I was harassed by The Roanoke Police Department for taking pictures and video of a public elevator

This took place 12-09-2009 after watching • BUSTED: The Citizen's ... i feel i did a HORRIBLE job standing up for my rights.. I was in the Campbell court a PUBLIC building in Roanoke VA and I attempted to photograph the elevator. Well a gentleman from who worked there (the janitor) exited the elevator asking me what i was doing and I told him. He said that photography was not allowed due to 9/11 and i needed to stop taking pictures, which i did and then i left the building. Pondering about what happened, i was pretty pissed so THEN I went back in the building to ask the person WHO i needed to talk to to get permission. at this point the associate told me to "GET OUT OF HIS BUILIDING!" whcih you will hear in the moving photograph as i took out my camera (which he saw) to record the audio and he threatened to smash it as i was on the way out the building, I kept asking him who owned the building and how to get in touch and he said it was "on his shirt and to look it up in the phone book" (not captured on audio) THEN i went back in the building to get his name and left, on my way out, he told me I was going to jail.. about 5 mins later I was DOWN THE ROAD and got stopped by the police on my scooter and after a 20 minute conversation with the cops, a trespassing order (shown at the end of the video) was issued, BY THE POLICE, not valley metro as ironically i was actually on the phone with a valley metro supervisor to tell him how unprofessional his associate was acting which you will hear in the video during the part where the security guard asked me about taking pictures. ALSO the police told me i could not take their picture, and every time i brought out the camera they told me to put it away. In my opinion the Roanoke Police department were polite in dealing with me, but do not understand photographers rights, and the first amendment but then again it was a JANITOR that called 911 on me and started all this crap. I'm pretty certain that they have to investigate every 911 call. In my opinion the officers had NO right to tell me i could not photograph them. I hope somehow the Roanoke Police Department sees this video so they can train their officers on photographers rights. REMEMBER PHOTOGRAPHY IS NOT A CRIME!!
UPDATE!!:: I got a letter this week (of Jan 24th 2010) the trespassing order was VOIDED by the manager of the building and I now have permission to film the elevator. SO in this case, the right thing was done!!! a big THANK YOU to the manager!!! Facebook: / dieselducy
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[@thecarwashelevatorfanatic7433]

Bernard has since been fired! :)

[@hueymoss]

👍 the car wash

[@domino866]

hey do you have a video at the campbell court too?

[@thecarwashelevatorfanatic7433]

@@domino866 no I don’t. :(

[@reynaldochamorro8624]

he got the shamed on a public, because it will be trouble, they took pictures they are shame and pissing off

[@joepajewski6858]

Did Bernard get Fired I watched the whole video but did he get fired and was Dieselducy banned from that place

[@onhiatus526]

Remember: ELEVATOR PHOTOGRAPHY IS NOT A CRIME!

[@finnishelevators-t4m]

that's right! The police is trying to get fired,

[@mamabear0408]

Luckily he’s way more popular in 2024 then his is back in 2009

[@iangilldjsuperdude]

Exactly!

[@saturnDean]

This just proves how mean, arrogant, tyrannical, unfair, and stupid people can be to others. I'm sorry this happened to you DieselDucy.

[@MINIONMATTHEW]

You’re right 😤

[@DaSamNudge]

That happened to me today at the Colorado Mills. I tried to film the elevator in the FREAKING PARKING GARAGE and security came up and was all like "We have a no filming policy on mall property I can see that, but IT'S A FREAKING PARKING GARAGE!!! HOW CAN I VIOLATE ANYONE'S SECURITY LIKE THAT?!?!

[@gregrocks66]

The mall sucks, no filming policy, forget them, why is it illegal to film? Oh yeah thats right, ITS NOT

[@OPG2711]

gregrocks66 Due to the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, Photography is not allowed in some private places.

[@DaSamNudge]

gregrocks66 At least I am allowed to film at Southwest Plaza and the Park Meadows mall

[@elevatordailies]

Was it a Simon property?

[@Ih8kone]

@@OPG2711 Bullshit. I'll take pictures wherever I damn well please.

[@pegcityelevators999]

I remember back on August 24, 2019, I filmed an elevator at the Viscount Gort Hotel in Winnipeg, Manitoba. As I got off when I stopped filming, some stupid janitor went and told the front desk on me for video taping. And the front desk said, “no filming on public property”. That statement makes no sense to me.

