I Used Oil For 20K Miles W/Out Changing It So You Don’t Have To - Lab Analysis

In this episode of doing silly things just to see what happens, we put 20,000 miles on a car without changing the oil or filter. It took one year and two months to accrue 20,755 miles. At the end of it, the oil was sent to a lab for analysis.

[@TortureTestMagazine]

If you laughed at "SPECTRA" being modified into "SPEC R" we definitely understand each other.

[@DarkFox6211818]

If it's consuming oil at the rate of just over a quart per 1000mi, so long as you continue to check and replenish it regularly the weak point will be the filter. The engine failures I see as a technician due to 'extended oil change intervals' are people who put an extended mileage oil in and never check the level, or replenish the level as the vehicle consumes it - in fact it's been my experience that most assume that oil is a separate or sealed system, and the idea that vehicles can normally consume oil at rates as high as 1qt per 1000mi is completely foreign to them.

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Nice lol. That must be fun getting to see people's failures!

[@GaryLordsWayMinistry]

Look at oil fields and pumping stations that run a cat or similar diesel engine, that never shuts down. They only change the oil filters on it. Keep the oil clean and add new oil if it gets low and that motor will run forever till it won't but that take years or decades. Look at real life works in application and see why oil doesn't lose its viscosity, it only get dirty or might need more cleaning agent added to it once in a while. Main thing is to keep the filtering system clean. See Project Farm, on his study of oils and testing them. kzbin.info/door/2rzsm1Qi6N1X-wuOg_p0Ng. Do a compression test on the cylinders to see if there is any additional wear going on or taking place on the next test cycle.

[@trdscfjc]

30,000 mile update?

[@davidcampbell1899]

So, you paid $300.00 for a car and will have put 50,000 miles on it! That in it self is amazing!

[@joeldude76]

My father buys long drain oil and goes 20k on each oil change. His engine has 202k on the engine. Seems like it’s running good

[@joeldude76]

@@ricktharp1 his engine is still going so apparently not

[@andreasbayer]

Standard practice in Germany/Europe since 20 years, if you drive mostly highway. Shortest oil drain intervals of my car are 15.000 km and longest is 30.000 km and 2 years depending on usage. It works just fine, but Americans like to change unnecessarily often... I think VW introduced long life oils back in year 2000 or so and it works...

[@cartere9981]

@@andreasbayerI don’t know of any manufacturer that still goes by that bullshit, they all say 1 year is the max

[@andreasbayer]

@@cartere9981 VW is 15k km/1 years to 30k km/2 years depending on usage/computer. For me it is mostly 1,75 years or 26k km.

[@DavidTMSN]

@@andreasbayer It may be standard practice in parts of Europe due to the use of higher quality ACEA oils that have much better additive packages designed to withstand that mileage. The engine, the climate, the driving style, and oil/additive package determine how far you should be going on a single oci.

[@akashmohan999]

I always wondered if my oil burning car that burns 1 quart every 1000 miles just changes the oil as i drive if I'm adding a quart of fresh oil every month

[@SmudgyContent]

I went over 17months and 21k miles with Walmart's name brand oil and alls well

[@fuerte-af]

Yeap, synthetic oil should last that long with no major problems and also, Walmart oil is a good brand.

[@marshmower]

I got in trouble going by miles. I consider the condition of the oil itself . Wioe the dipstick on a napkin. Does it smell like gas and is it more brown than orange or amber. Time for a change. Maybe 3000-4000 just to not get screwed.

[@metaldog7128]

😂😂 this is how my sister buys her next car! She drives them till the oil runs out, and then buys a new one 🤣

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Holy cow hahaha

[@gophop]

at least it's not every gas tank

[@drakevelazquez8728]

Metaldogrides wish I could do this. I’d run my Subaru bone dry and buy every year

[@sciencemilitia1853]

This oil is probably not designed for low quality engines near the end of their lifespan. Still worked though!

[@jairozetino5412]

It's just dumb and waste of money to change oil every 5k miles, it is way too soon I do mine every 10k miles have never had a problem.

[@christopherfaeth8047]

Ive changed mine at every 4k and I'm at 627,373 miles all original

[@DALESHITSTORM]

It depends on the engine and how much you care about it

[@MercedesMan]

Miles ?? I’m at 50k total my 140k car burned lots from that

[@TheMTrider16]

Did you consider taking oil samples at 5000 mi intervals? Maybe a suction tube in the dipstick tube?

[@TortureTestMagazine]

That could be fun. Thanks for the idea!

