I want to love Apple, but they’re making it hard - Mac Studio SSD Swapping

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0:00 - Hey Apple!
0:53 - GlassWire
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1:15 - Unboxing the Mac Studio
2:43 - Teardown & PSU Suprise
5:05 - Not an SSD
6:54 - Flash module vs. SSD
9:17 - Putting the FU in DFU
11:00 - Can you Upgrade?
15:22 - Squarespace
15:57 - Outro

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Someone definitely got fired for not locking out power supply swaps.

[@knightsljx]

Nope, already got fired for making the power cable removable

[@OffitInfinity]

@@knightsljx Is this the same guy who was fired for the iMac Pro's memory not being soldered on?

[@irfanfauzi7082]

@@OffitInfinity exactly

[@UliTechMobile]

True kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJSUc5epp9NjipY

[@rkevic]

Is it the same guy that glued the digitizer chip on the iPhone 6 max along with bend gate

[@lavandulaangustifolia7902]

The Mac Studio was such an opportunity for them to finally become repairable and modular. They made the devices harder to repair on purpose, they were not constrained by thinness or performance issues. They just wanted the computer to be unrepairable.

[@xxnvytechxx6417]

Repairable = more money for them cuz you have to buy another one or pay a ridiculous amount of money for a sketchy repair

[@stevengoetz6773]

hold on! what's not repairable, the PSU is modular, and so is the flash storage? You can replace the storage with the same sized component, you just can't upgrade it. The RAM is part of the SOC and can't be made modular, and designing a socket for the SOC doesn't seem worth the expense. Not sure what else you were hoping for. It's plenty repairable.

[@rudymoralesjr]

Don't forget, their product announcement kept pushing how "modular" the Studio is. So not only is the product an antithesis to their previous repairability articles, they're misguiding consumers as well by misusing technical terms. Talk about false advertising, Apple style.

[@mathieul4303]

@@stevengoetz6773 🤨

[@MundaneThingsBackwards]

@@stevengoetz6773 Found one. 😏

[@teakodo]

Apple: We didn't include power bricks cuz enviornment. Also Apple: Oh your SSD died? looks like you need a whole new Mac

[@SmileFile_exe]

big companies or organizations only care about the enviorement if it benefits them

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

@@SmileFile_exe that's not even caring about the environment, that's just pretending to care while deliberately making things worse.

[@yosuaindonesia]

@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd hey i got idea to make every part in mac (including box, charger, walk to the store or even button) need subscription. So good for environment isn't?

[@peevpl]

nope, you just need new NAND modules...

[@pandemicneetbux2110]

@@SmileFile_exe Some of them are actively dumping barrels of toxic waste into endangered wetlands. Not everybody is doing that. If you're buying Apple you're literally contributing to destruction of the environment and child slave labour.

[@doqstudios3397]

I used to work at Apple as a hardware technician and I can't even begin to express how infuriating it was that I always had to use special software developed for internal use ONLY to solve issues like these. All their devices can theoretically be modified and repaired as you would normally expect, but they've made sure to lock everything so you NEED to use their own software and programs to make it work...

[@andrewk8636]

It would've been really cool if you leaked the software

[@user-nb3xu8yw6h]

@@andrewk8636 they d kill his family for that 😭😭😭

[@ermannoantonelli6545]

Using proprietary software to do maintenance tasks is not the end of the world, the problem is that are not available to general public. This is clearly a violation to the right to repair

[@josephgospa4031]

A Similar experience like yours here.

[@rigen97]

@@andrewk8636 it's easy to say "would be cool if you leak it" but the reality is if the source of the leak was identified, the leaker's career would be _fucked._ And you can bet that the leak would be identified because Apple had eyes on every pins of their microchips. yeah it would be cool while it lasted but it was a risk to someone's livelihood, risk that low-level technicians can't often afford.

[@gusramos3620]

We have reached the times when consoles have become more upgradeable than Macs.

[@mrld3005]

like the ps5 where a Blu-ray costs you 100 more?

[@SuperSlapek]

@@mrld3005 Well, I really don't side with Sony but I looked rn and BD drive with 4k capability does cost cca 100$ alone...

[@testedtech]

@@mrld3005 Well, I don't think it's exactly the same. PS5's are subsidized to be sold nearly at cost (at launch anyway...). You could easily argue that the drive-less model is actually FURTHER DISCOUNTED rather than the drive model being an 'extra' $100. Subsidized means the hardware is very cost efficient for the amount of power you get for running games because they are not trying to profit on their console hardware itself, sometimes even selling at a loss. There is a very good reason it makes financial sense for Sony to subsidize their hardware (to build a user base, and profit on the games and other). The further discounting of the drive-less model makes a lot of strategic sense because now they have a model with a notably ($100) lower price than their "full" model with the drive. The drive-less model forces consumers to buy digital content and games, which are more profitable for Sony and are not re-saleable as used copies. There is no packaging, middle men, and minimal distribution (only server and bandwidth costs, which DEFINITELY are cheaper than the overhead of selling physical copies). You could compare this to an imaginary scenario where oil companies sold 2 models of cars. One costs less, but uses more gasoline. They can sell the car cheaper and make up the cost with selling them gas. A console is primarily purchased to play games on, and without a drive, you MUST buy the more profitable digital versions of the game.

[@tampixena]

@@mrld3005 on a mac that option will be 1000

[@brunoais]

@@mrld3005 Or A Steam deck that doesn't care if it now has a 2TB SSD (which is never sold out of the box from Valve)

[@RaXXha]

Certified tech here: The SSD can be upgraded but the storage controller firmware in the SOC has to be reconfigured, this can only be done by booking a repair in apples systems and then entering a diagnostic mode allowing the mac to connect to Apples servers which will remotely install the configuration. And yes, I agree it's dumb. Edit: Theoretically they could probably enable people to do this at home since the entire update process is cloud based and only requires the user to enter the serial numbers of the new chips into their system. It works the same way for iphones, and they're going to enable self repair for those. Will they? Probably not.

[@disoriented3971]

I'm guessing this is because (due to the controller being in the SOC) the wear-leveling information, etc has to be reset. I wonder if there is some kind of pairing going on as well between SOC and flash.

[@Gregb05]

@@disoriented3971 Sure there's reconfiguration; wear metadata, rewriting keys, and so on, but why does Apple need its servers involved, and why does it work fine when you replace one of the same size?

[@datachu]

Amazing, so everything has to be cloud based now, even a firmware restore. For your own safety and security I'm sure, definitely not so that the machine is tied to a UUID tied to you so that everything you do can be tracked and sold by Apple... Same reason they blocked Facebook from tracking you on the iPhone.

[@RyanW914]

@@Gregb05 my guess is they are trying to prevent their config software from getting out into the wild to stop companies like OWC from making 3rd party replacements…..

[@schnuffelpuff3923]

@@disoriented3971it's because Apple is a shit company.

[@JB-zi3dr]

Love how I can easily add several 2 TB SATA SSDs to my 11 year old ASUS 6PTE mobo, but would be stuck with a meager 512 GB with this state of the art compact computer. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@michal_king478]

and the 2tb ssd costs less than the difference in price between the 0.5tb and 1tb mac. And the biggest spit in the face is how those arent even whole different SSDs in there but merely just flash modules soldered to a pcb. The production cost of one of them can not exceed 5 or 10 bucks

[@pavanbk15589]

Dont you think they planned a decade ahead to push people into cloud? :-D That's why they are doing this.

[@zoltanberkes8559]

State of the Art?

[@JahaJaho]

@@zoltanberkes8559 State of the art of ripping us off.

[@bigboldbicycle]

I replaced some flowers that have died in the garden, then the whole house stopped working, the locks, the toilet, the curtains all just froze up. I had to put the dead flowers back in for the house to work again. I now have the option to replace the flowers for $1,000 each by the builders or leave them alone.

[@Alias_Anybody]

I think the Apple cardboard engineers may be the best and most elite type of engineers they have. Just making it neat, practical, robust and eco friendly, no manpower wasted on actively making it worse.

[@tHaH4x0r]

Please don't give them any ideas...

[@Gren4te]

@@tHaH4x0r for what? Letting the cardboard engineers make the mac itsself? Don’t see where that could go wrong :Kappa:

[@MundaneThingsBackwards]

The manpower isn't "wasted." Unrepairable Macs sold to naive and ignorant consumers = massive profit. They can use their cheap ass Chinese slave labour to do the Louis Rossman stuff with access to all the original parts they could ever want or need and resell the fixed machines as 'new' OR make the entire process such a hassle that their more wealthy consumer base just says 'fuck it give me another one.' Full price.

