I Was DENIED A Mormon Temple Recommend

If you answer no to certain questions in a Temple Recommend Interview, you are unlikely to receive one. Many feel they cannot be fully honest in their Temple Recommend Interviews, or use unique personal definitions. But what happens if you don't? What happens if you are honest?
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[@julienelson8162]

Thank you, Nemo, for your “firm foundation” of honesty, intellectual and spiritual study, rationality, and strength. ❤

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

My pleasure!

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

Spoken like a true non Christian pretending.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@lauraj8429 you should try that with your mouth. No doubt it's been one of your main problems since you were young. You really are outclassed, but that's something you're grown used to it seems.

[@DRT279]

Firm Foundation??? 😂

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@lauraj8429 Again, you think with your mouth instead of your brain. Things never change.

[@maxjenkins7139]

You are a good man Nemo. You are a warrior

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Cheers for that!

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

​@@NEMOTHEMORMON oh please you're a cowardly liar.

[@bryanteresabushar8294]

I have been struggling for over 4 years with the hypocrisy

[@jessicamasonsonneborn4864]

I meet with you and talked with you when you came to the thrive event in Provo. One of those that helped you when you got altitude sickness. I’m the transgender woman who how several other to get you medical attention. Thanks again for your service and knowledge . Jessica Mason Sonneborn

[@kyrroti]

Another trans woman in the LDS sphere? Nice to meet you.

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Thank you very much for your help that evening, it was rough but I was very well looked after!

[@robinnetto6794]

OMG altitude sickness is horrible yet it reminds me of the altitude the Mormon leaders have. It makes you sick light headed , confused…… that is an example of the leaders. Sick from putting themselves higher than anyone else. Please do not let them ex you🙏

[@kellyreilly-robinson2130]

I admire your desire to hold the LDS hierarchy accountable to truth! Good luck and I am sorry for the lies told and damage done to all members

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

There aren't any lies or damage done. Don't be such a puppet for these lies. Hypocrites never win.

[@nello1591]

@@WatchingwaitingG2D no lies? How about how the church lied to the SEC and had to pay a fine of $5 million of 'sacred funds' for their dishonesty. How do you explain that?

[@TJa2874]

@@WatchingwaitingG2Dyou are right about that. The church is led by hypocrites and is not winning at all! In fact, many people are leaving because of the hypocrisy and lies that come from the church itself

[@birdinsnowball]

yes, thats what i belive also and that the reason the "church" will lose its members.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"I admire your desire to hold the LDS hierarchy accountable to truth!" What does *accountable* mean? To whom is this accounting to be made? God for sure; less sure to you.

[@nerdnul]

Awesome video. You are exposing nothing but the truth in a spirit that makes God proud. Thanks for what you are doing and how you are leading.

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

My pleasure, thanks for that!

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

Not even a Christian. Bit of a hypocrite, aren't you?

[@DRT279]

Thank you for encouraging Nemo the 🤡 to continue on. He would be such a disappointment living in his mom’s basement not making half truth videos about the LDS church. I bet all the other ppl in his ward are so proud of him. I bet his bishop is wondering what calling he can give him to help support the ward.

[@nerdnul]

You are most welcome. I have enjoyed seeing the destruction of LDS for the last few years. The truth, logic and the historic record have lead people out of the LDS blasphemy where many find God. Maybe one day you can too.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

You know nothing about God. You know nothing about truth. Are you hiding something as well?

[@nomollyshere]

This is what they did to a local family and when I called them out they “threatened” to take mine…so I ripped mine up in front of them, cussed them all out and haven’t been back.

[@christinegivens9048]

Fantastic. From an exSDA. Well done.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"I ripped mine up in front of them, cussed them all out and haven’t been back." Thank you! Temple goers should be humble especially as you are proxy for someone else.

[@heidisorenson4678]

Nemo, when you say you can't excercise your priesthood do you mean as far as attending the temple? Can you still give a priesthood blessing to your wife or family? I think you are amazing for standing for truth. You are a man of integrity. I left the church after 60 years. I couldn't live with the pain and betrayal I felt when I learned I had been lied to. Lied to by men I had always defended and upheld as Prophets, Seers, and Revelators. Everyday I feel sorrow for those who believe the Church leadership would never lie to them. I now have to balance a mixed faith marriage and it is unbelievably difficult. God bless you Nemo. ❤

[@petrahinkley5489]

I believe he said he would not be able to give blessings or perform ordinances anymore. I think this is horrible. What is an honest person supposed to do once they realize the truth? It has only been a little over a month ago, while listening to a podcast about Joseph Smith, that I realized that my parents and I were lied to over 53 years ago and ever since. Most of my life has been a sham! I left my country, moved to Utah, went to BYU, eventually got married in the temple which my father was not allowed to attend because he also briefly had no temple recommend. If I knew then what I know now I would have had a civil wedding. I feel it's too late for me now to completely change the track I'm on. My parents are deceased, my ex-husband died at age 42 and I only have one friend I can discuss this with. I can understand how difficult a mixed faith marriage could be for you. I wish you all the best in living your truth!

[@heidisorenson4678]

@petrahinkley5489 Thank you. My parents couldn't attend my temple wedding because they hadn't paid tithing for years. It's the truth tellers that are punished and called liars. I was able to hold on to my belief that there is still a God out there. He doesn't have a special place in heaven for VIP mormons who don't drink coffee and pay 10%. I don't have to attend meetings or drown in guilt, and my relationship is with him, not some self-proclaimed middleman. I am sorry. So many of us are in pain. I trust very few people. My sister doesn't know what to do or what to think. She is in a constant state of anxiety, and her health has suffered. I wish you the best that life has to offer. I almost gave up on life and decided I won't let them and their church destroy me. It is horrible what they do to the honest and truth seeking people.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

Until and unless you are excommunicated, most of the functions of priesthood work fine. D&C 121 explains when it doesn't work fine. But basically you are invoking the name of Jesus Christ and if you do that with faith, that's where the power comes from. Using priesthood is *demonstrating obedience* and it is obedience that brings power. Olive oil has no healing properties, obedience has healing properties. When the Israelites looked on Moses' staff with the snakes on it, snakes on a stick have no magical power, *obedience* activates power, and the angels that number in millions or billions, seeing obedience, perform miracles.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

@@heidisorenson4678 "He doesn't have a special place in heaven for VIP mormons who don't drink coffee and pay 10%. " What he has is places for people that are obedient, and another place for people that are disobedient. Naturally, it matters what exactly a person is obedient TO or disobedient TO. So a person that pays 10 percent and does not drink coffee; BUT has failed in the two Great Commandments, might as well have enjoyed coffee and saved the 10 percent for himself. But if a person is obeying the two Great Commandments, THEN it helps a bit to obey these "temporal" commandments. For most people, not drinking coffee has some health benefits (word of *wisdom* after all) and paying 10 percent helps build the Kingdom of God; and you're getting off EASY since everyone who went to the temple has *already covenanted to give 100 perent* . Had I known that was the covenant I might not have sought endowment, since I certainly do not give 100 percent but that's also not practical. Helping build the kingdom of God happens in many ways; such as right here countering those that are trying to destroy the Kingdom of God.

