“I've Got The RECEIPTS!” Liam Payne Death | With Howie Mandel & Katie Waissel

The tragic and untimely death of One Direction singer Liam Payne was a terrible shock to music fans throughout the world. The exact circumstances for his fall from a third-floor balcony at the CasaSur hotel in Buenos Aires are currently unknown, but stories about Payne’s mental health before his death tell a tale of heartbreak and suffering. Should the blame lie with talent shows, the parents, or the entire entertainment industry?
To answer these questions, Piers Morgan hosts comedian and America’s Got Talent judge Howie Mandel, singer Katie Waissel, who appeared on X Factor alongside One Direction, comedian James Barr and Uncensored contributor Esther Krakue. As mainstays in the entertainment industry themselves, they all have a lot to say.
00:42 Introduction
02:45 Howie Mandel on Liam Payne’s death and the duty of care
06:40 Katie Waissel on mental health in show business
08:00 James Barr jumps in “we are all responsible”
11:10 “Liam talked publicly about his mental health and his drug addiction years ago”
12:59 “During our time on the show, there was no duty of care upheld”
14:40 “What did you expect by going on these shows?
22:15 “I’m someone who went through the wrongs of things”
24:16 Esther Krakue on the public attitude to Liam Payne’s death
25:28 What does duty of care look like 14 years down the line?
28:17 Esther asks “where are the parents?”
31:22 What is the link between X Factor in 2010 and Liam Payne dying at age 31 in a hotel room?
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[@rivkydiamant]

How ironic. A mental health episode ends with everyone bashing and bullying and not letting others speak or be validated. Amazing.

[@London20258]

Agree. Hilarious - I laughed through the whole segment

[@ritaflores613]

I see that a lot. People talking about mental health everywhere yet some of them are bullies themselves to begin with

[@iisabrennan3026]

Absolutely!

[@icecold5178]

😂😂

[@katcallinu15]

"We all need to be nicer to each other" then proceed to ridicule each other. Totally embarrassing.

[@WandererRMAU]

Loved when Katie basically said “my son is downstairs and he needs me and I’m doing your show even though I don’t want to be on your show so I’m going to go” and then stayed. 3 times.

[@ttjotracy8315]

if she didnt want to be on why was she?

[@Jtol88]

She must've been hypnotised, ridiculous woman 🙄

[@soniagordon2799]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@abigailleathart7649]

She annoyed me😂

[@Oyoking752]

of course, this is all they wanted, exposure and get clicks

[@Debthouse]

Esther Krakue is always the most dignified guest on this show, patiently waiting for her turn to speak and always presenting her views in an honest and respectful manner, even if it is contentious or controversial.

[@stephennagy6344]

Ha! Funny you say that, as I was watching I thought all the same things. She is beautiful and smart. She does hold herself very well!

[@juliettapea718]

I always think this when I watch her! She's so well-spoken, respectful and calm! And beautiful on top of it all.

[@Tamara_Middleton]

We definitely needed to hear more from Esther and way less from Katie!

[@factmanamerican882]

What's funny about your comment is....Esther is just being NORMAL. But surrounded by insane people, she seems brilliant. Nothing she's saying is really that smart, it's just all common sense. Something so many don't have these days. Now having said that, I do like to listen to anyone who speak the truth in a dignified way and Esther certainly represents that.

[@Tamara_Middleton]

@@factmanamerican882 what’s funny about your comment is the assumption that common sense is common. It’s not! Common sense is a weapon for the intellectual not the emotional.

[@hicsumfabulalepus]

Howie's comments nails it. We don't treat mental health the same way we would a physical issue.

[@jakebutler1095]

Liam Payne has not been on that show in over a decade. The people that should be questioned are his team. His management especially for not stepping in.

[@philclegg8169]

Where’s his family?😢

[@nutcracker2916]

@@philclegg8169 Yes, and who was his drug dealer ?

[@peterlee584]

Exactly.

[@scotth5944]

Take responsibility for yourself not expecting other people to do it

[@jakebutler1095]

@@scotth5944 if you read my other comments I elaborate on that.

[@winickp]

James criticises Piers and his show but yet comes on every week

[@jefryt67]

Yea, same with that young democratic spokesman he has on. What's up with that??

[@winickp]

@@jefryt67 who’s that?

[@jefryt67]

@@winickp he's in the previous video about Trump. The last person on the thumbnail.

[@juntus89]

It's easy money obviously

[@gazXspace]

Can you believe he's a comedian?????? He's so insip

[@flutterbyblue3639]

As a mother of six adult children, i have one adult child who struggles with what is traditionally known as addiction... how much responsibility do we place on the people in his orbit or him? He is my child, i take responsibility for where he's at today, but i also recognise the choices he has made, and still makes. Im not going to waste his life blaming others. I'd rather spend my energy helping him find peace with the man he is!

[@SharonM-b1g]

What a lovely parent you are. Wishing you every success in what you are doing. Great admiration and respect to you.

[@nifflofair6685]

Liam was thrust into this madness at a very young age , so his managers, producers become his family really and are responsible for him and his well-being, he's just a money maker to dome unscrupulous people in show business.

[@wombats5128]

Liam chose to enter xfactor, he chose to continue in the industry. He also loved having the wealthy lifestyle it gave him. Nothing in life comes without a cost , people work 8 hours a day and never reach the wealth Liam had. At 31 Liam has to be responsible for his choices good and bad

[@amithas9545]

More power to you❤

[@yasmina7548]

Ester is right! What about Zayn Malik! He had a very public mental breakdown where he couldn’t cope and left the band and disappeared. No interview, no shows, no PR shoots - nothing! He was on a downward spiral but I suppose people around him stepped in and he himself knew he couldn’t carrion like this.

