I Took an Econ Class and It Halved My IQ

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[@mr.badatgames7887]

Why did you like your own comment

[@joee-kp7qt]

No

[@illuminaticake4528]

How was this comment from 3 weeks ago

[@TheSpartan9003]

How is this so old

[@samuelyancey4605]

Bro missed an opportunity to say first 3 weeks before anyone else.

[@jackinzbox.]

I never understood the extent of Business majors idiocy until one day when I was in the library I watched 2 girls unironically sit and stare at a linear graph representing income for 45 minutes confused on how to find the rate at which the company was making money.

[@honkhonk8009]

Im a CS kid but took an econ class. I haven't read shit for supply/demand graphs and couldnt be bothered to figure out what they actually represent lmfao. I just memorized that if supply goes up, then the funny line goes one way instead of the other. Prolly my own incompetence but they way they word these econ textbooks genuinely gives me an aneursym. Its like they purposely try to make it as hard as possible to understand. Compared to a book on math proofs, math proofs are so much easier to understand cus they dont muddy the conversation with random bullshit lol

[@cumradej]

Funny as hell lmao

[@MinecraftPigSniper]

Yea as someone who graduated community college with a business admin degree and then a private college with a finance degree, the troglodytism is absurd in our field. People don’t understand the most basic concepts that are just fundamentally true like if you add 2 to a number it goes up by 2 and if you take x2 and subtract x1 and then divide by x1 you get growth rates. Legit knew people who couldn’t write a paragraph in even 60% readable English(as native speakers) about how advertising would increase potential customer base. These were all seniors in Finance.

[@aycoded7840]

@@MinecraftPigSniper " if you take x2 and subtract x1 and then divide by x1 you get growth rates"? What does the "x" mean.

[@cuad0130]

@@aycoded7840 I think they mean the percentage change in growth. e.g a company makes $10k in month 1, and $12k in month 2. So ($20k - $10k)/$10k = 0.2 so the growth rate from month 1 to month 2 is 20%

[@kagakai7729]

As an Econ student this actually puts 90% of economic research into context because it makes sense in a field where people are such glue eaters that the people who actually managed to learn math and statistics are willing to show that they can use it at all times

[@chesspiece4257]

as a sociology student this explains why sociologists often have to pick up behind economists forgetting that people aren’t just numbers

[@kagakai7729]

@@chesspiece4257 The last thing I wanted to endorse with my comment was even less math-savvy Economists, but here we are

[@josephburchanowski4636]

@@chesspiece4257 Do they cover the Replication Crisis at all in sociology class? I know that psychology, economics, and political science have started addressing their replication crisis; but I don't hear too much about sociology tackling it.

[@rickastley7522]

Econ is brain dead easy until your professor tells you to download R. That’s when you get your real stats focused shit (and programming)

[@kagakai7729]

@@josephburchanowski4636 Econ's replication crisis stems from the lack of historical economic data- GDP as an indicator isn't even a century old, so we've always had to make do with things like grain wages and baskets of goods that we inference were historically considered essentials. This is in essence a problem that will resolve itself, as time goes on and we have much more year on year financial data

[@EumenesOCardia]

Business Econ is not Econ. The problem wasn't that it was an econ class, the problem is it was a business class.

[@bennoarchimboldi6245]

Nope Econ is absolute crap too

[@buzzmast3r546]

@@hickoryst.6961 I can confirm economics jokes only go down well with other economists

[@martinfiedler4317]

@@hickoryst.6961 Not my experience (did the first 2 years of an Economics PhD, before I was fed up and left with only the Masters) Economists like to (ab)use math to show the world and themselves how clever they are. But generally they neither have a deeper understanding of the math they are using not or the real-life phenomena they describe with it. Next life, I'd rather learn plumbing than spend time on Economics. With plumbing, at least, you get actual sh*t done...

[@mmmar7317]

Yeah but let these labcoats keep their superiority.

[@Karl_der_Genosse]

Exactly. Macro is the only Econ that is repsectable and even that has some serious problems.

[@no-lifenoah7861]

Economics majors have some pretty specialized knowledge; they leave academia with some pretty big holes in things like geography, statistics, and economics

[@nemanjalazarevic9249]

One of those things happens to be their brain

[@mikelake1306]

Jargon. The specialized knowledge is jargon. I took a grad-level course straddling math and econ departments. We worked together on problem sets: the econ majors translated the questions into English, we solved them, and they would copy the answers. Real head-scratchers like "find the area of a triangle."

[@gabrielpena366]

Or biology.

[@GogiRegion]

@@mikelake1306I took two levels of economics, and literally both classes were 90% just finding the area of a triangle.

[@Gee-xb7rt]

You know that its not that uncommon for people like me to have degrees in at least two of those, I have degrees in geography and economics, economics from a social science program, not business. Econ-stats is offered as its own degree.

[@Name_23]

Data in a nutshell: “If it isn’t a line that follows the standard trend, then make it a line that follows the standard trend.”

[@nicholasgutin8577]

me when p val is .051

[@StrayChoom]

@@nicholasgutin8577that’s a bit high 💀

[@anarchosnowflakist786]

stalinsort but for data

[@nicholaslaun9372]

I took econ in HS, as an AP/Honors kid I had never seen so many absolute glue devourers in my life. Those mfs would get asked, "What is 10 million divided by 10?" and proceed to waste 90 seconds of everyone else's life just going "ummmm, ummm," and every time the TA tried to get one of them to do work, (because yes, they needed a TA,) they would scream in her face and have to go out into the hall as punishment.

[@emberthecatgirl8796]

Man, I so envy you guys who got to choose your classes in High School. I had the “profile” system, where I only got to choose the rough profile of my classes. Well, at least I didn’t choose Matex.

[@kekero540]

Bro it was me and my friends in geometry and everyone else I swore had a lead binky when they were an infant. Because the class average of 42 out of 26 people (5 of them my friends who all got 80s 90s) it was baffling. Same whenever I talked to most business majors.

[@Koyomix86]

Wow that’s very different from my hs Econ experience. I took AP Econ and it was actually a great class, there was a few idiots but a lot of people were smart and I had a great teacher who taught us a lot of valuable and interesting things.

[@ImDaRealBoi]

@@emberthecatgirl8796 ... The fuck is matex???

[@hassananwar9833]

Doing a level computer science gives the same vibes my guy, I've become the classes tech support atp

[@anonl5877]

As someone who currently does data science, I want to find the physicist who thinks "normalizing data" means deleting outliers, and send him to Data Science Gulag (programming in SAS on Windows 11)

[@warpig2148]

Yeah you have to remember that physics data come from experiments that can have flaws and human errors. Like maybe I diluted this thing one more time that I should 😅. And that's why sometimes when you see so fucking big error you can just say yeah someone fucked up this sample. Because you know other option is to full recreate experiment to obtain new set of data.

[@Eldriitch]

There's the data science gulag for bad analyses and bad interpretations of data, but just deleting data you don't like is deserving of actual academic fraud jail tbh.

