I Tried the HERO TALENTS in WOWs NEW EXPANSION

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[@nightknight7748]

Well casters were complaing about melee always catching up to them. This will definetly help with kiting

[@dabiun7443]

and idk why lol

[@loganzaporzan5964]

Nah melee will get 1000 outs, roots, stuns, and charges

[@dabiun7443]

@@loganzaporzan5964 casters are getting more so plz stop the brainless comments

[@slugfest513]

lmao

[@KlangeffektTV]

@@dabiun7443 i doubt shadow priest get some mobility XD

[@sparkos14]

Did I zone out or did you not try the Arcane Spellslinger?

[@burtonkevin32]

If he used fire blast while shifting power he would account for the cd reduction since you can use fire blast off gcd while shifting so it doesn’t waste charge recharges

[@schornou7007]

WoW pvp needs less passives/buffs less micro cc less abilitys, fewer numbers but harder hitting/impactful ones but all those points would make pve boring, thats why i say split pvp specs complety from pve since legion.

[@Solaxer]

They don’t even have a PvP team anymore lmao where do you think those changes would come from? Holinka was the last and he left a year ago.

[@duvelfav5189]

@@Solaxer What are you even saying?! There is no team at all at anything. WOW is dead

[@taftvalue]

wow pvp needs to be plunderstorm not unavoidable 6 sec kidney shots etc

[@teej143]

BYE! 👋👋👋

[@dw22509]

Sooo play new world?

[@FernandoRodriguezU]

I already couldn't do the fire rotation on retail reliably, now I'm really in trouble :D

[@cem293]

These hero talent options seem to have some clear winners already vs the other choices.

[@ImKarrex]

Dont know if you saw Xar, in datamines on mmo-champ, most likely a new talent: Living bomb always crit and contribute to hot streak on initial damage

[@lulsauce]

I love when xaryu says “BLIZZARD!!!!!”

[@pjdava]

Xaryu, Your videos always make me happy, so I subscribed!

[@crookedlid9653]

The phoenix does so much dam HOLY

[@AkiRa22084]

These builds are fascinating. Obviously work in progress, but I like the direction of not drowning us in new Actives.

[@ilmstreams]

Fire Mage is the actual main character of WoW. As a Mage player since WAY BACK in 2004 (original launch day player), this makes me happy.

[@Kanoog]

Same from leaving EverQuest, but I stopped enjoying it during BC.

[@jademers88]

As an ele shaman and warlock main F you

[@dyyylllaannn]

Ret Paladin is obviously the main character

[@jademers88]

@@dyyylllaannn lol no. Ret has been bad for 8+ years only until last year and this year from their rework are they loved. Pally is in a really good place right now, but that doesn't mean mage isn't the main character. OP is right, mages have been amazing since the inception of WoW.

[@ein8539]

9:20 fire definitely needs some tweaking what with scorch dealing more damage than pyroblast lol

[@jarred9561]

Amazing!! You made me want to play fire and I love frost haha

[@TheGrinder_27]

Xaryu playing wrong talents on fire mage was funny but still cool to see him touching retail bm though SoD is the main character

[@DMiso90]

The amount of self heal on dps classes is insane

[@VIC-yy2hp]

Why did the phoenix no spells in the duels 😅

[@Jdkb-kn3vt]

I like the new spell book but I think it would oook even better with some mage runes etc on the pages so it doesn’t look so bland same goes for the other classes as of that a book you got when you first became a mage like it’s ancient writings etc

[@PhilipAlexanderHassialis]

The idea of keeping the talent tree and adding a new one is interesting. THAT BEING SAID, the fact that we will get *all* the talent points, make it "yet another artifact weapon". No son, make an EXTRA talent tree, with 3 tiers, one per Worldsoul expansion. And make it a full talent tree, as in the other two trees. Not like, "oh, in 3 nodes you can choose A or B", make it completely different, with "Hero Class" specialization and more talents. "Don't you guys play Last Epoch?" - because the D4 team sure did and lifted a shitload of stuff from there.

