I Tried Ditching My Tesla (so you won't have to)

[@Thetm-t7h]

If Miles goes out of the US, will he be called 'Meters"?

[@sam..18238]

He will be kilometers

[@Anichepod]

Internet is still fun because of people like you!

[@chiroyce]

kilometres ofc

[@Denit.]

metres* (thats how we spell it outside the US)

[@kearabetswemngomezulu5547]

😂

[@aerosw1ft]

Jono: "the i4 is for a younger me. I'm more mature now" Also Jono: "yeah this thing only got 400hp, not for me"

[@armandsolermarti4349]

Not sure if you're from the US, they are OBSESSED with hp there compared to ROW

[@favagephage3419]

😂😂too real man

[@rollingtroll]

"You only have about fourhundred something horsepower". You guys definitely lost all sense of reality. But this was a great video.

[@kevinnoonan3583]

Agreed!

[@koivvisto]

It's in the context, and in this case that is "only". Many relatively affordable electric cars have beyond 400hp.

[@rollingtroll]

yeaaah, but they do make it sound like some of these are “slow” 😁

[@chiroyce]

100% - the Lucid was the perfect car, literally fixed problems from the Model S such as the better interior, more rear room, and Apple CarPlay and these people still go "ONLY 400HP :((" like bruh what is this reality

[@gixxerbrah4100]

my truck has 150 lol

[@BlindMango]

"The Lexus does EV all the way, then it goes to gas". Well yeah, because you're in EV mode, there's a button down by the shifter where you can switch it to HV mode lol

[@Syrinx-Priest]

Thank you! It’s not like they hide it. I couldn’t believe that was the criticism. I had a Rav4 Prime, and in town I would stay in EV mode as much as possible, but as soon as I hit the highway, one button press would have me running like a regular hybrid.

[@alwaysiyi272]

I was just going to say this lol, seems like they left it in EV mode, but if you switch it to hybrid mode, it acts just like any other hybrid car lol

[@CheckYourSpec]

At this price I'd be looking at a Taycan as well.

[@AdamJakowenko]

Me too but he wanted a spacious feeling interior so he'd definitely nix the Taycan

[@xelaander8429]

Range is shite on those ones, and the new model ones with the better batteries and increased range are too new, haven't started depreciating yet

[@tiagoarodrigues]

Usually I really like your opinions, but Tesla has better interiors than i4? Like what?

[@mario.spencer]

exactly

[@jrisner6535]

More space

[@ettcha]

I mean, we are talking about a person's preference. For him, its the best and that's fine

[@BCJDM]

People who are new to Luxury cars and have that new money don't really know what a real luxury car experience is or should be. The BMW has undeniably a better more luxurious interior, it has higher quality materials, different tones and colors to break it up and has better insulation from nvh. For a lot of Tesla drivers luxury is having a big "open/empty" interior with minimal buttons, touchscreens and gimmicky steering wheels. The term luxury doesnt really mean what it once did. People call Tesla's "Luxury" or high end because they have to justify the price tag.

[@nojen7131]

I’ll take the smooth iPad Pro in the Tesla interior over the cheap junk tablet that BMW bought from alibaba.

[@ZRO777]

Yall drive 90+ on a school zone too? Panels!!!

[@Ade5]

Does it really matter if you have 400 bhp or 800 bhp.. You certainly know that you dont have autobahn in the US right..

[@ettcha]

They may not be allowed to cruise at full power, but it comes in handy for merging, safe overtaking, accelerating out of danger, rare towing and recreational use ie track days.

[@Ade5]

@@ettcha Everything over 300 bhp is very safe for overtaking, merging and everyday driving..

[@greefire_]

@@ettchaah yes you definitely need 800 hp for safety 🤣

[@ettcha]

@@Ade5 sure, just dont underestimate the recreational and enthusiast alure of more horsepower for American market

[@ettcha]

@@greefire_ I admit, it's funny, maybe even counter intuitive, but I've been in a situation as a passenger where that crazy near instant acceleration saved us from a crash. You don't need all the horses all the time, but they are nice to have in that instant where a split second counts? 🤷🏾‍♂

[@Dave-zz9fk]

Where the hell do you guys get your calibration of performance. No one needs 400 hp in a urban vehicle. FFS get a grip.

