I TRIED CYBERCLOPS IN THE 160s...

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@KryyssTV
@KryyssTV Жыл бұрын
Cyberclops is handy for Constructors as the 58% bonus damage on energy attacks 1/5th of the time also applies to traps so has an effective bonus of ~12% which is better than the Super Charged Traps bonus for one Constructor plus it boosts any energy weapons you may use. I've been using it with Electrified Floors and it very effectively kills Husks who aren't shielded which leaves me free to focus on just placing traps intended for the thiccest critters.
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames Жыл бұрын
I tried that recently and I believe the 11.6% effective bonus is inflated. This bonus requires nearby enemies and that just isn't always the case. I think a 5th constructor is significantly more reliable while also functioning on all elements. Here's the run - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWfImZR_nrmUg5o
@KryyssTV
@KryyssTV Жыл бұрын
@@xMistaBeastxGames It does require at least two enemies for the chain to occur so there is a situational consideration. But the alternatives are adding support characters who just provide added utility to base building and a weaker damage bonus limited to just traps. Frozen Castle may be a viable way to increase effectiveness of bases for damage since a Husk taking longer to cross tiles would take more damage from Electrified Floors and spend more time within range of traps but since I don't have The Ice King I'm not able to make a comparison.
@ShanxyyLuvsU
@ShanxyyLuvsU Жыл бұрын
NOOO DONT GO TO THE DARK SIDEEEEEE
@NuttsnBolts
@NuttsnBolts Жыл бұрын
Actually did some numbers on this cause someone was asking about Teddy Loadouts recently, so I'm guessing they watched the stream. Test was to determine the how much damage the Lead hero can produce whilst having all max 130 ninjas for the highest Ability Damage, no additional buffs. Potental damage over 15 seconds: - Fragment Flurry: 60 shots / 843,780 Damage - Cyberclops: 60 shots / 843,780 Energy Damage (+ 196,230.24 Chain Damage) - Staredown: 60 shots / 843,780 Damage (+ 520,530 Laser Damage) - Jilly Teacup: 60 shots / 843,780 Damage (Variable: Energy Lightning can do up to 100k every 2 seconds. Crits trigger randomly) - Trailblazer: 75 shots / 1,543,650 Damage (6 shots a second, +46% Damage) - Enforcer: 108 Shots / 1,335,744 Damage (+12 sec) Breaking it down as a DPS value it's around about a 50-100k DPS, which is not very high. Staredown has the highest potential vs mixed element crowds, Cyberclops is the best for any elemental needs, and Jilly could be strong but at 5% she's not guaranteed high damage. In theory you may get enough damage perks and crit opportunities to maybe take down a 160 smasher, but it'll never happen. Realistically, the 13 Base Damage needs a buff to about 25. Until they do that there isn't really any reason why people should run Teddy in a 160.
@aaronjump2193
@aaronjump2193 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to post all the math!! I enjoy the math; but never did teddy as it wasn't top priority.
@NuttsnBolts
@NuttsnBolts Жыл бұрын
@@aaronjump2193 It actually offered a heap of clarity as to what the glaring issue with the ability is. We all know that it is the Base damage which is low, but for the best Heroes of the bunch to not even reach half of a 160 Smasher's health shows the severity of how weak Outlanders can be. When I do testing for weapons I usually aim for a smasher to be killed in one mag, and hopefully within the 8 second mark as that is how long TRO generally lasts. Non TRO builds are a little different as they may require two mags, but even those can kill a smasher in around about 15-20 seconds approximately. Fragment Flurry Jess would need about 4 uses, or a full minute of up time. That is not balanced and lacks immensely seeing as their class is supposed to be build around run and gun style of gameplay where the gadgets and abilities do most of the work.
