I was WRONG about Autotune?

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Jonathan Young's Studio

Jonathan Young's Studio

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@jonathanymusic
@jonathanymusic 2 жыл бұрын
What videos should I make next on this channel? :)
@andrewhatch164
@andrewhatch164 2 жыл бұрын
Speedrun Song Writing
@ssjbardock123
@ssjbardock123 2 жыл бұрын
A rig rundown would be cool, seeing the different instruments you use.
@MyNeLi_cr
@MyNeLi_cr 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if you're good in stuff crafting but, videos of you trying to make an instrument could be fun to watch ! :3
@ReverseBacktwo
@ReverseBacktwo 2 жыл бұрын
Your headphone experience, would love to see what you of when buying headphones
@Murzac
@Murzac 2 жыл бұрын
Bagels vs Croissants.
@schnurrbert6163
@schnurrbert6163 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see some Singing Tutorials next! Preferrably with a focus on Gritty/Raspy Vocals as heard in your Rock/Metal songs. That would be awesome!
@davidguthriemusic
@davidguthriemusic 2 жыл бұрын
so while this is a functional way to use Melodyne, my favorite (and imo, most effective) way to tune vocals is using Melodyne in the standalone program form (not as a VST in a DAW). The standalone version of Melodyne runs so much better, and scans audio files loaded into it almost instantly just like this technique--and there's no hassle with tracks or anything so you can just focus on one vocal track at a time (and in Melodyne Editor and above, you can have multiple tracks if you want). You can just dump the vocal track into Melodyne standalone, tune everything, and then export it as a WAV and dump it in the DAW. If you need to make changes, just re-open the Melodyne project and re-export as the same file name (takes like, 10 seconds maybe) and the file will auto-update in your DAW. If you're not using ARA editing, standalone makes so much more sense unless you just hate having multiple programs open or something. I also really like having all the undo layers not get mixed up between undoing DAW changes and undoing tuning changes--having the vocal tuning in an entirely separate project means I can't accidentally screw it up. Anyway, just my two cents haha!
@jonathanyoungsstudio
@jonathanyoungsstudio 2 жыл бұрын
this is a great idea, but you can kinda do the same thing directly in the DAW if you just print pitch correction by bouncing the track after you correct it :)
@brucethelen9977
@brucethelen9977 2 жыл бұрын
I really want to see anything that involves any kind of studio work, literally anything from building the rooms to choosing mics, cables, and other equipment, to deciding how you prioritize your studio work. Show me anything you want to show me of any kind of working in the studio. Keep the vids coming. Watching the Caleb Hyles album release was fun to see how you reacted to the songs you hadn’t heard. 🖤
@Arceaus98
@Arceaus98 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you include your response to the person's comment just going "WHAT" lol, I can already hear in my head you reading that comment and having the realization
@patgar1368
@patgar1368 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who is an amateur (and by amateur, I mean no experience whatsoever) in using these kinds of programs for pitch correcting or recording in general, I'm very glad to have found this out so early on! Thanks for the video, Jon!
@Sharry393
@Sharry393 2 жыл бұрын
First things first: I really enjoy that you not only made a whole video about telling people your experience and hope that they won't do the same mistakes, but now that you added this one, explaining what you learned! I think it shows so greatly, thatnobody knows everything and that we all need to continue learning, even in subjects we 'think' we know all about, and that making mistakes isn't a big deal, but just human. Love it, that you talk about your experience to help other people! Really shows how great of a human you are.
@adamesposti6032
@adamesposti6032 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Would love to see a full mix tutorial on this channel!!
@chris4839
@chris4839 2 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed
@BeingBetter
@BeingBetter 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@dakota7025
@dakota7025 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet! Can't wait to see the up and coming content!
@LaRanaMordaz
@LaRanaMordaz 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that you take the time to share back these tips for others
@VaizardDaishi
@VaizardDaishi 2 жыл бұрын
I would actually like to see how you mix your stuff! I've watched tons of videos on mixing, but I just feel I don't have a ear for it. However, I've also found that even when paying big $$$ others aren't really making my tracks always what I want to hear.
