I’ve NEVER seen an NHL referee do this

[@ToaastyKoyote]

Just hearing the, "There is no penalty....." absolutely gutted me. Fucking hilarious!

[@chobitASHL3Y]

that ref was basically like, "oops lol"

[@BarrettSendrowski]

All this at the NHL level is hilarious

[@karlshuler1011]

The ref was doing his best John Travolta and Saturday Night Fever move.

[@AFchris77]

lol, cue the Benny Hill music. Wow this officiating. Love angry Torts. Love when angry Torts is right bc then he really gets going.

[@diegozaratepereira1219]

The official was saying hi to his nephew George, he was in the stands waving back 😂

[@samuelpratt642]

Nah, he was being a nazi

[@Horners_Finger]

Your doing such a great job with these videos, interesting and relevant clips/situations, you also have a great speaker voice. Good fking job man!

[@BahamutBreaker]

The correct thing for the referee to do would be to actually follow through on the penalty that he initially signaled, until the next stoppage. Then, at that time, admit the error, waive off the penalty, and just resume with an even-strength face-off. Selfishly trying to “hide” his mistake essentially forced the ref to compound his initial error with several more cascading errors. Embarrassing.

[@bvldr]

Lmao torts a passionate coach and I’ve disagreed with his reactions at times, but his reaction here is absolutely bang-on and there should be zero disagreements

[@samuelpratt642]

Another episode in the saga of NHL reffing

[@Tam0de]

Accountability is what i'm really looking for. That ref knew he raised his arm. If he's in denial, he can check the game footage. Man up & admit you made a mistake. The NHL should release a statement about it & sit down with this ref to discuss his error in order to prevent it from happening again. Because that really was horseshit - and i'm not even a Philly fan.

[@Sincopare]

The Officials Union is trying to give Tortorella a heart attack. Could've done this to any team, but of course it had to be the flyers.

[@darthollpheist1156]

The NHL hates the Flyers. Did you ever see the hand pass goal that was allowed even when The Flyers tried to challenge and the refs literally said "you're not allowed to challenge that", then went and dropped the puck. Then in between periods the NHL released a statement saying that The Flyers did have the right to challenge but that there was a miscommunication between the refs and the coach. LOL. To make it worse, they allowed the goal to stand. It should've been taken down in between periods. If the rules say something and the refs decide to not honor the rules, the rule that any goal counts after puck is dropped shouldn't come into play. They should've made a one time exception and took that goal away. Luckily, The Flyers still won but it's the principle. The wouldn't allow a HAND PASS GOAL!!! LOL, to be challenged. NHL refs TOTALLY went to shit as soon as online betting companies became some of the main sponsors of the NHL. I wonder why that is? Just like I think it's a conflict of interest to have a company sponsor the NHL and also sponsor players.

[@mikejoerger3333]

The officiating in this league just gets worse and worse.It's utterly disgusting. T j Sucksmore is one of the worst officials in the damn league

[@kaden593]

as an official (i work up to western league and usport men’s) we get absolutely hemmed when we “chicken wing” meaning that you’re second guessing calling a penalty and you put your arm up halfway then put it down. i’ve been told by literally 100 people to “only put your arm up unless you’re absolutely sure” i genuinely can’t believe what i watched, on top of being brutal it’s actually hilarious.

[@craigharrison5406]

Come on man. If you put your hand up you got to make the call. I mean one team's goalie is racing off automatically when he sees that hand. This is absurd.

[@travisskeans2511]

He doesn't have to make a call.. his hand was up for one second. The coach could of easily realized this and sent the goalie back

[@danb239]

​@@travisskeans2511lmao, no, why are you defending this stupidity?

[@craigharrison5406]

@@travisskeans2511 That's just dumb. So what happens if a goal is scored on that empty net after the ref changes his mind and pulls the arm down while the goalie is caught in no mans land? Can you see how this is a problem? McFly is anyone in there?

[@Lazybonesitis]

am I just slow or why would a delayed penalty justify too many men?

[@blakezworld]

Welcome to Gary's NHL

[@nigelcanuck5943]

Plausible explanation; (Ref counting to self) One, two, three, four, Six (arm goes up) One two, three, four, five, (oh? right five comes after four) (Arm down) 🤣

[@Garb316]

Torts should suit up and be the ONLY one to come our as a protest next game. Force this issue on the bad officiating. But, for the speed of the game and how many they get right as compared as to how many they screw up....

[@23mylo60]

This whole sequence felt like a god damn acid trip🤣

[@РостиславКиселев-и1ю]

я обожаю, как ты выдаешь информацию😂 Боже, дай Торторелло здоровья, чтобы не словить инфаркт в середине матча

[@justinbond558]

Yeah, this was definitely a crazy game to watch. I’ve seen some bad refereeing, but this one really took the cake… 😅

[@benlincoln7358]

@nextmanupNMU not that it really matters, but that give away at 0:38 was York, not Frost. Always enjoy your content, keep it up!

