I Watched 215 Knife Encounters and Got My Video Age Restricted

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Armchair Violence

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@ArmchairViolence
@ArmchairViolence 10 ай бұрын
I made a Patreon! Get access to new ad-free videos and a community discord! patreon.com/ArmchairViolence Edit: The video got age restricted, so support me on Patreon!
@Walker-h6p
@Walker-h6p Ай бұрын
If you served in the Marines: I thank you for your service (I was in the Army). Also, thank you for the honest video, and using actual gathered statistics to come to a reasonable conclusion (with so much information out there, it can be difficult to sift through knowledgeable and novice advice). **would you consider the following?** : One data point i noticed was not discussed at all (and to be fair, this may be due to lack of data), >>was the use of your legs and feet
@tbjtbj4786
@tbjtbj4786 Ай бұрын
I will agree that stabbing in the real world is about 98% from what I have seen. But slicing when. It dropped the bowels out stopped the fight the quickest I have seen in knife fights
@iChefTheImpossible
@iChefTheImpossible 10 ай бұрын
Plot twist. He attacked 215 people, and noted what the survivors did.
@ArmchairViolence
@ArmchairViolence 10 ай бұрын
*People looking at my data like Mr. Incredible looked at Syndrome's Kronos file
@Cable150364
@Cable150364 10 ай бұрын
@@ArmchairViolenceplease, I need an edit of this right now
@dudes821
@dudes821 9 ай бұрын
I was wondering how he found so many videos, this explains it!
@bewarethegreyghost
@bewarethegreyghost 10 ай бұрын
NOOOO! You're not supposed to give this away for free! You need to package this into an online E-course and charge $500 for it!!!!!
@tom3618
@tom3618 10 ай бұрын
What's blud doing!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭
@3nertia
@3nertia 10 ай бұрын
What an evil socialist he is!
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 10 ай бұрын
​@@tom3618lol
@backwardscapguy1476
@backwardscapguy1476 10 ай бұрын
Does he not like money?!?!
@LikeLikeLikeLikeLi
@LikeLikeLikeLikeLi 10 ай бұрын
On one hand I agree just because it’s the best video ever but on the other hand I disagree just because it’s free (hand on chin emoji)
@AdobadoFantastico
@AdobadoFantastico 8 ай бұрын
You're definitely a scientist, my guy. I'm actually impressed by the rigor and the interest in later replication.
@RobertN734
@RobertN734 10 ай бұрын
So what I've learned is baseball is the ultimate self defense martial art. Running, throwing, swinging a bat. Got it.
@anthonyhernandez4266
@anthonyhernandez4266 10 ай бұрын
You might be on to something.
@CastIronFist
@CastIronFist 10 ай бұрын
Wait. Stop. That's too correct.
@argentumsurfer4155
@argentumsurfer4155 10 ай бұрын
or a walking cane...
@aeugheh4330
@aeugheh4330 10 ай бұрын
Fair assessment
@JamesDavisakaRemguy
@JamesDavisakaRemguy 10 ай бұрын
;Ha ha ha ha ha! Eh....yep!
@jellynuke7606
@jellynuke7606 10 ай бұрын
What do you mean the knife doesn't make an attacker run faster? Running with a knife out is the fastest way to rush B.
@John-ih7gp
@John-ih7gp 10 ай бұрын
Rushing B always works, your team just needs more smokes
@sexmusichandle
@sexmusichandle 10 ай бұрын
Start bhopping
@CryptoC4T
@CryptoC4T 10 ай бұрын
Only 3 fails vs 21 "non gun" weapon wins. I always say that you should arm yourself as one of first responses. Kudos to a genius who pulled a win with chilli powder.
@sethmiller2532
@sethmiller2532 10 ай бұрын
I know it's not how it happened, but I like the idea that they beat them by just making food that the attacker's pallet was too sensitive to handle.
@bjornnilsson1827
@bjornnilsson1827 10 ай бұрын
Well, unless the attacker is Icy Mike, the chance that they've had any significant practice time fighting with chilli powder in their face/eyes is pretty low.
@Ferrari255GTO
@Ferrari255GTO 8 ай бұрын
​@@sethmiller2532 Carolina reaper, i choose you! (Stabber) OH FU- (*Dies)
@davidegaruti2582
@davidegaruti2582 7 ай бұрын
This also shows an intresting thing : knifes aren't great weapons ... If pepole can mount convincing defences with improvised weapons 81% of the times when they aren't the aggressors it kinda hints that yeah not a phenomenal weapon really ...
