I've never heard this on Ham Radio bands | Horror on 3Y0J Bouvet Dxpedition frequency

I muted the callsigns of those who did not follow the SPLIT rule. Maybe they just didn't understand the situation. But the main thing - let's not swear on the air. Amateur radio is the oldest and friendliest social network in the world. The Bouvet DX expedition has just begun.
I ask all MEN, please don't do this on the frequency.
Remember what DX Code of Conduct says.
Please listen first!
73 and 88!
Raisa
#r1big
#oh7bg

[@norrinradd8952]

"please listen, and listen, and listen again" Great advice from YL Raisa. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Hopefully some people will listen to you and learn something. If they continue to do this then we know they did not listen to Raisa :( :( Thank you for being the BEST Amateur Radio Ambassador to the World!

[@YLRaisa]

😂😂😂 I hope they will read the code of conduct and will be just polite to each other.

[@ARDFsport]

it was a very big Pileup. Maybe few % of all hams were not polite. And 97% were calm. So, just pay attention to the proportions ;-) Ham Radio is a very polite "social media" unlike all others !

[@Scout75PortableRadio]

Thanks for the polite reminder for us all to be polite on the amateur bands, Raisa. Nicely stated. It's very disappointing to see so many bad operators. I get the excitement and wanting to make the rare contact, but there needs to be some civility. Please follow the DX Code of Conduct. It makes it better for all.

[@YLRaisa]

Yes, many of us are now very excited and determined to contact Bouvet, but this does not mean that they need to swear on the band. You are right. 🤫

[@fungo6631]

Eh, the problem is that the folks over at 7055 KHz LSB don't care about that.

[@sleyeborgrobot6843]

anarchy

[@Macjohn1419]

Years ago when I was much younger and well before the internet, the lower ham bands were a battlefield. Many big stations running kilowatts would park on a frequency claiming it belongs to them. They would chase you off. You could not find a few kilohertz of open space to operate. You could monitor a frequency for hours or days thinking it’s clear. As soon as you transmit a CQ, a big gun station would blast a strong signal to you and tell you the frequency is in use. If you try to ignore them, then one of his buddies will start a QSO to step all over your signal until you got off the air. Nothing has changed.

[@sparky42]

In my 55 years as an Amateur radio operator , I have never heard a fight on CW ....

[@aa5df]

There is rarely a good reason to read the comments, but this one was well worth it! Thanks for the laugh... And the truth :)

[@Isochest]

I suppose it's because emotions and egos are not exhibited so easily. Just a brief QRL. Also misunderstandings can occur as we all speak different languages. These matter less on CW

[@la7dfa]

Pffft, you have not listened much to major top ten expeditions then? In Europe there are tremendous DQRM and trolls on CW and SSB. I just QRX 5 minutes when it gets too bad, and usually they stop, unless the policemen are not feeding the trolls even more reasons to continue. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKLYp6msqa52f7s

[@terrymefford697]

80 meters a real joy after midnight in NA it is 11m crap.

[@RFBurns420]

​@@terrymefford697yep I agree with you 100% I have been a ham for 30 years and I do not operate 75/80 meters. I operate 40 through 6. 75 and 80 m is a LIDS band maybe not everyone who gets on 75 or 80 is a lid but if you listen to that after dark is 100 million times worse than anything you'll ever hear in 11 m. Not to mention these guys are running illegal power levels they're not running legal limit try like 3 to 5 kw. So with behavior like saying that they own the frequency running illegal amounts of power using profane and obscene language and just being overall assholes 75 m is the new 11 m. And if I offended anyone I really don't give a shit you know it's the truth that's why you're mad

[@chrishillier647]

this is the type of thing that is turning me off from HAM radio, I barely turn my radio on anymore because people are just acting like children.

[@YLRaisa]

I don't like it too

[@paul-c7541]

I use CW & QRP, you find more grown up radio amateurs that way.

[@speedbuggy16v]

I feel the same, but I just listen, I have yet to get my ticket. I do have to say that there are a lot of operators out there that seem to be more than willing to encourage the hobby to die with them than there are that are trying to recruit new blood. It really is a shame.

[@DXCommanderHQ]

Chris.. this is not a regular thing, don't worry - just these extreme DXpeditions..

[@grs6262]

Just children bringing their internet manners to amateur radio.. dont quit.. consider the source.. and continue..

[@erpece]

Thank you for raising this issue, Raisa. I heard it myself and couldn't believe what was going on... Thanks to the crew of the Bouvet DXpedition and keep up the good work!

[@YLRaisa]

It was awful...

[@raydavidsonm0ray.777]

Hi Raisa, Well Said. I agree with you whole heartedly dear Raisa. Kindest Regards, Ray, M0RAY, South East England.

[@elliotspencer2648]

I've been into cb radio since 1979,ham radio since 1984, got my ham licence in 1986. But in 2023 I am using cb radio more. Sad times for ham radio.