I totally understand the officials. It is hard to see everything and sometimes you just shuffle with your hands. High pressure in a fast game, shit happens sometimes. That's it.

[@timomajere]

I can almost guarantee, nothing will materialize because of this. NHL won't do squat. They will say 'Its already over so get over it.'

[@0shark096]

What's to be done? They didn't penalize either team for their error. I can understand Torts being angry initially but the situation ended with his team being able to play 6 on 5 for a bit without penalty. The Kane call was bad but it happens pretty frequently. I have no idea if it's related or not, but if it is, Torts came out far ahead.

[@TheMrTwizter]

Im glad other people saw what i saw while watching this. I've never seen a ref fo that. Thought i was losing it

[@luketrottier6677]

Am I completely losing my mind? I am just watching this video, and I've admittedly stepped back from hockey over the past few years. But doesn't having a ref arm up for an opponent penalty (once they touch the puck), and you icing an extra skater, mean you are pulling your goalie for an extra skater, because if the other team touches the puck, the whistle blows for a penalty? So if your goalie is pulled and you put a 6th skater on the ice, it isn't a too many men on the ice penalty??? Even if some crazy weird garbage happens like throwing the hand up on DET, and then retracting it suddenly. And if they had their goalie on the ice and deployed a 6th player, isn't that too many men on the ice, regardless of a pending DET penalty, too? Like, if there is a pending penalty, you can't leave your goalie in the crease and ice 10 players because the first call was for DET. Either way, the initial issue and problem is calling a DET penalty and retracting it. I'm just really confused about this too many men situation.

[@Garb316]

Puling the goalie and throwing a 6th skater on: still 6 total, still legal. Throwing the 6th on without pulling the goalie would be a too many men penalty.

[@kneubeck1]

What moron would say it was the Flyers mistake. The hand went up and the pulled the goalie. Then ref puts his hand back down and the goalie goes back out, then leaving too many men on the ice due to referees mistake. Also officials should have put time back on the ice to when the mistake was made with a face off at center ice. More brutal officiating from the nhl.

[@rickseiden1]

I don't understand what the ref having his hand up has to do with the Flyers having 6 men on the ice and still having a goalie in the net. Even if it was a delayed penalty, you have to pull the goalie before you get that sixth man on, and, from the looks of things, the Flyers didn't do that. Maybe I missed something? ELIF Also, when a Flyer gives up the puck in center ice and it results in a goal against, do you think his reaction is, "I've let my team down," or "I'm going to hear it from Torts for that one"?

[@CyriltheWolfmusic]

From what the broadcast said ersson had been basically at the bench by the time everyone realized the hand went back down

[@banjonochallenge3120]

Ref should be suspended with no pay. Make an example that lying and poor officiating will cost you now

[@nkdarren1225]

Judging by Tortorella and his Assistant on the bench ,looks like the referee denied the mistake but still didn't give a penalty to the Flyers? Someone knows they messed up lol. I get it though, referees are human and are prone to mistakes, like all of us. I just hope they didn't try to outright lie about it

[@edited1325]

This is a mistake on an egregious level considering it’s the NHL Whoever that ref was should be talked to and possibly face consequences for that mistake A fine might make sense here

[@nkdarren1225]

@edited1325 it is a bad one, I'm not denying that. Whether actual consequences will be handed out, we will see

[@metaloid3690]

You still cant have 6 players and a goalie. The goalie should have been on the bench which he obviously wasn't. Therefore Flyers should have received too many men penalty.

[@tryskacz]

love the lip sync :D

[@GeoffCano]

The Jomboy of hockey 😂

[@pat39576]

I honestly think this is a weird call to have to make. In all honesty it is too many men even if they call a penalty as the goalie is still out, but if the goalie had gone to the bench Detroit would have scored. A bad move by the refs and a very soft call to make it up.

[@dapete]

Sharks fan here...hopefully Tortorella doesn't get the same fine our coach got

[@MrJvog]

What of Philly had scored with six players on the ice? Refs made a mistake but so did Philly.

[@deltagolavista1]

The goalie has to get off the ice before the 6th man can get on for a delayed penalty. How was Philly's goalie still on the ice if there was an extra attacker? It should have been a too many men penalty.

[@SonofShortMan]

he came back on the ice after because if you're suddenly not getting a power play, you'd rather be shorthanded than have an empty net

[@karlshuler1011]

Because it confused everyone. He was near the bench when the player jumped on and rushed into the play. The goalie saw his arm go down, so he went back is what probably happened.

