I've bought a Triumph 400X Scrambler - A quick intro video

I ordered a Triumph 400X back in Autumn. I picked her up in the week and this was just a quick intro video going through a few of the details. Trail video to follow.

[@mikerider58]

Sounds wonderful. Looks Beautiful. Triumph have cracked it here with this bike. 👌

[@Vegplot]

I test rode a the Speed 400 yesterday and was really impressed how well the bike was put together, engine, comfort, handling all excellent. The engine is a peach rolling on from 20mph in 4th show no hesitation or jerkiness and was smooth and eager.

[@Interdiction]

Fck me you are easily impressed . This is weak

[@aaronharris5275]

Colour, price and low weight do it for me for this Triumph. I've never ridden a Triumph so like you this bike is luring me in to the brand.

[@caldaemon]

Good luck with the new bike! Can't wait to hear your observations after some time. Safe rides!

[@teneretraveller8980]

Anything that brings new, and more importantly young people onto 2 wheels can only be a good thing. Or keeps older people who want to go lighter still riding. Looks great. If Rally Raid get hold of it i can see it being very desirable. Tubeless spokes? Fabulous. Can't believe the price either. Great value. Ride safe 👍

[@nathanthepostman]

Totally. I think this brings a nice big bike feel without feeling like a big bike. For anyone stepping off a Bonnie or tiger it doesn't actually like a step down if that makes sense, just lighter

[@ishgibor]

Great intro. Looking forward to seeing you put it through the paces.

[@tastroman]

Thanks for putting the work in. Because you've ridden pretty much everything your perspective carries weight. Have one on order myself. Mostly a passion purchase on my end as she's just a looker. I'll probably be 90% street.

[@WiltshireMan]

Well-done Nathan, That does look like a lovely bike for the money, looking forward to the trail test videos.

[@user-rz5pm4tx5u]

Cheers Nathan, looking forward to seeing your next review on this bike, looks like a cracking machine and at a good price

[@ElwoodPDowd-ed7pc]

Looking forward to the ride video, thanks for sharing!

[@TR5T]

superb, I love Triumph and this is another gem.

[@barryhughes1612]

I rode one yesterday, very impressive in fact it took me by surprise, I have a Himalayan and have considered getting the new 450 but now I really need to think this through having ridden the 400 X...

[@bikerbuddy3166]

I always embraced this project when it was released to us early 2018 and glad the design and R&D was done in uk 🇬🇧 as ever love your honesty making your reviews some of the best out there 😎👌

[@EpicAdamMotovlogs]

Nice one. I was tempted to get one but I'm opting for the street twin now. I look forward seeing it in person

[@planefrog]

I look forward to seeing your thoughts when you take it for a ride. It was certainly very popular at the bike show.

[@manuelbritorides]

Just saw the bike in a local dealer. It's huge for its CC. A winner no doubt👌

[@djwarren5081]

It sounds like a bike. Short and sweet description.

[@matthewmoreman4145]

Looking forward to the trail video👍

[@billesbacon]

Thank you for this great review. I am anxious for mine to arrive in Alabama. I will be delivering bacon samples to my customers.

[@lestersmyth692]

Thanks Nathan I suspect Triumph have a winner here. Agree that the front mudguard looks a bit close if you’re an off road enthusiast otherwise it looks superb. 👍

[@paulstokes393]

Looks and sounds great 👌😎

[@simonaustin1788]

Good review- thanks

[@andyc750]

good looking bikes, saw both models on test here in Mid Wales a few months back, they certainly look the part and if they don't sneak the price up then they are on to a winner very likely

[@drd3816]

Keep it coming i get mine soon like to hear how the suspension treated you off road.

[@soggybawsmoto]

Really enjoying the recent workshop/clipboard presentations, comes across well. If using a videographer is costing you money, get a insta 360 x 3 (whatever the current version is) and a small tripod. I use this in my films for "pass bys", probably the easiest thing to edit in the 360 editing suite. It would get the riding shots you showed us here no problem. Can also be used for the occasional bike mounted piece. Pain in the ass as a main camera, but for the odd wow shot great piece of kit.