[@nickmajor2547]

Thank you Raisa for Posting. I really love my hobby. I’ve made so many friends all over the world who are good, kind and decent. But! As in this awful world we now live in, it only takes a few bad people to effect the many good ones. After hearing this disgusting behaviour over the past few days, I seriously considered just selling my Station and giving up. But why should I? If I do then those bad people have won and I lose out on something I truly enjoy.. So I’m staying here to spread the friendship and compassion which is the true blessing of Amateur Radio. No matter what the politicians and power crazy freaks in this world try to manipulate for their own gain, Radio Amateurs will always be the hand of friendship over borders, countries and cultures that no one can destroy! 73 & Thank you Nick G0HFL

[@alexanderkalender765]

I agree 100% !! TNX for your comment.

[@ARDFsport]

it was a very big Pileup. Maybe 3% of all hams were not polite. And 97% were calm. So, no reason to give up !

[@theElderberryFarmer]

Very well said indeed! Thank you for deciding to keep working to improve amateur radio! 73, KO4AZY

[@bhenry5091]

Thanks for this reminder, Raisa, about the split frequency and basic ham behaviour! Some forget, in their excitement, that the first rule of ham radio operation, is LISTEN !

[@simontemplar0468]

Very sad to see this happening on our bands. Thank you sis for posting this video. Yes people.... listen and respect others. **Hugs from your bro**

[@YLRaisa]

Patrick, thanks!

[@digitalmediafan]

A little like qso's taking place just 2khz away or sometimes directly on the SSTV calling frequency if there's an sstv net on at the time of which there are many every day here.. listen first

[@YLRaisa]

Dave today I have sent QSL card to you :)

[@patrickbuick5459]

Or the IARU beacon frequencies, especially on 20m.

[@digitalmediafan]

@@YLRaisa Спасибо. моя первая первая qsl карточка, хотя у моего покойного отца было много тысяч!

[@Rob2]

The nice thing about SDR receivers (with waterfall) is that you can so easily see what is going on. Even better on QO-100 where everyone is about the same strength and everyone can hear everyone. Now of course it still requires the proper operating practice to make use of that.

[@audioinmedia5649]

Dear Raissa, thank you very much for your videos. I like your videos because you also convey a soulful and sympathetic Ham-Radio culture that some have unfortunately lost. One can learn a lot from you. Best regards from Munich! vy 73! de DK1RL Stefan (Steve)

[@YLRaisa]

Stefan, thanks a lot for your kind words!

[@DanKuches]

Thank you for bringing this up on your channel. Please, fellow operators, listen and respect the code of conduct.

[@carlosroig5315]

Raisa, there are many words in Russian as well as in other languages to describe what is happening with Bouvet in the pileups. In America we use the word " lid " or " lids " to describe poor operators. Thank you for posting and expressing your disapproval with this type of conduct. Take care!

[@YLRaisa]

why this word LID? could you explain please? 73! Raisa

[@pierrebordeleau5188]

@@YLRaisa lid is a poor amateur radio operator..one who grossly does not follow the rules

[@EamonnG76]

@@YLRaisa Licenced IDiot

[@chrisloh745]

@@pierrebordeleau5188 it was also used back in the day to describe people operating without a license wasnt it?

[@spaceflight1019]

​@@chrisloh745 "Lid" is the label for a poor operator. "Pirate" is a common description of an unlicensed station.

[@Johnyrocket70]

I heard two different pile ups on the same frequency several times last weekend. There was 3 contests going on the same weekend. The pile ups couldn't hear each other. I was in the middle and heard them both a few times. A Canadian station was working a pileup and a Puerto Rican station was working a pileup. It was crazy and nobody complained. They weren't interfering with each other.

[@robertgarland9342]

Well said Raisa. There are times like this when I'm convinced that the code of conduct doesn't exist in many shacks. My shack is only a small 100w max station and so many times have I tried to reach a DX pedition station only to find others coming over the top of them who are not interested in the DX ped station. You can start to understand why so many are getting away from SSB Phone and going to digital modes when this sort of thing is going on.

[@reallybadaim118]

Thanks for taking the time to speak about this.

[@YLRaisa]

Maybe it will be useful for someone 🤗

[@vtxcs]

Raisa, this is the most important advice, listen, 3 times! Plus, I think with a new ham one of the first things to teach them is what split means in the simplest of terms. I have been a ham for almost 40 years and I learned what split was way back in the beginning and the purpose of it. It makes it so much easier for the DX stations to manage the sea of voices! Everyone wants to have their voice heard but it is the most important to listen on the frequency before one speaks. All we can do is keep preaching to be great ambassadors of our wonderful hobby. You are an inspiration to our great life long hobby. 73, Daniel AB5VJ from Pennsylvania on the mountain top! ;-)

[@YLRaisa]

Hi Daniel, many TNX for your kind words, I will try my best! 73! Raisa

[@RvtvvideoproduktiesNl]

I had a qso with Japan, and one EA station constantly calling over our signal without listening. I could not hear my signal report while the station from Japan was very strong. I try to make contacts barefoot with experimental antennas but it is very hard with people transmitting their call 2,3 or 4 in one. Keep up the good work and 73 pd5rv

[@Aleziss]

I have not been able to make contact with 3Y0J in any mode but a friend not to far from where I am made contact in CW and he told me it was a total mess, om insulting each others, not respecting split and even other stations gave signal report to faulty station so they could move away... that's sad to see the lack of respect and so many station not listening to calling instructions...

