I Tried the TONEX Pedal

[@LeonTodd]

What's your favourite thing about Tone-X? Grab my captures for free here - www.tone.net/tonex/users/leon_todd

[@figtheoryvlog]

I like the fact that it puts all the stomp/amp/cab on one processor and since it can be combined it uses very little processing power. Has anyone taken one apart to see what DSP Tonex uses?

[@figtheoryvlog]

You can make the reverb sound somewhat like a delay, but I agree that this thing really should have delay.

[@doctersound9630]

Players would still need to buy an amplifier ($$$$) and or speakers ($$$$) PLUS the Tone X ($$$) to get the sounds out of the unit vs ONE full unit that literally does everything. (And or a DAW/INTERFACE/Computer etc.) which is also $$$$$$$$$

[@justinTime077]

The authentic true-to-amp tubey tones, which require no ridiculous tweaks to get. Find a righteous profile and play, no need to get a degree in ‘this-companies-workflow to sound decent’

[@justinTime077]

@@doctersound9630 what?? Tonex actually has the lowest price and barrier to entry vs any comparable modeler!😂 FREE profiles to try it, $9 a month for full access on iPad / mobile?! Are you kidding? It’s no different than any other modeler.. If you have your own interface, headphones, and/or speakers you’re already good to go. It just lacks effects.

[@constantinosmavroyannis9409]

it's such a good thing for the musicians that watch Leon that he has the knowledge and the intention and he picks apart the things he reviews so ppl can know everything. most of the advertiser-youtubers out there only stay on the surface and parrot the script given by the companies. great job man

[@sgmarshall3]

I agree. I understand the financial benefits of parroting the advertising campaign, but I think people relate more to honesty. Plus, Leon explains things simply. He’s a really good KZbinr. I’d love to see Rag Dolls if they ever play in the Midwest USA.

[@effdpaul1815]

I just bought the TONEX pedal a few months ago ... after playing with the computer based version of the software. The pedal will make playing under the typical constraints on stage these days much more practical. In the studio, it will still be my tube amps ... why use an imitation of the real thing when you can have the original. Very satisfied so far with TONEX.

[@neonether]

Dude, because the app is unanimously so clunky and frustrating, your captures pretty much make this pedal worth buying to the population at large now! No doubt you deserve a commission for this fantastic work!! Thanks for always keeping it real man!

[@LeonTodd]

Thanks mate! I hope people enjoy them :)

[@rgbplumbinghilton]

I am using one live. It is definitely the best sound I have ever had front of house. I use 4 amps captures. JTM 45 Plexi 68 BF Fender And Tone junkie Ac44. I have also used it as a stomp box and that sounds equally as good...... This box and amp library is absolute value for money!!

[@SalsaBro]

Do you know if the toneX pedal comes with the full "amplitube max" software?

[@rgbplumbinghilton]

@@SalsaBro not that I know of. I only use the Tonex software. I am a bit of a dinosaur where software is concerned. I just plug it in, add what amps I want and then use it. I am sure it does loads more but I will probably never find out

[@SalsaBro]

@@rgbplumbinghilton thanks man. I consider myself somewhat up to date with software but it is just getting crazier these days! I think I am going to have to get one.. too cool not to check it out.

[@QuickSticks8771]

Do you need to high and low cut these tone x units to sound natural live / at volume like most others ? Thanks

[@rgbplumbinghilton]

@@QuickSticks8771 I don't do anything with mine except adjust the bass, mid and treble on each amp.

[@davelanciani-dimaensionx]

I was looking at this pedal, the NUX Amp Academy, an HX Stomp, the Humboldt Simplifier, and a few other options. I finally decided on the cheapest option available - the Joyo Preamp House R-15. No programming, no micro/sub menus, no edit software, no delay or reverb, just the pedal, with 9 amps (a clean and a dirty option for each). Just turn the knobs and save one clean and one dirt preset. That's it. Plain and simple. Oh, it does have an FX loop. And sounds great.

[@djabthrash]

These tones sound amazing

[@trickfall8752]

I've been very happy with the ToneX and combined with an H90 it's been my choice for low volume home practice and recording. I think some of the software UI will improve over time and I think they intended the workflow to be that you would solely use the software to play and tweak your presets and then transfer them over to the unit. I think it would make a lot of sense for IK to add some kind of social media style upvoting and commenting to the amp captures. Also the ability to tip someone for a cool capture would be nice. Also, I've found it helpful to name all of my captures starting with my initials. So for example, "TF DRRI Clean" This way when I search the library for "TF" all of my captures come up.

