I Went to KOREA to Find Out What Happened to LOONA (ft. Odd Eye Circle)​⁠

[@laup1235]

very disappointed that loossemble hasn’t also been highlighted as a loona successor project but more of a 'they signed with another company'

[@retricallltann6243]

i mean loossemble literally means loona assemble ctd wants loona to be back as 12 while modhaus has kind of continued where jaden left off with the loona project by restarting it as a whole with artms while still keeping hopes for ot12 after artms has completed starting off their journey again

[@Mymymy23]

Disagree, loossemble means loona assemble, in their description they said they were searching for their other friends (aka the rest of ot12) and they have 12 dots as a logo. They also used orbit for their fan event. If anything they are marketing them as an incomplete version of loona which is a bit unfortunate. The difference is that they won’t continue loona og sound or storyline since that was Jaden and Monotree creation

[@retricallltann6243]

@@Mymymy23artms is only called that because modhaus is being cautious of using the loona name

[@Mymymy23]

@@retricallltann6243 I believe his initial plan was to use artms only as the name of the project to relaunch the whole group under modhaus but once the plan fell through he decided to use it for the 5 members under his company. If majority of the members would have signed they would have probably found a way to use loona but it wouldn’t be fair to use it only for ot5 (just like ctd applied for the orbit copyright but decided to leave it for ot12 and chose a different fandom name for loossemble)

[@retricallltann6243]

@@Mymymy23yeah after all jj seems to want to reunite ot12 again

[@adeleb6168]

if you wanted to make a vid about artms just title it that u did barely any research about what happened to loona outside of artms.. cause loossemble is also def worth mentioning as a “new beginning” to loona + u didn’t even mention yves or research what she’s doing at all??

[@haewonized]

this timeline is kinda messy… chuu was kicked, this is what started the boycott, and in December the other members (-vivi and Hyunjin for some more time) tried to file lawsuits and stuff to leave bbc, and they announced the cb, then oec and Heejin were free, they signed with modhaus, everyone else was stuck at bbc, and eventually the rest of them were freed

[@auroraisland6477]

Hey everyone 5 of the other loona members are touring the US next month as 'Loossemble'! kinda weird how that didn't make it into this video😅

[@manny8090]

they have a pn contract he legally cant mention loosemble/chuuves

[@tadabae]

hey don't forget the loossemble girls (hyunjin, vivi, yeojin, gowon, and hyeju) - they are having a US tour soon!!!

[@Miraiana]

Actually, about the whole "budget" thing, Jaden himself admitted in an interview, after he left Trashberry, that they inflated the number for marketing purposes, and that their budget was actually much lower. They started with a lot of money, but as Loona 1/3 wasn't as popular as they expected, and didn't sell as many albums, they reduced the buget for OEC, actually, Eclipse is probably the cheapest MV they made. Plus, Trashberyy had to borrow money from various investors to continue the project, hence the bankruptcy news that were popular a few years ago (like the DONUT case and such).

[@quinevere]

thank you for mentioning this. i feel like most orbits know since 2021-ish that the 9 mil number is inflated.

[@Realunmaker]

0:26 what you mean is artms, loosemble, chuu and Ibu.

[@alinsofan501]

2 different groups, 4 different agencies (most probably) later but we are still going strong , nothing can stop them and tripleS. fighting girls! also glad you met h1-key . yel is amazing and hwiseo is the new queen of puzzles.

[@k4n0np0l]

Titles it LOONA but barely mentions members that make up LOONA and spends more time talking about that man and how his other group operates. Not to mention continually saying LOONA is over when the members themselves have been documented multiple times saying the opposite 🤧 Anyway. LOOSSEMBLE is debuting something on September 15 6PM KST, Chuu mentioned an album drop soon, Yves has been hyping up something she's been working on since May/June, Heejin solo activity in October, possible Haseul solo activity, possible OEC or ARTMS winter album, and ARTMS debut soon!

[@lollmao6621]

Just ARTMS huh? Not also Loossemble....?

[@yvestigator]

i went to KOREA just to find out what happened to jaden jeong

[@kuyab9122]

Out of all the witty comments here, I love this the most lol. Thank you.

