I tried making an original Dark Fantasy oil painting

[@JakeDontDraw]

"Master Artist Critiques my Dark Fantasy Painting" WATCH PART 2 ➡ kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5-onYSGnZWqiKs

[@jakemartin4305]

Had an art teacher in high school she told me " art is not the finished product its the process that person took to achieve the final product." That has stuck with me all my life i hope someone else find it just as helpful and inspiring 😊

[@tiagodagostini]

True, but people will pay you for the finished work.. not for your journey :P So still important to not lose sight of that.

[@floridflesh]

@@tiagodagostini creating art is much more than making money from it

[@tiagodagostini]

@@floridflesh But making money is the ONLY part that is affected by AI. For anyone doing art for "greater goals" makes ZERO difference how much AI there is around!

[@imokay3193]

@@floridflesh Yet money is still important, art is much more than that but you still got bills to pay and food to put on the table

[@leydrewle]

that hit my soul very much so thank you my friend.

[@eli-omg]

another artist (that doesn't use AI) that makes dark fantasy content is Plastiboo. I adore their Vermis series. Cool shit.

[@Swancorner]

I second this. I got both Vermis volumes on my shelf 😎

[@ReblazeGaming]

@@Swancorner What is Vermis? Is it a comic book?

[@Swancorner]

@ReblazeGaming it's a game guide for a video game that doesn't exist. Think like old school Prima guides with enemy stats, secret weapons, level descriptions. All with a dark, hopeless, desolate feeling.

[@vast9467]

monster garden is also great!

[@eikonart]

YAY i found someone who like plastiboo too!!!!

[@a99g]

I think what makes these paintings or this type of art very comforting is that the characters appear to be so free they are doing whatever they want. They’re not tied to anything like our modern life as they’re just running around in beautiful castles and amazing nature. we all wish we could be free sometimes.

[@Linnoahh]

Fr

[@oogyboof]

People had jobs and duties in th middle ages. Catch a cold and die in your 30s ≠ freedom

[@santasgun7500]

Fr

[@realmboy9086]

I think striving to feel 'free enough' than have 'complete freedom' is more important. And then you have to sit down and think what freedom means to you. And you are usually the one stopping you cause freedom is firsthand a state of mind. Sure, it is usually also tied to your own situation in life in the physical realm but you are still responsible for releasing yourself by not allowing other forces to conquer your again, mind.

[@OffmetaQueen]

Hearing about the process and thoughts is definitely half the fun of watching an artist work

[@BigCMiner]

Omg finally some appreciation for Serdar Yildiz's work on the bannerlord loading screens. such an underrated collection of pieces. I practically leapt up when I heard you mention them.

[@justsomeguy8597]

i like the kinda point of view that reminds us that the older artists that get talked about so much are just regular human real world artists too, just like artists nowadays except.. back then. like putting it into a realistic perspective of theyre not gods, they arent the end all be all of artistry, nowhere near. they were talented artists of their time and thats not to be overlooked but the point is they were good at art, they understood it and spent much time becoming good at it and understanding it, just like anyone else can and even more freely today. it all seems like obvious stuff, but i do think its ignored sometimes or just not thought about as much as it should. i think a nice example of it is the pointing out that "if you think that the old masters wouldnt have used digital youre crazy. they used every tool they could that made the job easier." bringing things down to earth makes things so much nicer, almost comfier - for lack of a better word. such a nice thing to do to put things in perspective, especially when talking about times that have passed

[@tocide]

Yeah thinking things deep really put things into perspective, it can get you a long way mentally and that changes how you act out when creating or anything really, JakeDontDraw is one of the most profound art content creators out there. Hopefully more artists gets inspired to learn about history, observing and utilizing different creative processes from many artists so that they fully express and fulfill their creative journey

[@electricregion2676]

Love how you take lil moments to describe the process and how “the masters” would absolutely use digital and other tools. I grew up loving art and drawing but it wasn’t till Highschool when I started using Photoshop in a class, and getting lost in the process. Cause it is hard, the teacher had us make a piece after she gave us a step by step tutorial and you get lost in the simplicity, until you truly start making your project with your own ideas and tools (that you can remember to use), and that’s when the art process will start to challenge you. Great video and work 🫶🏼

[@Cryingpann]

19:18 watching your creative process is so inspiring. You’re so purposeful with all of your references and concepts.