[@MisterBunbao]

@@samapico Please stop providing nightmare fuel.

[@carlospoolquintal432]

The one division we should respect

[@killianhaugh3819]

Linus: you can switch the power supply Apple: we have made a huge mistake and our customers are in grave danger

[@hycron1234]

_Half expecting them to introduce a new feature where the product bricks itself the moment you open it_ 🙄

[@stephenv167]

@@hycron1234 don't give them any ideas....

[@scepter0143]

apple talking with news interviewrs: Our technicians have thoroughly .. this computer is very.. er yes it will not be possible to change the power supply on future mac os updates. And well security reasons... da yah the-uh system will not allow because ah- well we want to ensure da utmost security and performance for our users and ah- ah being able to change the power means .. is no good. Honestly apple just do better, there's no reason to lock down your tech except to give your repair shops more revenue - and apple fanboys can at least see this much

[@fredwupkensoppel8949]

In b4 Apple explains how dangerous it is that a PSU can be replaced by a user while completely ignoring that ATX PSUs are a thing.

[@Shimashimatchi_]

not that they really care xd

[@crazywarp36]

Apple in 2004: "Our Imacs only have 3 screws on the back so our computers are easy to open" Now: "Weld it shut or get fired" (they dont weld it but you get my point)

[@carlosdgutierrez6570]

Oh, they will eventually don't worry, it is not a matter of if but when.

[@mr.Drawgo]

Soldered ram.. I think they are doing it

[@scepter0143]

More people need to remember that teams of software and hardware engineers were paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to actively make the users' lives worse

[@MarcoAntonio-df7sl]

@@mr.Drawgo it's an arm device, so it's normal, however they've done to that Intel systems as well years ago

[@MikeLikesChannel]

FYI… they’re gonna do it even if customers make a stink. As history has proven. I was a Mac Genius for 7 years… you guys are discovering what we in the GR knew about the Fruit Co back in 2006 💚 Pre 2012 was a glorious time for Macs. Expandable RAM & storage, could pull the ODD and add a 2nd SSD… good times. Fast forward 10 years, they’re appliances.

[@lavandulaangustifolia7902]

They made such an effort to make it unrepairable.

[@kshitijvarshney]

And unupgradable and expensive

[@Kardall]

@@danielwalls5150 Looks like your SSD is faulty, we will have to replace the mainboard.

[@loidforger6413]

Welcome to monopoly.

[@leovang3425]

@@Kardall hey I've seen this one, I've seen this one, it's a classic.

[@unicodefox]

I'm waiting for my check in the mail from LMG for increasing their viewer engagement 😃

[@tobylegion6913]

Linus: "Confirmed. You CAN switch power supplies!" Apple: "Thanks Linus, chipping PSUs is a great idea! We haven't thought about that!"

[@BlazerRox]

They will totally do this, I mean, they put chips in their freaking lightning cables FFS

[@wibs0n68]

@@BlazerRox iirc most usb c cables are also chipped

[@HoLDoN4Sec]

lol they already do this with their iPhones: chargers, charging cables and batteries have chips in them that prevent you from replacing them with non-Apple ones or prevent you from using 3rd party chargers/cables without some major drawbacks.

[@TheLongDon]

@@wibs0n68 Not to determine validity though...

[@SimonBauer7]

@@HoLDoN4Sec man you gotta love android for that. being able to charge from whatever cheap ass cable you have laying around is awesome.

[@demagescod9657]

The biggest irony is that the number of people they prevent from doing this is so so small that they likely loose money by even spending the time to develop these protections and in place. Not to mention the customers they might have lost by doing so. They are literally costing themselves money by trying to make more money.

[@ErrorTH]

Nah, there is a ton of reasons to do this bullshit. * An actual economic reason: there is a market of buying and ripping devices for parts to sell them to repair shops. Of course it is cheaper, faster and easier than source them from Apple. * Stolen devices are especially nice to disassemble and sell as parts. It is an actual problem that apple can solve in this horrible way, but sadly don't. Hackers are always one step ahead. * Secure boot is a thing and it requires a chain of trust, aka locking EVERYTHING down in a most annoying way, so you can't compromise a computer even with physical access. It includes inability to add something new to it without wiping it.

[@sikz26300]

The recovery environment used to be stored on a partition of the boot drive. If swapping the flash module makes it unreadable it would make sense the recovery os is gone.... but they could drop a usb stick in there with a recovery os at least.

[@rossmanngroup]

I wonder if, by the time the repairability, upgradability, or serviceability of almost all modern devices is revealed to be zero to a majority of the population, it will be too late to do anything about it.

[@licht4808]

it already is too late. just dont use macos, build your own systems and slap linux/windows on it.

[@robonator2945]

I mean there are already competitors going out of their way to market for repairability and long term functionality. Fair phone, framework laptop, librem phone, etc. It's just a matter of getting consumers to actually value those features over flagship ones. (and I mean, they are staying in business now, so unless the market that goes out of their way to buy more repairable devices somehow shrinks, they aren't going under)

[@0b4y3mi]

@@robonator2945 one other problem is that the people who are into repairability are not the norm, so market is limited, and the "raparability" companies will have to do a fine balance between the price of device, the price of parts and the durability of their stuff to not extinct their own market by selling hardware that remove customers from the market instead of locking them in like the others

[@0b4y3mi]

@@robonator2945 I REALLY hope that the general public starts to the the appeal of it and the market grows big enough for it to not be a concern tho

[@robonator2945]

@@0b4y3mi You're right that it's not the norm, but the fact is I don't see how the current market niche will shrink. Companies like the ones I listed are factually profitable targeting a market niche that is unlikely to shrink, by that measure it's highly unlikely it will ever be "too late". The key is consumer education and EXPANDING the niche that cares about that sort of thing. Even regulation will inevitably just be bypassed through loopholes or whatnot, but if consumers simply don't buy non-repairable or non-consumer friendly products there isn't really a loophole in that so long as at least a few big groups are dedicated to educating consumers.

[@ElectroBOOM]

5:20 I thought it was better if the power lines connect before data lines, no? For ESD purposes, data lines are weaker, so I would prefer power lines to connect and discharge ESD before data lines connect. But you may prefer to live more dangerously!

[@maiomango]

Its the magic man!

[@thesixteenth]

...

[@kidcrumple2906]

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[@atridhar2226]

I agree with u Medhi but the rest of the producers don't follow it so they swapped it with the safety concern as u mentioned cause even if the repairilbility plan back fired they would have a safety sheild guarding their asses 😂 this is business boisss

[@vectorpacer2063]

they aren't as smart as you mr Mehdi man

[@sunnyxiong3560]

I just successfully "swapped" a SSD drive between two Mac studios(4TB vs 8TB). I struggled on the same issue but funny thing it turns out that I just need to change the original disk location and then it works out well(both units restore successfully after the swap). In stead of slot A to A swap, try slot A to Slot B swap.

[@shapelessed]

13:35 - In fact, there IS custom logic on the FLASH module. All these FLASH memory modules are proprietary! Each of them has a proprietary microcontroller that connects it the M-series SOC through a PCIe x1 interface.

[@Zeverinsen]

Honestly, when thinking about the environment alone, this kind of anti-consumer practice should actually be *ILLEGAL.* Repairing and maintaining products is *crucial* to reducing waste and pollution!

[@TheAvgJoeVlog]

Preach

[@robertt9342]

I am hoping that the OP actually lives their life in a way that reduces their environmental impact and does whatever they can to reduce waste and pollution.. Often It’s just a stupid but not inaccurate talking point thrown out by people who do nothing in their own lives to reduce their environmental impact and are just using this to rant against their most hated enemy, Apple. Most viewers on here buy products that are far worse for the environment and use them in ways that have little productive value.

[@cordellwanless5914]

@@robertt9342 his point is that apple is always trying to be sustainable but isn't in this case. It's a moot point if the consumer/commenter is or not - the point is apple continues to "try" to be (i.e. cardboard boxes, charging brick, etc), but still does this shit

[@cholesterol6703]

Don't confuse the Apple narrative with truth or common sense.

[@cordellwanless5914]

@@cholesterol6703 if that is in response to what I said I'm not quite sure what you mean

[@dumpsterdawg]

Linus: "There's no way Apple would do something this anti consumer would they?" Apple: "We can, We do, We will"

[@mbzuze]

"We must"

[@dh2032]

@@hotaru25189 I don't think apple think of there customer as customer, but members some sore of cult, with religious over tones

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Apple: "Are YOU Sure About That!"

[@PixelVogue]

BS! lol

[@Beastintheomlet]

Ever since that stupid cable being attached to the studio display there little I don’t think Apple would do any more.