[@maxflight777]

For goodness sake , take care with them… the lens scratches very easily ! (Good cameras I agree with your suggestion)

[@olliereed4206]

I am well into small capacity bikes now. Needs a decent touring screen and some luggage mounts and its just the job.

[@chrislye8912]

It’s lovely mate…it does want spoked wheels though..😊

[@hctim96]

Very interested in your review of how it works for you and others on the trail and the road. tnx

[@GaryJohnWalker1]

Actually seems like a fine 'just a bike'. Looks good, has a name, good price, and just enough go for the roads. And likely more comfy at distance than the 400 speed.

[@nathanthepostman]

I think that's a great way of describing; it's just a bike. Not trying to be too much. Just for riding

[@davidemms5176]

Thanks for the detailed review, i would be tempted to buy one if there was a centre stand for essential chain maintenance,cleaning,etc, royal enfield seem to be the only ones that fit them, the buck seems to be passed to the buyer to sort it out triumph are not much help, & don,t offer any help in after market paddock stands,

[@georgezuss2925]

Thanks, Nathan, fascinating and intriguing. Has all the potential to be a barnstormer if the puzzle pieces all fit without issues. Lovely looking thing; sounds fab, too. Has 'Triumph' written all over it, appearance-wise. I really hope they have a success; it just fires up the market and choice all the more. Puts a fire up the competitions rear echelons, too; which cant be a bad thing. As usual, though, useless to me...like most off-roaders. At 5'4", anything above 210mm seat has me on tiptoes. Not a huge issue on a road-bike but a pain in the Mariah Carey on an off-roader. Hence why the Himmy was such a revelation and proved that they 'could' make O/R machines for shorthouses like me but the manufacturers market just chooses not to. Hey, their loss; my 18grand for a GS is as good as the next bloke but if they're going to consistently make machines I cant use safely, then I'll just spend my money on cigareetes and whisky and wild wild wimmin, instead. Then I'll just waste what's left...😉. Really good to see the bike manufacturers putting in so much effort in all the other areas, though, this being a good example. I am captivated to see what you make of it. Plus, we have come to enjoy a total no-bull and solid service from your fine self, chap, hence, I'm confident your evaluation will be one to trust; albeit more from the perspective of someone who's skillset is morre geared toward off-road analysis. Cheers, bloke, keep smilin'...

[@vnm_8945]

I'm thinking buying it as my first bike, this or the Himalayan 452.

[@timothybrockbank7474]

Going to take a serious look at this thinking of downsizing from my 1200gs

[@michiganmoto7687]

Replace the low front fender with a high mount fender. Proper hand guards. Double take mirrors. Bigger foot pegs. Better dual purpose tires. This could be made to look like a proper retro scrambler I remember from my childhood and would be excellent for rural exploration and even some moto-camping. Wonderful weekend joyrides with the wife as pillion for casual sightseeing. Can’t wait to get a chance to throw a leg over one. ✌️

[@markbatt-rawden7950]

The bike is screaming out for spoke wheels

[@simonbarrow479]

Only tubeless ones please

[@michiganmoto7687]

Tube type allow you to run lower pressures when needed and in the event you do dent a rim it will still air back up where a tubeless won’t be able to seal the bead. It’s not that hard to change a tube and those who cry for tubeless probably don’t ride off road and should just stick to the cast wheels as they handle better on pavement due to the added rigidity and more positive feedback.

[@racheltaylor6578]

That would have bumped the price up.

[@enriquejaimes3368]

@@michiganmoto7687why would you want lower tire pressures? it is no a car… bikes don't work like that

[@seanfinlayson3943]

Yeah... Great fun when you get a puncture on a busy road in the rain... No thanks. Only if they're tubeless would I want spoked wheels.

[@maurofranzero4100]

Vista dal vivo,bellissima moto

[@billcarr6289]

Non linkage ktms can be lowered by using an off set budhing. Be interested to see how your shock is mounted.

[@walt7518]

I was looking forward to this one, I went to see it last year at a Triumph dealer and thought it would be a good bike for me. However I've now found out that the max payload is only 176Kg which is such a shame. I struggle to stay within the max payload of my meteor 350 and that can carry an extra 8Kg over this. So now I'll just have to watch others riding and enjoying it. 😥

[@daviddavies5627]

Do you think they'll end up doing a baby tiger? Id be interested in that for the commute to work. I love the look of this scrambler though, if i hadnt had bought a svartpilen 401 id have been right up for this!