[@YLRaisa]

Yes, this behavior was also something new and not pleasant for me. Maybe this can be explained by the scale and significance of the DXpedition to Bouvet 🤔

[@leman13]

I'm trying to listen to 3Y0J since they are active and can't listen to them due to the strong QRM on their main frequency, DXPeditions usualy works in split mode 5 to 10 up to be readable for anyone. To many stations are trying to do simplex contacts and then ruined the opportunity for other to make the contact... You right Raisa, Listen first to transmit and read and follow the traffic rules as available on the expedition website prior to try to work them... 73 from F5GEB

[@bassmanjr100]

I would much rather talk to someone who wants to ragchew instead of spending time fighting over getting through on a contest. However, I am new to the hobby, so maybe I am missing something. The nice thing about radio (or KZbin or television) is that if it upsets you, then it is easy to change what you are listening to or turn it off and walk away. Problem solved. 😀 I enjoy your videos. I'd love to see more about your shack setup, attennas and gear. Thanks so much for sharing.

[@Dreamlgider]

Good day om, this station, 3Y0J is what we call "A Rare one" it is nr 2 on the DXCC most wanted, North Korea being nr 1. out of around 350 total So everyone wants to get a contact :) See you on the bands. OY1R

[@YLRaisa]

@@Dreamlgider Regin, thanks a lot for the good explanation

[@YLRaisa]

thanks my friend. As Regin say there is the best AWARD in a Ham Radio World - it is DXCC. Google it. :)

[@VirtualLunacy]

been in and out of the hobby for over 30 years and have zero interest in the fake 59 contests or stepping over people for 'rare dx'. people turn into such unrelenting a******* in pursuit of a contact.

[@bassmanjr100]

@@VirtualLunacy I got into ham radio because I like the science side of it. This fighting over and through pile ups just doesn’t seem fun to me. If I’m going to go that hard after something I’ll work the floor on Wall Street and pocket a lot of money for it. The last thing I want to do in my limited free time is to be stressed. I get plenty of that already. Everyone has their own interests, so do what you like! I joined a local club and 9 folks out of 10 in the hobby are very friendly, helpful people. There is always that one in any group. 😂

[@TomKristiansen]

wow, i am Speechless, i am agree code of conduct must be followd. It is not difficult to behave.

[@davidshannon5877]

As the saying goes "Two ears, one mouth. Use in that ratio".

[@YLRaisa]

👍👍👍

Thanks for building this video. I would hope it change with time. But it was already like that 20 years ago. That's why I left radio several time. But in the end, HAM behavior is the same as in our society. I came back thanks to FT8 mode where DQRM is much harder toi be efficient. 73's

[@YLRaisa]

It is nice that you came back! Because like you said: they are only few, only a part of a great hobby! 73! Raisa

[@n4pls]

As one of my many Elmer's taught me, listen, listen, and lesten some more before you make a call, this gives you the opportunity to learn how the other station is operating and the ebb and flow.

[@YLRaisa]

It is a pity that not everyone has such good elmer's as you have.🤩

[@n4pls]

These days, in the good ole US of A, a new ham is lucky if they can even fimd a person to elmer them, it's sad but our society has become very selfish and many are rude and dismissive of new hams, really makes me sad😞

[@off-trailseeking3965]

Congrats to all who keep Ham Radio dignified and cordial. I remember fondly when CB radio had some integrity.....NO one sweared. Now look what has happened to CB radio channels. You cant even monitor them in the car with children. Is Ham Radio going in that direction??

[@matthewweaver1123]

There are chunks of the bands you definitely would want to avoid if wanting to demonstrate the professional side of ham radio. 7200 comes to mind. The first time I listened to the clowns on 7200 I thought it was going to be the norm for all of HF, but luckily it's not.

[@noimnotarobotcanubeleiveit7024]

I often hear ops on 27555 acting for professional than the doghouse on 80m

[@briankuzawa1683]

Raisa, my son, N5CSK, and I have this same problem at times with a simple POTA activation. Some hams are sorely lacking in common courtesy. Thanks for posting. 73 de AA6X

[@teste1177]

73 from Brasil 🇧🇷👍😎 TMJ

[@youtubeaccount931]

Wow..... Well good luck getting Bouvet anyhow! I'm in California and can only operate on 10 meters, but I'm still going to try. Maybe I'll have luck on FT8. Good luck!