[@jeremycoe7259]

Many thanks for the effort. Im awaiting my delivery for the Mac Studio 2Tb SSD. Should have watched your video before I order ...

[@FactsOverFear.]

I really respect Linus for standing for the customer. He stands with Louis efforts with right to repair and recently with the Filmora lifetime upgrades fiasco. Worth letting the ads play completely. 👏

[@rohan8721]

This is why right to repair is a necessary factor to prevent corporates from harassing the consumers. Even Steve Wozniak said that having the ability to repair products is what truly makes sustainability more of a practical approach. We need more consumer protective laws and ensure both the parties concerned come into a conclusion in this matter.

[@idkjuststop]

True, its just Cook being evil. If Jobs was alive he would never do that.

[@tellusmars7770]

I Have never own a Apple product. I recon I will not own one before I can tinker and upgrade my own property. The computer last longer when I can do that. Same goes for smart phones. I Love Apple for design and apps. But I am locked and have a feeling that I do not own my bought product.

[@ironcito1101]

Why do we need laws, though? It's easy to find out how serviceable a product is before buying it. If it's important to consumers, companies will take notice or they will lose to competition that does. If it's not important to consumers, why force it through laws?

[@Qwerty-tw7ku]

This repair stuff is bs, apple products are built with quality, a mac literally lasts forever and if you are that scared of a cube breaking then get apple care cover..., changing the ssd on a mac is dumb, if youre spending 2k on 512gb then im pretty sure these people can afford 2.2-2.6k for 2tb; it's all about choosing the right option not tampering with the internals and inserting lower quality ssds/iems

[@jakx2ob]

This is not really a r2r issue though. Which is why someone like Louis Rossmann doesn't see a big problem with it. I don't think it's good, in fact when you look under Louis' video you might find my comment poiting out that this is still anti customer and specifically to prevent upgrades.

[@otapic]

At some point I just expect Apple to weld everything shut and if you try to even open it to upgrade it, they'll send a special task force to shoot on sight

[@VideoArchiveGuy]

I've long advised that Apple should include a chip that includes a cryptographic key to decrypt the firmware that is erased instantly if the case is opened.

[@ohioplayer-bl9em]

😲

[@npc386]

too expensive for apple, a little c4 device is cheaper😁

[@indiansnowleopard]

My RAM is welded to the MOBO of my Macbook Air.

[@VideoArchiveGuy]

@@indiansnowleopard Yes, much faster and more reliable than socketed DIMMs and bridge chips.

[@WraithAllen]

In the 90's, I manages an academic department at a university what had all its faculty computers and lab computer as various Macintosh models. None were uni-box designs and all had easy to open cases (generally just either snap off with plastic clips, or a removable panel and the motherboard could be slid out to access). Both RAM and hard drives were accessible and each to upgrade, and there were a few third party products to upgrade with PowerPC processor boards in the late-90's... which we did for the faculty systems rather than replacing the systems completely. It was easy and we trained student workers to help do the upgrades. Wish Apple went back to that more consumer-friendly sort of design.

[@nyqa]

I'll be damned. After watching Linus for about 10 years, I think I'm gonna use the sponsor discount :) Give Glasswire a try 👌

[@TheProstig]

Fun Fact: There are debates in the EU to make it mandatory to label a device with Planned Ageing.

[@Hhhhhh-sz9ud]

Would be awesome. Even for stuff where the customers already know, it’s something different for it to have that label

[@TheProstig]

@J Hemphill I mean the apple software updates, that slow down the device. Not sure how exactly it's called

[@aidantrask9603]

Wow what a simple motivator. That could work. Like with foods that meet certain standards...

[@dennis4985]

​@J Hemphill Oh, I would have loved my samsung galaxy s5 if it had been "sabotaged" by android or new "expensive" features were basically restricted to still support the device the long way. But yeah...still using my Iphone SE and it works great without any lags at all...

[@Tanstattoo]

@@dennis4985 I tossed my SE in the trash, that phone......garbage. I'm about to toss my 11 pro in the trash too, I've noticed my financial apps are freezing, and It's driving me crazy. My pixel 4 has a faster shutter speed, the battery lasts longer, it does how ever do this strange thing where the screen will back out to the home screen on its own, on apple music.

[@nbest]

Apple: "We support the right to repair" Also Apple: "It's not like you'll be able to find parts"

[@lucasrem]

what did you try to install, SSD on a cable, what is it? Why you need Linus? specials?

[@Zydraxis]

also apple: only by our own hands and lots of money

[@kaiser2979]

@@lucasrem did you miss the part of the video where Apple intentionally made their SSDs incompatible with regular NVME drives simply so they could save a few bucks on the controller? Their goal is literally to upsell you on upgrades they went out of their way to modify so that the consumer could perform themselves, despite literally every other competing product allowing the user to upgrade that part themselves.

[@brakesforsnakes757]

💀

[@PlatinumEagleStudios]

@@lucasrem Quit defending Apples crap kid. Also learn some fucking grammar too. You talk like you're still 9.

[@meskarzeczvlog]

I was really keen to order a MacBook recently and just got my chill pill by watching this. Thanks 😂

[@gregfreeman1341]

This is why I took your advice in 2021 and bought one of those 14 core i9 processors (they were in China on Ebay) along with a Gigabyte x299-ud4-pro motherboard and turned it into a hackintosh. I'm sure it's not as fast as an M1 (it hits 10k on geekbench) but I put two nvme drives in and just added another 1 tb SSD to it that's attached to the case. I did have some snags though adding the SSD... The nvme drives turn off the 3-4-5-6-7 data connectors so I was forced to plug it into either the one or two data connector. And the little side mounting brackets on the corsair case were a joke so I just stuck the SSD to the side of the case with some sticky tape.

[@todortodorov940]

Apple made some huge mistakes: 1. PSU is swappable. 2. Power cable is removable. 3. PSU is removable - it should be soldered. 4. Power cable does not contain lock-chip and can be swapped.

[@cisco20211]

Chill. They get the idea one day

[@LetsNotBeHasty]

Hahahaha....yeah people getting fired for it as we speak

[@NTN_music]

5. USB-C cable should be chip locked to special devices

[@user-sw1wq8lh2w]

Apple should just make a computer that is an all in one, plug it into the wall, everything else is on board. Including keyboard, mouse, screen, speakers

[@NTN_music]

@@user-sw1wq8lh2w soo, a laptop

[@xoai00]

Imagine if a construction company who built apple's building made proprietary outlets, door locks, and light bulbs, etc. Then when ever apple need to plug in something, make keys for doors, or change a light bulb they have to pay the construction company to send in a tech to do those thing for them....because apple logic.

[@TheDustyShed]

Sell them a overpriced dongle.

[@codyhubert6178]

This is pretty close to how the government buys contracts and spare equipment. Outlets aren't proprietary but keys for doors/changing light bulbs requires contracted companies to source them.

[@rkadi6540]

I would gladly design the new interlocking mechanism for their door, windows, light bulb housing, even the electricity socket

[@PsyrenZero]

Sounds like the McDonalds Ice cream machines.

[@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587]

and if a door gets stuck shut and becomes a fire safety hazard, they can't just get someone to repair it, they have to pay the construction company smh. imagine a fire happens in the meantime 💀

[@breakhart]

I think even Apple authorized, or whatever they called it, won't able to upgrade it either. because if I'm not mistaken the capacity need to be known by the controller, which is not in the modules but in the M1 SOC. that's perhaps they give second slot for, so you can add more capacity if you want, and other reason would be they push you to use Apple iCloud storage

[@dominikbehr2863]

capacity, number of flash modules is probably hardwired on M1 and the dram cache or maybe embedded cache in flash controller is also determining number/size of flash modules you can have.

[@CrankstaWho]

I worked for AppleCare for a while a few years ago and it's like this for everything- not just the hardware but the internal SOP's are designed to screw you at every opportunity. I'll never forget the call I had with a customer who had spent $1500 on a Certified Preowned (from an authorized vendor) 2018 MacBook Pro for school and ran into the butterfly keyboard issue. Fun fact: anything preowned is marked AS IS in big bold letters on our screen as soon as you pull up the serial. What does AS IS mean in Apple? "Not our problem." Even for confirmed, warranty issues. This series of keyboards was confirmed to have an issue and was advertised ON OUR SITE to be covered for repairs on anything to do with it. This chick had bought a CERTIFIED PREOWNED (for nearly the price of a new one mind you) that had APPLE'S STAMP OF APPROVAL ON IT buuuuuttttt because someone had bought it before her, all warranties were bucked. At that moment, I decided I would never buy an Apple product in my life- they don't care as long as they got their money out of you.

