I Thought Your Dragon Ball Takes Couldn’t Get Worse… But They Did

[@Menoman235]

Sage slowly becoming an anime channel is the best character development of 2024

[@smike7309]

I’m all for it too, nice to see him find his niche after he stopped being a basketball only channel

[@BaithNa]

This is his villain arc

[@LAGator-qu7tc]

This is the one thing Omar was right about

[@alexanderi2020]

Lmaoo facts and I'm here for it, but I think he should have a separate page for his sports stuff.

[@invazee]

mannn i remember those vids he used to make abt the bubble clippers and the lakers and how he used to clown them man that was the funniest shit i ever done seen. i miss those times. cant believe its been 3 years alr

[@inkchariot6147]

Hot Take: Arale would've dusted the future androids, you guys saw how she was smacking Vegeta around in Dragonball Super.

[@AJotasticGamer]

Artic cold take:

[@maddog4269]

This isn’t a hot take that’s just facts

[@broggy52]

Hell, and they would've encountered her eventually

[@Zeno1781]

It's wrong Goku vs frieza were at that point of the story, THE STRONGEST This would include arale as she is within dragon ball That goku is then weaker than the androids 1 finger as the androids are stronger than yadrat ss goku. Yadrat ss goku with a single finger blocked trunks attack, the same trunks who is STRONGER than namek saga goku If u need the guide where they called namek saga goku and frieza the strongest, I could give it to u

[@Zeno1781]

Also in the future timeline, it is explicitly said the androids wiped out ALL life on earth except bulma and trunks. This would include arale and the future timeline androids were weaker than the present timeline androids So yet again, the story is saying arale would get bullied and killed

[@sidthekid2575]

The best written arc in my opinion is the namek saga which the whole concept was getting the dragonballs and the stakes were incredible high and severe. Cast were fighting for the lives just to even wish these. Also applies to the saiyan saga So to say it didn't have stakes AT ALL is crazy.

[@Destined2BeKing]

Fr Toriyama cooked with that whole arc

[@divineeternity7268]

I agree. The stronger Goku and Vegeta got over time the lesser the danger it felt like. But back then it was anybody's ball game.

[@ChrisJoestarr]

I rememeber everyone as a kid saying SSJ 3/4 were the best but suddenly internet came and brainwash ppl into think they suck specially SSJ3

[@mosthatedty9585]

no one thinks it sucks its just that ss3 is the only super saiyan form that has a nerf so no one would choose it over the other.

[@samuelflipaclip7415]

Ssj3 kinda sucks ssj2 is kinda better seen though dragon ball super with Vegeta’s my bulma since he saw ssj3 as a waste of time

[@JoaoVitor-ur8fk]

yeah kids don't have sense of criticism

[@santiagoespinoza-tellez]

I hate all the flack Goku gets for not spending time with Goten when chichi is literally the one who doesn’t let him. In super when Goku is going to train on Beerus’ planet Goten wants to go with him and Goku agrees, meanwhile chichi wastes no time in shutting both of them down

[@death8156]

I find it funny that people can see Goku's flaws and hold them against him, but completely absolve her by not mentioning her. Chichi knowingly married an alien obsessed warrior, who's race has very to little care for anything other than battle. And yet expects Goku to behave like a regular guy.

[@gx9183]

@@death8156 ChiChi didn’t know Goku was an alien till long after Gohan was born. As far as she knew, he was just a guy who really likes fighting.

[@gizmoray721]

@@gx9183 "As far as she knew, he was just a guy who really likes fighting" That's the part that matters

[@mosthatedty9585]

@@gizmoray721 yea but the fact that it’s genetically coded into him and can be passed down is her issue

[@mainelettuce9040]

@@gx9183 Bro... Chi is a trash Human and Parent in general. I'm sorry. She physically and mentally abuses Goku and kids on the daily for decades and her only real concern is how much money he and the kids can generate. Goku saves his son, multiple times along with the Planet and Chi Chi herself and she still complains to this man. She tha worst bro. Imagine saving the UNIVERSE and your wife complains that you need to go do farm work. LIKE WHAT!

