I turned girls planet 999 into REAL competition

[@everglowup]

part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYvJh6aca9R2o9E

[@reveluvies2447]

It's actually really cool to see Solji as a vocal mentor because before she was in EXID, she was their vocal coach.

[@yuri-tq4ed]

@@WitnessEra who gaf

[@randomkpopstuff7589]

Solji was literally a mentor in Boys Planet...Like for real.

[@Layla-td1pl]

I would also add Eunji from APink. I think she'd be an excellent mentor for vocals.

[@saomsang]

​@@yuri-tq4ed who hurt you

[@xrrgr]

@@saomsang the person they replied to probably said smth stupid before deleting

[@ibrahimjama2080]

I wished they covered a Chinese or a Japanese song so it’s fair for all the contestants.

[@carmenmayo317]

Yes, like they did in pd48

[@TT-ee1vv]

Me too

[@whatlikeitshardd]

But this is kpop, they need to sing in korean once they debut so they should sing in korean for the show missions too.

[@carmenmayo317]

@@whatlikeitshardd Maybe they could include one japanese song and one chinese song in one of the first missions? That way, they could showcase their strengths without worrying about the language for the moment

[@k_n_c_y]

@@whatlikeitshardd but groups often promote in other countries (Japan and US mostly), so it would make sense for at least one mission to incorporate songs from those countries.

[@lovelypanda8676]

I'd be fine with just one change: Do NOT accept trainees that you don't want in your group ffs. I'm sick of the evil editing, the mind games, the riggory, the manipulation.

[@Layla-td1pl]

10000% agree.

[@aplant179]

with only 40 total contestants instead of 99 Mnet could actually do this

[@chiquibombom1460]

The judges and mentors part is the one that I was waiting for the most because the judges on both planet shows were just not professional and helpful at all. I even said that some contestants acted more like judges (Hui) and judges acted more like contestants. This method makes sense the most since it is just so much more practical and fair for everyone involved

[@yuri-tq4ed]

@@WitnessEra a job is needed

[@chiquibombom1460]

@@yuri-tq4ed a life is needed

[@havensohn3821]

Actually the mentors commented that they actually do help the trainees out its just that mnet chooses not to air those moments. They want drama for the ratings I guess.

[@MROYvids]

Park Hanbin was THE mentor of Boys Planet lol

[@mayusachess]

Hui was the best ❤ I miss him so much

[@that617]

The judges being allowed to vote who gets eliminated probably wouldn't work in reality because it allows mnet to rig. Watching boys planet, it was apparent there was a bias towards k group when they were giving out the star status in Ep1, and the handing out of three stars to popular/people they liked, to build up hype and anticipation. It's clear Mnet does tell them what to do somewhat.

[@biancam8441]

i think that it would only work if the judges had to follow the rules where they have to eliminate a certain number of people from each cell, or else yeah i can envision them just eliminating global trainees

[@that617]

@@biancam8441 even then they could eliminate popular c trainees they don't want. Ex. boys planet again, the way they cut rickys screentime because of his popularity, they could've easily just had him eliminated. The judge thing is cool in theory but mnet is too sketchy for this to truly work

[@reveluvly]

your choice of mentors was PERFECT, and this system makes so so so much more sense. Consider me upset this isn’t the show we got

[@az23-j]

Honestly this was really well thought and designed. Hope Mnet watches this vid when they make their next survival show😂

[@fatimamalik5926]

I dont think that they will ever do bcz their main purpose is to garner attention by creating drama hence the final line up is a result of that and everything about that show is rigged

[@az23-j]

@@fatimamalik5926 Your probably right. But if you really think abt it, wouldn't a competition with less people who are close in skill and talent be more exciting than a competition with 99 contestants half of whom are nowhere near the rest? I think it'd also make the judges actually judge decently and point out nuances compared to just stuff any normal person can see.

[@fatimamalik5926]

@@az23-j yes I 100% agree in this way everyone would have gotten equal screentime to showcase their talent too but I think this is all just a fantasy that we are making up in our heads right now😅

[@az23-j]

@@fatimamalik5926 Haha yea, maybe one day tho😭

[@mystical_pegasus]

I don’t watch survival shows like this but this would actually interest me because it focuses more on the talent and what the trainee can do. The missions actually sound fun and showcases what the trainees can do. The age and training time requirements are needed as well.

[@Gemstones1000]

Please it's the "Whole Family Dynasty" / Ant colony for me.....😂😂😂

[@dffdw2]

Love these ideas. Some of the big problems of these shows are addressed, but I'm so glad the judging aspect was shown. I hated the bias some mentors have, like I was always confused on their decisions/comments. They needed to be more objective.

[@gabyveronicacastanedadiaz471]

i love how the mentors in this improved version actually HELP the trainess and not just judge them knowing they are just rookies omg i always hate that

[@academycute101]

I feel that Chuang (Produce Camp) did a decent job of showcasing all or a large chunk of the contestants through their variety and BTS (Behind the Scenes) KZbin content (although I think it did drain many of the contestants' energy). I believe that a modified version of the outside/BTS content would help people feel more connected to the contestants. It would have to premier within the same timeline as the more edited series and not after weeks/months of the show airing. As we have seen with multiple produce/survival groups, when more BTS content comes out, people are more willing to vote for or realize how amazing certain contestants are.