[@deltagolavista1]

@@karlshuler1011 I don't think it confused anyone. I think Torts took advantage of the situation. The Refs even gave Philly enough time to get the extra attacker off the ice once everyone knew there wasn't a penalty and only when they were defending 6-5 did they call the extra man. That means all 6 players skated by the bench and had the opportunity to get off.

[@darthollpheist1156]

The refs were like "well, let's not call any of the stuff against The Wings". The NHL HATES The Flyers. The ONLY call they made for them was actually a terrible call made because they needed to fix their mistake. They were throwing Flyers in the box for stuff that was so weak. They just kept throwing them in the box until The Wings scored. Then put their whistles away for the rest of the game except to make the one terrible call against The Wings as a make up call. The linesmen weren't good either. Calling icings on plays that weren't icing. Like the time Tippet got the puck first... was at the hash marks first..... was in past the D... but.... Icing. For some reason. Wasn't just that either. Missed offsides that didn't amount to anything so it didn't matter but still. The refs played a big roll in the win for The Wings. That being said, The Flyers couldn't lock it down on D and they were giving up too many odd many rushes. It cost them. So it wasn't all the refs. I want to make that clear. But, they sure didn't help it be a fair game.

[@patricklauzon7019]

for a moment he forgot to follow the National League's guidelines , on this evening detroit had to win...oupsss

[@danb239]

As a Wings fan the ref should of just called the penalty instead of putting his hand down and changing his mind

[@anannon8384]

why would you argue it when it's all on video? just apologize and move on. officials can make mistakes, but when they deny it, that's when I lose respect.

[@chrisolson2846]

I think this a huge overreaction. Not on the uploader but on torts. Refs in football can pick flags up after discussing it with other refs. I'd actually like to see this in hockey.

[@garrettpater6557]

No, because pulling the goalie on a delayed penalty is a legitimate strategy. Why should the other team get to play with 6 guys when there wasn’t an actual penalty? Why should the team who pulled the goalie risk getting scored on because the official changed his mind? It’s one thing in football to revoke a flag after the play is dead, but it has no place in hockey.

[@samuelpratt642]

Ya, this is hockey not football. Football is a start and stop game where a penalty can be taken back. A penalty in a fluid game like hockey is much different. It I much more integrated into developing play and strategy.that’s why there is something called a delayed penalty.

[@AlyxiSistahTweaky25]

Torts got rewarded for crying like a baby over his own mistake. Philly had 6 skaters and a goalie on the ice at the same time. Nothing the ref does with his arm allows that. The arm was up for less time than it takes for the goalie to reach the bench, and the skater going off has to wait for the goalie to reach the bench. The Flyers got away with one there. As for toe-pick hooking call...that shit happens all the time. Kane got his stick blade into the hands of the puck carrier. That is a hook. It wasn't called because the player went down. Maybe a bit of a weak call, but by the rule book, a technically correct one.

[@cjveeneman]

on a delayed call the arm stays up until stoppage, but the arm went down shortly after, so my question is, was the 6th flyer on the ice before the arm went back down ? Odd situation.

[@travisskeans2511]

Yeah idc thats on Flyers coach, the referee had his hand up for a second. Coach should of called the goalie back.

[@danb239]

Lmao no way

[@ryanbencze]

Quite possibly his last game. I’m not sure if he’ll get more after this. Which is sad.

[@billpeterson178]

1, 2, 3, 4, 6.... Hand up, wait. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5..... Hand down.

[@mechanicalelizabeth]

The wings always end up having to play against two teams at home. The away team and the refs. They have been terrible all year making bad calls all over the place

[@SonofShortMan]

Can you explain how the ref deciding not to call a penalty against the wings after putting the arm up is harmful to the wings?

[@mechanicalelizabeth]

@@SonofShortMan You mean not calling the to many men on PHI? Yeah, having 7 players on the ice against the wings was totally something not worth calling.

[@arthurkjr]

Torts is mad? So the refs called it right down the middle.

[@SonofShortMan]

Torts was mad when he was about to be called for too many men. You can clearly see his demeanor change (in the broadcast footage) when it became no call to both teams, even though he stood his ground that the ref had their arm up

[@TaliaTheNeko]

Besides NHL refereeing being utter trash for years, I find it harder and harder to believe that I am supposed to discount this as some form of human error. Meanwhile, the between period show is talking betting odds on various things in the game. Yeah....totally above board. wink wink, nudge nudge

[@RM-mh6jc]

Montreal is getting 4 points this weekend. Bank on it

[@thefamilymans2545]

Torts is wrong. It's a penalty. Ref can put his arm up at any time. If it's not kept up, no penalty. Torts seen him put his arm down.

[@thefamilymans2545]

A trip is a trip. High stick is high stick. Too many men, too .any men. It wasn't refs fault philly sent out extra guy AND kept their goalie out. Philly bench is wrong. Just like when sabres had icing called off, and habs scored two weeks ago.