@aaronjump2193
@aaronjump2193 Жыл бұрын
I worry that to strong and it might encourage more going "afk" which I'll never understand. But seems they could do 20+ and tweak if necessary. They are run n gun buffing pistols n smgs rather than AR. I'd love to see it for survivalist too though. I think even your move creep they picked 13 for all these abilities and none of them should be any less than 18.. it's like they're set up for a hero ability of 32.50 or to be buffed by teammates but realistically it's more like 2600. My guestimation is they have intelligent engineer types who can code and are reasonably capable but never hired a "human" calculator for a game with so much math. Why they don't play with it and tweak these things Idk.
@Shadowed2
@Shadowed2 Жыл бұрын
I believe if you also use azalea clark, it will buff teddy’s energy damage just a bit more
@PatchTheAlpha
@PatchTheAlpha Жыл бұрын
I personally run cyberclops in primarily an energy AR loadout (GREAT aoe with that chaining), just the usual assault sledgehammer etc build, mean whilst that energy boost simultaneously buffs my traps and abilities, it's a fun way to play :)
@dilliganburritoes
@dilliganburritoes Жыл бұрын
The sad truth teddy mains will never realize is that minigun builds are just better on all cylinders
@m1ch4el95
@m1ch4el95 Жыл бұрын
Nononoono but bear go burr😡😡
@pheonix8167
@pheonix8167 Жыл бұрын
Ye but is lazy way outlander
@theebuoy
@theebuoy Жыл бұрын
But, “y’all ain’t bears”
@alvaroberts6301
@alvaroberts6301 Жыл бұрын
I did not know Cyberclops buffs trap damage, I'll have to try him in my Machinist Harper loadout for Endurance.
@NunyaBidness590
@NunyaBidness590 Жыл бұрын
Instead of fragment generation, (not needed), use the Battle Beat chick. Essential, with this build she constantly procs for 50 percent extra damage. Instead of Under Warranty, use the Hero that adds range and range damage to TEDDY.
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames Жыл бұрын
I have low expectations that any of that would significantly improve this build
@sundaedog
@sundaedog Жыл бұрын
​@@xMistaBeastxGames a improvement is a improvement !
@aaronjump2193
@aaronjump2193 Жыл бұрын
50% over 8s averages 25 plus downtime in-between to kill 9 taking no less than 1second but realistically 3 to work out to about 18%. Just above the 15-17% standard because it varies more than a flat buff. Probably similar damage.
@NuttsnBolts
@NuttsnBolts Жыл бұрын
Battle Beat only occurs once per Teddy deployment. Tried it in an SSD a while back where I could see the numbers slowly drop and not retrigger. Also I believe the math is off on the damage it offers. It started at 22,964 and ended on 17,496. It should have started more at 26k so I think it's bugging out and boosting the 13 base stat by 50%, not the end value damage.
@hodlbro3949
@hodlbro3949 6 ай бұрын
@@xMistaBeastxGames Battlebeat more than makes up for fragment generation and improves single target damage drastically so maybe retest?
@maddygamin640
@maddygamin640 6 ай бұрын
I wish cyberclops was as good as he sounds on paper being able to allow teddy to take advantage of energy and making all your energy weapons and traps more effective maybe a little buff to him and some other teddy hero’s to make them more viable in end game would be amazing
@pgp3800
@pgp3800 Жыл бұрын
Cybercyclops is a fun loadout. Is not the best loadout, it's not an amazing single target damage loadout its not a sit back drop a Teddy and go make a sandwich loadout and healing death burst is its kryptonite. However, exploiting the fact that ALL energy damage can get a bonus makes him good. Use all your abilities, bring a good energy weapon use your turret and your traps and actually play the game he will be putting in some work. You will have fun and you will see the most insane damage numbers of all time. I've never seen him as a teddy loadout. He is a pull out the entire kitchen sink and all of it gets a bonus load out.
@mdv636
@mdv636 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see all 4 of you have cyberclops as lead and see how it goes with some of the recommended TEDDY builds from other subscribers. I also would like to know if freeze traps work better than tar pit with this build.