[@sue8046]

Katie Waissel comes on & says she's there to talk about her 'dear friend' & spends the whole time making it about herself & the issues she still has with Cowell, like 15 year later!

[@Earth-angel1212]

Exactly that 💯💯💯

[@sherileenlambert2784]

Well, she certainly drew attention to herself.

[@londonengland1231]

That is the only reason she is on. She is rude & badly behaved.

[@andiNZ2020]

She certainly Hams up being on a reality show 15 years ago. It’s obviously all she has. Pathetic really.

[@sofiasaviranta5640]

..they are attacking her personally so very common response and if they'd stop interrupting her that could move on towards recent events.

[@LadyDazzleDance]

Katie "I never wanted to be on the show or this show".... Also Katie "me, me, me, me, me, me, me me, it's all about me"

[@susiesiev]

She is so so annoying

[@MysticalWren1111]

I respect her opinions but dang, those constant eyerolls and facial expressions. She belongs in the theatre not in a debate like this.

[@officialWWM]

Modern women…

[@jairusjackson7799]

@@officialWWM No this is a specific type of woman, the attention seeker!

[@debjordan6810]

Absolutely agree

[@cuscadyn]

Katie just made it glaringly apparent why she didn't make it very far on X Factor.

[@ChristineNewton-t9v]

Hit nail on head!

[@karencassidy345]

No respect for this lady to speak

[@Carolrose1111]

She didn’t sell her soul

[@jessiem276]

​@@Carolrose1111OH, please!

[@aamaliyahkhan1524]

​@@Carolrose1111more like her voice didn't sell!!

[@lenaburns]

Wow so glad you had Howie on. I love that he’s an advocate for mental health wellness.

[@rozcindylove4583]

What is her gripe that the world found out about her nan?

[@fionaestherfortuin4185]

Howie has a phobia an went for help

[@samiamoonn]

Katie comes across very entitled. The world owes her NOTHING.

[@JoE-yw9hk]

She was like in when she was on the X Factor

[@adamllana1443]

@@JoE-yw9hk leave her alone she had to feed her son

[@NYCgirl927]

She comes across angry that she didn’t win. 14 years later. OMG Her mental health is screwed up. Kept mentioning her hungry son waiting for dinner. Cracked me up

[@thebreadthingy]

So now it's IMPOSSIBLE for Women with children to behave professional while on a debate?? Pick a Struggle. Be on the internet de dating or be a full time mother. Stop giving her excuses. She's a grown entitled brat.

[@cyberone2763]

🎯

[@azazelren]

Esther is always giving a MASTERCLASS on PATIENCE

[@zactacon]

She is the best

[@agk9700]

this Katie Waissel went on Big Brother, cried over an old man making a harmless Jewish joke and got him thrown out the house and labeled a racist. Did she care about his mental health? She sounds like a professional victim.

[@richierich1129]

Is she even married? Together? I doubt it.

[@marielle129]

She sounds so thirsty for attention. Piers handled her brilliantly 👏. Besides her rude facial expressions when anyone else was talking- she said a bunch of word salad when it was her turn . Can’t even put together a complete thought . 😂

[@GlobeKrusha]

Thank you for addressing the JP. All roads lead to Tel Aviv Zion.

[@liverpoolpotter4155]

In all fairness Biggins made bad comments about bisexual people too

[@deepblack2193]

@@liverpoolpotter4155so

[@Bocca202]

He was an adult, a 31 year old man. He is responsible for his decisions himself. He paid consequences of HIS actions. Ppl pick a mental health as an excuse for any action. I am tired of that.

[@corneliuscornia3189]

True

[@lynfletcher7744]

agree 100% with you ..

[@fevertreelover]

Completely agree. This eternal victimhood has to stop. The entitlement has to stop.

[@jodellbattles7058]

MENTAL HEALTH IS REAL. SHUT UP

[@Claudia-hd6bx]

As someone who lost her partner of 5 years to a drugs overdose after helping him so many times until I was at a loss myself. They have to want to get clean themselves! Nothing will work otherwise!

[@paulflynn9527]

Sorry for your loss

[@PrettyEastAfrican]

Pin this

[@hellfirecorner9022]

Experienced the same heartbreaking loss, the guilt and exhaustion is real, so sorry for your loss ❤

[@mamiluisamia]

to tell the truth, the only thing I saw ppl saving their lives from addictions was Jesus Christ.

[@paulflynn9527]

@@mamiluisamia that's just not true

[@reinemarais4392]

The patience of Ester. Thank you, dear Ester, for being a lady.

[@JacReganX]

💯 😊

[@GlobeKrusha]

I think Ester had her green screen on loop.

[@Bella_Pixie_Girl]

She's taking note of everything that they're saying. Esther is classy 💯🙌🏻❤️

[@PerrenialMillennial]

@@Bella_Pixie_Girl Very true, that.

[@fevertreelover]

I love her. Speaks facts.

[@celinemc]

I'm actually embarrassed for katie , blaming Simon is so ridiculous , there are consequences for your own actions!

[@susannahp8107]

She was behaving like a child, the constant eye rolling was embarrassing!

[@jodieHaby]

I thought the same, but now I question myself...look into the connection that Simon sold Liam to Diddy...Maybe she was onto something?

[@livingart2576]

She says she didn’t want to be on the panel? Hmm… I wonder why she has been on multiple talent shows and now this…? She just wants attention and that’s it. Pretty obvious really!

