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[@wantonnoodlelord1294]

The thing about this collab that I like is they aren’t really good together, unlike the other collabs which are sometimes very specific to get good they are very versatile, except for Yuri. Each of them has a use in assisting the teams they are in Yuri can help humans with vitality by reducing the enemies dmg brought towards them with dmg reduction Bam helps with pve for many different beast stages or boss battles with his relic and passive Zahard is just another powerhouse to the unknown race hall of fame

[@Mrvirtue-VI]

Just to clarify Bam will not help you with demonic beasts because his passive doesn't work there

[@jumpingjoey9983]

They should have made it that when all the Passive buffs are removed the cycle restarts from the beginning

[@crackedblack1410]

Or atleast make King‘s Decision gray 👑

[@TGSAGEU]

I have never seen such a change in views Zahard went from the best unit of the banner to being mid while Yuri went from the worst to being unironically the best

[@logicallylazy]

Yeah. I think albedo is better to run over Gowther or Freyr tho. He’s still way less impactful than we had originally thought tho. And I really like how helpful Yuri is for the humans team.

[@salat8735]

I literally said that from the start and got hated on my take. I literally said he was mid. And yuri good/great. But hey, people I guess only see pure damage as good now eh.

[@mmmJamSandwich]

all netmarble needs to do is add a loop to his passive so it resets if the crown buffs is removed and he'll be fine

[@Kurokamixi]

yeah or the 3rd buff is a grey one

[@nova3744]

THIIISS, it will also help him to be usable in pve...

[@razor1x855]

Let’s be honest he needs a buff 1. Make his buffs grey 2.give his holy relic the ability to rank up when his buff goes away

[@Terminator1784.]

Hear me out: Zahard, DK, albedo and nanashi in the back. DK to seal the commandment, albedo to stall and to give 30% attack related stats. I mean DK doesnt get much out of his passive but his OP-debuff and rankup are still very useful

[@ibagaming9429]

Bruh you are unironically cooking something here. DK will definitely be useless for dmg , but zahard only lose 7% basic Stat. Definitely look to be a fun team to try out.

[@shadeteen4688]

keep bro in the kitchen

[@yikes3049]

He won’t do any damage, did you guys not watch the video you are commenting on??

[@Terminator1784.]

@@yikes3049 did you watch the video or the first one? He only does no damage cause he either dies or his buffs get removed. You saw in the first video that he can wipe. His buffs arent getting removed with dk and you get a tank in form of albedo to stall for a level 2 or possible 3. Like tf are you on? This Team isnt supposed to be a meta defining team but just a fun little team to have fun with

[@the_real_natsu9901]

i was actually thinking the same thing lmao. DK for the debuffs can be enough and he seals command. albedo can either protect zahard with taunt or stall with counter AND she gets the 30% dmr if going first. and you are still running 3 unknown

[@alejandronunez5110]

Netmarble really loves unknown,even when you think them dead they rise again.

[@ryugakishutsu8535]

Absolutly

[@Manizalest0v4r]

Ofc, unknown are mostly non binary and into that woke shi... So makes sense

[@POTATOLOVERRRR]

No he sucks

[@POTATOLOVERRRR]

​@camilocardenasmendoza9659 bro what non of the unknown char consider themselves they/them lol

[@crackedblack1410]

You mean demons?

[@PotatoVideosHD]

We f2p players want to see him in demonic beasts and general pve content, also the banner is actually decent for f2p players as we don't sweat with meta teams in PvP against whales, i recommend to do 1 rotation for f2p on this banner for 2 good PvE content characters, if you are p2w you will most likely summon anyway so let's not talk about that.. 😅

[@divinity1495]

Goddesses is a good alternative for going 2nd as well Also stop using your f2p status to play victim the majority of players even in Upper level of pvp are f2p but have been playing for a long time

[@inugami_guren]

@@divinity1495 i fail to see how he's playing victim what i got from potato was that he wants to see data being used in various pve activities like demonic beasts

[@PotatoVideosHD]

@@divinity1495 what do you mean, i just said that as f2p i don't really care about Zahard being bad in PvP as i really don't care about being top 1% in PvP. Nagato said that it might be a "skip banner", and that's weird because there are still 2 good f2p characters, maybe he thinks everyone is trying to hit top 1% in PvP and others don't exist.