[@sourjellies]

11:04 i saw the girls live in Amsterdam last year, you could just see how drained they were and feel the low energy it was sad to see but this time on oec tour it was incredible you can really tell they actually enjoyed it and seemed so energised too

[@Omnipotions]

Love to hear this!! T-T - Jinsoul Stan

[@za_wavbit]

It cost roughly $2.2m for the predebut project. Jaden mentioned it in a comment on his blog - the $9m figure was a marketing ploy.

[@viceroy2672]

You know you've lost the plot when you have to take a moment in your "What Happened to Loona" video to say "alright let's get back to Loona". Because you spent more time talking about Triple S and Jaden than Yves and Loossemble.

[@toastpavedtheway]

frrr

[@ONLY1JAYJAY]

I was really disappointed when he didn’t mention Loosemble. They are also having their debut in less then a month

[@noliezcx]

@RoyaleMusicalthis was 3 months ago 😭

[@marj4330]

"what happened to loona" but no mention of loossemble, yves, or chuu 🙄

[@TelevisionMBS]

OR ARTMS!

[@cjc363636]

I'm wondering if some uh, 'agreement' with Modhaus was made to not mention the non-Artmis 12 for cooperation in the making of this essay.

[@luk_.armxndii]

They need permission to do stuff like this since they are pn a contract

[@mesCheerios]

??? they were mentioned

[@edelweiss_eru]

future person here, loossemble didn’t even debut until a month after this video was released, chuu had been doing her own thing, and yves made her solo debut this year-

[@CaneFumatore]

it's a nice although flawed little recap story but it's clear that it was made in accordance to what Modhaus wanted you to focus on, even tripleS which has very little to do with Loona as a whole was mentioned, but Loossemble wasn't even named

[@s3k1m]

NO MENTION OF LOOSSEMBLE???

[@wefiftyfifty]

LITERALLYYYY like the solo stanning issue is rlly bad now cuz all the “popular” members are either in atrp or artms 😢😢😢

[@isabelamartins3915]

He doesn't care about them, he's a jaden jeong fan not a loona fan

[@Orbitmum]

Surely loossemble weren't established as a group when he made the video because he mentions about oec's upcoming tour when we know that finished a few weeks ago

[@wefiftyfifty]

@@isabelamartins3915 i didnt rlly Watch the video like i legit couldn’t finish it but a bunch of people on twt r saying he didn’t even mention any post-jj eras which is insane to me???? like 50% AT LEAST of their popularity comes from then how r u just gonna ignore that

[@adeleb6168]

@@Orbitmumthe group name has been known since late july and he used the group picture that had the caption “loossemble crew profile”

[@user-uo8mx3cv5k]

I just want to clarify, in Queendom 2, they got covid and could not participate in round 1. They still performed after they all healed, and the performance was absolutely beautiful, but they did not get any points from it. There's a minimum amount of score they could get each round, and if they had gotten even just that (which imo they wouldve gotten at least 3rd), that is enough to surpass WJSN's score. Loona lost on a technicality, no hate to WJSN, but Loona was and ever shall be the real winner of Q2.

[@theskeptic777]

Literally had they not gotten covid, they would have won Q2 and that would have been ICONIC AF

[@gg-xs4lb]

I hope you make an entirely different video about loossemble and yves and don’t mention artms lol

[@novrendy]

No mentions of the other LOONA members whatsoever. Where's the LOONA when there's no LOONA mentioned?

[@Fran_Fuentes]

Yikes my dude. LOONA is not only artms and the girls don't owe their success to Monotree or Jaden Jeong, they contributed sure. But how fiercely loyal orbits are to the moon girls are because of the girls, every time we saw their personalities in a loona TV episode, the way they can convey feelings through their music, those weird and charming vlives and their love for our weird humor. That's all them. I'm thankful they're mostly together and will support all of them in what they want to do in the future. Not because they work again with jj I will forget how much weigh Hyeju had to lose in a week, the impossibility of letting Vivi to see her family even in those long hiatus, the way Jinsoul would complain of how much her scalp hurt for the bleach, the way that I the yyxy photoshot the girls were posing with food but not allowed to consume it. Even he admitted his difficult personality and thanked the girls to be willing to work with him again. I can't wait for artms debut as a ot5 group they will do amazing and I excited for loossemble and hope the girls that used to get less lines get to shine now and I can't wait to see Chuu and Yves solos debut.

[@a-yyxy531]

11:25 how are you gonna get that all wrong, it was the tour first, then Chuu got removed in November, 9/11 remaining members filed to terminate their contracts and then they announced a "comeback".