[@ElevatingArizonaByGageWilliams]

The hotel front desk was wrong on that statement. The hotel is not public property, it is private property.

[@dmvelevatorsandmore]

That situation happened to me back in February. The guy said that it was a "public" building, yet I needed permission to film

[@craigbrowning9448]

As another ASD, I worry about the police. Once I was driving a friend home in West Oakland and this friend had me taking a route that I wasn't used to and calling turns at the lest minute, which made a Sheriff think I was inebriated. When he looked at me, he noticed that my eyes didn't focus evenly (another disability), they pulled me out of the car for a Field Sobriety Test, which fortunately I passed (I am a "Straight Ass" where drugs and alcohol are concerned). My passenger was a bit drunk. Fortunately I was able to drive away from the indecent, but I would like to get some disabled certification (for hidden disabilities) that will hopefully help with future potential issues. Nonetheless modern cops worry me, I am enough of a male Caucasian to seem "normal" as long as I don't have to talk too much or have them see me move too much. As someone that plays music with a fair number of African-American friends and colleges, the concern of dangerous police actions is ever-present,

[@sherrimorstein8693]

I’m really sorry this happened to you. All of those people were not being fair to you. I feel so bad for you buddy!

[@aidenMCE]

I agree

[@elevatorsareamazing9379]

That was so mean how that man treated you when you attempted to film the elevator. I remember watching this video back when I was younger.

[@iank1221]

Wow some people are rude

[@TheElevatorandAirplaneFinder]

Agreed

[@SamSitar]

what are they smoking?

[@grantedklass777]

ThreeBearPancake yep

[@elijahtorres2688]

Sadly

[@BJMediaTransit8516]

PHOTOGRAPHY IS NOT A CRIME!

[@mbtandelevators5755]

MP.4 Channel Exactly. I once was busted at the Burlington Mall. Burlington Mall Workers and Security's and Employees don't like it when people film. Then again it's a Simon Mall.

[@chesterholland5909]

Unless 1st Amendment right gets changed

[@edgarmartinez7371]

@@mbtandelevators5755 I agree. I feel that the company takes our photography rights away for no reason.

[@thecarwashelevatorfanatic7433]

The Fitchburg Railfann Simon malls hate elevator photography, i got kicked out of Macy’s in the Pheasant Lane Mall in Nashua NH for filming their elevator.

[@ElevatingArizonaByGageWilliams]

@@thecarwashelevatorfanatic7433 same for me at macys at tucson mall

[@loockandfield]

you did not have to stop filming you can point the camera anywhere you like you are in a public area and he is a public servant

[@romeoomg9944]

Andrew Loock same

[@grantedklass777]

Same

[@kamhiquet64]

14:42 Why would someone say that about elevator photography. That's just wrong.

[@elevatortoiletandtransitfa9258]

Yeah, I agree big time. That is nothing suspicious in any way whatsoever.

[@Tiger21820]

8 years later and Bernard got fired for being a douch to the legendary elevator photographer, DieselDucy! :)

[@MediaUniverse-om6zk]

That's right.

[@NeilPrasad_1905]

@@MediaUniverse-om6zk Wait. He actually got fired?

[@Dwall44]

Yes he was.

[@johnbreighner5852]

Wait...Bernard got fired EIGHT years later after this???? Why wasn't he fired after his boss (The building's manager) found out about his behavior towards DieselDucy, who did absolutely nothing that was criminal?? Unless of course, that is, if Bernard most likely had a similar stunt that he pulled on someone else the same eight years later, and THAT'S when the building's manager found out the true nature of his "Janitor" himself.

[@chrisgabrilska8336]

Clearly idk what is it with people getting offended with photography,just remember photography is not a crime.

[@DieselDucy]

Agreed

[@dentonthaves5216]

You do not have to turn off the camera if the police ask you to do so it's your right to record the police in a public space don't be so stupid know your rights.

[@EthantheYouTuber2009]

That employee doesn't really understand what crimes are, taking pictures is not a crime, crimes are stuff like taking things from stores without paying, setting things on fire, drugs, etc.

[@Rfc1394]

The courts have held that citizens have the right to record interactions with police. And the public has every right to record from a public street anything they can see. Police officers wearing body cams protect police against false complaints and citizens against misconduct, it should also work for citizens too.

