly, since there are no code requirements anyone could erect this whole project? This explains why the concrete was not cured correctly, also not having to put a foundation below the frost line. Does this mean that there was no Electrical inspection required? Was any of this project engineered, and certified by an engineer? Forgive me but I have a hard time accepting a project of this size and cost being built like this. I would think that the Bank would require this. How are they able to get insurance for this bin site? This is a family farm, but you have independent trucking operators picking up corn and beans and hauling it to market for them, the liability if something goes wrong when they are picking up corn or beans. God help them.

[@ryanm3371]

@@miker648 most states exempt agricultural construction from building codes (Iowa is definitely one of these states). Iowa does not even require electrical inspections. The grain bin itself would be engineered, but anything else? That depends upon what was contractually agreed upon between the cornstars and the construction contractor. It is very common in ag construction to forgo utilizing a licensed design professional to coordinate all the components used in the completed work (I.e. there is no engineer utilized to size the foundation to support the grain bin reactions or size the foundation to allow sufficient concrete edge distances to place anchor bolts for support towers or design suitable flexible conveyor connections at the top of bins to account for substantial vertical settlement and rebound that occurs when grain bins are filled and emptied of grain). Farmers are extremely price sensitive and low cost drives purchasing decisions (thus why licensed design professionals are so commonly not utilized). A common detail with foundations for bulk storage structures (like grain bins) is the use of ‘frost free’ subgrade in lieu of a building foundation to frost depth. This is usually accomplished by placing free draining material (like sand or clean gravel) to frost depth and then placing shallow footings on the free draining material. I don’t recall if this was done here at the cornstars bin site?

[@miker648]

@@ryanm3371 Thank you for taking the time to explain and respond to my questions.

[@sandranokes7443]

I have to say, you have a lot more patience than I have. You paid for AGI you should have gotten AGI. Duct tape wrapped around an brand new piece of equipment is not okay. Bolts on one side of a structure and not on the other is not okay. I assume that this company that got the contract to do this is suppose to be professional and know how to do this stuff. It really looks like they cut corners and thought you wouldn't understand enough to catch it. And, I don't know about how sick the guy is who is doing the walls in the shack, but you said he started in September......... no, that's not okay. You are a young man and have taken on the responsibilities most adults can't handle. I'm in awe of the man you have become. Stand your ground. Thank you for giving us an update on all the things. I've been curious about all of this. I see you are on top of all of it and can handle it. Looking forward to the update where it is all fixed.

[@kylekroschel3879]

Sheetrock dude is having health issues so he's be mindful and I'm sure it's someone they know! And for the bin setup I totally agree

[@oxfordmontello3281]

You are 100% on point. My only advice is be careful what you say in your videos. If it ends up in court they will exploit everything you say.

[@carlherald5577]

Contact the AGI people and tell them you want them to inspect the bin site before you sign the final paycheck. Also don't sign the final paycheck until they complete the contract. Use the contract to your advantage about the final payment.

[@jameskauffman8405]

I agree with Mr. Thomas and Mr. Armstrong comments. That is a good direction to go. I also wanted to comment on the video where you talked about signing up as Patreon membership to Cole the Cornstar. Last time I checked it was on me to sign up. I did it out my love for the family farm and an investment in American farming. I'm proud of what you are doing and to have a small (very) part of your family farm.