[@kael13]

Had she only just bought it? That kinda thing is covered by warranty here in the UK. For 12 months, if I recall correctly.

[@CrankstaWho]

@@kael13 Sale was in the US, and the previous owner of the device had it for two days, the lady I served had it for a few months, but less than half a year. I escalated it as far as I could and everyone had the same response "It's an as is product, so she'll need to pay $800 to have the warranty issue fixed or buy a new one herself." It was awful.

[@chinmaybapat6774]

@Leah Hensch Respect!

[@jasonlowmaster]

So Certified Preowned just means it was working when they sold it? Sounds about the same as buying from anybody on the street as long as you see it working before you pay. Apple sucks in so many ways.

[@pwnmeisterage]

This story is common with "open box", "refurb", "as-is", "previously owned" electronics from anywhere these days. Apple, Samsung, Amazon, Newegg, etc. At least for normal consumers, anyhow.

[@robertt9342]

Honestly, I am really disappointed with Apples limitations. Adding/replacing storage should be a minimum.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I think every computer should have at least one internal port that can be user populated. And M.2 is a good approach for that. It's not only for storage, there are also wifi or bluetooth modules. Just like the old PCMCIA slots on laptops or ISA/PCI/PCIe in desktops.

[@johnmurcott1273]

Especially for the goddamn price

[@zadsazhad]

Even laptops are upgradable for memory and storage, even some of em can be swap out the gpu and ports...this freaking metal brick can't do the modularity part even the easiest one

[@Larslegos]

It's not a flaw, it's intentional. That's what makes this a big deal, Apple shouldn't get a pass because of their own weaponized incompetence. The argument that Apple doesn't actually know what they're doing is completely false. They know exactly what they're doing and it won't change unless people make them change it.

[@lancelindlelee7256]

I'm not disappointed. Never expect anything and you will never be disappointed. You can never really expect any pro-consumer move from Apple.

[@JmC023]

Once I partitioned a higher capacity drive to work from the original HDD to an SSD (120 GB t0 512 GB SSD) on an Apple and it worked! Perhaps partitioning and installing on that partition original size might work then resize in the OS or keep separated as an additional drive.

[@MarcoAntonio-df7sl]

Arm is harder to work with, even android devices are, but the tools are everywhere and runs on windows and Linux

[@2010perc]

Ahh the reason why I'm still using my 2009 flashed to 5,1 Mac Pro.. works like a dream

[@epychan922]

it really says something when you can upgrade storage on a console that's locked down to hell but not on an overpriced mac

[@shadowkomet7180]

Sony and Microsoft also tend to list skus of compatible drives, which usually starts with -- what already exists at the time of sale. The exception of the PS2 was caused by Western Digital moving their power and IDE slots where no one else was using them... SATA standards fixed that issue, and M.2 is now there where there is the SSD standard and the Peripherals standard (because there are M.2 Wifi and Bluetooth cards). ...and remember that Microsoft is more originally a computer tech company... (also Sony MemStick is um... dead... lesson learned. (a second time -- Betamax))

[@xCokeMaanx]

You can’t at the moment with the series X. There is a third party SSD Converter for series X/S but I haven’t seen a video of one of those working.

[@drakethedragon457]

Sony's Memory Stick Duo was really only meant for the PSP which was done to a similar way to what Apple is doing with their storage, making customers buy shitty low storage cap Cards for stupid prices, that's way it's dead

[@arisusanchez]

@@drakethedragon457 no they used those shitty sticks in some of their cameras as well, anything sony had they liked to use their own memory sticks which made life pain

[@alsims2007]

@@drakethedragon457 memory sticks and whatever the vita's storage was called made some sense. still dumb but everyone was super concerned about piracy of digital content. but look where that gets you. it stopped nothing on the psp and part of the reason the vita failed was because of the expensive proprietary storage that still stopped nothing.

[@DS-pk4eh]

Apple is making a killing on upgrades. Apple is clearly anti-consumer, however their marketing and brand recognition is so strong, that the very people that they are screwing are defending them like there is no tomorrow. It is just sad.

[@SevenSixTwo2012]

Yup. There's a name for these people : brand cucks.

[@tk9839]

They are so under its spell...If Apple put its logo on a pile of shit, its slaves would probably eat it up..,

[@jamesboggs5735]

and enter one of those defenders 😂. Apple has a philosophy. To make great software, you have to make your own hardware. I've always been a PC enthusiast and enjoyed upgrading parts. The problem is that Windows frequently crashed. A lot. Usually driver conflicts from various manufacturers. I now have a Mac Mini M1. Sure I can't rip it open and add a new Wifi card or RAM module...but it's never crashed. Not once in the six months since I've switched. Add that to the fact I really never have to worry about malware or viruses... I'm sold. Maybe it's just something that happens when you get older, but I don't I don't want to rip open computers just to add upgrades that don't work because of driver conflicts anymore. I just want something that works for my needs and so far Mac excells at that. I use to blame Windows, but you can't expect an OS manufacturer to make sure their OS works with every third party peripheral, or expect peripheral manufacturers to ensure their peripherals work with every other peripheral on the market. That's why Apple adopted the philosophy to build their own hardware. Yes, they still use third party suppliers for stuff, but very much under their own quality control. Enjoy your blue screens of death that you get from the freedom to mix and match hardware. The time I save from not dealing with that crap anymore has made my M1 Mac a very worthy investment and I can understand why Mac doesn't want to get the same reputation Windows has by allowing consumers to mix and match hardware willy nilly causing OS crashes.

[@JeyAnirudhJekka]

@@jamesboggs5735 tell me you don't know how to install drivers for hardware without telling me you don't know how to install drivers for hardware also, your mac can't run most games which is fine if you're not a gamer but as long as gaming exists, windows will still rule. Mac is like a golden cage. It is nice, but still a cage. No freedom to experiment with.

[@CSGO_POV_VIDEOS]

@@jamesboggs5735 I work on windows. 0 crashes in 3 months. 1 crash in 6 months. I can make my OS to be the way I want. Everything is the way I want. You can't do that on Mac.

[@simonmuranja2426]

Cool edits man. You are a true icon and an artistic icon!

[@gforever1000]

We all appreciate your voice in this Linus, thanks for that.

[@Crunchy415]

Apple: our all cardboard packaging shows how green of a company we are! Also Apple: throw out your entire $3000 computer when you run out of 512gb storage.

[@atlehassum1492]

That price is nauseating

[@Skrenja]

The fact that they even sell computers with less than 1tb of storage is hilarious.

[@jadamsnz]

What an over simplification this statement is. It's a desktop with multiple Thunderbolt ports so nothing to stop a user adding external drives that will be damn fast. It also has a 10Gb Ethernet port so connect it to a NAS for bulk storage is another possibility. Only and idiot throws out a computer because the HD is full, at worst they sell it. Your statement is slightly more relevant in relation to RAM though where you don't have an upgrade path but even then, only an idiot would throw it out.

[@SaddisticSpeller]

@@jadamsnz Tim Cook alt account spotted.

[@0cyb3r0]

​@@jadamsnz Yes, because the average Apple enjoyer would go out of their way to build their own NAS. The people that are notorious for prefering ease of use over upgradability and customisation. Best they'll do is put on some external HDDs/SSDs, but even then the point of this mini pc is to have a small clean pc somewhere nice, not have stuff hooked up to it all the time.

[@darkroast9907]

These kinds of anti-consumer practices should be called out, loudly, every time. Just like when Apple's butterfly keyboards required replacing the WHOLE DAMN LAPTOP every time a key got stuck (which was all the time).

[@BufordTJustice42069]

Best way to call them out is to stop buying their shit.

[@awayfrommydeskjc]

@@BufordTJustice42069 Agreed - I don't know why we keep talking about apple. All the advice should just be: "don't buy apple, it's bad mmmmkay"

[@damnfreakingsien]

It’s because apple design things with a strong set of user requirements in mind, and unfortunately, repairability is not one of them. If the keyboards are easily swappable it might result in in a bulkier design which is not very appealing. To be fair, they make up for it with really good service. I rmb swapping batteries for my iPad. Instead of swapping the batteries directly, they replaced the entire iPad. All at the cost of just the battery replacement. But yeah, I do agree that apple needs to improve repairability. They’re basically creating a repair monopoly.

[@platinumdynamite]

@@BufordTJustice42069 If Macs were bad, sure - but the fact is they're incredibly useful devices with a fantastic ecosystem of support. They seem to be turning a new leaf on hardware, albeit slowly.