[@Swapnil638]

For EVs I assume it’s different because meeting an increasing top speed specification requires adding power more exponentially so compared to a gas car. That’s because of how heavy batteries are, and because addition of power exponentially requires addition of more batteries because individual cells have power output limits, while the pack’s power can be increased by adding cells. And the heavier the pack gets, the heavier the body needs to get to support the pack, especially if the pack isn’t structural.

[@danielhanslik4112]

@@Swapnil638 Aren't more powerfull cumbustion engines also heavier than those with less power?

[@Swapnil638]

@ The weight goes up with addition of power in all cars but it’s more exponential with EVs, at least with current battery tech. Aside from upgrading the motors, inverters, etc, you also have to add more cells to the pack to provide more pack output.

[@parthpatel8532]

"Lexus goes all ev till battery dies, then gas." - isnt that the point of a hybrid?

[@Syrinx-Priest]

Also, I’m pretty sure you can press a button and tell it to use both, or even to use the gas engine to charge the battery. I know he’s not used to buttons, but maybe try changing the setting before assuming it forces you to drive in electric all the time.

[@jamesfilms_]

If you amend that to plug-in hybrids, yes, many are able to be driven on EV only power for daily commutes, but they certainly shouldn't have to be, and the engine should kick on if extra power is required, or for sustained high speeds, and other reasons. I'd be surprised to find out the Lexus doesn't do this, hopefully they just had some EV only mode on. However mild hybrids absolutely aren't designed to be used like that.

[@jaceshelton6111]

12:25 the bee is a paid actor

[@ethanmenzel]

Jono has been in more videos than he was in at LTT

[@Huppol-l4t]

Lots of talk about the model S having more horsepower, while in practice you’ll almost never use it. I mean, the chassis of the model S is lacking so much there is no fun in having 700hp except for a straight line 1 time a year party trick.

[@efrainfjr]

Blah blah blah... of course he's keeping the Tesla.

[@bipulpandey2115]

thanks will not watch it then

[@robotinreallife]

Exactly lol. There's like 100 reasons why people don't go back from a Tesla.

[@Arnoudiux]

Thanks, 14 mins saved

[@niiayimensahlartey427]

😂😂😂😂

[@Extrophobic]

Well he had a good reason, he liked the Lucid pure but because it's hard to insure he didn't buy it

[@reallynotmuffin]

And this my friend... Is why you don't take car advice from a tech person... Smh

[@liarus]

I mean, if anything, this just shows that this guy's tesla kept his value to him, and still satisfies his needs even years later

[@doriansimon1873]

we need the EV roadrip back.

[@luc1ddaemon]

Why not any Hyundai or Kia? They give a ton back in rebates if you lease, making it actually obtainable for the majority of people. I got $19k, that was a mix from state and manufacturer rebate.

[@xelaander8429]

Like what models? The ioniq 5?

[@brandon_zng]

“if you lease” that’s a big nono for a lot of people

[@JoshuaKoerner]

I think this video is a great example of why you don’t give people that don’t know anything about megaphone. Jonno may be a nice guy, and I respect his decisions, but calling the BMW less luxurious and calling out the physical buttons as a problem is *insane.* I know my man hosting knows his stuff. His own channel is excellent. I think the car content MKBHD and related channels have put together is a weakness of the portfolio. Shows the skill that others bring to the table is skill, not just having an opinion.

[@Dref137]

Quite the opposite, I think it’s good to have regular people who just want to drive a car share their opinions on why they own or don’t own certain cars. It’s clear he wanted the Lucid but insurance costs came into play, and those are the day by day things that you consider, among other things 😅 Also, it’s the studio channel, everyone in the studio has to contribute to the content. You won’t want to see Jonno open a spreadsheet and start breaking down MKBHD numbers

[@jsonlee01]

The conclusion was confusing. The graph of the Lucid showing how it beat the Tesla in all categories plus an icon with thumbs up. Then Jonno said he and the wife were crunching the numbers for the Lucid but the insurance was a lot more but they really wanted the car. It would have been good to have them recap all the cars and have Jonno giving his final decision like a House Hunters episode.