[@ColeTheLeatherman]

Hey Cole, yeah it’s Cole. Mad respect. Remember on the Engineering Stamp they need to follow things per that spec. I would get an independent engineer out there to assess everything. You got photos and video witch is great because that doesn’t lie witch is great. I work with a lot of general contractors up here when I’m selling new homes. Kinda of like your bin guy “general”. It’s now going to turn into a he did, and that you signed here. DON’T BACK DOWN. He’s also supposed to be the professional (aka) the auger going under a bin running empty? And there’s also to knowledge of the size of motor and cost of wire that it would take is not practical. IMO. Go get what you paid for. Load out, conveyers meeting spec. Make sure your plans all show elevations.Everything looks all hunky dory from the top. (Blue prints). What did the side elevations show? Did the contractor build it to spec per plan? Those bolts that have been welded “may” break as the bin settles and rises with grain in the bin witch hold the tower to the bin. How about the footings below the towers??? I be the slab isn’t designed for that. (Maybe I’m wrong.) The terrible weld job on top shown in previous videos needs to be REDONE RIGHT. Along with your conveyors being the right ones,(are they actually the size you ordered?) The bin load outs might be able to swap Some sheets around once the bins empty and raise it up? Just and idea. I MAYBE WRONG ON MY STATEMENTS and COMMENTS JUST MY 1 cent. And in closing keep communication with all contractors IN WRITING! COLE KEEP IT UP.

[@rondavenport4512]

Hey Cole, what you're finding out is not everyone has as high of standards as you do. If you built these bins, would you be satisfied? Well you're not so dont settle for less. The devil's in the details. I like the independent engineer evaluating your project. Cole keep doing what you doing. You are building something that your future family will be proud of for sure. 😁

[@anthonybanda8192]

Contact your local grain elevator inspector if you have one . We have an inspector come out yearly to check our 2 bin sites . We tend to have strong thunder storms in the Summer and strong winds during the winter . Another thing is to have another bin manufacturer look at the setup as a second opinion. It seams like your contractor did a half hazard job throughout the project. All of our bins are gsi and the grain legs are as well but we have grain handler dryers . Great video keep up the good work!

[@kst1983]

Lots of millwright issues. You are correct on the downspouts. Looks like you have narrow core sidewall sheets, in a typicall widecore setup you'd put the downspout in the 6th ring with a farm bin concrete pad (not raised like commercial pad). 6th ring in widecore is approx 8th ring in narrow core. Two options cut the downspout (easiest) or move downspout up when empty. Contractor needs to fix with rest of your list. No moola paid until all fixed. Structurally H brackets work but not when installed with bandaids and duck tape (ie- rosette welds). Enjoy you vlogs. Keep up the work.

[@curtbrecked4515]

Cole, lots of good advice on here. I just want to tell you you’re doing a great job for someone your age and first time going through something like this. Keep remembering how hard you worked to earn that money and what you are asking for is reasonable and fair.

[@johnhelbig4115]

Reading through the comments, a lot of excellent advice! I didn't read through them all.... Definitely would do a independent inspection on the sight... Somebody from the other side of the state... just incase they might be some kind of "he knows a guy" that'll take care of the problem on paper kinda thing! Hopefully you follow that! The support legs should have BIGGER PADS! 4 ANCHOR POINTS! PLUS THE TOP OF THE BINS! The bin tops should be tied in way better than 4 bolts... And how the support legs are attached to the side of the bins.... SERIOUSLY!!! Good luck brother! WE GOT YOU! We, as in the Cornstar following! Don't make us unleash Zach Johnson, the guy that plays the Millennial farmer! He'll bring Leg arms out! Can't forget DouggO and the Swead....

[@theirishman8356]

Good walk through. I would contact a construction lawyer before you talk to your contractor.

[@bmanferlife]

This comment

[@mollymackenzie3307]

For sure.

[@grant4176]

I agree. Good point.

[@sherilynl4038]

and wouldn't the insurance company be able to bring someone out. i know they did that for my house before they agreed to insure it and pointed out things that needed to be done first.

[@bunkabob1]

Cole, you are on the right track. I agree with the comments on Matt, below. THE SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE! Don't be afraid to be a friendly thorn in their side until your job is totally SAFE and COMPLETE. Of side not, NO CONSTRUCTION PROJECT has EVER been completed without corrections, revisions,, etc. so don't feel bad. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. Your grandchildren will appreciate your hard work.