[@goodietwoshoes7238]

I love most of the idea especially the one where only ages 16+ are allowed and the fixed ratio of the group and contestants. Plus the missions especially the stars one is so innovative and fun omg It really tests the participants' ability to strategize and gauge their limits/strengths - this part could show who's really suited for being a leader imo. *The elimination mechanics was BRILLIANT.* I initially thought I wanted an elimination where the judges (same as you I'd prefer it if the judges and mentor are separate so there would be no bias) will score the trainees based on their missions and the least ranking people would be subject for elimination - what the fans can then do is vote for the contestants they wanna save. This will guarantee that only the most talented are safe but will probably, most likely, compromise the popularity of the group (since the least scorers might have the most popular people in there). Having yours would balance both talent and popularity better -- but now thinking about it, that's disregarding the fact that fans will probably vote for their picks to be in the safezone regardless of talent and there's a possibility that only talented people might be in the danger zone so I guess your method still has room for improvement? Since it still sliiiiiiightly compromises talent. Maybe a mix of judge scoring from the mission and fan votes for the safe zone? Idk. *For the limit of 2 years training experience:* I'm not too sure - there could be independent trainees (who haven't gone on training under a company at all) that are very talented like kim jaehwan (wanna one's main vocalist). In produce japan, most of them were independent trainees that never received training but there were hidden gems like kawanishi takumi (great performer and expressions, vocals were developed throughout the show). I think instead of setting a limit of training experience, I'll just let the audition phase be stricter instead of letting just anybody in. afaik, they hold auditions to determine who the participating trainees will be.

[@goodietwoshoes7238]

This was a great video! Sorry my comment is pretty long... I got too invested. As usual you put a lot of thought in your vids, it's amazing

[@everglowup]

​@@goodietwoshoes7238 don't apologize, I loved your opinions!! 💙

[@goodietwoshoes7238]

@@everglowup omg got noticed 🤧 seriously though mnet or any other survival shows should really consider your ideas, it's too good and very well planned 😭

[@SebasDCuadrosA]

I usually don't watch long K-pop videos, but oh my goodness, everything about the video, from the editing to the rearrangement of the competition, is absolutely amazing!🙌 I hope MNET producers take note of your fantastic ideas and start coming up with similar ones. Keep up the great work!😁

[@DreamyCheshire-up9rf]

Bravo ! MNET should employ you or buy your ideas for the next season of survival show. Well done !

[@arniyoon]

wow this video is sooo impressive!!! I think I would actually watch a survival show like this! The thing that ALWAYS bothered me when I watched the produce series was the amount of participants and their lack of screentime... that's why maybe I enjoyed iland way more because I could actually remember all of them and get to know them more.... although I'm not saying iland was a flawless show don't get me wrong hahaha aaand I don't really watch survival shows anymore they are to stressful for me hahaha

[@dreamcaught3876]

i dont see an issue with trainees using these shows as experience, especially when there are a lot of contestants that quickly go home. its always good to get more experience performing in front of a crowd and a trainee probably doesnt get a lot of that. i like how my teenage girl did it, where everyone got a chance to perform and get feedback but there was the core group that was taken to be the survival contestants

[@FlyAwaySongbird]

i like this set up! it's very interesting. the one thing i'd change tho is for mission 3, i'd have one of the korean groups work with the c-girls and the other korean group to work with the j-girls. even though they're doing separate songs, because their points add up together they'll need to discuss and coordinate among themselves to find a strategy that works for everyone. it'd disadvantage the C/J girls who'll have a language barrier and they won't be able to strategize and work together the way the korean girls will. splitting the k-girls so that one team earns points with J and the other with C, will mean all of them will have varying levels of language difficulties and have to overcome that to strategize and make sure both teams win the most amount of stars

[@AlejandraSegura1]

Omgggg this video must have taken so much time to make. I would so watch this!

[@arniyoon]

You explained in this video what the format of everything would ect. but have you thought of like the fillers? like the side 'fun' activities in between missions that would let us get to know the trainees better? would love to hear you opinion on that.... (this is my second comment hahah)

[@XJYNCT]

Cheryl, your editing and presentation skills are seriously amazing. I've been watching you since 2021, and my god, the quality has gotten better for each video. Thanks for your hard work 💜 😊

[@eunchae-rafim]

this was actually very good period. i love how well analysed this was, organised, a voting system that makes sense. judges and mentors actually coming into play, and the choice of missions. and let's not even talk about the editing cuz it actually devoured, and serve whatever it had to. out of context but i see myself as a bigger star creator then a planet guardian, so i really hope in the near future we could maybe see you re-do boys planet aswell, cuz damn wasnt that messy too😧

[@nickysoicky]

the same thing happened to ioi! pd101 originally didn't do well and the group wasn't the best, but the groups after it (wanna one, x1, iz*one) did WAYYY better

[@RUKA_BABYMONST7R]

Did izone do good?

[@revechae]

i think this is a very good well planned out idea i love this vid. the only thing i disagree with is probably the training years. i agree not joining survival shows solely for experience but 2 years is a LOONG time and some people are truly capable of being as good as other idols with less than a year

[@gothgirlglittercrust7118]

The only critique I have is: because Koreans are known to be pretty nationalist (you can literally see this ON survival shows with how they evil edit foreign contestants) I think having an episode thats basically just a battle of Koreans vrs. non-Koreans could cause... issues with the general public

[@eyitemiasimolowo8822]

i mean... wasn't that the first mission in boys planet though?