[@ouriiangel]

mention how jADEN LEFT LADIES CODE

[@jiungsglasses2971]

the way the title caught my attention immediately

[@gohtcheez]

this is not a video about loona its a video about artms …. dont use their name for clickbait if you’re not even gonna MENTION the other SEVEN members 😭😭😭😭 especially when loossemble has just as many members as artms including the yyxy members that have talked about how badly jaden treated them

[@AfroJeffrey]

WRONG. It's still part of LOONA.

[@DisastrousCake]

As someone who hasn’t followed LOONA at all and only got into it bc of Loossemble, this was very helpful to catch up on what happened lol I would have like more mention of the members and their activities though. Seems like you kinda glossed over everyone outside of ARTMS and Chuu.

[@Realunmaker]

While I liked the video over all, crowning artms loona 2.0 while ignoring what the other members are doing is bit unfair. I know Loona, the sound and the aesthetics were something but as proven by how much orbits liked everysong and every comeback they did including osts for dramas and other stuff, most orbits are here for the members, the girls. Although I'm extremely happy for Odd Eye Circle and supported all their comeback cycle, ordered their album in all their versions, etc etc, I don't feel it's fair to do a video focusing only on them as if the other members left the loona idea/concept behind when they signed with another agency or decided to go solo. If anything what kept the fandom still united during the boycott (the whole boycott era you ordered a bit weirdly too, I'm sure it makes for a compelling story that way but that's not the order things happened) was Hyunjin being brave and talking to us through it all, she'll always be a cornerstone of Loona even if Monotree never gives her a song or if Digipedi never directs one of her videos. I can't in good conscience like this video bro, it feels weird.

[@adeleb6168]

right, he also straight up didn’t mention yves at all whrn the stuff she’s been doing post bbc is def worth talking about

[@somehowsmh]

exactly, and the way jaden jeong is glorified just rubs me the wrong way

[@antoniocastro4159]

sure a video about loona barely mentioning even half of the members

[@antoniocastro4159]

@RoyaleMusical I'm sorry but you're very behind?? Loossemble debuted consisting of Hyunjin, Yeojin, Gowon, Hyeju and Vivi. Chuu had a solo debut and Heejin too. The only one who hasn't had any comeback is Yves however she wrote the song strawberry soda for Loossemble. You seriously need to catch up on all the loona members you're missing out on a lot!

[@Theskyisred44]

Damn they killing you in the comments

[@samiralae9739]

you skipped over a LOT of important details but overall this is pretty concise

[@jinsolz]

important details being yves and loosemble

[@CatallenaLalalala]

​@@jinsolzliterally half the group and they dared put loona in the title

[@aebbeh]

Stan Artms Stan Loossemble, Stan Chuu Stan Yves

[@myaachuu]

Hi, coming here from the Heejin interview video to give this a watch! I'm long time orbit from just right before xx era and I've been here for this long ride on LOONA island. I wish I could just enjoy this video, but there's just too much I feel compelled to speak up on. 6 minutes into the video and I have to say I'm appalled and disgusted. I am passionate about the LOONAverse as well, don't get me wrong. I can understand JJ is very talented in his own right. But the way this is compiled and explained is not the vibe. This video makes it feel like because of JJ's absence was the reason for LOONA falling apart and not BBC taking advantage of these girls the moment they joined the company and Chuu eventually being the reason the girl's band together and leave BBC. There's such a huge lack of really explaining how we, as fans (and actually LOONA too), were getting radio silence as well from what was going on with LOONA not only after LOONACON(KCON) and Haseul's hiatus, but also with Chuu's "hiatus" which turned into her being kicked from LOONA and being framed by BBC as a monster, but all of the industry comes out to defend her and speak out in favor of her. Like you easily could have added that in and explained it for easily a minute each. I think those were some huge catastrophic events in LOONA's history and it was brushed over and not explained enough... if even at all touched upon... And now I'm here, 13 minutes in. And I just can't help but roll my eyes! Why are you such a ride or die for JJ after knowing what he did to the girls in the past? How can you ignore what the girls have said? Again, I too love the story of the LOONAverse and clearly somethings are put to rest as some of the girls have signed with him, but how can you just speak so highly of him like this? And it's like.. it just feels this video is just here to really speak more so on JJ and his impact in Kpop and LOONA... and again.. this is coming from someone who is interested in his creative process for storytelling in groups as well as his music taste (I also kept up with tripleS). Saying there's no LOONA feels like a slap in the face with how much the girls speak publicly about them still being LOONA, wanting/hoping to do ot12 activities with each other... etc... Also, as everyone else points out in like every comment- where is LOOSEMBLE or Yves in this video? "Belief in Jaden would be there when it looked like everything was going to be over." Can you be honest? Do you actually know about anything? Are you just like a surface level casual fan of LOONA? Because this is actually insane to hear. It'd be nice, if you'd put out some disclaimer/apology of sorts, that explains that you're a casual fan who just was a fan of LOONA for their music and lore, and that's it. Because that's fine! It would make this video more understandable if you genuinely had no idea what LOONA spoke out about and went through. Because that's what this video feels like. Surface level info where JJ is some hero who is swooping in to save LOONA and was always there for them and supported them. I hope you might take the time to look up what LOONA has specifically said about what they've went through in the past, and do some research on what LOONA and orbits went through since their debut with Heejin's solo. It's insane how much you leave out that actually matters when it comes to LOONA disbanding and how much you put into this video that is just praising JJ and other things. Tl;dr I'm sad and disappointed in this video and the crucial information that was left out but should have been included in this video.