[@noyopacific]

I recall that some business with a large fleet of vehicles, I think it was a telephone or electric utility company did a similar test 40 +/- years ago. I don't recall the results except that there wasn't anything very significant that happened when they stopped doing routine, scheduled oil changes.

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Exxon Mobil continues to do tests like that with a cab fleet in Las Vegas. They have new cars every now and then but I think it's just when they upgrade... But yeah those things get a lot of usage and I don't see them smoking lol.

[@ChaoticDetour]

I have had old cars/trucks that I have gone well over 20,000 miles on without an oil change. But like yours they used enough oil to equal an oil change. I have no idea how much it shortened the motors life, but they didn't seem worse for wear.

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Nice. Like a jet engine, where the oil change is the top up oil haha

[@STREETFIGHTER50]

How many times or how much did you top it off during the 14 months? Also, what filter did you use?

[@glendecuir6317]

Enjoy your videos, what oil lab are you using and what is the cost. Would like to do an oil analysis to my truck out of curiosity thanks

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Thanks. It was blackstone oil labs. I believe it was $28

[@thicok4555]

Love when your car burns so much oil you never have to change it just throw some in every other month👍🏼

[@marlinrobertson5464]

Awesome video!

[@Rubberbandstrecher]

Very cool experiment.

[@Blackwood_747]

Great video !

[@youtoobe169]

Hey did you ever do the 30K video?

[@DoubleArrow]

Thanks for doing the tests everyone is curious about, but doesn't actually want to do on their own vehicles haha!

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Lol you're welcome! Thanks for watching

[@kiapyro]

It would cost more, but it would be cool to see an analysis every 5000 miles so you can see if it progressively gets worse or just falls off all of a sudden.

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Yes!

[@sdcanyoncarver2203]

Awsome video.

[@craigbadder6099]

I want to know the truth .About Castrol extend edge titianium oil go 20000 miles.castrol say guaranteed????.will hurt engine???

[@-DC-]

Here in Europe 1 year 20k is nothing that unusual, not sure I'd go that far but generally car's are scrapped with a working engine.

[@RandomUsername81]

20k miles not 20k KMs

[@JensEskildsen]

Jup, 30.000km on an oilchange. Theres 5 year unlimited mile warranty on even kinda cheap cars like Hyundai with 30.000km oil change interval on like an I40

[@RandomUsername81]

@@JensEskildsen Better to change your oil too much than not enough... I'm still pretty skeptical about waiting any longer than 7,500 miles let alone 10k/15k and definitely not 20k.

[@JensEskildsen]

@@RandomUsername81 They wouldnt give a 5 year unlimited milage warranty if the car couldnt handle it. I've never seen a car sold here with under 10.000 mile intervals. The mentality here is just different.

[@markwarnberg9504]

@@JensEskildsen I believe that is for the Hybred models. 15.000km is the max oil change..........7,500km for hard driving.

[@STREETFIGHTER50]

Thanks for the vid! I do 5k mi. or 1 year, whichever comes first on all our cars. So far all is good! Usually whatever full synthetic I see with the best deal from Walmart

[@lucascarniel7439]

Replaced 1 or 2 years ago?

[@jer1776]

So basically, if your car burns oil, long interval oil changes are good. Sweet

[@Iasco92]

Just got your sticker in the mail you sent me, thanks man!

[@TortureTestMagazine]

You're welcome! I'm glad it made it

[@logansmokes.2762]

i do my dads oil changes on his 05 4runner for atleast the past 50k miles i do it at about 5k intervals at that point it is about a quart low it has a leaking valve cover on one side but it runs fine just check the oil often throught out the oil change life and top off as need be maybe half a quart maybe a lil over a quart but in 5k miles i dont think thats to bad.

[@kevinoverholtzer3126]

would love to see this same test on a newer car that does not consume oil as much. Nice video thanks for your honest review

[@natep9997]

I forgot to change my oil when I bought a car 2 years ago. I bought a 2013 hyundai sonata. It had a brand new motor in it from warranty recall on it. I ended up changing it after 26k miles. I messed up the engine. It runs good still but if I try hard acceleration on a highway it pings and smokes. But if I drive regular and not get on the gas hard it drives like a dream. When hyundai replaced the motor right before I bought it they put in 5w 20 synthetic mobile 1. I replaced it with the same stuff. We're thinking it messed up the valve guide seals so I'm going to replace the guide seals and see if that's what happened.

[@user-fv4mv9ne3u]

nice vid!!

[@premixpeter1972]

TTM you lied to me I ran my craftsman push mower for 20k miles on quaker state full synthetic and now it's a leaf blower how do I get a refund?