[@Tehrawrzorz]

Dark fantasy (especially the images of knights at rest, hopeless, etc) I feel like really encapsulates what a lot of younger people may be feeling. I don't see myself as young anymore, (late 20s), but I see myself in those knights. It's a dark, strange and fantastical world out there. It can be really scary and sometimes you want nothing more than just to rest. Great video. I really enjoyed it.

[@GhxtIsCool]

your still young, your not even close to middle aged yet

[@s2sHoXXs2]

Hello, fellow jaded late-20-something year old

[@jakekunz5168]

i think it’s a feeling all young adults feel at some point which is why you see it in older fantasy. just seems like it was suppressed in mainstream media for a while

[@RichardSapagoff]

Jake, that's a really good robe you got there!

[@harleysmusic3242]

The film with David Bowie starring called The Labrynth is what much of these dark fantasy tik toks remind me of. Also the older elder scrolls games.

[@Insufferablelovers]

You really explained what’s going on in my head during painting. I have the issue of subconscious doing each step correctly (or at least what works for me) but I always manage to forget or misremember what I should be doing by the next painting. I’ve been having trouble getting back into painting and even drawing everyday because of this, but I think I have so often been over complicating things. Thanks, can’t wait for the next parts.

[@Fuzefromr6]

That one strand of hair was doing magic at the beginning pulling the hood together lol

[@DonkeyFilms]

I’ve been drawing all my life and the advancement you’ve made between 2019 to now is absolutely insane

[@Chris-lz6ci]

It helps when you learn theory. It’s like when you’re a self taught guitarist, you could be pretty good. But unless you get help from a master of the craft, you will be on a plateau for a long long time.

[@Taost.]

Nice robe Jake!

[@Game.UI.Design.Tutorials]

Jake, I love you! And the reason for it is because the extream amount of information you put into those videos! Your observational skill are incredible! The way you explain and elaborate on subjects and topics is deep and informative! Thank you for your input into the vast informative wave of the internet! Thank you for being here and teaching thouse things!

[@BjornBjergsen]

i love how you educate so much it makes me appreciate art more as you explain what’s nice about curtain artwork i also have a video idea, maybe. maybe try and recreate a piece you made 1 or 2 years ago? i would love to see you go into depth and how you’ve learned and looking back on your past mistakes

[@canvasengineer]

your reaction to buzz lightyear had me man XD, good stuff.

[@nebulaayt]

thank you for helping me rediscover my love for oil painting and art in general. thank you.

[@andrea_bilbao]

I loved this, can't wait for the next part.

[@LegacyRendArt]

Wow, best process description I have ever heard. So many youtubers don't know how to teach and romanticize it as you said. Thank you

[@Cryingpann]

I’m picking up drawing again and you’re doing such a good job explaining things is such a REAL way.

[@adamqu2989]

Bro, you gave me so much hope. I always enjoyed drawing, but I didn't have enough motivation to keep on practicing. Now I'm 20 and I recently thought that it's to late for me to learn anything. If you started at 20 and got so good, than I can do so, aswell.

[@elliecochrane2288]

youre only 20 youre just out of your teen years give urself a break and do what u wanna do, if u wanna draw then draw, this comment makes you sound like a gen x’er

[@adamqu2989]

@@elliecochrane2288 I know but I have friends that finnished art highschool, that are drawing since they were kids and I feel like I wasted all this time and I'll never be as good

[@ZiggyonMars]

14:42 this painting is at my local museum! It’s been there since I was a kid and I would stare in awe at how beautifully her mermaid tail was painted every time.

[@persephoneblack888]

I never really thought about the series of processes for art. I draw all of the time and have been for years, but I always got discouraged that I felt my artwork was never up to par. I see now it's that I was akways speed drawing or painting and not actually taking time to tumbnail, gather references, do studies... All of that will help.