[@alinastqn]

Thank you for spending time writing all of this, i hope more people can find your comment because its genuinely shocking to see how ignorant this video is, and when i think about it it feels like JJ paid him to hide the truth because thats just crazy

[@chl65g86]

next time just name the video my love letter to jaden jeong freak

[@weewee0]

i guess loossemble and yves just aren't loona anymore 🤣🤣

[@weewee0]

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[@weewee0]

🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂@RoyaleMusical

[@weewee0]

🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂@RoyaleMusical

[@weewee0]

🤦‍♂@RoyaleMusical

[@weewee0]

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[@mhhmmhhmm]

Love the video you created, I personally wonder why you didn't mention CTDenm., LOOSSEMBLE or what Chuu and Yves are up to? ARTMS is only one 1/3 of the new LOONA saga.

[@archiveofyass]

because he’s stupid and loves jaden jeong

[@markigirl2757]

What happened t Yves never seen her since

[@zacharikurbah6358]

@@markigirl2757 Yves will be debut as a solo artist, she's still in talks of looking for an agency

[@weewee0]

jaden didn't save loona either (triple s and artms saved HIM) so idfk what you're talking about, literally more members signed with other companies than they did with jaden i think that explains everything x

[@tepuntopunto]

sure grandma, lets get you to bed

[@weewee0]

@@tepuntopunto its a legitimate fact. jaden has failed MULTIPLE times with lovelyz, ladies' code, loona, only one of and then triple s and artms are coming along to try to help him pursue his dream finally.

[@tepuntopunto]

@@weewee0 "its a legitimate fact!!!" -someone whos outside the situations and knows nothing of it

[@weewee0]

@@tepuntopunto how is it not a legitimate fact that jaden is the one that needed saving not LOONA?

[@CatallenaLalalala]

​@tepuntopunto how about you go back to bed, grandma. JJ may have good ideas but he's an absolute fuckup and it's a pattern he's had with pretty much all his ggs. Loona only became as successful as they are because of fans' love for them and the girls' hard work. Not to mention, they started getting more successful after he left (which again happened to some of his other ggs too). So what exactly did he do for them? The only thing I can give him credit for is the loonaverse and pre-debut to XX music.

[@PolecanePC]

9M to debut LOONA was debunked by Jaden Jeong himself. He said in one of interviews that it was 2-3M USD. The 9M was just for mediaplay.

[@10vivid19]

loved the part where you mentioned the other 7 girls who aren't in ARTMS!

[@glitzy8599]

how about you title the video “find out about what artms is doing” because you clearly didn’t mention lossemble yves or chuu

[@toastpavedtheway]

you are not taking abt loossemble or yves in any moment

[@larsnanders]

Not you leaving info how jj left ladies code and lovelyz after loterally being their main creative director… the amount of misinformation and ingnoring main aspects is astounding. selling out for modhaus and not metioning it in the video… gurl.

