"I Told You Something is Coming & Now It's Here..." | Victor Davis Hanson

[@Aviation_Professional]

When my son decided to be a Trim Carpenter I was thrilled. He is self sufficient, has 3 great kids and a supportive wife. He made over 150k last year and is thriving! That is the American Dream.

[@cliffkonkle3467]

And???.??

[@ted.angell7609]

@@cliffkonkle3467and he stayed at Holiday Inn Express last night

[@bruceli9094]

True. But Americans need to pursue careers in STEM - we need to be at the cutting edge of Quantum computers, A.I, Space travel, New age materials, etc. The science field is too important to cede to other nations who are our competitors.

[@deeporter7369]

We need both.

[@SonsOfThunder229]

@@cliffkonkle3467and he isnt in debt...

[@Damon_Strong]

My Grandfather told me to learn a trade, so I skipped furthering my education and became an auto mechanic. I have no regrets and have a healthy income.

[@kencraig6526]

45 yrs working on cars raised 4 kids and own my home

[@deloresdilday3978]

I skipped college in 1978 got my real Estate license and bought rental s ..totally no regret !❤

[@donnaleveron5711]

And job security.

[@cherylshumaker8436]

My husband skipped college and enlisted in the Marines (during Viet Nam war). Afterwards we started the first of three businesses.... all in the same field (repair service). All three are still in operation and are doing very well. We have always made a very good salary and we never had to worry about a massive student debt. College is way too overrated.

[@dbmail545]

Mine too. But I wanted more but 40 years later plumbers are getting more than electronics technicians. Technology changes but folks always need to take a dump.

[@janofb]

It's not higher education, it's higher indoctrination.

[@CuttySX455]

This is a newer problem ! It wasn't that way when I went to college in the mid 80's. Not once can I remember a professor that spoke about politics !

[@deborahhernandez2600]

100 PERCENT CORRECT

[@robschaller9061]

The reason young men are bailing on marriage is because women are not worth the time of day. You may not LIKE what I say, but it does not change the TRUTH of what I am saying. HISTORICALLY, women were valued for their sexual purity. That was a SOCITAL directive if it was a HUGE social taboo to have sex outside of marriage, then IN GENERAL that is what people largely did. Certainly adultery and fornication occurred no one is denying that fact, HOWEVER, it was viewed VERY unfavorably by society. The pill and Feminism particularly 3rd wave feminsm has destroyed those taboo's. When you couple that with Social media and its NEGATIVE impact on women you can see a world where the USA if this does not change will cease to exist. Meta level research has shown that women view online profiles of MEN as to be "undatable" Are you 6' tall or taller? Do you make a MINIMUM of 6 figures and you arent yet 30? Are you in great shape and on a scale of 1-10 do women consider you an 8 or better? THAT is the FLOOR for men... of that 20% only a small percentage of those men show traits of HIGH value. They are good with women in conversation and know how to engage her to FEEL something that feeling is the spark that creates attraction. That amounts to al bit under 5% and ALL these women are chasing that small pool of women and they are SHARING that man. Ask a woman if she had to choose between an IDEAL man who cheats or a GOOD man who is broke....the VAST majority will pick the cheater. You are starting to see young women in small numbers speak out loudly about how women have to change and then and only then they can start demanding that men's values with sex change. But unless they give away the only think men value, then we are screwed In short, marriage benefits the ex-wife and generally completely destroys the man

[@jonathangarmuth8975]

How many classes have you been in lately?

[@MargateFL33063]

Great quote!

[@marksamuelsen2750]

When I got out of the USAF I used the GI Bill to go College and after 2 semesters I quit. Went into Flight Training and flew professionally for 30+ years made a decent living and got married and now have 2 daughters that are in their early 30's and are happily married. I'm now 71yo and if I pass away tonight I will meet our God, shake his hand with a smile on my face.

[@johnpelszynski6646]

GOOD RAP. THANKS

[@gregsmith7949]

It's unbelievable that 22 year Olds emerge from college with a totally useless degree and saddled with $100,000 debt to get said useless degree.

[@duanescot]

There was a reason why they got rid of Home Ec and other practical classes in high school, they can't prey on people who have basic financial knowledge...

[@dks13827]

@@duanescot and shop class !!!

[@ljprep6250]

It is $272,000 debt for a 4-yr college. Columbia in NY is $69k/yr, USC in CA is $68k/yr.

[@Zombeegun]

would you like fries with that?

[@robmichael8136]

You mean useless degrees, tons of debt, and political indoctrination

[@bhm8204]

i'm 57 yr old female. i worked in an office job for 12 years. i got laid off. i was 32 yrs old. i took a career assessment test and i scored higher in technology. i decided i wanted to be an electrician. IBEW in my city was accepting applications. i took a math class to prepare. took the apprenticeship test. had to have a live interview. i got accepted. i am not a feminist. i found something i liked to do and went for it. i loved the work. such a sense of accomplishment when you see the fruits of your work. and i never had any sexual harassment from the guys. there were all great and helpful. at the time i got in, there were some women, but not very many. totally different now. now they've got many with the toxic feminazi mentality..all that 'girl boss'.. 'woman hear me roar' nonsense. so glad i'm away from all that.

[@kilburn1313]

My better half started her upholstery apprenticeship at age 32 years, mostly all male enviroment & some would laugh at her struggling with a lounge or similar larger item instead of offering help, she did this work about 25 years now she does in home care, most people just buy new furniture now & don't recover because of cost's

[@artiglesias9317]

THE "TRADE UNIONS" WERE CLOSED TO ANYONE WHO DID NOT HAVE A RELATIVE IN THE UNION YEARS AGO. YOU WERE LUCKY THINGS HAVE CHANGED. I AM HAPPY FOR YOU. ELECTRICAL WORK IS ENJOYABLE. BE SUPER SAFE.

[@ApriliaRacer14]

Good on you!!!

[@magnus9165]

So glad the Union helped you. Are you still a member?

[@cathiwim]

Mine was woodworking. Only girl in a class of 25 and got straight A’s in cabinet making. Went on to work in small furniture factories, woodworking retail shops, etc. love it, still doing it, and I am 68. Kudos to you!

[@JamesWeaver-n4t]

College is for becoming an engineer, doctor, lawyer, most everything else is a waste of money. Like my dad told me, learn a trade and you'll always make a good living. He was absolutely correct

[@bryanwalthall5483]

I would say it is even MORE important to learn a trade now. AI is going to take a lot of jobs, but AI can't build houses, fix plumbing, wire a building, fix your AC, repair cars or weld/braze anything. If I had a kid who was thinking about college, I would try my damndest to get them to go to trade school.

[@ad6417]

This doesn't apply in largely blue-collar communities. Where I live there is a shortage of college graduates and there are too many tradesmen. Therefore my sons are going to college.

[@ReligionOfSacrifice]