[@jakekunz5168]

It really is the the 80s fantasy novel style. I remember accidentally drawing a character in this style as a kid when I was coming up with a character that could live in the world of The Sword of Shannara books that my dad gave me.

[@vraisairs9201]

The problem with AI isn’t whether or not it looks nice

[@JostDraws]

The problem with Ai is its creation, as it ripped off and stolen from tons and tons of artists without compensation and profits off their work to train tools, this is also causing photographers and other artists to completely remove their work from everywhere, fearing that someone will train an AI on their work and profit on top of their pieces and art its sad we cant even get directed to the artists they stole from to see where the images they generated come from, as that would make them liable to so much copyright lawsuits, they are a really shady and extremelly malitious business

[@somethingsomeone9678]

​​@@JostDraws I don't understand this. People steal too by taking inspirations. What you basically do when you train an AI is you just make the AI look at a painting and study like a real human could do by just looking at a painting or a drawing. This is no different. Process might be faster because AI isn't as nuanced as human brain. In the end I think this is a stupid argument. Jake here literally did similar things as AI by having inspriations and looking at other art and even taking colours from other paintings. Like I said this is what really humans do. Yes, humans cannot mass produce similar stuff and it takes more time train as humans but this is literally same. As a final, let me ask this: Should Jake be componsating all the artists he "stole" from? Do you really think it make sense to componsate every individual for their work if used to train an AI? How would even logistics of it work? Since, humans also train themselves with other paintings should also humans componsate artist for looking at paintings of an artist?

[@JostDraws]

@@somethingsomeone9678 It is EXTREMELLY different, do you learn by taking a imaginary picture of everything you have seen and merging it toguether? Or by visualizing the elements, breaking down the forms, and trying to understand how it works? Obviously you dont merge thousends of pictures from other people on your brain to create new ones, you come up with it by your own experiences, taste, etc. Also you should study on really how those image generation softweres were even made since you seem to have absolutely no clue. Ill say this but it is literally the biggest art theft in history, because the way they work is by USING art from everyone, then pretending noones specific art is in it so they dont have to pay copyrights, AI art is literally thousends of images converted to noise then back onto a picture, funny thing is, it would NOT exist without artists, photographers, etc. So PLEASE study what you are talking about before coming to such takes

[@somethingsomeone9678]

​@@JostDraws I appreciate if you send me a link or some kind of source that you learned this from because I really don't think what AI is.

[@somethingsomeone9678]

@@JostDraws Your first half of the take is reasonable. I'd say AI is not making art like humans do but it literally imagines it and we see what it imagines. Second half of the take however, is really stupid. I've been watching computerphiles video on it, It is not what you say it is. I also can say that you also watched the video but didn't even finish it and took the beginning of explanation and how it started as the reality and you just accepted as such quickly and probably closed the video because it made your opinions valid. In the beginning of the video computerphile talks about training neural networks to denoise images. However, there is more to it and you took a part of it as the whole thing and even that is insane because if thats the whole thing, how can AI even generate images? It can't, and the fact that you probably took it as the whole explanation is crazy. Now, honestly I gotta do a rewatch and probably look other videos and also read some stuff about it to fully understand but from what I am getting every image they train these AI models are also fed with prompts and they are interpreted by language model (like ChatGPT) and this is becomes a part of it input. So, the neural network with maybe thousands of images learns what it is looking at and starting be able replicate that, thanks to denoising and it can literally get an image of a noise and a prompt and dream that thing in different situations and in different poses and also it can diffuse it with other ideas of things; which is that, not images itselves, it uses ideas and information of those images instead of those images itselves to create a rabbit frog as it does in video. There are certain things I don't understand in video like; he talks about also having neural network denoise images without prompt and also compare it to a to an image that was denoised with a prompt and amplify difference and feed it with prompt and noised image to train and I have no idea why that is a necessety, it appearently helps with making more clear images but I don't know. Like, I can be a dumb idiot and overthink things and miss small things but I don't think this is case now and because of that it is really low of you to tell me to have a knowledge about the subject I am making statements about when you are the one that don't know anything about it. before watching this video I knew it used neural networks and I knew it used prompts to tell what this is to train neural networks but I just wanted to be sure. Maybe you gotta make sure you know what you are talking about. Also, the last thing you said about AI wouldn't be able to do what it does without artists and photographers is a fact, yes but I don't think it contributes argument to AI being the "biggest art theft". It just learns like humans do, maybe it doesn't specifically learn how to do art like humans do but it learns what looks like what and with a prompt it imagines what it looks like and we see it imagines.