[@YogiTheBearMan]

I'm guessing/speculating he's been told it's an informal dis-fellowship and can't do sacrament or exercise priesthood anymore, something along those lines.

[@carenlavelle-harlan4247]

Your integrity never ceases to amaze me. Thank you for being you.

[@AaronNickolas7]

I actually admire someone who is deciding to remain headstrong in the church, but is also calling out the higher ups on their lies, unapologetically and is refusing to back down and be bullied. Good on you! My mother is still a member, but can’t participate fully because she refuses to sustain the senior leadership as well.

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

I hope you and her can find some solidarity in this video

[@AaronNickolas7]

@@NEMOTHEMORMON honestly, I left the church a couple of years ago. I couldn’t continue supporting an organization that kept lying and leading their followers so falsely. That’s not even mentioning all of the abuse and whatnot that the church higher ups either ignore or sweep under the rug. I just couldn’t anymore. My mother, on the other hand IS still faithful, so it IS nice to know that there are others out there who, like my mother ARE still faithful, but not giving in to the lies the higher ups are spewing. It is ironic that one of the temple recommendation questions is, “are you honest in all your dealings” and some of the higher ups can’t even answer that one truthfully…

[@AaronNickolas7]

@John-dr1fp spoken like a true brainwashed Mormon. God gave us our own minds, our own power of discernment for a reason! Why else if not to USE IT??? Why can’t we question the higher ups??? They’re old men. Old MORTAL men. They’re not perfect. So, why do we HAVE to listen and obey EVERYTHING they say without question???? That’s not even logical. We should be able to have our own judgement of what is right and wrong and still be able to participate in certain aspects of the faith without shame. Why do we HAVE to sustain our prophets and whatnot if they keep lying to us and covering things up???? They make their own choices with their own lives. Why do we have to live with them, too??? Sustaining the higher ups should NOT be a factor of worthiness. That is just stupid!

[@AdamHuishStreaming]

As one of your peers, I thank you for your bravery and tenacity in these areas.

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

I appreciate that!

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

Another fake.

[@AdamHuishStreaming]

@@WatchingwaitingG2D I was surprised by your comment so I clicked on your name, I see you have over 500 comments on Nemo’s channel. interesting…

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@@AdamHuishStreaming Sorry, I'm not into your lifestyle. Ask nemo. He is.

[@AdamHuishStreaming]

@@WatchingwaitingG2D I don’t understand what you are trying to say…

[@rp7983]

Back in 2020, I was invited to go to my sister's wedding in the temple. I had just moved so I had a new ward so I paid tithing once, asked the bishopric for a temple recommend interview, got the recommend, and then stopped going shortly thereafter. It was good for the wedding I had to go the following year despite being inactive on my way out and not paying tithing. This year, I was blunt to my mom and told her that's what I did to get the recommend, and she informed me that her and my dad literally did the same thing where they just paid tithing once and asked for a temple recommend and then never paid after. My family and I used to be devout Mormons years ago.

[@Genesis-xd1id]

My temple recommend expires this month and I have no desire to renew it. You’re a man of courage and these profits, seers of wealth, and hiders of truth are just men who know they have no revelation, and just force members to pay to play!

[@scottgoertzen5368]

Maybe mormon leaders could make a killing in the video game industry - You know - As you said, "pay to play." LOL.

[@DRT279]

When Nemo ask you to support him… it’s going to a much better cause of???? 😂

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

Your recommended expires this month? Yeah, right. Another fake pretender lying like a puppet.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@scottgoertzen5368 remember when you actually could think for yourself? No of course not.

[@Genesis-xd1id]

@@WatchingwaitingG2Dwho lies about that? lol!

[@mollyexmo]

Make them excommunicate you. By doing so it would be confirmation that you have not only struck a nerve, you hit it smack dab in the middle! Stand your ground, Nemo!

[@charlesmendeley9823]

I think this won't happen. They recognize excommunicating members does not silence them in the internet age. Moreover, Nemo is not influential enough for them to even bother. Maybe when he reaches 100k subscribers, which I doubt he will. I think Nemo's approach is just a waste of time. His main focus should be on producing high quality relevant content. John Dehlin's success is due to his high quality compelling interviews about life struggles of LDS members.

[@YogiTheBearMan]

@@charlesmendeley9823 You think the church would rather wait until he has lots of followers and then excommunicate him? How does that make sense, the more followers he has the more people will be upset if/when that happens. Also, I think Nemo's approach is central to his content. Def a big part of why I like to hear him on Mormon Stories and am now here. I say Nemo keep doing what you're doing and of course high quality relevant content is important as you stated.

[@davidsfuntimes9899]

Nemo you have a valid fight. Dallin H. Oaks once said, " you do not oppose the church even if you are right" emphasis added. They are good at silencing their flock. As an ex-member once put it, while being ex-communicated, "there is viciousness behind that smile". Nemo you will be liberated from bondage.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"you do not oppose the church even if you are right" That's an extremely important principle. If everyone who had the slightest difference of opinion succeeded in bending the church, it would break into millions of pieces; because other people are bending it their way and that way. "The church" needs a WAY and it can be only one way. Democratic churches tend to be weak; single congregations that struggle with internal differences. You cannot fail to have differences; brother against brother, child against parent. So your choices are to sustain the church or leave it. Trying to bend it fails because millions have already tried to bend it and it won't be bent your way if it bends at all.

[@bmo5082]

@@thomasmaughan4798but that’s not true either. Because the church does bend itself to public sentiment. It did with black and the priesthood and children of LGBT parents not being able to be baptized. Let me reiterate, the church does very much bend to public opinion and criticism.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

@@bmo5082 "Because the church does bend itself to public sentiment." Sort of. But it isn't "the church". If the president bends, it all bends. If not, then not.