@ReiAyanamiDiscord
@ReiAyanamiDiscord Жыл бұрын
I prefer battle beat over under warranty been using this build for a long time. Pairs very well with energy damage in general. The bounce affects everything energy. I will say you cant just throw a teddy down and win unless you're low area. Teddy is just an arm in my tool kit. Normally running noct for primary, xenon, and plasmatic for smashers. Shock tower for aoe clear to maybe revive or slow a choke point, smash for getting rid of shielders quickly. Edit: Also see alot of comments to take fragment charge out but you need it to throw teddy down as much as possible. Edit for my edit: I do have a class for everything I just like doing different things. Can I mini build, run crit builds, or constructor? Sure, they all have their uses but I will say this build hasn't let me down. Honestly like to switch it up more BECAUSE cyberclops can be a boring play style.
@Gohei27
@Gohei27 Жыл бұрын
im less than two minutes in. dealing 50% physical to elements vs 75% energy to elements, is not a 25% increase. It's a 50% increase.
@calaca55
@calaca55 Жыл бұрын
I assume he meant +25% damage, but yes, it was poorly worded, and you are correct
@gecko5575
@gecko5575 Жыл бұрын
I run Azalea Clark rather than Jilly Teacup in that slot for a flat extra 15% rather than a single crit on each enemy. Also, as one of Cyberclops' strongest soldiers, his bear shouldn't be used on it's own lol, run one of the retro space weapons (or any energy weapon of your choice, I just like running a matching aesthetic) with it. It's more of an "energy cell saver" build. Cyberclops is my goat !!
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames Жыл бұрын
If you're going to be shooting there are MUCH stronger builds than cyberclops
@gecko5575
@gecko5575 Жыл бұрын
@@xMistaBeastxGames Oh yeah no doubt, there will always be a stronger build, but Cyberclops is a goofy guy
@snuffleupagus8268
@snuffleupagus8268 Жыл бұрын
I just got my power level boosted out of nowhere and then I went back down there was no one in my lobby
@МаркоЛоза
@МаркоЛоза Жыл бұрын
The most useful outlander on 160s is Subzero Zenith and Cyberclops bunus is very helpful in his loadout 😎 For a future, you better try Cyberclops loadout for Shock Tower - it may be more interesting and powerfull than T.E.D.D.Y.
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames Жыл бұрын
"and Cyberclops bunus is very helpful in his loadout" it is not
@shawntraverse3762
@shawntraverse3762 Жыл бұрын
Replace fragment regen and jilly with battle beats and can't remember the name but the alien rio and more damage for abilities. .. with traps killing my battle beats is always active
@Noahcastilla
@Noahcastilla Жыл бұрын
i really like using him in a farha build because even affliction chains with his affect
@Noahcastilla
@Noahcastilla Жыл бұрын
also works with drones literally everything thats energy
@aaronjump2193
@aaronjump2193 Жыл бұрын
I'll have to try him with Zenith lead in a high spawn mission. I used to use him more but he got replaced as there weren't always husks to chain too, and I needed the damage. If it chains affliction though it may be fun to switch it around.
@joska0246
@joska0246 Жыл бұрын
the teddy energie damage is actually a 50% increase 1:23
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames Жыл бұрын
Ehhh sort of not really
@mileshadley5064
@mileshadley5064 Жыл бұрын
I don’t use abilities. Just preemptive strike and shoot enough to kill everything. Depending on the game I’ll give up life gain for more 💥 and really clean house.
@aaronjump2193
@aaronjump2193 Жыл бұрын
I was almost upset at first but i understand context better now. Teddy sucks at high level. Physical to energy would be a 50% buff to Teddy 75/50=1.5 making teddy suck less. Cyberclops though also buffs all the other stuff(i didnt know about traps till you said). Otherwise i agree completely Cyberclops is high A Tier, not because of teddy but all together; 11% trap buffs and weapon damage too. There arent many other outlanders trap buffing. Anyway thank you for the hard work!!