[@DieselDucy]

+Paul Robinson I learned a lot since then. Now I will never stop recording

[@cjcompton9410]

@@DieselDucyI would feel scared if that happened to me

[@jacobew2000]

1) do not answer questions 2) do not stop recording 3) exert your civil rights immediately and demand to be on your way. 4) if you are not lawfully detained, do not show ID! 5) be ready to go to jail for #4...

[@LittleRockElevators]

I forgot to add one more. I can understand if he was filming like a courtroom case, inside a FBI building or even a highly restricted area of a building. When I film an elevator (depends on where) I wait until I get right to the elevator and then begin recording. I even filmed elevators that has security cameras in them but haven't got caught.

[@MeaghanEdwards]

That rent-a-cop's a real Barney Fife (without the warmth and hilarity).

[@mrm10199]

Andrew can you touch up on Bernards firing. You said on a live stream your incident was the main reason he was fired but there was more reasons why he was fired. Can you disclose what the other reasons were. Also was he fired immediately right after the incident or was suspended then fired?

[@blue.light.fazbear]

At least the order was voided. But this is clearly totally not right

[@CSKsynthwave]

You must have been terrified! One time at my school in photography class I pointed my camera at a police car and he looked at me. I was so scared!

[@wndrtch]

They had no f**king right to do that that was legal to do what you did

[@ElevatingArizonaByGageWilliams]

First, the janitor called security. Then, security called the police. That’s the chain reaction of what happened in this video

[@TheUKTransportBlogger]

i hate how they call it suspicious activity what about the police who film shows like Road wars and police interceptors its exactly the same

[@seanjuth]

You Know what's sad? people don't suspect a thing when you're filming with your phone but when someone pulls out a big camera then they get all antsy about it and start harassing you.

[@mariokart8715]

More people are filming with their mobile devices nowadays. Other than movie and TV studios.

[@ChrisNicholas1]

DIESELDUCY: Remember, photography is not a crime. ME: We know. We do. 15:07

[@elevatorsinrussia2597]

This is stupid! The janitor is very rude! Worst janitor ever!

[@nicholasfriedrichs6525]

The janitor is a total pervert who is trying to be all cool when he is a idiot.

[@elevatorsinrussia2597]

Yeah

[@concert_etiquette]

That's the point of janitors XD

[@thecarwashelevatorfanatic7433]

ElevatorsinRussia and the cops were jerks as well.

[@moose9784]

Photography is NOT a "suspicious activity." I do it all the time!

[@xHadesStamps]

@SNOWDROP10NYCTISALSOVERNONBLV Never ever ever ever go inside of a broken lift for any reason, unless you're the contracted repairman and are going in to fix them, or if you know it is an incredibly simple thing wrong.

[@elevatordailies]

Bernard no longer works there from what I understand. He should have been fired or at least given a verbal warning for his behavior.

[@DieselDucy]

+The Elevator Daily he is gone

[@jonathancreveling5658]

@@DieselDucy I'm glad he's gone, he was so mean to you

[@EscalatorsElevators]

​@@jonathancreveling5658I agree and yes he deserves to be fired and plus he is just an IDIOT!!!!!

[@dylancamps4922]

​@@jonathancreveling5658That means he Got Fired that dude was a jackass I like elavators too

[@alexthephotographer9314]

I’m an elevator photographer and I’m afraid of doing more because I’m afraid of getting busted by security. I really don’t understand why some people don’t understand that photography is not a crime

[@elevcarwashsirensandmore21]

I've been busted big time just for an elevator in a parking garage. This is getting ridiculous

[@davidgessler]

Oh man! Dieselducy had been cited by the janitor. His name was Bernard.

[@judithchavezdealfaro1536]

So when did it go back to the elevator

[@domohobo]

Do you have some elevators from Hollins University? My sister goes there ad I am a big fan of yours, and I am always up there. I was starting to think to start filming elevators. Do you have any advice top give?

[@ElevatingArizonaByGageWilliams]

Houston is always like that, even at the Williams Tower in the Galleria Uptown District, And also the JPMorgan Chase Tower And Wells Fargo tower in Downtown Houston

[@metro_via_transit]

I took METRORail photography and never got caught

[@JimLiElevators]

METRO VIA Transit Because METRORail is a public transit facility. You have every right to photograph just make sure you do not capture anybody on Camera as there may be sketchy people on board the train cab.