@adriafro7321
@adriafro7321 7 ай бұрын
@@sethmiller2532 oh a chicken wing for me? Ty... *starts screaming in pain*
@DrMakak
@DrMakak 10 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot bro. It's a small and skewed data set, but you still did more for the discussion than all the gurus who base their strategies on the kumite in the woods they totally won in the 80s
@colatoxic4409
@colatoxic4409 10 ай бұрын
the fact that dude running a martial art channel but also arrange the video into a legit academic style essay format is fascinating
@CastIronFist
@CastIronFist 10 ай бұрын
In the Taekwondo school I grew up in we learned Knife defense. Then I got interested in pressure testing (and also watching an inordinate amount of violent encounters) and realized that basically nothing I learned would do anything to stop someone with a knife who actually wanted me dead. You are soft squishy water balloon and are easily popped. Never forget that.
6 ай бұрын
No I’m not american
@FirstnameLastname-le9hq
@FirstnameLastname-le9hq 5 ай бұрын
Your organs rupture all the same, genius. Try your snide America bashing somewhere else.
@dakota9821
@dakota9821 Ай бұрын
No one cares eurocuck.
@davidhummels4162
@davidhummels4162 10 ай бұрын
A self-protection video set up like a scholarly journal article (complete with a limitations section). Nice! I'm new to the channel and quite impressed so far. I work as a security professional (healthcare sector). I can remember about half a dozen situations over the years where officers in the departments I've worked with have encountered subjects with knives. A couple of times, they kept their distance and were able to talk them down. The last few I remember (I was on-scene for one. For the most recent one, the offender put the knife away just prior to my arrival) ended when we red-dotted the offenders with Tasers. They decided to give up and we didn't have to deploy. No injuries to anyone, so we were extremely fortunate. So yes, handling the incident from a distance is far preferrable to trying to wrap them up. Using time and distance in our favor are key strategies for the way we operate in any use of force situation. If we go in, we do so with full commitment and, ideally, as a team. Closing the distance when someone has an edged weapon should be avoided unless you simply have no other options. Maybe you will be fortunate, and the offender will be so thrown off by your resistance that they lose the will to keep fighting. That does happen, since a good number of offenders are looking for compliant or surprised victims rather than fights. Anyway, great job!
@ArmchairViolence
@ArmchairViolence 10 ай бұрын
Yep. Keeping distance, using weapons, and going in as a team is pretty much exactly what I saw working.
@erudit0rum198
@erudit0rum198 10 ай бұрын
It's almost like even very basic weapons vastly outclass unarmed combat techniques.
@bennagel2180
@bennagel2180 10 ай бұрын
Yes but hand to hand applies to weapons as well, learning to wrestle will make better at wrestling for your firearm or an edge weapon.
@SurmaSampo
@SurmaSampo 10 ай бұрын
​@@bennagel2180If you are wrestling for your gun or knife then grappling skill will help but also your weapon skills have terribly failed. Training your first line of defence first is probably a good idea.
@MasakanSolaris
@MasakanSolaris 10 ай бұрын
So the solution is to give everybody guns, you don't need to know basic hand to hand combat as long as you have the Almighty Glock with you at all times. Got it.
@MasakanSolaris
@MasakanSolaris 10 ай бұрын
​@@bennagel2180no don't tell him that. Let him learn the hard way
@bennagel2180
@bennagel2180 10 ай бұрын
@@SurmaSampo I agree, but the vast majority of self defense cases happen at close range. At least learn to get the guy off of you with grappling techniques. Hand fighting also translates to weapon draws, but on top of all that, not every situation calls for a gun.
@LittleJimmy835
@LittleJimmy835 9 ай бұрын
The only part of the analysis I disagree with is how you didn’t count it as successful knife defence when someone ran away and the attacker didn’t chase them; if you’re going to stab me, I run, and you’re too lazy to follow me, I have successfully prevented you from stabbing me. Now you might argue, “Well by that logic cowering counts as a nice defence too!”, to which I respond… yes, yes it should. If I piss myself and scream, “Oh god please don’t stab me!” and that makes you not attack me, I have, again, successfully prevented you from stabbing me. It may not be particularly macho, but hey it worked.
@theseeker7692
@theseeker7692 6 ай бұрын
I had the same problem, glad to see someone else agrees
@tarettime9392
@tarettime9392 5 ай бұрын
I also had an issue with the running away one because it’s something actively done to stop the attack. If 4ft of distance slowly growing works then it works. The cowering one I disagree with only because if cowering stops an attacker from attacking you they were never going to attack you. Which I feel should be in an “other” category as you didn’t successfully defend but you also didn’t get attacked so you didn’t unsuccessfully defend
@awesomepawn2
@awesomepawn2 3 ай бұрын
@@tarettime9392 i mean, cowering could be considered de-escalation, if you were say, in a heated argument and the guy pulled a knife and you were unable to switch emotional gears and got stabbed for it vs if you immediately went "im just a lil guy" and it worked, i would consider that a situation where a guy who was going to stab you didn't because you cowered.
