props for shutting down all those pseudo-optimizations and showing what really works
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
Just doing what had to be done a long time ago, thanks for watching!
@yhiz47572 күн бұрын
U should test the difference between a regular windows install and a debloated windows install using a tool like Chris Titus utils
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Brilliant idea! I'll be on it ASAP, ty
@peterpanda7475Күн бұрын
I'm using AtlasOS, wonder if that also changes anything 🤔
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
@@peterpanda7475 I have tried AtlasOS briefly in the past, just to see what it's all about, a comparison video (Custom OS vs Windows 11/10) will be coming soon so stay tuned! 👏
@DmitryT-f7sКүн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabsthat’s great, thank you, but those custom ISOs are a little bit scarier to run compared to the Windows 10/11 LTSC versions or those from Chris Titus
@AkaraVortexКүн бұрын
For what I've tested there is no measurable difference, from optimized win 10 to standard win 11, really the only notable difference is disabling defender and couple of services.
@BargateКүн бұрын
I'd say anything that is like 0.5% to 2% could literally be margin of error as well. It's pretty hard to test exactly the same every single time in game. How you move the camera could affect it even if you try to use the same spot
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
I've tested each multiple times to try and avoid that, but obviously you could be right as every run is different and a 1% difference is tiny
@carlkitchenКүн бұрын
Important note about hyperthreading and e-cores: It's highly depended on the software/game as to whether you'll see a gain or a ~loss~. Can even depend on which processor you have as lower core count/less capable chips will suffer more with them disabled. Some high end chips with multiple core complexes can see reduces performance because the number of used cores is splitting across them incurring a latency penalty (or using the wrong cache on X3D models). And more games seem to have a gain with them on than ones that gain with it off (hence why they are on by default). So at bare minimum you should test each game you play and decide from there. If you're not sure then it's generally better to just leave it on as even windows and the multiple programs & services that you might run in the background would benefit from being on.
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Well said, the games I tested are Valorant, Fortnite, CS2, and can confirm they benefit from it being off on an 14th gen intel i5 running Windows 11 24h2. Anything different (as in game, or cpu), please test it and see how it works for you, or better yet, use Process Lasso and only set specific games to use physical cores while having HT/SMT enabled for other apps/games - next time I'll mention it in the video to help make things clear. Thank you Carl!
@a4k0sanКүн бұрын
u should almost never disable hyper threading
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
If you really dont want to disable hyperthreading - thats fine. You can literally set your game to run only on physical cores using Process Lasso and see if it benefits from it! I'll make a separate video regarding this very soon. Thank you
@PedroAndrade25Күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs A in-depth Process Lasso guide would be very much appreciated.
@ATom-jm2jwКүн бұрын
you should almost always disable hyper threading actually. Nowadays it's just a marketing technology. General consumer doesn't need >3 cores at all. Only rare games utilize multiple cores and even then it still could sometimes be better without HT. The only downside is HP disables Sleep Mode
@user-vk2cd9qw7i5 сағат бұрын
@@ATom-jm2jw I have high multi core utilization when gaming. More games than you'd think do utilize multiple cores, but typically not fully. The main benefit is that people very rarely have only their game running. A browser, discord, teamspeak, etc are almost always open for me, plus others sometimes as well.
@griffin1366Сағат бұрын
Unless you have a 6C/12T CPU or stream / video edit, it's not needed anymore.
Күн бұрын
Those thumbnails may only be true when switching to high performance mode in a gaming laptop that had some kind of power saving feature still enabled, but most are still fake results. You should've also tested Resizable BAR ON vs OFF but other than that, I like that you kept the video short (
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Thanks! I decided to leave resizable bar on vs off for another video in which we'll test it in more graphically demanding games, I got you! :) (I actually did test it in cs2/fortnite/valorant before, but didnt make a difference for my system in those games, in case you're wondering)
@BargateКүн бұрын
Even then the only way you're getting a 500% uplift on a gaming laptop if is your GPU literally off and your CPU is heavily downclocking itself like if it's on eco mode. Most balanced options still run the GPU and CPU at decent speeds just not max but that wouldn't result in 500% extra FPS. It's still heavily misleading in my opinion because no laptop is going to default eco mode while plugged in unless the user knows the settings and does it manually.
@slotddTech4 күн бұрын
Dang, earned a sub, great quality, thought you had atleast 100k
@FrameSyncLabs4 күн бұрын
Glad you liked it and ty for subbing ❤
@zachariah65142 күн бұрын
I think you may have just solved alot of issues for me that i have had with my system for YEARS, i will be back here after trying these tomorrow and will edit my comment and speak on some results. Cant wait for the video you are planning on making for intels p and e cores etc. subbed! 🎉
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
Would love to know how it went for you, thanks for the sub!
@Y3ZFLY2 сағат бұрын
I loved the part where you ignored shitty timer resolution
@lvSapphire2 күн бұрын
great content bro keep this up
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@ThePhenoix504FI3D12 күн бұрын
The graph doesn't allign with what you narrated 4:14 You meant enabling it will gain performance right?
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
@@ThePhenoix504FI3D1 That's an oopsie on my side hahah! I labelled them wrong - Hardware Prefetcher OFF gains performance. Good catch, ty!
@ThePhenoix504FI3D12 күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs no problem man, great video overall
@SojournOneTRICK2 күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs uuh
@suryanshpundir617922 минут бұрын
You didnt talk about virtualisation from bios i guess which gave me a significant boost. This turns core isolation off but only turning off virtualisation from bios does that and not from security centre.