[@criticalevent]

I think I'm just tired of seeing shameless Tesla shills gaslight us about literally every other car.

[@ildrichaseron]

As a BMW guy, I see Tesla like Apple. Sure, there are many different options out there and the driving dynamics may not be the best, but the fact everything just works makes it hard to leave the ecosystem. Sure, my BMW drives better but my Tesla is a much better daily driver.

[@wazzafc10]

Driver dynamics may not be the best...lol

[@OLS20]

I feel like apple and tesla is a horrible comparison

[@Samsonfs]

I tried crushing Elon musk with a hydraulic press so you don't have to!

[@CateChapelle]

But I'd really like to try it myself

[@wobblysauce]

Unless you are on the run, you don't need sub 3sec 0-60's, day to day it gets you nowhere.

[@Oiler182]

but it gets you nowhere fast...

[@AXXXXA]

That Lucid looks amazing ! Teslas are ugly and dated looking and have been for years.

[@nanivogel4453]

That shot with the charging port opening and a fly hovering over is so cool 12:30

[@sdsd4139]

"There's more to life than treating your car like a toaster" Sorry MKBHD folks, personal finance discipline >> feeding the auto lobby. Buy a Honda or Toyota, top off your retirement accounts, and keep the bank account full.

[@darkkforest]

You're the man

[@Daphoid]

Some of the recent cars featured on Short Circuit would've been fun. Alex's seemed pretty fond of them :)

[@jaughnekow]

that lucid looks sleek

[@jumbocube]

I honestly find it disgusting that these cars need to mention they have android auto, apple car, whatever to be a selling point. You should have options as default in every modern car. Also I hate that real buttons are a thing of the past, instead they just do a giant slab of glass and in every car the UI is more garbage than the previous...

[@CalebPerez]

Agreed. When Jono complained about all the switches and buttons in the BMW I was so confused.

[@jaimykok6533]

​@@CalebPerez He is just your typical Tesla customer. They see buttons as a step back and as 'clutter'. I guess they really should live with a car that has buttons for a bit to see what they are missing out on.

[@vbtwo31984]

I have a Rivian now, don’t miss a car with lots of buttons. I have always just had AC set to a temperature and auto mode so not sure why you need physical controls to mess with it all the time. I agree that regular physical moving vents are better than on screen controlled ones though. I don’t need a button to turn on/off traction control, I don’t need a button to turn on/off auto hold, I don’t need a button to turn on/off engine start stop. I don’t need a button to switch drive modes. I don’t understand why all these are quick press buttons in most cars, who is this person that messes with any of that stuff in the middle of driving that they need quick access to that?

[@CalebPerez]

@@vbtwo31984 remember we were talking about a Tesla, where there’s no turn signal stalk, no D/R/P lever, wiper control, headlight control,etc. Rivian makes better trade off decisions. Personally, I also want physical buttons for drive mode, lock, and heated seats. I also like the option of a physical control dial for the interface. BMW has a nice feature where you can add a physical shortcut for any software feature by long pressing the 0-9 keys.

[@Hans_appointed]

I’m dumb. I read the title “I drove my Tesla into a ditch so you won’t have to”

[@prospersikhwari5289]

You are not dumb

[@mayankkaloliya8249]

The guy with an android phone trying to convince the guy with an iphone to switch.

[@dimsulst]

Nowadays it's more fun to watch mkbhd's comment sections then the videos itself 😂

[@supernova1163]

"only" 400hp how is that your gauge of performance? Imagine not doing research, and realising the lexus is in ev only mode.

[@9to5high]

Am I the only one who thought you were gonna literally try to steer the car off the road? The title made me think that because of the thumbnail and title combo (so you don't have to) also sounds like youre testing the cars ability to steer you back on the road.

[@ettcha]

I was right there with you😂

[@philipp594]

I like the lucid, but it’s like buying a fisker. You don’t know what you have in 5 years.

[@LeviChripczuk]

Love your videos! The Lucid is definitely the way to go.

[@GabrielParadelo]

Great job comparing options!