[@lightworker2956]

Unfortunately, modern-day academia is "publish or perish." And also, finding results gets you published while "I did the experiment, nothing of note was discovered" doesn't. Combine these two and even people who know better can get pressured into just falsifying data.

[@scribblescrabble3185]

this, as a chemist

[@anonl5877]

@@warpig2148 that's cope. Unless you save the ID and diagnostics for each data point and can prove that the outlier is caused by known bugs or human error, you can't just assume it is bad data. The proper course of action would be to adjust your base model assumptions, or accept a lower r^2 value.

[@nicazer]

in the industry side of chemistry, we have a saying: "At least we arent academia". As an undergraduate I did research in a lab with a grad student who was working on a project in an area that had two or three published papers on the entire internet, and they were all from the same group who seemingly just made up numbers.

[@wind_doe]

Profile picture checks out.

[@nicazer]

@@wind_doe hehe. I set that in sixth grade when chemistry became my one personality trait. A friend’s mom is a chemist and she was working with vitamin B12 so thats what I made my newly acquired google account. Good times

[@GodplayGamerZulul]

@@nicazer based friend's mommy admirer

[@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756]

That's a big thing in getting phd's hire Indians to peer review for a couple hundred bucks

[@Zer0Blizzard]

Yurp, 50+% of academic studies just make shit up or P hack the everliving crap out of it. Source: basically nobody double checks most "scientific" papers, and peer "review" is mostly a joke because everyone is in on it. Source2: retractionwatch

[@254708cs]

as a former buiness major(left for a variaty of reasons) without watching the video I fully agree. Jesus christ yall got bent out of shape about this one. First off there was no grand point to my spelling it was just that I didn't care and my brain was on automatic. Second I made this comment within a few seconds of the video just to agree that "as a former business major" people are a bit on the dumb side. This is a youtube comment section for a creator who just vomits out his thoughts with poorly drawn images, it ain't that deep.

[@injeraenjoyer4570]

"variaty" yep, that's a fellow business major right there

[@daveogfans413]

@@injeraenjoyer4570 Funny that you've mastered criticism before punctuation. Next time use a dot and proper capitalization when making fun of some rando on KZbin.

[@Mango-vd1nn]

@@daveogfans413cool

[@injeraenjoyer4570]

@daveogfans413 the rejection of punctuation and capitalization in a casual setting is not only perfectly acceptable, but completely correct in its circumstance, business major. I'm right with you here in the dumb people boat. No infighting, only ribbing here

[@daveogfans413]

@@injeraenjoyer4570 Saying "rejection of punctuation" like you're making some kind of grand, insightful point about communication. There was a variaty of ways you could've said it without sounding cringe.

[@JordiR243]

6:54 to be fair, rounding up things correctly and reporting the right amount of significant figures is one of the first things they (normally) teach in statistics. I know because they insisted A LOT on this for us (It's a mandatory class for our physics course)

[@redopal9796]

exactly! to say that it is a common sense thing taught in middle school and show his error of not knowing the simple concept of rounding, a concept taught in 3rd grade, does have me raising an eyebrow

[@sepro5135]

@@redopal9796 you didn’t understand him. The … means the number is truncated not rounded. If you don’t have a … at the end you don’t round. Rounding before a … doesn’t make sense. That’s the idea, not that he doesn’t understand rounding.

[@Xdgvy]

​@sepro5135 Yes, but sig figs *enforce* a rounding rule; which both business and science courses require. As in, your data will be thrown out if you do not follow the rule. Basically, Euclidean math is severely flawed and causes some jobs to require set rounding rules. It's one of my major gripes with modern mathematics.

[@HunsterMonter]

​@@Xdgvy wtf is euclidian math? If you are talking about euclidian geometry, it has nothing to do with rounding

[@Xdgvy]

@@HunsterMonter Euclid's elements, specifically five and 7-10 (if my memory is correct), do deal with numbers; including prime, rational, and irrational. They are the basis for our system.

[@armelfrancois7009]

as much as econ may be generally less mathematically demanding than physics, it's rather worrying to know that some colleges teach at this level for their econ degrees. not quite sure what econ they went on to do afterwards (one can only hope it wasn't enough to get them into a decent grad school), but jeez is that terrifying

[@ScansGMS]

its a business econ track, the actual economics track (especially for people looking to go to grad school) usually uses a proof based approach to stats and econometrics

[@philippeturgeon6730]

@@ScansGMS Can confirm. I did my first year of bachelors in economics, while its maths was nowhere near the level I ended up doing when I went into physics it was definitely more rigorous than what is described here. Also you would never have points docked for a rounding choice.

[@ScansGMS]

@@philippeturgeon6730 right, and at a grad school level real analysis is now an unwritten prerequisite to entry. in fact, most of the people looking to go to grad school in economics at jeff’s uni usually take more math than that (theory of ordinary/partial differential equations, functional/complex analysis, measure theory, abstract algebra, etc.)

[@onelazynoob15]

Idk, eat glue and do insider trading? If the VC scene is any indicator

[@WinterAyars]

I think undergraduate economics is widely regarded as a joke and only really a prep session for graduate economics, which most of the economics majors don't do. My brother has a Master's in economics and that was the sense i got from what i saw, too.

[@m9tarnowski]

I once sniffed a glue stick as a joke in front of my friends and my maths teacher saw it and gave me a very weird look (this was in sixth form)

[@empyrea2642]

Normalize using the human senses!

[@SpahGaming]

i did this but more then once and then

[@Blade.5786]

You have a sixth form? And it's not even your final form?

[@marshallschaefer9632]

how many forms do you have

[@SpahGaming]

@@marshallschaefer9632 ingerland

[@natkin6595]

I took econ 100 to fulfill a general requirement at my school (with one of the top business schools in the country), and our professor gave us a question to justify whether the invisible hand works or not, specifically saying that either answer is correct if we justify it well. Every single person who said no got zero points.

[@birmax5420]

When your teacher is actually a 1800 scientist who invented time travel

[@alexritchie4586]

Econ classes don't teach economics; They teach the professor's political opinions.

[@jongxina3595]

I mean yeah why would you say "No"

[@vlc-cosplayer]

@@jongxina3595 if the hand is invisible, how can you tell if it's doing anything?

[@alkalize]

Yeah my econ professor would misrepresent real world events to fit his narrative. At least he wasn't like my other professors who gave a bad grade for disagreeing with them on topics like social security, medicare, minimum wage, etc. I did enjoy his class because he appreciated when students would disagree with him, and would fight against his views. Other than his misrepresentation of certain facts (which was probably not malice, just confirmation bias), he was actually one of my best professors.

[@bilbolaggins2431]

To be fair equating business Econ to real Econ is akin to a high schooler saying “math is easy” after enrolling in the special needs version of the class

[@redstoneactive6589]

the only hard part about econ is remembering formulas and jargon.

[@Zer0Blizzard]

Ask a macro econ professor to explain why the United States isn't a govt controlled economy, and use that as the litmus test for how drooling they are.

[@jacksonferguson2847]

@@Zer0Blizzard "government controlled economy"? What are you on my guy?