[@LeonTodd]

I've got this sitting on a board with an H90 and it's pretty glorious!

[@musicman4christjesus]

I'm definitely using Yonex Max on my pedalboard on an old iPhone 6s Plus!! It hardly uses CPU which is awesome!!! I piared it with my analog dirt pedals. In the iPhone I'm using AUM which hosts Tonex as AUv3 plugin along with Eventide Blackhole Reverb! Totally amazing tones all running at 24 bit 96khz on the Xtone Pro interface! The Dumble ODS #0080 paired with a Bad Cat 30 Chime Cab is absolutely worth the price of everything! I will be using this live at church for worship! Great video LT!

[@dennis288]

Leon thanks for another Excellent demo. EQ is an overlooked effect for sure. Pre or Post it will sculpt your sound to perfection. I love your videos!

[@ToneDeth.]

30 minutes! Let me close my free Neural Amp Modeller Dirty Shirley capture and strap in!

[@JohnMcGFrance]

Loved the JTM45 capture, but all sounded great. Thanks for the demo.

[@hoosierdaddy2308]

This is already so interesting to me.. For the price. I'd never use it to capture, but I'd use others captures.. 😛 Your captures sound outstanding already man! God that MP1 is heavenly! :-) Love those preamps! Very cool.. I agree, the compressor was a strange choice. It must have been easy to include or something. I love the gain. The MP1 sounds best to me so far of the models you've captured sir! Of course, I'm bias for the MP1.. The synergy thing sounded like it lost signal or something. Strange! The cleans I thought were good sir! Man, I"m loving those Lace pickups the more I hear them on here.. Wow.. I'm going to have to build another strat just for some Lace pickups.. Dammit.. 😛 Have a great day my friend.. I'm off to rest after working hard at the diner.. Be safe sir! I hope you didn't get any of the bad weather there.. I heard there was a cyclone on the western part of the country? That software is a little weak if you ask me.. It would be frustrating I can see ..

[@valueofnothing2487]

Every time I click on these videos, I always think someone is going to make some cool music with new tech. And it is always the same heavy rock, treble pickup, high gain, fizzy stuff. Over and over on millions of channels. Ola's channel alone proves that this type of sound can achieved now with nearly any amp. And you kind of tricked me because you said you had criticisms of this pedal - but of course it was not the sound.

[@artysanmobile]

I hear you, loud and clear. Electric guitar is a very versatile instrument and you wouldn’t know it from KZbin demos of preamps. You might check Michael Nielsen and Leo Gibson sites for a more musically flexible look at these devices. Each is a brilliant composer and player as well as being very astute about the market and technologies. You will hear not only beautiful clean tones, you will hear them applied. Best of luck.

[@BrettKingman]

Great stuff, LT! I have one here too. Hopefully will get around to exploring this week. All the best!

[@LeonTodd]

Looking forward to hearing what you do with it!

[@rejuvenator8966]

Absolutely agree with the desperate need for lo-cut and hi-cut! It needs to be implemented into all the cab modes, including a full amp+cab capture. Honestly blows my mind they left this out. I can understand from the point of view that Tonex was only computer software first, in DAW slapping lo-pass and hi-pass ain't such big deal, but a live pedal format for gigging... Can't believe they don't have it. Way to cripple your own device

[@Sylvain44]

About the workflow to edit the presets, you can put the Tonex pedal in interface mode (Global Settings > Operation > Interface) and then you can tweak the presets and try them at the same time on the pedal. When you're happy with the sound, you can copy it to the pedal.

[@MrBossei]

Great review! I’ve had HX Stomp, Headrush etc but Tonex gives me the right sound, feel and dynamics with monitors for the first time. I don’t have use for a big pedalboard so for me: no negatives at all. I love it! Only wish there was a built in delay as well.

[@LeonTodd]

Yeah I'd love a delay option!

[@Malburn]

Your criticisms are spot on, I hope IK take note and do something with that clunky software. It's a great little device though, I think your right that it may well become a classic.