[@wukongisas9564]

Just discovered the channel and ngl i like it because unlike many anime and DB channel you actually analyse and go in depth with on top of actually talking about all the facets of the topic at hand. Also this might be a hot take but even with what you said about him, i deadass think Zamasu is one of the best antagonists in DB, now yes he acted in ways that seemed foolish sometimes but i'd say with how his personality is with how arrogant and how he thinks of himself as above everything and everyone in a almost narcissitic way, it makes sense that he'd be very cocky and would be like "Nah i don't need that i'm already enough to do it" also the way he was written and clashed with the cast was superb imo. Honestly this video deserves a like because your analysis are very interesting 👍🏿

[@kristopherwillis8075]

SSJ4 in my opinion is the best form.

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

That's not a opinion that's a fact if you're saying for Saiyans, but it's arguably for the whole franchise

[@mookiestewart3776]

@@XZAVIER-DAA-GODnot really canon though so can’t really count …..yet

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

@@mookiestewart3776 the fuck you mean canon dog that shit doesn't matter, ssj 4 still apart of the franchise. Plus it was/is Cannon before super was Even a fuckin thought. Not is Super canon if you want to talk about Canon

[@Jpx0999]

Its not even about power at this point,the form grant other hax beside raw power boost,like magic immunity,a pseudo ultra instinct,power multiplier of the form grows overtime(hence why there inst a ssj5 but just more powerfull versions of ssj4 instead)

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

@@mookiestewart3776 huh but Toriyama is in gt as a character

[@koffibentum7452]

14:37 For the Chi-Chi take debunk THANK YOU!!

[@Lordgrayson]

The Goten being a monster is a Dubism. What she called him in the Japanese dub was the equivalent to a Delinquent, because in Japan blonde hair is synonymous with deadbeats/rebels/slackers, so she is upset that Goten looks like a delinquent instead of calling him a monster

[@ishowslow5044]

6:50 Not even Krillin was pushing back a ssjblue kamehameha 💀

[@thedevilsleutice]

Fat Buu is a better character in GT then he is in super, and why I argue that Fat Buu works better as a protagonist then in the role of a villain.

[@jeffdredd1172]

The plot holes guy, is he saying you can wish the bad guys away because pretty sure you cant kill someone stronger than shenron with the dragonballs.

[@naxmaxJK]

Honestly maybe even cell saga Tien by the end could mop freiza on namek cause that cell feat even if ineffective the fact that he could do any damage at all to second form cell is INSANE like i don't think people realise what it takes to do physical damage to people in that verse considering we've seen times huge blasts have done literally zero damage sometimes.

[@jaysmooth4998]

My favorite Dragonball fight might be Goku vs Tien. Them niggas was boxing!

[@veautifulvensei3613]

Toriyama said super sayian 3 is the pinnacle of sayian biology, and ultra instinct is outside influence u can’t achieve it with out god ki .

[@jimmyvasquez5298]

Exactly, I think he misunderstood, ssj3 regardless of the stamina drain is the top dog in terms of super sayian forms. Ultra instinct is more of a technique that anyone can master. Same with ultra ego

[@Kpharaoh.]

Everyone can't master ui or ue​@@jimmyvasquez5298

[@ElHarmonyV]

Funny enough the whole Goku is the Power of friendship even pops up on GT since the Universal Spirit Bomb is literally the friends he made along the way

[@death8156]

Manga Beerus makes him look like a joke spoiler he gets ganged up on by all the other gods of destruction in a exhibition match before the T.O.P and is basically going off.

[@stripschicken87]

And that is all without using Ultra Ego.

[@death8156]

@@stripschicken87 Deadass Belmod is a bit tricky as he doesn’t seem as hurt by the end of it. But I got the feeling he stayed down so as to not get as involved, either that or he’s different but I’d say it’s probably the first.

[@KimarKurosaski]

Now Sage let’s be fair in your Goku isn’t a bad father video you said Goku gave Gohan that tough training because he thought Gohan liked it. Chichi did the same to Gohan with studying and Gohan was shown to love it (loved school, dream of and eventually became a scholar) so honestly it’s very similar one just yelled more tbh lol

[@Kjklout]

Sage the goat fr best anime takes and best nba takes

[@arctichawk9998]

You get a sub for that goku vs jackie chun take. 100% agree that is the best fight in og dragon ball

[@Epicdragon-vn6hu]

Now that I think about it, it is a miracle Gohan has a healthy relationship with Videl

[@erikbialaszewski2445]

Yamaha took multiple slots from universe 6/7s strongest in that baseball game. Yamaha clears names frieza

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

Ssj3 use to be the best Saiyan transformation wise untill ssj 4, but still has the best theme music

[@kda9x]

Chi Chi wasn't even that bad in the manga. The anime added so many scenes were Gohan got his ass whooped. The tutor filler is a prime example, shit was actually horrifying. Chi Chi is the type of strict parent a kid sometimes needs, Goku is the type of parent the kids like more because he's laid back and playful.