[@kieransol]

I don't see the video link in the description for the full

[@Fryzzi]

I wish they would add a Rune, to get a green Hellfire Arcane style. That much Pink is just a bit too much imo.

[@teej143]

This makes me want to roll fire mage in TWW

[@DrPluton]

Although I understand your complaints about Frost, it's the only mage spec I enjoy.

[@willdallly8271]

wait we have even more talents now? sounds like more buttons to me my 5 bars are already full ....

[@jamesjohnsoniii8068]

Almost every HERO Talent is passive (happens when you pop your main Dmg CD like Phoenix) or changes a current button (Frostbolt->Frostfirebolt) doesn't add new buttons

[@aaronjohnson2215]

Arcane version needs to look more arcane

[@GravityDAD]

@xaryu @everyone - will I be able to play mage without weak auras or being reliant on macros? not at a competitive level, just entry level raids and LFR mid range mythic+s?

[@jamesjohnsoniii8068]

You will always need an @cursor macro for Blizzard and Flamestrike

[@GravityDAD]

@@jamesjohnsoniii8068 simple enough to get the hand of though eh?

[@MrWardonis]

Why didn't you try arcane spellslinger?

[@R0NO1]

I miss the days when feral wasn’t the strongest meele but still had the most mobility. Now feral isn’t the strongest meele and…..well….fuck!

[@Qstorm88]

😂

[@kodylaclair961]

feral cleave is yuuuge bro

[@crackedcuore1989]

where is frostfire build? only seen people try sunfury and spellslinger (kinda) is it really that bad?

[@DrPluton]

It looks like it'll be great for PVE but questionable for PVP.

[@anthonyg6083]

22:08 freeze frame. Why does the Mage Xaryu is dueling have 3x Frostbolt debuffs? Are they all different? If so, Are they all going to last long enough to know what each one does? And Xaryu has 2x the same proc Buffs on himself. Retail overflowing with buffs/debuffs that bring so much clutter.

[@gamenerd12]

The other frostbolts are from his mirror images

[@adamstevens3661]

Jumping is key to the build

[@Jeremywaters94]

how tf arcane blasts go from like 15k to 250k?

[@kodylaclair961]

arcane blast ramps up damage and cast speed with every arcane orb you have. so when you have 4, it casts fast and hits really hard

[@rodnewcombe1120]

what if we could use both hero talent tree

[@spartanscreed5396]

isnt there a entire season of pvp coming this tuesday??? maybe focus on that???

[@JaredKelso123]

Xaryu's Twitch audience are all 45+ year old men.

[@Kingofsouthlake]

lol

[@Seb7an]

So what?

[@AkiRa22084]

If you go back to Retail, I might subscribe.

[@KolanceMeer]

Phoenix is a warrior 😁😁😁😁🤣

[@keithedison6160]

We need to get Xaryu to come back for "one last job".

[@ivantheamazing1188]

Fire is insane lols

[@flo_togo9553]

Havent watched it yet but i dont think we need more talents ontop of the existing billions of talents

[@SatansRoyalBoner]

Love the classic Andies that flame retail even though they haven’t played it for years.

[@joshuawhite6942]

Man I can’t wait for hating a game for views to be over

[@Wellshem]

I swear, why do they even watch retail video? Retail ain't going to become a 20 apm game again

[@Alkemystx]

Way too much stack stuff to pay attention to for Arcane imo. Arcane charges, clearcasting stacks, phoenix stacks, & then missiles procs

[@byronporter3357]

Did I miss it or something I payed 90 dollars when is the beta!

[@johannesstandoft760]

*specs living bomb* proceeds to not pressing it for 3min xD

[@AlexZurek]

Am I seeing your ignite tick for 386k on each target? @14:45

[@cody7210]

LMAO yes 😅

[@cody7210]

But then you have whoever designed the frost splinters doing 0.00001% of that

[@Pavidota]

9:05 I think this only holds true from a pvp perspective, arcane is cool as fuck in pve

[@filipfenix]

Untill they balance the damage behind having almost 100% combustion, so its going ot be no damage and the entire spec unplayable.