[@bmo5082]

@@thomasmaughan4798 yes I’d say that is true. So it’s less of a bend and more of a sudden break when the prophet dies and the next one comes in.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

@@bmo5082 Yes; the changes can be abrupt. Suddenly no longer use the word "Mormon" but the utility of it has become evident; the anti's didn't get the memo or have chosen to ignore it. Makes it easy, for now, to identify the tares among the wheat. President Oaks implemented "home church" a year before Covid-19 broke out. Teaching methods have changed dramatically; at least on paper.

[@mariamg890]

All my respect, Nemo! I feel you when you say we're encouraged to be honest but the top leaders are not. I'm looking forward to seeing this awakening in Latin America, too. I love the Church though I can't stand so much hypocrisy and injustice from the ones who are supposed to be representing the Lord Jesus Christ. Keep it up, Nemo!

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Cheers!

[@SuperGringo71]

I am a US citizen born and raised in the United States. 24 years ago I moved to Honduras Central America. I saw a General Conference talk from Elder Holland and he stood at the pulpit and said he was someone else. I was shock and in disbelief of what I heard. The General Authorities of the Church should be more careful because they don't know I a new convert or investigator doesn't know who they are. The church has received so much negativity they don't need more gas to put on the fire. I am so glad that it wasn't the prophet who said it. I am so sad because I believe and know that the church is true.

[@inChristalone1960]

I love the members, I hate the hypocracy and endless lies of the leaders!

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@@SuperGringo71 pretending again?

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@@inChristalone1960 you're a fake.

[@jessicamasonsonneborn4864]

Go for it Nemo!!!

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Thanks!

[@nickdipaolofan5948]

@@NEMOTHEMORMON Good for you!!! The church is basically the kid in the schoolyard who tries to make up the rules as they go so they always win. They "own the ball" (the ball being their claims of speaking for God) and because of that, the rules will always be "for thee, but not for me" when it comes to church leadership. If more people were vocal like you, more church members will see the hypocrisy of the LDS leadership and their eyes will be opened that their claims of "owning the ball" are false and walk away from the game (church).

[@sdfotodude]

Sometimes the truth is not faith-affirming

[@exmodeadpool]

In short, my stake president framed me. I got punished. I provided an audio record of his confession to me. Other leaders said that evidence and witnesses are nothing against words or stake presidents. Then I got punished more. Then I blackmailed them into paying for my gym and driving classes. It's not much, but it was a start.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

Do you really think people are as dishonest as you a r e to believe that nonsense. So tell me, do you go to another church, or are you just another pretender like nemo?

[@julienelson8162]

How cavalierly some people criticize others with no idea of the emotional, physical, spiritual, and social costs that have been scrutinized for years, and those moving forward. Wasn’t there something about not judging the other in so,e scripture or another (sarcasm intended)? Being denied full fellowship, being denied full participation, being denied a Temple Recommend, being denied friends, all because of honesty is one of the most painful things a member can experience. Been there. Done that.

[@heidisorenson4678]

Me too.

[@as-above-so-below-]

I haven't experienced social ramifications at all with the Church, I've been blessed to always be surrounded by very genuine members just trying to do everything they can to hold on and be honest and pragmatic (that's just what happens when you find the Church in the deep Southern US where people want refuge from the dogmatic hellfire theology they've been exposed to all their lives), but in seeing its effects on those who found the Church in areas where that's not the case, I can see exactly why Christ chased the merchants off of the temple grounds in rage. Not even a man of perfect ethics and self authorship could justify in his heart not acting in his Father's will.

[@as-above-so-below-]

It's heartwarming to see members express concern for the health of their closest friends and family in various parts of the world. It makes me want to return and be a participant in the Church again to know just how good I actually had it when I was active.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

So does your girlfriend.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

Exmos tend to the most judgmental people I know.

[@amazinmaven]

Solidarity ❤

[@prophetcentral]

"But why should I have to sustain men who lie while claiming to speak for Jesus in order to be able to go and worship in the temple?" Don't say NO ONE can answer this, because the scriptures answer this very well. What did Jesus say about the men who sit in Moses' seat? Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Everyone thinks that the apostles and presidents are the judges in Zion, but God told us otherwise. D&C 64:38 For it shall come to pass that the inhabitants of Zion shall judge all things pertaining to Zion. 39 And liars and hypocrites shall be proved by them, and they who are not apostles and prophets shall be known. 40 And even the bishop, who is a judge, and his counselors, if they are not faithful in their stewardships shall be condemned, and others shall be planted in their stead. What did the Lord call the apostles, prophets and other church leaders? Liars? Hypocrites? So, they are as the scribes and Pharisees after all!

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Great point. Thank you!

[@crystalchristensen7972]

So proud to witness your journey as you live the principles and values of honesty and integrity. You are a Hero to many!!🎉🎉

[@sdfotodude]

It's ok to be as honest as you know how to be. That is the only TRUE Mormon doctrine.

[@inChristalone1960]

Yes, and honest as you know how to be, is not the same as Simply Honest.

[@jorgitosalazar38]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 well done Nemo

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Thanks!

[@scottevensen2615]

That haircut really suits you! Thanks for continuing to share your journey with us. Excellent source of ☕🍿😁

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Thank you kindly!

[@patriciafinn5717]

Members buy all the lies and ignore the truth...sad..

[@Genesis-xd1id]

You’re right and your use of the word “buy” has the added meaning of pay to play!

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

​@Genesis-xd1id you're not even a Christian pretender.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

You're lying.

[@Genesis-xd1id]

@@WatchingwaitingG2D you funny

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@@Genesis-xd1id you're dishonest.

[@marquitaarmstrong399]

We love ❤️ Nemo. Stand for truth. Hi Brit Avengers!

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Thanks Marquita!

[@patricianoel7782]

Short and articulate. 😢Press on, brother Nemo. ❤

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Always!

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

So says a fake Christian.

[@patricianoel7782]

@@WatchingwaitingG2D pardon me? How can you judge my devotion to Christ?

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@@patricianoel7782 you support a dishonest person. You haven't a clue to the truth but believe his every word. That says enough. You are devoted to your convenience. Prove me wrong. What church do you attend?

[@arthurgerardo5146]

​@@NEMOTHEMORMONcan you share your testimony about the book of mormon in your content? Can you share the positive things that the gospel of Jesus Christ in your life? Have you felt the confirmation of the Holy Ghost about your deep diving about the church? Can share all of these in your next content? I know you were once a recipient of the blessings of the gospel of Jesus Christ. I will follow your content if you can share there things in your next contents. Thanks.