[@rapidcougar3785]

The only why to make gohan into a good protagonist is to make him goku

[@cynicalfella]

15:30 shit man, you're asking for the exact amount. When goku met her at the tournament, When she got married, When Goku was having a heart problem and yelling, When Gohan told her Goku was coming back for the tournament, And when she thought Gohan was Goten back at the Baby saga

[@Macktavious_]

A good scaling for the Humans was the moment they were holding their own against the cell jrs

[@gabrielmachado1247]

Yeah gonna be honest,i saw somebody say you should read the manga,and yeah the manga has a lot of cool shit yiu should read xd

[@BaithNa]

That second dude confused plot holes with plot contrivances but the Dragon Balls are the premise of the show so its not a contrivances.

[@arkkon2740]

You can still argue that it is though. Its the premise of the show, but so is Barry Allen and speed but that made it worse. Even so, there's no reason why we have four sets of dragon balls now. One was enough, the limits were fine given how long the series ran for but four sets with even better wishes is just too much to be okay with

[@wukongisas9564]

​@@arkkon2740I mean with how vast the universe and multiverse is i would've been suprised if other versions of the dragon balls didn't exist

[@arkkon2740]

@@wukongisas9564 The dragon balls are namekian exclusive, yet two sets are on different planets with easy access, one grants any wish you want, and another one is a monkey's paw but you can choose the downside. Its too easy to get wishes in the series and its not even seen as a problem until Granolah does it

[@mrhopadopalus]

I know Krillen shows up in super with questionable power boosts. But you can't tell me that he has any narrative reason to be stronger than Tien. Tien trains all day every day, krillen trains like 3-5 times after the cell saga

[@dominiquerobinson8888]

Narrative reason lol. He’s goku’s best friend and has been involved far more in the plot of the story than Tien

[@mrhopadopalus]

@@dominiquerobinson8888 he's equally involved if not less actually if you are taking into account actual fighting and not just being on screen. The only arc Tien didn't take part in was namek. But Krillen misses the king piccolo arc, and then doesn't actually fight in the Buu saga where Tien (even though it's very little) does. Also neither of those things are narrative reason.

[@dominiquerobinson8888]

@@mrhopadopalus The reason Krillin is portrayed as stronger is because Tien’s involvement in the story is no where near as equal as Krillin. Out of the entire series Tien has only been more important in the 2nd tournament and king piccolo in Dragonball. Other than those 2, it’s Krillin who’s the one more involved in every single arc

[@mrhopadopalus]

@@dominiquerobinson8888 he isn't even portrayed as being stronger in the time he is on screen. Furthermore, just being more involved is rarely ever portraying him as powerful, after the Saiyan saga Krillen is rarely shown defeating anyone. What like maybe some freeza soldiers? If being on screen equates you power than Goku and piccolo shouldn't be much stronger than Gohan and Krillen when fighting freeza. If you are just saying it's a favoritism thing, then sure I agree, but what actually happens in the story post Ginyu force does not work in favor of Krillen being stronger.

[@dominiquerobinson8888]

@@mrhopadopalus I’m going off what you said about narrative reason. Krillin is the one who’s closer to the main characters in Gohan and Goku and is more actively involved in the story. So just off that narrative he’s the one viewed as more important out of that human trio of him Tien and Yamcha.

[@justcallmeparker6434]

Goku vs piccolo jnr was amazing but in the whole series is crazy... They be competin with Goku v Vegeta... Piccolo vs Android 17... Ssj goku vs perfect cell and the list goes on

[@billywilliams8378]

SSJ3 is the best form as it was done through training not random anger/plot. Vegita was enraged after Trunks death but no SSJ2 for him. Gohan was enraged against Freeza a bunch of times but didn’t get it yet Goten did. As for UI anyone can get that form not just Saiyans so it doesn’t really count. Furthermore a UI Roshi isn’t the same as a UI Gotenks.