[@enesozgun7519]

Fire mage is so good bro. I playing fury warrior, so when i playing fire mage is feels like ranged warrior. You just spamming buttons and you feel you really playing the game.

[@natanielnascimento7487]

he pick Living Bomb and forgot to use it, or i am crazy?

[@Sheriff_K]

I haven't been non-casual since TBC.. Basically when I was in high school, I was a giga-elitist tryhard. 😅🙈 (Was in top raiding guild on realm no-life prog'ing and chewing coffee grinds to min/max awake-ness.. it was bad.) Now I just do casual stuff, like Fish, collect Mounts, kill Booty Bay NPCs, etc.. (Go 40/40 on PoE Leagues.. wait what? That's totally being casual, I swear.)

[@wienhub]

nobody telling him to use SKB

[@ajdorceric4265]

You are used to vanilla xD it's too complicated for you.

[@heatup4364]

great even more weakauras to track

[@Kooriaisu]

frost just had a rework tho xd

[@anders8461]

Ngl arcane feels better as a spellslinger based on what I read from the talents

[@foreverunitedasone]

i would scream if i get the alpha, i know its just alpha only i love to experiance raw new stuff that is comming up in the new expansion

[@VeloVios]

More talents? As if wr weren't overwhelmed with talents already..

[@Vertigo1016]

Is wow back 👀

[@marsh3674]

People in the chat saying "I thought this guyn only played classic"...... my friend have you not beared witness to one of the greatest mages ever in his element?

[@hybro8]

Bro can we just have 4 button combat back

[@jamesjohnsoniii8068]

Have you tried Heros of the Storm?

[@Wellshem]

You should try league of legends

[@lordyasha5944]

​@@jamesjohnsoniii8068 ded game literally 😂

[@curtisphillips243]

Xar retail???? We misssedddd youuuuuuu

[@Clearlykarma]

Realistically though, how "new player friendly" are we looking at here?

[@AverageYTer]

Yay more abilities.

[@witcherpie]

damn mages got c*cked hard. Fury are getting execute builds and bladestorm, and sunfury gives you a phoenix pet?xD

[@chasedogman2032]

I mean yeah thats the class fantasy just like Kael'thas, an iconic mage

[@witcherpie]

@@chasedogman2032 as sunfury kaelthas style magic I'd expect something big, like meteors falling down or something. Not a small little phoenix

[@Wellshem]

Bro, this bird does a convoke the spirit

[@Wellshem]

​@@witcherpie his ultimate was phoenix in warcraft 3, a big one though but it would be annoying on pve

[@Devildoginvu]

40min of just mage when I was under the impression he’ll try more classes.

[@AnnAhl185]

Same shit. SO INSANE

[@federicorudolph949]

Whats the point of having a fucking habily tree if you could get it all.

[@user-du4sq9yx2d]

why cant I play it?

[@iamruuts3798]

Thank God for classic, looking forward to Cata. Been playing the new WoVr mod in virtuality as well. That is a trip, so good. Just no interest here in retail or retail light SOD.

[@Generalkillaman]

Give it a shot

[@MRCKICH6060]

Blizz Just make new expansion with cataclysm pve and pvp systems and GG! :D

[@silver2zilver]

No you tried MAGE HERO TALENTS not any other class.

[@crazedxfighter]

didnt know people play wow anymore

[@Generalkillaman]

Millions

[@Vegan_Chef_J]

i dont want my dps coming from an bird... spellslinger all the way

[@PaulKing594]

Frost is always the OP easy win spec, change that. Who else is sick of Mage/Rogue being meta?