[@kyujinz]

i really hope jaden jeong didnt like commission this and purposefully get him to exclude loossemble and yves lol

[@orbitthemoon]

loona is for all 12 members, so this doesn’t make sense to me. sure we get artms seems to be the most safe option rn with modhaus behind them and good links to producers and stuff but, it really falls flat with orbits if you’re going to focus only on 5/12 members of loona? i clicked on this thinking that everyone would be covered. instead, we barely mentioned the other 5/12 girls, chuu, or yves and her really interesting solo approach

[@InternetsNathan]

So yeah, I know I went for milk and didn't comeback but now We are SO BACK! Making a lot of new videos and fresh takes on videos you already like from me! LETS GET IT! Oh, and Odd Eye Circle was pretty chill 😅

[@kurzweber3041]

Welcome back!

[@Pollo.a.la.crema.]

Thank you so much for giving the LOONA girls love, I was hoping you would talk about Loosemble, and the other two solo girls but maybe part two?

[@decide2think]

And before you know it, OEC in Europe then back again! Successful tour!

[@padisuromertani]

Jaden is not our savior, credit is where credit due but putting him as the godfather or savior is a bit too much...

[@uhh4524]

Went into this expecting something actually informative about what happened after only for you to focus on artms and completely disregarding the rest. You talked about jaden more than the group themself? Don’t include loona in the title if youre not gonna actually talk about them

[@weewee0]

LOOSSEMBLE COMEBACK SEPTEMBER 15TH!!!

[@akosicvy]

i wasn’t there when oec debuted as a subunit. i’ve only been an orbit since so what, and i’m not as big of a stan as others are. but, seeing oec debut/redebut/comeback had me feeling all the feels. i miss my moon girlies! i know they won’t be back as ot12 soon, but i have hope that they will be back in the future.

[@kimberlyvuong6396]

Stan loona ❤

[@slyddle]

Hurrraaayyyy I was waiting for the new video to drop!!!

[@mercedesrichardson4515]

Yay! So glad you could interview them in person!

[@wemestros]

is this a modhaus sponsored video? lol

[@larsnanders]

For sure, modhaus has been doing stunts like this for triples like paying random tiktokers to use triples’ songs for tiktoks 🤡

[@legalizemarinara]

yeah, i'll be real, i don't trust any orbit who doesn't give the time of day to loossemble. loona is the 12 girls, they are still loona because of overcoming THEIR own hardships, jj has nothing to do with it, and in fact caused some of it! loona does not only exist under jaden.

[@aquaticko]

Honestly, having the overflowing handful of gems that are LOONA and their creative team, and running them til they were literally falling apart, not paying them, basically slandering them....BBC absolutely did not deserve to have any control over this immensely talented group of people.

[@MidoriRick]

Being an orbit has been painful but seeing how hard they’re trying makes it worth it

[@blackroseinbloom]

I would sell my left leg to see Loona pull a Taylor Swift and all 12 of them re-record their songs under a new name. Not sure if that’s even possible for them, but a girl can dream.

[@sarangfied]

They can get the name "LOONA" but not "girl of the month"

[@kkentaii]

​@@sarangfied😭😭😭tbf they never did girl of the month ever again after their solos so

[@drww1]

i believe it was either OEC or maybe Monotree have said they are game to re-record whenever the ladies up for it

[@marj4330]

its pissing me off so much how you centralize loona’s success towards one person as if it was handed on a silver platter to the members themselves. LOONA’S SUCCESS IS BECAUSE OF THE GIRLS THEMSELVES. They saved themselves, they weren’t saved by someone.

[@xyzbladze4541]

The other "LOONA" members erasure sure is real cuz why you just bringing up artms or oec when half of the girls decided to be together? Also chuu is having a comeback and yves is also preparing to go solo and that to you isn't worthy of a mention? Next time don't make the shilling to obvious

[@mangomangomango8368]

The collab group at 0:13 is Def H1key!!!! I love them, can't wait to see what you did with them!!

[@padisuromertani]

Dude, the sooner we realized Jaden is not our savior, the better it's...