If Israel has no time of trouble in the two times of Anti-Christ or the cut off time of Anti-Christ, then if Israel is having trouble what time are we in? Daniel 7:25-26 “He will speak against Allah, to wear out the saints of the Highest One, intending to change time to a decree (stop all time - decrees are final), and give his hand a time, and a time, and a cutting off time. But the judgment shall be final and his dominion (the beast healed of a deadly wound known as the restored Ottoman Empire) shall pass away, then annihilation, the perishing of the end.” Revelation 12:12b-14 “The false one has come to fall, possessing great wrath, seeing his hold is a short time, for the dragon perceiving a casting out of the Earth shall pursue a woman who gives birth to a male with two wings, it is a great Eagle loving the woman, an order of things, to fly in a wilderness, her place where there is nourishment, time, time, the cutting off time, in the presence of the serpent.” Okay so October 7, 2023 didn't happen in either of the two times of Barack Hussein Obama or Donald Trump, but did happen in the time of Joe Biden who is a demented Alzheimer patient who put in the exact same staff into the White House as Barack Hussein Obama. This would mean in the midst of a week of an image of his time we might be in the time of annihilation the perishing of the end. ******************************************************** If you saw Palestine whole and a restored Ottoman Empire I think the world would not be impressed, nor would a restored Ottoman Empire make them more hopeful for a good future. Kind of like listening to Kamala Harris tell us her thoughts. Would a Muslim leader from America in Palestine whole with ten idiot Muslims under him to make a restored Ottoman Empire want a glorified idiot woman to deal with in America or his major rival Donald Trump? Neither. So where is all this going? Amos 1:6-7 “For thus saith Yahweh, “for three transgressions of Gaza, four, I will not revoke being against: they capture people at peace with them (1) and bring them to be shut up (2), bloody (3). And send fire over the wall of Gaza (4), and consume all of the citadels.” Habakkuk 1:9-11 "All come, Hamas, assemble the horde of the east, gather the captives like sand. Mock the ruler, and their judgment a joke, laugh as all strongholds become rubble, seize them, then pass through like the wind, pass through guilty by the strength of your god.” Amos 4:12 “Therefore, thus, I will make Israel a consequence, because you have made it this, firmly meeting your god, Israel! Behold who can form a mountain, creating, The Spirit declared unto man, what a thought! I come at the dawn of the darkness, treading the high places of the Earth, Yahweh, our God, Lord of hosts, is a name.” Will the West Bank let the second attack be all glory unto Gaza Strip yet again? Obadiah 1:10-11 “from out of Hamas, your brother, a deceiver, cover your shame, and you will be cut off forever. In that day you stood afar, on the day the strangers were carried away in strength. And the stranger entered to cast lots for Jerusalem, then you were one of them.” John 5:43 “I am come in My Father's name, and ye receive Me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.” Jesus is not the author of confusion. He would never mock in this way His own, unless He revealed the man most damned in the Old Testament and His own disciples also revealed Truth of the lawless one. Luke 10:18 “and He (Jesus) said, “I saw Satan as Barack Obama.” Micah 6:16 "It is owed unto America, and all who work the deed and the house Ahaz ("he has grasp the ten") and watch and keep you with their strange counsel. Walk in it for the purpose; I will give you up to desolation. And your inhabitants shall be a derision, for you will bear and be a reproach my people." Hosea 10:10 “It is in my desire that I should chastise them; and the people shall be gathered against them, when they shall bind themselves in their two furrows (West Bank and Gaza Strip).” Obadiah 1:12-13 “Do not gloat over your brother’s day of taking strangers captive, nor rejoice in the day the sons of Judah are destroyed, do not boast in the day of distress. You should never enter at the gate of My people, in the day of their distress. Moreover do not gloat over their calamity in the day of their disaster, sending wealth in the day of disaster.” Ezekiel 46:1-3 "Thus saith Adonai, Yahweh, "The Gate of the inner court facing the East shall be shut six working days, but open the Sabbath (Saturday), open the day of new moon. THE PRINCE shall enter by way of the porch of the gate from outside and stand by the post of the gate; then the priests and sacrifice shall make whole burnt offering, sacrifice and prostration at the threshold of the gate, and exit, and the gate shall not be shut until the evening. All the peoples of the land shall also worship at the doorway of the gate, before Yahweh on Sabbath and on new moon."" The day described above is November 1, 2024. It would put the rapture of Revelation 11:7-15 on election day in America this year. Luke 17:24 “Only as Barack Obama exits heavens in one part and then thus Allah Obama, then doeth the Son of man have His day.” Habakkuk 3:11-13 "From the east the crescent stood at the heights, walking in the light of the weapons, the radiance of Barack (Husein Obama) from the thrust. There is indignation at his march on the Earth; in anger he trampled the nations. He went forth for the salvation of his people; for the salvation he's anointed. Now strike the head of the house of the wicked; lay him open from thigh to neck, commune with the Lifted High." Isaiah 14:14 “Allah Obama ab dama elyown.” Isaiah 14:14 "The Most High springs forth onto from above the heights in dark outer garment, I will become the god over all things." Isaiah 14:16 "They that see thee shall squint, saying, "this the man who shakes the whole world? He shook merely the region of the first." Isaiah 14:27-31 "Yahweh is the head of a force of armies, who can plan to frustrate? If His hand is stretched out who can turn it back? For the year is the year of the brought down king, Ahaz ("ahaz" means "he has grasp the ten"). He is dead is the oracle to come. Rejoice not Palestine though now thee be whole, for the rod who struck has been broken. The serpent is at the root with a venom. It shall go forth as a fruit, a flying forth from the serpent. Those most hopeless shall lie down in bonds, and shall die at the root in need, for their remnant will be slain. Wail at the judgment, cry out city as you melt, O Palestine now whole. For smoke from the North, and none shall break rank." 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 "Let not one in any way deceive, it come not unless apostasy of the first of mankind, lawlessness revealed in a Son of destruction. The opposition to appointment exalted above every so called god or object of worship, therefore sit in the temple of a god, and display thyself as that god." 2 Thessalonians 2:8-9 “At that time a lawlessness will be Revelation. The demonstration, of which our Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth, abolishing at the appearing of His coming. One whose presence is in accordance with the power of Satan, all power of signs of falsehood marvelous.” Psalms 97:1-3 “YAHWEH reigns on the Earth so rejoice, many lands shall rejoice in the clouds, a mass surrounded in righteousness, the judgment shall fall on the foundations, for His throne. Fire comes before to consume the adversaries round about.” Psalms 97:4 “BARACK lit up the whole world, the Earth, see it tremble.” Psalms 97:5-6 “The mountain melted like wax before the face of YAHWEH, before the face of YAHWEH, all the Earth. For the heavens declare His righteousness, all the peoples see His glory.”

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

I got a biology degree while paying my way with a hammer. Taught school briefly before returning to the trades. My degree helped save my health when it fell apart due to the weaponized food and medical system.

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

But college is horribly over priced.

[@blue-xk7gj]

I'm a licensed electrician. My kids are grown and all work. I'm happily single, debt free and work whenever I want. Blessed.

[@juliannerivera3021]

What does single have to do with it?

[@elonever.2.071]

@@juliannerivera3021 Obviously you dismissed the 'debt free' part of his statement.

[@petesaria-hf1xh]

And you're going to live forever, right?

[@martinholmes639]

@@juliannerivera3021 The guy has grown kids which implies being once married. Now he's single, so either the wife died or the marriage became unsuitable. "Happily single" implies a separation/divorce. That's what "single" has to do with it. He's doing OK....

[@outwiththem]

@@petesaria-hf1xh Ar U a demoract bringing lies into the convers ?

[@c.b.-11]

I used a God Given gift of Painting houses. I did it 36yrs. I enjoyed watching my crew raise their kids and loved to see them succeed. We graduated high school is about all but we could paint like nobody else and we showed up every morning

[@PYC000]

Wish you were in my area. So many pass themselves off as pro painters whose work does not show it at all.

[@MrBrian987987]

How are your lungs?

[@matthewstrauts5427]

@@MrBrian987987pretty presumptuous don't you think?

[@Debra-k1f]

My husband too.... he passed away recently after 41years. He had asthma, COPD.. but it runs in his family. He died of a broken neck and a TBI, 460 days in Craig Hospital. 😢

[@marigail9234]

@@Debra-k1fvery sorry for your loss.

[@tommooe4524]

We stopped hiring college grads a year ago, instead we select bright applicants and train them individually according their job description…..so far so good

[@He_isI]

Where can I apply?

[@tommooe4524]

@@He_isI thank you

[@ashleywright8686]

Wow! That’s wonderful! Good going!

[@Robsav-yx6vi]

Sad . Your choice of course. Select bright applicants period.

[@HollyMoore-wo2mh]

Wait til they figure that out.

[@whatwhat530]

The diversity needed on campus is diversity of thought.

[@nibiay3985]

cookiecutter

[@gbob9971]

Leave diversity for the plant and animal world.

[@jenniferfisher530]

Amen

[@edoliver7990]

My brother and I always said that universities want phenotypic diversity not diversity of the mind!

[@lst9559]

@@edoliver7990 I though diversity meant if you are not smart we will let you go to college. It's someone else place in the classroom but that's OK we want citizens that are completely stupid.

[@michellegriffith4200]

My son said to me " Mom I want to be my own boss" so he went to Barber school. Doing very well.

[@davidrichardson5153]

The money university’s charge now is off the wall. Students are now being mis sold - don’t ask us workers to pay for someone else’s education- NO

[@bastait]

yall always miss the forest for the trees they stole anything of worth from you long ago. you have the ghost of money.

[@Craig52-zq1bt]

You paid for these Marxist indoctrinated stooges every time Biden paid their tab and put it on the backs of taxpayers. REMEMBER....you are NOT a citizen, you are a resource, a taxpayer

[@SeerSeekingTruth]

No one should pay the loans need to be canceled period. These young people can’t get a mortgage for a house that is a wise investment and doubles in value but they can sign them up for loans for education all day long. This whole thing is a scam and kids should never be able to sign a loan note for schools but not for a house…

[@rdub1042]

​​@@SeerSeekingTruth take a loan on a home and it's a liability. An investment creates revenue. A home is a liability burdened with interest, insurance, taxes, HOA dues, and repairs. You may double your money, but at what profit margin after the above items, including a commission and closing costs? What about capital gains? Most people think they have a profit or unrealized capital gain on their home, but reality is they carry a net loss.

[@parajerry]

@@rdub1042 It's not a loss at all if you factor in the cost you would have paid to RENT someone else's property. The idea is to reduce your housing cost to a minimum, possibly even turning a profit if the market performs well. Paying rent you will NEVER reduce that cost or leverage that money for possible profit.

[@flyonwall360]

I joined the Army for college money in 1983 and was trained in telecommunications. In 1996, I went to college. After 2 semesters, I dropped out, realizing that it was a big waste of money. 40 years later and I am glad that I stayed with telecommunications. Nowadays, I deliver high-speed internet to many customers who are working a miserable job to pay off their student loans.