[@MegaMachiOnline]

a lot of the shenanigans with chi chi is primarily toei though, in the sense they dial up her negatives to an 11, just like how a certain group treated Sakura

[@kennedy8926]

MUI isn't a form, it's considered a technique you can learn.

[@TheSkyrimps3]

I think it’s both and it’s just not exclusive to goku.

[@WonderedAtol]

​@@TheSkyrimps3it's a technique but saiyans(Although Goku is the only example) channel it through a transformation

[@RaylinKHD]

Isn't Ultra Instinct literally a god technique? Like his ki while in that form looks more like God ki then regular

[@SageVaughn]

Yeah, he doesn't know what he's talking about

[@zt2329]

5:03 I love gt but this is literally what I say about it everytime. Amazing ideas terrible execution. They tried making it back in dragon ball but then forgot that it is still dbz😂. But still love the show even for its flaws✊🏾

[@ackeemwatkin6298]

2 things The take with ssj3 being the best form a saiyan can obtain with no interferences he said no divine energy which means no ultra instinct since ultra instinct had always been considered something only the destroyers can learn and the Angels have And the part with chi chi calling goten a monster It's because in japan or japanese culture dying your hair especially dying it blonde is seen as delinquency and trying to I guess "overthrow" your parents rule over you.

[@Teezythegoat]

Goin back to the Chi Chi take. I think Toriyama used Bulma to demonstrate his views on White woman and how they behave vs Chi Chi and how a traditional Asian parent behaves. I also believe he wrote Chi Chi hella over the top because that might’ve been how his mother treated him when he was growing up lol

[@cyanidenightshade]

as much as i respect toriyama, he had a serious misogyny problem

[@_yaboi_O1]

I come here for the mental exercise

[@codenamelj]

Goku vs grandpa Gohan was awesome or even goku vs krillin was cracked

[@just_an_internet_explorer8038]

7:36 Piccolo literally tells everyone to not show up to fight with the androids unless they are stronger than the Frieza that touched down on earth. Everyone shows up after their training 3 years of training (minus Chiaotzu) and there is no mention of anyone there being weak. Therefore the humans are stronger than Namek Frieza.

[@OffTopicKamah]

Who’s mom didn’t scream at their kids for not prioritizing their studies? Ion know chichi being a bad mom is a miss take for me

[@arkkon2740]

Its the fact that she knows the earth is being threatened day in and day out, Goku likely told her the rest of the team is falling off, and they all know he's a likely successor to Goku. At the end of the day she got what she wanted, so giving him the chance to train extra was at zero cost to anybody

[@OffTopicKamah]

@@arkkon2740 chi chi isn’t a logical character by any regards.. i’m just saying there’s not too many mothers willing to risk their child getting hurt or killed even if it’s to save the world….

[@fatdurk7934]

@@OffTopicKamahshes the most logical tbh. Imagine being ok with sending ur 9 yod child to fight a crazy monster. Now that would be a bad mother.

[@TMoney24788]

nah because calling your son a monster with him RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU while sobbing is absolutely demonic. not even Paragus would call Broly a monster to his face

[@infinityslouchy8654]

Who would have call Broly espeically Z Broly a monster to his face? Also Chichi calling Goten a monster isn't suppose to be taken seriously and is just a funny joke in the series.

[@Cloudychanceofgrey]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's dub only. She calls him a delinquent in the original I think.

[@kyleGinyu]

Hot take: Super sayain Blue shouldn't have existed, it should've been Super sayain God until to the TOP where by ultra instinct is introduced.... And if it were to exist, I'd rather it be only exclusive to fusions like Gogeta/Vegito, but I'd rather it didn't exist at all..

[@dominiquerobinson8888]

That form ultimately just comes down to aesthetics lol. Cause ssj god was literally written out in the same movie it was introduced when Goku absorbed its power.

[@callmevec638]

Sage u should bring swagkage or someone on and debate them

[@codenamelj]

I had my pay off with vegeta during the buu arc when fighting kid buu.