[@GG-zn6tc]

@@PotatoVideosHD hes not gonna be good in snake or dk and the other pve content is really easy so it doesnt really matter tbh

[@kingzroyalzz7059]

@@divinity1495he’s not playing victim he’s saying the truth

[@ibagaming9429]

I understand where you are coming from, but the buff being removable was probably more of a design choice. Also you are looking at him way too much in a vacuum he ain't the only character on the team, gowther definitely not the way. I don't have him yet, but I assume having hel as a extra source of dps plus Aoe check will help him a lot.

[@yikes3049]

He doesn’t do much damage without high rank cards, and the meta teams have already been beating unknowns so adding them back into your team wouldnt help you.

[@ibagaming9429]

@@yikes3049 I use unknown so I know they are good even before zahard, actual unknown players know that. Hel Albedo tyr is like one of the best counter to demons, and can put a good fight against sins with no Diane.

[@yikes3049]

@@ibagaming9429 Albedo is basically useless in PVP at high ranks, so I would say to run Hel, Tyr, and Zahard, but his damage without high rank cards is not very good unfortunately and he will still get his buffs removed.

[@yikes3049]

@@ibagaming9429 Also unknown is not good against demons it is just good against dumb players. If you aoe with DK, then double single target albedo with estarossa, you wont lost much HP from Hel, then next turn you instantly remove taunt with Meli AOE and you by this point have 40% basic stats from estarossa plus meli rank up and attack boost, so whoever you single target with him will get hit for like a million, or if you have another AOE you will wipe.

[@ibagaming9429]

@@yikes3049 yeah Albedo definitely took a big hit because of Meli, reason why kinda excited for Zahard. About the buffs it will matter mostly against sins and humans, so against demons unknowns and goddess zahard gonna feel pretty fine. In case of sins I was already doing good against sins mostly using hel and tyr, so worst case scenario he can help me survive turn one with 30 dmg red and prevent enemy Meli from using red tarmiel or Sariel link.

[@JasonGianfranchi]

They could make two things to improve him. Make the buff grey or make it infinite. Like “when even the last buff is removed reapply them in the same order” and he will at least be usable.

[@chronicmaster2278]

honestly i feel like the estarossa counter is good because zahard is a boss level unit that wont come around for another year or 2 and anyone that has him already wins the match which would just discourage new players that just started from playing and its not like everyone has festatrossa anyway. so for the older players they have a oneshot unit and newer players have the chance to get a counter to it in the future. dont know if this made sense

[@Password20-ro6ut]

The problem with that kind of thinking is that whenever they release a unit like meli,all thought goes out the window.Also dealing with both demon kings is such a pain in the a**.....

[@sadaomaou1426]

No

[@chronicmaster2278]

@@Password20-ro6ut I am talking about a Collab character that only has a chance to rerun once a year not mely a main 7ds character that has about 4-6 chances to rerun a year. i shouldn't have used the word good counter but instead put okay counter. Now what they should do with zahard is make it so that if his buff is stripped that he re-applies the first buff after 2-3 turns of both being removed. I feel like this would make him excel without being too broken to the point where if you don't have him you are screwed but also not dog water if he is broken down once

[@Password20-ro6ut]

@@chronicmaster2278 I think the easiest thing they can do with him is make the last one grey so atleast for some time he's a functional character!!!! Your idea is better tho!!!

[@emilschneider467]

There might be a way to win with him, and that's by going first. You rank up his single target then sacrifices his damage reduction buff to nuke meli with his second buff, which will allow you to use the aoe turn two to finish the job.