[@travislyonsgary]

​@@jacksonferguson2847 They are noting its not a command economy

[@user-ux8xl6qd1c]

⁠​⁠@@Zer0Blizzard probably because the U.S. isn’t communist and or doesn’t use a command economy cause they are the most infamously difficult part of establishing communism due to the fact the the amount of factors in a economy are almost boundless and individual economist no matter how intelligent wouldn’t be able to fulfill the wants and needs of every individual participating. This isn’t even a economics question it’s a political one like asking why didn’t the the Chinese nationalist just crush the communist during the long march. Their are to many factors such as the stock market existing the U.S. being founded with free market ideals and the Cold War causing the U.S. to double down on those ideals. Your question is 1 not their field 2 proposes a far fetched reality 3 is politically charged. If you asked me something like that I would look at you dumbfounded to due to the complete lack of relevancy.

[@chrisxd146]

I was 1 of 3 engineers in an operations management class (I was told it was a good way to learn how bid packages are priced out), which I took as a senior. It was the most kind numbingly boring class, which I ended up skipping like half the semester and still receiving and A while other students struggled with adding two costs together (second week of lecture). I genuinely have no idea how business majors make 50% more money than I do... :(

[@amistrophy]

It's not the degree that gets them the money. Most ppl with a business administration bachelors make around 60k. The ppl that make way more simply need the degree to access the jobs that daddy or mommy had already "found" for them

[@user-ek9vo2ub9b]

They fail up...

[@thedog5k]

@@amistrophygot it People keep talking about “ these business majors” making too much . Most of them don’t make that much, 60k ish… I did two years of businesses and decided to switch because the people in my class were so dumb I didn’t want to be lumped in with them.

[@softwetbread248]

Operations research is the cooler operations management

[@wassim1sameh800]

I had an exchange year at an Ivy league, in my first sem I took 5 classes, 4 of them were graduate level, 3 in EE and one in Physics, the fifth one was a freshman econ class. I got straight A'a in the EE and Physics classes and a B in the econ class because of how dumb everything was. Every time I'd go to the professor and say "oh, that's illogical" he'd shut me off and say you don't know what you're talking about. The logic and the math was completely absurd. Not to mention he had to spend 15~25 minutes per class explaining the quadratic equation. I was just very disappointed that these kids were the ones that will get job offers on silver platters while I will work my ass off just to get a small offer because I was from a third world country and not from an Ivy like them.

[@honkhonk8009]

Facts. Dude I hated Econ. Got an A- on it SOMEHOW even though I thought I failed it. The econ that I learn in class, is nothing like the Econ I learn from KZbin. I thought I was gonna be learning stuff like Bachelier processes. Maybe some cool math shit. But nah.

[@bananaraptor7747]

@@honkhonk8009"Cool math shit" You are so incredibly deserving of your engie pfp.

[@SM16Basketball]

That fact that you can’t distinguish between economics and finance is maybe why you got an A-, not because of the class being stupid

[@SeaScoutDan]

Yes boss, you want to me to round this way, fine whatever. If they want to round to 3 sigg figs, I write out 4 sig figs, then round to 3.

[@wassim1sameh800]

@@SeaScoutDan As an EE I can safely say they round stuff worst than engineer and physicists. An engineer would round up to a nearest decimal according to their calculation - pi = 3, e = 2, and g = 10, a physicist would round up to get an order of magnitude - assume the cube is a sphere, and econs round up to the nearest non-scary-looking number

[@johnwong2716]

You reminded me my social statistic class when I was a sociology student, it was an open book exam and I feel like I was the monkey in Chinese room experiment

[@amistrophy]

Bro is just navigating a library with the answers lol

[@connor9024]

As an Econ student, I kinda want to defend myself by saying how Econ and business are different, and business students have little business being students, but on the other hand we just make things up and point to graphs. Most likely that was a statistics class for business students, getting into econometrics gets pretty fun using statistical methods to explain real life trends!

[@redstoneactive6589]

(my first instinct was to type "NERD") I think that fun part is a lot better used by things that aren't just an economics degree.

[@zna9297]

didnt modern economics break the whole world? it was founded by colonialism in the 1400s and soaked the world in blood

[@user-li4ye8nn4c]

tbf as an econ major a lot of my major classes were pretty bad too. I think all of the social sciences suffer from really awful intro classes that straight up teach myths and completely sidestep explaining method. You have to get to upper level stuff and econometrics for it to get good.

[@connor9024]

@@user-li4ye8nn4c I’m not too sure how your school is. At mine, ALL business students have to take 2 Econ classes. Many students struggle with these classes because you’re right, the early classes throw a lot of hoopla at you with little to no math and expect you to just believe everything they say. By the time in your undergraduate you reach econometrics, you’re working beside the schools PHD candidates, as it’s a prerequisite for them to enter into their programs. Vast differences from where you start your degree and where you finish it with ECON. That being said, we still sound like lunatics anytime someone says anything about present value.

[@uignireddngfiurdsgfiurdse]

Believe me, it's the intellectual bankruptcy of your discipline that's permitting the drooling idiots in business schools to justify their conclusions.

[@zachm.3887]

I remember during my mandatory statistics class a philosophy student started arguing with the stats professor about quantum mechanics. I've taken quantum and I can say for certain that neither of them knew what they were talking about.

[@adorp]

That's pretty much every human except Feynman.

[@pigeon_9161]

Im doing a major in econ, and i have classes with a lot of business people. They genuinely scare me, I do not think they have souls behind their eyes. And Im studying a lot more administrative stuff than actual econ I want to put my arm in a meat grinder so I can focus on the physical pain instead of the much less bearable mental pain Im going through

[@FatherGoz]

If you're early on in the major don't worry, it does get better when you get into more applied topics. If you're more math minded try to get into a microecon class or econometrics. Any class on the IT side that will teach you how to use R or Python. Get into something like International Econ for less math but more "why does this happen" critical thinking. And for the love of god do an internship or two. You need that to get an actual job using your degree quickly.

[@pigeon_9161]

@@FatherGoz thx your comment is really reassuring

[@Koyomix86]

I’m glad that where I’m majoring in Econ doesn’t have a business school

[@sidd8257]

Like the other guy said the classes tend to get actual meat on their bones later on. There are some genuinely hard classes in Econ majors later on, especially if you have a somewhat tough econometrics prof. Money and Banking for example was ROUGH, or I'm stupid idk. There are still some baby easy electives at higher level though - game theory was baby easy for me but pretty much EVERYONE got bad grades on those tests somehow. Your peers will kinda get better too. Some who weren't ready for it select out and you will learn which ones are worth hanging around, either because they try even if they're not smart or they're smart and can help you with things too As a double major in Finance and Econ about to graduate, things are the same way on the Finance side too. I've had amazing classmates that I would want to be friends with if I wasn't busy with my own. Group projects are the worst though. I also had a guy who did literally nothing for a large chunk of the class in my 2-person group project based class last semester. It close to ruined my homecoming and semester because of the work that got shipped off to me. He later put on his resume that he put 40 hours a week into THAT ONE CLASS, and got into law school with that banger experience -.- Anyway try to take the non-business version of classes if your schedule allows, and diversify your classes. My program let me take a bunch of math (not enough for a minor though), stats, and some Python along the way. Your bosses will be impressed by the fact you know what an integral is (this really happened at an internship, it's not a theoretical), or you'll be a bit ahead of the curve for grad school if you go that route, if you know about Finance at all I'm doing CFA level II right now and really happy I did some of the "harder" electives before it Anyway I was bored and typed this hopefully you find some fulfilment in your major and make money

