I want this on ALL of my keyboards now! - Epomaker Shadow-X

[@RustyBrakes]

Imagine if it was something useful like a fingerprint sensor for Windows Hello?

[@pazdikan]

Especially if more apps decide to start using keypasses, the only option now is to buy an impractical external fingerprint scanner. I'd love to see fingerprint sensors in good mechanical keyboards!

[@lorensims4846]

I'm loving that functionality on my MacBook Air. Jes sayin'…

[@swirlofsilliness]

​@@pazdikanor even support for using our android phone fingerprint scanners for Hello

[@MarcSpctr]

​@@swirlofsilliness It used to allow Samsung Phones' Fingerprint Sensor to be used for that purpose but then Microsoft changed stuff and removed the support.

[@MarcSpctr]

​@@lorensims4846 last time I checked even Windows laptops have them. MECHANICAL KEYBOARDS is the point of discussion here not LAPTOPS.

[@thebreatho]

I can't believe that knob is not for volume, that kills it for me

[@TroublesomeOwl]

yeah, that just killed the sale for me, i was about to pull the trigger

[@jan-Juta]

I imagine it's programmable

[@ChillKG]

I have th80 pro from epomaker The software lets you program it

[@PHIplaytesting]

@@jan-Juta Watch when he turns it; it looks like it clicks to about 5 different stopping points.

[@TheRogueAdventurers]

It also doesn't have media controls, I use those so much on my keyboard I don't think I could move away from that

[@jasonh4534]

Back like 10 years ago or so, there was a keyboard where every key was a small OLED… Expensive as heck though.

[@1337Atreyu]

The Optimus. Wanted that thing so bad. And I remember it from the early 2000s. Like 2004 or something.

[@jasonh4534]

@@1337Atreyu I was thinking around the 2010 time frame… But that’s the one.

[@Okusar]

The Optimus Maximus by Art. Lebedev Studio. Extremely cool, but extremely expensive and limited.

[@cybertonto72]

Always thought that by now we would have at least the F-row keys as OLED keys. I remember seeing that keyboard and thinking I don't want those keys as my WASD keys but I would love them for a macro pad

[@sadmanh0]

Razer had a laptop, and keyboard too I think, where the macro keys had OLED displays in them.

[@KinGlamour]

I hate keyboards without the F row, I use those function alot

[@LOKO22Bach]

I don't do shit and I use them too, not all of them but I use them at least five times per boot, I don't think I would be able to replace them with macros since all of them do different things (depending on the program running)

[@profosist]

@@LOKO22Bach you just press the fn key as your pressing it

[@LOKO22Bach]

@@profosist the inconvenience adds up when you have to use other modifiers at the same time

[@profosist]

@@LOKO22Bach luckily as it turns out humans have many fingers

[@operatorlink]

​@@profosisthands not big enough to simultaneously press the fn and number keys to toggle f keys with 1 hands. I set macros on my f keys to do shit

[@Jj82op]

This 70% layout looks very weird, I guess it's just not common. I'm sure it does fit for a specific kind of person. Oh really reasonable price too.

[@jagdteaguer]

No one needs anything more than a 50% imo, learn layers and save time

[@lbgstzockt8493]

Just add the buttons and save even more time. Just buy a bigger desk.@@jagdteaguer

[@Nightykk]

Add a Fn button, and just get rid of 50% of the keys, let every single one have a double function. Just git gut.

[@jivewig]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@jagdteaguerexactly! Keyboards should just have one key. The input can be registered by clicking the key as many times as the ascii value of the character you’re trying to type.

[@zeciby]

@@jagdteaguer mmmm when it comes to gaming I am 100% with you there! But as someone that uses for example blender a numpad isnt really something I can not have since its used for navigation.

[@gakuyax]

Function and print screen keys are a must imo. Also i dont see the use of that tiny screen when i have a bigger screen called the monitor.

[@88porpoise]

Kind of disappointing that they didn't even go into its capabilities. Is it just limited to a picture.or a gif or something? In which case it is just a novelty. I could see it having a niche practical benefit if you can feed it CPU/GPU usage/temps, have it pop up email or teams notifications or things like that when you just don't want it as in your face or using up screen real estate.