[@severgun]

@@BufordTJustice42069 Main issue that EVERY OTHER brand will do the same and you end up in situation where you buy or go away with nothing at all. Such things must be regulated by law.

[@Vortex001_MLG]

YAY! Video’s back up, I missed this

[@scottschaelling9371]

Thank you so much for making this video 🙏

[@Time-yo5mw]

This wave of anti-repair, and anti-upgrade changes should be downright illegal. It is so close to extortion in my mind and it honestly makes me want apple to crash and burn.

[@computernerdtechman]

Easy fix, DON'T BUY APPLE!!! Vote with your cash.

[@noahd.4551]

It's not just Apple though, this is slowly creeping into other devices as well.

[@computernerdtechman]

@@noahd.4551 That's why it is more important than ever that everyone boycott Apple products to let the rest of the industry know that consumers reject this type of draconian behavior.

[@arson2847]

ikr im almost gonna switch to a google pixel ngl

[@GabrielRM]

I mean, Apple has been doing this since day one. Nothing has changed, they have gotten away with the most ridiculous stuff since forever. History keeps repeating itself and people will forget once their new product comes out after a few weeks. Just don't get yourself into their ecosystem and you'll be fine, let other people deal with their bad choices.

[@flos251]

Linus: "You CAN switch power supplies!" Apple: "Lock it, lock it!!"

[@killershark90]

they're designing a logic chip for their powersupply as of an hour ago lmao

[@Appri]

@@killershark90 source?

[@killkiss_son]

They finally request the help of the cardboard packaging team , who gently responded '' *fuck you Apple* " 😂

[@akilreid2235]

@@Appri "trust me bro"

[@seryal]

@@akilreid2235 chill, it was probably a joke

[@russlikely1137]

I’m 55 and I have no idea how to use a computer or fix one. But somehow your videos landed up in my feed and I’ve been watching you for years I have no clue why but you’re pretty funny😃

[@ilikeitwhatisit]

Do you think the power supplies have any effect on the high pitched sound some mac studios make? Since you have both variants, can you say if you saw any difference in noise between the two computers? Mine's whistling and I'm getting it replaced.

[@CosmicInfinity]

I like how simple things like swapping out an SSD on a c̶o̶m̶p̶u̶t̶e̶r̶ mac has to be a dedicated video. Thanks Apple, very cool.

[@VorssaGaming]

Its so ridiculous that he lives in society where he HAS to say he want to love a company wich support forced child labor and year after year are caugh of it.Nothing happens.Consumers are retards so this is what it is.I think Linus is a product of our society, another nerd who has given popularity in exchange of his biggotry.

[@marcel151]

It's not an SSD. It's just the flash.

[@yannrampitsch6678]

@@marcel151 but they also make ssd upgrades impossible... (just not on this specific device, ie their laptops)

[@sboinkthelegday3892]

A Mac is a computer. An abacus, is a computer. Personal Computer is the IBM trademark.

[@TheByrd]

Is something wrong with my phone or is the text on this comment messed up?

[@nickyborrill8074]

This just makes me have even more respect for Valve and companies like them. It was so easy to upgrade my 64gb steam deck to 512gb... And cost me much less than the price difference between their own SKUs

[@ucnguyenminh9393]

Well to be fair the 512GB Steam Deck has other features too!

[@jonatinoo]

What drive did you put in? I was under the impression the 64gb wasn’t upgradeable, this is great news!

[@producerevan88]

@@jonatinoo 100% can upgrade the storage quite easily. All sku's have the m.2 slot!

[@destinyhero4795]

Gigachad Valve : we will support windows 10 or possibly 11 also we collaborate with Microsoft to enables gamepass on your steamdeck.

[@wta1518]

Valve also isn't a publicly traded company, so they aren't legally required to provide maximum shareholder value at all times.

[@nickp.4915]

Still a 22 year IT professional proud to have never knowingly given Apple a single dollar of my money. I possess two apple devices, one phone (I think it's a iPhone 10, honestly I'm not sure) owned by my employer that they assigned to me and force me to carry every day, the other an older i-pad (also not sure what model) that was also assigned by same employer that was connected to the cellular network as a tool for us to use for a while that when the company decided to cut cellular costs they cut the cell service and told us to keep the ipad as our own. So I guess I OWN one Apple product, an aged IPad that I literally use as a Wifi connected PDF reader in the garage when I need to reference documents\manuals etc while working on hobby projects. Think I have used the IPad 3 times in the past five years hahaha. Anyway, Apple's philosophy toward their "customers" over twenty years is exactly why I don't see myself ever supporting Apple. For them it's ALWAYS a "money grab" and lock-down routine, just not interested. I guess one day if they make something exponentially excessively insanely cool that I just can't live without that *may* change, but until then I have been more than joyed to not give them my money...

[@markhollis5850]

I bought the M2 Ultra with the 8T SSD. So, it is fully-populated. I paid a lot for the large SSD but it does contain the overprovisioning that I am hoping will allow my Studio to last. But, before I bought it, I asked the Genius at my Apple Store if they could replace my SSD. I did not ask if they could upgrade it. They told me that the Stores do stock the NAND cards and are prepared to replace them if they go bad. It was then that I felt okay with ordering mine.

[@frankunderbush]

Tim Apple: We have reduced packaging waste! Also Tim Apple: ...But we are producing a hell of a lot more e-waste

[@thioga1]

Paper boxes are cheaper to make so don't be fooled.

[@alexcrouse]

@@thioga1 and their boxes are massively heavy compared to competitors... because they use more material.

[@pirojfmifhghek566]

"Problem with your computer? That's yesterday's problem! The solution is to upgrade** to our BRAND NEW 2023 M2 Mac Studio!" "**Trade-ins not accepted at this time."

[@hedonistic_mushroom]

In the rest of the industry, the idea of repairability has always implicitly included the concept of upgradability. Apple's idea of repairability on the other hand has always meant, "can be repaired... by us... when you give us more money". Also Apple's idea of Pro-consumer is, "Make the consumer more of a consumer... by giving us more of their money."

[@rolerroleris533]

Not even that when you give them money... Like when LTT broke one of the imacs and they refused to fix it, even when offered money. What if you also try to tinker with your stuff and break it, and apple just refuses to fix it for you and says to buy a new one? I'd bet that already happened to some people.

[@drakethedragon457]

If that happens i'd buy Samsung's products instead

[@nextlifeonearth]

@@rolerroleris533 to some people? It happens every day.

[@floydmorgan7739]

This happens all the time, Apple either won’t fix it or they will for almost the exact same price the device cost new. You can see this in action by watching a few of Louis Rossmann’s videos.

[@pirojfmifhghek566]

Yeah, pretty much. In the PC hardware world that shit wouldn't fly for a goddamn second. Why? Because all of the computer hardware is modular. With the rare exception of suuuuper crappy, cheap, enterprise OEM computers, the hardware is all swappable and drivers are freely available from the manufacturers. Even in the case of that bizarre Dell computer with the wonky motherboard with the weird backend that stuck out of the case, you could still remove all of the components, put them onto another brand of motherboard with the same chipset and it'll work. You have to really dig to find a desktop system that is completely non-modular like this Apple Studio is. Hell, I challenge anyone to find a non-Apple desktop computer that won't allow you to swap out the storage drives at the very least.

[@josephbohme7917]

Again I have space but mine is rectangular, each and every room is that way, even the closets. You do get the most space from the smallest perimeter with a square especially when making a house etc. The Italian Block chalet of old two - 3 story with terrace on top. But the house with a dog leg , flag and channel are such great shapes to use for a home. So I have no Square spece.

[@upmuxin]

Maybe there would be a way, in the future, to kind of "jailbreak" those and upgrade may be possible.

[@morgan1168]

I didn't know Linus knows my Grandmother. She knitted me the same cap for Christmas. Wonder if he got the matching socks.

[@dynxmit3official920]

There is a very good reason as to why I never switched to a Mac. This video just hammers the nail into the coffin. I love having control over a product when I buy it and I as consumer should be free to do whatever tf I want with that product.

[@crowdemon_archives]

Custom PC with more power and compatibility for a fraction of a Mac!

[@steezmuffin]

@@crowdemon_archives What PC has the same performance for this type of work for a fraction of the cost? Say what you want about the upgradability but its been proven time and time again their computer pricing isnt much higher than comparable PCs

[@snowysysadmin59]

especially when its NUMEROUS grand of a product

[@Servidor_Publico_do_Ancapistao]

@@steezmuffin literally any good pc for that kinda of work. Just research the parts you need and you done.