[@onceinamillion5549]

​@@eyitemiasimolowo8822 Yea and almost all the K group contestants won against G groups lol. I believe only 1 (or 2) G group won

[@vampr3751]

@@onceinamillion5549 Well tbh K groups had much better performances 😅

[@fatimamalik5926]

​@@vampr3751 well tbh some of the g groups had better performances than them as well its clearly obvious that the votings were biased

[@nathanflores1974]

Bro imagine having to change the lyrics and melody of a song's verses with something the trainees composed themselves for the planet clash mission. I want that to happen

[@percyjacksoncomingtodisney4453]

unrelated but this reminded me how good we fresh's instrumental actually is im never listening to tiktok stans again

[@sakura_drop]

I already want to watch this show!!!! Good job!

[@alicebrocardo861]

this video is so well made that I now actually want to see this specific of girls' planet in action.

[@Princess_Liliana_Cynthia]

Love your program😭😭 its so fun and more fair to the contestants... *.having diff judges and mentor *Age and trainee period restrictions *The voting system so fair *The ratio member *Even the eliminated contestants have the opportunity to comeback again *Showcasing their talent to the fullest *The frequent changes of team member in doing mission can highlight some contestants that have a great leadership

[@TheBlueClover2012]

This was awesome to watch. The only thing that might need changing is the 3, 6, 9, 12 stars challenge thing in mission 3. I feel like if i were a contestant, no matter how hard a mission is i will still likely pick the 9 and 12 because it makes more sense. Let's say i pick the 3 one, it means no matter how hard i try and how good a show i put on, ill only get 3 in total. But for eg. if i were to do average or half assed a 12 star challenge i might still likely get 3 or 4 stars or more n that's already significantly better. Won't that be a problem? Besides, ppl on international competition will more or less be the ambitious type so it's likely no one will ever wanna pick the 3 stars one unless they are forced into it which might be a problem? just wondering. also, im new here. love your video so imma subscribe. Keep up the great work!

[@akosicvy]

i didn’t know i needed girl’s planet 999 (cheryl’s version) but i am here sitting down and consuming every second of it just as i guiltily did for the og one

[@Winnangh]

this just became one of my favorite youtube videos ever

[@woneverdive]

omg this video was sooo much fun to watch! now i just need this to be an actual show 🥲

[@laharichowdhury9395]

What also happened with Boys' Planet was that even the netizens themselves chose someone with better looks, or an adorable personality rather than talent.

[@luen9417]

The editing is amazing

[@duhkyungsoo]

giiiirl i love the new edit! thats fire

[@hyemhyemu410]

THIS IS SO GENIUS, as expected cheryl!!💙

[@xsomili5501]

Your decision to seperate judges with the contestants should really be applied by survival shows! The judges on gp999 were just ........

[@Eunwoo29409]

Love your work Cheryl such a great editing improvements

[@smhall02]

I do really like this idea, though I am a little confused about the training rule. Would it have to be only trainees in a company or could contestants be in a school/training academy? Also, I really like the idea of them being able to choose their groups and what they do. I think choosing your own song would be a little tricky with copyright and everything. But other than this is a good idea for a show that actually appreciates talent! (Also your editing is amazing!!!)

[@mistrm5729]

thank you. thank you so much. I appreciate the effort you put in for this video.

[@kyrat6079]

I liked that you had to vote for the same number of people from k c and j group for the first few episodes, and i dont think not having a fixed ratio would have been a problem if they hadnt switched the voting in the last episode. If it really is an international group then people should all have the same voting power. Almost all groups promote in japan and a lot have songs in japanese and english, either songs with a korean and a japanese/eng version or new songs specifically in that language ex twice or bts. Their main promos are in korea but so many groups are targeting international fans that it doesnt make sense for them to have korean votes count more than international ones in the end.

[@felisitasartemisiarerung3173]

Hmm for the elimination itself I think the judges eliminatiom can be manipulated? Since it from judges perspective they can be bribed by the companies or maybe even told by the PD nim to eliminate someone since judges working for the shows, I thinl elimination should be done just by fans since it was from real data (we had the data of the amount of votes), and for missions I agree it choosen by the judges

[@snowflake1762]

I absolutely love your ideas. This actually sounds like it'd be a really promising show, though maybe a little hard to execute. Mnet doesn't seem to like putting effort into things when they know they can still make a profit if they half ass it. My only question is is there still a ratio of 50% korean votes and 50% international? Sorry if you said it in the video and I just missed it.

[@starlightfrost]

Omg finally have been waiting for this!!!

[@perfectfanta1829]

btw how about the very first episode where they give their first performances? will they get to choose their own team and songs? also for fans voting, is there a 50/50 korean/global vote ratio or not? (i hope not 😅)

[@onyxk_a]

I would've added some male mentors because nowadays the 4th grn seems to focus on harder dances and "doing what the men can do" so I would add: Jongho (ATEEZ) for vocals because that man's vocals are out of this world and he's a 4th gen artist so he would be relatable to at least a few of the contestants due to his age. Baekhyun or Chen (EXO) for vocals: I don't need to explain myself here. Taemin for Dance and/or stage presence: It's Taemin. That's the explanation. Joohoney or I.M (Monsta X) for Rap: I love their flow and I think they could really help the contestants with things like breath control and enjoying the music. Obviously I wouldn't add all of them because that defeats the point of the show being girl's planet. But they're defo artists that I'd consider for mentorship

[@awaywiththefaeries9464]

thank you for including an f(x) song!