[@martinreidart]

I went down this path for a while. It was a path that at the time I totally didn’t realise what was happening. It felt like ‘my eyes were being opened’ to the ‘real truth’ and that all I had been taught and experienced was a lie. This was further enhanced by finding faults in local and other leaders which led to greater confidence and confirmation in this new found lens/bias which I proceeded to view the church and the world through. With this new lens, I started to see many flaws in the people within the church past and present, and it greatly affected my own moral compass - though at the time I was too caught up in my own pride to see that this was causing me to be blind in the sense that Christ taught. It was only through the darkest period of my life that I came to realise that there was only one thing that could bring light back in and that was the hope of Christ. Once I started to let this light shine it changed my perspective to one of faith hope and truth - I had realised that I was reliant on my own understanding and had forgotten to trust in the lord. I started to look at the beam/s in my own life. I came across a quote (not a church quote) that said ‘surrendering to being right is the pre-requisite to finding right’ - this helped immensely to heal conflicts, remove grudges and feelings of being wronged. I had realised that in my pride I had stopped praying, stopped earnestly seeking for the spirit and stopped hearing his voice that was there all along in the scriptures that I thought I knew and didn’t need to read again for the -th times. By doing this and viewing through this different lens again I saw the beauty, saw the good, knew that I had a lot that I could do to build rather than tear down, realised the beauty and peace of forgiveness, and focussed on my own journey and let God be the judge of others. If there is any wrong doing, like many of the apostles of old, how great will be their sorrow - I learned to try to see where I had pride and see my own journey and this has led to so much light coming into my life that I really hope many reading this will or have also experienced.

[@travisjones3794]

Thank you for sharing this. This is a very meaningful comment.

[@jlcl96]

Thank you for all your excellent work. Just a thought: You should be able to exercise the priesthood outside of a temple recommend. As a man, you got ordained to the Mechizedek priesthood before you were allowed to go to the temple, so you’ve got that right unless you’re excommunicated. They can keep you from holding an office that puts you in a position to set someone apart in a calling, but that’s it.

[@gaylasparks]

He has the believers authority that no one can control. Holy spirit lives in each of us that believe and trust in CHRIST ALONE. Read Ephesians in the Bible. It tells you your position and your authority.. man wants to delegate his stuff, not realizing that God gave it through Christ, Faith, trust. God’s WORDS GO FORTH and NEVER RETURN VOID. God is the HIGHEST, MOST POWERFUL, and HE DOESN’T NEED man to represent Him. WE are not equal to Him, but we are in His image, and He has given us authority and dominion Genesis 1:26 Even the earth groans in response to Him and Word. All angels respond to His commands. His is our Father, not a BOSS. He accomplished all things through His Son. Jesus redeemed us to our original position. It’s all done by Him not us. We are dead in our trespasses until we accept the sacrifice of God. God paid the price, with Jesus His only begotten Son, who died as the perfect sacrifice. He knew no sin, but took all of our sins and conquered death and the grave. We get the incredible gift. We can not earn this gift.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

He doesn't hold the priesthood. You never will.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

Priestood automatically becomes inoperative in the following circumstance: D&C 121 36 That the rights of the priesthood are inseparably connected with the powers of heaven, and that the powers of heaven cannot be controlled nor handled only upon the principles of righteousness. 37 That they may be conferred upon us, it is true; but when we undertake to cover our sins, or to gratify our pride, our vain ambition, or to exercise control or dominion or compulsion upon the souls of the children of men, in any degree of unrighteousness, behold, the heavens withdraw themselves; the Spirit of the Lord is grieved; and when it is withdrawn, Amen to the priesthood or the authority of that man. 38 Behold, ere he is aware, he is left unto himself, to kick against the pricks, to persecute the saints, and to fight against God. 39 We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion. 40 Hence many are called, but afew are chosen. 41 No power or influence can or ought to be maintained by virtue of the priesthood, only by persuasion, by long-suffering, by gentleness and meekness, and by love unfeigned; 42 By kindness, and pure knowledge, which shall greatly enlarge the soul without hypocrisy, and without guile

[@thomasmaughan4798]

@@WatchingwaitingG2D "He doesn't hold the priesthood." I wonder how you arrive at that judgement.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@thomasmaughan4798 If you have to ask, you know little about what it is.

[@rachell6526]

You have been an inspiration to me for a couple years now. I can't go to the temple and my 8 year old daughter can't get baptized because we can't sustain the senior leadership

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

I’m so sorry to hear that! I hope one day this changes, I’m trying for you!

[@rogerbrunt5918]

Why do you still go when you know it’s fake and not telling the truth.

[@rachell6526]

@rogerbrunt5918 that's a good question! I mostly go to ask questions in class we didn't know to ask. I also have been inspired by Nemo to stand opposed to the leadership as well at my local conferences. Again, to show everyone we can do it. I feel it's my privilege and DUTY as a member to do this.

[@advisorywarning]

@@rachell6526how do you approach the issue of tithing?

[@rachell6526]

@advisorywarning1219 I'm very generous in my community, but I can't pay tithing to the Church knowing what it goes to. Tithing is something most churches encourage you to pay but it's between you and the Lord. They are shocked when I tell them we are interviewed, temple recommends are revoked, and tithing settlement happens at mine

[@smaug3045]

Enjoyed watching and totally agree, if politicians are dishonest they need to be called out, and if religious leaders do the same they should be called out and not be allowed to hide behind their hypocrisy.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"if politicians are dishonest they need to be called out," What does that MEAN?

[@smaug3045]

@thomasmaughan4798 Held responsible fellow Maughan

[@thomasmaughan4798]

@@smaug3045 "Held responsible fellow Maughan" What does that mean? Provide detail. Who is going to do the holding, what does holding consist of? How exactly are you going to NOT allow someone to hide behind hypocrisy? Oh, yeah, make a KZbin video!

[@Longe]

I LOVE your videos, Elder Stilgoe! ❤

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Thank you!

[@anoriginalcreationx]

I was denied over not being able to afford tithing. But I have over $18K in medical debt and work 2 jobs and just wanted to go see my cousin get married. But the bishop had pulled up my tithing records and chastised me for not being a full tithing payer. That there was the beginning of the end. 😅 found out so many things, but mostly it was the misappropriation of funds. I keep getting sent to collections and TSCC is throwing away furniture that was probably imported from Jupiter.. but here's the thing. I thought being a full tithing payer was between me and God and I used my talents to help others, going above and beyond to be in service to God through the means I had possible, but money has never been something I have in excess... and have had this belief about tithing my whole life. Even when I was sealed in the temple to my husband. How can they live with themselves knowing people are starving and homeless?! The only answer is greed and evil. I am very thankful this happened, after all I may have never woken up and seen TSCC for who they really are.