[@leblanckun7607]

Its easy to counter him with human team going frist. Especially using lr escanor with green levi to. If hes in unknown team not using albedo but using tyr as a taunt unit. Frist use levi aoe card so levi will remove the taunt from tyr and 30% dmg reduction buff from data zahard, then zahard will recieve the undying buff then remove the buff again with escanor debuff card and follow up with escanor atk card or levi atk card to kill him. Note : even if zahard team using dodge food levi still remove any buff from the enemy.

[@junior616]

You right when you said he's like Assualt Meli, easily countered

[@izanagi1541]

Am I crazy for thinking this character would be a lot more interesting if he actively cycled through his buffs in a loop instead of ending on a 5 turn AoE buff? While I understand most matches don't realistically last past turn 3-4 most of the time I feel like he goes from; being support to doing fantastic single target damage to doing great AoE damage (with a lvl 3 card) and that's the whole character. I really can't say I enjoy any character that loses power from one of their cards since they just become dead cards that take up space the next turn.

[@Gellato0]

Devs should've change the King Buff into Grey Buff or add something like "If King buff removed by commandment or enemies remove buff passive, gain Proof of Stability" with this change he would've been a 10/10 and he would've been a great counter to sins and human

[@Kurokamixi]

yeah i might reconsider if i want to 6/6 him due to his flaws

[@lonelystoner8281]

Same was going to at first but think I’ll just get a single copy of him

[@beardedcat9744]

Hel, Zahard, Albedo, Nanashi.

[@yikes3049]

Your buffs still get removed and you won’t have high rank cards so he won’t get the damage bonus. At that point you’re better off running the current meta unknown team instead.

[@mazaseggso]

Idk if this going to work, but if you pair data with ghislaine she will mark meliodas because of the high cc and you could maybe kill meli in that turn with her and then the second turn you could annihilate everything with data (I haven't played the game in a while but when the collab drop I will a try data, ghislaine and Roxy team and see if it works)

[@songohan5942]

day 1 reading dev notes Nagato: OMFG SO OP, I LoVe So much! HE IS THE MAIN CHARACTER!!! IM IN LOVE WITH HIM Todays Nagato: yea don’t summon for him he is extrem useless and will never be good

[@yisucraist]

Yes of course, make him not being affected by his big counter. Why? Cuz I spent thousands of gems to 6/6 and it's useless if estarossa exists. It seems you want him to be unstoppable, thank god they made this character with some flaws because just by his kit he's too powerful

[@NimaHox]

Try an ult rush team with him with blue fraudrin since he goes immortal on turn 2 His ult is a nuke as well

[@caphius6095]

His last buff should be grey, keep it lasting like 5 turns, but make it grey. So you still have time to do SOMETHING.

[@HeartzTh1]

Nah man, Why would they make his passive buff blue? Every other current units passive buffs, are always grey, purely cause if they’re removed the units trash. Such a dumb decision. Like if Melis buff was removed when he attacked, he literally wouldn’t be half as good as he is purely cause he wouldn’t have the 50% attack related stat buff ever and wouldn’t have enough balls when he attacked to even get the creation buff. So dumb man

[@artillerbee1559]

I know what you mean but I think you misspoke ^^’

[@SK23.]

Tbh meli would still be pretty good lol just maybe not against goddesses cause theyre just so tanky

[@soumy6151]

Cuz if they made it grey, he can literally 1 shot any team with silver aoe. Dont forget Tyr day 1.

[@HeartzTh1]

@@soumy6151 that’s literally what Meliodas does every single second turn. Bruh

[@artillerbee1559]

@@soumy6151 I think it should be grey still if anything melis should be blue

[@CalKiruya]

i kinda weirded out by most players call him Data. He is called Zahard and he's the data version of the original Zahard that is why his name is Zahard (Data) not Data Zahard xD

[@peterkuever4069]

They know its not his name. It just sounds cool to say all of them thats why they do

[@jekmr84]

I'm pulling just cuz it is a good collab. I wish they would do demon slayer as collab

[@sadaomaou1426]

That would never happen

[@jekmr84]

@@sadaomaou1426 why is that?

[@sadaomaou1426]

@@jekmr84 because it's a shounen jump property sds isn't shounen jump so grand cross will never Collab with any shounen jump manga/anime. Ever.