[@patrioted9543]

Hey Cole, there are some great thoughts on here already and the only thing I could possibly add would be to have your banker supply you with a structural engineer to check that everything is up to snuff with the plans.

[@0bieWan]

Do not pay until it is 100% done!! alot of that stuff they will need to back track and rebuild a few things. So sorry to see this happen. Been in construction since a kid with my father, and you need to stand your ground on what you see and maybe get a inspector that has a good reputation and investigate on things that you might not be seeing. Side note on drywall. Keep the room and a normal temp so all texture, mud, and paint will set correctly and not make any bubbles or defects.

[@campingwithhomer7371]

The catwalk supported on the platform looks pretty dicey. Sometimes you have to do a face to face meeting even if it means taking time out of your work day to chase down the top person. Squeaky wheel usually gets the grease.

[@lauraturley5612]

Cole you are correct to question your concerns. You contracted for an AGI qualified bin site and safe long term investment. Locate an independent site inspector to address your list of problems and concerns before your final payment settlement. By the way, I’ve have been enjoying your videos for several years. Love that you are there with your Dad, brother and family keeping your families farming legacy going.

[@johnnyking705]

The Company that wrote up the contract should do a walk-through with you to go over everything

[@banjobenson9348]

sometimes the lowest bid is the most expensive

[@joatmon7621]

Hey Cole, I highly recommend getting one of those electric dead bolt locks you can get anywhere. I got a Brinks branded one from Walmart for $70 and it works great for exactly this purpose. Family can use the code to get into break room but nobody else can get to more than the restroom. You can also program separate codes for family and drivers as well as have it automatically lock behind you.

[@TheSpruell]

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[@trogdor8764]

I don't understand the need to keep that room secure. Is someone really going to try to steal a truckload of grain? Trucks are big and loud, filling the truck is loud, dust blows everywhere, you need a spotter communicating with the driver, you need light to see what you're doing... It seems unlikely anyone could pull that off without getting caught. I suppose vandalism could be more of a concern. A disgruntled employee sneaks over to the bin site in the middle of the night and dumps corn all over the ground? Bad relationship with a neighbor? RE: the other day's security system sponsor, if they are legitimately worried something like this could happen, I think a fingerprint scanner or password on the control panel software would be a better solution than cameras, motion sensors, or a locked door. Knowing that someone's tampering with your stuff doesn't un-dump your corn.

[@frankoch1]

Do not watch a KZbin channel called " Lock Picking Lawer " . You will definately reconsider your thoughts on lock usefullness after viewing a few segments.

[@MrJarred]

Cole got his Simplisafe sponsorship a few videos back, that was one of the things added, in addition to cameras and glass break sensors.

[@feldtc07]

I use to work for a company that builds grain bins and grain bin setups, there are a lot of things that I have never seen done that have been done on your site and while some of your concerns like the side unloads can be easily fixed with a pivoting joint and a cable winch so you can adjust the spout to make sure it’s hitting the middle of the truck when you use them, the structural part of your support towers is questionable at best. The catwalk around the leg is a lot less of an issue but I noticed you don’t have support cables going from the top and middle of the structure to the ground which you wouldn’t need with a solid structure around the leg but to offset the weight on the one side I would like to see them if it was my setup. Your reclaim setup is a better idea the way you are currently planning on doing it now in my opinion, not only because it’s out from underneath your current bins so you can fix anything in the future that may go wrong with wearable parts but you also allowed yourself room for future growth so I’m glad to see you changed that plan.

[@danielbremner7805]

It seems like you are taking the best approach. I appreciate your calm demeanor in discussing the punch list. As a contractor and a homeowner I have been on both sides of punch lists. Be firm on what needs to be done and involve a third party expert if you feel one is needed, but kindness in communication is always appreciated. At this point I would only escalate to lawyers if they abandon the project. And as the majority of people here have said don't pay anything else until the list is completed properly and meets design specifications.