@CreativeMindsAudio
@CreativeMindsAudio 2 жыл бұрын
oh yeah this is a common tip most audio engineers do. Also a huge plus about melodyne is that you can use it for several things at once besides JUST pitch. it has some incredible amplitude and sibilance control it will filter out the 's' sounds so you can see it and not even include it with the pitch correcting (less artifacts). This also allows for easy automation and de-essing and tuning/timing control all in one app. It is way easier than using the DAW I find. Though i ONLY use this when I'm already tuning the song. Otherwise I don't want the sound of the tuning plugin to be put on the track. That being said I do feel that logic and cubase both have some good built in tuners, but they are less transparent than melodyne and less powerful. good for subtle tuning. I don't think that the benefits of melodyne are worth it for most musician users. Engineers? Definitely!
@oblivion6390
@oblivion6390 2 жыл бұрын
I don't make music or ever used or heard of any of this, yet it is still extremely interesting when he expans it, keep up the amazing work
@PolygonAlley
@PolygonAlley 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's going to save me loads of time. Cheers 👌
@datboijoey2088
@datboijoey2088 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to do this method in Ableton Live 9-10-11 all you do is run melodyne in a track, click Transfer... right click and freeze track. Once frozen, unfreeze track and bam, you have done it!!!
@Khamydrian
@Khamydrian 2 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE A SAINT! OH MY GOD THANK YOU SO MUCH! XD XD XD
@datboijoey2088
@datboijoey2088 2 жыл бұрын
@@Khamydrian ya no problem had the same issue so I tried into I found out how to do it
@danzirvine
@danzirvine 2 жыл бұрын
if you use Live Enhancement Suite then alt F will freeze and unfreeze the track
@breakingtherelapse
@breakingtherelapse 2 жыл бұрын
ARA Melodyne crashes my projects sometimes as well. I've learned to just deal with it and render out final edits since I like the results it gets me.
@TheRexisFern
@TheRexisFern 2 жыл бұрын
The take away here is 'fill your toolbox with the basics, learn how to use em through study and questions, and grow from there'. That's some good learning!
@jacobtooley8688
@jacobtooley8688 2 жыл бұрын
I've been a fan for years didn't you make a video saying that everybody uses like pitch correction when they're making an album anyways. Your amazing. I miss back in the day like the '80s I'm not that old but or no one used to pitch correction or do they even use it back then
@IceBen4444
@IceBen4444 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused about this pitch correction method, do they on purpose "hide" instant scanning behind a paywall? There is no reason at all for the computer to listen to your track, it sounds like a very made-up problem baked into the software.
@shaboogen
@shaboogen 2 жыл бұрын
The reason the computer can't listen to the track is because audio effects only have access to audio going through them and the DAW controls things like transport etc. The reason the bounce trick works is because the audio is being played by the DAW and heard by the plugin, it's just being heard at offline bounce speed. This is why if you have a reverb tail that goes beyond the time that you're bouncing, you'll hear it after you bounce the audio. As David Guthrie Music said in another comment, they will automatically scan audio when loaded standalone. This is because in standalone, they have complete control of all of the information and aren't bound by the rules of the DAW. This is the problem that ARA (Audio Random Access) was designed to solve. An ARA compliant plugin has the ability to access audio data for the entire song at once as opposed to just what they are listening to, hence the reason why they don't have to scan. The functionality isn't gated behind a paywall here, it's actually already been fixed in a version that Jonathan has access to, but as he said both in the previous video and this one, the ARA version crashes his system.
@lgsscout196
@lgsscout196 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even use Melodyne/Autotune, but this trick can be useful in future things with other plugins...
@BunniBuu
@BunniBuu 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you a million times for sharing this. Seriously
@midtown3221
@midtown3221 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you LA Winter for making us all a little smarter, even if most of us don't even have Melodyne, Autotune or Logic Pro.