[@chrisgabrilska8336]

@@JimLiElevatorsdefinitely

[@chrisgabrilska8336]

Those are usually private buildings try to be careful they can’t call the police for that and say you where trespassing

[@metro_via_transit]

0:09 literally Jamie Macdonald when he sees any VIA transit photographers

[@SlinkySim]

My favorite memory of Roanoke is of the day I moved away from there.

[@byronchavarria4954]

Always Ask For An Attorney And Remain Silent If Questioned By Police

[@midnightclubshow4332]

Taking pictures is NOT a crime

[@CrazyOnTheWall]

He just wanted pictures of the elevator.

[@SheWhoLovesPineapple]

who calls the cops over someone taking pictures of weird shit? they must call the cops on every foreign tourist...

[@Spaceshotx7]

The janitor thinks he is a security guard, and a person of authority. A janitor is supposed to maintain the building, not be a figure of authority. Why should it be his business to tell people not to photograph the place?

[@jonathancreveling5658]

He was supposed to clean the building too, and keep it maintained

[@mariokart8715]

This building is now non-existent.

[@Spaceshotx7]

@@mariokart8715 They demolished the building? Why?

[@mariokart8715]

No it’s not; it just listed. It’s staying for now.

[@pepsifan8504]

That is unfair that they kicked you out of a building for filing an ABSOLUTELY PUBLIC elevator

[@camelevators7762]

That is really crazy how that happened! I used to watch this video back in 2020 and that is by the time I noticed this. I can't believe you got kicked out of that building. You did the right thing though, and I was actually on your live stream last week and you were actually mentioning about this. I'm assuming you were taking pictures of the elevator right before you started the video. And then right after leaving the building and calling Valley Metro, you got caught by the police for doing this. This should not be this way of how this happened! But once again and most of all, PHOTOGRAPHY IS NOT A CRIME!!!!

[@DieselDucy]

Yep. This experience encouraged me to learn my rights.

[@Wikkler]

That's stupid. Now I know I shouldn't trust the local police... or film an elevator.

[@josephmaller592]

I feel really sorry for this guy.

[@josephmaller592]

@KJMB KJMB 2005 What do you mean?

[@josephmaller592]

@KJMB KJMB 2005 he got a ticket for not doing a crime. Photography is not a crime.

[@josephmaller592]

@KJMB KJMB 2005 I think you need to watch the entire video again!

[@22408aaron]

Let me ask... was Bernard acting like he owned that place?

[@chrisgabrilska8336]

Yes he did

[@ManicEightBall]

I feel sad that you ever had to go through that. It seems to be happening to more and more photographers, so I want to give you a little advice. (no, I'm not a lawyer). 1) If they ask you to leave, just leave. It's not a good idea to go back in and escalate the situation. 2) Never talk to the police. 3) Never never talk to the police. You gain nothing by talking to the cops. Finally, you will probably save a lot of trouble by asking for permission ahead of time, just to be practical.

[@XxchimeloxX]

I almost got caught filming an elevator back in 2016

[@Neilukuk]

it was sad to see you put the camera down when he asked :(

[@MrCarl220]

Was it dismissed because the information on the trespass was wrong? I had a nyc ticket dismissed once because the officer filled it out with the wrong information on my license plate and description. Good job!

[@elevatorfreak112]

what does he mean we've had this discussion before

[@jamesackley6653]

Did you know, Dieselducy that I've been stopped by the York Area Regional Police Department on the Powder Mill Road bridge twice.

[@efanthomastransportelevati3383]

now that was scary. that security guard just bully you for fillming

[@ElevatingArizonaByGageWilliams]

2:05 they wanna know why you’re taking pictures

[@steveo288]

"Put their head on a naked body" Wow! Talk about fishing for an appropriate lie. What a laugh that was!

[@chrisgabrilska8336]

People are just sick for saying that

[@RealMarcFoxx]

@SCORRRPION49 As a practicing law enforcement officer I can tell you that while private is easy to settle (owner has all rights), not all public buildings are created equal. And, even in a public building, you may be required to obtain the proper permits to film inside. Why do you think movie studios get permits and permission to film on streets, sidewalks, in public parks, and in public buildings? Because they have to. Public does not mean you can do whatever you want.