[@user-ky2rk8tp5g]

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[@musclechicken9036]

Not really related, but I was in a high school Chem class when the teacher asked “what’s 4/4” and half of the class proceeded to answer either 0 or 4. 😭

[@Zer0Blizzard]

modulus vs algebraic division war commencing

[@Ultrox007]

As the resident idiot who failed all these classes then self-taught statistics, probabilities, and permutations ENTIRELY to learn which games I could rig into my favor at casinos and carnivals. ...Wouldn't the answer be 1? Like, you split 4, four times... I have four apples and four friends, I give each friend one apple... how many does each friend have... WHAT?!

[@exotic1405]

​@@Ultrox007 nope, apparently all the friends phase out of existence

[@Mowdlin]

It’s a time signature : )

[@ombricshalazar3869]

it's called HIGH school for a reason

[@thatpataterguy9432]

In my econ course last year (Im a social studies education major, not business) we had it run by a sweet old lady who should probably have retired. I once had my final project drop a letter grade because i didnt submit something tgat was aready linked in the powerpoint I submitted. Her lectures were getting so boring so i started drawing soyjaks and dumbass corny memes on the whiteboard table

[@guestb8389]

Took an economy class in high school and about 25 of the 30 students in the class did not even know, or understand the concept of PEMDAS.

[@Teronix100]

Well to be fair PEMDAS isn't accepted by everyone. Eg.: ab/cd = ((ab)/c)d according to PEMDAS, while a lot of people would say it is (ab)/(cd) It is a convention, that not everyone subscribes to. That is the reason for the debate about 6 / 2(1+2) = 1 or 9

[@SenhorAlien]

​@@Teronix100There is no debate, there are the people who are right and those who are wrong, easy as.

[@epicchocolate1866]

@@SenhorAliennah not true. It’s slightly up to interpretation and so we are careful to be more explicitly in writing

[@dillbourne]

As a particle physicist, that "normalizing the data" procedure is probably, but not garuntee to be bullshit. On one hand, maybe he didn't trust that you had graphed it right. Or there was something wrong with measuring those two points. But there should have been a short follow-on study to CHECK that they were mistakes. So I'm inclined to believe he was just bullshitting.

[@trollinape2697]

How much maths is there in particle physics?

[@kaizetam6931]

In chemical engineering lab analysis, it's the norm to remove any "outliers", since there could be human error involved during tests

[@nullinf]

@@trollinape2697 a lot

[@michaels.3709]

​@@trollinape2697 Highly dependent on whether you work on the theory side or the experiment side. Both will require you to do physics PhD coursework, so you'll definitely need to know graduate-level maths while getting the degree, since almost all physics coursework is theory. (Of note for folks that want to search for more info, "particle physics" and "high energy physics" [HEP] are used pretty exchangeably these days since most particle physics is done at high energy collider experiments). In practice, Particle Theory is the continuation of the PhD coursework. My understanding is that knowing things like group theory, Lie algeabras, and other advanced maths is critical, as this is the foundation of quantum field theory, (which, itself, underpins all of modern particle physics). I'm sure the maths specializes as you begin to focus on a specific thesis project and career interests. On the experiment side (where I currently am), it's a mixed bag. Phenomenology is a very theory-adjacent subfield where physicists will model how specific theoretical particles will decay/interact with specific detector components and try to understand the specific signatures there. My understanding is there's a lot of field theory used here, too. Doing physics analysis from collision data (or calibration work, or precision measurements), you will typically learn a bit of quantum field theory at the PhD level, but the research is mostly statistics. My thesis is a particle search analysis and I haven't touched actual particle physics in a few years (and need to go and review things like the Feynman rules, etc for my defense). I still do a lot of math, but mostly I do statistics calculations and I write programs, so the computer actually does the math. Still need to know how to do the math, though, to know what you need to calculate. Most important things to understand are Bayesian statistics, likelihood functions, and how maximum likelihoods are calculated. Also, propagation of uncertainties, and knowing how to calculate both statistical and systematic uncertainties is key. Then you have hardware work, where you actually build detector components, solder chips into PCBs, write firmware for FPGAs, etc. If you work with a group that does any hardware development work, you can get exposure to a lot of different projects. How much maths are actually used varies. I've never done hands-on hardware development, but usually you're involved in both the fabrication/testing as well as the design, so there will definitely be math used in the design portion. I have done some FPGA work, and that's all programmable logic and binary arithmatic, so you'll need to know at least some basic algebra for that. Most of the FPGA stuff is doing signal processing calculations, though, so that'll require calculus and an understanding of things like Fourier Transforms, etc. Overall, quite a bit of maths for particle physics. If you know the kind of work you want to do (and what skills you'd like to learn), it's likely there's a project in HEP that will teach you those and more. The trick is finding a group doing the kind of work you want!

[@christophercappiello9788]

yeah you can't just throw out outliers for no reason. In fact, with enough data you are guaranteed to get outliers for purely statistical reasons. At some point having zero outliers becomes more suspicious than having them

[@someguycj]

I have never seen such insanity as taking an “x” out of an integral on the basis that it’s “constant to f(x)”. Is it just a number, or is this guy trying to insinuate that a whole function or variable inside an integral just doesn’t matter? We really are out here just making it up as we go.

[@raspberryjam]

f(x) is f times bigger, so ∫xf(x)dx = ∫x(f+1)dx = (f+1)∫xdx = f+1

[@someguycj]

@@raspberryjam Is that assuming x=1, or does this work in the context of x being any type of function or value?

[@braxbro6674]

@@raspberryjam that's... not how that works

[@TSSPDarkStar]

@@raspberryjam Can't tell if this was supposed to be a funny meme

[@jackinzbox.]

@@raspberryjamCan’t believe you forgot the + C. Rookie mistake.

[@halasyamv3190]

6:48 are you sure he wasnt just rounding the number? but taking off five points looks exessive to me

[@alfredwaldo6079]

Yup, 781 / 1024 = 0,7626953125. So there is definitely a good reason too round up. You often need to be as exact as possible

[@ethanrutevillarreal1506]

@@alfredwaldo6079 No, "..." means truncated, not rounded.

[@alfredwaldo6079]

@@ethanrutevillarreal1506 yeah

[@adbon6279]

Sure... if the dots werent there. You dont round and THEN put dots after it, cause then thats just an objectively different answer. Realistically jeff shoulda just rounded, but also rounding 2/3 to .7 is criminal.