@obscurelines
@obscurelines 10 ай бұрын
Having faced people with knives at least 3 times as a social worker/drugs worker/ homeless hostel manager, I can tell you talk is helpful. Very helpful. But only when the knife is more a symbol of someone's distress than a genuine tool to hurt you. Other than that we are trained to run the F.. away, know our exit strategy and I personally always know what I can grab in my vicinity (this a good game to play when bored - what would you grab if someone came running in). I'm glad it never came to it because for all the fighting I've done as a judo player (30 years) grappling was very successful and I'd have certainly been lulled into thinking I could equally grapple a knife. And likely died.
@lym3204
@lym3204 9 ай бұрын
I was thinking before I read your post how effective de-escalation via talking as a defense would fare but probably if you can talk you should probably should just run away. However, you cannot run if there are still people left who still need protection. My experience with many dog attacks is that always carrying something to put between you and the dog will allow you to deflect the first lunge attack, and this might be true with someone with a knife that you can feel confident that you can at least deflect the first lunge.
@OnlineRadioSchool
@OnlineRadioSchool 9 ай бұрын
Option one for me...leg it. (That means run like mad to my American cousins!) Then, if really in the shite, my rucksack could be used a quick shield..before selecting option 1 again..leg it!
@obscurelines
@obscurelines 9 ай бұрын
@@lym3204 I think there's a chance. Most people are actively trying to kill you (why would they?) Usually you are just in the wrong place at the wrong time and assuming they aren't crazed there's some value to the: 'lets not do this. Just let me walk away. I have kids.' line of approach. In years of homeless work and with vulnerable kids kind but affirmative voices have deescalated so many things. But...Ive also had people I thought I had a great relationship with me look at me like they just want to kill something with no humanity in the eyes at all and it's very upsetting indeed.
@obscurelines
@obscurelines 9 ай бұрын
@@OnlineRadioSchool yeah scarper! I mean a lot of the time you aren't even involved you are fringe, get out of there and absolutely don't be a hero. Unless there's someone you genuinely need to protect (your family etc).
@OnlineRadioSchool
@OnlineRadioSchool 9 ай бұрын
The key defence skill then is..cardio and be able to sprint and hold it for a few mins! @@obscurelines
@hamstermk4
@hamstermk4 10 ай бұрын
What I am hearing is the best Knife defense seminar is one that teaches "Improvised Weapon: Chair."
@locky7443
@locky7443 10 ай бұрын
As something of a scientist myself, I bestow upon you the title. On a more serious note this was a very good video. If attacked I had always assumed improvised weapons or running away were the best options(I am from a communist hellscape :) but it was interesting to see that supported by data. Also I think the video emphasises why training knife defense is important, as the worst response is doing nothing and the only way to make that less likely is by training. To often I feel when trying to emphasise the danger of a knife attack people and how ineffective many taught defense techniques are, people act like there is no point in training defense and that if you don't/ can't run you are going to die. This data is very strong evidence against that mindset.
@raydrexler5868
@raydrexler5868 10 ай бұрын
Doing something is always better than doing nothing.
@wolfensniper4012
@wolfensniper4012 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, I always hate the "just run away lol" mindset because it really give people false assumption about knife defense that you dont need any training other than running, which would be really dangerous
@guilhermebotelho8691
@guilhermebotelho8691 Ай бұрын
Its so necessary to talk about self defense with this research approach
@Priapos93
@Priapos93 10 ай бұрын
If you have helped raise the bar in the study of this topic, then your work counts as science
@ChocolateMilkCultLeader
@ChocolateMilkCultLeader 10 ай бұрын
One reason that running migjt be worse in combination - ifnyou started running and had to stop (or tried to fight snd then had to run away), then you probably were losing the exchange. Or against someoje more athletic. Or you didn't have the mental ability to keep resisting. All of these would pull you down.
@RG-kn9mm
@RG-kn9mm 10 ай бұрын
Damn I knew my chili powder defense system training was legit for the street!
@Metamo
@Metamo 10 ай бұрын
22:20 You've done it. You're a researcher AV. But amazing work being probably the only self defense/martial arts channel (that I've watched) that has, as legitimately as possible, conducted a retrospective observational study on knife defense. A lot of this stuff isn't ethically testable for obvious reasons, but it's great to see someone trying their best and go beyond just anecdotal stuff that you see and hear in self defense circles
@DJ_Frankfurter
@DJ_Frankfurter 10 ай бұрын
Congrats on the 50k subscribers!! Amongst all the YT martial arts channels, you're the most deserving of success. Can't wait to see you hit 100k.