[@marksimpson5218]

Nice bike

[@BikingChap]

Interesting timing, I've got a test ride on one today. My gut feel is that the 400x is a stylish little thing but setup purely for road work. Just those initial few seconds of off road video of yours seems to show quite limited suspension travel. For off road work I've got to put my money on the new Himalayan, it's got the suspension travel, the bigger front wheel, what I'm sure will be the gruntier engine... so i don't really see them as direct competitors, 400x for road work, Himi for off road. Now lets see if i take that all back after I've actually ridden one of them!

[@nathanthepostman]

I think you're spot on to be honest. The triumph is definitely more of a road bike. Always worth exploring what it will do but I don't think it belongs in Devon mud!

[@pskanp]

At this price spoked wheel with tubeless tyres would be hard to manage. For a bike enthusiast like me who uses a single bike for all chores, this is it. My only worry would be it's heat management in north Indian dry summer which shoots upto 48-50°C and spans a couple of months. Waiting for your trail/off road ride report nevertheless.

[@CoelhoSports]

Didn't know these things were ready for sale outside india, yet. This is ths first i've seen privately owned and this is the best color choice. I heard some would be made in thailand and the speed vs scrambler ratio to dealers is like 20:1.

[@kramnireehs]

I went for the BMW g310r although less power it's 0-60 and QTR mile are quicker due to lighter weight and lower gearing. I also fancied a change from retro styling.. BMW prettiest of modern style bikes

[@sicks6six]

Triumph looked at the market and said if we're going to build a light motorcycle that would appeal to old and new riders we have to pull out all the stops and they did (almost) IMO, someone will make an upswept exhaust system for the scrambler and a different seat and then you will have the perfect mid-sized machine as it is its 95% there it just needs that exhaust junked and a new seat, maybe a new bolt-on rear subframe, suspension travel is 150mm and the bike has 450mm of clearance making the seat very high, you have to lift that boot up high to mount it, I prefer a flat seat, especially for pillions, one thing that gets me is the wonky tank, sloping forward for some reason, but all the cables and wires are hidden, no rectifiers or CDI units bolted to the side of the frame on show, it looks expensive and mostly well thought out, except the seat, tank and exhaust ! PS If you bought this as an off-roader swap out the stock tyres for something more aggressive, something like the Michelin tracker @ £60. Avon does a really good road-legal off-road tyre the TrekRider but it is a bit costly @ £140 a pop for a rear, and I'm sure there will be many belly pans to fit it very soon if not available already via India,

[@cosmiccharlie8294]

I had a 1975 DT400 Yamaha 2 stroke Enduro. Went like a scalded cat.

[@Geshmaal]

Seems like a really good bike tbh, it's a shame we're at the point where a low cc bike made in India is how pushing up on £6k but that's where we are I guess! Actually sounds better than I expected too, although more "sporty" than "thumpy". I'm interested to see how this compares with some higher cc bikes like the Interceptor 650 and CL500 as well as it competes with them on price and specs.

[@BikingChap]

Having ridden it i think the key will be it's light weight, that's attractive to old farts like me who are finding bigger bikes are starting to get a bit much.

[@user-xl2st4xk5w]

Nice one Nath. With uk speed limits on their way down smaller bikes are clearly the future.

[@edv11n]

@Nathan how would you compare it to caballero 500 (rally)? I'm optimazing my choice for months and out of voge 300 rally, swm superdual, triumph scrambler x, honda crf300L (or rally), cf moto 450 mt, for me it's holy grail, when the lowest weight possible is a key. Drawbacks - wind protenction, luggage carrying. Any thoughts on that? Cheers!

[@zeppast]

As a new rider I'm inbetween the Scram 411 and this bike the Triumph 400x. Most people will probably say go with the 400x it's got almost twise the power and what not and that definitly is something I've considered. The thing is in the states where I'm from the Scram 411 is cheaper to insure and keep on the road I would also asume it's cheaper to service too and that's something that's imprtaint to me. Either way I think I would have fun with both bikes regardless but I still havn't made a decistion yet.