[@acgrant5417]

Am worried for her son cause she clearly has serious mental health issues that blur he judgement and rationale thinking or touch with reality….she is nut!

[@soniavangar1628]

I thought this was about the late Liam Payne's struggle? God bless his soul and give his family and friends the strength to get through this hard time.

[@Footnote56]

I always appreciate the appearance Esther Krakue on your show. To my mind, she is a reliable voice of reason.

[@Jogibbo1234]

Always. James said vile things about The Princess of Wales and her cancer diagnosis and then sits there spouting kindness! Ultimate hypocrisy.

[@poetrymotion2027]

What does sje have to say about Chris Kaba.??? PEIRCE you just have her there as your prop.. got her mind controlled too to serve your stupid show and agenda! You don't truly care! None of you do! Tupac cared tho!

[@Peacefulpursuit05]

I agree. She's so beautiful too😊

[@Caareenkm6726]

@@Jogibbo1234he’s a drama Queen! 😂

[@donnaheard24]

​@@Jogibbo1234 I can't stick him loves the sound of his own voice!!

[@user1245-p1p]

Well, we are all very shocked, and feel sorry for Liam but Howie Mandel is correct, Liam was already 31 years old, with a child, with a family and working "solo", his life was in his hands, unfortunately

[@dianeevans3047]

I appreciate to certain extent what you say but he was very young into the limelight and was obviously not coping. Somebody should have picked up on that and helped him. It's easy to say he should have been able to deal with it at his age but when there are demons it's difficult to get rid. Have some empathy please.❤

[@HoneyQuint]

​@@dianeevans3047 nobody was supposed to do anything. All of it is his choice and his fault.

[@missriss_xoxo]

The fact that that girl thought she needed to make a face when every single person talked for every single second is WILD.

[@piercingvideos6030]

Fr she rlly ruined it

[@gossipmongersaunt774]

She’s Jewish

[@danielgill2219]

that got on me nevers no one understands where people are coming from when they have bad metal health its beyond a total joke and embarassing

[@aamaliyahkhan1524]

Yet could hardly compose sentences correctly herself

[@michaelxz1305]

🙄

[@court43211]

Katie Waissel proved herself to be completely unprofessional during this interview. She didn't even deserve the platform you granted her through her appearance. Her points of view are ridiculous.

[@londonengland1231]

She is unbelievable bad mannered.

[@LorenaMartinez-gs4fe]

She made everything about herself

[@SnrMusic-nb6lj]

I’m sorry but Katie is a bit of a self proclaimed victim. All the aching gestures on her face throughout. I get that she’s had a terrible experience.. but she’s clearly looking for sympathy. Maybe don’t come on Piers Morgan expecting a therapy session..

[@oysterman962]

Probably had her 6 year old son against her will too. Who's & where's the father?

[@richardfromkennington]

​@@oysterman962 FACTS!

[@crabin1938]

Cyenk vibes

[@ChazeGeyer]

Don’t know Katie personally but it doesn’t talk a Clinical Psychologist to see she’s wrestling with her own overall mental health

[@WCPC25]

X10

[@aleverett4]

Howie is absolutely correct! The biggest issue here is mental health. It's ridiculous to hold the TV shows that made these people famous accountable for what they do a decade plus later

[@seanprice9626]

Lmao, no. The biggest issue here is Hollywood being full of predators that create those mental health issues in the first place.

[@fersok8607]

I can't agree more

[@Caareenkm6726]

Let’s not forget drugs do cause mental health issues.

[@aleverett4]

@@Caareenkm6726 agreed.

[@boomds5602]

If they offered them support while they are rising to fame it would make a world of difference. I don’t want him on Canada’s got talent with his attitude

[@ryangentry9236]

That woman is classic example of “I want to be a victim”

[@agk9700]

she went on Celebrity Big Brother and an old sweet man Christopher Biggins made a light joke about people from Jerusalem and because this Katie is descendant from there she started crying made it into a big deal got this guy thrown out of the house and labeled a racist and antisemite. Did she care about that old man’s mental health? Of course not! And she was a nutcase on that show she clearly has a short fuse.

[@Caareenkm6726]

Another MEGALIAR Meghan Markle.

[@PiousPatriot]

she cant even sing.. she trying to ride the hype ! Selfish.. abselut selfish

[@truebluedots4776]

An Amber Heard syndrome

[@Crinkle.Stilt.Skin.]

Its more a case of narcissism not mental health. If you know you know.

[@ellielaw4614]

This Katie is incredibly ANNOYING, I thought she said she was going like 3times?…

[@michaelxz1305]

Apparently her kid is not as important as she claims

[@OmegaDelta82]

Something tells me Katie thought this would be an opportunity to show how smart she is but she failed miserably

[@stephengallagher2209]

I'd say she showed precisely how smart she is. 😂

[@adamllana1443]

@@stephengallagher2209 she’s just trying to feed her son, give her a break

[@Caareenkm6726]

@@adamllana1443oh her 6 year old? Ok 😂.. she should have thought of that before going on air!

[@stephanenoutsa]

Dishing out word salads

[@denisepaulsenful]

She’s a complete moron.

[@SueH8]

Katie, Simon Cowell does not have a duty of care 15 years later... get over yourself.

[@truebluedots4776]

Or 2 years or 5 years after...

[@bokugou2936]

To liberals-It's always someone else's fault. They/re always a victim. no personal responsibility

[@henryvalentine4976]

" I was on the show 14yrs ago"😂😂😂 why r they even talking to this loser

[@terencemarshall]

She's just gutted she didn't become famous so she is trying to grab attention a different way. Silly girl.