[@morgan8070]

i cant stop thinking about the fact that this mans eyes are misaligned.

[@Cloudychanceofgrey]

Im almost positive chi chi calls him a delinquent in the sub.

[@yoshi7193]

The dude defending chi chi gotta be on a watchlist 💀

[@bigt100]

The only way a Saiyan can attain Super Saiyan 4 is if he is already a Super Saiyan, can transform into a Golden Great Ape and regain conscious control over the form. This transformation is the ultimate combination of both the humanoid Super Saiyan and the Golden Great Ape. U don't need blood waves or whatever he said so it's the ultimate form

[@ayshinobi3]

The dragon can't wish any STRONG villains away because shenron dont got the power to do that..

[@brosky7526]

Hot take they should have ssj4 in daimai

[@TheStinker7]

16:20 the chat💀💀💀

[@kizarru7350]

Here is my hot take : The reason why vegeta always lose against a antagonist is he’s motivation (test himself, pride, will to be the strongest) Goku in the other end is more “innocent” always believes that the opponent isn’t that evil. (Vegeta, Cell and Buu are good examples ) So when he an antagonist going demon time is anger make him stronger, he doesn’t like to see other suffer. (even though he did gohan dirty on cell saga but he believes in him I excuse him)

[@mihaicovaciu6634]

underated opinion: ssj2 is the best form ,not only it can be used perfectly with no high usage on ki but u can change to ssj3 and go back in case stuffs gets dire.

[@juelzdurant8095]

Krillen had actually grow a lot strong in during the time between cell saga and buu saga when it was stated that he trained with android 18 and when him and Yamcha was in heaven Yamcha beat someone that was on par with picon with weights and Goku at that time couldn't keep up with him but when krillen seen Yamcha beat him he he said it wasn't very impressive

[@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb]

It’s called Super Buu with Gohan absorbed

[@tm_35]

They gotta be trolling bruh lol

[@ssj3jaylen497]

I think people forgot the final fight in buu saga gives off a lot of payoffs for dragon ball

[@chuckyzrevenge]

0:24 but cant UI be performed by any race?

[@BlaxkSun]

I’d love to have a 1-on-1 wit sage on good 😂, between debates or coming up with new timelines have a ball

[@gx9183]

The thing about Dragon Ball not having stakes, you also gotta consider the Namekian Dragon Balls were a thing.

[@arkkon2740]

We have to remember that there are not only four sets of dragon balls, but arguably Whis or someone of the sort can just speed up the cooldown because they've done stuff for the cast just because it would be convenient

[@kym6479]

When Chi Chi hired a guy to whip Gohan while he did his homework😭

[@WonderedAtol]

Filler

[@VvEdits137]

She beat that dude up when she saw what he we doing. Seems like people forgot that part.

[@daxmoney5011]

11:20 pain arc doesn't make sense as the ending if Kishimoto wanted to end the series more quickly after that he would have had a 3rd Sasuke retrieval arc which would have been redundant, and Konan would have had to either kill Obito or die with him and like Cody Rhodes said it would have "finished the story" because the original Akatsuki was to bring about world peace, because if Obito dies he can not get the rinnegan and Obitos declaration of the 4th war would have fell flat on its face making him look like an idoit which would be ironic because thats how he was introduced.

[@GMP1isReal]

Both GT and Super have great ideas but mid executions and I'm tired of people just bashing on GT for its execution and not saying anything new. Baby is my favorite villain in all of Dragon Ball with his personality, abilities, and arc in how he turns the tables and he did what Zamasu did in becoming what he hated most by the end. I just find it frustrating Super is in the perfect spot to learn from the mistakes of all previous mistakes but just doesn't improve from them.

[@wc7800]

Correction, UI is a state of mind not a form and Tien’s not entirely human.