[@ndrew9567]

@@adbon6279 i mean thats what sig figs are for, you have a system to determine if you round from the tenths, hundredths, or whatever place and its consistent. ok normal rule of thumb i learned in stats is to go 4 places past the decimal point so you can say 76.27% in this example instead of 76.3% and the whole thing with the dots is just objectively wrong but there is a system (that the prof only half followed)

[@loganseawright1173]

The most accurate part of this video is that he drinks Busch light and uses Zynjamin Franklins

[@Hadar1991]

As someone who studies econometrics and then mathematics (albeit in Europe) on two different universities I must say two things: 1. Be aware than when you are laughing at mathematical fluency of economics students, in the same time mathematics students are laughing at mathematical fluency of physics students and, especially, engineers. 2. The problem with studying economy is that you are often ask to use mathematical tools that were never introduce during the course. The most radical example was that we had a mandatory class (I don't remember what it was called) that basically required fluency in ergodic theory from students, whereas anything beyond linear optimization was never introduced in previous courses. I think we did not have differential equations even introduced at the time. If not for the fact, that the professor was a sweetheart and she was also surprised that anybody though it was good idea even have this class in curriculum, nobody should have pass the class. Even today, as a maths graduate, I don't have any idea about optimization in dynamic systems.

[@rez505]

It seems that Jeff ran into the issue of sig figs lmao 😂

[@DiamondKingStudios]

I had to learn about significant figures for my tenth grade chemistry class, and my teacher made it more annoying than it had to be, frankly.

[@rez505]

​@@DiamondKingStudios yeah for sure... it's an annoying but necessary system to deal with

[@imbadatgames568]

hate sig figs, damn near failed high school chemistry because of them

[@josephrupsis4623]

Hate sig figs

[@jessicaHHHHHH]

I lost so many points because of sig figs in high school. You’d think I’d make the effort to do them properly after unnecessarily lowering my grade, but I was still technically getting the right answers, and I didn’t believe that adding too many numbers to my answer could be a bad thing. That segment was exactly how I felt at the time.

[@CubesAndPortals]

Maybe it's just my lack of a college education, but I'm pretty sure you always round up by 1 if the next digit is 5 or higher. Not sure about the "..." notation.

[@camicus-3249]

Can't say I've seen anyone write ⅔ = 0.7... before. ⅔ ≈ 0.7, sure. But never with the "..." (To be clear, I would happily write ⅔ = 0.66..., and use "..." notation often for intermediate steps of a calculation)

[@rez505]

in my analytical chem classes they tell us how many significant figures they want, idk if the econ prof was doing that.

[@CubesAndPortals]

@@camicus-3249 yeah honestly the ≈ came up a lot more, I saw the ellipses in early science classes but only until we'd covered significant figures.

[@moeite7756]

​@@rez505exactly this, I've never seen the ... used in proper calculations before

[@stego-]

id assume that if a number ends in “…” it would be truncated and not rounded. (would be weird to round if you are saying there are more digits after. the point of rounding is to cut it off)

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

You worked in academic physics research without understanding significant figures? Gotta side with the professor on that rounding thing. That's entirely on you.

[@illuminaticake4528]

Glad youre taking sponsors, sure you could use the money, lol

[@redditastic6711]

Is this sarcasm

[@itissatno]

​@@redditastic6711 why would it be?

[@WenGrinno]

@@redditastic6711 You are *required* to believe it is from now on.

[@illuminaticake4528]

@@redditastic6711 in some videos of his he says things like "like and subscribe so i can pay for [x]" or something like that and he pays for his adobe creative cloud sub with youtube money

[@SloMoMonday]

Pray you never have to take an MBA course. Know companies that are actively avoiding people with MBA degrees.

[@anjoliebarrios8906]

sauce?

[@Zer0Blizzard]

I would hope so, unfortunately the vast majority of companies, particularly ones controlled by rich assholes, DEFINITELY want business grads.

[@darkthunder301]

Why? I'd assume companies want to hire smart people?

[@Solusist]

@@darkthunder301 Yes, that's exactly why they want to avoid people with an MBA background.

[@nobodyworthknowing8707]

I remember a lot of my peers in Engineering couldn't handle the math and physics and switched their majors to Business b/c it was way easier. Also...did you say you were in the bottom 1/3 and the curve brought you to an A-? Wow... No child left behind, indeed...

[@storytimewithjeff]

No child left behind is hilarious

[@1plus68hehe]

i have a teacher in high school who is EXACTLY like this. She's an english teacher, so already probably the most useless class for a senior in high school. But every time I do an assignment EXACTLY like she asked me to, shell find some petty ass reason to make my grade as low as possible. Every single day its like her class is just taking my brain to a grindstone and smoothing and polishing it out.

[@ianrau6373]

Report her to admin, and get as many people as possible to complain simultaneously. If possible, involve your parents and others parents. If you can find evidence of bias where similar work by you and another person were given different grades for petty reasons then she’ll be given a headache at the very least. Don’t take this lying down, it’ll never get better if you don’t complain above her head.

[@1plus68hehe]

@ianrau6373 nah, she hates everyone in my class equally. Also I go to a private school, so what's right isn't what happens. She knows people, and she's been here a few years now, which is longer than I have been. I'll just be labeled as a troublemaker and expelled.

[@chesspiece4257]

if she’s doing it to everyone maybe she’s just trying to hone your skills? if the rules are consistent at least. personally i think english is probably one of the most important classes you can take as a senior. being able to write well is good for any job

[@strangevol5264]

Give us some examples, that way we can know you aren’t lying. Just out of reasonable doubt

[@polygontower]

@@chesspiece4257 I personally find English classes one of the easiest for teachers to teach you rules and the likes that are completely and utterly useless, such as the so-called 'split infinitive'. And, perhaps another one would be marking down students who use phrases that don't form a complete sentences by themselves. I mean, phrases are used everywhere for emphasis and effect-newspapers, letters, books, etc.-that teaching them it's ungrammatical hurts their writing and is also wrong. For example, this excerpt from a novel, "Our lives took the forks and turns and twists into our own paths-into dark forests that sometimes felt impossible to survive. All leading to this moment. (Here, the phrase solely consist of a gerund-participial verb, which does not, in a traditional sense, meet the requirements for a sentence.)" Or maybe the 'rule' that conjunctions such as 'And', 'But' or 'Or' can't be used at the start of sentences. For example, this excerpt from another novel, "...spilled out in tears and screams and in heavy, pulsing silence. And somehow, as much as I hurt, I knew it was even worse for Dad." Revisions: *For your convenience, some missing words have been added back in. Some stupid issue with italics and bolded letters being deleted. And so there goes all the fancy formatting!

[@hasch5756]

In my time as a maths student, I helped some economics students (those studying actual economics that actual economists use) through their calc 2 classes in exchange for free lunches. It was all fun until one of them introduced me to his friends in _Business Economics_ and I had to explain to them what a logarithm was

[@harveyhutsby7697]

the part about 92.5% not being the highest grade nearly made me explode. I'm sure you've heard this before, but in the UK at all stages of schooling it's rare for 70% to not give the highest grade. In rare cases, the top grade can be less than 50%. 92.5% not being top is simply insane to me, I'd love to see the difference in exam question styles.