[@edisoncoelho9041]

That JTM45 capture is making look to some of my gear here in a really dark way 😅… Man I’ve already tried so many modellers and pedals to achieve this tone… this is my dream tone, man. Please never delete this capture from the library 😅

[@idlevandal69]

Thanks for supplying the pedal Kev... 🥇Thanks for the review Leon...

[@Ryan-no5bf]

Tonex is a game changer in size format and amp sounds ratio. But the good ends there. They have a ton of work to do in terms of usability. That being said, I have in on my main rig with a Helix Stomp XL. Ridiculous combo. Excited to see Tonex hopefully make continued improvements.

[@montereycalifornia]

That Ada mp1 sounded better than my ada with extra dist pedal. That was like a killer thick double sound. Sick!

[@heavybrett-al4082]

I'm still playing with the IR's you gave us👍🙏 so I don't pretend I know how this capture revolution all works....but it sure is interesting... watching the technology quite rapidly become affordable and more accessible. Sounds bloody awesome to me!

[@ROKZLEON]

A fair and honest review!!! Thanks Leon!!! 👍🏻

[@trevortwigg1384]

Actually I like the stereo out. I send one of the outs directly to my FRFR for a wet/dry/wet setup. Sent the wet effects to PA.

[@IrLosin]

That ADA sounds so great. Might be because I grew up in the 80's but that is just the ultimate tone for that era of hard rock and metal. Of course I downloaded it right away.

[@LeonTodd]

It's THE sound

[@hectorrodriguez165]

@@LeonTodd Hi Todd - which IR did you use for the ADA?

[@ThomasAlexander-t9y]

wow i became a fan the minute you played ratt.badass playing.hello fromTexas.

[@madmmx18976]

You can place an EQ anywhere in the Kemper. Before or after preamp… after cab or even at the output

[@drosspunter]

Those are some great sounding captures. I like how you made them without cabs. That makes it easier. I especially like the JVM410H. Thanks.

[@LeonTodd]

Glad you like them!

[@NikolajChristensen]

Sounds fantastic. Just a detail, the Kemper does allow you to move the EQ around too.

[@algorithm007ify]

Yes and you can have multiple EQ blocks.

[@darrencpayne]

Thanks ever so much for the captures, must have been time consuming. Your critique is spot on but I still love the sound and the fact that you can strap it on your board and enjoy a wealth of amps and run with it. Cheers

[@BoardMods]

26:00 I couldn't even figure out how to do this. Thanks Leon!

[@danielo.m.288]

Thank you Mr.

[@DeathMetalDevin]

awesome job on these captures man, thanks for showing us the goods

[@enricoincognito8595]

This is the first video i see showing bigger flaws and getting deep into things. I hope the filter bubble in favor ok ik multimedia, i was stucking the last months in, will disapear over time... Thanks dude

[@christarwitch]

Took the words right out of my mouth! Great vid. Thank you!

[@buddachile]

FX loop not needed. You don't need to have your effects after the power amp but before the speaker cab, after the cab is fine and traditionally where time based effects were added for recording the music you've loved all your life.

[@RECTIFIER101]

Great job !! Captures sound sick!!

[@jesterraj]

Nicely done Kev

[@Cherry_Sunburst]

EXCELLENT review, thanks a lot!!!

[@LeonTodd]

My pleasure!

[@ToneDeth.]

The other issue with capture is the static nature of them. Often captures won't need tweaking because the whole point is they're a great sound right out of the box for the really good ones. But everybody is diffferent. I think Leo Gibson did the math if you want to capture every setting on even a simple amp like friedman pink taco it'd take 30,000 plus captures and over 400 days of amp training. Alternatively, it might be possible to capture the each knob range? Like run the bleep bloops through and it prompts you to turn Bass knob full range back and forth, then prompts you to do gain knob etc.

[@LeonTodd]

Yeah that video Leo did is GREAT. Very curious to see where potential hybrid approaches go.

[@BrianVallotton]

Leo is an amazing guy! Love his music and his vids.

[@Patrick-857]

Problem with that is that the knobs interact with each other on tube amps.

[@seanclancyguitar]

Imagine this as an amp + Fm3, amp is in the FX loop and the Fm3 controls the patch change of the tonex over Midi!