[@lukedesselle2491]

Cole, I can see where this is going to end up and im sure y'all know as well before to much time goes by get yourself an attorney who specializes in general contracting and put all the cards on the table, it's the only way you are going to get anything done, and remember your loan agreement with your banker will be for a bin site built a certain way and a specific Model, not a pieced together puzzle. I can see it probably getting messy but stand your ground they have screwed y'all around from the beginning of the project one good thing you have the majority of the construction on video!!

[@jovangrbic97]

I recommend burning an AGI effigy in a kerosene fire, made of woven cornstalks from your fields, that should resolve most of your problems...

[@whitefam2000]

As well as a Private Structural engineer I would also want to have a Private Mechanical Engineer to check all the motor mounting and conveyor placements, etc. I worked for a Sawmill company that was put together by a Design Engineer, and though it looked all pretty and nice and neat, every stinking time we had an issue with a motor or any other Millwright issues we ended up basically cutting in and scrapping all the pretty placed stuff and reworking the area for ease of maintenance and safety. That catwalk (frankly) scares the day lights out of me with the way it's not only supported (or lack thereof), but how resistant it will not be to high winds and vibration that will likely crack the welds down the line. I didn't like much of what I saw that you were pointing out. Quite frankly it looked half- ______ put together. My other suggestion would be to not only get ahold of an AGI rep, but also have the banker do the walk through as well, and show them your concerns and see how they feel their investment was put together. Sure you signed for the contract, but AGI Subbed out the work and is responsible for the quality of the work done, and should back you up and hold the Subs feet to the fire. After all it's their reputation that is going to get drug through the mud because they didn't supervise their subs better. Oh and your audience will know it as well. How many, over 500K subscribers, follow your channel and like learning what you and your family have to offer in the knowledge acquired over the many years your family has had the farm? How many of them are also AGI consumers as well, and have seen how they are allowing you to be treated? Your family has worked too hard and too long to put up with substandard product, and you've all busted your butts over the past 4+ years trying to make it better. Whatever you do don't Cave in. They may be older, and may have been doing their respective trades for a long time, but they also know better than to let Shoddy workmanship fly. Sometimes you can't be the nice guy, you have to be willing to put your boot up someones backside so far that they taste the mud, or at least allude to the possibility of it. Oh yeah and it wouldn't hurt to use your audiences suggestions in copy if necessary. I wish you well bud. --Mike Oh one more thing your title should have had an S after $100K's

[@andrewgeorgelang]

Hi there Cole, At our place we mandated hard hats around the bin site Gravel from boots, snow, ice, ect fall down all the time. Safety first Corn Star Farms

[@stevenicoson6670]

Thanks for a interesting video. My opinion is: You need an independent structure inspection engineer to look your project over. They will come up with items that need attention and whatever. Make sure ALL you concerns are listed. Would not pay anymore money until all items are fixed or repaired and to your satisfaction. Run everything thru it’s paces with all concerned in attendance. Make sure all items of concern are 100 percent correct. You and the family have a huge investment here. You must make sure you got what you contracted for. You want this system to operate right many years into the future. Would not except anything other than 100 percent correct. You all take care and be safe. Looking forward to the next video. Thanks for everything. The Iowa farm boy from years ago.

[@alansmth1729]

With all the power you brought into this area I would put a tank-less electric water heater. Saves tons of money over time. I put one in my barnamenium. Personally I would have a structural engineer come inspect the structures. I remodeled my home in 2002 and the dry wall was installed in 1 day, tape and bedded. They came back the next day and textured the whole house. In 2 days after the textured dried my painter came in and painted the whole house in two days since there was no floor covering or furniture. Then we let that dry and floor covering was installed. Of course I was staging all this so I could move back into my home in two weeks after a complete wiring, plumbing and structural repair. Took longer to gut and do repairs than do dry wall and paint. Well I wish you all the best.