[@kevinchamberlain7928]

That is one filthy pinky nail/coke shovell you got there boy! (14:25) You need jailing for that alone!

[@alexstanton4944]

Don't let this happen to you...

[@user-marco-S]

If photograph and filming is not allowed in that building, then where is that en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prohibition_of_photographing.gif sign?

[@TheNrwskyrock]

ELEVATOR PHOTOGRAPHY IS NOT A CRIME!!!!

[@ElevatingArizonaByGageWilliams]

Same thing happened to me at the tucson mall where they kicked me out for a day for filming their elevators and escalators

[@DieselDucy]

A mall is private property though. They can restrict what goes on in their property.

[@mariokart8715]

Not every one, just some. Mainly ones owned by SIMON.

[@dmvelevatorsandmore]

@@mariokart8715 Simon now allows noncommercial photography. There are still plenty of malls with no filming policies, but most of them are fine now.

[@coondogtheman]

Andrew I think the manager of the building is a fan of your channel. I bet he was like: hey I know that guy that's DieselDucy. Absolutely he can film the elevators.

[@tjs2014]

coondogtheman1234 Eh Diesel Ducy wasn't as well known then outside the elevators community

[@dariusandrade5801]

I haven’t seen anything like that in 11 years!

[@07szim]

You have the right to record any public official in public, search state laws due to private / wire-tapping laws.

[@elevcarwashsirensandmore21]

That security guard seems extremely rude

[@DieselDucy]

He was a Jerk.

[@ilovelolsurprise3419]

That was Bernard?

[@elevcarwashsirensandmore21]

@@ilovelolsurprise3419 The Security Guard was not Bernard

[@ilovelolsurprise3419]

@@elevcarwashsirensandmore21 OH the security guard. Nvm (I think the guy who was asking y he was taking pictures)

[@DiscordC]

They do NOT need to see your ID unless you have committed a crime or have probable cause against. KNOW YOUR RIGHTS.

[@MikeJones-oe3do]

Lets face it not everybody understands your interest in elevators

[@chesterholland5909]

He needs to quit

[@appleleptiker]

And? He can still Film an Elevator. Photography is Not a Crime.

[@appleleptiker]

@@chesterholland5909 He has over 60 Thousand People that understand it.

[@Ih8kone]

Yeah and not everyone understands that if someone's face is in fact shown on camera that it can be blurred.

[@wcbuck470]

My my.............that janitor is his own piece of trash. He was a idiot with that attitude, maybe he will get decked one day and thrown off that 3rd floor.

[@ElevatingArizonaByGageWilliams]

1:18 Hey you, right there!! I asked you to leave my building, that’s what you need to do! You’re recording stuff, I don’t know what you’re recording of, but you can’t record me without my permission!

[@Donnie-wk4lw]

Excuse Me For My Expression! But The Roanoke Police Needs Some Help! God,For Me, I Think Elevator Photography Ain't Suspicious Activity.

[@scotterman1000]

what is the update on this dieselducy thank you scott erman

[@exoticcar5482]

The trespassing order was voided a long time ago and he now has permission to film here

[@Gamerguy2154]

Bro your vids are Great why do they think that's a crime that guy was rude if I were you I would call the cops on him and if he did actually smash your camera then I would call the cops as well to tell them that is photography is not a crime I've done it before even know I don't do it on my channel I'm still done it before not got in trouble

[@kevinhoungueh4679]

Im sorry that happened

[@thompsonong]

what did he say after you say have a nice day??

[@Cool32216]

1:17 Tackle him! (by the way the guy said "right there!" that he was about to tackle him to the ground)

[@kacylangevin4440]

Cool32216 😱😱😱😱Police keep you safer

[@elevatingusa4457]

Hopefully elevator photography is more understood now

[@EscalatorElevator-I4z]

Oh my god, I feel really bad that this happened to you Andrew, take care

[@DieselDucy]

yep. it was pathetic.

[@snmgurl72]

why are you even answering their questions?

[@byronchavarria4954]

Jonathan H. He Had The Right To Remain Silent

[@mustange550]

The police seem to get more Aggressive the more you prove them wrong.

[@stormspotter67]

i love photography. but after 9/11.. i am very hesitent on what i film and take pictures of. i love taking pics of things like semi trucks and trains. but soemone can claim its unsafe for the US or some bullshit. i dont understand photographers rights anymore either... im 19 and was guna get into freelance, but the laws are what is stopping me.

