i3wm on Windows

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ThePragmaticAutomator

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@toofaeded5260
@toofaeded5260 11 ай бұрын
Extremely glad that your video came across my recommendations. As someone who is using nvim in Powershell, not being able to optimize my OS for productivity has been quite annoying. Cheers.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
I hope the flexibility to 'close the program' for non-productivity helps you get a better work/life balance as well :)
@arir43
@arir43 11 ай бұрын
1:00 You can hold down the mod key (usually the OS/Super/Windows key) and drag windows in i3 on Linux as well.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Ah didn't know that. thank you for letting me know. I think when I was using linux I was in 'only keyboard mode' 😅
@elonism7471
@elonism7471 11 ай бұрын
today i understood the power of internet. u mentioned you were looking for solution i3 for windows or close to it for last 5 years and here i just google it and your youtube video shows up which was uploaded 3 weeks ago and this explains how much time internet saved for me otherwise i could've been searching for the solution for all over the web so thanks and i mean it
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Be sure to share what you spend hours looking for. You never know who'll find it useful 💪
@tanawatjukmongkol2178
@tanawatjukmongkol2178 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this. I'll still use Linux as my daily driver, but this has got to be a god send for me as a wm enjoyer having forced to use Windows for university work.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Glad to have helped :) Have fun working
@reezlaw
@reezlaw 10 ай бұрын
Same, I am forced to use windows (which I despise) for work, this might just make it more bearable
@holalluis
@holalluis 6 ай бұрын
I used i3 in the past and I loved it, but in my job I had to use windows and I missed i3 every single day for some years. I'm marrying to this program right now!
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 6 ай бұрын
Glad I could help ❤️
@Revirst
@Revirst 11 ай бұрын
nice to finally have a window manager on windows
@ggsap
@ggsap 11 ай бұрын
it already has dwm
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@markusTegelane
@markusTegelane 11 ай бұрын
tiling window manager******
@funnifurrytechgirl
@funnifurrytechgirl 11 ай бұрын
"Look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power" On a serious note, this is actually really neat and I'll recommend it to a few of my friends who are forced to use Windows
@Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez
@Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez 11 ай бұрын
Well, a lot of things linux can do under the hood is possible with windows, but people start with windows as a children just bashing keys, not having proper education on what it is capable of, so most people are doing linux because of wrong reasons... Just mere fact that most linux users are surprised that windows has command prompt/console, too is hilarious.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Love the reference. I believe people can use whatever they want, its hard enough to move. Whatever makes it easy for them to take action is a good thing :)
@TurtleKwitty
@TurtleKwitty 11 ай бұрын
@@Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez Except slanted displays that one is a unix only one haha
@Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez
@Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez 11 ай бұрын
@@TurtleKwitty Yeah, not even linux shills have that, yet !
@TurtleKwitty
@TurtleKwitty 11 ай бұрын
@@Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez That's blatantly false, there's been many reporting on it the last couple weeks XD
@tacokoneko
@tacokoneko 11 ай бұрын
thats really amazing congratulations on creating the perfect setup for you. personally my #1 favorite part of linux that i would never leave it for is the drivers. so its funny we are basically opposites because you have a setup that includes everything from linux but NOT any real linux hardware drivers and actually i configure my GUI to behave exactly like windows, but would never use windows because i want the linux-only drivers and apps. so we are really opposite
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
How interesting! Do you have anything you can share with me so I can learn more about the 'linux hardware drivers' world. I'll love to learn more and see what features of linux I'm missing.