[@abigailwolff5432]

I would watch this so hard mnet please take notes

[@cleverbotevie1262]

Oh my lord how I love this idea. This would be such a good survival show to watch!!! Fans get to choose while judges can make sure actually talented people make it in the final group. But I can already imagine the hate trains mentors would get for kicking some fan favorite dozen... I am 100% on board with the age restriction and I can see what you wanted to do with the training limit, but what about individual trainees? Sometimes these people are hella talented. My biggest issue though is the number of korean members. I get it they are a kpop group, but if they are supposed to be a 'global group' I believe the ratio should be equal, 15 in each planet. This way it's also easier for the mentors, they can each be assigned one 'planet'. Or at least add 5 more korean trainees since 20 koreans fighting for 5 spots is 4 people/spot, as opposed to chinese and japanese ones, which are 10, 5 people/spot. Anyway, this is a MASSIVE improvement to the show and it would be sooo fun to watch...

[@WooTwiceTeez]

Somethin' good is cooking soon

[@PdPiper-wn2nb]

I really recommend you Peak Time if you are looking for a healthy kpop survival show

[@exph0lieproph3t]

YES OUT GIRL POSTED OMGG

[@LazyFluff]

Now I want to watch your survival show!!

[@ewnolmao]

im not hating on kep1er when saying this but only members I know are xiaoting, bahiyyih, chaehyun, hikaru and yunjin... I forgot there were other people too..

[@abigailturner3108]

Yujin*

[@wonderlucky1912]

Hi! I like Kep1er and Kep1er are 9 members:Xiaoting, Bahiyyih, Chaehyun, Hikaru, Yujin, Mashiro, Yeseo,Youngeun and Dayeon. It’s okay the members you mentioned are the most Popular members. The rest of the members are Youngeun, another main vocalist and All-rounder of Kep1er, Dayeon, another main dancer and rapper and all-rounder, Mashiro-co leader, was a trainee with the Itzy members, Yeseo, a underrated maknae with powerful stage presence.

[@irissu02]

It was interesting but I must disagree in the last mission being just about one position, I think it should be either vocal dance or rap dance, because in the end of the day it is a group to make music and perform so if an idol is not good at dance while rapping or singing they would be, excuse me for the harsh word, « useless », same if one trainee is really good at singing or rapping but can’t dance they’re not qualified to be an idol. Idol is a mix of making music and performing so if one of those part is lacking they shouldn’t be idols in a group, they should just be solo artist 🤷🏼‍♀️ I’m not saying they must be perfect in each but they need to be capable enough and separating dance for rap and singing would not help them learn and would probably leads to some idols being very « bad » compared to the other members in some aspects and it’s not good because idols group should still keep an harmony

[@jumisjam]

agreeed on the center vs face of group!! chae is a great vocalist but she lacks SP... at least compared to a lot of her other members :/ the positions should be made to be beneficial to the group as a whole

[@Yeri-strawberry]

This would be such a good show…..just not on mnet. I mean gp999 was an organizational disaster, but mnets bias and evil editing and fabricated drama was at least 50% of the problem

[@aliiiem7184]

I would 10000% watch this show

[@abelztry7201]

Listen I don’t hate Chaehyun, I even voted for her sometimes, but such a joke that probably the member with less stage presence and charisma of the 9 chosen members. Well everything about Girls Planets was a joke.

[@dianitotalon6475]

Do boys planet

[@lil_loonatic4237]

sending the memo to mnet ASAP

[@Thildia]

A masterpiece, again. That's all

[@xsomili5501]

21:46 I AGREE!!

[@neologyneo]

PLEASE PITCH THIS TO MNET RIGHT TF NOW

[@blackcat6374]

SOMEONE SEND THIS TO MNET. MAYBE THEN THEY WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE A GOOD SURVIVAL SHOW

[@layneo8323]

Both of boys planet centers trained for under 2 years and they are super talented. I think we just need stricter audition process and make sure no fillers added just for laughs

[@raincandy3]

Yes (but red house blue house was iconic 😂)

[@rjkore5229]

Daeul was a sad joke though...poor kid sure he was only a trainee for a few months but he was a victim of mnet evil editing...

[@chenles_defender]

Talent is something you either have or not, it doesn't have to do with how many years you trained.

[@farkhodovakamila7]

@@chenles_defender it's not tho. anything can be trained, can be mastered. hard work will always put you above talented people

[@llamahoop]

@@farkhodovakamila7 yes exactly!! even yeonjun himself said that he was not a good dancer naturally and that he trained and practiced a lot just to dance better

[@cindynguyen5661]

If you watched My Teen Girl, the mentorship in that show was excellent. The show was a mess and the ages of the contestants was horrendous but the mentors were amazing.

[@jadehornedserpent1417]

I would say Soyeon and Aiki were the best members, while Soyeon encouraged individuality and Aiki had to organize the first years who didn't have identities yet. Yuri helped epitomize what an idol was and Ms Ock Joohyun... um

[@baddiewinxpersianluv]

@@jadehornedserpent1417 I think Joohyun helped the contestants on My Teen Girl with their vocal performances a lot, cause some of them really didn’t train beforehand the show and do they definitely did need the mentoring for their vocals cause that wasn’t going to be fixed overnight😭

[@cindynguyen5661]

@@jadehornedserpent1417 right from the start, Ock Joohyun was against mentoring Class 3 because it was mostly made up of ex-YG trainees that were already set in their ways. As a vocal coach, she did a great job coaching all the contestants with their vocals but as a mentor she really clashed with the YG training system.