@meesam42015 сағат бұрын
Subbed! excellent straight forward info!
@FrameSyncLabs15 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much!
@zer0mhw908Күн бұрын
Quick tip for Nvidia users, if the person recording the tutorial opens the Nvidia control panel you can close the video
@ADepressedGuy-l1p22 сағат бұрын
Please elaborate
@Rayjacker15 сағат бұрын
@@ADepressedGuy-l1p Unless it's to make sure you're running on your Nvidia GPU (i.e. on laptops), most changes do effectively nothing and you are better off leaving them on default settings. Things like texture filtering and antialiasing are configured in your games so it is pointless to do it in your driver.
@FrameSyncLabs14 сағат бұрын
So glad I didn't open the control panel in this video haha. However, it's there for a reason, right? Not all nvidia control panel settings are bad, some actually do help if you know what you're doing. At the same time, I do feel you, because as soon as you see the control panel pop up, you know it's gonna be the same settings from 10 years ago that someone just copy-pasted over to their vid, oh well.
@zer0mhw90813 сағат бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs indeed, most recent games dont even accept the changes you do in there, also i love when they tell you do drag the slider to the magical "performance mode"
@zer0mhw90813 сағат бұрын
@@ADepressedGuy-l1p Ray said pretty much all there's to it, also "performance mode" does not get you more fps, it only makes you gpu boost clock always be maxed out
@pim43312 сағат бұрын
Great vid mate!
@skrazzo8039Күн бұрын
Awesome content, thank you for the warnings and quick explanations, really put my morning coffee on the next level
@FrameSyncLabs20 сағат бұрын
Nothing better than a morning coffee with some good ol' optimization videos, glad you enjoy it, and thank you
@VizzythongКүн бұрын
Got a question what about the high precision event timer in device manager enable or disable? thank you
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
I personally had much worse performance with it enabled, but HPET is a tricky "tweak" so I'll make a separate video about it in the next couple of weeks.
@VizzythongКүн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs Thanks
@BeatmasterAC20 сағат бұрын
according to the OBS Admins, if you want to stream / record propperly, Game mode should be turned on (at least on Win10). The timer Resolution is also mainly for recording and streaming. You can see the difference when using LatencyMon. Reflex: did you turn it off on the Control Panel / Driver and/or in Game (CS2)?
@FrameSyncLabs20 сағат бұрын
I can't argue with the OBS devs/admins - if they say /their/ app works better with game mode ON, then please make sure you enable it while using OBS. The timer resolution changes shown in LatencyMon are in MICROseconds (1000us = 1ms), so I'm still skeptical about the "usefulness" of timer res... might have to test further to confirm. By Nvidia Reflex I meant the In-Game setting in Valorant, CS2 and Fortnite mainly, not the low latency mode in nvidia control panel, sorry for not making it clear! :)
@BeatmasterAC20 сағат бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs all good, thx for the clarification.
@_unix.2 күн бұрын
should i turn off SMT in the bios fort gaming and it is the same thing as hyper threading but with AMD ?
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
Hi unix, yes, its the equivalent of Hyperthreading for AMD
@F0rland_12 сағат бұрын
What version of Windows are you on when you are doing the tests?
@FrameSyncLabs12 сағат бұрын
It's Windows 11 24h2. Forgot to mention in the video, I aplogize!
@godsbattleКүн бұрын
Great video brother !
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
@@godsbattle Tysm bro, glad you like it!
@dal28042 күн бұрын
How do you disable e cores?
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
Restart your PC and spam the "Del" or F2 key to enter the BIOS, there you'll find E-cores so you can disable them, have in mind only Intel CPUs have efficiency cores at the moment.
@dal28042 күн бұрын
@ in my asus motherboard i tried looking for the e cores option and yet i still dont see them😞
@mashuyzКүн бұрын
@@dal2804 What is your CPU, only 13th gen or higher have E-Cores. If you have good cpu search for option called "Active Efficient Cores".
@BargateКүн бұрын
@dal2804 It's Intel CPUs from 12th gen on. 11th gen and before doesn't have them and 12th gens e cores dont start appearing until 12600. Also if you have the newest 200 intel CPUs there is no hyperthreading at all so there won't be that option.
@charlybeКүн бұрын
Keep in mind you will loose a lot of multi-tasking performance if you disable e-cores in the bios.
@LucyScarlet-m5lКүн бұрын
how gsync should increase the fps? doesnt make sens???
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
I was shocked too, not sure how did that happen, I ran it 3 times to confirm and the result were the same. I'll dig more into it later and try to figure out whats going on :) In the meantime if anyone wants to test it on their system, please do and let me know if it shows the same results!
@kalyas1k16 сағат бұрын
As I understand it, any custom windows settings like reviOs, atlasOs give the same results?
@FrameSyncLabs16 сағат бұрын
@@kalyas1k I will make a separate video about ReviOS and AtlasOS soon, as I think they're the most popular ones right now. Then we'll compare the results to a normal Windows install to figure out whats better
@kalyas1k16 сағат бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs That would be interesting. I used to use atlas os for many years, but lately I'm not even sure whether to stay with it or start using just regular windows.
@griffin1366Сағат бұрын
Yes
@Menle_21Күн бұрын
You are really awesome because you explained everything in a concise way.
@VNSXКүн бұрын
Subscribed , Thanks bro 🗿
@FrameSyncLabs23 сағат бұрын
Always :) Thanks for the sub!