[@aarontooth]

New ham here. I am in an urban area and have a really high noise floor, and I'm worried about this being me just because I'm too deaf to tell if a frequency is in use. Any advice?

[@YLRaisa]

Then you need to listen to what is happening on the frequency longer. If she is busy and you do not listen to the one who gives CQ, then you will hear those who answer him. Accordingly, if you are nobody for a long time, then feel free to take the frequency. Hope to meet a new ham on the air 😉

[@roberthorseman7432]

This is the reason why I've never taken a ham exam just listening is enough.

[@GroundControl204]

The best looking radio operator I’ve ever seen. 73👋🏻

[@g4obb]

You Ain't seen me!!!!

[@andybonneau9209]

It's called a pileup. Part of the problem is that not all stations can hear one another and think the frequency is clear.

[@YLRaisa]

Yes, it can be, but it's extremely rare.

[@koltinn]

@@YLRaisa I am in the radio club which one of the people who were running the DXexpedition was in, studying for a license. One of them said that the italians were "almost rabid." Running higher power than needed (800w+) smurfing people running normal power.

[@HamDX2LVG]

It gets so frustrating hearing people repeating their call over and over again and it is just so rude and is bully tactics. In UK we have a saying "Every dog has it's day" meaning that if we are patient enough then our time will come. Everybody needs to respect each other and listen and give call when an opportunity arises then listen for station to come back. Well said Raisa, best 73 to you.

[@richysradioroom]

Thanks for posting this. This ALWAYS happens during a big DXpidition. The last time was Heard island. The two biggest problems are well meaning people who dont know what they are doing and second.. licensed hams who have personality disorders and just want to make people angry for there amusement. Never transmit on the same frequency that you hear the dxpidition calling. They always work SPLIT frequencies. Look in your manual and see how to work split. The people who are jamming HAVE NO shame. You cannot make them ashamed of what they are doing. If you try to call them out on the air..you are just making things worse.

[@Eugen963]

We need CW test back for ham radio license(even only 5WPM) , it's too easy to become a ham today

[@YLRaisa]

In this case I would not be able to be a ham because I have not learned CW yet

[@Eugen963]

@@YLRaisa 5WPM is not hard but it would discourage some people. I'm sure you would pass :)

[@diogenio]

Agreed! The level of respect and commitment to the service is directly related to how difficult the testing is, no doubt in my mind. I did my 20 WPM Extra Class back in 1975. 73, W1LJ

[@matthewweaver1123]

However if you actually listened to what was going on during the dxpedition, 1 these were not 'new hams' behaving this way, and 2 the cw portions of the band were just as pathetic as phone with people putting out 1kw of carrier over CW contacts. There were way to many well seasoned killowat stations acting like this as well.

[@jamespowers8826]

This kind of behavior is what has driven me to local VHF and UHF stuff, and I've been a HAM since I was 10 years old (1960). A lot of really bad actors have taken over amateur radio, many just rude, others with world domination agendas. A very different hobby these days than when I would run phone patches from otherwise unreachable places in the world. Anyway, thanks for speaking honestly about the bad guys.

[@1OFGODSOWN]

Well in North America the FCC is just a Toothless Lion and they could care less about the Amateur Bands unless someone is causing an issue with business or Law enforcement.I believe they would rather just sell the band space and put more money into their own pockets.They are pretty much Useless and have been for many years.

[@1OFGODSOWN]

@gm4dhj more like animal nature.

[@samjones-ou3bn]

its sad that this can happen on such a great DXpedition the lady has good advice !!!

[@festeradams3972]

Got my Novice Ticket in 71', and my General around 76'. My "time to leave" came when during the Space Shuttle Program and some Stations were kind enough to rebroadcast some Shuttle Audio (pre-Challanger), I heard some guy who just couldn't accept that a small bit of the band was being used for this purpose, say "I hope the thing blows up!".

[@rudiclaes8661]

Yes it's crazy, somethimes you even don't hear the Bouvert station, here already in the log on 15 SSB, 17 en 15 CW :)

[@YLRaisa]

You are lucky guy, Rudi! CONGRATULATION!!! Now please give others a chance. 😉

[@rudiclaes8661]

@@YLRaisa I'll do, I have them now also on 30m, but I will not call in FT8 to give a chance to the litlle pistols, that will be their chance to make it :)

[@cosmicinsane516]

We see this behavior on TV, in Congress, on the news, and everyday in traffic. I’m not surprised we are seeing more and more on the ham bands.

[@timelord1137]

Однажды, во время одного из пайлапов, мне даже предложили пойти на другую частоту "разобраться"😂 Когда люди держат кнопку передачи без остановки и даже вызывающему не дают слова сказать - работать в такой свалке не доставляет совершенно никакого удовольствия. Ну ведь есть же регламент, в конце-то концов🙄

[@ARDFsport]

Просто было очень много желающих, 3% из них вели себя некорректно, но наделали много шума, так как это были десятки "хамов"...