[@mastrer1000]

I really don't understand why you would not fill those massive bezels with more keys

[@mexibobor]

also does the keyboard support anti ghosting or not? For such a gaming focused channel I waited until they mention it, but they didnt..

[@88porpoise]

@@mastrer1000 Presumably those bezels are there to contain something.

[@aikeduke]

Also there's a PGDN key, but no PGUP. and i hate that

[@BenjaminWagener]

I would like to have fingerprint readers on all of my keyboards.

[@dfjab]

yeah that'd be great, doing it securely is another matter though.

[@xpodx]

​@dfjab what do you mean, your the only one with your fingerprint.

[@royk7712]

@@ImproveConditions not everyone is omniscient about encryption man

[@AndyJMacLeod]

I have Apple Magic keyboards, and I love the fingerprint sensors. No more typing in usernames, emails and passwords!

[@ansems3309]

I never understood this: Professional and 70%? I need the numpad. I can't work without the numpad.

[@neruwu]

That and no function keys either. Makes this completely useless imo

[@chutcentral]

​@femboy_nero Yeah, completely useless. Not like you can type with it or anything.

[@MST3.5]

I m architect with 65% keyboard. I m already used to no numpad already

[@neruwu]

@@chutcentral for me that's like looking at a car without a steering wheel saying "well you can technically still drive the car tho"

[@danielqiu7812]

Good news! Not everyone does the kind of work you do where a numpad is useful.

[@--_DJ_--]

One thing I learned this week using a tiny borrowed laptop at work for some "programming" is that I hate tiny (less than full) keyboards. I have wondered if I could live without my numpad, the answer to that is a resounding no.

[@profosist]

just gotta get good ;)

[@igoresque]

Separate numpad is good

[@NeoAcheron]

Numpad and a damn page up key, ever tried using a terminal without those?!

[@--_DJ_--]

@@NeoAcheron Other than delete, I rarely touch those 6 keys.

[@jordanb6025]

@@--_DJ_-- how do you live as a programmer never touching home or end

[@ELCrisler]

I want my Function keys for gaming. Of all the features you thing keyboards need, a silly image screen seems like one that is really not needed. Someone noted a better idea below, how about a biometric sensor.

[@ZumZumZarum]

With those thick bezels, they might have included the F row

[@_Doskii]

Would have been nice if you looked more at the software and what the screen can do.

[@redavatar]

Yes I have absolutely no idea what that screen is for other than being a gimmick. Can you make it display system info?

[@sunjames3276]

they dont have time for that

[@redavatar]

@@sunjames3276 Really? The screenshot AND the title are all about the LCD screen, it makes people click on it to discover what it does AND THEN THEY DON'T EVEN EXPLAIN? You can't say they have no time for that after they do all this! Also didn't they say they'd improve the depth of unboxings on ShortCircuit a while back after criticism of doing exactly this? It's getting to a point where these ShortCircuits only repeat specs you can find on a product page and little else of note.

[@squidwardo7074]

@@redavatar thats the whole theme of this channel. showing gimmicky shit that serves no real purpose

[@K-o-R]

They killed the PgUp key for something that could have been a side slide switch...

[@OptimusPrime420s]

I still use the Logitech G19. The screen feature was amazing, though through the dropped support, today its a bit lacking. Back in the day it was amazing. You could play KZbin Videos on it or put stuff like timers or photos. It could also display CPU usage natively. Had it been further developed, today this would be the most useful tool for PCs.

[@IRMacGuyver]

@4:30 you cannot upload peanut butter to a keyboard.

[@vincevanalphen]

4:31 It's GIFS not GIFS

[@governordog]

He pronounced it right. The creator of it named it after his favorite peanut butter jiff

[@xpertvis]

Dude has probably giant wide screen monitor on his desk, maybe two. But he definitely needs another tiny screen on all of his keyboards... No doubt about that.

[@kyjo72682]

You don't need a monitor if you already have one built into your keyboard.