[@steezmuffin]

@@Servidor_Publico_do_Ancapistao No this happens every time you guys just say stuff like that but cant actually post anything that can hit the same benchmarks for that much cheaper.

[@it_is_random]

it was already crazy for you to tell about your sponsor

[@robertwahlstrom]

Can also add that pretty much all Mac computers use their own unique format from hard drives and it's not even the same for all Mac:s. It's actually varies over time.

[@paulbrooks4395]

They made the SoC, the mainboard, firmware, OS, and specced out the specific design for the flash modules and then had someone fabricate the hardware the way they wanted. It’s all intentional, and their system isn’t special. They want the repair money-all of it, and they don’t care about doing what’s best for others.

[@NotThatEpic7492]

I hate it when companies don’t listen to their consumers. Apple is just being greedy right now. That’s not right. I really want Apple to listen to the consumers, not just for profit.

[@yuxuanhuang3523]

​@@NotThatEpic7492 Apple will only stop doing this bullshit once there is actual competition. Sadly no SOC could match theirs yet. Some of it is probably due to custom designs that make it incompatible with normal SSDs like the integrated controller because the M1 might not use PCIE(just a guess). But there is no reason for them to not have a few resistors that code how much flash they have (to swap the capacity and brand of RAM you have to move around the resistors) or just make firmware accessible to everyone.

[@amunak_]

@@NotThatEpic7492 It's hard, those consumers are exactly who Apple caters to - people who *want to* be shafted. Not people like you and me. People who specifically like the fact that they can buy an overpriced device as a status symbol, show off their wealth, and have the security that no cheap scrub will be able to buy or repair such a device. They would never learn how to fix it themselves regardless, and besides; when it breaks they buy a new one, they don't want it repaired.

[@fssbd5010]

@@amunak_ kek,alot of Mac users are developers, creators .Cause Mac has made it really easy to do stuff on it

[@zyiezyie]

No, they don't want the repair money. Time and time again, they've proven that they want you to buy a new product once your old one fails. If you absolutely want to repair anyhow, it's going to end up costing you almost the same as buying a new product anyhow. A $5 chip broke on the motherboard? Nope, ain't fixing that, you're gonna have to pay $1500 for a new motherboard, or spend $2000 on a new computer. Most people are dumb enough to buy a brand new computer instead. Of course there are repair shops that will fix your motherboard for a lot less, but Apple is doing their best to make sure all important parts are either hardware locked (so you can't swap certain chips from one Iphone to another one for example), or impossible for repair shops to buy, so there'll be no other option than to heavily over-pay for a repair, or buy a new computer/phone/whatever. I don't see how Apple can pretend to care about the enviroment, when they are actively doing everything they can to make sure none of their products are ever repaired, they just have large parts of the product completely replaced, or they just claim it's impossible to fix and even claim that anyone who says that they can do it, are a scam, despite the fact that a lot of the things that are "unrepairable" according to Apple, is still fixable. Apple are just actively doing their best to increase the amount of e-waste, while proffiting from selling even more products cause people aren't getting them repaired. They're directly profiting from harming the enviroment.

[@Admire]

I love when Anthony gets excited

[@glennshumaker2019]

We have a Mac at our church that we use to stream our service. I was never a Mac guy, had my fill of Apple with my cell phone an Apple I Phone 3G which Apple had full control over what I put on it, I didn't like that, no MP3s or music from other sources, it didn't last long. The Mac we have is a grey box half the size of the Studio. I started computing with Windows and haven't used Mac. I am trying to learn the os when I can. One thing that I cant wrap my head around is the heat that this thing puts out When in operation it gets very hot and stays that way when in use, it sits in the open with plenty of air around it. I don't see how the thing is still running, most components that we use use in our Win machines don't get hot because of active cooling, if Win components ran that hot they would fry, I guess one day I'm going to see this thing smoking, don't really like Apple anyway.

[@brunocomerci893]

Imagine being an Apple engineer... your job is literally taking the best of the new technologies and making it worse for everybody, except their shareholders.

[@derekp9737]

that tells you what kind of a shitty company apple is...

[@ravenwings7945]

Apples not making anything new

[@Heliosvector]

I think it’s got to the point that this is now actively hurting their growth. I would recommend this product MORE if it allowed upgradability. This is geared towards professionals that will be editing raw photo and video data. You can fill a TB in just one day of filming now. Especially at 8k. It’s pretty inexcusable that you cannot upgrade it later as your needs grow.

[@AbdulRasyidPangrango-qr9dt]

most of them probably didnt care, after all they got paid a lot

[@user-yb3ui7wo6v]

@@ravenwings7945 I don’t know if M1 isn’t revolutionary,, then what is?? Androids new OEMs are revolutionary right??

[@BreakingPintMedia]

4:59 - The very moment Timmay, former PSU security lock chip developer at Apple, lost his job.

[@harveylong5878]

so did the poor slob that designed the rubber feet and the guy that didnt epoxy over the screw heads to make removal a destructive task

[@prodbyjonny]

Haha

[@michaelscarola50]

Excellent video! What monitor is that in the video? Is it 4K or 5K?

[@jacklewis5394]

Sometimes I impress myself with how much I can remember but for some reason I have to think extra hard when watching ltt

[@thesquiddy2273]

i was literally in 6th or 7th grade and took apart my laptops (HP and Dell) without doing any (significant) damage. most people are capable of repairing their devices if companies don't pull an "Apple" like here.

[@thecon_quererarbitraryname6286]

The problem is that apple continuously pulled an apple and had success and many other devices from other manufacturers became less repairable in the process.

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

The worst is that they used to be a lot more upgradeable. They used to use standard SATA drives even in laptops!

[@IraQNid]

I went into an Apple store out of pure curiosity having never been in one before. It looked okay at first. Mostly tables of sparsely populated thin & lights, tablets, smartphones. What drew my attention was this model. I got to talking with one of their sales reps who told me there was no way for an owner or an Apple repair tech to open it up after it had been bought. That I had to choose exactly the amount of RAM and storage ahead of time because it is soldered shut after being populated. No way to add upgrades, no way to fix something when it eventually will break, you're stuck with whatever you buy starting at two grand! He had a hard time telling me that too because he knew it was a total bullshit flawed design. I let him know that on the Windows PC side of things we can buy lower end machines to upgrade over time as we desire. So I looked around the room and instantly saw a new angle from Apple. Selling high cost junk to devotees who will never leave them for better technology. After that I just walked out of the store with no reason to ever investigate Apple PCs again.

[@megumin4625]

Damn. I would've replied, "So the engineers who designed this weren't smart enough to even make it repairable by their own company techs? Even companies who make Windows machines are capable of designing theirs to do that, and for much less. That's sad"

[@Adams4000]

I warn people all the time, Apple products are made for people who have no interest in knowing anything about their product. It is designed to be thrown away. I have personally fixed every problem I had with my PC, from viruses to power supply failure. I will never own an Apple product if I can help it.

[@stickiedmin6508]

@@megumin4625 That's the problem. Those engineers were easily smart enough to make the stuff they designed repairable - it was decided, however, that they should *_not_* do that. The designs requested of them however, were carefully built the idea that they *_not_* be repairable. It was a corporate decision, not engineering failures that made Apple machines the way they are now.

[@michaelandrews4783]

Quite an accurate summary, Apple are scum, I remember you could boot an apple pc off an external drive in the past even if the internal drive failed and thought that's neat , now if the internal drive fails it's a brick they are literally going backwards.

[@icarojose6316]

Not anything is upgradable in a windows notebook. Apple probably got the same inspiration and made nothing upgradable.

[@lesprice255]

I have worked with PC's since 1994 and my first operating system was OS2 and from day one i had decided it was not for me so i switched to windows 3.11 and from then on I have suffered only 3 system crashes due to hard drive failures, done numerous re-installs and still it works. Each re-install took only a couple hours from start to finish at most, I was then asked to repair my niece's apple hard drive and the bloody thing took nearly a week to track down the files needed to fix it due to apples stance on only our team can do it, in the end I got it done and advised her to get rid of her apple stuff including her phone and go over to the dark side of windows and android she has not regretted doing so and apple have lost another customer due to their greed?

[@saikiqxz]

Good thing Jonathan exists. He can love it as it is

[@Rotwold]

I really hope EU regulators will put their focus on stuff like this in future legislation.

[@littlejackalo5326]

Apple has no backbone. The EU has absolutely no business interfering with an American company's business. If Apple wasn't run by diversity hires, and they had some balls, they'd tell the EU to go effoff. Apple is a bigger corporation than the entirety of most European countries. Apple is trash, but not as trash as the EU.