@alexanderandro1895
@alexanderandro1895 10 ай бұрын
This guy cares only about what works, not defending a preexisting notion. Well done.
@beepboop204
@beepboop204 10 ай бұрын
me and my friends tried to be all edgy in highschool and thought we were prepping for military careers with practicing knife fighting and related things. it seemed like you were gonna get stabbed no matter what so you tried to inflict more damage while taking less damage. and no, none of that worked out lol
@mushroomanjcc1954
@mushroomanjcc1954 10 ай бұрын
How is this guy so good. Talked for two minutes straight before a cut, showing he actually memorized the shit he's talking about, indicating that he really cares about the topic. Great work as usual
@TheMorteReport
@TheMorteReport 10 ай бұрын
Great video! My Karate instructor in the 90's was an unarmed combat instructor for the police. One day at training he told us about a study on knife attacks he had just read. The main conclusion was that the biggest factor in whether a knife attacker kills you or not is whether the attacker actually wants to kill you as opposed to using the knife as a threat. "If an attacker has a knife and wants to kill you they have an 85% chance of doing so. The defender's level of training has almost no impact on this." That statement has stuck with me. The other thing he said was that people who carried a knife for self defence had an 80 something percent chance of it being used against them in a self defence situation. The reason was that they didn't want to kill the attacker, just scare them off, while the attacker was willing to use the knife if they got control of it.
@mb2776
@mb2776 9 ай бұрын
I'm probably still alive due to this. My attackers wasn't commited 100% to kill me, his friends even weren't that much thrilled that he pulled out his knife in the first place
@eylon1967
@eylon1967 10 ай бұрын
not only is that science, its better than most academic papers. I'm just doing my statistics class in M.a, would be cool to try to use the tests on this data. anyways, even if it's not statisticaly significant, some data is better than no data, so thanks alot.
@timbuckley3231
@timbuckley3231 10 ай бұрын
So what your saying is that Jackie Chan has the most realistic fights scenes. Think about it he uses a mix of running, improvised weapons and fighting. That and he’s awesome!!
@Bladerunner39
@Bladerunner39 9 ай бұрын
Aside from the 540 kick that he’s so fond of, plus the fact that he’s able to fight 15 people at once, yeah.
@brianmcmanus7219
@brianmcmanus7219 10 ай бұрын
In short, it's not about managing the knife hand, but rather managing distance and initiative. It's not about improvised weapons so much as improvised distance makers/maintainers. Also, we need more truncheon data. Finally, don't bring a knife to a gunfight.
@davidhoffman6980
@davidhoffman6980 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. This is a universal principle. In WWII, at any given time on the Russian front, one side or the other had the "better" tanks. But it turned out that which tank won a tank vs tank battle usually came down to which side shot first as most tank combat was ambush based and thus the tanks on offense often had higher losses despite having better armor and a longer range gun. Surprise and initiative are extremely effective.
@strwman5
@strwman5 10 ай бұрын
@@davidhoffman6980 You said tanks on "offense" had higher loses? Sounds like it would be the ones on defense unless I am misunderstanding. Are you meaning tanks on offense as the tanks that are moving into an area and the tanks on defense are the ones holding a concealed position and waiting? If that is the case it makes sense. I was thinking the tank springing the ambush as the offense.
@davidhoffman6980
@davidhoffman6980 10 ай бұрын
@@strwman5 when the Germans were on the offensive, they were advancing and the Russians defending would occasionally set ambushes that the Germans would run afoul. When the Russians were on the offensive, they were advancing and Germany was defending and occasionally set up ambushes. The side getting ambushed is almost always the attacker. Occasionally, defenders can get ambushed while retreating if the enemy managed to get ahead of them, but it was less common.
@strwman5
@strwman5 10 ай бұрын
@@davidhoffman6980 Thanks for explaining! That cleared it up.
@sexmusichandle
@sexmusichandle 10 ай бұрын
Bring a sword to a knife fight
@farkasmactavish
@farkasmactavish 10 ай бұрын
speaking as a HEMA practitioner (who has lately begun doing a LOT of rondel dagger stuff), I can corroborate that initiative control is EXTREMELY important. Additionally, as someone who had to do a fuckton of research for his psych degree, yes, you are a scientist now. Your study even has a Limitations and Bias section.
@RG-kn9mm
@RG-kn9mm 10 ай бұрын
Never bring a knife to a dogpiling fight!