[@impeached]

that kinda comes clean of a full circle then huh? Not the exact shape I would prefer, but it does have a bit of irony there, wouldnt you say? :)

[@ryanwolf4101]

I was in a work co-op program in high school in the nineties. Went to school part time and then went to work full time. I graduated from high school with a career, experience, and licenses (training and testing paid by my employer) to operate water treatment plants for a major city. After twenty-five years I retired and started drawing my pension and took off a year to remodel my home. Now I am back to work for them. I'm debt free, own properties and re-investing my pension all the while building up a new pension and NO COLLEGE!

[@Mo-Angry-Cat]

Wish i could give you five thumbs up

[@Bigfield47]

…that’s the way you do it…

[@mitchellfamily1983]

Agree 100%

[@billbrock8740]

BRAVO! GREAT JOB!!!

[@mistermylo8607]

You’re just paying more taxes on those pensions and income. Hope you can leave it to some deserving child or grandchild, otherwise it will go back to the government .

[@Whatfer]

I'm glad that I was born in the middle of the last century. Everything is going downhill fast from my perspective.

[@darylfoster6133]

People could get a degree in two years instead of four if they took only the classes required for their major. You're forced to take two years of fluff in order to line the pockets of the college bureaucracy.

[@mynamedoesntmatter8652]

That fluff changes people’s perspectives on life for the worse. It’s the ruination of their minds, and no one, including them, gets anything good out of it.

[@kauffrau6764]

Exactly, those first two years of general studies are boring too and don't help the overall GPA.

[@treespirit2000]

Top-notch idea!

[@stog9821]

In England, Australia and a number of other countries it generally takes three years to get a degree.

And, after taking those fluff classes, you will not be one iota more well-rounded.

[@RonGoldman-s7g]

Victor Davis Hansen is one of the most brilliant minds of our time.

[@mcollins5723]

so are you

[@Nursfaith]

Yes he is

[@Proverbs--tx6yr]

Jordan Peterson as well

[@wynshiphillier313]

He can't even speak coherently!

[@henriperlman310]

I just read his " The End of Everything" Brilliant

[@rosssiren5258]

The Universities should be held accountable.

[@matthewstrauts5427]

That would be like saying we should hold our government accountable. Good luck!!!!!

[@micheleh5269]

@@matthewstrauts5427 Anyone working for the government can get Loan Forgiveness.

[@elonever.2.071]

Best way to hold them accountable is to go elsewhere to get your education.

[@Lynn-i2w]

And Congress…funding wars instead of public education at state universities.

[@europeanlove-111]

criminal organisations

[@douglasskinner]

I've been saying for over 30 years the same thing; a major problem in America is that too many people have gone to college.

[@sirclarkmarz]

i didn't have the grades or the cash to go to college. poor me after serving in the navy i became a plumber and then retired with no debt at 55

[@Valdal98]

Too many that don’t need it. Not enough good craftsmen and women.

[@cherict3400]

I was told in high school - if you don't go to college you are nothing and you will not succeed - I was never offered any other options only the option of 4 yr college. Due to lack of resources I could not go - my parents could not afford it and would not allow me to get loans. The result - I am now a 50 yr old failure living as one of the working poor. I even spent over 20 yrs trying to get a college degree...I recently completed enough college courses to receive an associates in general studies but it has been rendered worthless by corp America. I will never make enough money to live let alone pay back all the money I borrowed to get the degree. And NO - I am not getting my loans paid by the Biden Administration. That folks is the American reality for most people.

[@Valdal98]

@@cherict3400 I’m really sorry.😢

[@davestang5454]

College degrees have become cheapened to the point where millions of people with 4 year and even 6 year degrees are either stuck in low paying jobs or unemployed while vainly searching for well-paying jobs.

[@JudySanza]

I’m a retired English teacher and adjunct professor. I retired 20 years ago. I complained and preached that our courses were not relevant and did not provide any marketable skills. We introduced a technical writing course and it was a success.

[@Di-Pi]

Retired teacher here- BA in English from UC Berkeley. That and a $ was good for a coffee back then. Do not regret my appreciation of good literature tho’! 😂

[@Wolf.88]

Excellent

[@Thane36425]

Right. High schools are failing to teach basic writing and communications. Colleges should only have to have something like that technical writing course to polish what the students already should have. But now they have remedial English and other courses.

[@babajaiy8246]

The idea of marketable skills was never the point of Universities. That's what community colleges/trade schools are/were for.

[@brassman7599]

I agree, virtually every student that wasn't an English major found English classes absolutely worthless. Most of the majors that use technical writing have their own dedicated writing classes as each field has their own writing methods.

[@chrism2042]

I started working as an electrical helper at 15 yrs old. Joined the military at 17, got out at 21 and went back into electrical work. Passed the state electrical contractors exam at 25 yrs old, started my own electrical business at 26 years old with one commercial contract and $1500. I worked 7-days a week solo for almost 18 months until I either had to hire employees or turn down jobs. By 28 yrs old I had 45 employees and blanket contracts on commercial buildings. No loans, no handouts, just hard work with a professional attitude. For 10 years I worked on jobsites with the employees every day while doing sub-contract design work for engineers and architects nights and weekends. Then started my engineering business year later. I started two businesses, ran both businesses and cash flowed both businesses that have been very successful since 1997. Not recommending any young people avoid an education (if they are going to use it). But a college education is useless for so many that don't use it. I dropped out of school and have a 10th grade education. My in the field knowledge and experience has taken me much further in life than most people with a college education.

[@PO-vx2pq]

👏👏👏👏👍

[@wms72]

I'm impressed. You're heroic

[@chrism2042]

@@wms72 - All I was trying to get across was, it does not take a college degree to succeed in life. And it sure doesn't take going $100k in student loan debt to get out of college making $60k annually.

[@carolluther1625]

Absolutely correct!

[@TeamFish15]

Well done!!

[@johnm.robertssr.2953]

I quit high school when I was 16 and my father said that I couldn't join the carpenter's union until I had my GED . It took me 21/2 months then I joined the union . Now I'm 64 years old semi retired own an old house on 5 acres 3 investment properties and it's all payed for not 1 mortgage . My wife and I have an 1/2 acre garden and a freezer full of deer meat. We are doing pretty good not really needing anything . Over the years I have found that Educated people have little to no common sense . It's our children and grandchildren we worry about .

[@CharleneTruncer]

It is not truly educated people who are idiots. Lots of nurses, drs, traditional teachers(though fewer now), & other STEM grads pretty much run the true Inner workings of the country.

[@JamesLybarger]

My Dad told me before he died that the young people that he worked with has NO COMMON SENSE. I miss him so much!

[@craigpennington1251]

So true about No common sense bit.

[@unbreakable7633]

My father was very well educated, spoke several languages, but he was stuffed with common sense and a very practical man, could fix about anything electronic. He'd laugh at that statement.

[@ChasOnErie]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@born2bbald12]

I am a retired IT Manager of several decades. When I looked at an applicant for hire I considered their "education". If they had a more "prestigious" education I rarely hired them. What I looked for in a candidate was very simple: 1) Were they humble (teachable) 2) Could they think (critically) 3) Did they have an excellent work ethic. As for the required knowledge for the job that is important, _however_, in the IT business only the last 6 months really count because the industry was constantly evolving. What I found was that the "more educated" a person was the more narcissistic they were. They were only interested in what the company could _give_ them rather than what they could do to help the team. They would complain more and work less. By the way, that was 30 years ago. Today, based on what I see, I would never hire anyone from a so-called "Ivy League" school. Why? Because they were trained by Socialists - literally.

[@ashleywright8686]

Like Mike Rowe has been preaching for years: “Trade schools! Trade schools! Trade schools!” 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@donaldkasper8346]

Yeah, and make it to 50 if lucky with arthritis and major injuries and cannot work any work with Social Security age constantly being increased, soon to hit 70.

[@ickdon7999]

@@donaldkasper8346. Typical response from a weak leftist. Working a trade will build your body, not break it down.

[@JDSly1]

I got into a trade thirty years ago as a machinist. The pay-- in the early years-- wasn't all that great until I became more proficient in my craft, but now I'm making money hand over fist, and with no college loan debt. I asked for a substantial raise recently and got 100% of it.

[@donaldkasper8346]

@@JDSly1 Machinist never made great money. Now, once you set up the machine it just bangs out the parts with no more work from you.

[@JDSly1]

@@donaldkasper8346 I'm making good money. Guys that aren't are the ones that are afraid to ask for generous raises. That's on them. Ever seen the Machinery Handbook, our "bible" of the trade? The latest edition (32nd) is 3000 pages long and costs $125 new. If I handed you that book and stood your elitist ass in front of a lathe or mill, you wouldn't know what to do. It is way more complex that you seem to think. 30 years in the trade and still learning new things.

[@dancarruthers1567]

Young people are sitting in front of computer screens having a false life!

[@skippylippy547]

So true. This is a horrifying waste of our resources and a travesty to human life.

[@geridannels1701]

Old grannies are too!