[@BikingChap]

Try and ride both, they're very different bikes.

[@skaraborgcraft]

Huzzah!

[@chriswills4064]

It's a good looking bike, and I was a little interested until you said about it's seat height being a bit more than my Himalayan. Bit of a deal breaker, as I am looking to downsize, in terms of weight and manoeuvrability.

[@bally632]

Nathan,I also saw the snapped swinging arm which initially shocked me 😮, but then I found out it was a hire bike that everyone had ridden as hard as they possibly could. Probably just trying to break it on purpose too keep the royal Enfield orders flooding in 🤔

[@BikingChap]

As Nathan said i wouldn't panic but keep an eye on it. That said i looked at the test bike i rode today and the swingarm is a very unusual design...

[@bally632]

@@BikingChap did you like it? Which one did you demo?

[@BikingChap]

@@bally632 it was the 400X which I had a deposit down on. I'm going to sleep on it as i found the front suspension quite harsh and want to try the new Himalayan. I think I'd rather have a 'chugger' than a sporty 400 single and whilst the 400X wasn't peaky it definitely had that frisky oversquare feel about it if you know what i mean and i think the Himi engine character and longer travel suspension might suit me better. Made a lovely noise though :)

[@bally632]

@@BikingChap Another one I'm considering is the Honda Cl 500. Alot of people say suspension is a bit bouncy, but that would be fine for me as I have internal problems in my stomach and I can't hack stiff suspension as it hurts me! The only small thing that's putting me off the CL is the small hard to see speedometer which you just know will get replaced by the large TFT type like the rest of the honda 500 range are getting for 2024!!

[@BikingChap]

@@bally632 the 500 motor is a peach and utterly bombproof but I haven’t ridden the CL. Ultimately if it’s what works best for you, go for it.

[@peebeeking3587]

Aluminum sump guard and crash bars are by default for India.

[@ogasi1798]

so damn pretty i would love a 500 with good ground clearance, longer travel and 21/18 wheels

[@BikingChap]

Sounds pretty much like the new Himi to be honest.

[@ogasi1798]

@@BikingChap yeah suppose it does, aside the styling

[@BikingChap]

@@ogasi1798 sure, I think the Himi styling is a big improvement on the earlier model, the only area that looks slightly odd is the way the lower edge of the tank kicks up towards the front but it's not a deal breaker for me personally, i need to get out on one ASAP.

[@ogasi1798]

@@BikingChap yeah i look forward to trying one, I do like the black n gold 😁

[@BikingChap]

@@ogasi1798 oh yes they know very well that version will prove popular hence why it’s priced at the top end. Do you if demos are available yet?

[@michaelgodliman436]

Brown seat is weird with the in ya face gold forks

[@biscuitsalive]

Looks interesting. After owning a Fantic Caballero 500 rally previously. I think this looks like a better option to me.

[@henrietn]

The fantic 500 is beautiful though. Why did you get rid of it if I may ask ?

[@biscuitsalive]

@henrietn had a few issues. And dealer wasn’t that helpful. Cut outs etc. Fun bike but I didn’t trust it. Ran very hot etc.

[@henrietn]

​@@biscuitsalivedamn that sucks. I thought about a fantic but I'll think I'll pass

[@biscuitsalive]

@henrietn I did a review of mine if it helps. Problems were small. But then I did ride it off road a lot, that tended to heat it up lots. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5yygombgt16f8Usi=oTtxkcfGjDfKwKi9

[@simonchilli2088]

Feel a bit for the Indian market as I think they've been used as guinea pig purchasers of these Triumphs and the new 450 Himalayan. Hopefully a lot of faults will be iron out by now on yours and the upcoming Himalayans.

[@TheINDIAN]

Nathen i disagree with you on your views on the Himalayan 411 . And i just struggle to see why you like it ,the 450 is better than the 411 but the 450 is unbearably top heavy . I am curious about what you think about the 400 triumph . Do you feel that the Indian motorcycle manufacturers should develop a unified 450 twin cylinder engine from Aprilia or CF Motos engine and platform share the engine with 3 way adjustable suspension components to make the most affordable 450 segment.