[@beardedcat9744]

All those nerds in the live stream saying rip Meli new Meli sucks now etc. were hella coping. 😂😂😂

[@divinity1495]

Word Half of them were coping for the fact they don't even have meli

[@Erzebuth]

Thanks for the AGL Ginyu music, now it's dope

[@WinterMint_]

A good option is to put it on a team with Hela, you punish AOE, you have a very tanky dps and the dark attribute passive.

[@nikonaumenko7041]

Literally every new unit released since DK: "I need a buff to be even remotely usable"...

[@yikes3049]

Um, no. Hel, albedo, Liz, Meli. What are you on about?

[@GG-zn6tc]

you my friend are beyond dumb, i dont think there is even 1 team that is meta that is reliant on buffs

[@Spvrky_05]

@@yikes3049while i disagree with the original comment, to be fair, we did get a LOT of units that clearly needed a buff in the last year

[@yikes3049]

@@Spvrky_05 only AOT units and maybe 1 or 2 more, most other units at least had a purpose outside of PVP or their moment to shine. netmarble doesn't like to release bad units cause then they don't make money.

[@ryudarkness4564]

​@@yikes3049 btw talking about AoT, even levi counters zahard 😅

[@loosemoose2135]

Try use him in a team with demon king to counter the commandment

[@twistlmt1168]

Nagato what I realized is wouldnt the supposed counter make zahard better???!?? If u attack at the immortality stage with a rank 3 aoe against a meli with estarossa link It’ll automatically take u to kings resolve and just full wipe their team faster

[@danielvykysaly1708]

Nag:"He (Zahard) would've died if this wasn't a bot..." Bro you had the immortality buff on him

[@Sousa22ko]

they just need to change his buff to a grey buff ... is weird because Reinhard buffs are grey and they are indefinitely applied through the run

[@eneldereso8690]

Im kinda sad that the characters doesnt look that broken because i have read the manhwa and, damn, i manwha, baam, jahad and yuri can be a powerhouse, specially baam if they would have chose the baam whow fight agaiant data jahad

[@netronet7566]

unironically, Yuri is probably the best one on this banner😂

[@TWSkylander]

"The worst one" he thought Lmao

[@jjgrueso7422]

​@@TWSkylander he completely hyped up this character and forgot to give the doubt of well maybe wait to try first in game vs just what he provides on paper. cuz this happens 😂

[@delarie1]

so would this effect happen if you use rimru? because he romves buffs per turn right?

[@darkhalo8833]

Not really because rimuru removes it after the turn

[@delarie1]

@@darkhalo8833 yea fair point

[@melonwalker6705]

He really bring back assault meli memory

[@christopherbrodie2575]

Try Halloween merlin , red gowther seal there aoe skill then next turn go for the wipe, or go red gowther demon king and zahard with nanashi haha cancel commandments

[@lupus_aeterna7793]

What the hell happened in two days? "He has no inherent flaws." to "terrible unit". This was the fastest flip of an opinion.

[@Kurokamixi]

its really sad to see that he is that bad a loop or at least his 3 rd buff being grey would make him usable but as far as ik netmarble they wont change it, so 1/6 all 3 and thats it

[@finnianrose9085]

Listen, I know this sounds silly, but if you REALLY want to stop Estarossa commandment, you COULD run this guy with DK. Obviously they don't synergize, but hey, maybe this dude could cook.

[@sumang5197]

I was right to skip. 7ds team literally makes him useless.