[@Mymymy23]

I don’t like to consider him a savior either but he did support and help the girls a lot

[@padisuromertani]

@@Mymymy23 a lot being the bare minimum

[@Mymymy23]

@@padisuromertani the members said it themselves that Jaden kept in contact with them while they were still under bbc and gave them advice. They’ve talked about how grateful they are to him multiple times. The bare minimum is not signing them under his company and redebuting oec immediately after

[@padisuromertani]

@@Mymymy23 the bare minimum is actually care about the member while he's the one responsible for it during predebut-2019, but from what we know through yyxy experience, he's not someone we can rely or trust

[@Mymymy23]

@@padisuromertani he wasn't the one responsible for it because he was the creative director not the ceo nor their manager. And the video is about artms who clearly trust him, doesn't really matter whether fans do or not

[@mylifeisrosy5729]

there’s seven other members you didnt mention??

[@archiveofyass]

Very weird video…. jaden jeong is not a good person regardless. respect the girls. they deserve more respect than him. it’s very weird how you center a video on a man that left them to dust and don’t mention loona themselves and their new achievements

[@CatallenaLalalala]

Thank you. The fact is, they only got more successful after JJ left. So crediting everything to other people is so insulting to the loona members. Of course, he and all the other people who worked with loona deserve credit too, but most orbits I know stayed with loona because of the music and more importantly because of the GIRLS themselves and their bond and talent.

[@archiveofyass]

@@CatallenaLalalala 10000% he only held them back

[@CatallenaLalalala]

​@@archiveofyassabsolutely. They barely did any promotion from debut to XX. And they had so much stuff suddenly during #. His "mysterious" gg idea simply does not work for a kpop group and probably never will.

[@이재혁-o2l]

Grades are not everything. The fact is that BlockBerry's slave contract resulted in Chuu leaving loona, followed by other members winning the case. Loona had a great music video and song when Jaden Jung was there. Luminous is a low-key copy of butterfly itself. Blockberry dropped Jaden Jung for the reason of reducing LOONAVERSE, but BlockBerry also shows its active use of LOONAVERSE on the "Flip that" album. It is a very contradictory and strange move. BlockBerry is a company that pays back the wages of choreographers and managers. I don't believe in Blockberry. Many global orbits overlook, and if Jaden Jung hadn't picked Chuu, there wouldn't be a "Stan Loona" meme. It's BlockBerry that should be blamed, not jaden jung.

[@이재혁-o2l]

​@@CatallenaLalalalaLoona didn't promote? OnlyOneOf, an 8D group where JJ was in A&R, did a lot of V Live. Loona, on the other hand, did not do V Live and broadcast on a new platform called Mylive (Yeojin's convenience store live). And BlockBerry lost a lawsuit against Mylive's company, Donuts, and paid 360 million won. At this point, I think you know who the problem is.

[@chs1311]

Making a video about Loona and purposefully ignorning half of the members, how much did JJ pay you?

[@Leaenab.]

That's the real question that needs answers.🤔

[@frogeyecircle6913]

not one mention of yves loossemble & chuu alright how much did you get paid for this

[@Bennime_Once]

On one hand im jealous that you got to meet them. on the other I just saw them myself a couple of weeks ago right in front of me so lol. They are such great performers, I cant wait for what the future holds for them. Wish them all the best, the ARTMS, loosemble girls aswell as chuu and yves.

[@crazypanda4592]

He simply had to investigate for himself; as an orbit I admire the dedication Edit: I do wish that all members were mentioned in detail. While I absolutely love ARTMS, that’s only 5 out of the 12 members.

[@sept4799]

Exactly 😂 🔥

[@sourduet]

he got so many things wrong

[@naxorbit]

as orbit could not admire someone who does not give clear information, making it known that jaden saved the girls and not reflecting the true struggle of each to be free from bbc. Being a real orbit you would understand why some went with Jaden and others the other way.

[@toastpavedtheway]

and he got so many thigns wrong

[@crazypanda4592]

⁠@@naxorbit I agree with this. While I don’t believe Jaden was the “bad guy” as he was made out to be when he left BBC, I do not believe that he “saved” Loona. Only 5 members chose to join Modhaus, which is valid.

[@toomanysuns]

Just finding it very interesting that you were able to mention tripleS but not Loossemble and Yves, and how you're implying that Jaden Jeong was the biggest factor in Loona's success when they've actually had a huge rise in popularity after XX. You claim to be an orbit, but completely brush over how the girls have talked about how Jaden would starve them and force them to keep their hair blonde even though they had headaches from the constant bleaching. It's also a little outdated to contribute's a girl group's success to a man, right?