[@DYNAVORTEX]

Carthu's dojo have a video litrary explaining that how all human z fighters can easily beat mecha frieza who is stronger than namek frieza after the 3 years time skip

[@Somebeedude]

In my opinion, my top 3 favorite forms are Ssj Ssj3, then my 3rd varies between anime and manga Anime = Ui Manga = MUI

[@weirdboymarc7753]

7:20 every one smackes frieza besides chiotzu. olibu fought pikkah who pissed on A stronger perfect cell (frieza was shook) later after kid buu nukes the planet but be4 he desire's more smoke. YAMCHA is 2v1 smoking olibu and someone else which would put him at least cell lvl

[@weirdboymarc7753]

call it filler but the scalling makes more sense then the end of the goku black arc

[@sevsteralias1817]

Hoping that this makes it into a hot take video somehow. There is NO way krillin even remotely in par with namek frieza. When Beerus touched down on King Kai's planet and made the observation that Base Goku could not beat frieza(meaning even goku in his base hasn't surpassed frieza yet), it became very clear that everyone without ssj is not touching frieza even in the namek saga. This could be a mistranslation but idk tho.

[@scizorbullet8185]

7:40 very convinced this guy didn't watch the buu saga

[@dousuketoby1731]

Agree with nearly everything you said.

[@nicholasrolack1017]

15:58 the anime did chichi SOOOOOO dirty, she was RARELY like that in the manga. They really flanderized my girl 😔

[@nicholasrolack1017]

Btw in the original she calls goten a delinquent, in Japan in the 80’s, blond hair on Japanese teens was a sign of delinquency. It would be like if a black kids pants slipped down a little bit and his mom started crying about her son becoming a hood rat

[@y.aokiji1813]

I disagree with your reasoning for how gohan should’ve lost against super buu but I agree with the reasons why he should’ve lost. Not learning from a mistake is ok when it wasn’t that costly but the mistake leading to your father’s death can’t be one that’s repeated. I agree that it wouldn’t make sense for him to just beat super buu right after he returns to Earth and that he wouldn’t have really earned the win

[@gottagofast1548]

15:34 well i guess but are we really saying that gohan is hearing chichi? Dude could not care less about her opinion since he traveled to namek, and also why wouldnt a mother scream her soul out to her child that just came out from fighting a giant monkey that left him half dead and almost dying on namek, since the cell saga she is a better mother and i like how she doesnt repeat her patterns on goten, also goku doesnt obey any shit you could send that mf shopping and he would never come back with the things you told him to buy, also again he speaks so highly about goku in the buu saga, dude being a human in the regular world is hard enough chichi has to deal with the stress of the planet blowing up any time, and her children are hanging around with 40 year olds superheroes

[@jimmyvasquez5298]

The dragon balls are in fact the biggest plot convenient devices tbh. Even if everyone dies including dende, nothing is stopping the supreme kais or any of gokus other friends from using the namekian dragon balls, even furing the ressurectuon arc frieza said he was gonna kill all the namekians aswell so that no one can come back. Now that the super dragon balls exist its just another safeguard, WE DEADASS SEE THEM BRING BACK ALL OF EXISTENCE

[@davidterlecki7594]

Goku vs roshi is super under-rated. I'd have to think about the show for awhile if I can think of a fight I prefer.

[@kenjiNaga]

3 over 4?!

[@ZenithintheMaking]

Uub should be the new protagonist of Dragon Ball.

[@Thedamnram44]

Lol but the only time ssj3 was achieved was by fusion or die an train in the afterlife

[@AJfire0203]

the fact that he brought up blutz waves proves he included GT which means it is SSJ4 I think he forgot that goku got it from controlling the golden great ape which is just super sayain great ape so really any super sayain with a tail can go SSJ4 naturally 0:41

[@kingzeri]

In Moro all of the Z Fighters were boxing the invasion. I think that most of them got way stronger, including Yamcha.

[@michaelmayers3622]

Gt is good . Love it

[@AcroD2]

I got cooked.

[@possekidxan]

UI is a technique it wouldn’t really count as a form

[@espurrseyes42]

It looks like a form, he uses it like a form, and Whis even says something about how his UI is still imperfect because he uses it like a form rather than it being natural. It's a form.

[@possekidxan]

@@espurrseyes42 it’s not specific to saiyans anybody can do UI that makes it a technique SSJ is race specific and more of a evolution (1,2,3 etc) so those are Saiyan forms

[@espurrseyes42]

@@possekidxan Doesn't change the fact that it's used like it's a form and addressed in universe as that being the case. It's a form for all intents and purposes. Potential Unleashed isn't race specific either, and neither is Beast presumably, but they're forms. Your point?