[@hatsunemikuenjoyer6900]

this channel has been a really big inspiration to me and has helped me put art in a different perspective, I love how insightful you are while still allowing yourself to be silly and goof. actual art goals

[@dyzphoriia]

please make more long form videos i love listening to you talk

[@tobbe_ols]

I must show you appreciation for showing us the ''Le Chevalier Aux Fleurs''. I love looking at art but I've never been left speechless and in utter awe by a singular painting before. It gave me quite a visceral reaction, i simply love it. thank you

[@Cryingpann]

AHHHHH 32:20 ITS SO EXCITING TO KNOW THIS IS A SERIES

[@arionjoramaeneas]

Love the ambient Zelda music in the background

[@mangohehe]

Hi I'm not a artist or anything like that but I just want to say that I really enjoy your videos. Thank you for making these :)

[@LeatherNinja]

5:43 Hells Paradise seems to have taken inspiration from "Knight of flowers."

[@olivetree9920]

Good thing you set up the inspiration board with other works you like and want to emulate. It seems like a great way to train your mind on the kinds of styles and themes you want to work with in order to represent in your own artworks!

[@TheBeanMan]

I love the fact that you dont look like ur average classical painter but your knowledge and skills are phenominal

[@loganmazurek7673]

I think AI art is a misnomer because it’s really an amalgamation of millions of pieces of real art blended and spat out. Currently, AI does very little creation and does a lot of copying, sorting, mixing.

[@pilotmanpaul]

But isn't copying, sorting, and mixing how we Humans create and make new art?

[@danielpose3340]

@@pilotmanpaul No.

[@DemsW]

If you really look at it, human art and AI art is more similar than not. Human art always comes from inspiration from other images and art, copying bits of style and composition from other pieces. Try to train an artist without showing him art.

[@glutenfree7057]

@@DemsW AI art misses the soul of human art. It doesn’t feel like it has feeling in my opinion. I don’t think AI art could ever compare to real, human art with meaning and thought put into it. Personally, I feel as though even a child’s drawing with crayons and stick figures has more beauty and meaning than a soulless machine generated copy of real works.

[@vast9467]

AI simply generates images, art should never be used in combination with it

[@sunflowerseeds8809]

Definitely my new favorite KZbinr I remember finding your channel and being pumped bc I was in desperate need of new art KZbinrs. I watched a couple of your videos and then was stunned that you only had like 3k subscribers and like 5 videos. Watching your account grow was crazy! Good for you man for getting the recognition you deserve

[@TripleQuestionMark_]

You said you started back in 2019 which is CRAZY because I started back in 2020, but you seem lightyears ahead of me LOL I'd love to hear how you got to the point you're at now. What'd you study, how you studied, how often you practiced, etc etc

[@adon4948]

4:19 someone might’ve said this considering I’m a bit late. But there are infact goblins in TES as for Skyrim both the game and country no. However there are Rieklings present, there also might be lore mentions of goblins in the country I’m unaware of.

[@pilotmanpaul]

Paintings of Knights in full plate armor in a gloomy chivalristic romantic atmosphere as they think about all the battles, titles while resting at a tree or open plains will never fail to catch my attention. It just resonates with me and I love it so much.

[@deligeorgieva8535]

jake can you please do a video about digital art portraits and go a little more in depth on how to sculpt the face plains and focus on shapes rather than details? i love your shorts you have on this topic and i find them really helpful

[@Dexctre2]

good job on the robe jake

[@skyrNC]

Very cool idea to show the whole creation process of a painting as a series!