[@sijilraza3175]

trigger warning: if you are an orbit you cant get through the whole video without crying a few times

[@Ash2theB]

I'm going support the girls regardless of what can company they are in. I'm got tickets for the upcoming tour. I wish I could have seen OEC in Paris during their European tour.

[@loverinth]

you forgot to mention that jaden jeong starved the girls and he caught yves eating once so he took her food and then publicly posted about it making fun of her! 😊

[@444tz]

source?

[@cherryhyej00o0]

Becoming an Orbit and experiencing the rise and fall and rise of these 12 amazing girls will never leave my memory EVER Im still hoping for an Ot12 collab in the near future but in the meantime lets enjoy ARTMS, Loossemble, Yves, and Chuu's individual activities❤️

[@revetaste]

since you want to suck up to jaden jeong so much, nathan, here's a list of terrible things he did to loona whilst he was a part of bbc: ! pretty big tw for st@rving and diet1ng ! - he refused to allow jinsoul to dye her hair due to the 'concept' despite her saying her scalp hurt from the constant bleaching - he wouldn't let the girls eat as to not gain weight, yves was quoted saying she 'wanted to d1e back then' because of how strict things were - just to reiterate the last point, he had them eating A SINGLE APPLE AND TWO EGG WHITES A DAY!!! NOTHING MORE!!! they had to beg managers to let them eat a sandwich because they were so desperate. mind you most of the girls were young and still growing so this would have seriously affected their development - hyeju (formerly olivia hye) was forced to do a 7 day fast which eventually turned into an 8 day fast after she had a phone call from jaden saying she couldn't eat he didn't want her to be 'bloated' for a shoot the next day - hyeju was forced into a diet and stayed home alone whilst the other girls went out so she could keep up with their he diet, she said she cried alone in her bed because of this - he wouldn't release content the girls worked hard on, often to the frustration of the other staff that worked on the projects - choerry said that when she looks back on the love cherry motion mv, she thinks she was too young for the concept and the styling, lyrics etc were too sexual for a 16 year old (she was 15 when filming) - jaden stated he wanted to create "the most unknown female group", literally admitting to keeping loona from succeeding. he was pretty obsessed with this idea and would stop the girls from posting on social media to go along with the idea of an underground group in conclusion the real credit to loonas success are the orbits who have supported them through everything, not one terrible man who ab^sed all of loona when they were mostly teenagers. this video was incredibly uncomfortable to watch knowing how much the actions of jaden jeong negatively impacted the girls mentality and physically. do better.

[@sourduet]

this is pissing me off badddd

[@simsenshi]

'what happened to loona' yet u ignored half of the members..? yeah okay

[@jeanvaloroener6235]

Did Jaden Jeong fund this video ijbol

[@lexlex5555]

How about Loossemble, Yves, and Chuu 😌

[@lexlex5555]

@RoyaleMusical i meant that they weren't mentioned

[@lexlex5555]

@RoyaleMusical still could've mentioned that at least, even if it's the minor stuff like blogs or attending some event

[@lexlex5555]

@RoyaleMusical could've made this an ARTMS vid and not a LOONA vid if that were the case

[@gowomese]

poorly researched don't speak on them anymore please loona's story centers around 12 women

[@hisuianpitch]

this isnt a video about loona, its about jaden and artms. if this was about loona you would've talked about loossemble and yves alongside artms. stop painting that man as a saviour.

[@CatallenaLalalala]

You forgot to mention how JJ treated the girls terribly yet somehow people still suck up to him and discredit the girls' hard work ❤️

[@ouriiangel]

jj treated ladies code terribly when they were grieving

[@CatallenaLalalala]

@@ouriiangel that's also true. He's always messed up his ggs. I don't understand why people like licking his boots so much.

[@isenpeii1328]

And I heard that he forced a ooo (?) members to hide his eyes with his hairs

[@isenpeii1328]

And he also licked fetish fanarts of boy group members

[@greasemachine42]

is there any hard evidence of this though??? he was just the creative director, not their manager

[@phuwinagenda]

what about loossemble what about yves what about chuu theyre still loona with artms and also loona isn’t gone its very much alive and thriving maybe not all together but this video makes it seem like they’ve all disbanded when they’ve met up ot12 several times ot12 is forever

[@sijilraza3175]

I AM SO PROUD OF LOONA AND MY FELLOW ORBITS❤❤

[@kangkangmygoat]

i am looking forward to everything… even those who signed under that different company, that has 12 dots as logo with the 4 who signed filling 4 into color, their individual representative colors from loona. its so nice to see all holding onto loona and wanting to continue the story

[@SweetforS]

Lmao it’s 5 though. The way Loona split was quite identical. 5 to one, 5 to the other, and chuu and yves solo. It’s just that one of the dots is grey and therefore hard to see

[@ondatheworld]

Perfect day to release this video since we found out Chuu won her lawsuit!! I hope you will make a video discussing Loossemble's side of things once they release music.