@duskfallmusic
@duskfallmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't actually done a lot of singing on my music that i make, but maybe i should check pitching on spoken word ? - I did Sun Traveller under "The Void Crew" on spotify as an Endwalker/FFXIV inspired song, and i wasn't sure if i should be pitching spoken word or not if it wasn't rap.
@rianlynn3854
@rianlynn3854 2 жыл бұрын
this is so cool of you to do a follow up and help everyone out =D
@Ban_Akai
@Ban_Akai 2 жыл бұрын
How to do that kind of stuff in FL: - So first thing you wanna do is selecting the part you want to scan in the playlist (by double clicking at the beginning of your track and dragging all the way to the end of it in the ruler above every track) - Then make sure you put melodyne on the same bus as your track and that you enabled transfer - You go on the little arrow all the way on top left of your mixer (top left of "master" bus) and then go on disk recording (make sure "apply track level and mute audio" is enabled so you can just mute the tracks you don't wanna record) - Then Render to WAV file (If it is greyed, you can click the tiny circle on the bottom of the bus you want to transfer that says "record -idk what-" and then go back to disk recording) And there you go melodyne recorded the whole tracks within a sec or two There may be better ways if you guys wanna try but this one works so why not !
@RacingStripeAV
@RacingStripeAV 2 жыл бұрын
As a longtime Logic Pro user myself, I still was unaware Flex Pitch was even a thing - I've always been using the stock Pitch Correction plugin (which itself is... not bad, but pretty limiting in places). As far as video ideas go.. perhaps one looking at Logic's other stock plugins and comparing them to the more costly third-party ones? I've noticed that music KZbinrs have a tendancy to go "here are some of the plugins you need to make music (cheap, free, expensive, or otherwise), even though DAWs tend to have their own equivalents pre-installed, some of which in my experience are pretty decent on their own. Heck, everything I produce is still done with Logic Pro's stock plugins; and sure, while they don't sound "professional-grade", it does come close in my opinion.
@mTucci
@mTucci 2 жыл бұрын
Loving these tips.. really curious in seeing your setup and workflow for producing covers at lighting speed.. also still rocking starship velociraptor 🤘
@EveMizgala
@EveMizgala 2 жыл бұрын
This video paired with the first one is a great example of Cunningham's Law.
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
@WatashiMachineFullCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit I didn't know melodyne could do that you just BLEW MY MIND
@Oriansenshi
@Oriansenshi 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing that after all this time you are still willing to be a student of the craft you spend so much time in and learn new tricks and techniques.
@thomasineallen4723
@thomasineallen4723 2 жыл бұрын
Since you asked, I think you should try some kind of tutorial or singing lesson or something, or even talk about how you got into singing and learned / gained confidence in it, anything like that would be interesting and useful for me to hear... Any music production tuts/tips would be cool too!
@toddbarriage
@toddbarriage 2 жыл бұрын
that snap in the intro was fRESH
@13630
@13630 2 жыл бұрын
I'd forgotten how much I missed your ending click!
@ZohondeKids
@ZohondeKids 2 жыл бұрын
This is an insanely cool trick! I'll keep note of it if I ever switch DAWs, since the DAW I use now actually supports ARA and automatically detects audio anyway. Btw, a tip for anyone having trouble with ARA in Reaper. Add Melodyne as a take effect instead of a track effect. I've found that using it on a whole track can create some weird bugs if you have multiple instances, whereas having it as take FX on the individual takes themselves gives me no problems, even on my biggest of projects. :)
@marybdrake1472
@marybdrake1472 2 жыл бұрын
It's good that you got such helpful information Jon.
@jwhtewolfd
@jwhtewolfd 2 жыл бұрын
I don't use DAWs or pitch correction, but I'm glad I watched this video b/c that snap out got me all nostalgic for those early basement videos.