@محمدالبلوي-س6ر5ن
@محمدالبلوي-س6ر5ن Жыл бұрын
I suggest doing a shock tower it's sooo underrated idk why
@468erpeashooter9
@468erpeashooter9 Жыл бұрын
What about energy founder’s pistol + cyberclops 😳
@ReiAyanamiDiscord
@ReiAyanamiDiscord Жыл бұрын
If it were legendary maybe I hate they never gave us that. I do like running the msk pistol with the build though its actually pretty fun.
@МаркоЛоза
@МаркоЛоза Жыл бұрын
@@ReiAyanamiDiscord i have made Founders Pistol fully supercharged one of the first of my weapons! Love it!
@avatarbreh
@avatarbreh Жыл бұрын
No Static Cling?
@chrono269
@chrono269 Жыл бұрын
What do you think about Diecast Jonesey (Energy minigun) supported by cyberclops and rest of the minigun related heroes? i have not yet tried this myself, but it feels like it could turn minigun from single target burst DPS into AOE dps for less time
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames Жыл бұрын
Barely AOE. You've got better options
@Rios-ov3xi
@Rios-ov3xi Жыл бұрын
Doing energy over physical damage is actually 50% more to elementals, making it quite good. .75/.5 = 1.5.
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames Жыл бұрын
I think you're confused. I covered elements here - kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4DMZaxne82arqM
@borgheses
@borgheses Жыл бұрын
xenon bow?
@Robert_Conway
@Robert_Conway Жыл бұрын
Is there a reason you didn't pick up your Mini Boss Schematic Cache?
@1kulik
@1kulik Жыл бұрын
Try to focus on energy dmg and use mainly towers and smash with added teddy instead of having whole build based on teddy?
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames Жыл бұрын
If I'm gonna be that active there are stronger builds
@1kulik
@1kulik Жыл бұрын
@@xMistaBeastxGames just saying why people enjoy cyberclops. They are using build to increase energy dmg overall instead of teddy. This video is just focused on wrong part of the build.
@TheHandThatMocked
@TheHandThatMocked Жыл бұрын
“Mmmmm watcha sayyyyy.”
@sharlokacool7837
@sharlokacool7837 Жыл бұрын
how does he get fire missions in 160??????
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames Жыл бұрын
recorded last season
@alvaroberts6301
@alvaroberts6301 Жыл бұрын
Does extraterrestrial rio buff traps too?
@teeto6951
@teeto6951 Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to get old glory AC? I can't find him
@origamimasterx2104
@origamimasterx2104 6 ай бұрын
He in the item shop right now
@MekkoWalker
@MekkoWalker 4 ай бұрын
Use cyberclops with an energy 144 ground pounder and what the crowd clearing dude
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like a big nerf to the shotgun
@MekkoWalker
@MekkoWalker 4 ай бұрын
@@xMistaBeastxGames yea ig but it pairs well in my experience but im lvl 140 but yea i know what u mean
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames 4 ай бұрын
@@MekkoWalker If you're having fun it doesn't matter. Damage wise you'd get significantly more out of a dedicated shotgun loadout.
@universpro7741
@universpro7741 8 ай бұрын
Xenon bow with wukong and cyberclops?
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames 8 ай бұрын
There are much better options
@mdsingle3
@mdsingle3 Жыл бұрын
When does ventures end?
@МаркоЛоза
@МаркоЛоза Жыл бұрын
June 21 or 22
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames Жыл бұрын
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UOCfWQxMgdrjnf3TbUu3N3Dynx8eaSTG_-ThrO6SF-M/edit#gid=0
@lukys6778
@lukys6778 Жыл бұрын
Skin or set name???
@IIx-SAQY-IIx
@IIx-SAQY-IIx Жыл бұрын
so what’s the best build then
@МаркоЛоза
@МаркоЛоза Жыл бұрын
May be he is the best for teddy, but teddy is not the best ability... Decoy, Goin' Commando, R.O.S.I.E., Shock Tower, Lefty and Righty, even rossie - are much more stronger on top levels.
@IIx-SAQY-IIx
@IIx-SAQY-IIx Жыл бұрын
@@МаркоЛоза thanks bro
@romanreigns5796
@romanreigns5796 Жыл бұрын
@@МаркоЛозаif teddy is better than goin commando spitfire in lower PLs, then why is teddy worse in higher PLs?