[@possekidxan]

@@espurrseyes42 what does being “used like a form” mean… Kaioken is 100% a technique but he can stay in it like a form your point makes no sense

[@espurrseyes42]

@@possekidxan Kaioken doesn't change the hair like UI, and it's not a flat powerup like UI or a proper form. It's a powerup technique that can scale infinitely so long as he can handle the strain. It clearly distinguishes itself from a form even if Goku opts to use it for prolonged periods of time instead of a second or so like it was intended.

[@ShawnT-wu7oi]

I respect the opinion, but Goku v Jackie is not better than Goku v Piccolo I dont agree, Goku and Vegeta should surpass beerus. At this point in the series Vegeta is his own character, i dont see him as just a rival to Goku I totally disagree, with Chi chi being abusive, Chi chi is a good mother, and she isnt a bad wife either. Both Chi Chi and Goku crafted Gohan into a man he wanted to be. Hes a great fighter, very intelligent and hes a decent father, they dont really show much.

[@cav8628]

It has been theorized that SSJ3 can only be attained through special circumstances. I mean let’s see, Goku attained it through being dead, and Gotenks attained it through fusion. Those are the only two to attain it. So technically, SSJ2 is the strongest thing to be attained.

[@starwarsmicroseries]

They need god ki for ui

[@elijahhatcher8840]

I wouldn’t argue that Goku is a stale character, but I would argue that his character regressed throughout super.

[@dihssapontedman607]

Hot take: beast is worse than ssj rage. here's why first KND did it. second blanco did third teen gohan did it

[@newvegasadventures4173]

Krillin is a goat. He made Goku go blue

[@VvEdits137]

Either Gohan or Vegeta Should have won the Tournament Of Power, would have made for a better story than Goku winning again.

[@xxunnamedx3129]

14:38 When u think about gohan never got to decide for himself goku always wanted him to be a fighter while chichi wanted him to study, he never got to decide his future for himself.

[@tsfocus8317]

No when Goku and Gohan was training together hyperbolic time chamber Gohan told Goku he wants to be a scholar. He wasn't forced to be one Chichi just wanted her child to have basic necessities for society. A education so he can get a job and have bread. Goku thought Gohan was just like him until the end of the cell saga and let Gohan decide what he wants to do . Both Allowed Gohan to decide his future.

[@larrylobster9174]

Dragons balls aren't a plot hole plot holes are inconsistencies in a show the dragon balls is a plot device

[@RuanAntunes7]

7:02 wait what? Namek saga Frieza would get folded by even Yamcha post T.O.P. How I came to that conclusion is that during the Buu saga after Yamcha and Krillin went to other world Yamcha fought and beat Olibu who was nearly as strong as Pikkon and Pikkon knocked out Frieza with one blow That’s one of the worst takes I’ve seen in a while

[@SRVaris]

"Yamcha and Krillin went to other world Yamcha fought and beat Olibu who was nearly as strong as Pikkon and Pikkon knocked out Frieza with one blow" 1. That's Anime only 2. Pikkon knocked SUPER PERFECT CELL out in one blow

[@kingsaya5773]

Your funny time gets clapped by namek frieza😂

[@AbdulWasay3]

Sage make a video on Moro arc ,read it if u haven't its the best one in super❤❤

[@SGSensei]

7:29 This namek saga shit must be excluding Super and even then Tien exists, yes Tien isn't actually on the Androids or Cell level the Kikoho is just OP with a huge drawback in the Androids arc but by Buu Tien and Krillin are scrapping with 16 or imperfect cell they gotta be I mean yall might say Krillin washed but he was holding up to 18 and before you say she's holding back nah bro 18 was about the bag she was going into that tournament with the money involved she was not playing. This before we count Super so in Super Krillin is pushing Goku to blue so bare minimum hes God Level pushing him to blue doesn't mean hes blue level exactly. Then we got Roshi who is scrapping with Frost who is on ssj Goku and Vegeta in the TOP level like what are you guys talking about I'm not saying Krillin Roshi and Tien are cooking Buuhan in a fight but they aren't losing to Cell Saga Characters let alone Namek level

[@landslide14]

You can't reach ultra instinct with god energy (divine energy). That's why the gods stood up when goku reached it.

[@Bentley7Cruize]

Chichi might be abusive to us, but shes the typical japanese tiger mom lol