[@christinejolliffe8002]

I don't think she's saying that but that had a structured support program been in place at the time things may have been different. Effects are accumulative. Young developing nervous systems need to be given the resources to cope with the nervous system dysregulation that comes with instant fame, fans, media attention...etc They make enough money off these programs and subsequent sales so they are responsible for a sensible program of care for a period of time. If that was provided disaster may be averted and people may not reach for substances.

[@bfunk9572]

Speaking of mental health, this woman needs it NOW. SEND IN A TEAM

[@Kara-kx1lb]

She sure does need mental health!!!

[@s.tupper4159]

Huh?? What a bizarre comment!

[@nayediaz1603]

¿The one in white blouse? Looks like she need someone to help

[@boomds5602]

She seems fine, it’s piers that needs the help. He’s a nasty man

[@ChristineNewton-t9v]

Just a microphone and a mirror all she needs to feel normal.

[@aneladee2801]

HOWIE!! ❤❤❤ thank you so much for being open with your mental health issues! I Also have A through Z!! Thank you so much for being honest about taking your medication’s! You are the perfect example of how to manage and use your mental health for the good in life by doing the right things such as therapy and taking your medication. I’m so thankful that God put the desire in me to be consistent with my medication and therapy, which I will probably have to be on for the rest of my life, but it’s worth it.! Thank you Piers!!🙏🏼

[@Dani4True]

He’s loaded on amphetamines.

[@bec6099]

I'm not a Howie fan but him signing off during Katie's lunatic rant was epic

[@stelladevers5334]

Howie is a genius ❤

[@hadesunderworld4203]

It really was 😂😂😂

[@hadesunderworld4203]

She looks like a reptilian / elf / demon

[@KaElWahel]

😂😂😂😂

[@Musiklife.9049]

@@stelladevers5334haaaahaaa He looked more like a narcissist on this

[@nenax24x]

When they are young, it's the parent's fault. When they are an adult, it's their own responsibility.

[@snoox27]

100% agree

[@sean79C]

Agreed. Parents have Legal Parental Responsibility!!! Not the record industry!!!

[@graemesherlock1955]

Somehow I dont think Katie is gonna win her court case

[@theforgottenbrawlers]

She wants that ££££

[@adamllana1443]

@@theforgottenbrawlers she’s trying to feed her son

[@Caareenkm6726]

@@adamllana1443he’s 6 .. she should have thought of that..

[@lisahainsworth983]

10th on a reality talent show 14 years ago....didn't win.. Waaaaaaaah

[@truebluedots4776]

She's just after fast big cash and in this life there ain't no "easy" money...

[@SirachaKetchup]

They refused to let this woman speak. Literally talked over her the entire time.

[@MrMacca75]

Rumour has it that Katies child is still waiting for their dinner

[@annlove7983]

😂

[@nancyallbright9240]

🤣🤣🤣

[@manctwo-wheeler9341]

Best comment so far! 😅

[@rogelekedomayong2124]

🤣🤣🤣😂

[@Jody_veg]

Haha, she didn't want to to the interview but obviously had a gun to her head. 😂She came across really badly.

[@gronidahunter1390]

Why is a show responsible for the man 14 years later.

[@emmarobinson1318]

Exactly! He was a grown man and a father

[@derdesdemden1234]

@@emmarobinson1318 He was indeed a dickhead.

[@tooturtly]

because theyre on it. duty of care makes sense. they need food, water, and a bathroom too... no not 14 years later. no.

[@Nick-fk1in]

A show that takes advantage of children, making money off of them. Cowell is a satanist

[@Fashionseesta]

@@tooturtlylol, do you not think that what happens to someone at 14 doesnt affect them life long?

[@doreck07]

As a recovering addict you wont stop until you take responsibility for your actions.

[@EmmaLeaSwing]

As Liam mentioned in his podcast, during xfactor, he was left, as a child , in a hotel room, told not to leave, WITH a fully stocked mini bar. This is what started his issue with alcohol (party for one, he called it!) and ultimately what then contributed to him losing his life. Had there been sufficient safeguarding from Syco, then this would never have happened in the first place. I know there are many contributing factors here, but maybe had he not been put in this situation, at such a young and impressionable age, things might have ended differently. More control measures need to be put in place for the underage contestants, as they need it most.

[@Ang-NY]

S/O to Esther, this woman is always respectful, never disrespects anyone.. always waits for her turn.. just a nice lady…

[@sue8046]

I certainly don't always agree with her but you're right on that, she's a great panelist she listens & puts her points across really well.

[@LenaRibeiro1968]

I agree with you - Esther is a very professional person and a very intelligent person

[@ColetteBlack]

Yes a lovely lady, with a few generally valid points who thinks Beyonce is an upstanding mother and a great idol for society.

[@sisanaviveiros8520]

forget it,maybe to you.She is very very disrespectful to people way older than her in other shows here in the UK.

[@rexmundi1812]

Please no more James and definitely no more Katie, she’s unhinged.

[@terencemarshall]

That fool could argue that the colour blue is green if you said so, he is horrific!

[@annedoyle222]

I often wonder how anyone can end up as idiotic as Jamsie boy

[@sharfalor4244]

​@terencemarshall not a great analogy as you do in fact need the colour blue to make green.

[@timshields8720]

James is terrible. I wish they'd send home back to his hole.

[@pithius2191]

add the creepy bald narcissist to that list too please.

[@nudsh]

Can we all just take a moment to look away from the trainwreck Katie and James were and behold how beautiful Esther is?