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Lol put marvel mystery oil and seafoam in it at the same time, and it will turn back into a mower. Careful though the power hit can come out a touch strong if you use too much. If you're not careful it can turn into a riding mower.

[@premixpeter1972]

@@TortureTestMagazine Ok sounds good, straight mystery oil it is, I've been needing a riding mower anyway.

[@ramirocosta1]

great vid sir. got a sub.

[@jaredjared8347]

Wait so it consumes a ton of oil and your surprised the oil looks good? You’re doing an oil change constantly on that gilopy!

[@sciencemilitia1853]

The oil change interval depends on more than just the oil itself. Engine type, driving conditions, driving habits, engine condition, etc. This oil is probably not for low quality engines tha are already near the end of their lifespan.

[@chicken29843]

Yeah I've seen the type of filter that you use as a significant impact on how long you can use the oil

[@SuperMrgentleman]

I mean sure, but just the same, where's all the samples of full synthetic oil that's completely destroyed or dangerously degraded after a year and 7500 miles or 10k miles?

[@niacal4nia]

Some semi trucks do 100k mile oil change. Highway miles are 10% of city miles. BTW engine oil change goes by engine operating hour has nothing to do with miles or years.

[@gangbang5able]

What filter did you use

[@TortureTestMagazine]

M1-108A

[@gangbang5able]

@@TortureTestMagazine pretty good results and you didnt have to use expensive amsoil or annual protection from M1

[@bobfeller604]

One liter every 3,500 miles is actually not all that bad. Thing is, your average person might not know to add oil when appropriate.

[@benstv42069]

So you used Quaker state past 20k miles?

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Indeed. And 30,000 miles next

[@benstv42069]

Torture Test Magazine that’s impressive, they don’t advertise that their oil can go past 20k miles.

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Yup, so this experiment is definitely not the best case scenario. Not the worst case either. Just a decent middle ground lol

[@elonsus9747]

That’s pretty impressive for an oil that isn’t rated for 20k. I’ll probably pick up Quaker State for my next change. I usually go with Mobil 1 and Valvoline.

[@JensEskildsen]

20.000 mile oil change intervals inst uncommon at all overhere in Europe.

[@KevAlberta]

I do mine every 10k kilometers

[@markwarnberg9504]

I´v noticed Europeans are not to good at regular service once the warrenty runs out! that my be due to the fact that there are no Jiffy Lube Typ Stations here and that any basic service has to go through some high price dealership so people put off dueing the minimum oil service.

[@chodkowski01]

Instead of 30,000 just go to unlimited mileage until the engine blows up and then tell us how many miles you can go until the engine will fail.

[@tydontdy3459]

I can't confirm the oil quality, but I do know that the filters are not of the best quality. The filter oil inlet holes are less in number and smaller than competitors, the anti-drain valve design is cheap and even poor, and the number of filter pleats is mediocre if that. There are youtube videos where you can see in the inside for yourself.

[@johnwadsworth4916]

Guaranteed, you have sludge, build up in that motor

[@colinkutz5930]

if you added new oil throughout the test you can't really claim the oil did 20k miles. For all you know if you had really done 20k miles without adding fresh oil it might all be like that snot sludge and not "separated". It's probably not really a valid test to use a vehicle that is burning oil either, if you want to test the claim of going a year without an oil change as the oil might be subject to abnormal heating or something.

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Pretty sure I already mentioned that but thanks for clarifying!

[@jerryx2000]

So where is the 30k oil change video?

[@TortureTestMagazine]

I had to get rid of the car, I didn't have a place to park it anymore

[@jerryx2000]

@@TortureTestMagazine do you know if it is still running?

[@TortureTestMagazine]

I don't have that info. I know it worked fine for the subsequent owner until it got hit badly while parked and then impounded for not being properly insured. After that, who knows. Probably got sold at auction and parted out or just cubed

[@timothygibney159]

I have a turbo and high compression Mazda skyactiv. Won't be doing that in my car 😅

[@nathanyo9341]

If I would even consider this it would be with 100 percent synthetic oil not “full synthetic”

[@Topsiekku]

If you dont change oil, change anyway filter

[@benstv42069]

When are you going to torture test a Yamaha?

[@TortureTestMagazine]

I can't say when with any certainty, but it'll happen!

[@trdscfjc]

30,000 mile update?

[@TortureTestMagazine]

I had to sell the car before it got to 30k. It was going fine but I moved and didn't have a place to park it anymore

[@johnfranklin5277]

@@TortureTestMagazine how much did you sell it for??? More than 300 bucks? Lol.