[@legathus]

We know US regulators won't. It's "funny" how we can just assume that the US legislation process is hopelessly corrupt and skewed towards anti-consumerism, and nobody will argue otherwise. Everyone will just instead say, "I hope the EU saves us."

[@StratOFerus]

Technically, it's illegal in France already to have stuff like this. But it should be a european law in general as well, I agree. And although I'd love it to also be a thing in the US... we all know they aren't gonna push that.

[@ezadoo]

Then Apple will solder them on the board instead. I don’t think something like that is forbidden by law, so you would have to buy a complete new Logic-Board. And if that is forbidden, Apple could integrate it completely in the soc.

[@megapet777]

​@@ezadoo well just got to keep making new laws, until it's completely repairable easily.

[@shakdidagalimal]

14:55 Now that is real, I am ticked as well. Also gunning the local apple machine. Monkey see, techie do.

[@toujisuzuhara01]

And to think, in 1998, the Apple G3 had a lever to open the side of the computer to access the board, 4 extra slots for extra ram and 2 extra place for drives with a removable front panel so you add disk drives there. I never played in a computer before the G3 and I never really did again. A toddler could upgrade the G3.

[@_Lurker_]

Man I wish everyone else in other fields can explain things in such a simple effective way while still keeping it very entertaining.

[@pirojfmifhghek566]

You know what I really appreciate? Linus' ability to show real indignation and rage on our behalf, while still being clear and concise about what makes this kind of engineering a consumer nightmare. The gloves are off.

[@leonro]

@@pirojfmifhghek566 True, it's way too often that you find youtube videos on such controversies either end up turning into incoherent rants or become so passive in attitude that you feel like it has nothing to do with you. This here is a good balance of a cool-headed analysis of the situation with the occasional indignation thrown in at the discovery of unnecessary steps, with a final message summing up everything that we shouldn't accept from such expensive products and why it affects us.

[@dlewis9760]

KZbinr "Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics" . One man company. Works out of his garage. Does "House Calls" hundreds of miles away if you pay. Lives in State College, PA. Just did a video where he ended up in Baltimore to fix an electrical starting problem on a crane. Also, "South Main Auto Repair". Guy owns his own repair shop. General auto repair. But another guy who is a whiz with electronics.

[@MatthewHill]

I remember (not that long ago) when Apple's products were among the most elegantly designed, easily repairable, maintainable, upgradeable machines around. I owned many generations of their desktops, all-in-ones, and laptops, repaired several of them myself, and frequently did mid-cycle upgrades of RAM or disk to extend the devices' lifetimes. My how this company has fallen. I held my nose and bought a MacBook with soldered RAM a few years back, and then had to replace the entire mainboard for almost $700 when a $5 SMC chip on it failed last year. You could make the excuse that this is necessary on a laptop to achieve competitive levels of portability and battery life. But on a desktop? No. When they started taking active measures to frustrate repairability and upgradeability, I jumped ship. I'm done with them now.

[@SonyXLR]

Apple is setting itself up for only the rich consumer who has money to toss around when things break.

[@EasyMac308]

I've always been opposed to Apple, even in the pre-OSX days due to how hard it was to use/troubleshoot (why no terminal, come on!). I recently picked up a 2011 Mac Mini for running OpenBSD, and while yes, *technically*, it's upgradeable by the user (RAM and HDD, at least), replacing the hard drives is an absolutely insane amount of work. Nobody should design a machine where the wear parts (hard drives) require the machine to be COMPLETELY TORN DOWN to swap. You're looking at close to an hour of work if you've never done it before to swap both the hard drives in a mini. Absolutely insane.

[@-danR]

The original Mac and its successors were not designed even to be _opened._ If you found them "easily repairable" it would be only because entrepreneurs quickly responded with "Mac crackers", so you could get those dammed 5-lobe screws out.

[@brswggr]

@@-danR Have you never seen a Power Mac G4? An original Mac Pro? Or heck, going way back, even a 9600? Because every single one of those machines was able to be opened completely down to the logic board without the use of a single tool.

[@awandererfromys1680]

I remember the first iMac. I was baffled that Apple had created such an utterly useless thing. Loved the G4, that was a beast, but from there on I was out.

[@martianmuppet]

I've used Apple computers for all my working life, but no longer. And I'm glad to be done with them. But their packaging is nice. Cool vid, thanks for uploading.

[@ManjaroJam]

are these SSDs available in aftermarket ? I had in mind to upgrade a Studio M1 with 512GB and 32GB RAM to 2TB SSD and 64GB RAM. The only way to go to 2TB is use a single strip or, 2 x 1TB strips by removing the current 512GB. The single strip is more advantageous because it would free up the second SSD slot and provide a contiguous 2TB SSD space.

[@Mason-gz3tl]

Linus: "Am I not a customer?" Apple: "Dance monkey dance"

[@Eliphas_Leary]

For non-apple-fanpeople, this is pure commedy gold.

[@yellowwinner1]

For sure, but that quote "As Apple does, so does the rest of the industry." really does resonate with you 😬

[@XIIchiron78]

Maybe it was years ago when they started down this path, and everyone assumed nobody would put up with it. It's not funny anymore.

[@SUCHMISH]

Amen brother!!

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

And here I am with my 5th gen iPod that can be modded to 2 TB with a microSD card adaptor and runs 3rd party firmware.

[@zadsazhad]

@@yellowwinner1 usually in smartphone world, i don't think this will be applied in PC

[@stevengeorges9046]

I love Apple and I've been using Mac's since 1984, but you are right. There is no excuse to lock out NVMe SSD upgrades. Especially important in the long run because SSD's are not designed to last forever.

[@veracity91]

Whats also sad is that i brought in my macbook pro because of the keyboard warranty repair... my battery was screwed as well.. they replaced it all for free because of the keyboard warrenty but then 2 months later .. it started overheating and then the screen would go fully black.. another 2 months after that and i have to use a monitor 24/7 because the monitor just stays black.. apparently its overheating even with my fans on full blast. CLEARLY they did something to my mac... it ran cool and perfect before sending it to them... THEY COULDNT STAND TO LOOSE MONEY ON THE KEYBOARD WARRENTY so they made my computer break down and overheat just 2 months later.

[@xenohiraeth]

I left the apple ecosystem completely. Getting out of their "walled garden" was near impossible due to the amount of obstacles they placed on my way out specifically. (I still have family photos held hostage by my iCloud that got locked somehow, and can't be recovered "until I buy another iphone" according to support. False by the way.) And while I am sad to have missed out on some of their cooler advancements, I no longer get screwed over by garbage like this. In my situation the only winner is me, and Apple has done nothing but pushed me further away as they give the middle finger to Unreal Engine developers, android users, Windows users, and linux users. As someone who falls into these categories, the burnt bridge is irreparable

[@samchen9951]

Same. I think their products are cool, but I left their ecosystem 9 years ago and never looked back. Shit like this only makes me firmer never to go back

[@PureCowJuice]

Can you not download your photos from the “Request personal data” page?

[@handenbramilton]

4:08 apple’s been doing this for at least ten years. repairing my 2013 27” imac i found out various manufacturers made multiple variations of the psu; liteon and at least samsung iirc. totally different look, built to same spec. this might be why apple was barely affected by covid, but covid isn’t what started apple doing this

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

After all, that is the reason why AMD is in the x86 CPU market to begin with. IBM wanted a second supplier for the 8088, and AMD got the license. It's a smart move tbh

[@ppcasm_1278]

I wonder if it's for redundancy in case there's a design flaw found later down the road in a particular design it doesn't affect 100% of product. If you do 50% yield with each company and there's a critical flaw that shows up later and it affects 25% of only one of the vendors (an unlikely scenario by most standards) then you've mitigated a potential disaster.

[@handenbramilton]

@@HappyBeezerStudios Oh that’s neat, I had no idea!

[@handenbramilton]

@@ppcasm_1278 Also a very good point. But if you keep adding manufacturers, is there not a hypothetical critical threshold where the potential for exponentially multiplied issues directly outweighs the expectation of inherently uniform product reliability? I can see it working fine for two, maybe three manufacturers, but I’m curious how wide that net can be cast before the issues outweigh the benefits of manufacturing that way.

[@solarfinder]

I've always had issues with the control they force. Very similar to the fact I do not own the content on a physical disk, rather I have leased a license to use said content.

[@acdnrg]

30 years ago AVID did the same shit with HDDs for their NLE systems. It seems to be a popular move within that customer base - which probably does not care about "technicalities". Unfortunately I do. Into the bin it goes, so I just decided to go for an intel based system as my next studio DAW.