[@johnwalker6140]

Stop stealing their future from them and they might be able to live life to the extent that you did growing up during the easiest time to be alive

[@michaelhalbert-q2f]

True, but real life has become quite horrible, so maybe they're on to something.

[@shawnbruce6934]

Yes they are.

[@brianc5225]

He is the goat Intelligence/common sense This country is lucky have this This country is lucky to have this man I would advise every citizen to suck up the knowledge you have

[@anthonydidonato7692]

I was a school dropout learn to bake at 15yrs old opening my business at 20yrs old and retired after 51yrs in business And im from Europe came here at 10yrs old. Work hard and youll succeed .only in America and if you do not succeed on America and I bet my life you will never succeed anywhere else.

[@TheBrooklynbodine]

My most sincere congratulations to you, sir!

[@toddhiggins6318]

The main goal of government education is to train people to obey authority without question.

[@bwghall1]

yes and to be in Dept so as they can control you.

[@darrenyoung4893]

absolutly rite no chance of free thinking

[@garnerjoyce606]

Mr. If I only Had a brain! What occupation you looking for: I certainly don't need that motion picture

[@toonybrain]

Bingo

[@Allingoodfun2000]

That time is over-we are on to em now!

[@gphilipc2031]

Yes, they are learning something. They will resent what has been stolen from them and their parents under the disguise of higher learning some day.

[@philipbrit13]

And then will want reparations I am guessing

[@dwightcurrie8316]

@@philipbrit13 LMAO!!!! Highly Likely

[@jamesgilbert4152]

Then how would our government. disarm us or steal elections how would a 1 world order dictatorship be pulled off? No they need weak unarmed ignorant workers in their hive

[@brianpalmer4643]

I wish you were right...I think they will blame "the system" or "the man". They will (mostly) never look in the mirror and admit they royally screwed themselves by believing the higher education lie.

[@krazipynaple]

@@philipbrit13 In the form of a refund 🤣

[@eagle49624]

Went to college to get a degree in journalism in 1969. Changed major to psych in 1970. Discovered computers in 1971. Dropped out of college in 1972 and spent my entire career in the computer field. College can help you find your niche but a degree isn't necessary for you to be successful or happy in life. BTW, I paid for my college myself. Student loans weren't available back then.

[@LuisGonzalez-in9vy]

I am a MD and worked in academic medicine for 19 years. Saw the changes in the quality of students admitted to medical school and specialty training because of the DEI push. On an evening I arrived on call and saw a patient that had a surgical procedure before. Evidently something was wrong. Talked to the young doctor who performed the surgery about the need to take this patient back to surgery. His answer was “let the on-call team do it because I’ve already completed my 8 hr shift”. Needless to say, we took the patient back to surgery and luckily saved her life. That’s the kind of person being admitted to medical schools because of diversity and inclusion quotas. Just one of many examples of DEI used to accept individuals into educational programs when they really don’t have what it takes to do their job.

[@nickfraser422]

some priests work nine to five................instead of saving souls

[@identifying.as.asovereignhuman]

I wouldn't want a tired surgeon operating on me.

[@justicewokeisutterbs8641]

​@@identifying.as.asovereignhuman "I wouldn't want a tired surgeon working on me." I've worked as a licensed professional in hospitals for over forty years. For most of that time the story has been that getting into medical school, as a baseline, required a perfect academic record and a lot more. IF they got accepted into a program, medical school was grueling, and after that residency involved long duty shifts at all hours, not uncommonly with inadequate sleep, and it doesn't end with residency. I once had family members in critical care after a car wreck for several weeks and I ran into doctors I normally worked with at the hospital in the middle of the night- still working, and I knew they had worked all that day and would be at work the next day as well. What impressed me was that under those conditions they were able to not just assess and accurately diagnose patients, they also made critical decisions about care. They are the head of the medical team. Not just anyone could qualify for or survive the training to be a physician. Even after getting into medical school the training still eliminated many. I've also heard established physicians comment that in their profession, they have to be "perfect". Now those standards have been thrown out by the morons pushing DEI. The priority is "diversity" and "representation", NOT to get the BEST possible practitioners who have survived a rigorous competency gauntlet and can deliver the highest quality of care possible under challenging conditions when needed. If this irresponsible, IDIOTIC trend isn't reversed you can look forward to having increasing numbers of "doctors" who don't have the stamina to be competent ALL THE TIME, and who make critical mistakes that may cost the life and health of you and yours. But hey, who cares about that as long as all of the identity boxes are ticked and everything is "equitable and inclusive" according to people who know NOTHING about medicine?

[@bruced.370]

​@@identifying.as.asovereignhumanor a DEI

[@michaelbush58]

Very few ​@@nickfraser422

[@slickwillie9526]

I've been a software engineer for 40 years. I've never seen so many dumb people applying for technical jobs with a degree. Studies degrees are a no-go right from the get-go.

[@keyser456]

I've "only" been in it for 25 years. Even the book-smart ones don't seem to understand all of the ceremony in today's dev shops isn't actually adding value to the product. They'd rather build 27 layers of indirection and complexity because "that's what Amazon/Google do" and have the project never see the light of day, than to get the product built and released. They'll tell you with a straight face that's the "right" way. Their resumes are a mile long w/ all the right buzz words but on failed projects they had an active part in causing.

[@Jehucurliss2kings]

How is your health ?

[@silverhammer7779]

@@keyser456 Although I never worked in software development, it sounds like the typical "one guy doing the work and fourteen supervisors" model that's so common in other industries. Remember the old joke about a camel being a horse designed by a committee?

[@charles-y2z6c]

Same here. I am in my 60's and write manufacturing software, we look to hire and all the SE want to know if we do iPad apps.

[@TheRambler-pz1gx]

@@keyser456 The "27 layers" is on purpose. Its the new "walk around with a purpose with a paper in your hand". Its to make ones self look like they are actually doing something while doing nothing at all. When you have incompetent leadership they will eat it up as working hard. I know guys making $800k a year whom spend all day writing pages of notes to stuff with in the code they review. Once they have enough pages they just have GPT rewrite it a slightly different manner. After about a year he only works 20 hours a week of real work, and copy paste large swaths of jargon. Once you get so much bloat within a system no one can tell what you are up to until you are long gone. He never stays at a places longer than 2 - 3 years.

[@wilecoyote2074]

Friend of mine has a daughter who attends UCLA. He complained to me about her indoctrination. I point blank asked him why he pays her tuition, that he was financially supporting a broken and corrupt system

[@DChristina]

Compassion needed for what’s already done…I agree it’s indoctrination, yet complaining doesn’t help anybody.

[@lindahowell1415]

Education is NOT indoctrination. Read the definition in a dictionary.

[@MDAdams72668]

@@lindahowell1415 Correct BUT his point is that UCLA is NOT educating they are INDOCTINATING

[@DChristina]

@@lindahowell1415- What’s being called education in the public s hills is quite often real and actual indoctrination of woke ideologies. Look that up.

[@pamellasmith2503]

My uncle regretted funding his granddaughters UT indoctrination ☠️

[@wolfalaska7638]

Student loans are used to provide a multi year lifestyle for students. After graduation, a former student is faced with paying the bill including all those restaurant meals, trips to Florida, gifts, gas for their car, entertainment, drinking in pubs, and "walking around money". Taxpayers owe these people no bailout.

[@sammyelliott5554]

I never fit in the established education pressure after high school. Didn’t do well enough on the SAT to enter college so I went to technical school and took drafting. Was hired by the largest aluminum extrusion company in the USA. Worked there 2 years and hated it. Started a turn-key business at a large apartment complex. Self taught myself painting,drywall repair, trim, plumbing, appliance repair. This was way before KZbin. Also worked for contractors who built spec homes. Painted, wallpaper,construction clean-up for 20 years. The last 20 years of my working life I was employed as a PM at a restoration company. After retirement previous customers called and I started a handyman service at 64 years old. I’m 69 years old and in great shape, no meds, home paid for, car paid for, play golf once a week. All I can say is that the service industry should not be over looked as a means of income and I mean excellent income.

[@tomf429]

At 16, I got a part-time job selling shoes on commission. I wore a suit and tie because it was required in those days. I was paid minimum wage against 10% of what I sold. I did that all through college. With a little hustle, I would make 2 or 3 times minimum wage per hour - good money. I finished college and got a start selling office equipment. Over time, and with success, I eventually moved into multi-million $ capital equipment sales and sales management for international companies, mostly German. When asked where I learned my stuff, I always said, I sold shoes on commission from age 16-23 while I was wasting my time getting a college degree in Business Administration. My track record was my ticket to prosperity, not my sheepskin.

[@StevenGianatasio]

My father told me that the Second Highest Paid Profession is a Good Professional Salesman. Not easy but with focus and hard work it can be achieved.