[@joyfilters]

I would contact AGI & pay for a full inspection of your bin site that was sold by their dealer. DO NOT PAY that last 10%, cause your gonna burn through that money correcting all the "mistakes". Demand stamped, sealed structural engineer plans, should've been done before this started...

[@dandan9784]

I agree with Cole that's like going to goodyear tire dealer. Telling them to put tires on it and coming back with michelins on it. Dealers sell many brands.

[@firstname6826]

I would certainly mention to AGI that you have a half a million subscribers, many many of them farmers who will be influenced by the quality of their work shown on your channel.

[@dalegereaux1863]

Very good point !

[@ColeTheLeatherman]

AGI isn’t the issue unfortunately. It’s the contract of how it was bid and signed off on. They didn’t build the towers or the pit, Or designed the project.

[@jasondawson4091]

@@ColeTheLeatherman But if the GC is an AGI approved contractor, they will want to protect their reputation. Like Cole said, he thought using them would get him mostly AGI equipment. There are huge AGI signs on those bins and allot of viewers. If the site starts falling apart, people aren't going to know that Local welder Bobby made the catwalk, they are going to see the AGI sign and associate it with them.

[@firstname6826]

@@jasondawson4091 Thank you, my point exactly.

[@43erasfred]

@@ColeTheLeatherman They may not have done the work but they are3 and is the main contractor who subcontracted the work which ultimately makes them responsible if there is shoddy workmanship from their subcontractors.

[@OpunktSchmidt1301]

🎵"Don't pay the ferryman until he gets you to the other side..."🎵 😉 Thanks a lot for the video! 😊👍🏻

[@Kacman56]

Holding off and waiting for work to be completed is the right thing to do. Also, making sure that the work is 100% up to safety standards is a must. I don't work in agriculture but with my experience working in trade related jobs, liability is prevalent. Hiring an independent inspector for this job would be a good idea to look into. I'm sure this won't turn into a lemon grain bin but holding multiple companies responsible for negligence could help in legal realm. Keep up the good work Cole.

[@terryrussel3369]

GOOD LUCK COLE ! STAND YOUR GROUND ! ! ! I've got a family full of fabricators and construction workers (starting with Great Grandad) who have always said there's only two things worse than useless in the fabrication/construction trades, and that's a designer or assembler who has never had to use the thing they design/build. The second is a customer who doesn't pay close attention to every detail of a project.

[@securem3]

I would hire a structural engineer on an hourly basis to review the as built plans while completing an audit of your physical plant. They can review work done/not done, assure structural soundness, formally document all discrepencies or work out of standards. You can then approach h the general contractor, if GC is unwilling to address issues, then bring formal documentation to an attorney

[@deanchapman6425]

Cole, you are attempting to do everything correctly. When you get the projects completed be sure you have a startup, operation, and maintenance manuals. These are manual's that are Engineering driven, so you will know and have references for others. They will also contain all safety related procedures for operation and maintenance safety critical requirements. We hope you be running this for many years. Please remember to place any additional information in these manuals for changes or modifications made over operating years. Where I worked we had people that kept our manuals up to date as we had meet not only OHSA, but Mine Safety operation regulations. This allows you or any to have and reference for the 30 or 40 yrs this will operate Wish you the best on completion. Sounds like someone may have cut some corners on spec's or install instructions. Those handrails posts have to be welded completely to their mounting plates. Tack welding is not sufficient.

[@dagneytaggart7707]

Those are some serious and very legitimate concerns. It should at least be to spec. Then you need to determine if spec is really enough. On some things, going above and beyond is the right thing. It seems to me that this is one of those things. Might be worth the cost of getting some third party inspection.