[@FastRedPonyCar]

Personal opinion: FM3 sounds better as the “amp”. Only reason I’d consider toneX with the FM3 is if I needed all of the fractal cpu for effects and none left for an amp/cab block

[@MotoRiff77]

I use it in my Helix rack loop, works great allowing me to use high dsp effects!

[@gerrydaly5409]

Thanks for sharing your captures

[@LeonTodd]

My pleasure!

[@DimKAt21]

Little Tonex can't cope with Bogner's humongous testacles.

[@crunchwrapsupremium1053]

🤣😂🤣😂 got me there...good one.

[@666tonsofsquirrels]

Would love to see contemporary metal tones in future reviews of gear 🤘🏿

[@figtheoryvlog]

The main drawback is that you need 2. I think they have done an amazing job. Captures require a lot less processing than models, so they are able to use an inexpensive chip and make it sound awesome. Their ecosystem is great, but become bulky when you add all the pieces with 2 tonex pedals.

[@lorenmorgan1931]

I agree. They need to make a Helix/Headrush killer that has Amplitube, and can run 5 instances of Tonex. Their AIR speaker models are nothing short of game changing and I think is the most overlooked feature of Amplitube. Wondering if this is the end all goal, however they are dropping low cost interfaces at NAMM so it will be at least a year before we see somthing like this. Headrush seems to be king of this world right now, so that's who will get my money. NAMM isn't portable sadly lol

[@BS-gj5ot]

another great review, thanks

[@LesPaulVOS]

I’m bit confused on usage. Is this a a good pedalboard option. That is. Dirt in front with delay snd chorus etc after direct into an audio interface or foh board? As usual. Excellent content.

[@drloqutis2492]

My not so favorite thing is the lack of an effects loop!

[@mkbmkbmkb]

I think the biggest problem with user captures is that most people don't know how to mic a cab, or don't always have the best environment for miking a cab. The vast majority of captures include the cab and they are usually cringy. Tonex allows you to "disable" the cab but it's using some sort of algorithm to remove it and it just does not work well.

[@StereoAnthony]

Every time I watch videos on these new Tonex captures I think someone somewhere with lots of time and money has or will rent a proper studio out and spend months capturing as many amps and cabs as possible. If I were a guitarist, that's what I'd be doing, but I'm a drummer and have software like Superior Drummer that's already done it for me.

[@MichaTulik]

Thats exactly my experience with theTonex. Its like for one good capture there is 20 that are bad/mediocre. I think that paid capture packs is the way to go.

[@FuzzWoof]

Yup, I've found some captures that make me absolutely love the ToneX more than anything else I've owned, but trawling through the user captures is definitely a lesson in just how many people have no idea how to record guitar, haha. I know tone is in the ear of the beholder and all that, but some of them sound like they recorded a transistor practice amp under a pile of blankets down the end of a hallway.

[@FastRedPonyCar]

A tale as old as time. This was the only life we had as Kemper owners back like 10 years ago when it came out and there weren’t any pro captures.

[@chrisdekker1108]

I love the tonex pedal! Use it in the 1st send and return in my Helix rack. Not using the virtual IR or IR loader. I use the Helix IR loader

[@GerhardGeficky-jg4ok]

What is the learning curve like for these new units? I'm a fairly simple player . I always focused on my playing rather than effects because the guitar is so hard to Master.

[@Awesomelvis]

Delay instead of reverb would be cool, would also like to see the option of a boost instead of a compressor

[@MostlyElectrolytes]

Very cool device, have a friend that has one and loves it, but I couldn't agree more about editing at the component level. I love the idea of profiles/captures on paper, but I'd pull my hair out coming from an AxeFXIII. I don't need 200 different amps, but I need to be able to pick the one I want and start from scratch.

[@LeonTodd]

Totally agree!

[@ParanormalResponse]

How does ToneX stand up going straight into a cab. I wish more people would make videos that do not require speaker sims. I love my cab and the sounds it poduces, but will these things be any good through it?