[@FrozenDung]

i4 is super compact and you feel claustrophobic is an absolute crazy opinion

[@nisargthakur]

11:41 what site is that?

[@broimnotyourbro]

Model S is legit the automotive deal of the century right now. At $120K a Plaid was overpriced... but a used Plaid with 20K miles for $45K - which you can find all day - is more car than you've ever been able to buy for that price.

[@Yojimboi]

Really cool video concept!

[@Sebastian001]

So he's a Tesla boy and thats it, cause he just doesnt have real points of staying on Tesla. Im sure he doesn't race his car everyday, so why does he need so much horsepower. Also luxury is not two screens and some fake white leather

[@Mergatroid]

why anyone would own a tesla still baffles me. joke of a company with the ceo being one of the worst people alive. shameful to own anything from them.

[@Jsameds]

Upset Donnie won, huh?

[@AdamJakowenko]

​@@JsamedsProbably, but in fairness, most people have been saying that about Elon for a few years now cuz objectively he's pretty much a looney toon. He's the reason my last 5 cars have been EVs, but he's also the reason none of them have been Teslas 🤷‍♂️

[@Jsameds]

@@AdamJakowenko He was a darling of the left until he started supporting free speech, at which point he became their enemy

[@Jsameds]

⁠”for a few years” what happened that changed their mind?

[@ciaran_2693]

@@Jsameds enjoy project 2025

[@FlorianLinscheid]

Where is the overlap of people who must consider if they have the money for buying a $600 or $800 phone and therefore watch many reviews and people who buy $60000 cars? The studio channel can experiment with different topics and hosts and I think that’s great, but I can’t tell you how unrelatable this video felt to me.

[@Gameerz]

I laughed so hard when Jono set, This is Miles better, just passed the game lol,

[@oxrick1.080]

1:36 Miles mhh sound like a wrong answer buzzer

[@Swapnil638]

For those wondering why the ridiculous power figures: I assume the requirement is different for EVs because meeting an increasing top speed specification requires adding power more exponentially so compared to a gas car. That’s because of how heavy batteries are, and because addition of power exponentially requires addition of batteries because individual cells have power output limits, while the pack’s power can be increased by adding cells. And the heavier the pack gets, the heavier the body needs to get to support the pack, especially if the pack isn’t structural.

[@REVIEWSONTHERUN]

Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

[@MohammedChowdhry]

This video is so crispy...that quality 🔥

[@astro-snake]

I think it's the value where Tesla takes it

[@Uchejnr]

10000000% People can hate teslas for whatever reason. But as a total package, the cars are simply class leading. Fantastic EV's that are becoming even better cars. Car enthusiasts need to remember they are the MINORITY when it comes to people driving cars on the road so don't be vexed if you keep seeing the chrome T on the streets. It's for the obvious reason that the average person sees Tesla as a solid car

[@faizmulla9414]

Love how you ended the video there Miles! These machines do indeed have souls!

[@michael2col]

The studio should make a “what’s on my phone” video

[@Malford]

What difference does performance between most of these cars make in actual life? Like 0-60 of anything less than 10 seconds is fast enough to do anything you actually need to do

[@RileyBanksWho]

Ive owned a P100d from 2017-2023. I loved my Tesla but only because of the acceleration and clean interior. Last year, I finally switched to a 2023 X5 45e and im glad I made that decision. Teslas are fun if you just want acceleration and a minimalistic interior, but theres just no emotion in that brand imo. I grew up driving Mercedes ONLY, but bmw has won my heart last year😊

[@adityakapoor8055]

The BMW has "full self-driving capability"? Huh?!

[@ryanwest1164]

Yes…. Thank you the studio… now I know whether to give up my Tesla… that I definitely have

[@jagpreetsingh3221]

That bee was approving the EV.

[@rolandoq]

There are only three reasonable alternatives to Tesla: BYD, Geely Group, and Hyundai/Kia. That is it. Anything else is overpriced bloat, at least until R2 and R3 arrive.

[@bromotion]

Lets Goooo NEW VID!!!