[@wyshenyuha]

It's easy to fix this if they turn his last buff grey, but I don't think netmarble will buff any of them

[@Kento.-.]

of course they won’t, it was a skip collab from the begging so

[@Sam-cp9ff]

Why didn't you used albedo at all ? With her you'd have guaranteed taunt turn 1 so escanor couldn't attack you and with her passive since she will most likely get her stance removed by juri or demon king meli , she could just give you the attack related stat buff before the start of your turn and this buff will get removed before Data buff by estarossa commandement. And nag you forgot that he is immortal turn 2 unless they removed his buff

[@Erik_Sjostrom]

Play him with demon King so no estarossa commandment. And someone else that is unkhown

[@Erik_Sjostrom]

Yes I think I mispelled unkhown you don’t have to point it out

[@ryudarkness4564]

​@@Erik_Sjostromyou can change your comment btw if it bugs you 😅 Its spelled unknown btw

[@ocdducky3039]

I bet he would be fixed if the buffs cycle so there is always a buff

[@lehang5840]

Nag is still mistaken when looking at Data Zahard, he needs more time to get used to the buff change cause he is still scared of buff removal.

[@Munki_19]

playing for almost 2 weeks now Do you guys recommend to pull for upcoming collab and who should i target to get? Im fairly new but finished the main story up to chapter 29 because of DK meli and cheese strats.

[@IDemonDreamI]

How do you take a shower if you don’t got water in your house then I’m guessing public ones or something? This is a question I’m genuinely curious about

[@alpenwolfer]

Just use him with demon king to block commandment. Big brain

[@J3llyf1shG1rl]

i've been thinking about running zahard with albedo and tyr, nanashi in the back, but from THIS now i'm unsure

[@ahmad544476]

His problem is that the passive doesn’t recycle ♻️ i hope the fix it

[@lonelystoner8281]

I’ll pull blonde dude once then save the rest idc about the other units, I would like his buff to be grey but that probably be too op

[@Kurokamixi]

not really too op they could also make his passive a loop

[@lonelystoner8281]

@@Kurokamixiyea that’s a way better idea

[@kaos612]

everyone running him with tyr.. i feel like he meant to replace tyr as the dps of the unknown team.. so zahard/albedo/xx/nanashi prob a better unknown team imo.. tho yes buff removal > him lol like tyr has age he's just better as a 6/6 link now, just like roxy for humans

[@marviglenn8610]

Should’ve been a gray buff since after those 3 buffs, he gets nothing.

[@hadoopbro8103]

6:51 14:57 You are immortal what are you talking about? please read his passive properly 17:15 "Not very tanky" I guess 30% dmg reduction (turn 1), Immortality (turn 2), Immortality for 1 turn after ULT isn't enough...

[@ShuRA-007]

a great words to end the video

[@chad_dante]

I don’t think this guy’s Crown buff was supposed to be a normal blue buff 😬

[@Mrvirtue-VI]

I feel like his buffs should be grey or the King buff should reapply every time its removed

[@AkeboHinode]

the thing i'm wondering : is he interesting in pve ? maybe there might be an interest in that

[@PinaColada.]

Should I spend my gems on demon king meli as long as I can or save them up for the collab?

[@danielcazador7098]

What about albedo instead of Tyr?

[@nano_rem]

Melis atk cancel stance

[@danielcazador7098]

@@nano_rem still blocks an attack

[@muhrizzareefmohammadmasri6388]

Why not just make the first 2 blue buff be a grey buff? They last for only 1 turn anyways… at least if the first 2 are grey buff he would be really good

[@steven_3824]

its so funny that the commandment thing from god meli was so useless and had no reason to be there so nobody used it but a month later it makes the newest character unusable.

[@Silvanohnerizz]

Holy shit this makes me aggressive asf

[@Ashisf2p]

idk wouldn't it be better to use HP DF on him instead of atk

[@kipihamazaki9207]

His 3rd buff should have been a grey buff

[@ahmad544476]

Do full damage reduction with albedo and ainz

[@Jnickyd]

they gotta make his passive loop having it just vanish is pretty bad design

[@ol0lOvOl0lo]

I mean even in this video you have like a 60-70% winrate, where you are saying that he is bad, while he is one shoting heroes and wiping enemy team in the background. Yeah, i understand, that you thought, that he is gonna be god tier, while he turned out to be just strong. He is not weak and he is definitely worth summoning for, and i would be really mad if you place him below Yuri in your ranking, cause she is a bad character that turned out to be better than everybody thought, and he is insane character who turned out to be weaker. Moreover, when reading his passive you said that you don't want a character, that is unstoppable, and he definitely is one, he is not absurdly strong, there are just heroes that counter him. For me it's just unfair, that you call him garbage and unplayble, he is not