[@coretonecaptures]

I'm pretty sure the weird captures were dropouts in the capture process, i was told to try increasing your buffer if it happens during the capture process

[@CentaurusRelax314]

Exactly my thoughts, re: the criticisms of this thing. I had it for a few weeks and struggled to resolve a long list of issues. After most of them were answered, i was still left with one or two glitchy problems, but the most frustrating was that the app did not operate as an editor for the pedal. I would have kept the ToneX pedal had there been even basic integration between the app and the hardware. But, i returned it and i'll stay with my Kemper for a while longer. The ToneX sounds great, though.... Maybe i'll revisit it in a year, if the UI has been evolved, but as it stands, it's a ridiculous mishmash of two many independent elements, with illogical layouts and integration. If you're the kind of person who just wants to play the pedal out of the box, or maybe just load in a handful of profiles and then not rely on the app again, it's probably a great device. But, i am used to the Kemper and having constant interfacing between the editor and the device. in fact, i never even touch the Kemper itself-all the manipulation is in Rig Manager. Which is simple to use and just makes sense-and this is after i used to think it was kludgy. But, in comparison to ToneX, Rig Manager is brilliant.

[@LeonTodd]

Yeah when cheap stuff like the NUX/Mooer modellers have full software editors it makes you wonder why 'industry leaders" can't get one done for launch.

[@michelvondenhoff9673]

Pedals and the lot should be made with ergonomics first in mind. It may sound like a million but if you can't get your sounds sorted its of no use live.

[@fuegosatsuma868]

love you Kev x

[@user-nu7xx7pc1d]

great video as usual!!!

[@LeonTodd]

Thanks again!

[@elwrongo]

Great review, thanks so much. I think a mic preamp XLR input with phantom power would be good then its your interface too. Software looks clunky but so is a lot of amp sim software. NI's Guitar Rig is horrid too. The Deluxe Reverb capture you did sounds aces. Should Plague Scythe get a link?

[@Jabbaerwocky]

Sounds like clipping of the Analogue to Digital Converter with captures of ultra high-gain amps like the Überschall.

[@r.llynch4124]

for 400 bucks it sounds pretty killer., it does capture too with some extra gear.

[@pnwdrifter5680]

Agreed. It’s a stellar model player pedal at a good price. It’s not going to have every possible feature for everyone, but that price…. You can capture incredibly accurate captures or your amps with your personal knob settings. This is crucial. A generic capture by an engineer who hasn’t or doesn’t know how to squeeze every drop of tone out of the amp, gives you a model that is not the best possible version of that for you. Bring all your boutique amps best sounds to the gig. For the price of not much more than a good quality boost pedal.

[@trevortwigg1384]

I really wish that it had the ability to do 4cm built in and also to choose a cab IR for one out and not for another.

[@ronnieparker2546]

17:39 Zep nailed

[@truescotsman4103]

I'm getting ready to purchase either this unit or the Boss GT1000 Core. So far I'm sold on the Boss unit because of the reviews and the reputation Boss has and especially the 32bit AD/DA. This unit is cheaper but you know what they say, you get what you pay for. I've seen some of the reviews this unit sounds great. Has great effects. The GT1000 competes with Fractal and Helix. Unless you can hear these units in person you can't really tell what's going to reach you. I'm going to try the Boss unit I can always return it. I don't think I'll be disappointed.

[@davelouis4004]

I’ve got a core , totally pleased !

[@dominicgibson9529]

Nice one, Kevvo, mate...good on ya!✌

[@Gatecreeper69]

Metal preamp pedal shootout next? :) recently downsized from an or100 and orange 4x12 to a fender 59 bassman combo to save my poor ol’ back. The combo slays and I feel like a rabbit hole of preamp pedals is about to appear. Would love a video on that kinda thing. Revv 3, be-od, victory v1 kraken ect Nice videos you are an absolute gem of a resource and seem like a top bloke :)

[@LeonTodd]

Much appreciated mate :)

[@hanovergreen4091]

Hey Boss. Lace Sensors in the Strat at the end? What type are they and do they still have a bit of sterile sound or what? Thank You for the video/information and Best Regards and Best Wishes!

[@LeonTodd]

Yeah golds. I really like them

[@scottpeters4401]

Bit of a different perspective,but I find no difference in searching for a good capture,than say scrolling thru 10,000 IR’s on any other device…some are very good…others not so much….I do agree that there could definitely be improvements on the editor,or lack thereof…..at the end of the day,being able to accurately capture my amps and stick them on a board,or straight into my AxeFXIII is well worth $400,even with the preset/editor challenges…guitar amps also aren’t stereo…you just run your FX behind the ToneX like you would an amp,no loop needed…but I don’t really care about the FX,I have that covered…It’s a great piece of gear that will only get better!