@tacokoneko
@tacokoneko 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator i just wrote a 2000 word response listing actual dozens of things in detail that bare metal GNU/Linux has that WSL does not have but youtube deleted it when i posted it, thanks youtube. i guess i have to keep it brief, i'll mention some major things that are deal breakers for me personally about WSL - cannot have amdgpu kernel module and all features it provides including amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff, native /usr/bin/Xorg, /dev/fb0, native DRM backend of: ffmpeg, SDL2, kmscube, glmark2, includes everything that native Xorg can do that is not present in WSL-g like working ibus-typing-booster, copy and paste PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD, drag and drop, always on top/behind, global hotkeys, global screenshot tools like flameshot and gpick, working apps without the extreme graphical artifacts most apps have in WSL-g (list of Xorg features that nothing else has goes on and on for quite some time) - commands i explained in detail in the lost reply but hopefully you know why they dont fully work in WSL (only limited partial-to-no functionality due to VM sandbox) so ill just list some in this shorter response: chvt lspci lsusb kexec modprobe dmidecode ncdu ip openvpn parted fdisk efibootmgr iptables dd mount transset xrandr florence bluetoothctl alsamixer pactl pavucontrol helvum soundux easyeffects discord-screenaudio systemctl/rc-service/equivalents (windows services are not equivalent in features) the list goes on and on - large amounts of kernel space drivers that are superior to any windows option like the dualshock gamepad driver - MULTISEAT functionality, in many different modes BOTH virtualization-based AND NON-virtualization-based. Windows Server 2016's features exclusive to that windows version are a pale imitation of the power of multiseat on true UNIX-like OS. - performance overhead of the 2 OS sandbox instead of 1 OS bare metal in pretty much everything ESPECIALLY nested virtualization with KVM or nested LXC with Docker. this is pretty self explanatory im afraid if i make this longer that youtube won't allow it so if you have additional questions or need clarification or want examples of more things or more explanation then ask here or preferably message me on discord at account "owokitty" or matrix @owokitty:matrix org
@tacokoneko
@tacokoneko 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator i just wrote a 2000 word response listing actual dozens of things in detail that bare metal GNU/Linux has that WSL does not have but youtube deleted it when i posted it, thanks youtube. i guess i have to keep it brief, i'll mention some major things that are deal breakers for me personally about WSL - cannot have amdgpu kernel module and all features it provides including amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffffffff, native /usr/bin/Xorg, /dev/fb0, native DRM backend of: ffmpeg, SDL2, kmscube, glmark2, includes everything that native Xorg can do that is not present in WSL-g like working ibus-typing-booster, copy and paste PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD, drag and drop, always on top/behind, global hotkeys, global screenshot tools like flameshot and gpick, working apps without the extreme graphical artifacts most apps have in WSL-g (list of Xorg features that nothing else has goes on and on for quite some time) - commands i explained in detail in the lost reply but hopefully you know why they dont fully work in WSL (only limited partial-to-no functionality due to VM sandbox) so ill just list some in this shorter response: chvt lspci lsusb kexec modprobe dmidecode ncdu ip openvpn parted fdisk efibootmgr iptables dd mount transset xrandr florence bluetoothctl alsamixer pactl pavucontrol helvum soundux easyeffects discord-screenaudio systemctl/rc-service/equivalents (windows services are not equivalent in features) the list goes on and on - large amounts of kernel space drivers that are superior to any windows option like the dualshock gamepad driver - MULTISEAT functionality, in many different modes BOTH virtualization-based AND NON-virtualization-based. Windows Server 2016's features exclusive to that windows version are a pale imitation of the power of multiseat on true UNIX-like OS. - performance overhead of the 2 OS sandbox instead of 1 OS bare metal in pretty much everything ESPECIALLY nested virtualization with KVM or nested LXC with Docker. this is pretty self explanatory im afraid if i make this longer that youtube won't allow it so if you have additional questions or need clarification or want examples of more things or more explanation then ask here or preferably message me on discord at account "owokitty" or matrix [at symbol] owokitty [colon] matrix [dot] org
@tacokoneko
@tacokoneko 11 ай бұрын
sorry for double post youtube is very bugged. the original reply i wrote is still not here, but it might be visible in your youtube studio settings
@tacokoneko
@tacokoneko 11 ай бұрын
yeah youtube is deleting my responses so idk if youre going to be able to see this. ill keep trying to post it until it works
@Ironpants57
@Ironpants57 11 ай бұрын
Heck yea! I've used workspacer in the past and loved it. It works pretty well. Some issues i've had was some workspacer crashes. No worries, it just crashes the workspacer program and not the screen or computer. Once I learned that I can use the winget package manager, my immediate search was a tiling window manager lol. This was around 2020 before I switched to linux fully. So Workspacer should be pretty stable nowadays.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
I need to start using winget myself. Thank you for reminding me as well. Have a beautiful day
@maroon3353
@maroon3353 11 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work brother full support to see your channel growing asap! 1M someday for sure
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate the thought, thank you ❤️💪
@averagetechnologyenojyer
@averagetechnologyenojyer Ай бұрын
What an amazing automation! I was earlier using some program and it was buggy ill try this definitely, Thanks so much :)
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator Ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to comment. I'm ngl, it can be buggy but you can always turn it off and turn it back on when 'focus mode'. Hope it works out for you. I have found a bug with other users that if you have more than 3 monitors, it can behave erroneously. Something to look out for! Good luck
@averagetechnologyenojyer
@averagetechnologyenojyer Ай бұрын
@ThePragmaticAutomator I use a single monitor so I think ill get by without any hitch hehe ( ᵔ ᗜ ᵔ )
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator Ай бұрын
@@averagetechnologyenojyer let me know how it goes :)
@LDFort
@LDFort 11 ай бұрын
That background is superb
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. It's a background from a program called "live wallpaper". Would you like a tutorial?