[@ZHD1987E]

In Singapore some buildings can be pissy about security and will regard lift filming as suspicious and illegal. I was busted at a Sheraton for filming their lifts despite NO signs telling me not to film! They took a photo of my ID card and asked me to delete videos as if I am in some protected place where photography is banned. Reason? Concerned over terrorism and security. Really? Can a lift enthusiast try to plot explosives? All he/she does is ride lifts and nothing else! Also bear in mind I looked into a machine room through a publicly accessible door which has a vision panel; security accused me of OPENING the damn door even though I did not, then continued to harass me EVEN THOUGH the lifts are operating which means I can access any floor. This was in a shopping mall which is still accessible even though it is dead. Sad state of affairs. Transport enthusiasts and even planespotters now deal with such strict ‘security’.

[@DieselDucy]

Yeah. Totally.

[@RapsCalorie]

I only want to know one thing.......ARE you an elevator photographer? That's a field I need to get into.

[@ceebuster5054]

Also When I Go To SM, The Security Said We're Not Allowed To Take Pictures

[@DieselDucy]

wow.

[@TheBarerOfBadNews]

If you don't stand your ground, how can you say youre right?

[@sollows1]

WOW! that would never happen in canada unless you were in a theater or an art gallery!

[@davandstudios]

"Some people" No victim, no crime

[@mrmustangman]

"I'm an elevator photographer"....

[@SummerADDE]

Actually, How is the Photagraphy law? What is rigth and what is wrong in U.S.

[@ZZ9ProductionsOFFICIAL]

there's a ton of trolls in this comment section...

[@Jimmy06blue]

1:54 was that the guy who threatened diesel ducy?

[@Ih8kone]

No

[@planesofhawaii]

Yes

[@BradfordAdams]

just a word to the wise, You mentioned in the video, that you had never had been in trouble with police, now I am not a normal watcher of your videos so I am not sure if you have ever had run ins with them before, but as of now after this incident you have a record, even if you think you don't you do. I also want to point out if you get pulled over again soon that you will be treated allot differently because this order for unlawful trespass that you have will be the first thing on the screen of the officer that runs your plate or uses the facial recognition camera (that are standard issue on new police cars) as you are driving down the street and if they feel like you don't belong in the area you are driving you will get pulled over much faster than before. Please do not take this as some joke or conspiracy theory, these are facts of today! Please just be careful now! I don't want to read about you being shot or arrested for standing up for your rights.

[@DieselDucy]

The whole thing was actually dropped and I got a letter from the city saying this should have not happened. I have since have had no issues.

[@missourielevators9252]

***** if I was one of those Roanoke police officers I would say let him take our picture we work for him and he's exercising his first amendment rights I would have told Bernard Andrew's not doing anything wrong by Virginia state law. This is ridiculous. I agree with Andrew that the building is public. You need to stop calling 911 for stupid reasons like this or I will arrest you for abusing 911 with this dumb call. Don't make me come back here. Then I would say Andrew your free to go go continue filming I got your back if there's anymore trouble like this here's my business card you can let me know and I'll handle it

[@MingleMingle53]

+DieselDucy 14:44 gross! You need to cut your nails, man!

[@missourielevators9252]

*****​ As an American citizen he has every right to film police because it's part of his first amendment rights. He also has the right to take all the pictures he wants

[@missourielevators9252]

***** Exactly.

[@davidgessler]

Whatsoever the janitor behind threatened to call the Roanoke Police

[@AMDXplusplus]

Photography is NOT A CRIME!!!

[@EDISONTECH]

12:24 that made me crack up xD

[@okami912]

Why do cops get so nervous when a camera is pointed at them?

[@DieselDucy]

Because they are actually held accountable for their actions,

[@tangofizz77]

Photography is a still Photo, Filmography is a moving picture

[@VArailfan89]

"OK, now you about to go to jail!" Wow, talk about making a big deal out of nothing! That janitor you spoke of was way out of line. I feel that he shouldn't have called the police on you, you did nothing wrong. Photography is not a crime, plain and simple.

[@mariokart8715]

SPS8 elevators of lake county and Northern Illinois Elevators got into similar incidents while filming elevators in apartment buildings.

[@DieselDucy]

Yeah. The police can be very nasty.