[@kayonesoft]

Good ol Jraphics Interchange Format

[@popuptoaster]

I have a Mountain keyboard, that has 4 little screens on the detachable number pad and one on a detachable thingy that fits on the top.

[@touma-san91]

And you can buy Mountain DisplayPad to it that has 12 more screens.

[@duheful]

Plouffe, we need a keyboard roundup of your favorite keyboard at different price points (maybe every $100)

[@falrexion7709]

Logitech g19 had a screen and it's probably my favourite non-mechanical keyboard, though I wish they'd done a version with the extra keys on a separate pad so you could move them around/remove them

[@TBonerism]

With outer bezels that large and a target that includes professionals, there needs to be a Function Key row at the top. move stuff down to make room for it at the top

[@baundiesel]

Why does he say GIFs wrong? Is it a Canadian thing?

[@trbdann2]

I thought Plouffe already owned a display

[@batt3ryac1d]

My keyboard has a little black and white OLED panel that is pretty much completely useless I have a little cat gif on it. I love it.

[@thor.halsli]

What features can the display show? Fans, cpu, gpus, input delay, audio latency? Managed to talk about everything but the one reason people might buy this

[@SilvyReacts]

But what's the point of the little screen? I don't get why anyone would want that there lol.

[@jntrcs]

A sponsored short circuit vs a non sponsored short circuit is like the difference between Gordon Ramsey vs Mary Berry judging your cooking

[@marcusthegamer348]

Gotta love keyboard nerds inventing their own ways to describe the way a switch feels, ah yes, a very creamy switch indeed Plouffe

[@thehorsefromhorsinabout]

Sacrificing PG UP for a knob is pretty questionable. pg up, pg dn, and del are essential keys for me, rather they sacked ins, end or home. otherwise not too bad.

[@cormoran2303]

I still miss my old Logitech G15 with LCD display at the top where it's actually useful.

[@pies765]

Not a bad price, though I will never understand the love for smaller keyboards. I just want my space and numpad with good keyswitches

[@jGRite]

With all that chin space they could have threw the knob further up and to the right so it can have a page up button. Page up button is important, insert however.....

[@HolybasilYT]

Nevermind about the keyboard. Did he really just call a gif for a jif?

[@lescarneiro]

@UnjustifiedRecs It's the season of jifting after all, I look forward to all my jifts at tree as well.

[@ben.harnwell]

I know the 'inventor' tries to tell us this, but it stands for Graphic Interchange Format I don't say Jraphics ... @UnjustifiedRecs

[@BlastKast]

I've been aching for another keeb video. Great vid guys.

[@sbalget]

But what is the point of having a static screen there? Im never gonna look there, it would make way more sense if it could tell me system diagnostics or something. And why not make that a volume knob and have a separate switch for the different modes on the back? Nothing about this keyboard makes sense to me

[@caffeinezx4490]

It seems you forgot the part where you mentioned what use the screen has. Because it’s seemingly none.

[@FrozenFingers]

Could you make a video for really dirty environments, that are either really easy to clean while being low maintenance or that prevents food or other particulates from entering?

[@fenice319]

I don't like having a knob which stands out that much but doesn't have that much use, especially if won't move it around. It would be nice as to change volume. The price is great tho, I was expecting it to be like 150

[@nit-Inundate]

Very useful when switching between volume>rotate>zoom>brush size>panning etc. in media creation though!

[@kyjo72682]

@@nit-Inundate You know what's even more usefull? A *PgUp* key.

[@peanutismint]

@3:58 "What is that?" It could not be more simple, Luanne. You want me to show this to the cat, and have the cat tell you what it is? 'Cause the cat's going to get it!!

[@selectthedead]

I really don't understand the appeal of RGB with none shine through keycaps.

[@murphygg]

I've got an TH66 & I love the build quality for the price point

[@conanruisi]

These switches have been made by Nkk switches for YEARS. They have a kit so you can make a full keyboard with only screen switches. This could have been done for like 10 years

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

Royal Kludge makes a 87% keyboard with almost identical layout, but the screen is just black and white that shows just battery percentage, macOS/windows mode, and which device to select to when you’re switching between cable/BT/2.4ghz And that keyboard has volume controls with the knob in addition to switch devices

[@vaodinYT]

Very nice sound for a stock keyboard. Nothing could get me off my wooting tho it's just too good for gaming

[@chaver28]

i love having a full keyboard with numpad, its so good for productivity... also he called it a JIF!!!