@mattiola1082
@mattiola1082 8 ай бұрын
lol bro i havent seen u around since root and twitter @with I think it was
@NakedTrashPanda
@NakedTrashPanda 11 ай бұрын
Just checked it out. Seems great. Have tried other tiling WM on Windows but they are so buggy. This one is by far the best.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Enjoy! Do let me know if you encounter any problems. I think the best feature is that you can turn it off for those edge cases
@jntslinux
@jntslinux 11 ай бұрын
Man, this is awesome! I've always been looking for something like this since I discovered i3wm. Very good video.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@ySomic
@ySomic 11 ай бұрын
This is my biggest gripe for windows. Maybe I will actually have a windows installation running somewhere now.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Tell me about it - I'm glad I could show more people about this tile manager.
@Baditow
@Baditow 10 ай бұрын
thank you so much. definitely adding this to my pile of windows modifications. one step closer to compatibility linux.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 10 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@prakhargupta4347
@prakhargupta4347 9 ай бұрын
@Baditow write a blog on your configurations pls
@livb4139
@livb4139 11 ай бұрын
Is there any way to hide the window top bars?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the interest you had on this video and apologies I can't answer every single one. Good luck and have fun figuring it out, if you are doing it 💪❤️
@superangrybrit
@superangrybrit 11 ай бұрын
I wish the Windows team would put out an official api to do alternate window desktop managers. Oh well. Good video! 👍👍
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
We can dream. Or we can produce. Do or do not. That is the question.
@mattboh69
@mattboh69 11 ай бұрын
microsoft powertoys fancy zones
@juanignaciocarrizo715
@juanignaciocarrizo715 11 ай бұрын
I am in dual boot, switching constantly between Linux and Windows, this will help me stay in Windows trought the day, unless I reeally need a Linux tool, thanks for sharing (for anyone asking, I prefer Linux overall, but my computer is shared so I must leave it booted in Windows when i´m not using it so it gets really anoying)
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Glad I could help.
@livb4139
@livb4139 11 ай бұрын
any way you could add a spotify widget to the bar?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Something that needs further investigation. Great feature idea though
@questofanswers
@questofanswers 8 ай бұрын
i was thinking of doing this. and youtube recommended me this, (algorithm is getting better)
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 8 ай бұрын
Smart thing the algorithm. Glad I could help :)
@dante2859
@dante2859 7 ай бұрын
wow, this is awesome, i still prefer Arch Linux with I3WM, but this is great for when i have to use Windows.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 7 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@amalcolmi
@amalcolmi 11 ай бұрын
This is absolutely amazing! Some time ago, I was completely done with Windows, but lately, especially with Windows 11, they're not doing too bad. I decided to start using it again. Like you, I'm accustomed to using a lot of virtual machines, VLANs, connected to other PCs, Linux, and IoT. One of the things I missed the most was definitely a tiling window manager. Personally, I used Qtile and Xmonad, but pretty much tried most of them. I wasn't doing too bad since, with Tmux, I get somewhat the same functionality, as I use the terminal a lot. However, having this now is absolutely amazing!
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Glad i could help with your productivity
@Redyf
@Redyf 11 ай бұрын
I won't switch from linux but this is pretty cool, nice video bro
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@LDFort
@LDFort 11 ай бұрын
Idk what to say but I saw this comment a week ago and thought "yeah judging by that pfp he def played fn" then I saw a random video abt me on my recommended by upshall and saw you in the comments. 1 in a million chance
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
@@LDFort sorry I don't understand. What's a one in million chance?