@alb-bosКүн бұрын
How do I enable core parking? Its missing from power management options ...
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
@@alb-bos Im not at home right now, but Im sure you can park/unpark them using an app called "CPUUnpark", hope that helps :)
@mykelneid615213 сағат бұрын
the hardware prefetcher thing is it a mistake that your conclusion is to turn it of while the chart suggests otherwise?
@FrameSyncLabs12 сағат бұрын
Yes, sorry, I accidentally mislabelled the results, OFF is the one that gives a performance boost!
@marcohessel294014 сағат бұрын
hello, would u mind take a screenshot of your nvidia control panel settings? not sure i understood
@FrameSyncLabs14 сағат бұрын
I am currently working on the best nvidia control panel settings video (+ best driver version), so it shouldn't take long before it's uploaded. Please make sure you subscribe and hit the notification bell so you don't miss it - thank you! :) PS: It's not your fault, I just didn't explain the settings as I wanted the video to be as short and to-the-point as possible.
@JackLemmon-w2kКүн бұрын
Excellent no frills video. Really appreciate my time being respected!
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Always! Thanks for watching
@m1rf1x61Күн бұрын
in the video I saw that the revision tool is installed, that is, you use revios, do you use the BCD parameters that are used in the revios playbook? (disable dynamick tick and others
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
In this video I used a clean Windows install (not custom os), I think you mean one of my other videos in which I did use ReviOS. If so, yep, I think I might have, not 100% sure though. Regardless, I'll be making a new video soon comparing custom OS like Revi and Atlas to a regular Windows installation and all the settings used will be shown there :)
@mateo08873Күн бұрын
Hi, can you tell me how do I turn off the e-cores in the bios because I know that would help me alot. Btw i have an Intel i5 12400f and a asus motherboard. I hope you know how to do this. Thankss
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Restart your PC then spam the "Del" or F2 key to get into the BIOS, then in the bios search bar, type e-cores or efficiency cores, there you'll be able to disable them. First check if your processor has e cores, just google it beforehand, hope that helps!
@vlad54rus-a2 сағат бұрын
i5-12400f doesn't have e-cores, so there's nothing for you to disable.
@robbfps24734 сағат бұрын
can you try cpu idle on/off
@juancarlospachecogarcia3722 күн бұрын
hardware prefetcher ON or OFF? You say to disable it, however the graphics show more FPS when you enable it
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
That's my bad, I mislabelled the results, OFF is the one providing a performance boost - just swapped the titles accidentally! 🫣😁
@juancarlospachecogarcia372Күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs and how does disabling it affect inputlag?
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
@@juancarlospachecogarcia372 For me (and others) it definitely makes the mouse movements feel more "raw", it's kind of similar to when you first disable mouse acceleration in Windows (not as pronounced, but still makes a difference). Might take some time getting used to, but give it a try and see if you like it. I'm not exactly sure about the reason as to why it changes the mouse feel, but eventually we'll buy an LDAT or 1000FPS camera in the future so we can test the input lag accurately and get to the bottom of it :)
@b4dmanКүн бұрын
good job, +sub 👍
@FrameSyncLabs23 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much, appreciate it
@madmaster3d18 сағат бұрын
u have any idea for intel 4000 hd fps boost? i saw alot video optimizaiton pack still same sh it
@FrameSyncLabs15 сағат бұрын
Wish I could help, but this is an integrated graphics card and is genuinely not suitable for gaming. I don't personally (and truthfully) think there's much you can do other than buying a laptop (or PC) with a dedicated graphics card.
@caiofabarКүн бұрын
if i dont find hardware prefetcher on my bios, is it the same as disabling the SysMain service?
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
They're different, in simple words: Hardware Prefetcher predicts and prefetches data into the processor's cache before the program requests it. (Disable for most competitive FPS games) SysMain on the other hand, is there to attempt and make the start time of applications faster. (Disable it if you have an SSD)
@laurosalvatore89002 күн бұрын
Do you think I'd benefit from any of these settings on an i7 6700 and a GTX 1050ti? Sitting at 16gb of DDR4 RAM
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
I had a similar PC back in the day on which I used these settings and it still gave me a good boost. Obviously every computer is different, but give it a try :)
@laurosalvatore89002 күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs Tbf I only play Valorant, I noticed that for some reason running windowed fullscreen made the game extremely juddery, overall the other tweaks gave me better responsiveness, but I do feel some worse lows too.
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
Try turning "Optimizations for Windowed Games" on or off, see if that helps and let me know
@laurosalvatore89002 күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs Sadly I'm currently using Windows 10 so that's not available to me.
@Luiene2 күн бұрын
I had a question about power plans with the balanced power plan my cpu clocks 4.07 max and with a different power plan my cpu clocks to 4.21 and higher off of load. should I use the balanced or the other power plan?
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
Whats your CPU? I'll try and see if I can help
@roguemoКүн бұрын
first video i watch from you and you earned a sub ❤ keep it up
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Awesome, thank you! Will do :)
@jotunbjorn16 сағат бұрын
NIce vid. I found that using MSI mode causes stutters in some games so I don't use it.
@FrameSyncLabs15 сағат бұрын
Glad you liked it! There's no "one fits all" tweak, so testing it for yourself was a good call, thanks for the info!
@JAAAPBКүн бұрын
how to know Default Core Parking ?