@psychopathmedia
@psychopathmedia 10 ай бұрын
9:25 The way bigger confounder is that police aren't shooting someone with a knife who's standing right next to them, or where the knifer had the upper hand. They initiate, make it a point to draw first, and stand far away so they can shoot but the knifeman can't stab. Those datapoints should just be discluded entirely. However, I've seen plenty of random not-police people using a gun to ward off a knife videos, so it probably equals out the same anyway
@ArmchairViolence
@ArmchairViolence 10 ай бұрын
I don't think this would entirely explain it because A) There were still plenty of successful gun defenses that were initiated from close range and B) There were a lot of people that drew knives and approached from a ways away. Not all of them were surprises.
@xtxmadexgr3at910
@xtxmadexgr3at910 10 ай бұрын
So my takeaway on this is that the most important factors in knife fighting is maintaining conviction in your decision while still being adaptable to your environment would be the best indication of success.
@flavvsdasilver6442
@flavvsdasilver6442 10 ай бұрын
To paraphrase you, "don't give up, and figure something out"
@InkyDustMan
@InkyDustMan 10 ай бұрын
So the general takeaways from this seem to be- Throw sh!t and be crazy, or run away. I always find it interesting how a lot of general trends when it comes to discussing violent encounters, be they real or for sport, boil down to- "Be as aggressive and brutal as possible or get out as soon as possible." Commitment and chaos seem to be the two main deciding factors according to this and other data I've seen, as technique seems to only count when one or both parties are specialized in very specific scenarios like MMA, Boxing, and so on, but even techniques that are rooted in high levels of aggression such as wrestling seem to be much more impactful than those that aren't. Guess everyone has a plan until they get bricked in the head.
@dudea3378
@dudea3378 9 ай бұрын
So in conclusion, just go full Jackie Chan and improvise. Got it!
@nekonicodemus6107
@nekonicodemus6107 10 ай бұрын
Best self defense skill: knowing your environment.
@kevinjung6130
@kevinjung6130 10 ай бұрын
No over editing? No weird real-estate guru video-esque edits? NICE I love the return of the older style/format.
@TREEfool
@TREEfool 7 ай бұрын
"Unamerican communist hellscape" 🤣
@tonyk4615
@tonyk4615 5 ай бұрын
What I absolutely love about this video is after you went and did all the research and came back with quantitative results, the conclusions support what most people would intuit with no training whatsoever. What’s so ironic is all the self-defense experts who are out there arguing against what common sense and your data suggest are the most successful strategies.
@jaymystery-i3k
@jaymystery-i3k 9 ай бұрын
first thing my karate instructor ever told me is always use a weapon if possible!!!
@matgladu
@matgladu 10 ай бұрын
'Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary' -Karl Marx
@chadwizick
@chadwizick 10 ай бұрын
Never thought I'd agree with Marx on something
@matgladu
@matgladu 10 ай бұрын
@@chadwizick Just curious, what has he said that you disagree with?
@chadwizick
@chadwizick 10 ай бұрын
@@matgladu less and less I'm finding
@mb2776
@mb2776 9 ай бұрын
@@chadwizick that's the norm when people read into marx or lenin. First, all they hear are crazy hair color liberals and "woke marxism" when in reality, marxism is the study of economics and how they affect human society from the dawn until the new times. Our whole human culture is based upon tools and how we traded them, marx figured that out and tried to undertand human history better.
@ViperPain141
@ViperPain141 8 ай бұрын
@@mb2776unfortunately, bad people use his ideology and this is associated with bad. Not to say that everything in Marx’s ideas are good but we can take a page off of Marx and understand his reasoning and improve upon it
@gentlemandemon
@gentlemandemon 10 ай бұрын
This was an excellent methodology for the resources available. You give founded interpretations and acknowledge limitations openly. Genuinely, this feels like a video publication.
@bolsack8902
@bolsack8902 10 ай бұрын
Having a lot of police footage also underreports the damage that could be done by over representation of plate carriers and ballistic armor (which can stop knifes with 3a+)
@kevintse2870
@kevintse2870 9 ай бұрын
Ok good video. I think grappling works best before the knife gets pulled out (in the pocket) or when the attacker is trying to stab someone else.
@obscurelines
@obscurelines 10 ай бұрын
Fight Smart have done something similar. Their conclusions similar. Their consequent system involves keeping yourself guarded, trying to parry the knife when it comes your way and striking to the head. But never any big reaching movements.