[@guywhite1004]

I earned a Mechanical Engineering degree from Georgia Tech back in 1973. While we had a lot of courses in various engineering disciplines they all revolved around cause and effect. I used my degree in the industrial maintenance field to improve machine operating life and reliability, both by applying good design and even more critically by training people who run, maintain, and repair the equipment. I did not sit at a desk, unless I was developing training and maintenance programs, but was with the mechanics and electricians as they did their jobs. I could then develop, with their input, better maintenance and repair techniques. My boss told me my job was to save at least five times my salary by improving operating reliability and productivity. This turned out to be a rewarding career that spanned over 43 years.

[@markbryant4641]

That's a fantastic job/career for a mechanical engineer. What did the company produce, guy?

[@MrElapid]

Sounds like time well spent!

[@19Borneo67]

Here's a participation trophy for you. LOL.

[@TradeUnafraid]

I got an Electrical Engineering degree from Georgia Tech back in 1983. We're time-space continuum neighbors. (That is bona fide Georgia Tech humor.) (How about that drown-proofing class? Wasn't that great?! I was sorry to hear it's no longer a requirement, but that's the way the world is today.)

[@jennifer-fk3eh]

A mechanical engineer. That's the same degree Bill Nye the "Science Guy" has.

[@sveronih5376]

Victor David Hanson is a great American! We appreciate what he does!

[@joeedge576]

Victor David Hanson thinks every white American should life on a subsistence level farm, and own a couple of black slaves.... NOT exactly 21st Century modern thinking.... !!!

[@docdurdin]

Thank God, we have a Victor Davis Hanson. We need to hear the truth as we are being stripped of our identity, as a people, and as a Nation.

[@theresaowen2708]

I have 2 blonde blue-eyed grown sons. One went to college in Ireland for a BS in computers and an MS in AI. His school reminds me so much of Stanford, where I spent a summer in the early 80s. He has a quarter million in student loans. Fortunately, he can write very well and became a manager in a larger firm. My other son joined the army, then became a cop. No debt, bought a small farm with a home, has 3 kids and is very successful. I was a teacher. Schools push 4 year colleges because it improves their stats. Kindergartens make kids SWEAR to go to a chosen college at 5 years old! I had no idea my credentials would be useless in another state. I was forced to repeat my masters in education. It's one of the many big scams going on in America.

[@RPWay]

How does them being blond and blue factor into this?

[@RobertPutnam-s9n]

"Schools push 4 year colleges because it improves their stats...It's one of the many big scams going on in America." You got that right! There is other factors too. Like the Universities having lobbyist and hiring politicians or putting them on committees...

[@theresaowen2708]

@RPWay college entrance discrimination against students of European or Asian descent. Their Eurasian cousins only claimed the 1/16th Hispanic blood and nothing else so they could get in.

[@holymoly271]

White Discrimination ​@@RPWay

[@mitchellfamily1983]

My son went to a private university, graduated 3.998 GPA in Neuroscience, top 98 percentile on MCAT, served a humanitarian mission, Eagle Scout...blonde hair, blue eyes...accepted to only two medical schools... this is what white discrimination looks like.

[@4evaavfc]

Fully agree. Too many people have massive student loans but lack the income to pay them back. No kids, no home, no car, no dog.

[@lindatrockel7933]

how abour a cat

[@nibiay3985]

@@lindatrockel7933 what do they do for sex?

[@pattydriver9562]

If you’re looking for a real education Hillsdale College is the only school to look at. Graduated in 1974! So proud to be an alum! As a high school teacher I encouraged my students to go to trade school because not everyone needs a 4 year school. We need trade skilled people and the trades make a very good living and many degreed people are in debt with a job not related to their degree! What a waste of time and money!

[@L.Fontein7]

A very close friend of mine is a Hillsdale alum - and yes, it is an excellent school.

[@imabeardsley9280]

The lies that we were fed in our school years, the lies that we were taught to believe. It makes me sick.

[@impeached]

in politics, medicine, religion. what else is there?

[@boomersD9CAT]

In 1980 ( my sophomore year) My HS Guidance Counselor told me bluntly that I wasn’t College material. He advised me to apply for a work study program which allowed me to leave school at noontime to work for a construction company. I stayed employed by that specialty construction company from the age of 16 to 60 years old. I bought the business with a co-worker in 1994, and we expanded into pipeline replacement/installation, concrete construction ect…I started to see changes in the new hires in the early to mid 2000’s. Some employees refused to work on concrete work or quit after we’d send them on a concrete pour. We scaled back on Saturday work (time and half or double the hourly rate for skilled laborers who worked on Saturdays) The last ten years have been extremely difficult hiring truck drivers and equipment operators. The legalization of Marijuana hasn’t helped things because THC in a drivers system (Class A-B) means a failed drug test, and a suspension of your CDL license.

[@melindalemmon2149]

And reckless driving

[@soonerdave01]

I had this very conversation with an airport shuttle manager on the way to the airport. She asked me if I'd like to apply once I got back because of the marijuana issue. 😬😬😂😂

[@areynoso5660]

May I ask you what area your business is in? I’m in Alaska, Anchorage.

[@boomersD9CAT]

@@areynoso5660 I’m based out of the New England area (20 minutes outside of Boston) We work in Ma., RI, NH, and Maine.

[@noeldeal8087]

What a gift your guidance counselor gave you. I found school depressed me!

[@jamricsloe]

Equity is the death of excellence.

[@19Borneo67]

Equitable means the person who produces the most gets paid the most. You're using the new woke definition which means the opposite. That's part of the problem.

[@judyw4701]

You are 100% right. Equity doesn't encourage excellence. It gives additional merit to those who are considered at a "disadvantage". Equality provides the same beginning opportunity to all, but will recognize those who excel.

[@lincoln3307]

Graduated from an inner-city Nashville school with a 4.112 GPA and a 30 ACT back in 1984. Was lucky enough to get an academic scholarship to Tennessee Tech for engineering. I realized the first day of Calculus class that I was not prepared as my instructor flipped to ch 3 because we "all had the 1st 2 chapters in HS". W 8:55 Well, I didn't. I struggled to keep up and, on the W date, everyone below my grade in class dropped and now my C was bell curved down. Had to retake the class and that made realize that my A average in HS was definitely not the same as an A at better schools. Most kids today are given grades to push them through and aren't remotely prepared for college.

[@Mtzronn]

I am 55, did not go to college from high school, I learned auto body and painting, while playing guitar in a rock band. I ended up starting a taxicab/van transportation company in my early 20s. I did the painting and repairs on our vehicles, in addition to managing the business. I later learned graphic design, then got a 2 year degree in drafting/AutoCAD. Today I have a custom cycling apparel business, a live sound/audio engineering business, and teach music at a private high school. I have tools that can fix tools, and a lot of marketable skills that very few college graduates will ever have. I can build things, fix things, and I am a solid teacher.

[@daxtonbrown]

I went to Stanford in 71. I crawled over glass to get in as lower middle class. High SAT, music, clubs, did volunteer work in Honduras. I've learned the most useful things at community college and youtube welding courses

[@timmcquerry6068]

That,Sir is a Stirring Testimonial !😊😊

[@jcee2259]

I also was at Stanford that same year. 150 mile daily travel just to be paid for nightly vehicle travel about a resident housing area, Found what would later be known as an IED. It took higher education to go there, I was told.

[@andrewstewart9263]

The movie 'idiocracy' was a documentary not for entertainment.

[@TheBelrick]

When standford forces themselves to only allow in 20% whites, they really mean 10% whites and 10% latinos.

[@tjhessmon4327]

It was a documentary of the future of a nation run by Hegelian dialectic based DEI..... aka America...

[@andrewstewart9263]

@@tjhessmon4327 aka the whole of the western world.

[@TheBelrick]

@@soundbonz Americans have begun to be aware that they are disappearing off of the streets, cinema, history books etc. They assume that there is still 200 million of them. Not true 40% of Gen X american women never had children. The number of those who are pure blooded is 10% In a few years Americans will be measured in a few tens of million. We are all in terrible trouble.

[@michaeltowers964]

It’s a business, not about education anymore!

[@MarMarSing]

I agree. About 10 years ago, I was thinking about going back to finish getting my bachelor's degree. I applied to a private liberal arts college and the person who called me was a salesperson. Not a guidance counselor, a salesperson. I had a bad feeling about it but signed up anyway. They required that every new student take what amounted to an orientation class that cost around $1000! Such a scam!

[@ljprep6250]

Business or IDEOLOGY?

[@Towerspix]

@@ljprep6250Both.

[@andrewwood6285]

@@ljprep6250as a business it’s a scam, just like the Marxism they indoctrinate with.

[@t.daniel5003]

An education you pay for. Knowledge and wisdom you pray for.

[@elonever.2.071]

How about knowledge and wisdom you work for.

[@AFAskygoddess]

I was a flight attendant for a US airline for over 35 years. I went to paid training for three weeks when I was hired. When I retired, I was making about $100K a year. My paid personal time + vacation time was 2 months each year. Now, I have a mortgage free home on the Florida intracoastal and a monthly pension check plus social security. I never had student debt and traveled the world, staying in company paid hotels. There are options without college.