[@c.ggoldie6696]

💯

[@user-se8so5hb9g]

Absolute Queen 👸 ❤

[@MVK123]

Why does her appearance matter? If you think she made better points, then say that

[@ryanstockley9495]

Irrelevant comment

[@nudsh]

@@MVK123 because I chose to admire her appearance, its that simple.

[@lauraschmidt2109]

Howie is so right about the lack of mental health care in the US - from an RN who sees this every day in her profession!

[@UKSTRAINS]

She never wanted to be on the X factor she didn't want to be on Piers Morgan show but she here.

[@carolburke9153]

She's a walking contradiction.

[@LadyBird-n2t]

She needs to freaking grow up and take responsibility for HER choices..

[@bradleywilson5641]

@@carolburke9153while her kid is downstairs waiting for his tea 😅

[@Divasdinosaursanddemons]

@@LadyBird-n2t What are HER choices? She was abused by the British public for years in the most horrific ways and the GP still won't accept that? It's insufferable.

[@Jeff-ih8gi]

@@Divasdinosaursanddemons The public either embraces you or not, whose fault is it?

[@thebarkermc]

Katie's argument is like saying The Apprentice still has a duty of care to Piers. What planet does she live on?

[@emmadawson3900]

After so long, it's up to yourself for a duty of care. I was abused 34 years ago, I sort out my own duty of care now after taking him to court

[@StephenRidleyTV]

Planet Irresponsibility

[@fevertreelover]

Planet koo koo bird

[@zah936]

​@@emmadawson3900 👏👏👏🔥

[@positivevibration7145]

Piers really really really needs a "mute the other guests button". Thank you so much.

[@Duncan.Terrace]

That would be hilairious 🤣Just to see their angry faces still whining ,in silence 😂.

[@MrPookes]

I have thought that many a time but it wouldn’t be Piers Uncensored then😂

[@williamf4544]

Oh no - one of them Graham Norton chairs would be better

[@goread5544]

He needs a “mute himself” button

[@williamf4544]

@@goread5544 yes

[@cynthiadenniston8741]

So is Katie talking about X-Factor and saying she was asked to go on the show REALLY!! Didn't she go to audition so I don't get why she's saying Simon asked her 🤔

[@sbm5379]

That Katie one seems to have grudge against the fact no one knows who she is.

[@ronnie5472]

🤣💯

[@swizzler8053]

She said a million time that she was in the 2010 show 😂

[@williambrown1970B]

That Katie is definitely a fruitloop she's bitter because she's a failed popstar 😂

[@gazXspace]

That Katie one 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@evelynordonez6420]

😂😂😂Lol exactly

[@AussieLJ]

Esther's face is everyone's face watching this segment - Esther you are a gift

[@clairemannion2]

OMG…what happened to Liam, as tragic as it is, is Liam’s responsibility, no one else’s. Life is hard. Everyone has it hard. You are responsible for your own life. Period. Simon has no responsibility in this. Liam was on the show a very long time ago

[@erzsebethyoung]

OMGgosh, his girlfriend Kate Cassidy could have been his handler. She worked in a Bar named Ritual when they met. Beyonce was at the same hotel as Liam. P Diddy was arrested 16th September. Liam died 16th October. What if Liam went into witness protection before Diddy goes to trial.

[@daniasharifi702]

Yes!!

[@Tahj-Leigh]

​@erzsebethyoung Somebody forgot to take their meds .... you sound ridiculous

[@megthomas580]

Liam having responsibility for his actions, which he did, for only he could save himself, does not mean Simon has no responsibility. If your going to make millions off a teenage boy, you have a duty of care towards them.

[@butjustwhy3931]

💯

[@staceyhall7159]

Piers is fortunate that these two young people were unable to clearly communicate. This video has nagged at me. Simon Cowell, his employees and shows treat children as a commodity. The more I think about this in the context of the music industry and Hollyweird the more I think there's a lesson to be learned for parents and a possible civil suit towards those involved in some cases. Howie's defensive and shaking and Piers is defensive constantly interrupting. This video is proof that instead of caring these two men are on the defensive.

[@antoniajane5442]

No way should Simon Cowell still be held responsible for someone 14 years down the line?! No way would Liam have wanted a caretaker at 31!

[@Caareenkm6726]

No one with a brain believes that.

[@boomds5602]

That’s not what anyone is suggesting

[@michaelxz1305]

Ester just said that 14 years down the line and Katie just cackled

[@jamesryan82]

Everyone seems to be forgetting that everybody that is an adult is, at the end of the day, responsible for themselves! So stop blaming everyone else!

[@becky9334]

Liam was 14! That’s a child in the uk!

[@GKMusik1]

The two children in the middle throwing tantrums and pulling faces were hilarious

[@sherileenlambert2784]

And disrespectful!

[@cleopatrabeauty3753]

Liam was a beautiful talented ❤ young man. No one is perfect we all have our demons. Some have it all yet still struggle inside with some kind of childhood trauma which festers out of control during adulthood temporarily filling the void of emptiness inside 😢

[@PerrenialMillennial]

People are responsible for their own actions as adults, absolutely ridiculous.

[@gcanada3005]

Yes

[@soupsandwich1]

Grown adults need to take responsibility for themselves. Period.

[@dalebrennan7615]

Very true and everybody has a friend or family member they can talk to if they wish

[@OmegaDelta82]

See the way it is that if they are continually successful making money having concerts across the world then it is them and their talent that got them there. But when it goes south like it did for Liam it is everybody else's fault. It's typical victimhood narration and people glorifying it

[@nutcracker2916]

@@dalebrennan7615 Not always. Even some so called "Friends" or family can be exploitative .