@h2htill1
@h2htill1 11 ай бұрын
Great vid Junte 👍🏼
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
No worries, do let me know if you have any recommedation or questions on set up. Happy to make with another video to help :)
@l.q.dungngo2071
@l.q.dungngo2071 11 ай бұрын
i used komorebi for window management before switching entirely to Linux, but this looks cool too if this is easy for non-tech ppl to use i might even recommend this
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Please feel free to use my config to get going. Good luck and have fun
@chaquator
@chaquator 11 ай бұрын
workspacer has come a long way
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
It truly has. What do you use day to day?
@ashh-tangg
@ashh-tangg 11 ай бұрын
Nice and straight forward, all working great vid! 🙏
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
No worries, if you have anything else you want me to make. Please let me know :)
@ivanjermakov
@ivanjermakov 11 ай бұрын
What exactly do you do when gaming? Exit workspacer or it's like a fullscreen mode for workspace?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
I quit workspacer. Then game. The different feel of the computer helps go to game mode compared to work mode.
@dageta7742
@dageta7742 8 ай бұрын
Does the workspacer also have like a seperate fullscreen? Some games break on alt tabing. For example the Video "Why Tilling WM is best for games" by "GOLARA C64" showcases that with games.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 8 ай бұрын
The games I've tried to play with are valorant and league of legends. Unfortunately it didn't work and had to 'close' workspacer for it to fully funciton
@Celogj98
@Celogj98 7 ай бұрын
Love it, bro. Thanks so much
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 7 ай бұрын
Glad you like it
@haynerr
@haynerr 5 ай бұрын
how do you make your program borders transparent?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 4 ай бұрын
does this answer your question?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4a5pGyuiZyfhtE
@prakhargupta4347
@prakhargupta4347 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video. This is by far the best tiling manager for windows that I have tried(Komorebic, FancyWM). I just want to know how to minimize applications when workspacer is on?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 9 ай бұрын
Hey just make sure you include this line in the config: context.CanMinimizeWindows = true; This will allow you to minimise your window. Let me know if you encounter any problems
@prakhargupta4347
@prakhargupta4347 9 ай бұрын
​@@ThePragmaticAutomator Thanks for helping. i saw that in the config but was afraid to touch. One last question. How to make workspacer run at startup? I have tried adding the exe in shell:Startup but it's not working. I also tried GlazeWM yesterday. Workspacer is by far the best in my opinion. It's sad to see that this gem of a project is not being actively developed ☹
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 9 ай бұрын
@@prakhargupta4347 shell:startup is how I get it working. Can I ask your using windows 11/10 and send me a video of it not working?
@madeinhvn
@madeinhvn 11 ай бұрын
Oo this is amazing. In my windows, I'm using the dwm-32 (a windows port of suckless dwm) and it is kinda buggy and a bit unresponsive. For my arch, i use i3 and it's so amazing. I was literally searching for something similar to i3 for windows last night and today I got this in my feed 😂
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Glad I helped you find a solution to make both systems useful. I do miss i3wm but this is the functionality I wanted.
@TheDuckPox
@TheDuckPox 11 ай бұрын
does the workspace feature use the Windows's workspace? if not, does screen-independent workspace switching work? I really miss this feature both on Microsoft Windows Desktop and on KDE Plasma.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Hey @TheDuckPox, It works on multiple screen and I imagine it will work on multiple desktops too. Please report back if it doesn't
@le9038
@le9038 11 ай бұрын
and I thought this wouldn't be possible to have this power...
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
With great power. Comes greater procrastination + work 👌GL&HF
@oskarkarlsson8905
@oskarkarlsson8905 4 ай бұрын
Howd you make ur vscode transparent without making the text transparent?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 4 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4a5pGyuiZyfhtE
@Bluepaccao
@Bluepaccao 11 ай бұрын
WOW this is exactly what I've been looking for after getting used to working with i3wm on my work laptop. How does it respond to playing games with fullscreen/ windowed borderless?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Hey I haven't tested with windowed borderless as I just 'close the program' when I go 'game mode'. It'll be an easy thing to test once I'm back home. I'll let you know if I end up trying it.