@lolsaidthescorpionlmao
@lolsaidthescorpionlmao Жыл бұрын
They butchered teddy builds with the hero rework and never cared to buff them again, I can't blame them though they used to make any other build irrelevant.
@spookyreaper1702
@spookyreaper1702 Жыл бұрын
Teddy is really strong in canny and lower but higher up imo it’s useless
@МаркоЛоза
@МаркоЛоза Жыл бұрын
Even on lower pl you can use lots of other heroes more easy and effectively than teddy. Electro-pulse Penny and Thunder Thora makes mission on 108pl SOLO AFK without traps! Swamp Knight with Trick And Treat team perk can kill everything just staying on one place and doing nothing )))
@zee.x2359
@zee.x2359 Жыл бұрын
Wheres azea clark
@KitsuneFutekina
@KitsuneFutekina Жыл бұрын
HELLO BEAST!!!!!
@yourin8er
@yourin8er Жыл бұрын
Playing as an outlander and not punching. Crazy and a waste of a gun.
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames Жыл бұрын
Punching? That's gonna save this build?
@shawntraverse3762
@shawntraverse3762 Жыл бұрын
Punching? Lmfao that isn't a damage ability! Yrs ago you could make a Punching build and would kill husks but useless now
@xxthe80skidxx11
@xxthe80skidxx11 Жыл бұрын
BENZ WARCRY!!
@lamborghinileglock
@lamborghinileglock Жыл бұрын
Honestly Cyberclops is not really a team player... you deal so much damage, it just kills everything and leaves your other teammates with 0 combat stats at the end of the game.
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames Жыл бұрын
man did not watch the video did he
@Complex_7
@Complex_7 Жыл бұрын
Make shorts again
@billkohnen5399
@billkohnen5399 Жыл бұрын
Take Jilly out put Azalea Clark in.
@xMistaBeastxGames
@xMistaBeastxGames Жыл бұрын
doesn't save it though
@Your_a_idiot
@Your_a_idiot Жыл бұрын
New br season tmrw
@Kurumi_Tokisaki_Is_Mine
@Kurumi_Tokisaki_Is_Mine Жыл бұрын
they should add a new area in stw (sw, pt, cv, tp.)
@Complex_7
@Complex_7 Жыл бұрын
Not love lobbers
@x_zero-ice_4652
@x_zero-ice_4652 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@Jonha-bx5dq
@Jonha-bx5dq Жыл бұрын
I love you
@KTS_God
@KTS_God Жыл бұрын
Ayy 11 mins ago😂😂❤
@OgMiguelBtw
@OgMiguelBtw Жыл бұрын
4th🎉
@cuhhh_gang
@cuhhh_gang Жыл бұрын
First
@demongameryeet
@demongameryeet Жыл бұрын
Overrated hero
@МаркоЛоза
@МаркоЛоза Жыл бұрын
It is really cool hero!!! 😎 But don`t think you can spam only Taddy and be cool ))) teddy is weakly ability 👎 Try it with Xenon bow loadout or Deatomizer, Plasmatic, etc! And it is super support for Diecast Jonsey, Subzero Zenith, Carbide, Stoneheart Farrah etc!😎
@demongameryeet
@demongameryeet Жыл бұрын
But with any bow why not use farrah? Or demo penny with a launcher 🤨
@МаркоЛоза
@МаркоЛоза Жыл бұрын
@@demongameryeet nobody told it is the best hero )) but it is interesting. Not as teddy master (for me). For example if i have a daily quest for multiple kills i can do it using defenders on stormshield, but also i can go in any mission (low level) and become a mass murder using any energy weapon )
@demongameryeet
@demongameryeet Жыл бұрын
@@МаркоЛоза what...?
@МаркоЛоза
@МаркоЛоза Жыл бұрын
@@demongameryeet any energy weapon become aoe weapon with Cyberclops zaps
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