@deleteduser3455
@deleteduser3455 Ай бұрын
Who would've thought that most knife attackers don't like being hit by weapons
@LittleJimmy835
@LittleJimmy835 9 ай бұрын
What I like about your channel is while so much of martial arts KZbin is either bro-science or claims of, “Well in my style my sensei said this so it must be true”, you actually attempt at least some form of academic analysis. The fact that you actually cite things like medical literature and video evidence makes you far more realistic than every other supposed “reality based martial arts expert” out there. As for why running away didn’t work in combination with other techniques, I’d hypothesise it’s because anyone who tries to run after their attempt at grappling or striking has already failed has probably got enough new arseholes punched into them that they’re not going to be able to make it very far. If you're going to run, run before you've gassed out from throwing haymakers and bled out from being shanked, not after.
@rr-mt9np
@rr-mt9np 10 ай бұрын
This man is ahead of his time
@rpb8256
@rpb8256 10 ай бұрын
12:10 no means no kids do not stab without consent
@kam3766
@kam3766 10 ай бұрын
You’re a scientist. Go publish a paper, girlboss
@BoodskiBro
@BoodskiBro 10 ай бұрын
Your analysis is always so detailed and intuitive!
@joaopaulocoelho5401
@joaopaulocoelho5401 10 ай бұрын
fantastic video. welcome to real world data analysis.
@MrNyxxyn
@MrNyxxyn 10 ай бұрын
If you use the method than your a scientist
@normanbayona4636
@normanbayona4636 10 ай бұрын
Combination Running might be expected to perform more poorly on average. It could usually mean the attacker closed distance or started with the initiative in the first place, possibly necessitating a strike or a shove before running (possibly hindering the running).
@nosidenoside2458
@nosidenoside2458 10 ай бұрын
I wonder if you could ask the judicial system of like florida to get ALL the data, anonymized. over like a year or 2
@johnherasimtschuk3713
@johnherasimtschuk3713 10 ай бұрын
Running in a combo is less successful because now you have to fight tired.
@swagswag3997
@swagswag3997 10 ай бұрын
rly good vid dude and I rate that you put this much effort into somthing youtube isnt likely to be promoting. no way i would have found this if i dont have ur notifications on
@curvingfyre6810
@curvingfyre6810 10 ай бұрын
22:00 I'd guess the reason that running got worse in combination is because its success is based on getting away, but the others are based on eliminating the threat. Converse goals. Running then fighting makes you more tired for the fight and gives your back if the attacker catches up. Fighting then running cedes initiative and ensures the attacker is pretty close when the chase starts, and also still cedes your back.
@samnaghavi9775
@samnaghavi9775 10 ай бұрын
I love your thinking framework and find your methodology of breaking down complex ideas fascinating. I always wonder how do you do it. and what it takes to think this way.
@ArmchairViolence
@ArmchairViolence 10 ай бұрын
This is actually one of the few topics that I don't have a great answer for, because I just had really specific experiences while growing up that wired my brain to think this way automatically. I can say that my background is speech and debate. But the only really pieces of advice I can give are to keep asking "why," to be very broadly educated, and to never assume that someone is correct just because they are good at their job. The only way to advance a field is to figure out where the general consensus of that field is wrong.
@jagger_claw
@jagger_claw 5 ай бұрын
Jesse was a Judoka [got his black belt in 1963 I believe] & he was also the first student & the assistant instructor of Bruce Lee. According to John Litttle Jesse wrote the best book ever written on Bruce Lee biography. Would highly recommend you read that book. You can also checkout my playlists if you like. Cheers!👍 [my replies to you kept disappearing so I commented here]
@IndicatedGoodLife
@IndicatedGoodLife 5 ай бұрын
A chair is a very good counter to knife. It buys you distance and time.
@raydrexler5868
@raydrexler5868 10 ай бұрын
ASP is fantastic. Thanks for the great (as usual) content. Be safe
@imjustsam1745
@imjustsam1745 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the way you recognized that K9 officer. That dog was a cop and it was defending the public.
@MosesLeadzy
@MosesLeadzy 10 ай бұрын
How do you use knife violence whilst in an armchair?
@rando5638
@rando5638 10 ай бұрын
Classily.
@NinjaRG9
@NinjaRG9 10 ай бұрын
gun
@institches2750
@institches2750 10 ай бұрын
Knife launcher?
@kaoskronostyche9939
@kaoskronostyche9939 10 ай бұрын
Steven Seagal recently released a movie in which he sat in a chair the entire time and fought of attackers easily. Seagal is too fa to walk so violence from a chair ...
@apc9714
@apc9714 10 ай бұрын
"Honey,come here real quick..."