[@sdfotodude]

It's theological extortion.

[@SuperGringo71]

From what I understand is that the church says pay your tithe and Heavenly Father will bless you. I haven't paid tithe in so long because I can barely afford rent, cable/internet, electricity, water and food. I am single and live by myself. Know that the church only helps the elderly. I wonder if that's why there are so many suicides?

[@BrianWaller-qe7gr]

yes you pay tithing over feeding yourself , suffer while the church is worth over $100 billion

[@janicehedley1006]

I haven't payed tithing as well, so I have been "unworthy" to attend the temple. I really dispise that word "unworthy". Such a negative and degrading word. Yet the church authorities can lie and get their temple recommends. Then we find out that the church is worth billions of dollars (American dollars at that!). Yet people who haven't got the means to pay their tithing are "like second class members of the church". So wrong. God doesn't ask for fancy temples, nor fancy churches. God is for the people; and want us all to kind, love one another, treat people like they want to be treated, and to help your community in ways of helping them out with your service. I have told my Bishop I need to use my credit card just to make my "normal everyday expenses" each month. I will go to my grave in debt, even though I watch every cent I spend. Like others, medical expenses are hurting so many of us (especially as we age, and it gets worse).

[@petrahinkley5489]

​@@janicehedley1006I'm in the same boat as you. I became disabled before retirement age so I don't have enough money for food and meds. Once I found out that Joseph Smith made this whole religion up my guild over tithing went away. That just happened about 6 weeks ago. These podcasts are sure an education!

[@wanderingabout_Y789]

They need you to show everyone NOT having a temple recommend is best! Temple attendance just brings down the property value of the temple and let's not even mention maintenance costs.

[@lauraj8429]

I came on here this week to support Nemo. As such, I defended his position to exmormons who think he should leave and mormons coming here to call him to repentance, etc. In the process: a) I was subjected to the most abusive comments imaginable from a mormon who is...unhinged, for want of a better word. He called me a lying witch and a lesbian (Not offensive in itself but I'm actually not gay, I was just defending the LGTBQ community against his homophobic comments. The point is this is *meant* as a slur - a position which I find very distasteful) b) in engaging with mormons I had to contend with the usual hypocrisy and demonstrations of their mind control. I did this mostly for others to see this evidenced. 1)Unfortunatley this had such a negative effect on me that I have decided never to engage in the comments of any mormon related video again. I have been out of the mormon church for well over a decade and have been so much happier and healthier since doing so. Coming back to it was extremely triggering, to the point that it made me physically sick. 2)Towards the end of a 40 comment thread with a mormon, I quoted a number of NT scriptures that really show the christian point of view regarding the mormon church. It may be of interest to note that at this point I got blocked from commenting further; it seems someone reported me for spreading 'misinformation'. These 2 factors resulted in me deciding to delete every comment I had made on this channel. However, part of me really regrets this because the evidence for questioning mormons and others who may benefit from seeing this is now gone (at least my side of the "conversations"). But such is the price to pay for wanting to protect my own wellbeing and mental health. There is so much to say, but this is no longer my fight. I was lucky to escape this cult. As a footnote, I think it really disappointing that a channel such as Nemo's has become a place in the comments for a huge amount of abuse, as well as exmos getting blocked from a place which is meant to be a safe space for exmos and transitioning mormons. I think this shows the level of mind control and abuse that he is up against. And my heart goes out to him. That is all, over and out.

[@beckydahl6439]

thank you nemo…would that open, honest dialogue be something the church of jesus christ of latter day saints was interested in instead of one sided gaslighting and unquestioning obedience…

[@WhoReallyCares917]

The question is, why would you want to remain a member of that church?

[@giuliom3564]

Maybe he likes the doctrine of the Church. And the Doctrine has nothing to do with money, LGBT issues, racism etc.

[@WhoReallyCares917]

@giuliom3564 The church has everything to do with money (10% tithing & fast offerings) LGBT issues, How about prop 8 in California ? Racism, OH boy, In 1977, apostle Boyd K. Packer publicly stated that "[w]e've always counseled in the Church for our Mexican members to marry Mexicans, our Japanese members to marry Japanese, our Caucasians to marry Caucasians, our Polynesian members to marry Polynesians. ... The counsel has been wise. So the question is, do you know anything about the Mormon church, or do you always walk around with your eyes closed?

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@WhoReallyCares917 Hey, so you're gay. Get over it.

[@redcurrantart]

But Nemo, haven’t they refused to give you one for awhile now? I’m interested to see what’s different this time… but also a bit confused as this has been ongoing?

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

They have, but this time they wouldn’t even let me answer the questions

[@user-bw3fl7fj9w]

​@@NEMOTHEMORMONso, they gave you an interview, asked you the questions, but didn't let you answer or didn't you really get an interview, just denied the interview?

[@JP-JustSayin]

​@@NEMOTHEMORMON im curious about this as well.

[@petrahinkley5489]

​@@NEMOTHEMORMONI'd like more details on this as well. Did they NOT give you an interview and just said NO???

[@ryanhollist3950]

Although my issue was less of a catch 22, I had a somewhat similar situation. I spent years working on my issues, did everything I could in good faith, had overwhelmingly profound spiritual experiences, only to be abused and manipulated. In the end the only reason that seemed to hold together was that the leaders of the church say so. I realized that to stay it would require me to completely abandon my personal spirituality, ethics, and morality to that group of men.

[@jessicamasonsonneborn4864]

That’s true as long as you are not a general authority- you can be dishonest and lie when you want. You’re a general authority.

[@toniebonilla3165]

I couldn't even get a temple recommend interview. I am Temple Worthy. I was given 3 personal requirements of the Branch President and told the questions have changed. When I answered I know and have studied the questions for 2 weeks. Silence. Then a short discussion about my servicing the community. I asked again for the questions. The discussion ended with me in tears.

[@crawfordcockers]

But Nemo do you even believe? Would you even really want to go to the temple or exercise the "so called priesthood"? Or is it just really the matter of principle?

[@TEAM__POSEID0N]

It is interesting to see how Nemo has essentially forced them to demonstrate their (apparent) punishments of first resort against a whistleblower for the crime of pointing out several top leaders' clear and undeniable pattern of mendacity and thereby causing embarrassment to the leaders and the church. Punishment number 1: You can't go into the handshake and pay-lay-ale hokey-pokey funhouse and do voodoo proxy things for dead people. Punishment number 2: You can't use the make-believe priesthood and rub olive oil in people's hair. I'm just hoping that they won't escalate the punishment by adding a third (possibly the worst and most painful) punishment: You can no longer wear the Jesus-certified underwear that was sold to you by the church and you can not purchase any new Jesus-certified underwear.