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Im not on my PC now but you should be able to reset the core parking index using an app such as "CPU Unpark" or "Core Parking Utility". If that doesnt help - let me know and I'll reply when I'm home.
@ms_tf757912 сағат бұрын
Great video it really helped me thank you
@sharkosaurfpsКүн бұрын
what settings did you change in nvidia control panel for high performance?
@FrameSyncLabs15 сағат бұрын
I'm currently making a video that will explain exactly what settings I used, plus the best NVidia driver for gaming. Make sure you're subscribed with the bell on so you don't miss it, ty!
@Raulster16 сағат бұрын
If you have a G-SYNC monitor and play in windowed/windowed borderless, the G-SYNC capability is drastically decrease, G-SYNC only work ideal in Fullscreen/Fullscreen Exclusive. Also I know that in control panel you can choose G-SYNC to use windowed as well but is broken, bugged idk
@FrameSyncLabs15 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the heads up! It could be true... I haven't tried G-Sync in windowed mode personally. Also the G-SYNC bench in this video MIGHT be flawed (I was shocked to see it got me an FPS boost, which it shouldn't) so I'll need to re-test on a lower end system to figure out what's going on.
@vlad54rus-a2 сағат бұрын
With modern games featuring Flip Model Presentation - G-Sync can work in Borderless windowed as good as does in fullscreen mode. Modern GPUs with Multiplane Overlays support also make G-Sync work in non-fullscreen windowed. All that works with Nvidia G-Sync set to "Enable for fullscreen". For "Enable for fullscreen and windowed" - I've personally had some random stuttering issues, so I wouldn't recommend enabling it.
@lukasbd418 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the video! I tried disabling Hardware Prefetch in BIOS but I can't find it, using a 12900k on a Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master motherboard, I also searched for it with the BIOS search function, but no results - I'm using the latest BIOS version, does anyone know how to find it? Is it named differently? Couldn't find anything on Reddit etc.
@MrVex-666Күн бұрын
Thank you for the video. I have done some of these optimisations on "old reliable" PC to squeeze out every last drop of performance but in a couple of days I will be building a new one because parts arrived, so this video is very helpful on what to do, or not :D
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
That's exciting 🙌 Best of luck (or skill!) Hope it turns out well! What's the specs?
@MrVex-666Күн бұрын
@FrameSyncLabs Thank you. To keep it short, I've managed to get a Ryzen 9800X3D, B650 Tomahawk, 32GB 6000 cl32, 2TB m.2 and a Sapphire Nitro+ 7900XTX and a 860W platinum PSU. There's a bunch of other things but I don't want to make a wall of text xD
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
@@MrVex-666 Lets goo! Managing to get your hands on a 9800x3d nowadays is lucky as hell 😁Enjoy your new build when you finish it and congrats!
@MrVex-666Күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs Tyvm :D
@TalJexyz12 күн бұрын
How can I change my BIOS settings
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
@@TalJexyz1 Restart your PC and keep pressing F2 or the "Del" key (its different on some motherboards) until you get into the BIOS, after that search for the settings and save your changes, then restart your pc
@TalJexyz12 күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs thank you, and nvidia cp performance settings u mean the perf preset? Or custom common perf settings?
@TalJexyz12 күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs and how do i let windows manage the core parking?
@AstroLoveGod14 сағат бұрын
why do i get better perf with smt on and prefetching on too ?
@FrameSyncLabs14 сағат бұрын
I tested Valorant, CS2 and Fortnite, which gives better performance with both Hyperthreading and Hardware Prefertcher OFF on my system. What's your CPU and what game you tested it on? Edit: Also, have in mind these results are from an Intel i5 14th gen, I can't confirm how this will work on an AMD yet as the Ryzen chip I wanna buy has been out of stock for quite a while (9800x3d).
@AstroLoveGod13 сағат бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs I have a ryzen 5 5600 and i tested in fortnite (replay mode) (note that i got 100 fps more for the max amount of fps with SMT OFF but a lower average and 1% lows)
@impo964519 сағат бұрын
Which game did you benchmark on because I get different result depending on the game I am benchmarking on
@FrameSyncLabs18 сағат бұрын
As shown in the video, the games I tested are Valorant, CS2 and Fortnite, I can't confirm that the same settings will work in other games, so pleasr make sure to test it on your machine.
@impo964517 сағат бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs thanks for the explanation 👍
@Arno6412 күн бұрын
can u elaborate on NVIDIA performance settings? how do i enable it? Also does E cores works around works the same way for AMD CPU or only works for intel?
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
I will make a separate video explaining everything about the nvidia performance settings soon. Ryzen does not have/use efficiency cores so you dont have to worry about that
@marianmelinte19 сағат бұрын
I have some observations to add: I would argue that Game Mode can be more helpful on than off. Ex. when using Borderless window mode (especially with a lot of recent titles going for this mode by default rather that exclusive fullscreen), it suspends the desktop compositor from running, which can help with stutter or minimum fps. This in combination with FSO, by leveraging the DXGI flip model, can be very good pair of settings to keep on, or to enable both. The problem with testing this is that it requires very specific scenarios to prove they are working, which most of the time is difficult to do. HAGS, for example, helps with the CPU-GPU balance. Ex. when the testing scenario involves a graphics intensive situation, where many rendering tasks are needed (which rely on the CPU for scheduling), HAGS moves that workload to the GPU, which can perform that faster. It can probably hurt performance when using a very low-end GPU though. I think it would be more helpful for everyone to know how things are working as well, to help them decide whether to enable or not some of these settings, besides the recommendation.