[@Sizukun1]

I'm confused, is the little screen to have a tiny little piece of digital art on the keyboard at all times? What is it even for again?

[@ZacChilds]

What is the point of that screen? Yeah, you can put a linus face on it, but I can't think of any way it would ever be useful.

[@SlovakLegend]

if they had a full (I dont know if they do) I'd maybe look into it.... I like the sound of the switches

[@sheldonpetrie3706]

Now I can finally watch Oppenheimer in the way Nolan intended

[@segmentkings]

And not a bad word about the lack of page up? I am too old for this ****. ;)

[@matthiasredler5760]

Please review this old IBM Keyboard with the 122 buttons 😅

[@HaniiPuppy]

Why did they get rid of the page-up button? NO SCROLLING UP FOR YOU. ONLY DOWN.

[@zata3834]

4:30 bro really said jifs 💀

[@kaamoshaamu]

Instead of pure screen, that would work better as fingerprint reader.

[@ezgmystic6232]

Just picked up one for 65 they are on sale for amazon prime users couldn't beat it

[@JRCSalter]

Sooooo, what's the point in the screen? It just displays a picture? Not sure that's a good enough reason for it to be included. Seems like a massive gimmick to me.

[@nelsing1978]

I used to love my Logitech G19 and wanted to get something like it that is mechanical. But i have not really seen anything in a long time. I also want it to be full-size because i really want the numpad.

[@mechpilotace123]

Very interesting that the screen keyboard thing never caught on in the Logitech G19 days, but every new keyboard comes out with a screen on it these days. Also the G19 was one of the first Linus videos I saw back in the day.

[@Donnirononon]

I used to mod G19's by removing everything but the screen and adding physical Buttons as well as a 3d printed case. Basically a little screen with 12 macro keys. Sadly the LGS software is so godawful that I gave in and bought a Beada Panel and tbh I would never want to look back. Still have like 3 G19's in the basement and two Modded ones flying around. It is a great product but if one part of it is unuseable or damage the other one will be missed just too much. When it is seperated, you keep the display and get a new KB when you feel like it.

[@zmmmzmmmz]

Very interesting that the feature never caught on in the past, but now every keyboard in the future comes with the same feature from the past.

[@capability-snob]

Now that the Art Lebedev patent has expired, screens on each key might become a thing. Haven't seen anything that will do the job, though.

[@Modelero]

Don't you love when screw aren't hidden under rubber feets

[@Triflixfilms]

After the $1800 desk, I was surprised that this is reasonably priced. Good for them!

[@xpodx]

😂 Right? I'd rather have a 4090 ha

[@handymandy7326]

That was one of the shortest review video's I have ever watched from this channel

[@MindstabThrull]

Epomaker keyboard verdict - "Not the worst!" and "I don't mind it!"

[@Vending_Mecha]

If you love this, you'll love fluxkeyboard even more. Cant wait to purchase it

[@IcedForce]

I still prefer either Logitech G19 for the screen or the easier to get replacement, Logitech Arx Control which basicly turns any Android phone into Logitech screen. Combine that with AIDA64 and you have monitoring display.

[@c.horvath]

All of these keyboards sounds loud clicky AF, how can people bare these on the daily basis?

[@companyoflosers]

what exactly is the utility of the display other than just displaying pictures? they didnt really go over that much...

[@kevinryan2992]

Those bezels are enormous, it doesn't look any smaller than my 80%

[@TheCaniblcat]

I still want a KB with each key having a programmable LCD in it. Swap between languages or game icons on the fly without having to swap keycaps.

[@309electronics5]

It would be even nicer if the software would be opensource and run on like a rp2040 raspberry pi chip unstead of some unknown microcontroller running oem firmware. Then also a lot of programmers/devs can make awesome software for it and display complex things (and even doom or bad apple)

[@olwynskye417]

The screen just looks off because it's not aligned with the edges of keys, like someone just had an idea and made a hole for a screen in a random place.