[@marymcclanahan1757]

I’m the daughter of a Mormon apostate. Thanks Dad!

[@YourMom-bs9xy]

Mormons: Everyone is welcome at the temple! Also Mormons: You need to be interviewed for a piece of paper to get into the temple.

[@tuffwith2effs899]

I really don't understand why you didn't just leave like the rest of us, but I can respect it. I'm sure they wish you WOULD just leave. Just another of how many million? You can't really be surprised by any of this. It's not like there ever was a time in church history where the values they preach (ie. integrity) were actually upheld.

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

I hear you, but rather than assume the integrity is absent within the church, I feel I have all but proven it.

[@thomasmaughan4798]

"I really don't understand why you didn't just leave like the rest of us" It isn't, or ought not to be, *about other people* but YOUR relationship to God and its instantiation on Earth. That is to say, nobody would need "church" for a relationship to God; what church is for is described at the Waters of Mormon; social companionship, bearing one another's burdens. So you can decide that your wicked bishop is NOT YOUR PROBLEM to solve. You do not need to *steady the ark* so to speak. Obey the two great commandments; find and help other people. A somewhat similar principle exists in the Navy; obey, THEN fix a problem. Obedience is appreciated and critique or steadying-the-ark behavior is a lot more tolerated from humble, obedient people.

[@rtharalson]

I baptized and confirmed my kids with a multi year expired temple recommend. I did so with the bishop fully knowing I never want to go back to a temple with thumb extended. I did so with him knowing I don't know if there is a god. I did so on the one honest statement I could muster . . . I hope there is an after life. The temple access card does not stop you from using the mormon force. They made it up . . . so can you . . . And I think you know that...

[@petrahinkley5489]

Hmm, you're last paragraph made me think...... I believe you are right!

[@azstate94]

how were you able to go in? My husband's expired (likely excommunicated by the date comes) but was invited to his daughter's sealing. Are you saying he can go?

[@rtharalson]

@@azstate94 I don't attend the temple. I was speaking about baptizing my kids with expired TR. I don't know how to coach you regarding a sealing. On the one hand I see it completely made up so I have no problem manipulating to sneak in but I also realize the daughter would know and that would hurt her [likely]. This system sucks. Work really hard to connect with the couple and demonstrate that wedding and sealing are different. Not un important but different. A sealing ... seals a wedding. No reason a wedding needs to be devalued because it is outside of the temple. Have a wedding then go get sealed. Both can be beautiful. Add to that - youth often younger siblings are excluded from temple weddings at no fault of their own. just by age. I told this to my nephew before his wedding. He tried to shame me that I could get a TR. I responded that it was his 5 siblings I was referring to. More than half his family excluded because of age.

[@praestant8]

It is the instilled honesty and integrity that leads one right back out of the church when it is realized they don't follow their own admonitions.

[@user-wb1qb1lo9u]

The Church of Chicken Nuggets of Latter day Chickens

[@VintageVera]

I applaud your bravery but must ask why you want to continue in a church whose leaders, supposedly ordained by God, you can't follow?

[@jasonshults368]

Why would you want one? This is like complaining that the local child predator didn't pursue a younger you.

[@mgeuleinstsear]

Great aspects you are sharing. Luckily, fellow Mormons record temple sessions every once in a while, and put them online, so we can watch the sessions for free 😅 Once you learn about freemasonry and all the penalties and symbols, feelings about temples are just not the same anymore 😵‍💫 I don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

I hear you, I would still like to go back if I can

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

Keep lying. The Masons stole everything they had, and it was little. No one records in the temple's. You definitely couldn't and you've already lost everything.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@NEMOTHEMORMON not a chance.

[@c.m.redhouse7667]

Actually, I miss the "freemasonry" -like rituals. I miss the temple ceremonies. I love rituals. Unfortunately, I don't qualify for a temple recommend either.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@c.m.redhouse7667 The freemasonry like rituals you mention were stolen by them and they couldn't understand them just like the Romans couldn't. Parchments found found years after JS show he knew the correct ones, the Masons had bits. Your loss.

[@smaug3045]

Just looking at some of these comments, not very christian for a church that claims to be the Lords church.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

What would you know about being a Christian since you're not one?

[@smaug3045]

@@WatchingwaitingG2D Not a judgemental christian like you, who thinks he knows someone without even meeting them.

[@krismurphy7711]

TBMs have an unchristian mean streak in them when they are on the defensive. Being a Denier is not a strong position....they hate being painted into a corner.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

​@@smaug3045didn't sound like a denial. Hypocrites will lie.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

​@@krismurphy7711fake Christian talking.

[@James-rf8ee]

Thank you for taking a stand!

[@inChristalone1960]

Nemo, You are a beautiful soul. Your honesty is a great example to the leaders of the lds Church. I hope at some point you are able take comfort in the fact that you are in good company. They may gaslight you into temporarily feeling " second class" , but this is NOT the case. Those who have the courage to stand for truth are rare. History bares them out! You have this gift. Whatever GOD has blessed and blesses you with, they cannot take from you. ❤ They think too highly of thrmselves.😢 They do not have the integrity you possess already. Eyes on Jesus.❤

[@WhiteArtsMagic]

I still am confused why you go actively. If you don’t believe JS to be a prophet or believe in the church anymore seems like such a waste of time to go

[@user-fl5qq5lx4m]

I love your commitment to God and to truth. Thanks for sharing

[@jmalko9152]

The tone police, good observation 🙂 I'm not LDS, but I applaud your stand for integrity.

[@Mikelray-df9my]

Is there no other way?

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

There is no other way.

[@Mikelray-df9my]

@NEMOTHEMORMON bummer! Good luck.

[@kaydensedona]

I am sorry you have to go through this. They are playing the shell game with truth and with your membership. I have not attended General conference since 1990 and have not resigned my membership. I will be attending every single General Conference from now on to vote not to sustain the leaders.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

Sure you will. Bring your girlfriend.

[@kaydensedona]

@@WatchingwaitingG2D ok.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@kaydensedona try not to hold hands while you're embarrassing yourself.