[@willpayne5230]

New ham here I made this mistake one time started calling with out listening someone set me straight LOL very glad they did. Its actually made things easier.

[@berettamod961]

I just stumbled upon this video and channel. It is pretty amazing how many people are just in it for the rare DX. I hope to make contact with YL Raisa in the future but I need an equipment upgrade first! 73s to everybody!

[@a2phil]

Need a working hf radio!!!

[@berettamod961]

@@a2phil I have two but recently moved and I dont have the antennas deployed yet.

[@frankwc0o]

Something similar happen to me when doing POTA a few weeks ago. I was calling CQ, when someone was telling me their signal report and saying gibberish. Very annoying, but you must press on - can't let these individuals ruin your day. Like your new look Raisa. :)

[@YLRaisa]

Hi Frank, thanks. I wish you that this does not happen again.

[@DontTreadOnMe825]

Well said Raisa - if people can't remember their manners & behave like normal, polite human beings, then they shouldn't be transmitting. Manners cost nothing & go a long way. Ash M7CCQ

[@YLRaisa]

Ash, we need talk about it, maybe someone forget 🤗

[@kevinmatthews2620]

excellent point well raised Raisa, been stepped over for any sort of dx contact is what led me to unplug my mic many years ago, i now only operate digital modes, my personal experience that sent me this way was a american station in New York refusing to believe my signal report because he was using 1.5 kw and my signal report was not what he expected, @ the time my power output my on my M6 license of 10w ,and i was giving him 5&9, and he was giving my 5&7, the same with breaking into a VP8LP ssb pileup people NOT listening to Bob when he was asking for areas that were not Italy or America, sad so sad, now my antenna is a Ultrabeam 2 element i rarely move its position as i can work the world on 100w digital ,and even win contests with it , 73's & 88's Raisa de Kevin

[@YLRaisa]

Kevin, maybe you attach too much negative importance to individual special cases? come back on bands with SSB. 99% of working is normal and nice

[@tomm899]

Love this hobby. Sometimes people not so much.

[@bradleyclark88]

Hi Raisa. It is crazy some of the bad behaviors I have heard on the HF bands. I am an avid DXer and this happens more than I wish it would!!

[@YLRaisa]

But it was a very special case... with this DX pedition. I think it is not common

[@martykitson3442]

happy to see you are on the bands, will look for you kl4gu be polite to each other first rule of amateur radio thANK YOU YL and forgive my all caps , dang button

[@stevanalp]

Thank you for this video!!! I really hope people will see it! I know it's super easy for me just to say it but I'll do it anyway: if you could reach other hams on YT to make a similar video, the impact might be sufficient. They will probably rather listen you than some random guy like my self... All the best, 73.

[@YLRaisa]

Stevan, you can share this video 😉

[@stevanalp]

@@YLRaisa Already did 😉

[@kieths1]

So sorry for the QRM you got. I only tried on FT8, and unfortunately didn't make it in by your closing time about 19:00 UTC, 12/Feb/2023. Best wishes for a safe trip home. K1OKS

[@JohnHill-qo3hb]

There used to be a hate session on 20m a few years ago between a Canadian ham and a crowd of US stations, it may still be going on, I don't know.

[@YLRaisa]

Really? I hope that it will be not again

[@JohnHill-qo3hb]

That Canadian ham was in Victoria BC, I met him, seemed a nice guy, I listened in on the on air BS. I thought, why indulge the stupidity just go to another band. I have no idea what it was all about or how it started. It is a wonder these idiots, yup even the guy I met weren't reported to the FCC and Industry Canada and have the maximum penalty levied upon them. I'm pretty sure it is all history now the guy I met wasn't a young man, could be dead by now.= as it was 15 years ago that I met him. Personally I think sometime when this sort of on-air behavior goes on the license of the offenders should be cancelled and equipment destroyed and they now ex ham should be on a list forbidding them from acquiring any form of radio equipment including table radios and TVs.

[@JonathanKayne]

The other thing that I absolutely hate is when stations tune on my frequency. If you want to work a station, move away a few kHz and tune there instead of blasting every other station off the band on my end.

[@YLRaisa]

Yes, it's very strange

[@JonathanKayne]

@@YLRaisa it's not strange, its just annoying when I'm working CW and can barely hear a station and then someone blasts it away with a 1.5kW tone to tune up

[@JonathanKayne]

And what do you know, the DX code of conduct specifically says not to tune on the DX station's frequency.

[@xv9dl]

Raisa, You called them voices. In America we call them "lids" a historic ham radio term

[@jeromec5199]

It's like everyday life, the world is going crazy !

[@jaccodejongthenetherlands611]

it is a clown world

[@brianfields4479]

This has always been this way, and is why I never chase dx pile ups. Good to see you , take care .

[@YLRaisa]

Thnaks, Brian

[@andch.6659]

Thank you, Raisa, for the new video!