[@wboyz8154]

The low truck loader shoots are probably low due to final grade. Check grading Plan and other concerns can be inspected To see if plans were followed

[@austinpabst4481]

Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year to the CornStars! 😊

[@369Numb]

Oh my goodness!!! You need to get a inspection.. thats crazy its not up to standard. Hope it gets finished kiddo!! You and your family are just awesome

[@NavyWife]

DC thank you for taking the time to do the cleanup at the cemetary. You can dig my grave DC. (Hopefully I will not need it any time soon).

[@renoflames]

Hey Corn Star as an Ag Adjuster and Underwriter and Claims President, I believe I saw some problems that do not look right and the Insurance Company would have problems with. What I saw is a 65% built system and an Engineer who knows what they are doing should Inspect the whole Structure. Think about this say the structure was full and you had a 65 mph wind or if it was empty or half empty you will have most likely a structure that can twist or pieces will fail. From decades of looking at AG set up and large storage bins you should be sure the company responsible for the construction make it right. If you have a structure failure in High Winds the Insurance company may take a different approach to the loss and everything winds up in litigation while the Payments keep going. It has to be built right no questions asked. The mounting plates with 2 Bolts on them is a Big Fat No Way. The Bin Roof with 4 screws is an absolute no. But that is my opinion which does not matter. You have more than 19 Things wrong more like 50 that I saw and start with the Catwalk. They are not Severe Storm Proof or Tornado Proof none of them. Have you ever seen Lightning strike a Bin that does not have at Least 7 Heavy wired ground straps additional to code? The ones to code fail and the ones with additional ground wiring usually make it with minor damage or a minor flash burn. That is not for me to Judge.

[@pipegang6497]

As a structural welder myself I don't believe that would pass any kind of inspection on a safety stand point

[@dubuque1]

And actually I almost would take your opinion over many others, because you do the work, you know what is needed, what looks good and bad. Good remarks

[@Bricky-gs3lp]

By rights a structural welder needs to be certified for each job he goes on.

[@barryfletcher4705]

@@Bricky-gs3lp yep bet he or she has no idea on even which one this job calls for ?

[@darrinrentruc6614]

@@Bricky-gs3lp Not true

[@jrgen71917]

Hi Cole. By far your best video in a long time. Appreciate this slower paced, less "action" packed video and instead your nice walk-through of the bin site, your honesty, and transparency. My best advice will be to team up with an licensed inspector or engineer and have him/her advice you on the specs etc. and how to fully complete this. Later on if the contractor is not cooperating you can through money at a lawyer, but if the contractor is a decent person there will be a common interest to find a good solution for all parties.

[@BelligerentWoW]

So alot of that seems to be VERY sketch construction! I would get some kind of inspection agency out there to look at that construction!

[@steverenick6878]

Cole I saw that Larsen Farm uses downspouts for self unloaded leg on the side of the bin that pivots up and down. That would give you the clearance to get the trucks under the spout and loaded. Check out todays Larsen Farm video.

[@rgendrud8695]

It may be worth hiring a bin site engineer to check it out.

[@IRISH4486]

As a general contractor. I would hold on to your final payment. Write everything up that needs addressed. To include all plans, permits and engineered drawings. I’m going to guess that most of your structural issues will not pass inspection. I’m licensed in California and nevada. Working on both residential and commercial projects. The later being cut and dry when it comes to specs and contracts. I would want to see all approved welds and anchor points on paper. I would also question all concrete foundations when it comes to anchoring. There should be a engineered plan for that. It will be stamped by the engineer and also your local city planning dept. If it isn’t or they don’t have any of this. Then assume that all corners have been cut to save time and money. If this is the case I fully expect to see your grain bins and structures in the neighbors yard sometime in the future. Should be a good video. 💋

[@colleenuchiyama4916]

I agree you should retain a construction attorney. I also hope you write a letter to the Attorney General of Iowa, and explain to them exactly what you explained to us, including all paperwork and even this video. THEN you send a copy to both your AGI dealer and AGI corporate. It is my belief that your local dealer is cutting corners to line his pockets. I know that’s a harsh assessment, but making big money like your bin project is a temptation some folks can’t ignore.