[@justsomenightowl7220]

I mean, I understand it not being the highest grade, but bottom third?? What kind of statistic classes are you getting? Everyone passes with an A???

[@pooperdooper3576]

​@justsomenightowl7220 the *exam grade* (the 78%) was bottom third of the class, not his final grade of that whole class, which was a 92.5%

[@josephvictory9536]

Yea, the english system is way harder. I cant speak for the university level, but i did both high school in an english and canadian system. I was laughing with every math question in the Canadian system and averaged a bit over 90%. Which is also harder than the US system by the way. Whereas i was fighting for over 70% in the English system. I used to think i was just retarded, then i realized why Americans think they are so smart!

[@alexritchie4586]

​@@justsomenightowl7220No, it's all graded on a curve, so it's as unlikely for someone here in the UK to score 75% as it would be someone in the US scoring 95%. Basically you can lop off the remaining 30% because unless you found and answered the secret, hidden questions, 70% is 100%

[@epicchocolate1866]

@@josephvictory9536it’s funny though how England performs considerably worse in OECD testing, then both Canada and the US. Complicating math doesn’t mean you learn it better.

[@fushifushi9441]

Guys remember here is a big difference between business economics and pure economics.

[@sottonk]

So really early on in the course your professor made it clear you should round, not truncate but your ego or laziness prevented you from learning that lesson... And your take away is that everyone else was too stupid?

[@jewels3400]

I remember in my stats we rounded nearly all of our numbers. Statistics is already an, "arguable," set of numbers. Like on surveys people lie, or methods of gathering data may be flawed. So a .00000076 difference isnt going to make a significant impact. Certain types of information need different amounts of specificity, like if you are testing measurements of liquid, youd want like 5 decimals. Where as if you are counting descrete data, like one person, or one cat, you cant have, "half a person," that doesn't make any sense. So you have to make it the closest round number.

[@ryuuk4498]

I've never seen someone just writing 0.342... to indicate that the number keeps going. Is this an American middle school thing? It's like such a normal standard to round the number throughout the scientific community

[@sottonk]

@@ryuuk4498 I've taught Physics, Mathematics and Computer Science, the only time I've seen it used is Computer Science in some specifics contexts, but even then it's usually for integer division (sometimes called floor). I've never seen a Physics or Maths course that would accept truncating answers.

[@RainbowLord]

Blu stick > glue stick (for the business majors this is a “greater than” symbol signifying that blu stick is better [greater] than glue sticks)

[@user-cc7vx7sw4z]

I double majored in aerospace engineering and economics. I found it funny how wildly the difficulty of economics electives varied and how students self-selected into them. Advanced econometrics was legitimately rigorous and some of the smartest students I met in college were in that class. At the other end of the spectrum, the hardest part of international finance was not slamming my head into my desk when one of my brain dead classmates struggled with the ridiculously basic math in that class (literally if you know that 1-1=0, you’d be fine). I have no idea how some of the people in that class got into college much less passed the calculus prerequisites.

[@robincray116]

6:50 That thing with 0.762... vs 0.763 is also known as rounding. 0.76269.... can be rounded off to 3 significant figures into 0.763. Being unfamiliar with this concept feels very maths major.

[@rohaisme]

The issue is the rounded version still hass the ... implying that there is more numbers.

[@sepro5135]

Im 99% sure he knows that but 0.763… makes no sense. 0.762… or 0.763 do. That’s the point he was making

[@robincray116]

Significant figures is enforced in some classes. 0.7627 probably would have gotten points deducted as well.

[@Y.Z-Au]

@@robincray116 Exactly. 0.76269 implies that the measurement has an accuracy of 5 d.p. while 0.763 implies that the measurement was accurate to 3 d.p. The former is misleading and deserves only a partial mark.

[@Y.Z-Au]

Every major has its own assumptions and paradigms that look strange to outsiders. I studied three completely unrelated majors. Humility and the Principle of Charity go a long way.

[@Alec-ej7sh]

„econ students are too lazy so they use random number generators“ proceeds to show example of a physics student doing exactly that

[@mairlanggass]

Biz Econ is like Econ for the people who rode on the short bus when they were in school.

[@hammerth1421]

Business rounding is fun. It's kind of like physicists and data - everyone always chooses what helps them the most. Costs get rounded down, revenues get rounded up and random numbers from university problem sheets get rounded randomly.

[@Tenajeh]

So, you consistently rounded incorrectly through the entire duration of the class and in the exam and are surprised about a minor decrease in your grade? I dunno, but this seems entirely avoidable. Especially as economics classes are rarely more complicated than elementary school math, cozy RPG mechanics, and some fancy terminology sprinkled in.

[@steffenjensen422]

He didn't round though, that's what the ... signifies. It means "the number goes on but I'm not writing it anymore". But different fields have different conventions of how to do stuff so it's completely fine if the professor wanted them to round, however the Prof should specify that

[@Y.Z-Au]

@@steffenjensen422 You don't read an economics article saying "The GDP grew by 3.333...%". We all know the measurement is not that accurate, and I doubt it even has 2 d.p. considering the millions of possible errors in data collection.

[@Y.Z-Au]

I think people saying economics classes use simpler maths than the grade X maths class simply missed the point. Economics is never about advanced maths. It uses simple maths to deal with complicated, largely human-made/influenced rules. An Italian language class would use even less maths, but no one would say it's easier than a grade X maths class. Of course, a class of any subject at MIT will be completely different from the same class at a community college.

[@shane_rm1025]

​@@Y.Z-AuIt just means they haven't taken anything past intro level. Intermediate micro and macro both require calc 2

[@ryuuk4498]

@@steffenjensen422 Who has the convention to write 0.323...? Is this an actual thing?

[@matthewdowling6549]

I’ve always been a math person. Took a Calc class and absolutely sucked at it, but I at least knew the basics. When I heard 3:34 I felt my soul leave my body

[@honkhonk8009]

Lol polar opposite for me. I fucking looooved calc but took a discrete math course and got ass grades

[@Attaxalotl]

As someone who's currently taking an online macroeconomics class, it is not halving my IQ but crushing my soul.

[@VictorMartinez-zf6dt]

I knew physicists were full of it, but I didn't know it was that bad.

[@JoshuaGramm-ur9re]

Exactly

[@Runenut]

this guy is a real piece of work

[@JEFF-we9cx]

CONGRATS ON 100K DUDE!! From the AP college board videos the thing that changed was you lost more sanity.

[@braydonfisher9273]

I was in a lecture earlier today and a person in front of me was asking Wolfram-Alpha what 36-24 and 2.4-1.2 were, and similar questions. It was a sustainabile engineering lecture.

[@honkhonk8009]

I mean tbf dude im not pulling out my calculator when I already got my laptop out lol. My entire google search history, is just polluted with stupid ass searches like "6 + 7" lol

[@michaelwong426]

Because when you're integrating, differentiating, proofing, or whatever.. You really can't be bothered with arithmetic anymore.