[@YLRaisa]

И всё же это редкий случай. На ВЧ диапазонах такое случается крайне редко. Так что я не хотела бы никого расстроить таким видео ;-)

[@andch.6659]

🙏

[@TeologiaArtesanal]

It's terrible. Impossible to get any contact. Totally lack of operational ethics. I'm copying all of this craziness from here in southeast Brazil. Just follow the basics guys.

[@YLRaisa]

Igor, I agree with you

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

thats why FT8 is so relaxing

[@g4obb]

Yep....so relaxing you can fall asleep and let the computer do the work....Amateur radio NOT !!!

[@dxscotland5901]

It’s worse than 27.555 😱

[@DK5ONV]

No doubt about it

[@rolfsblog]

Triple 5 is a madhouse too... sometimes... people who stay on the frequenty talking to each other...

[@aa5unmarty905]

In America, they are called "no code" hams. Dumbed down ham radio.

[@YLRaisa]

The code of conduct is very important to know! Thanks!

[@RichardDePas]

Many operators don't understand how to operate split. Guess they skipped that part of their training.

[@YLRaisa]

How to make a split - it is a good idea for the new video. Thanks Richard!

[@RichardDePas]

@@YLRaisa Great thinking! 73 de K9WWW

[@patrickbuick5459]

I only recently got back into HF after decades of only using 2m & 70cm. I had to really scratch my noggin to remember how to set up split on my rig, but I did and made contacts. It is definitely easier on some rigs than others, lol.

[@paul-c7541]

I like QRP & CW, mostly because many of them have trouble with CW & QRP, you tend to get grown-up radio amateurs with, these modes.

[@paul-c7541]

@@YLRaisa Most only have learned to switch it on, don't expect them to do anything too technical.

[@ianbuffham4006]

Raisa, you just have to be patient. Another better organized expedition will come along in a few years and you will be in the log. Your amateur radio videos are very good and provide very good publicity for the hobby. Ian, HS0ZGL

[@YLRaisa]

Thanks Ian

[@BrekMartin]

My microphone lives in my car now, and I use my transceiver as a shortwave receiver. The self importance of ham radio!

[@russkruse]

I always love your posts. Blessings to you 🙏

[@r2dtxradiobushcrafting]

Yeah am SWL also.) Thanks for the video Raisa. 73!

[@YLRaisa]

Ждём Вас на диапазонах! То, что происходит на частотах Буве - это просто частный случай. В остальном, на ВЧ диапазонах всё в порядке ;-)

[@adamuschak4258]

The uber-competitive in any hobby can sour it for newcomers. I respect those that want out there and did what they could!

[@YLRaisa]

Adam, I agree with you, 3Y0J team did everything they can.

[@paulkf5pv]

I recoginized one of the Italian stations calling lol. This is a very big, dangerous and difficult expedition. I hope to work them. I currently don't see any spots for them at this time. that is good for me because I am still at work haha.

[@YLRaisa]

I tried to MUTE the last letter of their Callsigns ;-)

[@JacobNewmen]

I listened to it in the Czech Republic, it was very sad ..... :( 73! OK1TCM

[@basshorseman998]

I cant argue with a thing you have said.... Years ago I got yelled at myself

[@kduvio]

The expedition, after fighting the wind (and some still wrestling with the concept that maybe they should act like Hams and not do-it-for-me passengers), has likewise been 72'd (all I can think of - having recently heard the LID show on 7200kHz) - WZ0L

[@YLRaisa]

Yes, you are right. The guys have to experience such difficulties there and such behavior is, first of all, not respect for them. 😞

[@kduvio]

@@YLRaisa And now our attention must turn to Turkey and Syria. Perhaps Bouvet will keep the spammers busy while hams assist the survivors and rescue work.

[@TheDroopYJ]

I was unable to participate with the DXpedition this time as myself and other club members were unfamiliar with how to fox hunt on FT8. We set up our own training session to be able to figure this out and it was great fun. While it would be cool to log DXCC QSO's, I am more interested in learning how to improve my operating efficiency with my old, hybrid radio. The event of easy to use appliances is ruining the hobby. We no longer have operators, the CB world has invaded with their high power amplifiers and self-aggrandizing, bombastic attitudes. It will eventually sort itself out, but it will take time. 73's - KD2USM

[@sc20910]

Agree fully. It's interesting though that some of this may be due to operating in split mode, which probably a lot of folks have never done before (including me) and therefore may not even understand instructions like 5 up.

[@YLRaisa]

It only means that you need to urgently google or ask a friend. 😉

[@TonyYarusso]

I don’t remember what the question was exactly, but there definitely was *a* question on the US licensure exam about split operations. That meant that when the day came that I heard a station calling “5 up”, I had no idea how to actually do it, but I still instantly knew what I needed to look for in my radio’s manual before I keyed up. So, yeah, it’s confusing and unusual, but everyone is *supposed* to know that if you’re confused you should listen and read first, talk later.