[@zubrickadvisors6742]

Congratulations on your retirement! So many opportunities for young folks with initiative, but they just don't seem to understand that, maybe because they have been told all these lies. The ones who do get it, though, will rule the roost. Think of all you got to see and experience. Wonderful.

[@noeldeal8087]

Who partied like it was 1999? 😎

[@19Borneo67]

I like the stewardesses in Argentina, all young and attractive. No 35 year stewardesses down there!

[@AFAskygoddess]

@19Borneo67 , when the engine explodes and you have an emergency landing or suffer a heart attack inflight, good luck with your plane full of young, attractive, and inexperienced "stewardesses" , instead of a senior crew who has spent 20-40 years training for these emergencies. You're going to need it.

[@impeached]

@@AFAskygoddess as I am approaching 62 years of age, I think every day of my best girlfriend after highschool, wanted me to join the flight attendant class in FL for 3 weeks or a month. We were both very attractive young adults. I elected to bypass that thought of being a "waitress in the sky" I told her, mainly because I was in love and wanted to see this guy in my life as he was and still is the love of my life. too bad we both married other people and my friend is retired and living in FL. Sure wish I would have gone that route. Much Much regret.

[@mlbreel]

Never ever borrow money to pay for education. Actually, never borrow money to buy anything!

[@spindriftdrinker]

House mortgage is not a horrible idea in all cases.

[@darko714]

In a high-inflation environment, carrying debt is smart. You can pay it back in tomorrow's tiny dollars.

[@ted.angell7609]

I just borrowed money to buy lunch. I’ll pay it off without interest in a few weeks.

[@areynoso5660]

I borrowed $37,000 from Ford to buy a new 2020 Explorer with 0% interest and $5000 cash back. Yes, zero interest AND $5000 back! Do you agree it’s a good reason to borrow for this purchase?

[@noeldeal8087]

@@areynoso5660 IMHO, no. There is no such thing as cash back. The vehicle is probably not worth more than 32,000 and then you have no incentive to bargain for the best deal thinking you already got one. Cars lose value as soon as you drive them off the lot. If it makes you happy, great. That is the ultimate value.

[@SauronOfMiddleEarth]

Currently on track to be an RN. Always an in demand job but if politicians don’t shape up, there will be a shortage. Firing RNs who refused the jab was the dumbest thing to do during a global pandemic that they supposedly were worried about.

[@derkong7114]

I was an RN for five years... Left the job, and started cleaning houses... Made a ton more money and it was so much better.... Hospital admins look at nursing as one thing, a liability to their profit. Biggest expense a hospital has is their RN's and its the first place they look to cut when times are tough and you work your rear off.... NO thanks....

[@joycewright5386]

I was a nurse for 40 years and now happily retired. Yes it’s hard work but you will never be unemployed. You can work any day of the week, any hour of the day, in any state. It may not always be the job you want but you will always have a paycheck. I loved my career choice. Good luck.

[@derkong7114]

@@joycewright5386 Its a job for many...

[@holymoly271]

They did a lot of dumb things, didn't they? Some say it was by design. To date, we have 20 million excess deaths and cancers through the roof. Lack of viable fetuses has declined. Were in trouble 😢

[@gregneuhaus9114]

nurses are earth angels. God Bless you

[@V13-u1c]

Yep. It happened to me. I'm still paying off my loan at age 68. (I went to college 20 years ago.) I never could land a career that paid more than 35K a year and I graduated with a 3.8 GPA. I already had a mortgage when I attended college so after bills were paid there really wasn't much left over to make a hefty payment on my student loan. Now I'm on SSI which has dropped my income down a third of what I made in the workforce. My loans won't be paid before I die. The stress of having that on my back along with making a measley salary was nothing more than a collosal mistake. I let them take advantage of me with student loans during a very difficult time in my life. Divorce, menopause, and physical health issues. I know I'm not the only one who is still struggling with student loans and the hell hole they put me in. It's quite nasty what they do to the younger ones. Promises, a smile, and an axe behind their backs.

[@GnomeInPlaid]

And they changed the law a long time ago that you can't discharge a student loan in bankruptcy and it also can be deducted from your Social Security so any parent or grandparent that co-signed a loan will have payments deducted from their Social Security until it's paid off.

[@spirg]

kudos to the young generation doing great things , but as a 58 year old man, i seriously cannot believe how they struggle with the SIMPLEST things... its unreal

[@uf1978]

I'm 59 and in manufacturing, believe it. Most youngsters have little to no common since.

[@siemprechingando1]

I agree... when the uni i worked for finally reopened after shutdown I literally had to teach students how to "make a water bath" for their first experiment. It means boil water! I ended up having to make a how to video for everything including how to connect the power cord to a hot plate..😂 because reading and following the instructions was "too confusing"

[@painted_desert]

LOL ​@@Slug002 🤡

[@shortboss356]

I truly understand what you are saying. Please hold my hand I can't do anything. ​@@siemprechingando1

[@1214gooner]

@@uf1978But can they spell?😂

[@joycewright5386]

It’s not just the universities. Go all the way back to grammar school. Last night I was registering 12 year olds and older for VBS at church. A 12 year old can’t spell baptist church!!! Most of them can barely write their address. This is very frightening.

[@noeldeal8087]

This is very worrying... and I was raised Catholic went to VBS and loved it and became one of Jehovah's Witnesses at 20... lol. We've been encouraging our young people to pass on collage for decades. My youngest was valedictorian of her class and passed on college. No regrets! 🤗

[@noeldeal8087]

VBS=Vacation Bible School

[@denniscleveland669]

It’s all about the money, not the education! The lenders and the faculty are getting rich, not the students. I guess I’ve misspoken, when I said faculty, when I should have said those that run/own the colleges. I don’t know what to call them.

[@RobertodelaVega-t3w]

Educational Ponzi scheme... College Degrees in America are Highly overrated... they are nothing more than expensive, framed Toilet paper.

[@jeannemara1600]

Faculty don't get rich, except the president of a university.

[@donaldhill854]

Much of the faculty underpaid. My soninlaw at 70k professing for 20 yrs

[@rabidcougar6465]

Nephew's son, who has ADHD and struggled in high school, was definitely not a candidate for college. Fortunately for him, in his last two years in high school, they offered an after school welding training program. After graduation, he enrolled in the Hobart Institute of Welding Technology, in Ohio in 2021. It was a 9 month program that cost him $35,000. Following graduation, he was flooded with job offers and is now making $85K per year and has paid off his loan.

[@jackiewalker7105]

It's not ALMOST criminal, it IS criminal!! I have a BAAS, an AS, and two certificates, and graduated summa cum laude at the ripe old age of 44, having stopped to raise two children before returning to college. The step down in college education from 1979 to 2000 was quite appalling to me. But at least in Texas the teachers cared about seeing their students LEARN. After getting my degree (most classes were taken at a community college, senior year, I transferred to Tarleton University), I finished raising my children by homeschooling them because the public school system has gone to pot. My sons got a good education because I dropped everything and gave them one. I also figured out the main reason schools were dropping the teaching of cursive writing. It's not because they have so many other things to teach, like some have claimed. It's because primary sources (letters, founding documents, etc.) are written in cursive. If current or coming generations cannot read/write cursive, then they can't check the typewritten versions for accuracy. Then, the typewritten versions can say whatever the current narrative wants them to say, and no one will know any better. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge!" Hosea 4:6

[@REDOS1988]

OH MY GOSH!! I have been saying the same exact thing regarding the removal of cursive writing classes. I began homeschooling my child last year ( 4th grade) and I immediately began to teach him how to read and write cursive. It is so important! ❤

[@jupiter.6268]

I totally agree, I asked my Great-granddaughter to sign her name as on a Document..she was 10 yrs old. That's when I found out they don't teach that anymore. What the hell ? So I taught her to do it. It was like she was in a new world. I told her remember not everything is in print form. She loves how to connect letters together to form a word. Fascinating!

[@joycewright5386]

@@jupiter.6268Do you mean they are not even teaching children how to sign their names?

[@ElizabethHaley-i7g]

@@joycewright5386 correct Which means no unique, legal signature.

[@jupiter.6268]

@@joycewright5386 Nope that's what I understand.

[@silverman5707]

Asking a kid at 16-17 years old to make a career decision seems like a tall order, but that’s the way the school system is designed.

[@OutWestRedDirt]

You use to get a job and if you flourished, then you got a degree to go with promotions. Ridiculous how minors with no experience are suppose to know what to focus on and go in massive debt for a great unknown.

[@joycewright5386]

I knew at age 14 I would be a nurse. Trained at a hospital school ( which no longer exist) for 3 years. Now happily retired and debt free.

[@tjhessmon4327]

Most people entering adulthood have no clue what they want to do. America should take their lead from the State of Israel, and have all high school graduates perform military service for 2 years. This type of program, better prepares people to enter the world as responsible, reasonable adults. Further, they will learn what they themselves are capable of.