[@jadehornedserpent1417]

I guess I must have missed some of her vocal coaching, it's true that she's great with vocals. I just don't think she was very appropriate as a mentor for idols specifically - having a vocal mentor is integrated for a system like the produce series, but mtg was more focused on general sp mentors featured I reckon. Yeah the YG system would be annoying to deal with as a properly trained vocalist. (And the hip outfits were really flashy and kinda gaudy for the concept.)

[@Taejiu]

If you can pull of Scream by DC, and I mean PULL IT OFF, you deserve to debut, at least somewhere.

[@moongirl8807]

I think it's so sad that the members have been in the industry for like 10 years and for 6 and a half as Dreamcatcher yet no one ever covers them. We only had the Rolling Quartz one but that doesn't really count since they're already a rock band. And this doesn't even have to do with the fact that they're that popular, they still seem to fly under the radar. No what I mean is exactly what you said here: without being a fan you can acknowledge that most of their choreo is insane and they also do the live singing. Hell, even a Minx song would do. If a rookie can do WDYCTMH and drive on a skateboard and do Siyeon's whistle note, no one would question their abilities, ever. But we haven't seen anything, I can literally only think of 2 snippets from something laid down like a livestream by Purple Kiss and I think Rocket Punch (but that also doesn't really count since they're just big fans of DC). This is the sad thing, idols would probably only cover DC if they were on Queendom bc it's literally the show concept. Is it bc they're too unique and too much of a niche? Not everyone likes their music. Or are their choreos just too intimidating😂

[@moongirl8807]

@Neopearl ugh don't get me started. It seems to have shifted more to a NewJeans sound (thankfully but also not good for multiple reasons). But when Tomboy and Ring ma bell came out I wanted to cry (Yena did it too but she at least made it more fun rock and stuck to it for more than one song). It's ironic bc for years we wanted the recognition and that ppl actually get to appreciate rock. But it was so obvious that this had nothing to do with liking the sound but just being edgy and having this shock value. I hope this isn't taken the wrong way bc I like a lot of groups and still listen to them but just look what they did after their rock inspired cb. Look at the fashion and sound they're using now, and look at all the other groups... and a lot of members from a particular group are friends with Dreamcatcher AND produce themselves so this connection kinda breaks my brain. I mean Dreamcatcher is successful now but I think a lot of people still don't get why it took them that long. There will always be a wave of trends that hyped up the masses but when it came to the Dreamcatcher niche it hurt. Their songs aren't even that hard that casual listeners can't enjoy them. But bandwagon stanning is a HUGE problem, in the industry in general. We can just be glad that Dreamcatcher were the first to get into this niche. Like truly a blessing. The niche is barely big enough for 2 big creepy groups (Purple Kiss being the other and they already have big company backing but even they have to slowly grow).

[@austinwolfdog5175]

As someone who have made multiple little survival shows for fictional groups I really enjoyed how you made all of this

[@everglowup]

tyty austin

[@xrrgr]

lol me in my daydreams

[@flykatfly0918]

Sameeee

[@chiquibombom1460]

The editing here is GIVING CHERYL. Absolutely love the work you put into this video 💙

[@olyvia8599]

For the training period I was going to say 9 months minimum, there are plenty of idols who only had to train for 9 months and were some of the most talented members. (Doyoung of NCT and Niki of enhypen) Not only that but both of the centers in Boys Planet trained for under 2 years. I think the auditions for the show simply need to be more rigorous to rule out trainees who are doing it for experience.

[@RUKA_BABYMONST7R]

Also giselle

[@Nameless_mixes]

This was so amazing! Why couldn’t we have gotten this show? Someone fire the current CEO of MNet and put Cheryl in charge! I swear, survival shows would be so much better if fan input wasn’t reduced down to just voting and hate tweets.

[@everglowup]

Aww thanks Danny

[@bluetheon]

Glad I have this video to distract from the whole Bang Chan / Ive issue that's going on right now. I made the mistake of scrolling through Wonyoung's Instagram comments and I feel sick over what people are saying to her. I really hope she's okay. Thanks for this video Cheryl, it came at the right time ❤

[@emilia123zz]

As a newbie Stay I hate how people have just taken his words and ran with it. And what they are writing on Wonyoung’s comments 😔😔 they definitely do not represent Stays. How people can be filled with so much hate just confuses me. Edit: oh I just wanted to add that whilst I agree that Bang Chan can say whatever he wants on his own videos and I respect how often he speaks his mind…I do also believe that he could have foreseen the damage his words could have done. I don’t think the hate is his fault (just crazy hateful people jumping to conclusions) but he also should have taken into account his position.