[@russkingston5137]

You are spot on! Also, with AGI Corporate most likely being an out of Iowa Corporation, this case not properly resolved could elevate to a Federal level.

[@farmerbrown3768]

Back in my day on the farm, my Dad and Grand Dad would just lay down old corrugated roofing sheets and then put up a ring of picket fence run ear corn into the ring until you needed to put up another ring of picket fence…….but that was 60 years ago too!

[@thusspokechris]

After this video has a couple hundred thousand views by Monday, AGI might want to pay attention to their sales people and how unprofessional this job has made their company look. You being able to make a video about how they stepped up and made everything correct would be in their best interest.

[@firecaptaintom1977]

Time to flex the YT muscle for all legit issues.

[@ecutler6261]

Great update and analysis Cole, I think your next step is an independent engineer to ensure structural soundness and safety, and of course, no more payments until you are satisfied with the contract.

[@bcspride]

Genuine concerns. Hope it all works out for you guys.

[@kenberns5831]

I just went through the same problem with a smaller project. The contractors get started on another job before finishing yours, and then it's like pulling teeth to get them out to finish. Your ONLY leverage is holding the money until you are satisfied. The more you hold back the more leverage you have. I've since learned to include a finish date as a condition of the contract, that keeps the contractor coming back to finish the project. With that said, I'll leave you with this - "All experiences in life are good ones, though some can be unpleasant. Learn from each one and you will always move forward".

[@augustreil]

Any contract we have ever signed was a third up front. a third when parts were delivered and installed and the last third for them is when you're satisfied that all the work was done correctly. I have seen some do it quarters, but do not pay anymore until they are completely done and you're happy with the job. Jmo and thumbs up.

[@keithgrauherr2245]

I agree, Cole has already paid to much on the contract.

[@wandasetzer1469]

I was thinking that 90% is more than I would have paid by now. I don't farm and don't deal with this kind of money, but all the years I've been around tell me that you just don't pay nearly all of the money owed so far from getting the finished product. There's a bunch of scary stuff there and it's their lives and livelihoods on the line. This makes me angry on the Cornstar family's behalf.

[@Fizzyjester1]

I used to design this stuff and grain handling systems in the UK; you have some shoddy work there especially on the catwalk and support towers. We always used the bespoke support structures that were designed with the bins where possible, If not our designs were strong and good quality fabrication. We would be more up front than your supplier was and openly spec what was bought in or fabricated. In the area we operated we had 3 genuine competitors and one fly by night work out the back of his truck. We never had a problem losing a quote to a genuine competitor. Moral, keep your final payment or lodge it with the bank until you are satisfied. Snagging jobs are a pain, but they have to be completed. My boss was an "a hole" for saying "it will be fine, forget it" but left it to me to sort out the bits to make the customer happy and get the payment. The tonnage/flow of a conveyor is quoted but is dependant on material and moisture. Example:- I was 100ft in air in a crane and working on a flow/return inclined conveyor that had flow issues. Turns out that it had been fitted from new to run in reverse for 11 years!!! I was the first to notice; it went so much better after I changed it! Duct work and bends in duct work also slows grain flow! Another customer threatened legal action to replace a conveyor; I asked nicely if I could try altering the output duct. £80 of duct work, 2hrs talking and showing him the grain flow had a very happy customer and no court! Sorry for the long one ;-)

[@loribruning6217]

You take such care and respect in your cemetery work.

[@aidenandlogan1051]

Yes they do

[@Military-Museum-LP]

They do this work not for the glory or honor. They are paid!

[@classicambo9781]

@@Military-Museum-LP and? Doesn't mean they don't do a good job.

[@Military-Museum-LP]

@@aidenandlogan1051. Then why don’t they perform this service for free?