[@LeonTodd]

Like with IR's, make your own and save a ton of scrolling and auditioning!

[@bassblom]

I recently quit my live impro band, going solo in reaper and all.. almost bought the tonex pedal but then came NAM.. and now things got more crazy, just ordered the i/o one thing 😛

[@Killadey]

I'm tempted to sell my vintage modern to buy this.

[@JayTheLane]

Useful video. I agree that the app is not very intuitive.

[@algorithm007ify]

I am waiting for Kemper with liquid profiling .....

[@heikohesse4666]

hi, thanks for this video and explaining the presets functionality (I'm a new ToneX owner) - it's a cool device but managing the presets an models are little bit frustrating 😎

[@LeonTodd]

Hopefully they fix this in the future

[@DAPS-bl7ez]

Do you plan to cover the new Tonex One pedal? - it looks amazing!!

[@matsukadub-official]

the bug sounds like the sampling has clipped (overload/saturation) on the specific notes ? digital clipping can produce silence (flat oscillation at max level = no sound) , that's why I think it could be due to clipping...

[@seanpearson3600]

Question for you, Could you use the ToneX with a Boss Katana MKII amp as a live rig and have it sound good?

[@FastRedPonyCar]

Yeah. Remove cab sim and run the tone X into the fx loop to just use the katana’s power section.

[@aelxaelx]

You always seem to have so much fun dialing the Fractals you show on the channel, by comparison this one was painful to watch... :)

[@LeonTodd]

Axe-Edit really is a joy to use

[@DiamondDuck]

I've been getting some great sounds with the Tonex VST, but the software is clunky as hell, and the pedal is not ready for the big time. But the platform could be great if users with sick amp collections fill it with great captures.

[@davem7632]

Might be my speakers, but it sounds a bit fizzy, and "messy" at times.

[@Kickback79]

Yeah not loving the fizzy tones. The tone quality is not there imo. I’m passing sticking with my Axe fx2 and Kemper.

[@MeTuLHeD]

Agreed. I thought I was the only one hearing this. It's like reaching the headroom limits in digital recording. Digital clipping.

[@heliobluesrock]

Interesting, specially for a player like me, I mean, a non-professional player who always pops headphones on. BTW, that's the reason I think they should put a send/return loop in it, instead of a stereo output. It's just my potential user opinion. :) Thanks!

[@scottrand4857]

Leon, thank you for sharing your captures for free. However...if one only has the PC version, we can not access them. Another channel, Tone Junkie, managed to make a capture of a "Purple Plexi" and through a link on his site I was able to import that capture. Is there any way you could look into that? Your captures...especially the ADA MP1 caught my attention since I had both the MP1 and MP2 back in the day. Thanks for at least considering this. Great job showing the pro's and con's of the unit.

[@fytakytemusic]

Spot on observation about the computer app/plug-in - it is super-clunky and un-user friendly. I don’t have the pedal, but I have the paid app/plug-in, and I was very impressed at how well it captured my favourite signal chain. I love the way I can record direct using MY individual sound just by calling up a plug-in preset…. But finding my capture again in the app/plug-in is ridiculously convoluted! IK needs to make it simple to find things, and by the looks of the pedal, the UI has a long way to go… but you’re right - 1st world problems- How spoilt are guitarists in 2023?!?!

[@ryanburchett8455]

My main complaint is that I simply think it isn't as good as Neural DSP for ease of use or stereo width in my DAW. The Quad Cortex seems like an easier device to use too. Also, the effects are better from Neural DSP. Personally, I use the FM3 for real life stuff. The effects can't be beat and it sounds great. Mostly, it's not that expensive for something that does it all and is compact.

[@LeonTodd]

Quad Cortex is also 4 times the price, so if you only need a capture player this makes a lot of sense. For price/tone/size the FM3 is in a real sweet spot IMO which makes it one of my favourite pieces of gear ever.

[@CrazyBiscuit]

Luv you Kevin❤❤❤. I bought it, I used and I sold it, I got my FM9 and Couldn’t be more happier.

[@LeonTodd]

The FM9 is incredibly deep hey. What amps/effects are you enjoying?