[@dalebrennan7615]

@@nutcracker2916 you should know the one s to trust 👍💚

[@jayobhoy248]

"I'm upset because i never made it" - Katie

[@atreidesN]

That’s the angle piers kept trying to introduce with the tenth place shtick. Didn’t really work, it’s not surprising they all got screwed up by that experience. Saying that it’s all fair game because they might get famous is a shallow defence for those shows.

[@sc00basteve84]

Show business has been chewing people up and spitting them out for decades, everyone knows this... be careful what you wish for

[@angkeats7111]

Can't even get a chance to speak properly. None of them are actively listening they're too concerned about what they want to say next.

[@zebraswag1106]

it’s about how a 16 year old boy didn’t go home for 5 years straight and worked 24 hours a day 365 days a year for that entire time and how that likely had a gigantic negative impact on mental health when the “duty of care” during the time was to lock them in their hotel rooms after every show.

[@zebraswag1106]

that’s how it relates to 31 year old liam payne still struggling with mental health years later after already having so much fame and money and not knowing who or what to trust bc everyone has an incentive when it comes to just who you are as a person

[@2377shortie]

I think someone needs to keep an eye on Katie. She seems on the edge

[@Caareenkm6726]

Her 6 year old is irritating her for food.. 😂..

[@didimaz1275]

😂😂😂😂

[@azizasams6966]

😂😂😂😂​@@Caareenkm6726

[@corriemumford2783]

Stop gaslighting 🥱

[@valerierosel2399]

It’s absurd to think the talent show has to have a lifetime duty of care. What about Liam’s family, Cheryl, his fiancée that most likely knew about his relapse, etc. absurd!

[@gardamun]

Indeed. Furthermore, who on earth would want the talent show execs to provide that care? I sure the heck wouldn't. This care is supposed to come from your own care system, your beliefs, worldviews, people you confide in and open up to (professional or other) etc.... I've struggled with things under different employers, but I went to my wife and friends to talk things through. I wouldn't want the company I work for to provide some weird type of counselling for me. That would almost seem invasive.

[@kathleenmcdonald6641]

We really don't know what happened. We do know he was doing a boatload of drugs at the time. Liability, yes, while he was on the show. There is no liability once the show was over and many years down the road. Katie Waissel is deluded into thinking otherwise.

[@EggzOverEZ]

Dont think thats what was said or meant. They do while they are on the show and thats what was stated.

[@Caelc15]

this is just more about its everyone elses fault and no one will take personal responsibility

[@alis6837]

I think she was meaning if the duty of care was there and actually worked from the beginning things might have been different

[@almira565]

It was indeed a tragedy but I totally agree with Esther, at the age of 31and a father he had all the time and money to get himself sorted.

[@danielle5980]

Yes absolutely!!

[@susanlovendahl9803]

Alcoholism, drug addiction, are diseases. How easy that is forgotten

[@lisamunn1550]

Maybe he didn't think he needed the help. Not everyone recognizes their own mental health problems

[@kamsb]

19:22 Piers “let ppl speak” continues to interrupt everyone when he hears something he doesnt like 😂😂

[@normaspigaburgess8821]

Clearly she didn’t accept the invitation to speak about Liam Payne but blab about her own anger and frustration for failing to become relevant.

[@sherileenlambert2784]

Absolutely 💯

[@michaelxz1305]

🙄

[@Jg90125]

Katie rolling her eyes, she’s not a nice person

[@Hemma-mm]

And you are of course …

[@maryoleary2037]

Katie is a diva and a drama queen.

[@fitprotunes]

​@@maryoleary2037exactly

[@BradleyWynne]

Well at least she is standing up for Liam. That's the main thing.

[@Caareenkm6726]

Attitude 😂

[@travismayselah]

My goodness, Katie might be the most insane person I’ve seen on this show. No self control of her emotions. That’s saying a lot, Katie start taking responsibility for your actions and get some help!

[@amcc79]

People slating Katie on here should actually follow the lady & listen to what she actually has to say. Then you might understand why shes eye rolling & reacting the way she is etc. Piers keeps discrediting her for a reason & wont let her speak, did you ever wonder why hes doing that!!!

[@lisamcginley-o3t]

Well.said .... I've followed Katie and what happened to her under Simon Cowell and him organising the situation hence why there is a court case going on

[@the50oldyoutuber]

my 6 year old's son's a priority....but i have to sit here...oh god. really

[@wendell2809]

This is better than the Kardashians Show. The lady on the far right is so chilled, love her.

[@winickp]

How do you know she’s far right?

[@welshgirl6934]

​@@winickpLol😂

[@juliaokami7123]

@@winickp 🤣😂

[@userMelC]

Esther is fabulous. She is calm, mature, respectful, fair and intelligent. She is always a very welcome panel guest.

[@Absentzeroh]

@@winickp😂

[@sonrise1]

Katie Waissel - nightmare personality

[@nicgreen6501]

Insufferable

[@qi1gl]

Can't anyone hold a civil conversation anymore without interrupting one another? This is unbearable to watch.

[@YD-uq5fi]

Katie is so insane that James actually doesn't stand out as the weird one here.

[@carolball5764]

That’s what I thought , and he was quite content to sit back and let her take centre stage lol 😂😂

[@AGreenG]

Whether he killed himself or it was accidental, the only person responsible for Liam was Liam. Also, Katie has said a whole load of nothing in this interview. Instead of answering, she just says "I'm happy to do X Y Z" or "my son is downstairs wanting dinner".