[@kaydensedona]

@@WatchingwaitingG2D ok

[@TdaPIANO]

Let it go, there are deeper mysteries to unfold Nemo. Your dedication is admirable, and sadly only you can make the decision to let go, create a new void were the church was and replace it with something better. The church and it's leaders are only a part of your life right now because you've chosen to make them your the biggest part of your life. I can see you are frustrated and in pain and I know this community played a big role in your life. Listen, you have so much more to learn and create without letting this small not even 200 year old story be the only thing you surround yourself with. Mormon born and bred, I did my mission in southern France and left the church a few years after returning in 2002. I found out why the church was so afraid of the Apostacy that it cancelled everything that had ever existed prior to JS, because they new it would never add up. It was only then did I go on my real mission for myself and found wonders that I can't explain using traditional mormon thinking. You can change your perception of this and in doing so uncover worlds you didn't know existed with faiths and good deeds that have just as much value if not more than the LDS church. If priesthood is really what you crave, then it's time to study how Joseph Smith really was trained in the arts of forms of mysticm. Stone seeing, Dowsing, fortune telling these were just the practices of their time and JS had access to all of it through his family's connection with Dartmouth College. Take a look at the LucyMacCode it's about JS mother. I think you'll find it rather appealing to you. You got this Nemo, you don't need to the church to tell you that you're a good boy anymore. You're a man, a man that is far from finished with his journey here in this world. So go on and be that. Nemo the Man. Trust me that space you think you're holding isn't as important as you think it is. I'm not saying GIVE UP. I'm saying refocus your efforts in trying to understand the purpose of this world. Good Luck

[@kscott8464]

I hope you know how much I appreciate your work and these updates. You seem like an honorable guy.

[@landonmeier3018]

"If we have truth, [it] cannot be harmed by investigation. If we have not truth, it ought to be harmed." - J. Reuben Clark Stay strong Nemo. Quit and receive a 10% pay raise, better underwear, and an extra day off each and every week. I am a former missionary who often invited men and women to be baptized during our first visit. The amount of naivety and arrogance that existed in my mind at the time is downright embarrassing and shameful. Now, kindness is my religion.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

Another fake former member lying. You must be hiding something.

[@desiadaven]

Good on you Nemo. Yoi habe displayed exemplary conduct throughout this whole affair. Yoi have earn my respect a thousandfold.

[@Krebssssssss]

I left the Church years ago, but I admire your desire and willingness to stay to try and improve the institutions from within for everyone still there. I don’t have that fight in me. But you do. Stay strong Nemo!

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Thanks!

[@livewithinyourmeans]

Wow. How I admire your ability to communicate in a way that engages people. I believe commenting on your videos will help you reach many and get them thinking more.

[@DelibirdsTV]

As a former Stake High Counselor (at the age of 27) I was railroaded into losing my temple recommend after similar concerns were raised about the lies spoken from the pulpit and the failure (refusal) of the first presidency to adequately defend themselves. Keep up the good fight.

[@amyfu2047]

I’m on the verge of probably losing my own temple recommend for the same reason. I just haven’t had the official interview yet. I also haven’t been a full tithe payer in almost a year.

[@leahshaw1447]

Thank you for your integrity, honesty and convictions. You have the PH and can use it righteously. I don't have a recommend any more because originally I quit paying tithing so I could get out of debt (and controversy between 'increase,' and 'income'). But with recent changes in the temple, things those in 'authority' have said that I disagree with, I will never try to get another one. It was brought to my attention the other day regarding one of the temple recommend questions. It asks if you recognize the current prophet to be the only person on earth to receive revelation..., or words to that effect. What about the 3 fellows that Christ granted to remain on earth until He comes back? That recommend question would definately stop me from getting another club pass.

[@pould]

Them's fighting words!

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

I'm in a fighting mood!

[@gailcapshaw397]

I support you 100%! Stay strong and keep standing for honesty and truth!

[@user-bw3fl7fj9w]

I thought this would be a discussion or longer?

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Nope, just a summation of where we are at!

[@user-bw3fl7fj9w]

​@@NEMOTHEMORMON maybe could be a longer topic video with Mormon stories? Just a thought... Least, we know your status in regards to the church.

[@StephRivera]

You make such good points and in less than 5 minutes!

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Thank you!

[@TP-om8of]

I’m not a Mormon, but if it were up to me, I’d deny you a temple recommend too. The fact that recommend is a verb not a noun is obviously a concern here.

[@TEAM__POSEID0N]

Unfortunately, that is the official usage in the Mormon church. You're grammatically correct, but only insofar as worldly learning is concerned. Apparently, at some point in history, one of the Mormon leaders gots himself a rev'lation tellin' him that recommend is one of those nouniferous doohickeys. The official card issued to a "worthy" member for admission to the Mormon temples is labeled clearly, in all caps, as a TEMPLE RECOMMEND. If you were to insist that they say "recommendation" and criticize the leaders for not knowing the difference between a noun and a verb, you would not be able to get your own temple recommend, let alone be in a position to deny one to anyone else. You could even be excommunicated and cast out from among the Lard's people.

[@karatevideosandmore7685]

If I was his Bishop.......I would have denied him one a LONG time ago...mm this is a good example of Elder Bednar's Wedding Garment talk...... he's really the guest that chooses not to wear the Wedding Garment offered by the Host....but one of his own making...

[@TEAM__POSEID0N]

@@karatevideosandmore7685 It's kind of a weird scenario where you force a guest not to wear their own clothing and insist that they wear whatever you decide they must wear. Elder Bedknob seems to love those kinds of "my way or the highway" scenarios. Isn't he also the one who has taken the lead in deleting the word "free" from the traditional Mormon teachings about "free agency"? Once a mainstay of the Mormon belief system, it has been erased from the Mormon lexicon and flushed down the memory hole, now replaced with just "agency"...which means simply choosing to obey whatever the leaders tell you Jesus want you to do or choosing to be damned and punished for not choosing to obey. I can't wait to see what kind of tin-pot dictator he turns into if and when he ascends to the status of "Top Prophet".

[@iamjustsaying1]

Honesty? This church was literally founded based on dishonesty. But, I appreciate every effort you've made to point that out. Before long, you will likely be exed, because I'm starting to really hear your frustration and irritation coming out.

[@DaddyTodd]

Love you, brother. Keep fighting the fight!

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Thanks!