@FrameSyncLabs18 сағат бұрын
Thanks for your input! I'll definitely make a separate video explaining how everything works, but the point of this video was to test the most recommended tweaks by "optimization" channels which target games like Fortnite,Valorant and CS2. Some of them recommended specific settings to be OFF, while others said keep it ON, and thats how this video idea came to life - by testing the same common tweaks and show how they perform in these specific games. I'd never say these tweaks work the same for ALL games or systems, because thats impossible to determine without the viewer testing it for themselves. I do see your point and I forgot to mention some important things in the video so I'll write a comment when I get home and pin it to clear things up, thanks again! :)
@mntstar3517 сағат бұрын
Is that works on amd?
@FrameSyncLabs16 сағат бұрын
It should, however, I can't confirm a 100% as I'm still waiting for Ryzen 9800x3d to be back in stock so I can buy one and test on it. For the time being, I recommend testing each setting for yourself and see if it makes a difference for you. PS: For the BIOS settings - If you're on AMD, the equivalent of hyperthreading is SMT, and XMP is called A-XMP or DOCP.
@5H4D0W.Күн бұрын
when comparing hardware prefetcher, you mislabeled the graphs or made a mistake. It looks like this option set to ON gives higher fps
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
My bad, I did mislabel them indeed - sorry! OFF is the one that gives better performance, just swapped them by accident.
@JespeRCompeXКүн бұрын
Yes i noticed that to.
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
@@JespeRCompeX Wont happen again haha :)
@ddallmann13737 сағат бұрын
you can prob insert a caption in the video to correct the error in YT studio
@FrameSyncLabs7 сағат бұрын
@@ddallmann1373 I'm still new to this whole editing thing, and holy, is that possible? I'll check in the morning and correct it - thank you!
@internetuser4689Күн бұрын
Great video. Can you please compare w11 24h2 with w10 22h2 in gaming? You ll have a surprise to see that windows 10 is smoother and more consistent in gaming. Thanks!
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Will do soon for sure! Windows 10 has always been the GOAT for me, the only reason I switched to 11 (for now) is because of the new 24h2 version. Regardless, thanks for the suggestion!
@houssamfayzi2926Күн бұрын
Thanks for theses stats! It is valuable, i appreciate if you can do a video comparing Linux vs Windows gaming performance
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
I'll try to learn more about Linux as I havent dipped into it yet, but will definitely add it to my list of upcoming videos - thanks!
@Andrei-x5u2 күн бұрын
Is it ok to mess with the bios settings?
@stefxc2 күн бұрын
Yes! Just be sure you know what you're doing, because you can pretty easily break something.
@Andrei-x5uКүн бұрын
@stefxc should i disable hyper threading on i5 12400f?
@Raghav-gd3fnКүн бұрын
@@Andrei-x5u only if you do gaming if you also do editing work enable it back as said in the video
@stefxcКүн бұрын
@@Andrei-x5u It really depends what you're doing. The 12400F only has 6 cores, so I would keep hyper-threading enabled if you want to have anything running in the background (streaming, discord, music, background processes, etc.) In my opinion, the performance gain is too small to justify turning off hyper-threading on a CPU with less than 8 cores, UNLESS you want to be exclusively gaming with nothing else going on.
@RaKo42 күн бұрын
Hey, I was just wondering if a high number of hard page faults measured with LatencyMon while playing a game (in my case, Fortnite) indicates that something is wrong. I had around 34k after 2 hours of playing, even though I have a decent PC.
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
It could mean your SSD/HDD is being accessed instead of RAM directly, could use some more RAM in your case, how much does your PC have now? In addition to that, I'll test it for you in an upcoming video to see if 34k is a normal amount for 2 hours of playing :)
@RaKo4Күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs I currently have 32GB of 3600MHz CL16 DDR4 RAM. I thought that would be enough.
@Moodyfn20 сағат бұрын
can u test fr33thy's ultimate optimization guide
@FrameSyncLabs20 сағат бұрын
100%! I'm pretty sure he's very experienced, so the results should be good, added it to my list - thanks!
@amerkhalil27942 күн бұрын
what about Amd?
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
Most of these optimizations apply to AMD too, with a few exceptions like: - Hyperthreading which is the equivalent of AMD's simultaneous multithreading (SMT in BIOS) - G Sync is similar to FreeSync - Intel XMP is AMD's DOCP or A-XMP - Then we have overclocking, which obviously will be different for every CPU However, I can't tell if these optimizations will affect an AMD (Ryzen) CPU the same as an Intel one, so what I can do for you is buy a Ryzen processor and make another video in the future testing these same settings on an AMD system 👍
@LegendFn1112 сағат бұрын
Hyperthreading on for cpus with 6 or lower cores If more then ur safe to disable
@FrameSyncLabs12 сағат бұрын
That's the general rule of thumb that most people should follow, you're absolutely right. However, my CPU (i5 14600kf) has 6 physical cores and still saw a pretty significant FPS boost with Hyperthreading disabled in Fortnite, Valorant and CS2. I can't tell how it will perform in other games, so 100% test it for yourself in your game of choice and decide from there! :)
@LegendFn1111 сағат бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs quite the opposite for me I have i5-12400f (6 cores) and i gain 250 fps with enabling hyperthreading
@FrameSyncLabs11 сағат бұрын
@@LegendFn11 That's interesting, what game was that?