[@Katzielle]

your channel is the exact type of art content i've been looking for the past several years, i've had a blast watching you! keep it up :)

[@LynchieE24]

This is incredible I completely agree with so much of this. Also NOOOO I fell in love with the bottom left photoshop drawing, not the cherry red but the purple sky and the colours were lovely. But can’t wait to see what you end up doing

[@glideninja]

Kinda reminds me of Doja Cats cover art for paint the town red with the dark fantasy almost style and obviously the red cloak lol. I love this a lot it’s really great!

[@dyno9415]

incredibly nice video, honestly suprised how clearly you are able teach me stuff i will probalby never use

[@PatosdeGuadalupe]

I’m following this as a tutorial I recreated this for a concept I wanted to portray and it worked pretty well thank you!

[@Kaloxn]

Jake never fails to teach me something new every video excited to see the final piece!

[@someonewbigdreams]

Only five years and u have all this knowledge ?, that’s so impressive it inspired me a lot I’m excited for the next episode, keep it up

[@00luke]

Commenting to stay tuned for next part

[@charlesmatlock2177]

That Mount Athos painting is so cool. If you didn't know, Mt. Athos is a real island off the coast of Greece which has some of the oldest Greek Orthodox monasteries in the world (1200+ years old). To get there you have to request permission from a specific monastery before going, then get on a ferry that will take you to the base of the mountainous island. Then you begin a very long hike to the topofo the mountain to whichever monastery you chose. Super cool painting.

[@andrewwanchyeng181]

I can't wait for the next part! Your content is very educational and inspiring, like talking to an old master

[@jweather66]

The nymphs in that bouguereau painting are incredibly beautiful to me

[@FionaThebulldog-nk1rp]

even i though i dont paint i still find your content funny and educational. Maybe i should start painting lmao

[@seanmcdonald1153]

I’ve been waiting for a video like this for so long

[@sleeepy7]

the self made robe looks so goooood!!!!

[@shoob6298]

Dark fantasy has had me in a chockehold lately, I'm in love with it. What a great idea and interesting video! Can't wait for more

[@moonshifter0]

You are a big inspiration to me. I was astounded when I learned, that you initially started at 20 years old.

[@Roblessed722]

Please look into frank frazettas art. It’s so good and the reason it feels so familiar is because this style has been around children’s media for a while. The black cauldron, Anastasia, the smurfs, even some episodes of Tom and Jerry.

[@eddyyams5450]

Your videos have actually taught me more than any art teacher I’ve had thank you so much 🫶

[@RewerWn]

Would love to see a Light Fantsy version as well

[@anacarolingia]

dark fantasy reminds me of the animation in classical 80’s He-Man

[@wooltar9601]

I don't have to try to make JakeDontDraw a part of my Dark Fantasy

[@dawnstag7267]

You and me both

[@_Emit_]

man i gotta say I love this channel because you are an artist with a youtube channel, not a youtuber

[@susierabbit6591]

I love how you always put elder scroll music in the background, Jeremy Soule was one amazing musician.

[@Krondon-SSR]

awww yisss ive seen that passage of the monks painting. It's soo good on the eyes

[@lpslvr]

i love this walk through of the creative process. please do more

[@xXVintersorgXx]

Couple things.. it needs to be more muted values. The rocks around the the subjects should be almost all black and dark grey. Honestly i think you should do a grayscale study with just black and white paint to really nail the values. I think that's what really sets dark fantasy apart from realism. Also it makes very little sense that he'd have a helmet but no armor. You don't block your vision if you're not even gonna protect your upper body. Just ditch the helmet and put the sword with tip buried in the ground and his hand on the pommel maybe even pinning the robe to the ground. Also i would try and make the robe either silky or very barely translucent so you can get a little bit more form in the shadows of the folds

[@AmandaInEly]

Looking forward to more!

[@MFDeimos]

This is almost like my Beautiful, dark, twisted, fantasy. Amazing.

[@freakshowlucifer616]

5:50 "Don't expect anything of me" Best artist quote ever.