[@sullivan912]

Thanks Linus. You have just given Apple the idea to software lock their power supplies.

[@KoljaBeckmann_music]

Software locked screwdriver is next!

[@peppi69]

I think it's unreal, that on every Apple product they devert more time and effort to making things unrepariable, unupgradable for everyone, than just making the Product better.

[@arandomhumanbeing2464]

How do you know they make more effort to make the product unrepairable than making the product better? Such a ridiculous unjustified claim.

[@tnmygrwl]

the moment you realize that it is what makes them better.

[@Lorentz_Driver]

@@arandomhumanbeing2464 My dude did you watch the video

[@Lorentz_Driver]

@@tnmygrwl How much does copium go for these days?

[@Oblivion_94]

@@arandomhumanbeing2464 We got a fanboy here! lol you can ignore this, I am just trying to start a pointless arguement.

[@JahaJaho]

After building my of PC's for many years I got tired of the agony of having to replace the whole shabang anyway after a couple of years why the PCi, Rams, cpus and whatever was stuck on a deadend route and decided I was not going to waste endless hours of KZbin and manuals to keep my PC running. Another factor was the part that even after investing all I could on fanless components, watercooling and what not I still never got my PC to keep silent. So I went and had a look at a Mac Studio. It did what I wanted it to do and it did it silently. End of intro - I bought it one. The price jumps between versions, ram, and drive options made me go with 32 GB and 512SSD. It still does what I want it to do, but I have added external SSDs to store my work since it is not possible to upgrade the internal drive. It is totally insane. It would have made some sense if they at least offered a service to take units in and offer upgrades as a paid service. Pretty weird also that no environmental organisation have tried to sue them for this.

[@librarian_maarten]

With our firm I have a Macbook pro max and some of the programs don't work or give problems with the M1 chip. The manufacturer of those programs say it is specifically becouse of the different architecture of the chip. The main one I'm talking about is Vectorworks 2022 - they even put out a statement that the update will come soon and that there is positive ''progress'' in the development in the new system. The other big one is twinmotion from epic games and sketchup pro in direct link. You need from apple a code translater program the be able to run it but this does not always work... seems to be very random. Twinmotion als communicated with me that in the near future the update that will come out will fix this issue and that Ray tracing than will be possible but they can't put a date on the release.. also kind of funny my 7 year old 2000euro pc is running the same renders and the same time (maby max 30sec slower) than than a almost 4000 euro laptop. Propably becouse of the architecture of the chip is not properly supporting the programs but needing to translate everything. We call that F*ing lovely. Sad that in architectural schools they almost teach you to only get mac's in Belgium for some unknown pretentious reasons... sorry for the rand and I love your videos. Cheers!

[@JoeCensored]

Usually products are either cheap and disposable, or expensive and repairable. Apple's innovation has been to pioneer the expensive and disposable idea as a good thing. The fact that people keep buying these products, continues to surprise me.

[@iAmTheSquidThing]

I would ditch Apple in an instant and start building my own PCs if Windows wasn't still such a mess compared to of Mac OS.

[@notsure4539]

Sorry, how is the most popular OS "a mess?"

[@Vageta1999]

@@notsure4539 depends on the use case.

[@amdintelxsniperx]

@@iAmTheSquidThing mac os is a mess as well especially now . if you try to use anything that has legacy on mac os you are plagued with issues . windows is the most veristile os you can run legacy software on any pc and it will most likely work you cant do that on mac osx plus windows is usually got browser support for a longer ammount of time

[@bleuebloom]

@@notsure4539 bs with Microsoft edge and ads in the start menu to start😫

[@chrism2279]

I kept an old Sony laptop going for almost 10 years by incrementally upgrading it. More RAM, swapping the HDD for an SSD, even upgrading the wifi chip which was socketed. Not possible with this Apple crap so it's a no from me.

[@DanielHarrisCodes]

Or with most modern PC Laptops or All-in-Ones? I don’t think I can upgrade anything in any of my PC laptops except the M2 SSD in Surface Pro 8 :(

[@m.l.9385]

@@DanielHarrisCodes Well - it depends - sub notes - yes, most of these aren't upgradeable these days - but if one can check before buying a new Laptop, you will find Laptops in the 15" and above categories that are well upgradeable with SSD, RAM and WiFi - in some rare cases even the GPU is swappable - but that doesn’t make sense most of the time as these modules are priced horrendously. …and All-in-Ones are IMHO a big No-No anyway - whilst some of them are in fact upgradeable.

[@DanielHarrisCodes]

@first last It would be great if they went back to letting you just add RAM in laptops and ultrabooks I agree. Suppose one thing to think about with the Apple is how they retain value, a Macbook might still fetch £400-£500 (My 2012 MBPr did in 2021) for example. I only upgraded it because the M1 MBA was on offer, I just use it for building apps (nothing that requires a beefy Mac - But if I didn't need a Mac to publish to their store I wouldn't really need one at all)

[@r.h6864]

Have a MacBook pro 2010 13 inch. Upgraded RAM and SSD. Still running Office programs nicely for my wife. Like the keyboard more than the one from my 2017 MacBook Pro.

[@rakka3747]

Same, but the overwhelming majority of consumers doesn't want to do that, or can't. So they buy new. That's why an open market and doing research is so important for consumers.

[@syedmansoor5989]

I remember when i upgraded from hard disk to SSD on my Dell laptop, which has OEM windows locked to hard disk and I was successfully able to get official windows back on my SSD by following few steps.

[@pontram]

This is a very thought-through business model and ensures the prosperity of the company. Note that you can always sell your used Mac for a much higher price than a comparable Windows machine and buy a new one with considerable less loss. When I upgraded the old Mac Book Pros of my children with cheap bigger Harddiscs and RAM, Apple lost much money because I did not buy new ones. They learned their lesson, and the following generations of Mac Book Pros had that possibility removed. What they did not consider though was the fact that they lost a lot more money at least with us, since as time passed, we did not want to buy further Mac Books, at their excruciatingly high price (even used), which are not upgradable.

[@ryant2568]

Apple specifically goes out of its way to stop you from upgrading the "SSD" That is infuriating and totally what I expected of such an anti-consumer company.

[@Nick-rv9wr]

I know right also your mum

[@mycosys]

I doubt they went out of their way, the system needs to know the layout of the flash. They just dont provide the most basic configuration tools (ie the BIOS utility built into every PC) to anyone but their service agents.

[@ryant2568]

@@mycosys There is a certified tech that commented further down and he confirmed when you change the configuration of the SSD you needs to re-flashed the SOC. Compare this to any laptop or PC on the planet where you can just throw in the extra SSD stick in and the machine and Windows will just see it. This was done on propose.

[@DanielHarrisCodes]

@@ryant2568 ANY laptop or PC? Are you sure? Not saying Apple are right, just that it happens in the PC world too. At least it does in laptops and all-in-ones (equally as infuriating whether it’s a PC or Mac)

[@kaneki1056]

@@DanielHarrisCodes you can just put a ssd that fits in a laptop (or an all in one as you stated) and windows or linux will detect it unless the manufacturer goes out of their way to lock that functionality in the BIOS or the OS but they won't cause it's just a waste of time. you could prove me wrong by giving examples where installing a new SSD is not possible as long as there's space for it

[@imperfect_cliche]

I feel the title of this video so much. I loved my mac all in one system as a studio computer when doing digital art in college, i still think about buying a nice mac to use as a studio workstation for art and music, but I hate how consumer unfriendly their products are. I do IT and if I have the knowledge to fix or upgrade something myself, I want to do it MYSELF. Their proprietary products are so impractical and you have to jump through hoops or buy more of their product just to even make the most of it or even in some cases, fix it. And with a lot of their computer products, you cant just upgrade it with a few parts, you have to buy an entire new product that will just be outdated a year or 2 later or sometimes, in a matter of months. I know it's just a another way for them to make money but as big of a company as they are, they don't need to nickel and dime the consumer like that. It is pure greed. They know how to make a good product but choose to limit it because they wanna milk the consumer as much as possible.

[@getsideways7257]

That's how they got there in the first place. I don't think complaining now will make them suddenly stop and reflect on their ways...

[@Larslegos]

And that's on capitalism, where money and profit margins are the only things that matter

[@user-hi9yx2ns1l]

Just switch to Windows, far superior OS.

[@-Believeinyourself-]

@@getsideways7257 but passively aggressively complaining about a comment complaining about their ways will surely make them change.

[@riccardobrandolini2545]

I agree with you but the feeling of a product being outdated just after a few years is more likely to be something that happens with Intel and Android devices, that refresh their lineups constantly every 6 months/1 year or so