[@Meeka_Chung]

This is one of the reasons why I left the fandom since 2020 I realized how some of them can be so toxic and end up fighting with every fandom especially my ults Ateez. I'm still a fan of stray kids but being a stay is draining... I hope Wonyoung is okay she's honestly a strong person

[@emilia123zz]

@@Meeka_Chung slowly happening to me as well. I really restrict my interactions within the fandom and focus on the music and projects

[@always_mob]

@@emilia123zz yeah same. There are few insta pages and yt channels that I follow because I enjoy their content but keeping up with stays has become draining 🤦🏾‍♀️. I don’t even care about the fandom. What I care about is the fandom making skz especially Chan look bad

[@always_mob]

This whole thing is so blown out of proportion that people are sending Chan death threats 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ Honestly Ive and Skz deserve none of this. K-pop fans are just so infuriating

[@Ohchaehyun2286]

Yes if you could turn back time and save kep1er and the fandom from the dumpster fire that it currently is rn

[@wonderlucky1912]

Kep1er members deserve so much better from their company Wakeone and also from parts of the fandom that are toxic to the members and fans. I have met some really nice Kep1er fans and casual fans who dislike the company, not the members. I am slightly glad how Wakeone is promoting their latest comeback Giddy and promoting their B-sides… I am surprised that they acknowledging all of their B-sides compare to their We Fresh comeback. I think their team does a good job for their Japanese releases.I hope Wakeone continues to find concepts that suit all of the members for their Korean title tracks and promote them. We can only hope.

[@thriftskull5549]

Now give Cheryl a budget a set and trainees and we got a hit Kpop idol survival show!!!!

[@knowlesknowles1356]

I'm honestly so excited about this ..

[@taelstrom6598]

i honestly believe Kepler wouldve been so much better if they had stuck to a 3 3 3 structure, wouldve stopped bias from both knetz and netz in general. Also would've been hard for Mnet to rig anything. just imagine a group having a strong K line, J line and C line!

[@rosemygirl]

KEP1ER line up with 3 3 3 structure would be chaehyun, bahiyyih, yujin, hikaru, mashiro, xiaoting, yaning, ruiqi, yurina and is really good tbh

[@hay_ziers3008]

@jane lmao what is bahiyyih really good at she is not even an impressive contestant. If anything dayeon or youngeun or Bora should replace her

[@Mandydmenace]

​@@hay_ziers3008lol, cry blood then. She debuted, is the most popular, and will still be popular post kep1er compared to your nugu pigs that will disappear form the kpop industry once they disband.

[@Mandydmenace]

@@taesbread2371 neither are the nugus bringing any popularity to the group, lol. You can't expect people that like her to fund the group when she gets paid dust from beginning to end, talking about talent as if the useless talents of those pigs will make them es a nugudom once kep1er disbands.

[@soyeonvsveggies]

⁠@@rosemygirl bahiyyih and yujin over yeseo and dayeon is insane 😭

[@ozoz3444]

If Girl's Planet had gone the same way as Boy's Planet, we would have a slightly different line up

[@fatimamalik5926]

I think at this point it has become a trope for survival shows to be more strict and professionl for boys and less for girls idk why this happens but you are debuting as an idol so everything should be equal

[@nct4867]

I agree! I really hope that girls planet 2 will be exactly like boys planet 😍

[@fatimamalik5926]

@@nct4867 i doubt it tho bcz the criteria and judgement level for girls is not as hard as compared to boys

[@danicah7848]

jiwoo as a stage presence mentor is such a good idea omg. I rarely see people talking about kard as a group but seeing jiwoo mentioned because of her stage presence is so good.

[@everglowup]

Ty for the sweet responses in the live chat 💙 apologies for it being so late. edit: y'all are so kind in the comments about my editing. tytysm!!

[@zenz_bro]

Dw Cheryl! I hope you're doing well, and thank you for the video! Can't wait for the next one!🍃🌸✨️

[@Yashitaluv]

Hi cheryl I have a question for the planet clash mission so is there 2 overall planents? like 1+1=2 k groups and same for the other group

[@minutemoka]

@@Yashitaluv technically yes, the japanese and the chinese planet join to form a global planet and the 16 korean contestants make 2 groups of 8 but they are one planet. so that makes 16 people in the korean planet and another 16 in the global planet. edit: this is my shorts channel account btw incase you are confused.

[@kairos-049]

The state of Kep1er just makes me sad. The girls are brilliant and passionate performers, and I just don't think their A&R is giving them anything to work with. Even Giddy was... just okay, which really sums up this entire GP999 and Kep1er saga. They don't suck, but they're just okay.

[@wonderlucky1912]

Hi I like Kep1er and I think it’s interesting how some Kep1er fans and casual fans prefer their B-sides and Japanese releases over their title tracks. Many of their B-sides like MSVK, Downtown, Lion Tamer, Dreams, Back to the city, LVLY, could have been title track material.. I think all of their 4 title tracks have received mixed opinions from the public. Wa da da charted well in Korea, Up! Seems to be a casual fan favorite. I have seen Giddy get some casual fans interested in Kep1er again. I am slightly glad that Wakeone is acknowledging Kep1er’s B-sides for their latest Giddy comeback.

[@ennauak]

@@wonderlucky1912 their company is quite desperate since every other girlgroup has a specific concept/color and I believe they debuted when Itzy and aespa were the face of 4th gen and they had crazy loud ass music (that worked for them) so the company thought of going with the trend at the time but they didn't expect in a few months so many ggs would be doing such different things and charting, they should have established a specific concept for Kep1er right at debut or have kept up with the trends. Their b-sides are good tho.

[@wonderlucky1912]

@@ennauak Hi! I see what you mean I think it depends on someone’s music taste but it seems like the general public consensus is that not all of the Kep1er members fit their concept/music genre especially with songs like Wa Da Da and We Fresh. (They are Great performance type of songs) I do agree that these songs don’t make all of the members stand out equally compare to songs like Up! And now Giddy. I think their original debut space concept could have work if Wakeone put more of an effort. Yes there B-sides are great and even their Japanese releases and I think those concepts/music genres make all of the members stand out.