[@MicCostanzo]

I see more and more test videos that try to touch the ToneX pedal more critically and mostly overshoot the mark a bit with the benchmarks. As a few other comments here have already written, I will also wait with a purchase until the next version or the next development. The FX loop criticism is bullshit, but would make sense if the pedal still gets a power amp. And of course an XLR for the IR. And then it would be a 100% competitor for Kemper and QC. Sorry, but the profiling already beats the Kemper and the QC would have to be cut in half price wise to remain relevant then. What IK have done there is a game changer and if I worked at Kemper I would have many sleepless nights.

[@Cpt_Adama]

Kemper doesn't have an FX loop either and with a complete pre-amp/power-amp capture/picture not really feasible. I suppose you could do it with 2 Tonex pedals by capturing a pre-amp on one and a power amp on the other and then insert your effects between them. Really only modelers not capture/profilers are going to be able to have an FX loop.

[@LeonTodd]

I'm not suggesting being able to place something between the pre/power amp like an fx loop on an amp, more a "stereo insert" that can be placed after the amp/cab and routed to the stereo outs or headphones

[@tacos666]

After all the hype... it's the best unit in the entire universe, i will sell my all amp collection...please... i can't stand these "review"/adds anymore... Thank you for your honest review, greatly appreciated ! This is what we need to decide if we want the unit or not, plus and minus cause there are always some minus. Great Job Leon, as usual !

[@LeonTodd]

Much appreciated mate! Took a while to put this one together so I'm glad it hits the right spots.

[@davidriggs8196]

The kemper is able to place the EQ pre or post n the Rig Manager software.

[@Taylor___]

Me …. New amp. Straight to the heaviest channel. Gain on 10. If it can’t chug and hasn’t got enough gain for shredding then I don’t wanna knowwwww

[@gitarbangsatchanel8036]

Hi leon..what exactly ir u use.. original Lt tv mix ?

[@MantusRietBaalberith]

My big problem with the ToneX Pedal from a bass players point of view is that there's no way to send the signal out the second output without the IR.

[@Willjrockstar]

12:05 you captured the sound of the gain over saturating the preamp tubes. My Triaxis didnt do this until i switched the pre tubes out to tung sol and my Soldano x88 stopped making that sound when i dialed back the pre tubes, so this was all i was left with.

[@LeonTodd]

I've never had that issue with any of my amps or preamps before

[@Willjrockstar]

@@LeonTodd Yeah triaxis was my first encounter. I usually run my gains between 5.5 and 7.0 max, so it wasnt a big thing for me. I didnt notice tone differences, so outta sight outta mind. Thanks for the reply. Great vid as always.

[@Willjrockstar]

@@LeonTodd Hey man, where can i reach you in private?

[@timhopkins3810]

Hi Leon. The Tonex is a great pedal and agree that a negative is definitely that other people don’t capture their amps as I would want them and so would require more tweaking - potentially more than on a modeller. The thing I like most about Tonex is that I’ve captured my own amps exactly as I want and then can take them wherever I go. I use it with my board which includes an hx stomp so is a pretty powerful tool 😊

[@LeonTodd]

Pretty much my feelings too, I really like the captures I've made of my amps and that's pretty much enough for me!

[@bradchervel5202]

The preset that Taylor Danley used yours sounded sick on NAM. Tonex seems a bit clunky but much easier than Nam to interface with

[@LeonTodd]

Yeah NAM is basically a passion project that's had a user base explode very quickly. I'm sure they'll come up with some more streamlined workflow with it, but for someone used to modellers ToneX is seamless

[@davidlambert5123]

I ended up getting the Tonex pedal about a week ago. I really like it. I am running it in the loop of the AxeFx 3. I like a lot of the captures! I still need to experiment with using the drive captures in front of a real amp (with the IR shut off) I think the thing I like the most is the Plate reverb…I really like that a lot for some reason. Glad you have some captures up!! Your Axefx patches have been great, I’m sure these captures will be great as well! Are you going to capture your Marshall JMP-1? I had one of those back in the day…kind of miss it. Haha

[@LeonTodd]

Yeah I'll dust off the JMP-1 and capture it over the next week or so, fun unit. The Axe-Fx JMP-1 is pretty much sot on as well.

[@JAFOpty]

I really hope amp manufacturers take a note and lower the price of their amps. There is no reason for a tube head to be $2,000 not even US/UK made ones....

[@aivoryuk]

I actually prefer this Mesa iv capture then the one done with NAM as it sounds less stiff