[@Iffy50]

I'm toying around with getting an EV when the winter ends. I looked at a few options, but I have a friend with a non-Tesla EV and she says that the charging network is not good. The non-Tesla charging stations are very unreliable, some are very slow, some are broken. I watched a video where the "Dragtimes (KZbin channel)" had a Rimac Nevara and the car is awesome, but his charging experience was horrendous.

[@MarshallBroo]

The video editor for this channel is definitely a different one than the main channel

[@prospersikhwari5289]

In a good or bad way?

[@MattBrunt]

Jono really on that copium to justify his Tesla purchase while making absolutely ridiculous wants for horsepower and dissing actual buttons in a car where tactile over screen is much safer and quicker. What a waste of time this video was.

[@josiahnieves]

as someone who has no money and cant afford a tesla or any car, I'd say that those cars are amazing

[@MyOnlyAliasYT]

thought i was watching the credits for an episode of Make Some Noise on Dropout for a second when the music kicked in at 1:43 lol

[@px0v]

Jono? Was he not working for LTT for a while?

[@MWM1293]

New here?

[@ettcha]

They stole him right out of LTT's hands! But yes, he's been with MKBHD for a while now

[@IsDitGerben]

Mates, could you include Nm for torquestats as well for everybody who’s not from the USA? This lb-ft doesn’t make any sense

[@jackmansfield9319]

I’m curious Miles, what’s your take on the polestars? They seem fairly solid, but I wouldn’t know

[@ak_hoops]

Man you car people can be insufferable. Nothing matters outside of what he wants. This is actually a dope video with nice comparison options. And can manage.

[@ab_31000]

For innovative & spacious interior design. I'll take the new 2025 Zeekr Mix

[@kerethlewis5280]

Miles is the only petrol head at that company Don't @ me

[@DavidOz316]

You don't think Marques is? With his daily driver?

[@kerethlewis5280]

@DavidOz316 no, he's just realized what a combustion can do for the soul

[@OLS20]

@@DavidOz316marques isn’t a petrol head. Petrol head is a very very enthusiast petrol car guy. Mkbhd loves electric, and only just started getting into other cars. I mean he meant Nico rosberg a couple years ago and didn’t even realise who he was. I do like how he is trying to learn more though

[@umeshgallage9347]

The Lexus did EV design right. the front grills are the worst in EVs. This actually look great.

[@bruhder5854]

Wait when did jono jump ship from LTT?

[@jackdawson1054]

which car were you driving in the honking truck guy story?

[@jethro6001]

have you guys heard about the BYD car brands? it is heavily famous in the asia

[@MarleyTravels]

The complaint about the Lexus being EV until it runs the battery down is my number 1 complaint with the RAV4 Prime. Why Toyota thinks that is a good model is anyone's guess. Personally I'd like to be able to define a miles per kWh threshold, and if the vehicle is consistently above that number it runs on battery when available, if it is below that number it should switch to hybrid. In general, while Toyota/Lexus has great hardware, their software kinda sucks. This is just one example.

[@alwaysiyi272]

That’s exactly how the car works. When starting off, it will default to EV mode just like most hybrids do. if you have enough charge, it will basically run the battery down to its minimum state cos that’s the most fuel efficient way, The only way the gas engine turns on in hybrid mode is if you command full throttle by holding down the accelerator. Now if you put the vehicle in its EV mode, it is just going to use the battery no matter what, even if you command for full power, the gas engine won’t turn on. Understanding the modes is very beneficial in Toyota/Lexus plug-in hybrids. Plus plug-in hybrids are about gas mitigation not gas replacement.

[@MarleyTravels]

@@alwaysiyi272 I'm very much aware that this is the way it works, and no it is not the most efficient if you want to maximize range. Electric is much better at lower speeds, gas is better at higher speeds. My RAV4 prime estimates miles per kW hour on the fly. If it would switch to gas in Auto mode when that number drops below say 2.5, I could save my battery for when it is the most useful. I end up doing the switching myself manually, except when I forget and run my battery down on a long road trip after a stop. While I'm complaining, the fact that you can't change the default startup mode is also annoying. I love the hardware of my RAV4 Prime, but the software is frankly marginal. It lacks features, is stupid at times and buggy. Want to lock the doors while in room mode? It won't let you do that, which is a PITA when car camping. Actually there is a work around for that. The key in the FOB can be used to lock the doors manually, but I'm sure Toyota will figure out a way to break that in a future software update. Then there is the rear hatch. Want to open the rear hatch while in park? NOPE, can't do that. On the bug side, I've had the adaptive cruise control refuse to come on, the electric charging lock malfunction and refuse to release the charging cable, followed by fifteen minutes of locking, unlocking and fiddling until the security system finally decided I could remove the plug, start my car and be on my way. Sometimes the remote climate on/off fails for no apparent reason when I have good coverage, the list goes on and on.