[@My_Old_YT_Account]

​@@honkhonk8009you know your computer has a calculator, right?

[@pooperdooper3576]

​@honkhonk8009 the point is that he needed a calculator at all for 36-24 and 2.4-1.2

[@braydonfisher9273]

@@pooperdooper3576 exactly. I can understand not wanting to do bigger multiplication or arithmetic but something small like that? Its just odd.

[@orson6897]

Economics is actually very math intensive and economists tend to have high iqs. You took a business econ class, not a real econ class.

[@Bigheadman1226]

Blood doesn't understand rounding and blames his professor

[@AstridFrost-rc7wf]

youre so mathematically illiterate you dont know what a recurring decimal is or how to notate it...

[@LeSpeederus]

My brother's doing this rn. It's a damn shame, because he's actually smart and completely and utterly wasted in economics. Good for him, he's got plenty of time for gaming inbetween rounds of mindless busy work and solving most "problems" within seconds in his head, but at the same time he's not being challenged and stagnates in his intellectual growth. Dude's bored and who could blame him. I dropped econ for that very reason.

[@richardkim6457]

BABE NEW STORY TIME JUST DROPPED 🔥🔥🔥

[@unworthyzeus]

You know what's funny, if the professor rounded the grade like he did any other fraction you would have gotten an A

[@Some_Average_Joe]

It looks like that professor was docking points for not following the standard useage for significant figures, but not explaining it either

[@user-rm1pz3du4j]

Is your university/college suffering from horrific grade inflation? getting much above 80% is close to unheard of at my university, even among absolute top-performers.

[@JosefCreations]

Lol huh? I think your professors might just be wildly strict

[@emilsinclair4190]

I think this might be European vs US system. At least this was my experience when dealing with some European and some American students.

[@U20E0]

That's not how that works. If you can't get above 80 then 80 should be 100

[@emilsinclair4190]

@U20E0 that is not how % work.

[@U20E0]

@@emilsinclair4190 i mean that's not how grading should work. If no-one's getting above 80 that means the test is too hard.

[@aidenhall8593]

To call them all stupid when you failed at the most basic part of a class, following the teachers instructions, is frankly really stupid

[@alexritchie4586]

The problem with basic econ courses is that they don't teach economics; They teach the current political paradigm and how that's intended to be paid for (or not).

[@benjaminandrades8951]

Don't think you know what you're talking about. I'm no fan of neoclassical economics but this is just bad faith.

[@charlqz2235]

Took a principles of Micro class. Maybe what you're saying is true, I don't have a different reference. However, I learned a bunch of things, like the Production Possibilities Curve, the supply and demand model, cost curves, models for Oligopoly, Monopoly, Monopolistic Competition, we even did some Game Theory which was pretty fun!

[@elciervoparaguayo3756]

I highly doubt you've ever taken a economics class

[@smashwombel]

Completely untrue

[@monkeeee]

I have a a degree in Econ and this hits the nail on the head for any class that had “Business” in the name. Most of the classes I had that focused on specific concepts (Public spending, Environmental, Behavioral, etc…) had almost zero student overlap with any of the business econ courses. Half of the guys in the upper level business econ classes were some of the most brainrotted people I have ever met.

[@champaris2610]

Here in France it’s standard to round numbers like that without putting three dots afterwards, it’s just more convenient

[@kori527]

I started liking youtube videos specifically because of your videos, stand proud🙏🏼

[@ElectrostatiCrow]

Stand proud, Jeff. You are strong.

[@Blade.5786]

Nah, I'd win

[@EwariDiaz]

the ... is due to rounding to the nearest significant figures.

[@TrevorHammill]

if you round it, you no longer have the ellipsis, as there are no more digits after your rounding. That is literally the point of rounding.

[@APaleDot]

@@TrevorHammill Right, so why was he answering with ellipses when he was supposed to round?

[@hx5525]

@@APaleDotYup, too stubborn to change

[@TrevorHammill]

@@APaleDot the point he made in the video is that the professor corrected him to rounding AND keeping the ellipsis, which is clearly wrong. And also, without expectation of rounding, some people might default to just dumping the numbers. Not the way I'd do it, but valid if there's no other instruction.

[@Man-of-Steel674]

Watching your videos actually improved my knowledge about the world. So thanks.

[@TheStickCollector]

Glad to see you back. It can be good as long as you have a good teacher, like every class. It would be beneficial if it was also a finance class or at least had a section dedicated to it.

[@daltonzoletta]

Before watching the video, 100% agree, Econ classes just do that. After watching, no change, statistics for business majors is physics without calculus, iykyk.

[@ann6048]

as a current econometrics (econ+the advanced stats for social sciences) batchelor student at RUG, I can somewhat agree with you, 1/3 of my classes are econ which ranges from piss easy to taking some moderate amount of thinking when game theory comes, with me thinking i was in the wrong class in one case cuz all the material was already covered and then there's the econometrics exclusive courses to teach us about how to do statistics and the relevant maths, wiich go from some effort being required to frying my brain also yes, god latex homework assignments can take up so god damn much of your time and i was the only person to sufficiently bother reading the manual for one of our code packages to realise one significant homework assignment was just the demonstration section phrased as questions

[@Parciwal_Gaming]

6:56 he probably ignored the ... and thought you rounded to three decimals, in which case you should have rounded to 0.763

[@magicarmyman]

I took a micro econ elective at My local community college over the summer. We did our tests on the computers in the library and he basically said once you finished just come tell me and you can leave. He would say to every single person when they finished in a condescending tone "that was fast, too fast" as if he expected the basic tern regurgitation that was the test to take 3 hours.

[@benhbr]

You wanna talk inane rounding rules? I have seen the correct (and exact) answer "1 A" corrected to "1.0 A", because the given numbers had two siginificant digits. So 0.5 instead of 1 point. Repeat this several times (also the other way around: 500 s is wrong, it should be 5.0*10^2 s) and lo-and-behold, a slightly passing grade became a slightly failing grade.

[@hedgehog3180]

That's not inane though, someone else who is reading your paper should be able to easily make out how accurate your results are so you absolutely should conserve significant digits even if that digit is 0. And like if you're barely passing then this is obviously part of a failure to understand the very basics of the subject and the scientific method. Like you just don't understand the point of significant digits and you're being graded accordingly.

[@user6122]

no yea that's normal you shouldn't make up numbers you didn't get nor hide numbers you did get

[@w014prc7]

who doesn’t round the last sig fig of a decimal???? That’s totally fair to lose marks over

[@Y.Z-Au]

Exactly, you can't write 0,7626... in general. 0.12345 implies that the figure is accurate to 5 d.p. If I see that, I'd assume either you have super accurate measurement, or it's divided from very large numbers. This is misleading.

[@steffenjensen422]

Physicists tend to not round unless it's absolutely necessary. But he was in an econ class, so he should've done it the way econs do it

[@vladimirbadalyan1195]

Been studying econ for the last 5 years. Can confirm that each class I took halved my IQ, and this effect stacks up.