[@hanene227]

welcome back! I loved the video, can you do what happened to Rain and Taemin next?

[@godssemble]

how much did he pay you

[@panananananana]

What a disappointing video - how much did jj pay you, nathan? Lol

[@thecriticalriposte]

This story is so much more awesome than I expected. Thanks for helping to bring it forward! I need to buy both versions of K and all three of Version Up.

[@jorgeasfurapadilla4911]

0:00 Jinsoul reference

[@veranielsen8856]

why did you literally spend 20 minutes just sucking up to jaden 💀💀 and you didn’t even mention yves but you mentioned chuu in doing her own thing ??? also your timeline is choppy and confusing cuz if i remember correctly the other members didn’t file for anything before chuu’s removal but after,, i also kinda really hate the fact that you only talked about the artms/odd eye circle group as they have visibly more solo stans than the others girls AND you talking about the “end” of loona even though multiple members have said they weren’t disbanded

[@sourjellies]

I saw the girls live in berlin last week and this is making me miss them so much 🥲 love the video!!!

[@cryingsobbing]

good video and glad you enjoyed yourself! cannot wait for artms' future activities :-)

[@frankst1107]

"Delayed but someday" still kinda hurts haha I need hyper ballad

[@KPOPJunkee]

JINSOUL?!?!?!?!?!?! 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@kkottii]

You spent more time talking about Jaden than any of the LOONA members. Might as well change the title of the video. Absolutely no mentions about Yves (her production crew, solo shoots) or Loossemble (Run Orbit event, upcoming US tour). Horrible research.

[@JarretS87]

Loona's not dead. It's just a new beginings

[@kangkangmygoat]

OMG I MISSED YOU!!!

[@AfroJeffrey]

I just saw OEC literally yesterday, and this reminded me Girl Front was the 1st LOONA song I listened that hooked me. OEC

[@blackwater224]

I went to the Loona concert in Reading, PA and I felt sooo bad for the girls especially with what happened before the concert. When Haseul came out in a sling, I felt so bad for her and wished that they could just go home and rest. It was cool to see all the different colors of the members light up in the venue but it didn't feel like Loona without all 12. A part of me wished that I had not bought my ticket because it was very hard to see a group I really love be treated so horribly by a company.

[@harmonylucas9139]

what an informative video! i love how you didnt bring up loossemble and yves and seemingly forgot to mention how shit jaden jeong is and how he has a history of treating groups terribly, that he also abused loona! i love to see uneducated people praise abusers. 😊 also i loved how you used official mvs in your video with heejin, despite knowing about the boycott and such.

[@lizbeth-zr4rm]

I’ve been a fan since heejin was revealed lmao I was one of those who thought her soloist name was heejin. Anyway I’m glad they’re all doing better

[@elizabethgeoghegan5167]

There will always be something sacred about Ladies Code and their baby sister group. LC would not let tragedy define them, LOONA simply “going through the wars” and coming out on top in 2024 (outstanding work this yr). The resilience is inspiring.

[@incomiiiiiiing6646]

I’ve been a subscriber for a while but i’m sad to say this video is simply not it. It feels like you’re saying everything good that happened to loona was thanks to jaden and you left out huge chunks of their many struggles and fights, not to mention you spend more time talking about triple s than loosemble and yves. This is a video filled with misinformation and i frankly see it as a disrespect to Loona, a group of 12 women who were constantly mistreated and overworked by a company ran by men old enough to be their fathers, jaden unfortunately wasn’t an angel on their story. All of those girls sang and danced their asses off while not being allowed to eat or even leave their dorms for more than an hour, they performed even when sick, they were the ones working for their promo they did all that without even getting paid and in the end they could only rely on each other and no one else, everything LOONA achieved is because of LOONA only.