"I use Arch btw" has lost it's meaning.

[@BlueIsLeet]

there should never be any "air of superiority" for any OS you use. Use the best one for you, it's that simple

[@LowTechLinux]

💯% agree

[@BPL-Whipster]

I've never understood the attitude. It's always been there, it affects all oses, and it's always stupid.

[@mariogutierrez4989]

Happily switching between WSL2 + Windows (gaming), EndeavourOS + Hyprland (daily use, coding) and Mac (testing mac apps, coding).

[@blarghblargh]

lol, typical of non-gentoo users to think you're as good as us

[@blarghblargh]

...says the non-gentoo user

[@plutorocks1]

6:45 "I use Ubuntu BTW its pretty much the same effect now" you've destroyed all Arch fans boys lmfaoooooooo

[@LowTechLinux]

I know right LOL.

[@Mauzy0x00]

I install arch without the arch install script, btw

[@LowTechLinux]

Kudos but why? There's a tool for that, kinda like using a hammer to drive a screw in.

[@Mauzy0x00]

@@LowTechLinux I don’t look at it like that at all. I’m using a hammer to hammer a nail in; you’re using a nail gun. I gain a greater understanding on exactly what I’m doing and installing to my system. I didn’t choose Arch because it’s easy. I wanted to learn.

[@lolkthnxbai]

For me it always comes down to partitions being why I manual on void or arch or Gentoo. The moment you don't want just the standard efi and one drive ext4 it gets messy. Funny enough the only distro I found with a good setup for drives was opensuse, able to get btrfs and LUKS setup with two drives fast, no bull.

[@junkie2100]

my buddy who used to use arch, literally switched to gentoo a couple months ago lol

[@Ryet9]

because now it has a BINARY repo? ... so many newbs coming over.....

[@junkie2100]

@@Ryet9 technically no he wanted a change and he also wanted to build a specialized system that didnt work well with arch, so he had a valid reason i just thought it was a funny coincidence. it has been a massive pain in the ass though i have been helping him work out the kinks, keep running into outdated documentation and compiler issues

[@Fratm]

It's just a meme, has nothing to do with how hard it is to install it. The meme is the arrogant response some redditor had once and that was what he said in order to give him self some linux cred. It will never go away, because or what it implies, and meme's don't die.

[@VoxelPrismatic]

It's been a meme for a long time already. If anyone says "i use arch btw," unironically, they need help.

[@JokerRWild]

It's not about the installation but really about how bare it comes and how you have full control without anything push down your throat....

[@folksurvival]

In that case use Void.

[@deathzombee]

'Best effort partion layout' good luck with a root partion for ants. Gunna have to juggle that when it fills within a week.

[@remrevo3944]

I mean even without archinstall, installing arch is really not *that* hard. The documentation is out there and most of the steps are more or less trivial, if you know a bit about the command line. The first time I installed arch I did without archinstall and I am honestly glad I did it like that, because it teaches a few things that are extremely helpful to fix problems. Like working in the command line when it is all you have, chrooting into a system when something is broken, using fstab correctly, etc.

[@LowTechLinux]

This is the correct reasoning behind "doing it the hard way". It's a fabulous learning tool in that

[@remrevo3944]

​@@LowTechLinuxI recently had the *luck* to have my computer crash while updating the initramfs, preventing it from booting (like at all). It took a while to fix, but honestly it was kind of fun and gave me the opportunity to learn more about grub and mkinitcpio. So yes that knowledge definitely helped a lot. And it really helps if you like such problems anyway. XD

[@crisper1614]

Idk why but I fell in love with Ubuntu a long time ago. Controversies aside. I like the animal names. 😅

[@LowTechLinux]

I ran kubuntu for 14 years. I don't think Ubuntu fully deserves all the hate it gets, at least they're trying to do things.