[@greeny5549]

Took microecon during my second year in college. I routinely finished the in-class work 20 minutes into the 75 minute class and ended up having to explain the concepts to the other people at the table. I ended up using the graphs to practice calculus for giggles.

[@blitzn00dle50]

I'm taking an economics class right now. We have 2 lectures a week, except I haven't been to a single one since February. I've been skipping it every tuesday and thursday to attend the in-person physics lecture. yes, I'm literally skipping class to attend class. certified college moment. I have a 94% in the class anyway because it's just algebra 1 caked in ideology the only reason I could ever get into this situation was because of the absolute dumpster fire that ensued trying to get me into college. records were split between my divorced parents who don't share information, so there was an immunization hold on my account when I registered for spring 2024 classes and I got stuck with a rancid fucking dogshit ass schedule

[@marcosbatista5543]

Hey, Economics and Mathematics major here. Please stop referring to business students as "econ" students. Don't know what kind of academic swamp you study at, but economics is very very different from business. A PhD in economics requires more mathematics than an engineer would dare take, and economics majors are consistently ranked as the best prepared in top law programs. Fun video, but please rename it. Business is not economics. We do not claim the tards.

[@wchristian2000]

Yeah a lot of people don’t know this and its a little frustrating. Also tribalism in academia is getting out of hand imo…

[@lwrcse-uj4oi]

Ah this explains my issue with the video. He probably took a business Econ course and decided the whole field was easy. This is a fair assumption but if he wants to comment on the issue he should be more informed. Our undergrad degree, unbeknownst to all the stem nerds is actually the highest paying degree as far career-net-worth goes, contrary to what the FLOTM majors think.

[@G69zLmL]

Thank you Sotrytime w/Jeff!

[@koolrocker12]

yeah yeah business/econ bad STEM good can I have some likes thx

[@crabbyhola]

i fw with you heavy ngl

[@storytimewithjeff]

🫡🫡🫡

[@firstnamekarner6263]

Some friends and I once decided to tour the business lounge on campus and it was a very obviously not frequently used small room with a single whiteboard, and on it was a T-chart which read “Debit” on one label and “Crebit” on the other and nothing else anywhere on the board.

[@reeceb4622]

Yeah, at my college Econ and Business are split into different schools for this reason. As an Econ major I got some good experience tutoring business majors how to do their business calculus. Whenever anyone asked how Econ was different from business at my school, I told them that Econ is like business but for people that aren’t afraid of calculus and coding.

[@cmorris7104]

ngl I think he just wanted you to round instead of truncate. Personally I don’t see a lot of people doing it your way

[@adamoliver4094]

As someone that took upper division physics (electrodynamics, solid state physics, analytical mechanics, etc) as a non-physics major (chemical engineering). I'll say yall are justisfied in poking a little fun at the rest of us. With the exception of the pure math guys - what you're studying is much harder than what the rest of us are doing.

[@datboi-ub9pe]

This video is so 50/50 I have had some of the easiest coloring classes off all time and some of my hardest coloring classes Of all time in the Econ building

[@yuehan6711]

I feel this is a pretty dishonest portrayal of economics. Intro courses are intro courses, this is like taking a precal course and lamenting the state of mathematics. The field is full of issues but good work is done sometimes even at an upper undergraduate level. Also economics has nothing to do with or is at most tangentially related to buisness.

[@rainhadainglaterra8829]

7:00 you have to round the number up since it's 0,7626 and six is higher than 5, so 0,763...

[@Y.Z-Au]

Also, you can't write 0,7626... in general. 0.12345 implies that the figure is accurate to 5 d.p. If I see that, I'd assume either you have super accurate measurement, or it's divided from very large numbers. This is misleading.

[@steffenjensen422]

The three dots signify that no rounding has taken place and the person simply doesn't write more of the decimal places for convenience so no, that would be wrong. It would be correct to write = 0.763 but not with the three points after it

[@steffenjensen422]

​@@Y.Z-AuThis was a business class, there are no measurements, it's exact numbers

[@LineRider0]

781 is 3 significant figures. 781/1024 to 3 sig figs is 0.763

[@Y.Z-Au]

@@steffenjensen422 So where does the data come from in the first place? In the real world, someone would have collected it for you in the first place. Your result should not pretend to have higher accuracy than your source.

[@carterwoodson8818]

I take pure math classes at my uni, one of the req classes is a simple stats class, barely any calculus. It was the only class that a calculator was allowed/ encouraged. I could never remember to bring a calculator, uni wouldnt provide one and wouldnt set up lock-out browser to use online calculators, so it was the only course I got an A- in. lowest grade. Glad im not alone.

[@josephrupsis4623]

Congratulations on 100k!!!!!!

[@ElijahBobingerDragonogh]

7:06 Your professor was absolutely correct about the rounding. Always round to the nearest significant digit, I suppose was his concern? I'm sorry for the upsetting difficulty of TAKING FIVE PERCENT because of the thousandth's digit. Fuck that guy.

[@AstridFrost-rc7wf]

he also insisted on keeping the ellipsis that indicates its a sig fig, defeating the purpose of rounding

[@loganiushere]

I doubted his IQ had _really_ been halved until I hit play and was hit with a sponsorship.

[@NightytimeExtras]

Brilliant isn't a scam, it's just not really worth the price to most people. I used it for a year and it was a cool service, but you can learn the subject matter by other means for cheaper. At least it's not BetterHelp.

[@yeahBradley]

I regretfully decided to get a minor in econ at the state university, but I had already completed Calc I-IV and Phys I-II. All the econ stuff was just bits and pieces from those 6 classes made super easy. I remember in the first week the TA apologizing to students for having to teach them partial derivatives.

[@RealPersistences]

I have never taken an econ course, but already i sometimes feel like my IQ is halved when i see that immature ppl my age r here. College has been a big shift and some ppl treat it as if its a party

[@Sucralose2]

when the next number is 5 or more you're supposed to round up, not down. hope this helps

[@sumdude132]

As a Chem E masters graduate, it seems engineers and physics majors don't often see eye to eye. Nothing warms my heart more than shitting on business majors. I also took business econ and did the same thing, I got a B+ after everyone everyone of my fellow students got an A (my school was kewl and didn't give A-'s). I may or may not have been caught cheating on all the hw cuz i was too lazy to do it, meaning I got a 0 for all homeworks. Still beats actually trying is those classes

[@thegoon1353]

microeconomics and game theory are absolute murder but I gotta agree with you here. The stats prof I took to satisfy my econ requirements was absolute ass but I still somehow managed to pass the class

[@scottwindey4894]

1st video of yours I've seen, all I have to say is you're a king for putting the loading bar under the sponsor portion.

[@dedede5586]

i can confirm, as an engineering major econ is the worst thing in existence.

[@TheScrublordsPrayer]

This was insufferable; I sincerely hope the ego is a bit for the video.

[@ergwertgesrthehwehwejwe]

This guy probably uses reddit lol, he’s like XKCD but without the wit that carries his comics

[@WWIIprofessor]

This guy is an absolute golden comedian