[@tsukimilo]

Thank you for the EXID, CLC and KARD recognition for the mentors, they really deserve it ❤️

[@riricat279]

These are my thoughts about this program : (English is not my first language, there may be mistakes, I apologize for them from now on) 1)If the program was like this, we would have seen idols (after they debut) with much more experience. 2)The side missions is gonna unified the team spirit, and highlighted the trainees who have the spirit of the leader. 3)The division of tasks according to the trainees' choice of their talents makes placing the appropriate positions for them much more logical and easier. 4) The idea of The judges performing with them is genius because it gives them a lot of energy and confidence and makes people more excited to watch the show. 5)Performing the songs of previous generations through survival shows is genius and also important, it makes the program more K-Pop (I don't know how to explain this but I hope you got my point ) 6)The number of Korean, Chinese and Japanese trainees is very logical. 7)All the tasks are wonderful and prove the talent of the idol. Which line(rap line,vocal line or dance line) would it be if it was debuted in the group (and There are no useless members) 8)The voting system is accurate and fair , there are equal opportunities for all trainees, all they have to do is give everything they have, 9) the examples of the coaches are great, we really need real coaches, we don't need meaningless reactions, 10) the elimination system is very genius, final thoughts: this program is perfectly competitive, and At the same time, all that the trainee must do is show there talent with confidence. I have not seen a better program than this. I hope that it was real. in the end thank you sooo much about your hard work doing this great video

[@zavia973]

Someone get a producer NOW😭 From the challenges and the song picks, the mentors you chose, to the ratio and the voting/elimination setup. I'd watch 100%. Having idols as mentors not only benefits the trainees when they're being helped, but it would also bring in viewers that might not have watched otherwise. This is def a great concept.

[@Nameless_mixes]

In my opinion, here are the idols that I think would work well as mentors (I’m not dividing them based on specialties as I think their knowledge extends to more than one thing). Also, I’m basing this off of idols that I think have shown good communication skills in teaching others: BoA, CL, Taeyeon, Hyo, Jessica, HyunA, Jennie, Lisa, Rosé, Jihyo, Momo, Wendy, Solar, Moonbyul, Hwasa, Seungyeon, Chung Ha, LE, Solji, Yeji, Soyeon, Bibi, AleXa, Youha Also, I know that you weren’t a fan of how Sunmi and Tiffany handled being mentors. But I believe Sunmi expressed that MNET cut out a lot of footage where she was actually giving advice/criticism to the contestants. So, throw them in too! (Is that too many? Oh, who am I kidding! This is make believe! The more the merrier! 🤩🙌🎉)

[@sialoquent844]

In terms of the training time minimum, I think that could just be fixed by the audition process to get in the competition. People had to apply to get on girls planet. Not everyone who applied ended up making it onto the show. There may be people who come from untraditional backgrounds or are just naturally talented (ex: Mina from Twice trained less than a year I'm p sure).

[@mikimishisa]

This like what about the individuals that are self trained or aren't with a company.

[@luv_wonyoung6108]

as someone who ults kep1er i can admit that a lot is wrong with the company that manages them and i wish annoying “fans” didnt blame it on the girls itself. i can say that the lineup would be different (or maybe should) not because of the girls not being talented but because there were people who deserved to debut. currently kep1er is a mess and its not the girls fault and i feel so bad for them but their company dont know what to do. girls planet in my opinion wasn’t a mess except the global votings being the same as the korean ones, because global votes are many different countries and korea is one a 60:40 scale of votes would’ve made it more fair.

[@aplaraujo250]

Justice for Yurina and the Chinese girls!

[@sskdkpop468]

The editing is a bit too fine there, Cheryl. Also my heart is crying cuz I really miss Yaning RuiQi and Yurina on stage

[@LightCosmos]

My only criticism is that the debut group should be a bigger group (12) cause i just feel like for survival shows it makes sense, to also make more viewers happy that their favorite made it and thus have more fans waiting for their debut

[@goldyd144]

Agree! While I love ZB1's (the Boys Planet group) lineup, if they added 3 extra spots there would've been even bigger hype than there is now. Especially since the contestants in the 10th-12th spots in the finale were some of the stan attractors of the season, especially internationally.

[@uc6758]

@@goldyd144 gosh with addition of JAY, Phanbin, KEITA !!! Zb1 would def be wayyy more popular that they already have now. Keita and Jay hold literally the top spot for Intl fans.

[@flaggov6949]

If they were starting with 99, I might go for that but with only 40 contestants, more than a quarter would make the final group. That doesn't seem like much of a competition.

[@vampr3751]

@@goldyd144 I disagree. 9 is the perfect amount. Any more than that there is gonna be even more terrible mistreatment for at least 4-5 people lol. More lines for smaller groups 😅

[@goldyd144]

@@vampr3751 I can see that. W1 can barely do well with Kep1er's line distributions. It was worse with Izone, but the fandom was more united than Kep1ians, so it didn't affect them as much.