[@tulenik71]

Agreed. It seems like many ops, especially from some countries, didn't even hear about split mode. Possible cause is, they started on VHF/UHF only (with focus on repeater use), like Technician class in US, then discovered simplex operation, maybe only after they did their first upgrade to HF privileges. But this is not only US problem, similarly dumbed down allocations are in other countries, too. Second, if your proficiency certificate is based only on the test, you can mechanically learn what to tick. Often, test questions are quite dumb (memorizing things I will always with me in bandplan) and in that pile of memorizing, the real use of split mode will became only a distant notion. In OM, there is still real, oral exam, so anyone can be asked about split operation in depth. Because we had some HF allocation in lowest class at least from 2005 (in fact it was always here before invention of D class what was dumbed down VHF/UHF class at the Technician level - but those old A-D classes are long gone) and now we have all bands all modes even for CEPT Novice, it is one of the most frequently asked questions during the exam (there are some questions in fact anybody will be asked, maybe using different words). In my club, there was a lot about DXing including detailed description of split operation. On the top of that, we were instructed what to study when we will try to do it first time by ourselves. I have printed ON4UN/ON4WW "operation textbook" on my desk, just for the case. There was a guy with me at the exam, who was fully self-educated using the materials from SARA and CRK websites. Although he'd never seen a HF radio, he did know all these things so good he astonished the examiner. As I mentioned above, now in my country even N class operators have all bands all modes. Before, we were limited to 160, 80 (that means night bands and 160 on the top of that quite noisy and hard to use for beginners), 15 and 10 (although daytime, often unusable in solar cycle minima) m bands on HF. On the top of that, DX segments were cut off. That means, N class ops had a little to none chance becoming experienced in DXing (but at least SOME chance in comparison with countries with lowest class being VHF/UHF only). This way, "we" (or regulators) make inexperienced E class ops. I would say it is too late to take part in DX pileups after waiting for E class (at least a year here). One can become impatient, "pressurized" by a long waiting to do it. Now, I can take a part in DXing from the beginning, BUT as a beginner, still not quite sure, I am more willing to listen with operation manual open, because I still need to find the balls before pushing PTT. For total beginners, pile-up is usually frightening enough to prevent them trying anything before they will catch a clue what's going on, but inexperienced but impatient and a bit too much self-assured fresh E class op with several hundreds, maybe thousands simplex calls is more prone to make a DQRM.

[@wino4340]

It's the saw on CW. Crazy....you'd think that the rarity of Bouvet and the fact that so many would like to make contact that people would be orderly so as many people can work them. They're only going to be there a short time...maybe on DXpedetions like this the crew heading to the location should set up some kind of lottery or number scheme and when your number comes up it's your turn....like standing in line at the bakery. Take a number and wait your turn.

[@YLRaisa]

I raised this issue on my Facebook page. There is actually a way to work pile up by numbers, but in this case I don't think it's possible.

[@terrymefford697]

There is no code of conduct 80m and 11m as well, 160 gentlemen's band with large antenna.

[@ИлиодорМонах]

20 лет назад сработал с Буве (1 QSO на 20 метрах SSB), поэтому внял призыву экспедиционеров "не звать, если уже остров Буве в журнале". По прошествии времени читаю на Форуме восторженные высказывания о том, как наши аксакалы от радио провели с этой экспедицией связи на 5 диапазонах в CW, SSB и FT8. Для себя заключил: "Ham spirit умер"

[@YLRaisa]

Спасибо за то, что вы сохраните дух радиолюбительства и даёте хороший пример другим!!! Такие комментарии очень важны! До встречи в эфире! 73&88

[@ИлиодорМонах]

@@YLRaisa всегда рад вас слышать, Раиса! Как я вам и говорил, встретив вас на 20-ке, вы - звёздочка ✳ на эфирном небосклоне, а ваша улыбка доставляет радость людям. Сейчас глянул ваш ролик о работе в CQ WW 2022 позывным OH7BG - изумительно! Какая великолепная радость на лице девушки при достижении порога в 1000 QSO - это многого стоит! Какая радость, что есть такие люди, как вы. 🔥С уважением и благодарностью к вам, Дмитрий RW4C 73! 88! 🌹😊

[@JackFalltrades]

Thank you for this video! It's shocking behavior.

[@jimf4492]

You make excellent points, but what I heard on 15M and 17M wasn't just due to newbies, lids and the Band Police. There was a lot of willful and nasty interference too. I also heard a guy on 17M who was answering and confirming contacts from stations calling on the DX's calling frequency - even though 3Y0J explicitly said they would be operating split - and you could hear the pile-up up about 5kHz! I finally gave up. I can understand ignorance and/or inexperience, but I just don't get the horrible behavior. Thanks for the video. 73.