[@loribruning6217]

@@Military-Museum-LP For 18 rural Iowa cemeteries that they take care of? Why doesn’t the funeral home do what they do for free too? They still do their work in a respectful and meticulous way as they provide the last thing to be done for someone who died.

[@uncrumbledcooke623]

That is extremely stressful and frustrating, I’m sorry for the headache you’re in and the headache you’re probably going to go through.

[@SaraPfeffer]

I would contact a lawyer and an independent structural engineer to check everything over. And if it's not right dont pay until it is. You have all of it documented and a lot of it aired on KZbin, hopefully that should keep the builder held accountable. If all else fails contact AGI directly and notify them of what is being done in their name.

[@royordway9157]

Cole, I've been in building for 47 years. I'm a carpenter by trade. I worked for a company for 35 years who owned, leased and maintained old historic buildings. A big part of my job was working with contractors and contracts. A lot of the work we did required a building permit. If there were any structural modifications to the building, we needed stamped engineered drawings and specifications right down to the bolts and screws we had to use. When the codes officer inspected the job to "close out" the permit and issue an occupancy permit, he had the plans with him and compared every item that was built to the plan. If the plan called for Simpson Strong tie screws and we used GRK's, we would have to prove that they were of equal strength either buy showing him the data or having our structural guy sign off on them. I know, way too long, I'm a Mainer and we like to make a short story longer. I assume this project needed a building permit. Has the Coeds Enforcement Officer been out to watch the progress? What does he say about plans vs as built? I agree with everybody else, don't pay unless you are satisfied that you got what you paid for.

[@JohnJ1600]

They need to make it right. I don’t know about AGI specs, but hold them to the contract, just as they would if was to their advantage. The popularity of your show could help. No need to badmouth anyone, but sometimes the truth hurts. Business is business. 🖖

[@TimBinns68]

If your contractor didn't get engineered approved drawing and go by them, he's screwed. You may need your lawyer on this one!

[@thecrazytexan5899]

They need to finnish before they get paid the total amount period. Also I would make sure an engineer signs off on the structural concerns before you pay them as well. If you have paid them 90% and they want you to pay the rest it should be 98% done and I dont see it being at at 98% done yet

[@joefudd]

Cole, this kind of crap happens everywhere in the world (especially in America) and with construction projects in the tens to hundreds of millions of dollars. We have this very same kind of shoddy planning, engineering and workmanship to occur on every single thing that we have built, but then again we are required to choose the lowest bidders for everything. We always hire engineering and design consultants to oversee the construction projects. They make sure that most of this nonsense doesn't happen, yet even then a lot of big mistakes still get by them. It's amazing that we can even send rockets into space or make planes that fly safely because this very same crap happens with everything being built by most everyone anymore. I wish you a lot of luck in getting these mistakes that you've pointed out fixed. Those uprights clamped in those bases that are relying on a spot weld and those bolts to hold all of that weight of that support are outrageous and reckless as are those sheet metal bolts holding all of the weight of those conveyers and catwalks. Your insurance company ought to send out one of their engineers to inspect these structures for you.

[@CDFCaptain93]

I had two houses built and both of them had issues that the contractor said he would take care of but we need to make the final payments first. Long story short, they never came back to finish the job. Lesson learned.

[@GlennsSpeedShop]

I have been in the construction industry 44 years this spring, as a PM for 20 years on the electrical side working on overall project values for a few million to 400 million. The process that was missing in the beginning was the submittal process. Normally all the major equipment is submitted on, documents showing all aspects of the equipment is put together electronically and reviewed and approved by the owner. This process ensures the contractor is planning to provide what the owner is expecting. At this point in the project, as you have done, a punch list is put together and no final payment is made until the punch list is complete. The warranty period starts only after the punch list is complete. I would give the contractor time to inspect his installation, make any repairs, and if your not satisfied then hire your own inspector to make a punch list, give it to the contractor with a time limit to repair and if they don't complete it in time, hire another contractor to complete it using the 10% retainage you have held.