[@cjterrell2945]

Aniz, Hell, and dataaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[@YT_TheOne]

Love this unit Human have 2 buff remove char xD

[@Sarpitas72]

nag bro u dont stop saiying in the video that zahard is going to die because he is not very tanky, bro in the second turn he cannot die xD and why dont use like albedo so when the taunt gets removed he gain another buff to be able to do 2 atacks could be good

[@lazarith4644]

Wouldn't green shin be good with him? Due to his passive granting rank up when attacking 3 times

[@Marowakie]

Except shin is an absolutely garbage unit 😂 There’s a reason why gowther is literally used everywhere when u need rank ups, not shin

[@Kuinsy]

Yeah also Shin is a human so he'd be easier to kill compared to gowther, also his attacks need to actually do dmg to proc the passive......but he'd probably be dead before he procs a rank up 😂

[@user-mu1lu5ym1e]

Is the banner a skip?

[@rie6181]

Just make her passive reset then it will be fine. like the old to escanor

[@Taco_4828]

they shoulda made it the buffs like Reinhards passive. I feel like Passive buffs, as in ones where the passive revolves around those buffs, should be grey bc then the unit becomes useless once its removed.

[@chronodono215]

"Devs didn't test him", sure, bro wants zahard to have grey immortality, grey dmg reduction & grey king, you were not cooking when you said that

[@myhero641]

New gowther fes incoming

[@jalenroldan8515]

So should I summon here or keep summoning on Meli

[@adrienee3439]

But how is he in pve? Do you play this game for pve or?

[@diazputra9036]

Why tyr and not albedo if he can wipe with level 3?

[@daniyaljazib3804]

Which character should i pick at 600 f i dont get anyone before that point

[@kass5892]

Yuri

[@loopz.mp4]

all they had to do was make it grey buffs lol

[@ViNncentSmith]

its really pity of you nag to keep going back and forth how zahard "sucks" cuz of estrosa commadment on meliodas. thats like saying albedo sucks cuz if u fight a team with infection its "Jover bruh" or saying ult rushing sucks cuz if you fight someone with dissolve its "Jover bruh".......reallly pity

[@otameganegame]

I don't know if this work but if you goinf first, can u kill meli in first turn? (Using his single target and aoe in first turn)

[@darkhalo8833]

Yh if you have a rank up and they somehow don't have evasion food

[@otameganegame]

@@darkhalo8833 i mean three attack or 2 rank 2 card is not enough? I mean his single target is quite good bcz the first attack only remove dmg reduce one, also the second atk, remove the second buff and give proof of king which we see dealt around 50% of meli health (also bcz testarossa thingy meli not have tarmiel link) For the dodge food yeah, i forgot about that somehow, for dodge food if he can't oneshot meli with 2 rank 1card, yeah kinda helpless sadge

[@tonyleite851]

just have a buffer on the team to deal with it 🤷‍♂

[@Zaidgadda]

just make his buff grey

[@Viagra_Falls69]

just make his 3rd buff a grey buff

[@Void_Viper69]

Have to balance him Bud wants a glass cannon unit without flaws 😅

[@Kuinsy]

Imagine if they made his buff grey then ppl would be raging that a collab character that can go 2nd was out performing DKMeli on day 1 🤣

[@dreamrbx8281]

Assault Meli 2.0

[@speedwagon8033]

Wait since The One Is Za One does that mean that he Is The hard

[@TrisTami17]

Just use with dk

[@ich5572]

Cant U Run him with demon King ?

[@assizlam9937]

u forgot about rimuru what will do to him btw

[@tomaslopez8301]

Nag why don’t you move to the USA?

[@raymawn1453]

godly vid

[@rednuhT]

So why are you not using an unknown team? For example Abedo for defense, Hel for damage/debuff with Jyu?

[@meoskpasn1669]

frieren collab or dungeon meshi would be 🔥