@LegendFn1111 сағат бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs fortnite
@me-kl9tg13 сағат бұрын
This is good stuff. I've subscribed and will check out your older videos too. Worth pointing out that this is just one system. It could be that a system using an AMD/Intel GPU or AMD CPU may respond differently to these settings. Obviously, like you mention in the video, it's unlikely that you will see the 500%+ gains the clickbait videos claim, but some settings may have different gains/losses based on different hardware. I doubt it's within budget right now for your channel to look at current gen hardware but perhaps if you start making some money from the channel then you could buy some older hardware and see what differences these settings can make to those systems. Bleeding edge hardware is great and does draw big view numbers, but budget/patient gamers are a huge viewership.
@FrameSyncLabs12 сағат бұрын
You don't even know how much I appreciate that comment, you're speaking the truth. I'm aware every system might respond differently, however, this is not an optimization video, but merely a benchmark with conclusions of how these optimizations are holding up in 2025 on a recent(ish) system using the most popular shooter games as an example. I did include the system specs as to avoid confusion, but I have to admit I missed some important details which will be there in upcoming videos! For the time being, if anyone has a question regarding these tweaks or their hardware, I'll be answering every comment to help clear things up. I'd still recommend to /always/ test such optimizations for yourself to ensure they work the same way on your system, even if it's closely similar to mine. Especially with X3D chips on the rise, I'd love to get one (currently out of stock) and build another system, so we can see how it performs on recent AMD cpus. It definitely isn't within budget, but I'm saving up so we can get it ASAP when it comes back in stock. If the channel grows and makes some money, that's even better as we'll be able to test on an even wider array of PCs ranging from low end to high end, fingers crossed and thanks once again for the kind comment
@me-kl9tg9 сағат бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs Thanks for the reply, and good luck with the channel! :D
@sahave50422 күн бұрын
Great and informative video. Also I recommend you add some graphical intensive games to have a more complete benchmark.
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@troginatorКүн бұрын
Going to try the bios tweaks when I wake up but as someone who only wants the best input lag as possible for gaming which settings do you think I should change for that
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
I'll make a video about it very soon, make sure you're subscribed with the bell on and I'll get it done as soon as I can :)
@troginatorКүн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs alright bet!
@mryxcse322219 сағат бұрын
optimization isnt changiong just a few settings in windows, try something like ctt or oneclick (i personally got 60 more average fps but ive seen people get bigger boosts in performance)
@FrameSyncLabs18 сағат бұрын
Will do, thank you!
@mryxcse322217 сағат бұрын
@FrameSyncLabs ive seen people get over 110 fps more with oneclick
@jayzn1931Күн бұрын
Did you switch up the graph titling? 4:17
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
I did unfortunately, didnt notice until people said it in the comments, my bad. OFF is the one giving an FPS boost :)
@ro_qaaКүн бұрын
I've had a bad laptop for so many years so i used to follow these optimization guides and none of them really worked, thanks for making this video it helps people like me and others in the same situation. ❤
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
You're very welcome! :)
@eazyet2206Күн бұрын
Awesome video and thank you for filtering all the crap. Do you have a video on how to change the settings in the bios that actually made a big difference?
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Not yet, this video was merely a benchmark of common "tweaks", there are multiple other videos in the works like: - How to set the correct BIOS settings - What nvidia driver is the best - What nvidia control panel settings are the best ... and plenty more about the things we talked about in this video, I'm trying my best to get them ready as soon as possible!
@eazyet2206Күн бұрын
Thanks so much, appreciated
@cristianramos28672 күн бұрын
what windows version? what nvidia driver?
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
@@cristianramos2867 I knew Im forgetting something, my bad. Windows 11 24h2 and Nvidia Driver 566.14 - I'll put it in the description when I get home, thanks!
@cristianramos28672 күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs dw!! just saying because I think it changes a lot within 23h2 and 24h2 and also latests nvidia drivers (korvie tech has a video on it) that explains how latency and fps are drastically different between 566.14 and other drivers edit: also if you on amd and you use msi afterburner disable ALL power monitoring because it gives a hell of stutters
@carpenoctem849023 сағат бұрын
It is way more complex than fps but, could you delve more into ping related configurantion and it's benefits?
@FrameSyncLabs20 сағат бұрын
Hey, I already made a video about ping and network optimization in general so check it out! If you meant latency (as input lag) - I'll be making a video on this topic soon.
@michealmcain57842 күн бұрын
wait why would u keep game mode off, if its just free fps and no negitive to it?
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Game mode OFF improved my FPS lows by a good chunk (up to 4%), if you already have windows updates disabled/paused (game mode prevents them from running while gaming), you should be good to disable it unless on a really low end PC.
@drikiwowКүн бұрын
The channel that needed me, keep up the good work, I'll sub you right away, could you have done fps tests with these methods too, cpu 0 on vs off, also process lasso program how much impact does it have, also windowsxlite which is one of the best for debload, thank you.
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
I'll make a separate video soon specifically for Process Lasso where we'll test all the settings - thank you!
@Limbo2615 сағат бұрын
can you test registry edits as well. thanks
@FrameSyncLabs14 сағат бұрын
Yes of course, it will be in another part of this video though! Do you have any registry tweaks that you'd like to see specifically? If so, let me know and I'll add them to the list - thanks!
@LucyScarlet-m5lКүн бұрын
what about: optimizations for windowed games on win11?
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Might have to make a separate video on this as I wanted this one to be "all inclusive", but Windows 10 doesnt have that feature.