@AGuy-s5v
@AGuy-s5v 10 ай бұрын
One of the things that is (I think) partially relevant is the numbers concerning knife/sharp object offenses. According to the "fbi expanded homicide expanded data table 8" in 2019 we had 1,476 recorded under the category "knives or cutting instruments". Numbers from previous years also have very similar in the mid 1,000's in terms of recorded deaths. However, these numbers only recorded however many instances of the weapons in question resulted in death, not in successful attempts at defense or running away. So even if we had more conclusive data as a result of looking at videos from Active Self Protection, we still have a limited sample size inside of a limited sample size. We have no idea how many knife attack actually happen, let alone how successful any of those successes were. So to be fair, there is a lot of work to be done trying to figure out what is and is not effective. Great video btw, I learned quite a bit regardless!
@davidhoffman6980
@davidhoffman6980 10 ай бұрын
I know. I watch a lot of gun channels and every time someone does a video that has gunfight statistics or a survey of gunfights, they have different numbers than the others. Part of it is because different police departments have different qualification standards for their officers, but also there are just wildly different numbers of hit rates, one shot stops, and every other factor. Also, some departments try to hide their poor performance by fudging their definitions: some departments when they say they have an 80% hit rate don't mean 80% of the bullets fired hit the suspect. They mean that officers hit a suspect in 80% of the gunfights.
@AGuy-s5v
@AGuy-s5v 10 ай бұрын
@@davidhoffman6980 Right, even when I use the fbi as a source, they only get what's relayed to them from police departments across the U.S. And like you said, each PD has a different technical definition for some categories. So even if we get data from a good credible source, the information gathered may not be 100% accurate.
@crazygreek6341
@crazygreek6341 9 ай бұрын
I would love a reaction or a discussion from self-defense interested channels like icy mike or rokas. Great video and nice work man. I love, that you're putting the scientific method on KZbin martial arts!
@crazygreek6341
@crazygreek6341 9 ай бұрын
As a stem student, a data analysis in form of showing the data in box plots and a calculation of the deltas and sigmas would be great btw, but that's just the nerd in me lol, still fantastic work. And yeah I know, the data set is comparably small so a "good" error analysis is difficult
@digdigktn
@digdigktn 6 ай бұрын
Eccellent video. You can see that he put everything into account to tell you something worthfully.
@pyroseed13
@pyroseed13 10 ай бұрын
So in short the conventional wisdom is probably right after all...running and maintaining distance are probably your best options. Would be curious to see Icy Mike's thoughts on this.
@bewarethegreyghost
@bewarethegreyghost 10 ай бұрын
Tactical stanchion and brick e-course when?
@justin8865
@justin8865 10 ай бұрын
I also want to add, thinking about it more. Perhaps its best to treat a knife attacker much like you would treat a wild animal. Because what makes predators so dangerous intention and built in knives ie fangs and claws.
@NemanjaNislija
@NemanjaNislija 10 ай бұрын
Excellent vid, tons of data and practical advice, love it. I just have one point about practicing knife defense - at around 16:35 the "attacker" is sparring you with a knife or duelling instead of simulating an aggressive murder attempt. It's a common thing that happens when you get two guys who train and you tell one to try and stab the shit out of me. However, it's not a fully commited attack, which makes it a lot more difficult to employ some of the defensive tactics (particularly grappling) and a lot easier to run away.
@DaēnāVanguhi
@DaēnāVanguhi 5 ай бұрын
Ive just discovered this channel, man what a GEM 💎
@RobKinneySouthpaw
@RobKinneySouthpaw 10 ай бұрын
You 1:27 have a limitations section? Scientificness approved.
@teshunhao5131
@teshunhao5131 10 ай бұрын
Nice,thank you 😍😍😍
@2ndviolin
@2ndviolin 27 күн бұрын
I once tried to disarm my reluctant seven year old sister (I was 14, forgive me) after persuading her to hold a rolled up newspaper to represent a knife. Virtually impossible!
@Confluence358
@Confluence358 9 ай бұрын
Ngl, I REALLY like this video. Super informative, really like your personality, and just a really fascinating video to see it all categorized like this. Just found your channel and have been binging your videos since I saw this one lol. I wanna watch the original one you did, but I don't do well with graphic content. But listening to you analyze these encounters is super interesting. Hope you continue making great content like this, fr.
@alexkfridges
@alexkfridges 10 ай бұрын
Trying to grapple with someone holding a knife is very silly. Stay as far as possible away from the sharp pointy stick it will make your organs hurt
@wawawuu1514
@wawawuu1514 6 ай бұрын
"Am I a scientist?" I would say so, yes. I can't think of a reason why you wouldn't be. You're at the very least without any doubt one of very few, if not the only channel about martial arts/self-defense/whatever that at least tries to be scientific. I'm not super into watching those channels however, so there's a bias of my own. Top-notch channel.
@johnandrewserranogarcia7223
@johnandrewserranogarcia7223 Ай бұрын
26:32 Despite Icy mike claiming that switching hands doesn't happen, it was successfully used against the participants of the USDC of which he was one of the participants in season 1.