[@bumpnuglies]

Say a prayer for whoever has to live with her 🙏

[@il42]

i know right? 😂 How many times has she threatened to go and make dinner. Just go and make it already. I could just see her kid sitting infront of empty an plate, getting his hopes up every time mum mentioned making dinner for him, only for his hopes to be dashed.. again...

[@meaningfulmakings]

I wonder what kind of therapy these people get. My therapist would have wiped the floor with me if I had come up with as many excuses as she is. “I did y want to do xyz” well work on your boundaries then ! Stop blaming everyone one else. Her son needing his dinner is the least of his problems. Liam died through addiction, the others haven’t - so what’s people’s beef with Simon.

[@nl020]

She’s a nightmare and completely useless in this interview.

[@sarawood2558]

@@bumpnuglies😂

[@Sh4r0n68]

The problem with these arguments is that people today don’t take responsibility for themselves. It was obvious that Liam had issues long ago and he has a family to care for him. The parents have a duty to be an advocate for children in show business

[@amazingsylvie1474]

I was really disappointed in Howie claiming to be a mental health advocate and then really going after that young lady and being a bully. Holy cow. Jay Z must have really scared Piers Morgan because he censored that young lady.

[@I_Am_Terf_Rocks]

Katie kept saying she’s didn’t want to be on the show (X Factor)…..what does that mean? SHE left her house, travelled to the auditions, had the audition and was given a place as a contestant in the live shows……SHE chose to take part, so HOW on earth can she say she didn’t want to be on the show? It makes NO SENSE at all. And look at her whilst Esther is speaking…..she is NOT listening, she is waiting to respond…….Esther sat patiently for like 10 mins and listened politely, whilst everyone else spoke, and as soon as she started speaking Katie sits there rolling her eyes and making faces…..she is so rude & clearly an attention seeker, who hasn’t gotten being rejected 14 years ago and projecting HER OWN struggles to this conversation. Get therapy Katie and get over it.

[@sue8046]

Yep my thoughts exactly

[@ms.kulilit3085]

Exactly👌🎯

[@joshuawilliams7734]

That's true and I don't know if I'm mis-remembering but didn't dermot o'Leary spill the beans that the show was fixed for Katie to win - and then I think on the second occasion she complained about not getting the right music/ song and so the first time it was rigged for her to win and on the second go-around it gets rigged to see her to fail.

[@lexip9225]

We are all responsible for the mental health of other people? That's a crazy statement. I'm responsible for my OWN mental health, that's it.

[@ConstantiaVerted]

I think he even initially said we're all *legally* responsible. 😅

[@ceriliz289]

Exactly

[@twmax6525]

I feel like societies and the collective culture can have something to do with it. Which is made up of individuals.

[@Fashionseesta]

You are society.

[@beegalli1158]

That's selfish and lacks humanity

[@justylex]

I think an important question to ask is WHEN Liam was first exposed to alcohol and hard drugs like crack and cocaine. If it was during his time on One Direction, especially in the early years when he was a minor, then YES, Simon Cowell’s company absolutely holds some responsibility here. Who was watching over these boys as they were travelling from country to country and hotel to hotel to make sure they weren’t being exposed to or offered stuff they should not have been?

[@cm4sq90]

It was, started with the alcohol when they were in hotels and weren't allowed outside their rooms

[@rosipage1606]

👏👏👏

[@katey614]

They were exposed to way too much, way too soon, and Syco could've prevented A LOT of it. When you accept responsibility for someone else's child, it means ACTUALLY being responsible in the way that you care for them.

[@dannyg9468]

Cocaine is crack, there not two different drugs🙄

[@mamiluisamia]

Morgan...listen her answer, let her speak!! This interview is called "uncensored" ... there is censure, in the form of: interruptions!

[@Basbhat]

You must have missed the part where she interrupted every time Howie opened his mouth lol

[@kevinbaker7923]

Essentially she is saying if you are with an employer, say for years, once you leave that employer, that company is still responsible for your mental health...

[@Josh-k4v]

@@sdiogo82 So given that logic, an employer is legally tied to someone for their entire life regardless? It's so naive

[@Josh-k4v]

@@sdiogo82 Diddy is a monster? What does that situation have to do with this??

[@sdiogo82]

@@Josh-k4v you don’t seem to know a lot about Simon. I recommend you look into him and all the lawsuits against him.

[@Josh-k4v]

@@sdiogo82 Ridiculous. How can you even compare the two?

[@sdiogo82]

@@Josh-k4v just different type of monsters. But both monsters. One day the truth will come out, until then, keep believing he is a saint.

[@robgilmour2172]

I’m convinced Liam Payne had a huge amount of internal trauma which often leads to addiction & drug use. He got torn to shreds daily on social media & how anyone can deal with that for a prolonged period must be unbearable. It’s a miracle this doesn’t happen to more young stars

[@idi0tdetectioninprogress]

True. But its a great life skill to keep things real, and its priceless to also have at least one friend who tells it to you straight. He was struggling with his lack of solo success, compared to the others, yet telling everyone he's sold the most singles! He's claiming he's the one the group was built around, and the leader of the band. Pure fantasy, and delusional, someone should have stepped in right there and reality checked him. Venomous social media can be avoided or managed by his team to a degree, you take the rough with the smooth. He was craving his fans adoration, that was missing through the music, so he unwisely turned to social media for connection to his fans. Watch Justin Hawkins video on him. Its funny, harsh, but frightening how he actually had Liam totally sussed out.