[@lorm5439]

Bro, with retail I dont even know what im watching anymore .. old zoomer brain cant handle

[@reviewthereviewer7034]

because you play classic where nothing happens. Switch to retail before you end up with dementia

[@stephenschneider4221]

@@reviewthereviewer7034some people have real jobs and don’t want to play a game that is another job. Enjoy staring at systems and menus all day and pretending you are happy. 😢

[@Huckle777]

@@reviewthereviewer7034 Literally the realest comment.

[@lorm5439]

​@@reviewthereviewer7034I quit retail.... after I realized I was playing a Disney-furry moneyslot casino instance based game, instead of an actual open world MMO RPG

[@offed_]

if you don’t understand retail you must just fish 24/7 in classic, like what lilbro

[@offed_]

I don’t understand the classic community, coming from someone who has played all of OG Vanilla to Classic era, to the re-release of TBC + WOTLK and now to SOD into cata, how can you not just enjoy the game for what it is instead of trying to turn it into something it’s not, retail is so much more engaging and so much more to do then the average questing in the same zones 1-60 over and over and over again there is so much more barrier to entry in classic wow it’s insane, but yet again I love both and if u bozos finally realize that you can enjoy both you’ll live in bliss, but I also totally understand that you guys that D-ride classic era all share 1 braincell and can’t do a 8 button rotation + a few defensives LOL

[@julianbazman7504]

rank 1 xar inc

[@DanielCruz-qr6qu]

They should have gone for "hero skins", so far these so called "hero talents" just look underwhelming...

[@logoceef2886]

just queue 2s with pika and fuck around

[@dalaraz1]

chat over ability tooltips was kinda of a bad editing to be honest :p

[@HefHeresy]

I'm sure this time It'll be great. Surely.

[@marshallcierovola376]

The clickbait thumbnail is strong with this one.

[@Huckle777]

All the 80 IQ classic andies saying "Too complicated" is so dam funny to me. I think this looks sick personally

[@johnny_eason_iii]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏💥💥💥💥💥💥💯💯💯💯💯

[@Volku38]

Too many things going on at the same time, it feels you dont look at the game anymore only at indicators.

[@Smrt927]

This whole time I was under the impression that you only get to go down one Hero talent "leg" at a time, not fill out all 3. What's the point?!

[@Xynth25]

They said from Day 1 you'll get all nodes...that's a misunderstanding on your part. You've got some passives and 4 choice nodes.

[@drewblock1365]

There are 3 separate trees, I believe. You pick a tree and get the whole thing. There are only two available to you at a time based on what spec you are.

[@joachimlarsen2k]

If that's not just an alpha test thing this will be cooked

[@Smrt927]

@@Xynth25 If that's the case you could just put the choice nodes on the side and have the rest pre-filled. If you get one point per level than the trees will be different only for the duration of the leveling journey, so like the first 10 hours (or whatever) of the expansion only.

[@Xynth25]

@@Smrt927 Yep. That's exactly the point. Blizzard has been blatantly, explicitly transparent about these trees from the start. They're not supposed to be huge power gains, they're supposed to be kept balanced, and you get all of the nodes. Your choice is which of the 2 per spec you play. Not their fault you've missed this in the...6 months(?)...they've been talking about these

[@jonathanjones3529]

BRING BACK WATER ELE

[@alexis1156]

Slinger def seems the more boring out of the 3.

[@gk7720]

xaryu is so freaking hottt

[@CRWeaventure]

Freshen gaayuuueeee

[@EndoPvP]

Xaryu begs for mage stun for like 2yrs... gets stun... instantly OP kills everyone in a non-DR stun... perfect! Yea, this is going to be a problem in 2s and 3s. At the VERY least, it needs to DR with stun, otherwise RM will 100% be the only viable comp in 2s, and RMP in 3s. full kidney into CS, CS, into full 3s mage stun... SUPER busted in PvP.

[@weedos4580]

this feels so like ff14 wich is not good to my taste.