[@prima_ballerina]

I started trying out Linux since the early 2000s. I was only distro hopping and nothing ever worked until I learned about Ubuntu (I guess around ~2007). Ubuntu was then the first Linux that replaced Windows as my main OS. But around 2011 I was really fed up with the 6 months update cycle, having your complete system and every program updated at once and always being dependant on the choices Ubuntu made. So I looked into rolling distros. Tried Gentoo first, but then stuck with Arch, because binary packages were just easier to handle on my then single core CPU than compiling everything. Still I like Ubuntu for it's positive impact in pushing Linux and I continue to use it for home / internet servers.

[@blendpinexus1416]

for me it's a full suite of os. laptop runs windows, steamdeck runs it's out of the box steamos, and the "desktop" is actually to be a dual socket server system with truenas running on it and the workstation is just a vm with one of the socket's and it's resources dedicated to that vm.

[@cexeodus]

me in a nutshell pretty much.

[@blendpinexus1416]

@@cexeodus oh, and i forgot to mention the workstation is running ubuntu. yeah no two same os

[@MnemonicCarrier]

I love me some Arch (regardless of whether or not it comes with an installer). It's just so.... nice! And don't get me started on the AUR!!! 😉

[@LowTechLinux]

The aur is awesome, pacman is the opposite of that

[@horsethi3f]

I use a docker to boot up into arch. Didnt know this was a thing

[@joeldoxtator9804]

Arch is now the primary replacement for windows. It's so user friendly, it is comparable to windows 95 back in the day from an ease of use standpoint. With plasma 6 there is officially no reason to run windows anymore. As Microsoft cracks down on freedom of speech and use in their operating system, more and more will switch over.

[@pixelcatcher123]

gentoo is goat

[@Tobsson]

I use Fedora. I find the gui for partitions to be harder to understand and do what you want than archinstall. So... I use Fedora btw

[@LowTechLinux]

😂🤣

[@LowTechLinux]

I seriously dislike the fedora installer

[@Tobsson]

​@@LowTechLinux You and me both. I love Fedora, the speed, the updates, how it just works day after day after day. But damn, that initial installation is in need of some love.

[@oscs4556]

On the arch iso, you need to edit the pacman.conf to enable the parallel downloads first - it’s off by default. Also you skip the sound server selection on the video and you could skip the root password section like in Debian installs.

[@LowTechLinux]

Lol I noticed the sound server after I had uploaded it. That's was a lazy goof on my part. The root password I wasn't sure about. Thanks for the info 👍

[@NameUserOf]

Don't worry there is still Gentoo. I remember back in my young days i've printed install instruction, it looked like a book. It was a true accomplishment for me to install it. But after i wanted to upgrade hardware i moved to packaged distros and never looked back.

[@x3roxide]

trying to install arch (manually) and gentoo are great learning experiences. for instance, learning how to chroot into a broken system and perhaps recovering instead of going nuclear is actually a pretty useful skill in the toolbox.

[@det0xx842]

I use Suse Tumbleweed btw :) And it's better than arch !!! for me.

[@LowTechLinux]

Same 👍

[@OzmandisMandis]

I see cat, I like. The video is great too.

[@LowTechLinux]

Thank you. 😸

[@user-lw4nt5uc3p]

I don't mind the Air of Superiority for having installed Arch being gone. The first time I installed Arch it took me three weeks, so yes, it was hard. The last time I installed Arch I used the Arch Install script. I was happy with that. And if this wasn't a video about installing Arch, I wouldn't have mentioned it.

[@redo1122]

arcolinux is even easier and leaves you with regular old arch

[@cexeodus]

I never tried Arch before the install was simplified, still feel braindead when I tried it lol And thats not to say itnis complex even, just so different from what I am used to from 20years playing with Linux distros.