[@Afriendd]

Teachers before drawring on the board

[@figard9855]

I love this style, it resonates with me so much. It also kind of reminds me of the 1948 Macbeth movie

[@vlaicud]

It's cool that this video not only taught me about art but it taught me about life

[@Jonty-kq4fr]

I liked the bottom right one so much more than the rest!

[@nataliebranch9569]

I'm a current art student and have always had a lot of anxiety surrounding my art making process. Don't get me wrong I love painting and the feeling of being in the zone but I just cannot help but compare myself to others and wish I was perfect all the time. Yet watching this video and hearing your words on the sketching process of old masters and knowing that I'm not alone in these feelings but also knowing it just takes time and practice even for others really helps me ❤ Thank you so much

[@izabellamiller8735]

You’ve quickly become one of my favorite KZbinrs

[@randomtinypotatocried]

I assumed you were doing this far more longer than that. I love seeing your work

[@keythjauregui3207]

man i love this together with dungeon synth

[@Tenitorito]

oh my gosh i love dark fantasy vibes AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I LOVE IT SO MACH

[@saulferreira9631]

Your channel was some of the best things I found this year. Keep the good work

[@shiba2ndworlder]

Very nice idea, can't wait to see the final result.

[@Kakao-Felix]

this is sick timing, had this kind of artstyle all over my twitter feed and really enjoyed that

[@jaspertheboat]

So glad you saw this trend it’s really inspired me too! Pls do a light fantasy painting too

[@Nova04550]

really excited for the follow up.. I don't even draw and I've been watching all your videos 😂

[@tobias9790]

instantly followed you after this one, i love the way you see things and talk about it

[@BeetleBoiiii]

Very excited for the next part

[@CircleofPharaohs]

Thank you for this video I was talking about the use of ai images being used a help of inspiration of a feeling or even aesthetic in art imma make a few more videos talking about this and imma use that website you used in this video because there were interesting images

[@im2smurf4this28]

Incredible video Me encantó que hayas hecho el hincapié en el proceso artístico. Que no solo se haya quedado en el solo hecho de poner pintura y el resultado final, si no en todo, desde la inspiración, el buscar referencias, la estética que se le quiere dar, el boceto, y los muchos intentos y errores que conlleva una obra Cómo proto-artista, se me puede olvidar todo lo que es necesario para una obra, y es fácil terminar frustrado por no seguir esa línea de artista romántico que hace todo bien a la primera. Gracias.

[@keuoi]

i recently found you on my recommended & holy moly you are awesome. i don't get bored or feel like i have to skip. you're so entertaining & i love how you teach while you do your thing.

[@SidtheSloth24]

Some of these remind me of early cover arts or posters for the original Star Wars trilogy from the 70s and early 80s

[@dewnl8389]

I feel like dark fantasy is the style that I imagine in my head while reading fictional mythology books

[@Maraclea6]

Good job jake :D

[@ИвСан]

This video is amazing, man! Thank you so much for this, i subscribed immideately. And also youre very nice to listen to)). You gave me that my art teachers didnt in my academy time♡ thank you♡♡♡

[@JostDraws]

The problem with Ai is its creation, as it ripped off and stolen from tons and tons of artists without compensation and profits off their work to train tools, this is also causing photographers and other artists to completely remove their work from everywhere, fearing that someone will train an AI on their work and profit on top of their pieces and art its sad we cant even get directed to the artists they stole from to see where the images they generated come from, as that would make them liable to so much copyright lawsuits, they are a really shady and extremelly malitious business

[@Lazamattaz]

Not to mention the terrible environmental impact is has too

[@Rdeemd]

6:53 Everytime I see dark fantasy on my FYP it reminds of The Neverending Story, Dragonslayer, or Dragonheart. The Dark Crystal also comes to mind, or maybe any old muppets movies. The "60s to 80s film" idea is, in my opinion, the best way to describe the dark fantasy vibe.

[@SORDADIN09]

29:43 "and them, Jake got this run..."

[@Kajenx]

Hey Jake, you would probably get a lot from Daz 3D. You can pose realistic humans like little dolls for a good reference in the exact pose you want. I found it really useful for doing multiple figures especially.