[@lindagreens9140]

​@@idi0tdetectioninprogressI appreciate the fact that he kept us engaged with him as Liam's fan I enjoyed the socials connection and to me Liam was successful too.

[@Meme_Mori]

I'm perplexed as to why Katie cant see how ridiculous it is to suggest that an entertainment company has a legal duty of care 14 years after they left the show. Sure, they were kids then, but now they're all grown and have to take responsibility for their choices. If you want to be famous, you should know what you're signing up for.

They don't have a legal duty, but they started this ball rolling. That show eats people alive and anyone with half a brain could clearly see, when he auditioned, Liam was different than the others. He was a lot more vulnerable. Many people have sacrificed their careers and walked away from those shows, in particular, Simon Cowell, because of what they...and he...do to you. Because of how bad they are.

[@RA-wp6th]

@user above - What do you want them to do? Do you want them to pay for counselling for every person that was ever on the show?

[@Meme_Mori]

I would argue that making the decision to go on the show in the first place is what gets the ball rolling. And yes, all reality / talent shows chew people up and spit them out. That's the nature of the beast and the risk you take when you sign a contract to be on a show like that. Liams parents would have signed that contract for him. I understand that emotions may be running high at the moment given the unfortunate events that occurred, but Katies argument is still ridiculous.

[@jillybear151087]

The damage was done to those 5 boys by year 2..

[@adriancoe1]

Wow they cut Kate down terribly..PM loves the sound. OF HIS OWN VOICE

[@miriamkirby7181]

Where are the families in all of this? The true duty of care should come from the family first and foremost. Liam Payne attempted X Factor twice. The thirst was real and he made it. Most bands have a 5 year life span. Everyone in the industry knows that.

[@louiseharraway2599]

where was his family? his mates, they all knew he was taking drugs and drinking. They were in denial, they all knew.

[@lindagreens9140]

Liam was not thirsty ever,he had a talent and did not want to waste and do away with his talent and true to it he made it.

[@JohnSmith-tk7nt]

I dont particularly care for the Talent shows and I never saw much of Howie Mandel's comedy act, but I am a big fan of him because he is always so introspective. He has dealt with mental health issues his whole life and he isnt afraid to talk about them in an attempt to destigmatize the topic. Hes a very smart man and he seems to more importantly be a very GOOD man and I am a fan of him because of that. Very glad to hear his voice on this very tragic topic

[@Sam4G0d]

What a classy person Esther seems to be, and such patience! And very well-made points.

[@ramonaramos2381]

Nobody but the person himself can protect his mental health

[@Paradox370]

the woman in the white shirt is clearly having some sort of a mental meltdown, i don't think it was a good idea to have her on given how volatile she is.

[@awestavalentina4454]

Very hard to watch

[@Caareenkm6726]

Possibly ADHD..

[@haileyg2620]

She embarrassed herself big time

[@denisepaulsenful]

It’s her 6- year old son I feel bad for. He needs protection from her and her neglect as a parent.

[@Bubbaland-g2n]

@@Paradox370 she looks like she's on something, eye balls wide, chewing her mouth, rolling her eyes, chatting rubbish, can't keep still and her facial expressions are out of this world. She should not be given time on any platform she's out and out rude and disrespectful

[@therese9719]

In the nicest most realistic way, Katie is VERY unaware that she is clearly one of the people causing mental health issues

[@LadyGiselleNicollette]

I found this discussion very difficult to follow! For god sake Pier's, can you at least allow your guests to speak without interruption?! Stop railroading!

[@niels9565]

I have no knowledge about Liam and his situation but can just say that all the help in the world will not help a person that do not want to be helped

[@julieeaston7097]

💯

[@BarbaraManning-c6u]

True. You cannot help anyone who cannot help themselves.

[@tonijevicky1]

Please … never have this “ Katie “ on ever again. She is clearly too immature and what’s more she can’t sit still and stop the dramatics. It’s completely distracting.

[@miriamkirby7181]

That lady is bitter about not finding fame and she has no manners.

[@boomds5602]

She doesn’t sound bitter about that at all

[@Gunn27]

Clearly a grifter.

[@lee6023]

​@@boomds5602she definitely sounds bitter about something

[@maggsdaly5123]

I’m a mental health advocate and I agree with Howie . Mental health is soo important x

[@C00K13M0N5TA13]

A show is not your family James. Even if you feel like the government and businesses are, they aren’t.

[@sevastian-5608]

I thought Katie had to go feed her son. He must be starving.

[@samwisegamgee1635]

Calling Beyonce "grounded" might be the worst observation I've seen on this show

[@nicholarasdale79]

100% agree , I truly laughed out loud 👏👏👏👏

[@Kai_Mx]

She is grounded though, have you seen her drunk or heard about her taking drugs. Spiralling out of control in public. I'm not a fan of Beyonce but let's not act like she turned into one of those Disney kids who spiralled out of control like the Demi Lovatos etc

[@Manchestertreblewinners]

Exactly she and Jay Z most likely went to the diddler party

[@siennascott-king4806]

Katies face pulling....so immature

[@iveneverseenahealthyvegan.9885]

Liam had been diagnosed with ADHD in 2023. ADHD has a higher rate of addiction to self medicate, ADHD with Substance Use is a higher rate of suicide.

[@mapsandstuff2923]

How can someone be diagnosed in 2023 AFTER taking drugs for years? Surely drug taking causes all the symptoms of ADHD? If ADHD was the reason he started taking drugs then anyone with an ADHD diagnosis should be banned from taking part in these shows. But that would be discrimination.