[@user-sw2lv3zp6o]

The Triumph looks top heavy. I prefer that Fantic. I am suspicious of Triumph. My 390 Duke Mk2 just about pulls top gear from 3,000 rpm, even though it has been geared up a touch. It does have a modified airbox, though. Light, as well. I'll stick with it. I like your boots. Nick

[@nathanthepostman]

Ha. Thanks. A lady gave them to me who had big feet. The Triumph is top heavy to be fair. As I said, feels heavier than the 390 although on paper about the same. This one definitely has more low down. Busy at 60mph. So I think the KTM's definitely the choice for the long miles.

[@oliviermagere]

Caballero 500 rally still seems more viable as a back lane and urban bike. Seat height scared me away a few months after my DAS. Also didn't like the exposed exhausts pipes.

[@user-sw2lv3zp6o]

@@oliviermagere DAS?

[@oliviermagere]

@@user-sw2lv3zp6o full UK motorcycle license

[@The1977andi]

If it stands upto some of the bad roads in india im sure it will great on uk green lanes.

[@MrYellowsocks]

Can you please share the link of webpage or doc which had all the bikes listed at the start of the video.

[@nathanthepostman]

Yeah sure it's my site, www.dorothysspeedshop.com

[@brandon4984]

Does this vin show this as an Indian or Thai built bike? I've seen lots of conflicting info about Bajaj built bikes for the Indian market and Thai built for Europe/North America and others saying they're all built by Bajaj in India

[@nathanthepostman]

I'm really struggling with reading the vin. Put the first few letters in and it just comes back with triumph motorcycles, not a nation. Am I reading it right?

[@bobz1736]

Thanks for the great review of this exciting new bike from Triumph 👍 Remember, preload adjustment only affects ride height and doesn't "stiffen the shock" 🤔

[@nathanthepostman]

Thanks for the correction bob

[@johnmartin7158]

Triumph have done a truly outstanding job in designing these 2 400cc bikes. They’re so awesome.

[@livesgas]

Honda CL500 all day. The twin cylinder engine is a peach. You have to compare it with the Triumph of you're including the Himalayan in the mix as it's the heaviest model of all. Himalayan 196kg Honda CL500 191kg Triumph 400x 175kg

[@roybatty2030]

Nice bike, except for the weight, which would be a concern on many trails.

[@nathanthepostman]

Yeah it's not a light bike. It's not a trail bike really. Gravel it'd be happy on

[@andyand100]

Linkless oh dear don’t think even Billy Bolt couldn’t get benefit of linkless big exhaust in way and isn’t linkless a ktm thing I’m dreaming of Sherco 500 mmmmmm❤

[@barnyardbrio7597]

why are they so heavy ? almost 400 lbs!

[@EnglishVeteran]

Yep. Sounds b like a motorcycle! 😂

[@Steve-motorcycles]

I believe the new Himalayan will have this beat for most circumstances. The Triumph is a pretty bike though

[@nathanthepostman]

I think you're probably right, but it's nice to have options

[@kevindarkstar]

Yeah I think that the RE 450 is designed to get off road and handle it, whereas the triumph 400 scrambler is more a road bike just wearing grean Lane clothes 😊

[@Steve-motorcycles]

@@nathanthepostman Yes, variety is the spice of life and all that.

[@bulthaosen1169]

​​@@kevindarkstar the triumph is the more road comfortable variant. The himalayan the more offroad variant. I guess it depends on what one needs

[@MichaelWilliams-jc2ui]

I’ve read toad tests on the new Himy and there’s a degree of disappointment with the engine. The suggestion is that it’s got a lot more vibes across the rev band and lacking in torque at low revs. We will see I guess!

[@paulwelch4373]

Supposedly, bikes for Europe are manufactured in Thailand.

[@nathanthepostman]

Yes I'll check that on the vin number

[@davidhawkins7465]

For UK bikes, build factory should be indicated by 5th digit (?)