@ShagShaggio
@ShagShaggio 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, gotta love helpful strangers on the internet! Cheers!
@blastbeatsincorporated7875
@blastbeatsincorporated7875 2 жыл бұрын
Jon, thank you for this video. Your years of suffering have led to me learning about this shortcut, for that I'm forever thankful. Rock on. 🤘🏻
@rawen160
@rawen160 2 жыл бұрын
A bit unrelated note. As a completely not musical person, I have great amount of respect for people who can listen to themselves singing, multiple times, without the temptation of shooting their head off.
@HitWaveMusic
@HitWaveMusic 2 жыл бұрын
That's super cool for those on Logic Pro... Does nothing for me in Pro Tools on a PC.
@datboijoey2088
@datboijoey2088 2 жыл бұрын
I'm saying lmao I'm on Ableton
@Drarok
@Drarok 2 жыл бұрын
I'm only a very casual bedroom producer, but these sort of tips are INVALUABLE. Thanks, Jon!
@Ban_Akai
@Ban_Akai 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to do that in FL ? o:
@christiannorton9400
@christiannorton9400 2 жыл бұрын
Both of these plugins work in FL Studio 20. I don't own them but Google said they're compatible lol but if you're talking the specifics of bouncing etc I believe you do that in FL by "consolidating" the track with the plugin active
@jonathanyoungsstudio
@jonathanyoungsstudio 2 жыл бұрын
look for a "bounce track in place" feature!
@Ban_Akai
@Ban_Akai 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanyoungsstudio Thank you, i found how to do that, gonna leave another comment so people can find out !
@drummonret
@drummonret 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! So here's a special drummer asking : I bought a roland td27, but I only have audacity and I am dumb as unable to input the midi track into.. Also all my friends use differents tools like Cubase or Logic or Protools etc. So, my question is : Which program should I buy to EASILY put my poumctchak weird shit (from Trivium, Townsend, Udo, to Abba and Exutoires...) to my computer in midi or any files to allow all dudes to use it, and work it without years of plenty of time to learn it? BIG THANKS for helping
@vetackstudios2778
@vetackstudios2778 2 жыл бұрын
Spiffy, will likely use this myself. Thanks much!
@gabrielgama2892
@gabrielgama2892 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not much of a money having person, so I use trial versions of these plugins. Yesterday I installed the latest (trial) version of Melodyne. As I was about to run my track through the plugin, I remembered your video, and thought "oh crap, I forgot about that", but I needed it so I went with it. However, to my surprise, when I ran Melodyne, the track was already loaded. I didn't do anything I hadn't done before, it just scanned automatically. I can't find any "scan" option either, it's just already there.
@charlesritzmusic
@charlesritzmusic 2 жыл бұрын
this is a game changer WOW
@CaseySabol
@CaseySabol 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like Waves Tune more than AutoTune and Melodyne because it allows you to manually draw. So, say you're recording a singer whose vibrato sucks balls and you want it to be nice and even - you can draw that in. Or say you don't like how a singer slid into a note...you can fix that curve manually.
@JamesonTylerBynum
@JamesonTylerBynum 2 жыл бұрын
BRUH. Lifesaver
@MrSHADOWANGEL999
@MrSHADOWANGEL999 2 жыл бұрын
another awesome episode
@papakoala9168
@papakoala9168 2 жыл бұрын
1:03 is happening as we speak my man it's a shame really. The tech seems really cool though!
@cp368productions2
@cp368productions2 2 жыл бұрын
That's too much work. But then I do pretty much only trains and videos related to them (kind of obvious from my picture). The only songs I have done were just for fun to do them, Christmas songs at Christmas time the last two years and the Star Spangled Banner recorded to fireworks footage I recorded for the 4th of July. All Acapella and raw, just record and upload, but like I said, it's just for fun, not to make money.
@23DEATHNUMBER
@23DEATHNUMBER 2 жыл бұрын
Following along the lines of this perhaps what video editing software you use and tricks you learned along the way?