@LucyScarlet-m5lКүн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs i believe these settings like gamemode and gpu acceleration could perform different between win 10 and 11 anyways
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
I believe they might, and I'm willing to put that to the test in another part of this video where we'll test these tweaks on Windows 10. I think it'll be useful for lots of people as everyone loves and still uses win10
@mdjd.8893Күн бұрын
Why not sliding ur power limit and temp limit and running Auto OC in MSI Afterburner? Super simple and gives decent results for minimal work
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
I did miss quite a few things, so if there's part 2 of this video I'm definitely including that, thanks!
@ipnos2009Күн бұрын
someone said it finally, man you are a legend !!!!
@TTks124Күн бұрын
Careful with disabling SMT. It depends on CPU and game. Many times, if not most, it will be detrimental.
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
The point here was to show how it performs in the post popular multiplayer games (valorant, csgo and fortnite), which are also the games targeted by the youtube optimization community. These games dont care about multithreading and will perform better with SMT/HT turned off. I mentioned in the video that if you're doing something like rendering/video editing, its good to keep it on.
@Clxpz2 күн бұрын
correct me if im wrong but dont u mean "enabling hardware prefetcher" bc thts the one with the most fps boost?
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
This one's on me, sorry, I labelled them wrong in the bench tool, OFF is the one with better performance
@Clxpz2 күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs o ok thts fine lol. I have a question, say if ur cpu supports SMT but its not in ur bios, is there another way to turn it off?
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
@@Clxpz Using an app called Process Lasso to limit your game so it uses only the physical/performance cores would do a great job without having to disable SMT in that case
@Clxpz2 күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs Thanks for the advice but I dont have the best experience with process lasso lol. I appreciate ur time an you def earned a sub!
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
I'll make a video on how to use process lasso soon, my list is full of good stuff coming your way, also thanks for the sub!
@33movinКүн бұрын
Can you do a bios for amd
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Will do! As soon as I'm able to buy the new Ryzen cpu, its currently out of stock, hopefully it wont take too long.
@heavymetalmixer9119 сағат бұрын
Regarding the Fullscreen optimizations: It's a huge "it depends", on the game (because what DirectX version it was made on) and the Windows version. Only DX12 games on W10, or DX11/12 games on W11 benefit from having them on, the rest of older games will get por input lag, sometimes stutters and in some rare ocassions even bugs. This is also why I always recommend to play on Fullscreen or Borderless Fullscreen, not on Window nor Borderless Window.
@dimitrijepetkovic644022 сағат бұрын
Thank you for debunking all of these, however if you could make the "real" optimization guide more detailed that would be absolutely amazing! Great video, seriously
@FrameSyncLabs22 сағат бұрын
Working on it! Thank you
@baumapfel4463Күн бұрын
with nvidia reflex you mean the low latancy mode in the control panel/app or you mean in the games that support nvidia reflex?
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
The nvidia control panel setting isn't called Reflex, my bad for not clarifying, I meant the In-Game setting
@baumapfel4463Күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs thank you👍
@zen471421 сағат бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabsso you didnt test the low latency setting in the control panel?
@nameless.019017 сағат бұрын
@@zen4714 that is the same thing for games that do not natively support reflex.
@TechDunk2 күн бұрын
Nice video! Hardware scheduling indeed is hit or miss, but I think newer games benefit more from it
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Could possibly be true, FPS games probably wouldn't, but newer triple As could probably see a difference, I'll test further - thank you!
@TechDunkКүн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs you're welcome! I think Unity 6 (latest game engine) is leaning a bit into it as well now. I do a lot of rendering work for games, so if you want to dive into that some day let me know
@poximano11602 күн бұрын
good video , i was really curious if those videos really works
@tt_fit2 күн бұрын
Thank you for doing this. Make a cs2 optimization next please
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
@@tt_fit Ty, I'll be making a series called "Best Settings for "X" Game" which will cover best settings for fps and latency/input lag for games like Fortnite, CS2, Valorant and more
@tt_fit2 күн бұрын
@ cs2 next PLEASE
@letmewatch.2 күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs warzone anytime soon? 😬
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
@@letmewatch. I got you, added warzone to the list, Ill try my best to push the most requested videos out first
@letmewatch.2 күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs sick, understandable!
@CometInOrbitКүн бұрын
Thank you very much for this, my laptop is very weak and now I can play my favourite game with more ease.
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
@@CometInOrbit So glad I can help, enjoy! :)
@CGF414922 күн бұрын
Thank you bro I've been looking for your channel a long time..and now it suddenly appeared again in 2025..I don't know if KZbin algorithm is stupid or they are doing shadow ban on some youtube channel but this time I'm subscribing.
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Thank you so much for the sub!
@asm86x3 күн бұрын
I liked this video, also you think i7 12700kf RTX 4060 is a good config?
@FrameSyncLabs3 күн бұрын
Probably the best budget build if you're playing CPU heavy fps games.👌
@stefxc2 күн бұрын
If you're thinking of buying that, I'd recommend going with a 14600kf or a ryzen 7 7800x instead. The 12700kf is a great cpu, but there's better value options nowdays.
@iamminh0519Күн бұрын
Wait so turning off game mode actually good?
@FrameSyncLabs21 сағат бұрын
In this specific test yes, I personally keep it off all the time :)
@TheBiigBadWolfКүн бұрын
How about all those optimizations at the same time vs stock. Because every 2-3 fps adds up, eventually increasing the PC performance
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Great idea, thank you! Once I finish the video I'm working on, I'll install a fresh Windows OS - benchmark it, then apply the tweaks and benchmark it again. Keep an eye out!