[@rkn2800]

It’s not a surprise that the Church thinks that speaking out loud to the world - questioning Church leadership, the integrity of any leader, Church doctrine or history - means that you are not on board with one of the stated covenants in the temple ceremony that you sustain Church leaders. So, you can’t have it both ways I guess. You can’t question the leaders and also go through temple ordinances, where it is presumed that you do accpet everything Church leaders say, questionable behavior or not. You got my support, but I think you’ll have to accept not ever going through the temple ceremonies again. I made a conscious choice to do that myself (the temple movie is available on YT anyway if you want to refresh the ordinances) because the Church now occupies a space of meaninglessness in my life. I was raised in the Church. I’ve been done with it for about 20 years now. I was a serious student and voracious consumer of the scriptures and Church doctrine. But I see the manipulation, political activism and lies of the Church and don’t appreciate it. The Church should lose it’s tax status.

[@user-bw3fl7fj9w]

Most religions should lose their tax status, since they all influence their members how to vote!

[@jimwhitaker4327]

I know exactly where you are coming from. When I discovered the church was false and not what it appeared to be, I gave my temple card to my stake president and gladly resigned. I didn't want nor would I allow anyone to have any power over me. I took back my power and voice.

[@Metroid-rg9pn]

Not responding is absolutely not "tacitly admitting" Nemo is right. There are lots of times when I've not responded to someone because I knew it wouldn't make a difference and I had more important things to do. In fact, I can pull the same card and say that if Nemo doesn't reply to this comment, he's tacitly admitting that I'm right. And if you disagree with me then you're proving my point.

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

A tacit admission comes from silence after he had promised to provide response. If you promise to investigate something, and do not then provide counter arguments to the evidence as laid before you, that can be taken as a tacit admission that there is no counter argument to be made, because otherwise you would make them in fulfilment of your obligations. Context is key here. Oaks set the expectation, he chose to engage, he promised to investigate. His failure to do so is relevant and telling. As for you, I make no promise to respond to your next comment, and likely won’t as I won’t be notified by KZbin if you respond or not because I have notifications turned off. I have chosen to make an initial response, and I’m now making it clear I will likely not be able to respond further due to time pressures. See how this works?

[@ajadamsv9208]

Nemo have you failed to understand that the corporate 501c3 is not expected to be honest. That question, “Are you honest in your dealings with your fellow man?”, is only for the lay members and not the fully vested employee and surely not the board members.

[@arelymeza8693]

Mi son was denied toooooo ….for not paying tithing… the bishop said that they need tithing for the second coming 🤨😤😂😂

[@TEAM__POSEID0N]

That's right. Jesus ain't coming back until he gets an acceptable compensation package offer from the Church...and Jesus's target is something in the high quadrillions. Plus he wants a fleet of super yachts, a fleet of luxury limousines, a luxury compound on every continent, 500 private jets, Olympic-size swimming pools at each of the compounds and a well-trained staff of 10,000 men and women to manage his property portfolio. None of that is cheap...and with only a few hundred billion dollars right now, the Church has a long, long way to go to meet the target.

[@missionledcontent]

I assumed you'd been excommunicated! I'm shocked they've even allowed you to stay in!

[@wagnerthesilva]

What if more members do the same? Do you have the letter so that we could do the same? And translate in other languages? In my case, in Portuguese. So it means that one should be faithful not to the principles of the gospel and Jesus Christ, rather to be loyal and obedient to the persons sitting on the presidency and the 12.

[@jewelgazer]

I think it’s an excellent idea for Nemo to share his letter with us and the world. It would be akin to the CES letter.

[@rebeccaking4493]

Sweetie, you know the church is false. You know the leaders are liars. You should know that trying to exercising your priesthood is about as valid and useful as me claiming I'm a bird and trying to fly. We would both be doing something foolish. You know the temple visits are boring as hell and a waste of time. What is it that you intend to accomplish? These men will NEVER admit wrong doing because the church would collapse if they did. Give yourself a pat on the back for your brave works and grand efforts. Know that we all appreciate your persistence and honesty. But do not mourn the loss of something you never really had.

[@TP-vu3tc]

I've been inactive for many years, but I was raised in the church. Not having a Temple recommend didn't stop a priesthood holder from using the priesthood in church.

[@kristinesharp6286]

So a 12 year can’t get a recommend but can be a priest? But an adult who can’t get a recommend can’t be a priest?

[@bryanpratt5850]

I admire your courage and integrity Nemo, and of course your honesty. Thank you. I am curious about your personal religious beliefs. What exactly do you believe about God and the LDS Church, Joseph Smith and the Restoration of the Priesthood, gospel, and the Book of Mormon? I was raised Mormon and I had my name removed. I used to believe Mormonism but found out it was false, so I researched the Bible and found out it’s actually God’s Word. God bless you.

[@kelliebporter]

I lied to renew my temple recommend so I could go to my daughter's Sealing. I know, I'm horrible. She, her husband and I have now left the church. Oh, well

[@KingPoseidon02]

You can exercise the Priesthood without a Temple Recommend. Unless you are on Church Probation or Church Disfellowshipped.

[@TheJanesaw]

Nemo could u please share what things you do believe about the church? I’d love to hear and know it.

[@joannvandenberg4792]

I remember that the leaders had said that if any learders are leading us a stray that they will be brought down. It looks like that is where a lot of the leaders are headed. If the church is true the crooked leaders will fall from grace.

[@HeathWeaver]

Maybe you could study and do a video on what Joseph Smith said about authority and using the priesthood. The church does have an administrative system, but it also is highly decentralized. The early church had none of these gatekeepers for the missionaries and early members. I’d be very interested of just how much you can do without “permission”. We know that there were a lot of splinter groups and power struggles. I think there is a lot to look at in that area and I think a lot of people would be willing to participate in ordinances with you. I’d also suggest at some point you coordinate a letter writing and public pressure campaign on these things.

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

This is a fascinating idea, I will take a look!

[@madogg152]

Denied: You reap what you sow.

[@anthonydurling4093]

I have the same issue. They won't let me do any of the things you mention, for the very reasons you have stated. Integrity over coercion

[@bonegrubber]

It'll be nice the day you finally come out and say you're done and admit the church is completely false.

[@keile513]

You’re my fave, kiddo.❤ keep doing what you do.

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Thank you, I will

[@jbishop72]

Mic drop Nemo

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

Thanks!

[@cherylw7531]

Love and respect to you, Nemo!

[@SuperGringo71]

I know people who have lied in their temple recommend interview. You can lie to the Bishop or the counselors in the Bishopric but you can't lie to Heavenly Father. Heavenly Father know everything. Nemo I am also a church member and my right have been suspended. When I got to the chapel I don't take the sacrament it was my personal decision. I hold dear to my covenants I made my Heavenly Father and I won't mock Him.

[@NEMOTHEMORMON]

It’s amazing how if you choose to be honest, you are often punished. It’s antithetical to the teachings on honesty