@SamuelJGleason
@SamuelJGleason 2 жыл бұрын
What do you recommend for de-esser plugins?
@joshuabarnett6500
@joshuabarnett6500 2 жыл бұрын
Will this work with Studio One Professional
@MrMitchfromtoronto
@MrMitchfromtoronto 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this !!! I can now not have to use ear plugs when my gf sings !!! Yay !! Joy !!! LMAO
@TheOnlyToblin
@TheOnlyToblin 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to be "that guy". I would LOVE some insight into mixing and mastering. It is my #1 bane for production
@chrisbarrera7202
@chrisbarrera7202 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think him and markiplier sound alike?
@ryangrubbs6813
@ryangrubbs6813 2 жыл бұрын
I can't unhear it now Jonathan Young as Galactikraken for Markiplier in Space?
@jamesbarham2033
@jamesbarham2033 2 жыл бұрын
Woah, Mark should hire him to do singing voice overs
@bobderbaumeisterthe2589
@bobderbaumeisterthe2589 2 жыл бұрын
kinda funny that the ad before this vid was auto tune^^
@heresjonny666
@heresjonny666 2 жыл бұрын
Well. That will save me a lot of time. Fuck.
@shadowldrago
@shadowldrago 2 жыл бұрын
Huh. This is actually really interesting.
@vigilantofstendarr6276
@vigilantofstendarr6276 2 жыл бұрын
Homeboy got himself one of them medieval shirts👌🏻
@windtalker6519
@windtalker6519 2 жыл бұрын
Well, this is super good to know. Doesn't change the fact that I'm broke and can't afford any of this. But good to know none the less.
@emilyfell2573
@emilyfell2573 2 жыл бұрын
I got a fucking youtube ad for autotune before this video
@billparrish4385
@billparrish4385 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@datboijoey2088
@datboijoey2088 2 жыл бұрын
same
@ajwilson4034
@ajwilson4034 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done or thought about doing singing tutorials? You're a fantastic singer and I am not. But I'd like to be and you're dulcet voice would be easy to listen to explain the ins and outs
@MikeSheehan727
@MikeSheehan727 2 жыл бұрын
Bro you just saved me so much time lol
@not_dilucless1311
@not_dilucless1311 2 жыл бұрын
*THATS WHY YOU USE AUTO TUNE AND I DON'T* The word that killing a famous Singer
@BillyQvarnstrom
@BillyQvarnstrom 2 жыл бұрын
very cool trick :)
@animemaniac2
@animemaniac2 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, Horse Armor.
@Klaymore
@Klaymore 2 жыл бұрын
I'm the at least one person that learned this today
@MajorMoment
@MajorMoment Жыл бұрын
dang 🤯
@daemonember
@daemonember 2 жыл бұрын
So for this video I got an ad for Autotune.
@DarthPooh
@DarthPooh 2 жыл бұрын
You don’t need auto tune
@PillowheadCreations
@PillowheadCreations 2 жыл бұрын
Gah Jon everyone knew this (say me who don’t use any off these lmao :P)
@jmoney3372
@jmoney3372 2 жыл бұрын
has anyone ever told you that you sound a lot like markiplier
@ringlhach
@ringlhach 2 жыл бұрын
Of course you were wrong, you expressed an opinion on the Internet. No matter how correct you were, you were still going to be wrong because Internet.
@Bambuskus505
@Bambuskus505 2 жыл бұрын
What's this? A youtuber who willingly admits they were wrong about something? And here I thought all hope was lost
@Nitsu_
@Nitsu_ 2 жыл бұрын
That's Jonathan for you
@obivanknofi8775
@obivanknofi8775 Жыл бұрын
WTF?
@lordwaluigi9150
@lordwaluigi9150 2 жыл бұрын
First
@TheAnimalsaver100
@TheAnimalsaver100 2 жыл бұрын
first
I never should have bought Autotune.
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