[@kc8653]

Sounded like channel 38 lsb on the cb band...lol.... They should bring back code requirement in the states. It would keep alot of idiots off the air. Worse thing they ever did was drop the code requirement

[@ulliBG]

Hello Raisa, the same Situation on FT8 !!!

[@45auto]

Sadly, the DX Code of Conduct is not part of the licensing process here in the USA. For that matter, neither is how to work split.

[@diogenio]

Neither is knowing Morse nor anything slightly resembling technical knowledge.

[@matthewweaver1123]

Really? Working split was on my test 1 year ago.

[@mikeamaraln1mx]

This why I operate CW !

[@FatJoey-k9m]

Hi YL, yes our global bands are indeed saturated with comms like this, but remember the global conflicts we’re all in right now… this leads always to disorganized chaotic emissions - especially when grid-tied comms are no longer trusted nor reliable. Don’t lose your spirit over it… there’s a few in every crowd. Just know it’s just a handful of immature people by contrast… they go away after awhile and pick up some other hobby when they get bored of being ignored. The rest of us however are always around. Keep the spirit alive and know it’s just a handful. It’s people like you who are important to us globally.

[@YLRaisa]

Hi! I will not lose my spirit! I know they are few part of all hams :-) 73 and thanks for your comment! Raisa

[@fernandoares9032]

I was unable to work them since I did not hear them much on SSB. When I did the behavior of some hams was so atrocious that I decided to pass. Feel sorry for those guys at Bouvet that tried to give us a new DX country. Sad day for ham radio!

[@Truby52]

I have been a ham radio operator for a long time, starting when i was 14 years old. Unfortunately this was not just an issue of listening or not, it is dQRM or deliberate QRM (interference). These people did not want this DXpedtion to be successful, they didn't want other hams to make a QSO with 2nd most rare DXCC entity. I heard language I thought I would never hear on the ham bands. Even on CW, which many old timers believe is the true gentlemen's mode, well you would never know it! On 30m CW I had he audio gain up hoping to hear Bouvet and then someone either tuning or holding the key down endlessly would blow my ears apart. I don't like getting angry but these op's took all he joy out of chasing this DXpedition. And on top of this, were horrible, selfish, bad comments on DX Summit.

[@YLRaisa]

I understand what you're talking about, and it's really sad that these people are deliberately getting in the way. Let's think about what can be done to fix this situation?

[@garycook5125]

The most important rules to follow, are those published by governmental agencies who license operators in different countries, like the FCC in America. If Americans (for example), would abide by FCC 97.113 a, 5, most of the other problems would be instantly eliminated. American Amateur Radio Service licensees need to stop acting like young boys, playing on CB radios.

[@YLRaisa]

Yes, Gary, the rules are very easy to follow. Maybe we should talk about them more often?

[@luizcolossiPY3DU]

The behavior of the international community at this event, among others, should serve to reflect on what amateur radio has become today.

[@dennismoore7830]

It is very bad. Some of it is due to operator error, or not understanding how or what Split is for, but much of it seems to be intentional. I can barely hear 3Y0J in California, so it is nearly impossible to know who they are responding to.

[@YLRaisa]

Therefore I am preparing a new video about Split...maybe somebody will learn more about it. 73 ,Raisa

[@ronwolenski-n8wcr]

Listen is a good advice all the time, but especially when these people are trying to do something real special with all the hardship they have to endure in order to do this DXpedition! If this keeps up there will not be any more because people don't want to put up with this nonsense! You tell them Raisa and thank you for bringing this up to everyone. LISTEN!

[@ジャグラー777紫観光]

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[@DonDegidio]

Hi Raisa, Well said. It's a shame the bad weather at the island is causing them extreme difficulty offloading the heavy equipment. Wish them all a safe Dxpedition. WJ3U

[@ronm6359]

Bad weather is the norm at Bouvet, unfortunately. de N0SL

[@alessandro8970]

This Is why i do ft8 and other Digital modes

[@KillercatRadio]

The FCC opened the flood gate for this when they dropped the code requirements.

[@stevelondon5998]

How does this explain the bad behavior on the 3Y0J CW frequencies ?

[@YLRaisa]

if somebody wants to follow the code, he will do it I think... The code is quite easy and available online..

[@diogenio]

@@stevelondon5998 keyboards and code readers.

[@multiphilification]

Who would want to do another dxpedition to Bouvet after this?

[@thibeault]

At first I thought you were listening to the trolls on 7200 kHz. Instead of QSL cards, I should make some QRM cards to send to lids who tune up on frequency. 😀

[@TheREALJosephTurner]

Sadly, "listen first" is becoming a lost art form all across amateur radio. With any pileup, I like to listen for a bit to see how the operator likes to operate. Are they working split? Are they asking for certain prefixes or locations? Are they pausing for QRP/mobile stations? Do they like to work a list after calling QRZ? Are you still throwing out your call after they have already selected a contact? Is the operator seemingly ignoring people with poor operating practices? ALL of these can be determined by just listening for a bit before pushing the tx button!