[@chadchadchadchadchad]

@@tjhessmon4327 Agreed, except for the fact that there would be a REALLY high probability that those kids would be forced to go to a ridiculous war during those two tears. If we weren't constantly getting into wars that we shouldn't be in, two years in the military would be great for all people.

[@Jasmin.M-hz5ty]

My nephew is 15 years old,and he wants to be electrician.But he dosen't know,that most electricians don't live or work in his beloved Croatia,instead they all move to Germany.And here to be electrician,is just a hobby,or a handy skill,but not real career.

[@visualverbs]

I dropped out of "j-school" in 1977 because it was a left-wing-nonsense waste of money THEN. I can only imagine now. I ended up getting an AS in Machine Shop technology, and working at a REAL job for 36 years, and retired early with enough to live comfortably for the rest of my life without having to work.

[@TheBelrick]

Once you understand that Corporations are the Government. That Colleges are no different from any other Corporations like McDonalds. Now you understand that the lie of everyone needs a College Education is no different than McDonald's personal politicians that everyone needs to eat BigMacs. (you wouldn't deny a child food would you?). Thanks to this lobbying, our taxes are taken from us to force sell us Diploma's and in the future, BigMacs

[@parajerry]

This is what the smart kids are doing today. Find a skill that will never be replaced by AI, like plumbing, auto repair, HVAC, etc.... No robot in our lifetime is going to be able to do this work, and people are becoming les and less able to do these things themselves because they are trading for hours on social media instead of gaining real skills. Trade schools or apprenticeships (or internships) are far more efficient learning environments than a 4-year degree. They also lead to real experience in the field, unlike a 4-year University.

[@alexi.de.charle]

😂 “without having to work”? you worked for 36 years! To enjoy your ‘freedom’ in an old, used body… congrats! 🎉

[@alexi.de.charle]

@@parajerryupcoming AI engineering will replace old technology to eliminate the need for those jobs 😂

[@parajerry]

@@alexi.de.charle never happen. Not in our lifetimes. Keep dreaming though. AI is going to replace office jobs, design jobs, data jobs, and some logistics jobs. Truck drivers probably have 20 more years. Electricians, plumbers, etc….require people with their hands on the hardware installing, repairing, replacing. No AI will be able to do that for many many years.

[@thomasf-y5w]

At age 11 I cut grass then learned to paint cottages then learned to repair antique boats and finish them. Learned how to cook in grade 9-12 went into the culinary industry it died out so I learned to weld and machine in the mines it died out went back to painting inside and outside made a great company of students helping me grow all over as a pass on the business to next generations. Sold and built my home got married had 3 kids while cooking again until that died again. Built garbage trucks until moving into fine art welding then at 43 I retired and painted as it was my Love forever to change people's worlds. Grade 9 education all I have and always got a job because of my exp. working and my eager interest and passion. At 65 Im still retired and learning the internet so Life never stops for me. Look forward and try to learn every day don't give up just change your direction. Life is great have faith~

[@JohntheNobleSavage]

Just as Victor knows I'm still relatively bright but a thousand years ago I came within one point of maxing the L.S.A.T. test. I applied to a well known law school and got a one line rejection. The fact that I was from a deep South state, white, and both knew and had worked for a very well known infamous governor was all that it took. One line. It hurt then, it hurts now. I later learned that students who had made over two hundred points lower that I were accepted. Care to guess what color they were? In fact a couple of years ago a law school professor was fired because the professor dared to point out that the students on the bottom of every test were the affirmative action students. At least at Hillsdale College of which I have been a long time computer student gives a straight up education (of some of my favorite courses are taught by Victor i.e. World War II and the ancient Greeks = flat up outstanding) so if you want to learn google Hillsdale but I give you fair warning they are Christians which I don't find offensive since I am one myself but if you judge your education by the Woke Dopes who teach the course then you will be disappointed.

[@allen35315]

Sad story - Top notch athletes/scholars were barred by law from participating in anything that created an inter racial environment. Address this with your forefathers.....

[@festivetosho7376]

LSAT scores only go up to 180

[@buzzsawkhan]

​@allen35315 When you say "address this with your forefathers" are you implying that the sins of the father ought to be visited on the sons? As an aside, who do you imagine his forefathers are? Woodrow WIlson, FDR, LBJ? From his description, it sounds like he's been opposed to the segregationists his whole life.

[@pamvancleave6722]

I love Hillsdale College

[@HighCountryRambler]

Sounds like YOU were suckered into false hope. I went to a Tech school and just retired from a long Software Engineering carrier. I just can't understand why anyone would even consider any of the Indoctrination camps like Harvard or Yale or any of them?

[@kencole781]

First they dumb them down when they were in grade school and middle school!!!😮

Those grades are now used to DEEPLY indoctrinate students to elevate all students "of color", while denigrating the white kids. The typical curriculum is far more about "acceptance, equality, & diversity" and their version of "sexuality"; i.e., schools trying to replace parents in teaching interpersonal skills, morality and everything associated with navigating the current world. That's why they aren't teaching real subjects, like math, biology, etc; also because most of their students cannot grasp or pass those subjects very well.

[@TheBelrick]

In NZ almost all kids now can barely read, write and do basic maths by the time they leave primary school. But at least they are diverse and passed school and were never disciplined.

[@jupiter.6268]

​@@TheBelrickridiculous, seriously!

[@jonathanleach1050]

I've been blessed. I made a 40-year career in the area for which I academically trained. But if I were raising sons today, my counsel would be to learn a manual trade. Useful skills! Make yourself indispensable to others! THAT's the key to a bright, lucrative, fully-employed future!

[@robertovermier6200]

If there was ever a person I'd like to see cloned a thousand times, it is Victor Davis Hanson. Everything I have ever heard coming out of his month is so relevant and makes so much sense.

[@momma370]

I love all the success stories and accomplishments of so many people that didn't go to college. I applaud you all. I'm in the same category. Learned a trade and raised my four babies on my own (due to being a bad judge of character🙄). I was a heavy equipment operator just shy of 30 years. 65years old retired mom, grandma & great grandma. Have a blessed life with a small mortgage on my mountain property. I actually didn't finish high school but got my GED later down the road when I had time 🤷‍♀️.

[@kathym9322]

Love this!!

[@marlitstansell700]

Your investment in your family is far more valuable than any other system of education! I applauded you!!

[@smujer1]

All these students living at home with Mommy and Daddy, can't find jobs, have huge debt, and have been indoctrinated by the schools. I shudder for our future.

[@seant1821]

Im so happy I went thru college before this time. Before the social media and dating apps garbage ruined peoples lives. We had a golden era and I'll forever be thankful

[@swagstab]

And youre the ones that put them in that situation 😬

[@Devdevbruh]

There's nothing wrong with living with your parents.

[@christinegeary4877]

It has been by design. It IS criminal. Immoral. Unethical.

[@unbreakable7633]

@@swagstab How? Not really that simple. Some parents fail, yes, but not all. My father made it damned clear that making a living was an essential purpose of getting an education. He did not coddle me or my brothers and sisters. He was a hard man.

[@privatepilot4064]

Jeremiah 33:3 “Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.” Matthew 15:8 “This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.” Psalms 9:17 “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.” And Americans still wonder what’s happening to their country. Absolutely amazing.

[@scottmarino3197]

The Word of God is Alive, and these have significance.

[@ginasellery1499]

Incredible scriptures. So true.

[@Earth2Flo-v6f]

Very well quoted❤

[@cliffsteele7696]

Victor Davis is so smart. I can listen to him all day long. He has such a great common sense that this country could really use right now. I wish I knew where he was to go visit him.

[@marci3667]

My grandson wasn’t interested in college so followed in the path of his father and grandfather and became a firefighter ,paramedic! Great pension when he retires! Grandfather retired and has since passed away but father retired last year ! His grandfather would be so proud to know his grandson followed in his footsteps,a job he loved and felt so rewarding!

[@PO-vx2pq]

👏👏👏

[@MrJugThumper]

Thank you for giving me some talking points in my letter to the president of U/Mich. My family are donors, and we are fed up. The motto of my ELEMENTARY school was, “We build the ladder we climb”. Getting rid of meritocracy is just the opposite of that wonderful motto.

[@grrrrrlonfirew]

Stop being a donor!

[@wardropper]

We’re beyond the “please listen” stage. Something has to stop this.

[@WhiteyTheIronMonger]

I took a flight a few days ago and brought the book "Mexifornia" by Victor Davis-Hanson to read. It was a great read and I will read more of his work. While reading, the flight attendants announced the possibility of "Rough air" as opposed to "Turbulence" Why? too many syllables for the recent grads? Mr. Hanson is a gifted thoughtful person and I respect him greatly.

[@reneenewfrock5743]

I'm raising my grandchildren. I homeschool them and they will not be going to any college. Period. The indoctrination is unforgivable.

[@judymoore5009]

God bless you for loving your grandchildren so much! What a huge sacrifice! I pray that God will give you strength and resources to finish strong.

[@stuartnochance]

You probably just traded an indoctrination you disagree with for one you agree with.