[@newsoupvialt]

Something I noticed when you said "First place should be FOTG because they had the most votes" is that you didn't comment on the voting system. Now that's fine, it's a 30 minute video already and you don't need to go into detail about every single aspect, lol. But technically P01 in GP999 didn't have "the most votes", she had "the most *points* based on the 50-50 weighting of all Korean votes to all international votes". It's pedantic but I just wonder if you'd keep that system or make any changes to it. :) I don't have a preference myself tbh

[@maddiej2165]

The one thing I give Kepler is that they don’t have any dozens like they all have a strength. I feel like every survival show has those dozen trainees who somehow get into the group, despite being less experienced than their others. Kepler is more balanced when it comes to skills and I give them that

[@whatlikeitshardd]

lmao what is bahiyyih’s strength

[@Akai704]

​@@whatlikeitshardd jjajaajja

[@bananajin4169]

@@whatlikeitshardd having a famous brother ofc

[@omurice6510]

Wdym? Bahiyyih is so mediocre, and arguably Mashiro and Yeseo…

[@bloom6250]

@@bananajin4169 it’s probably the main thing as to why she’s so popular

[@vesavius]

Your 'no training no invite' rule would have not only made P48 impossible to create but it would have destroyed so many satisfying journies. Seeing these untrained/ self trained Japanese girls work and grow, often with the aid of their new friends, was a key element of what made that season great. Hell, So-hye from 101 wouldn't have made it into the show according to your rule.

[@weeju14evah]

Ok, so I’ll try to recap what I remember. It would be great if anyone can let me know if I made a mistake -mentors and judges are completely separated -contestants have to be 16+ and have 2+ years of training experience -the ratio for each nationality in the final lineup is fixed (5 Koreans, 2 Japanese, 2 Chinese) -stage presence mentors pick the center, and fan votes determine the face of the group -here’s how the elimination works: 1.a. In the first mission, each contest chooses which strength she wants to showcase (vocal/rap/dance), and joins the respective group for that. 1.b. No one gets eliminated after the first mission. But judges pick their top9 2.a. In the second mission, the top9 contestants are split (8 and 9 stay together) and choose their groups (8 groups of 5) 2.b. The mission’s theme is a concept battle. For each concept, there are two teams that perform one song each. These two team compete against each other, and the winning team has advantages in the elimination process. 2.c. Two Korean girls, one Japanese girl, and one Chinese girl get eliminated by fans through votes. 2.d. Afterwards, judges get to eliminate the same number of contestants, but they can’t eliminate the “no touch” contestants (the top x number of contestants for each nationality according to fan votes) 2.e. 32 contestants remain. 3.a. The third mission is a “planet” clash. The Chinese contestants form one group, the Japanese contestants form one group, and the Korean contestants are split into two groups of 8 members. 3.b. Each group can choose the difficulty of their mission, which will determine how high the maximal reward (vote bonuses) can be. 3.c. The Korean groups share the rewards. The remaining two groups share theirs. 3.d. 7 Korean contestants are eliminated, 3 Japanese contestants are eliminated, and 3 Chinese contestants are eliminated. I didn’t get how they get eliminated, but I suppose it’s similar to how it worked for the second mission. 3.e. 19 contestants remain. 4.a. In this (4th) round, eliminated contestants can try to re-enter the competition through solo performances. 4.b. The fans are the ones who get to vote. 4.c. The top contestant for each country gets to re-enter the competition. 4.d. 22 contestants remain. 5.a. The contestants will be separated into 4 groups (2 groups of 5, and 2 groups of 6), and have to perform two songs: one bside, and one 2nd gen song. 5.b. Judges pick the bside, and fans pick the 2nd gen songs 5.c. Mentors join the 2nd gen song performances 5.d. The best bside performing team gets exempted from elimination. The same goes for the best 2nd gen song performing team. Fan votes will exempt a few contestants from elimination as well (those with the most votes) 5.e. Judges eliminate 3 Korean contestants, 2 Japanese contestants and 2 Chinese contestants that aren’t exempted. 5.f. 15 contestants remain. 6.a. The last (6th) mission is traditional. The contestants perform new original songs. 6.b. Fan votes (nothing else) determine the final lineup. Fans pick their top2 Korean contestants, top1 Chinese contestant, and top1 Japanese contestant each, during the voting process. 6.c. 9 members remain, and show their gratitude to whoever read this recap until the end.

[@Princess_Liliana_Cynthia]

Tq for write it down ..but i dont get how they manage the final line up ...we vote for the top 4 that guarantee for the final line up then how we pick for others 5 ??

[@Princess_Liliana_Cynthia]

Ahh nevermind i just watch it back it through the fan elimination(vote) most top 5 from 11 left contestants

[@weeju14evah]

@@Princess_Liliana_Cynthia each individual fan basically votes for their own personal top4, but all 15 contestants receive votes. And it’s basically the 9 contestants with the most votes that are included in the final lineup

[@dollyuii]

PETITION FOR EVERGLOW-UP TO MAKE HER OWN REAL SURVIVAL SHOW:

[@ShootingStarStudio]

I’d binge the shit outta this, when’s it gonna be on Netflix 😂😂😂

[@kyumi__]

The editing is amazing and your ideas are genius ! Having stage presence mentors is really important and I love your lineup. Also, since your talked about it, Youth With You 2 was an amazing survival show and I recommend everyone to watch it : no (or not much iirc) drama and evil editing, super open-minded, supportive mentors, top tier talent, performances, editing and camera work and the girls were like a family ! We saw their interactions a lot and many had strong personalities that shined. They were also older generally (the maknae of the final group was above 18) so that can be why they felt more mature and pleasant to watch. I'd love to hear your opinion on it someday but I understand that it's long to watch plus the group already disbanded :/ but yeah those final performances with the mentors were soo good.