[@gfcwfzkm]

Weird position for the knob, page up gone but page down still there? Useless low-pixel display instead of something useful

[@lp67O]

No numpad. No function keys. For enthusiasts and professionals in WHAT area?

[@PAPO1990]

yeah, I still miss the screen from my old Logitech G19

[@korishan]

"You can upload jifs" What about gifs?? jif = JPEG Interchange Format gif = Graphics Interchange Format

[@sety409]

Slinging more boards with that beanie i see. well quipped for the job.

[@glados_tc]

So it sounds as though there are several features of this keyboard that threaten all of mankind, but in the end are "not the end of the world".

[@grants7390]

the 1 thing i don't like is the built in battery. 2-3 rechargable AA's instead would help it to last much longer. because of that if your use case relies on it being wireless it will basically become E-waste once the builtin battery wares out.

[@commonfolk663]

Did I just watch a video about keyboard with screen and get 0 info on what screen can do, besides static image?

[@i3looi2]

The minidisplay is useless and the keyboard overall looks jank.

[@LE_SSERAFIM]

Very attractive keyboard. BUT ! No Func Keys No Volume Knob It's critical to me.

[@7shortofperfection]

If it's designed for professionals then it should have a 10 key.

[@nilsbottjer7129]

What in the world would you want a screen like that for?

[@Razor2048]

I wish they would make something more like the Logitech G510s even though it is a basic monochrome LCD, it is far more useful than that tiny color LCD display.

[@danieljclouthiergmai]

An old game called 'the typing of the dead' would love to see the differences score on diff keyboards.

[@itsmelegend1192]

I just got this keyboard on amazing for %50 off so only around $45, amazing keyboard for that price imo

[@yuricorrea2491]

I bought a Langtuo LT-104 for the screen and knob (the knob is programmable). I'd advise you guys to take a look at it.

[@Uppfattat]

Yay! my comment got noticed! xD Love your videos Plouffe! Also I'd love to see a speed trial where we actually get to see how fast you can type in perfect conditions (Maybe there is something like that somewhere that I've missed)

[@gsestream]

put e-ink displays under every transparent key cap, or on top in each key cap

[@swirlofsilliness]

Now we need a keyboard with a stream deck, finger print scanner, a display, and maybe even speakers???

[@ultraveridical]

No Page UP is a dealbreaker.

[@FaZekiller-qe3uf]

4:3 Don't you mean Gif?

[@ChronoXShadow]

My only complaint is the top and bottom bezels are wasted real-estate. Could have easily just put macro keys or media control buttons there. If they ever either slim down the bezels, or add an extra row of keys/buttons(like the f row), I'd definitely buy one, even if it's $100.

[@Rickynovantotto]

Just saying my epomaker th80 with Black gatheron is the best tech buy i have ever done (and I have done a few), highly recommended

[@craftercis]

Just wait till plouffe tries the FLUX keyboard

[@pocketlint82]

I've seen a couple keyboards now with, what I would call, useless knobs. The connection mode should just be a switch on the back and the knob be volume. How often are you going to be switching modes? Most people would never touch that knob after day one because it has a useless function. The screen is kinda cool but also a gimmick that doesn't do anything. Still cool it's there for that price though

[@user-mt4zr5kp7h]

Nice little keyboard, but I think that picture thing is stupid. It'd be nice if you could tap into, like, the CPU temperature or something and have it display on that little screen. But just uploading an image to be there statically, I think is kind of dumb. You could put a sticker on there and have the same thing.

[@Wombatzone31]

I wished Logitech made a mechanical G19s.... the screen was so useful for keeping an eye on system specs. Now using a Corsair K100, missed the system information screen so much I bought a 3.5inch system monitoring screen.

[@AuraMaster_7]

Why, though? I would rather have actually useful features on my keyboard, rather than a shitty little pointless low res screen in an awkward spot.

[@MrVoonix]

"They sponsored the video and want me to tell you what I think about the keyboard" ah yeah.