[@BikingChap]

Having taken it out today I don't think it's what I'm really after. Motor is certainly punchy for a smallish single, you certainly don't have to rev it right out, to make decent progress. The exhaust is surprisingly fruity, I wouldn't want anything louder, quite how it got through noise limits i don't know but it sounds good. Brakes seemed fine, not cutting edge of course but perfectly good enough for what it is. I did pick up a bit of hesitancy of idle and it felt a little as though you had to give it a little more throttle than is normal to get it to pull away but i didn't really get an impression of it being easy to stall. So many modern bikes are leaned way off, Honda are still struggling with this on some bikes so this Triumph is no worse. Seat was not super plush but not a bruiser either. Less positives bits? I'm not a fan of the front end but couldn't really put a finger on it. The bars felt at a slightly odd angle (easy to rectify) but there was a slightly heavy feel to the front as though the tyre was a little oversized, maybe just me. The biggest surprise was how firm the front suspension was though, every little bump was felt which I didn't like much. Perhaps it's me thinking a scrambler style would mean longer travel, supple suspension but it felt, to me, unduly firm and short in travel. I can't imagine this working well off road without some serious re-working.

[@nathanthepostman]

No it's not just you on that heavy front end feel. I felt the same when I was out on it yesterday. Couldn't put my finger on it either. Same size tyre as 390 Adv (I think) and that feels sharp so all a bit odd. Agree on the firm suspension as well. It doesn't use what it's got that well. It's fine. But I think the aftermarket is going to improve it, but at what cost?

[@BikingChap]

@@nathanthepostman Interesting you felt the same. I still think it looks way better than the CL500 but just that it feels a little mismatched or perhaps a little more chassis development would've made the world of difference. Far, far off being a bad bike and a great basis for modification but as you say, at what cost? I'll be interested to hear what you make of yours with a few more miles covered. Thanks as ever Nathan.

[@bobbluesbarker]

A Triumph that doesn't need the clutch lever pulled in to start it? What's the world coming to! 😂😂😂

[@christopherreed442]

Like it, but not that colour and seat

[@carlrichards9333]

Crazy to think this bike is £5695 in UK whilst in India it's approximately £2695, a £3000 difference..."WHAT FOR" ????

[@nathanthepostman]

Same reason house prices, food, wages, taxes, operating costs etc are all completely different from here to there. I would imagine compared to the average annual salary the bike is 'cheaper' in the UK than it is in India.

[@colinturner3607]

Am I not very bright? Why are upside down forks being fitted to bikes designed to go off road. To me they should be the right way up with fork gaiters.

[@nathanthepostman]

Not sure to be honest. Maybe a mix of performance gains and cost savings. They're mainly all like it tho. Even the high end stuff on the KTM adventure bikes.

[@colinturner3607]

Cheers feller. Exposed forks at a level where stone chips are most likely. Crazy. A Triumph of style over substance. Secondly I am reading the Long Ride Home at the mo - some very funny bits. Thanks for some winter cheer.

[@hershchat]

It’s a Bajaj, badged as a Triumph. The quality and price combination is what sets India on the path to economic success. What you’re seeing is the reversing of trade, driven by economic reality, and by the fact that the Europeans can no longer bully their way to the top of the economic food chain.

[@nathanthepostman]

Yes India is building some great bikes at the minute no doubt.

[@logangodofcandy]

Engine designed by Triumph. Basic design and requirements also set by triumph

[@Yuvrajjjify]

the engine, chassis, styling are designed by triumph, nobody's doing any favour on anyone. Bajaj has bought the brand Vincent and the tech know how they will absorb from triumph will be put to use in making bajaj owned vincent bikes.

[@HunterVlog350cc]

😂😂😂 india is way ahead now all KZbinrs have completed this bikes indepth review/ experience review etec etc , post that Himalayan 452 alo got same and now current ownership experience in limelight is shotgun 650❤❤

[@leeinwis]

Now if you could just stop shitting in the street.