[@prima_ballerina]

Hm. I don't quite get your point. Install scripts have been around for years. Now they included one of those on the iso. So what? *shrug* I never heard anyone saying they use Arch because it is "hard to install". Anyone I know who does use Arch, does it to have a (almost) completely custom system. I tried Gentoo first, but back then I still had a single core CPU. After my PC compiled for 24 hours I realized I had made some config errors and would have to compile again. Then my choice fell on Arch :-D It still puzzles me why people want to use Arch when they use an install script anyway. They're missing out on the main "selling point" of that distro :-) Btw.: I always thought "I use Arch btw." is just a meme because people using Arch were going on peoples nerves being so vocal about it and not because Arch users themselves feel or are considered "superior". But I must admit I'm not really huge into all this meme / "modern" internet stuff anyway - I hang around a lot in retro computer forums :-)

[@smedley76]

it is losing its meaning over time sure, but its not all lost. ive tried the archinstall multiple times, and it always fails for me. the only hint i get is about pacman-keys --init however after following all of that it still fails for me. so whenever i do installs its nearly always manual install, except recently i have done EndeavorOS, that was a smooth experience and really enjoying KDE Plasma

[@smedley76]

I ran fedora for many years, but i wanted a more tailored distribution and thats about the time i found arch, at first, i didnt know anything at all, so i hated the install experience, but once i learned a routine, i just kind of stuck with it.

[@CRYPTiCEXiLE]

why nobody say i use Gentoo btw... cause they are not morons lol

[@LowTechLinux]

Lol 😂😂

[@snowwsquire]

nixos >

[@thinboxdictator6720]

it's GUI and TUI

[@bes12000]

I tried multiple different Linux versions and they were all crap and broke all the time and Arch is the best one I have tried, it doesn't break and im using the Garuda gaming version of Arch though, it's installer was better, had an actual GUI...lol... not worried about being superior, lol, I care about it running 80% faster than windows 11 and everything works and the UI seems pretty similar to windows.

[@OdinRu1es]

I try to use arch because I like arch logo btw

[@LowTechLinux]

For the record I really like their logo.

[@folksurvival]

Artix logo is better in my opinion.

[@adjbutler]

I use NixOS btw

[@LowTechLinux]

Proper statement 😁

[@callisoncaffrey]

Arch was never hard to install. It had an installer before, then that went away, now it has one again. Who cares? It's not hard with or without one. Installing Gentoo also isn't hard. They even have a musl eselect profile now. Only configuring the kernel takes a bit, since the documentation is pretty shitty. Otherwise it's so easy, like you wouldn't believe. And LFS is just a time consuming manual task. You follow the book. Most of it is looking at the compiler. And again you have to configure the kernel. None of this is particularly hard since the internet exists. There are guides for everything. Edited to not be part of the heart sticker inflation.

[@LowTechLinux]

I think it more comes down to time consumption. Compiling and building stuff isn't hard, but can be very time consuming and also depends on the machine it's being done on

[@malusmundus-9605]

Arch loses meaning because it's easy to install???? Dude... it's tiny. That's the point. You can build a barebones server on a very cheap computer for nothing. You guys are using it wrong lol.

[@LowTechLinux]

"you guys are using it wrong" I wish I had included that line now lol

[@eadwacer524]

Everyone is an LFSer until for their job they need to modify the kernel and end up first trying every Fedora patch for the needed functionality because kernel debugging for custom PCI-E hardware with a quickly approaching deadline is a terrible feeling.

[@LowTechLinux]

You got that right 👍

[@codingneko]

I use uwuntu btw I wish the installer prompted which package manager you wanna use, pacman SUUUUUUUUUUCKS balls. Honestly I'm at the point where I wanna do l00nix from scratch, but I don't have the time nor the security in my own knowledge to actually do it... But I am PREEEETTTY biased as to what I want on my l00nix system... my uwuntu is barely even uwuntu anymore...

[@LowTechLinux]

😂🤣😅🤣😂 Actually pacman is the primary reason I didn't really like Arch. The syntax is just stupid. Lol

[@codingneko]

@@LowTechLinux yup, wtf is -Syu... can you like just... say install, or even add like a normal fucking person?

[@LowTechLinux]

LOLOL, yes!! I once said I did -Syu and got this error. Was told I should have done -Syyu instead.... I was literally "wtf??"