@sonaresgratis7924
@sonaresgratis7924 6 ай бұрын
14:22 Feels somehow nice to watch. Assuming she was the agresor of course.
@bloodwynn
@bloodwynn 9 ай бұрын
Very good video. I remember watching Bas Rutten's self defense video 16 years ago - "create a distance and grab a chair" - it was his main tactic for knife. I remembered it for life and this analysis proves it right. =)
@mb2776
@mb2776 9 ай бұрын
successful no defense aka the attacker run, tripped and fell onto his own knife^^
@JosephAllen-d2e
@JosephAllen-d2e 6 ай бұрын
Great video. In recruit training one of the first and most valuable elements of our combatives training was the simple fact that the human fist is a terrible weapon, and when dedicated weapons are not available we should use an improvised weapon. Whether that means picking up a fist sized stone or taking off our helmets and using them to cave someone's skull in, resort to unarmed fighting strictly as an act of desperation when no weapons are available. It is interesting that over 30 years later your data supports that training. Congratulations on an excellent presentation.
@101289teutonicguy
@101289teutonicguy 9 ай бұрын
In kajukenbo we say 1 runaway 2 get something between you and the knife (examples include a table a folding chair and a picture frame) 3 expect to see your own blood. So I guess we were better than most people based on your data
@GYMETRIUS
@GYMETRIUS 10 ай бұрын
Stanchion Man needs to be a comic book vigilante.
@matthewrandall9833
@matthewrandall9833 8 ай бұрын
Totally agree with everthing u said i was attacked with a knife and only by sheer luck did i defend succesfully and only just managed to see it coming he didnt advertise it didnt even know the guy !!!
@kodypaynter9111
@kodypaynter9111 10 ай бұрын
Spot on! Great video from someone who works in Prison and has seen knife and other improvised weapon attacks you nailed it!
@barrysmith1202
@barrysmith1202 6 ай бұрын
super job. 1) i wonder what the results would be if the typical attacker had a hidden second knife, drawn in the midst of the encounter. 2) i wonder how much more, or less, effective kerambit/s would be, once it goes to grappling.
@matthewsoares2824
@matthewsoares2824 7 ай бұрын
I would love to see a comparison between the victim outcomes for situations classified as a strategy where the defender went toward / engaged with the knife, vs situations where victims strategies was to create / maintain distance from the knife, regardless of whether they used striking, grappling, weapons, etc. I think the "all the way in or all the way out" debate was solidly upended by this research and I think we may need to start favoring "all the way out"
@MrRickulus
@MrRickulus 10 ай бұрын
24:09 This little nugget of humor sprinkled into a great, technical video on knife fights is why this channel is 🐐 ed
@relativisticvel
@relativisticvel 9 ай бұрын
This is why I always tell people for self defense, learn grappling + a weapon.
@baubaul
@baubaul 10 ай бұрын
So my 5-10k running black belt should come handy at some point 😂
@brianchurch
@brianchurch 8 ай бұрын
Regarding switching hands with a knife - One of my kids (she was around 9) wanted to 'knife around' with one of my training knives. As she was trying to tag me with the trainer I restrained one of her hands (playfully) and without missing a beat she switched hands and started stabbing me. At a Burton Richardson workshop, he showed a few videos where the knife holder switched hands during a violent encounter. So, it does happen but also I've seen (in training, I don't make a habit of being in real violent encounters with knifey folks) how people will fixate on the tool they have or get tunnel vision and lose sight of available options.
@cjsher90
@cjsher90 10 ай бұрын
Terrific work.
@PatrickJohnsonz
@PatrickJohnsonz 10 ай бұрын
This is one of the most interesting videos I have ever seen. Very well done
@buildwithbakir
@buildwithbakir 6 ай бұрын
PhD thesis style video. Love it.
@fran9023
@fran9023 10 ай бұрын
a good source is also the ultimate self defense championship. they have a episode where they fight against a knee atacks
@Machina03exe
@Machina03exe 10 ай бұрын
Today I learned that those line divider thingies is called a stanchion. Thanks for that.
@redactedcanceledcensored6890
@redactedcanceledcensored6890 9 ай бұрын
Finally had the time to watch, great analysis. Especially the spreadsheet for reference. I once switched hands when defending with a knife, probably due to stress-induced-being-a-dumbass. Borderline successful I guess, the knife made the attacker think for a second so I managed to escape.
@awesomepawn2
@awesomepawn2 3 ай бұрын
he is really proud that he looked up the name of a stanchion
@fakeFeetus
@fakeFeetus 10 ай бұрын
Done this a few times in real life... Shit is scary when you cant run.