[@SubodhSinghRathore]

can you convert price in inr indian ruppees . its cost 3.20 lakh here. Thanks

[@davidhiggins7026]

Yes, both versions of Triumph's 400's are decent enough bikes. Just that both are unnecessarily overpriced. Both could and SHOULD be priced £1000 less in the UK. I won't go in to detail as to what it costs Bajaj to make and how much it effectively costs Triumph to get their hands on them. (Looking at what the sell for in India and working out the costs involved will show anyone what those low prices are. Folks do check this out for yourself and work it out). Just that even with production costs, export duty, delivery from India, UK VAT and UK dealer mark ups. What I say is, for an entry level Triumph that Triumph could have used it as a 'fish to catch a Maceral'. That actually in this instance, with all the 100 odd years of loyalty that some UK motorcyclist have shown Triumph over the years. Of previous past times, in great numbers. Perchance even our forebears. Maybe on this occasion, for just a pair of Triumph motorcycles, people can actually be given VFM and indeed get a real bargain. Such a bargain, and seen by all to be a blatant bargain, that further purchases of larger Triumphs would likely be on the cards. And a MASSIVE amount of these two 400's would be sold. UNDERCUTTING in sales a certain 'other' Indian MC manufacturer. (The competition!!). ONE extra MC that Triumph sell in place of one that a rival would likely sell is I suggest the best marketing strategy. ARE you listening Triumph? Triumph UK are just TOO GREEDY, it appears to me they are too greedy all the time. And want to be so. Give us a break Triumph. RECONSIDER your pricing on these two 400 versions!!. SLASH the overpriced price of both versions overnight by £1000. With the offer to all those that have purchased either a 400 Sport or 400 Scrambler a juicy £1000 towards accessories and servicing. So they do not feel they are missing out. Existing Triumph 400 owners and future ones will be blown away. WOW! they and the larger motorcycle community will say. 'WOW!, blimey Triumph' would be a collective held feeling. Along with feeling of goodwill to Triumph. A long lasting one. DO the right thing on this Triumph. A the moment you are missing a good trick. The People of the UK have given your outfit a great deal of loyalty and 'money' over the years. In this instance I say do us this favour. You can do it. I bet many of your existing Triumph customers would very much consider running two Triumphs. EVEN if currently to some existing Triumph owners these 400's will forever be motorcycles made in India by Bajaj. Getting their support as well will indeed show that you have cracked it. Phenomenal UK & EU sales will also show this. Whipping up masses of enthusiasm for your brand throughout the MC community. That later on would far exceed £1000 per sale. You are still making a profit on these 400's at £1000 less. Just don't be too greedy Triumph ALL the time. By occasionally wanting a bit less, you may well obtain more!!! A lot more. Yes then, both the 400 Sport & the 400 Scrambler are motorcycles that I would not mind owning. Decent enough looks, lengthy servicing schedules and performance. A 40hp motorcycle to me is more than good enough for anyone. With one particular addition to both bikes AT the prices I elude to. I would, had I the proper accommodation for one, buy one and try it out. A real good bit of fun. Especially that nice green coloured 400X. Better paint schemes in these two 400's than some other rival manufactures and their latest 452cc motorcycle paint schemes. WHAT a bike looks like being to me a big consideration and >>TRIUMPH

[@PreMixaLot]

I keep seeing comparisons with the Himalayan and not the Scram. Seems odd as both the Scram and this bike are scramblers; the Himalayan clearly is not.

[@nathanthepostman]

I think it's just because I've spent so much time on the Himalayan I tend to overlook the Scram and I'd personally always go Himalayan over Scram. But you're right, it's the one you'd compare to the Triumph.

[@pggp273]

You will never get away from the fact that this is a subcontract build motorcycle and the Triumph PR machine will have to go into overdrive to try to convince you that it is a real Triumph ,as opposed to a Royal Enfield which is let me think oh that will be a real Royal Enfield built in house by Royal Enfield.

[@nathanthepostman]

You're totally right, it is a subcontract bike and I agree the Himalayan will be better in many ways. But not in all ways. And not everyone wants a Himalayan. The existence of both bikes is a good thing imo

[@pggp273]

@@nathanthepostman Thank you that's fair and balanced reply 👍

[@guyonacub4335]

Very disappointing, really It's supposed to be a scrambler Wrong tyres, plastic bashplate, front fender to low Think once again we have an image bike Nice looks, but more money to be spent to get it where it is supposed to be Be interesting to see you really putting this bike through the lanes Lots of people have deposits on these bikes, and the real test will be how many are on ebay in a couple of months time Watching with interest Good luck

[@Interdiction]

Absolute crap engine . How can they sell this crap , It is absolutely foreign CRAP . The Honda CL 500 beats this crap to death . Do not waste you money