[@loristoneking5711]

I hope you don't think all higher or collegiate learning beyond high school is about indoctrination. It's not .sometimes you need to learn beyond the high school level. It shouldn't be all or nothing..hiw about a good junior college?

[@Mark-pp7jy]

...but YOUR "Indoctrination" is ok. If all we look at is the negative, that's all we're ever going to see!

[@RogerOuellette-br4lo]

Spot On! At 77 years old my motivation comes from my DD-214 with 4 years in the Marines and a tour in Vietnam. This is primarily used in my own Health & Healing. Dosen't come from Primary Care Physicians as they are no longer the most qualified to keep us 'Healthy". But I could go on and on and on.

[@user-ig7nq7pc7k]

"We don't have to be perfect to be good." Put chills up my spine. TRUTH. Major truth.

[@ExhaultedPoobah]

"Better Is the Enemy of Good Enough" - Russian proverb

[@timmcquerry6068]

How about "Don't let the Good be the enemy of the Best "😊

[@user-ig7nq7pc7k]

@@soundbonz I didn't claim anything of the sort. Your snobbishness is disgusting. I went to college. Just because someone goes to college does not mean they know all knowledge; what an insipid intimation. Crawl back under your diploma where you belong.

[@philmarasco32]

Victor Davis Hanson is one of the Smartest People I've ever listened to. He Explains Complicated things Simply. That is a Gift!

[@turninmonyin2noise978]

I’ve been saying for decades that if a college or university can pay a football coach, a million bucks to coach a game that 10 year old play, then not one student should leave with any student debt. Higher education is about making money for the administrators and truthfully, nothing more. History proves it so.

[@dojocho1894]

My wife got scholarship to Columbia she is from Eastern europe..... Bio Organic chem...She couldn't believe none of the class could do math without computer..she did it on paper and pencil they were amazed.

[@pappychksix9294]

Do you want a great president for this country. Then this should be your man. Victor Davis Hanson...an American visionary!!!

[@ted.angell7609]

Sowell/Hanson 2028 💪

[@arthurdiaz9184]

Yeah right. From one outdated old man to another.😂

[@arthurdiaz9184]

@@soundbonz what’s that, please explain. I’m ready to learn something new.

[@arthurdiaz9184]

@@pappychksix9294 visionary! Yeah right, study hard in your civics class. We the people of the U.S. in order to form a more perfect union. Must study and know the truth. The whole truth not a biased version. Thomas Jefferson who wrote the Constitution. “Every man is created equal we hold these truths to be self evident.” He owned 600 slaves and had six children from his female slaves who were all born into slavery.

[@Blt-rr2lm]

It’s come to light that smart doesn’t need a post secondary education to be extremely successful. Knowledge is easy to acquire. Ingenuity is what we need, and universities don’t facilitate that.

[@richardhemenway7528]

And how many students that graduate don't have a job in their field to go to.

This will be the case with increasing momentum, as AI takes over & NWO et al do likewise.

[@Moondoggy1941]

It used to be starving students, I remember hearing about a student that basically ate rice everyday, after college he will never eat it again. Now they use their student loans for car purchases, rent, eating out 3 times a day, partying and oh yeah a degree in pet sitting.

[@Di-Pi]

🤣

[@matthewronsson]

every day. My 6th grade teacher told us a tale where he and his dorm roommates scrounged some coins to buy some flour, then set traps for Pigeons so they could make Pigeon Pie to eat because they were all so broke.

[@Moondoggy1941]

@@matthewronsson The old adage holds true, No such thing as a free lunch. Maybe those kids should have been taught that.

[@marcielston3019]

A young person I know moved back home after her freshman year because the partying was out of control in her apartment complex. all purchased on loans.

[@knitwit014]

​@@marcielston3019They don't teach anything about personal finance and these kids get these loans and are so irresponsible.

[@CaneCorsoZ]

It all started when everyone got a participation trophy

[@kimberlynnearazi9381]

The BEST UNDERRATED comment 💯

[@cheryljackson8223]

That's what I think

[@dks13827]

Yes,,,,,,,,,,,,and Rush Limbaugh said so At The Time.

[@Standinginhisloveandhislight]

It all started when we took God out of everything and let the evil one in.

[@Dan-440]

You misspelled affirmative action.

[@chardijensen690]

Ive been in construction since 1998 and every company I have worked for the owner was self taught, started out doing small jobs themself and growing the business in to a multi million dollar company. Name one politicians who has any knowledge of this.

[@thomasjamesdyejr1814]

"Sometimes good enough is good enough".....words of wisdom from a US Navy 4 star admiral....he was right.

[@rubyxfinity8634]

Our company does not even consider degrees any more. EXPERIENCE has shown us that they are UTTERLY USELESS.

[@mikeshepard3827]

Always enjoy MR. Hanson. Very smart common sense approach to the problems of our country. We need people like him leading our courntry and thinking.

[@IVANHOECHAPUT]

I wanted to be a neurosurgeon in high school. My father transferred to a rural area where the high school had no one to teach Latin, chemistry, calcusus, etc., but they told me they would give me biology 2 over again and give me redit for it. What frustrated me more was that after going to 9 differrent high schools, I had taken California history in order to graduate, I had taken Ohio history in order to graduate, I had taken Arizona history in order to graduare and now I had to sit with 9th graders and take Mississippi history in order to graduare? I quit high school and went to work with a manufacturer that made farming equipment. I eventually worked my way into the engineering department. Read everything I could about engineering, materials, the structure of business. I worked as an engineer until I was 35. Started my own business. Was very successful. Retired with assets that return an income that is in the top 1% of earners in the US. If one wants to succeed, it is in your genetics, not in your education! A dumb-ass will always be a dumb-ass no matter how much education he's acquired. I've fired Phd's because of lack of common sense!

[@publicxxer5379]

Lol! I'm 73. Worked for Bell Telephone for 30 years after 4 years Navy as a helicopter mech. You are so right. In both lines of work there were just damn dummies. The Bell job the dummies cried to the union. In the Navy they were the floor mopping dopes. You can't fix stupid. It's in 'em. Like an internal organ.

[@marynadononeill]

Universities are not accountable. DO SOMETHING!!

[@georgewagner7787]

Congress is failing the students. They could stop lending and make laws limiting the interest

[@michaelhalbert-q2f]

After 12 years of "education" we cannot trust people to understand what they are purchasing, or how much it will cost? In 5th grade I took "consumer math". It did the trick.

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

Exactly!!!

[@emmabovary1228]

Professor Hanson, thank you. Please don’t stop with your message. They are hurting kids in so many ways. This is one of the most devastating.

[@lloydcook9878]

I have one grandson who joined the Army after high school, was trained as a heavy road equipment operator. After 4 years service he has a journeyman card. No college debt. Another grandson went to a trade school for diesel mechanics, metal fabrication, and advanced specialized welding. Both grandson will be making over $40 per hour.

[@jcee2259]

True. Met my fair share in the Public Sector. Are retired but their vehicle horns let me know we did share better days and people.

[@ginnidiaz861]

I worked at Sanford for 14 years, ending in 2020, and was shocked at how dysfunctional some of the profs were. Several were tenured but were horrible people, which gave them a guaranteed position regardless of their performance or how they treated people, not just students. Some Asst and Asso profs were useless as well as clueless. Postdoc, some amazing, some a waste of time. A few committed s...side. This was the school of Medicine! I left when the manipulation of HR process fight for research dollars became the obvious point of the department.

[@kathleankeesler1639]

Thank you for sharing your experience

[@mccajo1]

Two or three generations ago, having a college degree was a status symbol for the student and for the student's parents. The diploma was the main goal, not any particular knowledge or skills learned during college. Eventually, going to college got to be so routine that it became an extension of high school: the 13th, 14th 15th and 16th grades. So what next evolved was that a college degree was no longer a status symbol, but not having a degree was a stigma. But either way, many students are now enrolled in colleges for no legitimate purpose other than to get a diploma so they can say they have one, often spending several years taking college courses that amount to little more than a $100,000 hobby. Sure, I do have some degrees, but I don't think I'm a hypocrite: I required higher education to learn to become a medical specialist.

[@joegotz1971]

I recently sold my architecture firm to an employee. He has been with me for over 20 years. Right now we are doing very well. I will retire fairly soon. I have this conversation at least once a week with professionals my age. When the baby boomers finally all retire, there will be a wealth of knowledge gone not passed down. Currently the only resumes we get from college graduates are from India, not one recent graduate from a school of architecture in the United States. A freshman class has 100 students. Only 25 make it through graduation. Of that 25 less than half become registered architects. 12.5%!

[@anonygent]

Some additional bizarre facts about architecture school: admission is super-competitive, only about 20% of applicants are accepted, and architecture school apparently ruins the students' taste, they go in admiring the Colosseum and come out admiring Bauhaus.

[@wildemthefem5773]

My guy ignored his parents and left college almost two decades ago to stay in construction. He runs his own business and has real life skills. He makes more than me with my college education.