[@ericbackstrom6223]

5 quarts is 4.73 liters

[@tundras4ever552]

Great video: I will say this . Short trips is what really degraded oils. My sister bought a brand new 2019 Nissan murano and didn’t change the oil for 27k miles all short trips and in cold weather . Check engine light came on and was a code for low oil pressure. I checked the dip stick and caked on the dipstick was sludge . Oil cap was also covered in sludge. You can get away with long intervals for strictly highway driving although I also don’t recommend that.

[@timothygibney159]

Did it have a turbo and did she use synthetic or standard?

[@tundras4ever552]

@@timothygibney159 she had a non turbo , full synthetic from factory . But she ran the original fluid for 27k. Big no no and also I’m the winter

[@timothygibney159]

@@tundras4ever552 I bet what killed her vehicle is it was not broken in and having the metal bits in the oil from the break in got it when it sludged up. I always change my oil at around 1500 miles after break in for this reason

[@tundras4ever552]

@@timothygibney159 no definitely not that lol it was from all the sludge that was in there and starved the engine of oil. Filter will catch almost all metal from a break in and there’s rarely much to begin with . Her dipstick came out with clumps of sludge on it

[@timothygibney159]

@@tundras4ever552 I own a high compression Mazda skyactiv with a turbo now. No way in hell would I skip and oil change in that lol.

[@JDye-youtube]

I thought the analysis provided by the oil lab was very informative. The fact that you effectively changed the oil during the test is a little bit of a Wahaaa….wahaaa….wahaaa moment, but I think the metal content analysis is still very interesting as oil was only added and not actually changed, which would have reduced the metal count. But oil was only added and if damage was being done to the engine, the metal count should have been much higher. It’s been 4 years so I have to assume the car give up the ghost before that 30K test was complete….or maybe you just got sick of driving a turd. Lol.

[@arthursmith643]

I change every 4000 miles.

[@Juice-jx1pr]

2020 things are a lot different now

[@largecarken8504]

Maybe the oil filter should be changed every 10,000 miles.

[@offroad8055]

Rotella or it didn't happen!😂

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Hahah! I heard they use it in the space shuttle man, it's the good stuff 😎

[@CaptainDerp]

You should try this on a car that doesn't consume oil.

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Like a Tesla? 😂

[@tjlovesrachel]

Torture Test Magazine I’d do a leaf... I heard they are better on oil then Tesla’s

[@011001er]

It won't be a mechanical failure that kills the kia it'll be electrical, it'll throw a sensor that you either won't be able to get or the ecu won't recognise. Slab for the boys if I'm wrong.

[@TortureTestMagazine]

That's exactly right lol. The engine is solid on this car. The wiring and electronics are crap. All the conduit and insulation is just disintegrating. I'm saving up for a different car at this point.

[@markstrickland8736]

How to slowly destroy an engine just to see it die.

[@SmudgyContent]

2yrs for 30k miles 🤣😂 i fkin wish 🤣😂 30k+ is one yr for mine

[@MrCutLawnCare]

What type of oil/filter do you run and what’s your oci?

[@gonefishing805]

Over 50000 on my last oil change with my 96 Toyota 4Runner 278,000 miles

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Holy smokes!

[@gonefishing805]

@@TortureTestMagazine and just to make it clear it's the cheap oil from AutoZone STP oil filter.... I also beat the piss out of it every night 365 days a year driving a paper route

[@TortureTestMagazine]

Do you change the oil filter or will one do the job? Thanks

[@gonefishing805]

@@TortureTestMagazine only change filter when I change the oil...

[@rikertvonfulton16]

What oil are you using?

[@elquintoviernesazul]

Me to😂😂😂😂

[@garythompson2517]

🤣

[@aaasynthetics741]

Your TBN# sucked. You are using a crap oil. It has a very poor cold pour point. You should have actually used Mobil1, Pennsoil or Amsoil. The oil is not doing it's job if you are using that much oil. It's NOACK Volitility test must really suck. A "Full Synthetic" only has to contain 25% synthetic. Amsoil is a 100% Synthetic. Also, remember when you perform a test like this you also need to use a filter that's rated the same or you will have to change the filter at appropriate intervals.

[@elonsus9747]

It’s Quaker State what do you expect…

[@user-lv2ky4ts2l]

You broke cheapskate, i was hoping to find out if the mobil-1 annual protection that i put in my car would actually work. And you cheaped out over a pidly 35 dollars? Quaker state is a cheapo brand, mobil-1 might not have become mucus.

[@konstantinostselios1129]

Nothing is going to happen if you change your oil filter you add oil due to consumption so you be ok