@TheBiigBadWolfКүн бұрын
@ Also can you make a video on PC latency. Fps is nice but what about those competitive guys like me lol I want my latency to be as low as possible. Thanks & great vid subscribed! I’ll keep my eye out for future recommendations, deff trying the hyperthread off setting.
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
@@TheBiigBadWolf A latency video is already on my list and I'll be trying to push it out as soon as possible, been working long shifts lately so that's delaying things a little, but rest assured it's coming :) Thanks for subscribing, it means a lot to me!
@UltraVoidPlaysRobloxКүн бұрын
on my rtx 3070 ti mpo is already disabled somehow. i think either nvidia or microsoft did it!
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Ah, they're learning, thats good! :D
@UltraVoidPlaysRobloxКүн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs i have got one question, if i disable hardware prefetching what is going to be worse?
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
@@UltraVoidPlaysRoblox Both FPS and mouse input were much better for me, haven't seen any downsides :)
@UltraVoidPlaysRobloxКүн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs alr thanks!
@Dest.V2Күн бұрын
But why does everyone say disabling hyperthreading is bad
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Possibly I didnt explain quite well in video, disabling hyperthreading was meant to be a recommendation for Fortnite,Valorant and CSGO players, not for everyone as I mentioned in the video. In the end, the most important part would be to test it for yourself and every system could be different. Maybe you'll get more fps, maybe less, but give it a shot and revert if you're not happy :)
@MLWJ1993Күн бұрын
Because it can be VERY bad, keeping it on however can have some mild performance impact too in some games (usually old ones). Depends on the application.
@Menle_21Күн бұрын
I want to know your opinion on islc
@FrameSyncLabs14 сағат бұрын
I will add it to my list of future videos where we'll talk about it - thanks for the suggestion!
@duxie_DKКүн бұрын
great job and i agree with you. Now do one for latency
@FrameSyncLabsКүн бұрын
Thanks! Latency optimizations are on the list of upcoming videos, shouldn't take long! :)
@ziefty19 сағат бұрын
e cores can actually help on windows 11 the scheduler improved them
@FrameSyncLabs14 сағат бұрын
It's true, and it probably will help for some games. However, the games tested (Valorant, CS2, Fortnite) don't seem to benefit from using E-Cores at all, or at least not yet. For any other game, I'd recommend testing it for yourself and see if there's a performance increase / decrease.
@ziefty8 сағат бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs If Ecore are disabled, Ht needs to be on. A good example would be a 6c/12t cpu and disabling Ht would make it 6c/6t. But line is your basically lower thread count significantly, and it isn’t beneficial if Ecore are already disabled because then your threads essentially minus by 2x
@vo1dxzzx3 күн бұрын
subbed, u the goat bro
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
Legend! Ty
@zaneatat2 күн бұрын
1:29 but doesn't playing windowed increase latency?
@abdulshaikh-nn8qh2 күн бұрын
ya in some games
@FrameSyncLabs2 күн бұрын
Nothing noticeable, my latency increased by 0.1 ms switching from fullscreen to windowed borderless and this could be a benchmark error so dont worry too much about it
@axandraalex58692 күн бұрын
@@FrameSyncLabs windowed is real bad if u r using integrated graphics or low end system. Back on 2015 i was using intel hd4000 to play csgo and it gave me around -10fps hit, it put me down to 40 fps
@lunatik61682 күн бұрын
@@axandraalex5869 That pc was meant to play solitaire not csgo 😂 If it's working correctly on your win10/11 install - there's almost no difference at all between them.
@MLWJ1993Күн бұрын
I don't think so with W10/11. They swapped out the old WDM method with a swap chain model that should be identical to pretty much any DX12/Vulkan fullscreen mode (which in reality is a borderless window since they don't do exclusive fullscreen anymore).
@doityourself329316 сағат бұрын
You did not turn off windows ram compression - the major FPS killer in the games.
@FrameSyncLabs16 сағат бұрын
Ooo that's interesting! I will definitely do some research and try it so we can talk about it in part 2 of this video, thank you!
@Ultrajamz15 сағат бұрын
Wanna see this on 4k with 4090
@FrameSyncLabs14 сағат бұрын
*speaks in broke* ... maybe one day when the channel grows!
@user-ph1cz9gv9vКүн бұрын
NVidia Reflex is for lower input latency IF! the Game is maxing out your gpu. This is known as render Queue buffering. But if the game is cpu limited (i guess like in your case) it could have potentially tiny bit negative impact due to less fps. --> Conclusion: turn on Mvidia Reflex or Amd anti lag only if gpu is maxed out!!!
@FrameSyncLabs15 сағат бұрын
Thanks for this, will definitely make the upcoming videos longer to be able to explain these type of things. The point of this video was just to simply: - Check if the optimizations that these channels recommend do anything on a new-ish system in 2025. - Check if it makes a difference in the games they target, which are mostly Fortnite, Valorant and CS2. I only recommend turning Reflex off on a similar system to mine (and if you play these specific games) as it changed the way shooting feels for me for the better (there's other videos on that topic too), only with roughly +0.1ms latency trade-off.
@sjejqnrof98vi10 сағат бұрын
No just leave it on the minus fps is too miniscule to even make any difference. Reflex also reduces input latency for dlss frame gen vsync and other features