[@jamesjohnsoniii8068]

This is nothing like FFXIV

[@Gabsorb]

400k ingnite dot... jesus... rbg dream

[@imnotagamer22]

Here we go again…. All that talk about how blizzard is yet again going down hill and here u are trying to raise the bar for them…. Just let them FAIL already, stop feeding into this continuous cycle of ‘abuse’

[@user-kl9bi4jt4t]

Lol abuse. It's a game, not a lifestyle choice.

[@imnotagamer22]

@@user-kl9bi4jt4t its a company. And if u don’t think blizzard is abusing their consumers then you’re alrdy brainwashed. I’ve been dialed out of them for a while now

[@user-kl9bi4jt4t]

@@imnotagamer22 How are they abusing consumers? Pay, get product/service. The consumer is never forced into anything. There's literally zero chance for abuse.

[@Wellshem]

​@@imnotagamer22so, why are you watching a wow KZbin video and commenting, just move on

[@juangabrielacostacanessa626]

Not pumped lol

[@boganbattalion7088]

What is the point in a test server when we all know damn well the game will not be finished and there will be constant nerfs and buffs making classes gods and others not worth playing for atleast the first 3/4 of the game? WOW sucks so bad RN, I wish I never started playing it, if I knew it was just a non stop roller coaster ride and paying a sub for all unfinished games that you can put so much time in for them to just destroy the character you spent mths on building. I switched to SOD and even that is utter garbage, I will try Cata but I think that will be my last go at wow, if cata is full of silences then I am done with wow for good! Why do they have a mech in the game only a couple of classes get that is so powerful and can't be trinketed? Dogshit. Sod priests have a 8sec silence, 2 types of pets, dots that melt you to death in 6secs flat, bubble, dispel, shields, self heals and they are tanky as hell? Make it make sense? How about the paladins every game in arathi? They always have 4-6 pallies in a match and it makes it so rare tro beat a team in first team fight because they all just bubble and we spend 10secs having to run out of position! I don't understand how wars have a 30min cd on retaliation or whatever it is but pallies seem to have 5min cd or whatever it is on bubble which is way stronger? I understand that it would be hard to get this game balanced but this is actually just ridiculous and shows blizzard don't give a crap

[@Wellshem]

Stop playing right now, you look insane

[@ethanpage6629]

Seems way too complicated

[@andrecardoso6941]

yea retail isn't for classic players. There's so many expansions inbetween.

[@chillinpandastudio]

There's Classic or SoD you can go play where you can enjoy pressing 1 button ad nauseum if that is more up your alley.

[@mythiccx7434]

It’s literally a couple passives and a ability

[@chc2650]

Its kinda complicated when every class has like 20 passives working in tandem.

[@Huckle777]

@@mythiccx7434 LOL ikr man classic andy's are a lost cause.

[@minimalenlive]

who really care about the order you choose to test xD ? are you madonna ?

[@Papa-Ozz]

This game has far too much going on to make me wanna play again. More talents, abilities, modifiers, buttons etc was not the move for me personally.

[@SatansRoyalBoner]

It’s just because it’s unfamiliar to you. Step outside of your comfort zone, I thought you classic players always said retail was too hand holdy

[@Papa-Ozz]

@@SatansRoyalBoner no, it’s because it’s overly designed with too much going on for me. I don’t play any versions of wow. Have a nice day.

[@Billy-ld1im]

@@Papa-Ozzso what’s the point of you saying anything if you’re not at least going to try it for yourself?

[@Papa-Ozz]

@@Billy-ld1im …because if the game was appealing I would try it? I can’t work out if you are all overly protective of this game or lacking common sense.

[@Billy-ld1im]

@@Papa-Ozz nothing that was said is overly protective of the game. Your comment just lacks common sense and is completely pointless if you’re not going to try something for yourself.

[@J2911L]

This guy has gotta have some of the most clueless viewers in terms of gameplay, idk how he puts up with that amount of negativity

[@Generalkillaman]

Happens to every streamer

[@argonzo437]

"good class desgine" zero casting

[@user-kl9bi4jt4t]

Good. boring things should be trashed.