[@neodidi]

2:54... How many Miles a day, do you drive. I drive 56 Miles 😁😁😁 a day.. That's a lot of Miles 😂😂😂.. If you get this, we both need help 😂😂😂 Just for laughs guys.. 😂😂

[@exzacklyright]

Full self driving is whatever!!? 🤷‍♂️ It's a game changer!!

[@RockyC33]

2:23 nice pun there!

[@doomy_doomy2225]

Ah rich people shopping for rich people cars.

[@OLS20]

These two are not rich

[@vvjk8]

9:48 Bro looks soo SMOL inside 😂 Edit: yep nvm he just sat inside the frunk and closed it 💀

[@HereAndTher3]

He's a big guy and sounds like he just wants a big, spacious car. He's driving a full-size Model S currently and you stuffed him in a compact i4? Why not show him and i7 or iX?

[@prospersikhwari5289]

I’m guessing price

[@niiayimensahlartey427]

Not Miles drifting 😂

[@danielt91]

Are you guys setting up a blind smartphone camera voting site this year? 😢

[@adeniyiseriki461]

Fantastic Video. Best Team on KZbin! MKBHD. Congratulations for buying Marques Tesla looks super new and well maintained

[@vishnudwivedi2820]

I absolutely love Miles and the content he brings for MKBHD

[@LunaNyaVT]

Tesla is great if you like simplicity ❤

[@doudymac]

I already knew there was gonna be a BMW in there. 😁

[@maxwellrobinson2924]

Lmao bruh, NO ONE even comes close to Tesla for full self driving lmao that statement at the beginning was a joke.

[@SamRiesgo]

LOVED this video, I want more of this!!!

[@santoshparvatikar]

If I did not hit on anybody, it is only because I have a literal blind spot in my eye or eyes.

[@chaquator]

charging infrastructure for non tesla EVs have still not caught up, still a few years out

[@BBingo-v5i]

Nah, since 800V is the future and it arrives with a big swing in 2025 to Western markets in more mid-size vehicles, Teslas superchargers are totally outdated and unusable. Why stick with old tech. Does not only count for the chargers but for Tesla's lineup as well. So many tech and comfort features are missing, the exterior and interior design is outdated, suspension and ride quality is mediocre at best. In addition the brand just comes across as vile and fake

[@emmanuelogunlana877]

​@@BBingo-v5iYou come off has just hating Teslas.

[@Aztasu]

@@emmanuelogunlana877 He's right tho

[@chaquator]

@@BBingo-v5i but how many of these chargers are nearby for you to charge on a weekly basis? coverage is the important factor here.

[@greefire_]

I like the BMW

[@suryakrishna4662]

love the thumbnail lol

[@ethanpowell3203]

You had me up until the Lexus 😂

[@chancelord8052]

I think I disagreed with every opinion you guys had in this video 😂

[@andreipop1]

Why do you need 800hp? 400 is decent, with a good range. It's at a point where a normal driver does not know how to handle 800 plus hp. And 4 seconds to 100km/h (60mp) is not a fast car is a bit out of touch with reality.

[@ionlydofilm]

Why he's keeping the Tesla Model S? Read the explanation below 👇🏼

[@ionlydofilm]

Explanation

[@SoundHoundStudios999]

lol I see the ear asmr mic in the backseat

[@Typerist]

ev advancements makes me excited!

[@Techforthebrain]

Amazing vid

[@example0306]

First time watching any video on this channel, and this feels shit as hell. This Tesla owner just uses whatever lame excuses to justify his Tesla is the better than the actual carmaker.