@Bluepaccao
@Bluepaccao 11 ай бұрын
Alright, I will test the program tomorrow. Looks promising! @@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Hey how did it go? Just wanted to let you know windowed didn't play nicely with league and valorant. All the best.
@choppedcheesegaming
@choppedcheesegaming 11 ай бұрын
if i would have found this before i switched to linux full time i may have considered staying on windows lmao either way cool stuff that you're introducing i3 to windows users
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Apologies that I didn't make the video sooner! I'm sure if you go to windows again in the future it can be useful. Did you have to 'sacrfice' anything by switching to linux?
@shadamethyst1258
@shadamethyst1258 11 ай бұрын
I personally did not, back when I switched I was using firefox, atom and blender - all three of which are extremely well-supported on linux
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Glad you found a solution that works for you and your workflow
@Rayyan-hi2ge
@Rayyan-hi2ge 11 ай бұрын
i3WM on windows before Wayland, what a world.
@Algeriawindows69
@Algeriawindows69 11 ай бұрын
what does Wayland have to do with anything here
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
I've seen a few comments about waylander. Thank you for sharing something I didn't know
@user-wr7fe4mj8s
@user-wr7fe4mj8s 10 ай бұрын
link to the wallpaper? setup looks really nice!
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 10 ай бұрын
Hey its from 'wallpaper enginer' avaliable from steam: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2370927443
@nicolasbtw9210
@nicolasbtw9210 11 ай бұрын
What about komorebi?
@nicolasbtw9210
@nicolasbtw9210 11 ай бұрын
It’s still maintained
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 10 ай бұрын
Yh defo. Its been recommended a lot but not something i've used. I think I would try glazeWM just because of the yaml good-ness
@monochrome_linux
@monochrome_linux 11 ай бұрын
For MacOS theres yabai for i3/BSPWM like tiling and amethyst for DWM like tiling. Both are the same kinda jank like the windows one he mentioned. You'll have to use Linux if you want proper Tiling WMs, but for people who cant, these are the only options
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
I heard from a friend that an app called 'rectangle' does similiar things too. Hope this helps anyone using Mac
@monochrome_linux
@monochrome_linux 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator rectangle only gives you snap to edges feature like on windows 10 and 11, not automatic tiling. I have that on my Mac as well. Yabai and amethyst are automatic tilers
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
@@monochrome_linux Ah, didn't know that - thank you for letting me know
@aa898246
@aa898246 11 ай бұрын
thanks for showcasing this, i didnt know this existed on windows. does this work on windows 11?
@aa898246
@aa898246 11 ай бұрын
also i have the same reasoning, i only wanted to use linux for basically the tiling windows manager. linux is nice and customizable but nvidia drivers suck and wayland isnt good with nvidia yet. didnt want to really dualboot either. i appreciate
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
No worries man, I have tested this on my laptop for windows 11 and works with no problem except for the same bugs in windows 10. I am looking into alternatives that are more 'stable' from the youtube comments. Will look into making a video once investigate. Thank you for watching :)
@livb4139
@livb4139 11 ай бұрын
can you switch to N workspace with a shortcut like in i3wm or is it only next/previous workspace?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Yes you can. I'll be making a video on how to do this next.
@FarisEdits
@FarisEdits 11 ай бұрын
GlazeWM 💪
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Does look like a contender.
@jpmiller25
@jpmiller25 11 ай бұрын
How does this compare to komorebi??
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for bringing this one to my attention. I didn't know this one existed and I've seen from others similiar recommedations as well. Have you used komorebi personally?
@jpmiller25
@jpmiller25 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator I installed last week and it’s promising, and under active development. The dev was helpful on discord with a minor issue I was having. I’m new to tiling workflow though so don’t have much comparison.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
@@jpmiller25 Thanks for the reply - I'll have a look at it myself as well. Thank you for the recommendation :)
@nextprogram5945
@nextprogram5945 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator hello, did you try komerobi? im not sure which one is better and stable and the most similar to i3. thx
@joaopauloalbq
@joaopauloalbq 11 ай бұрын
Surprisingly responsive considering it's a third-party tool on top of the Windows window manager, which is closed source. Only Microsoft is capable of making a true tiling window manager as only they have the source code. So there will always be limitations.
@SwordfighterRed
@SwordfighterRed 11 ай бұрын
True enough, but if you're a Windows user of any stripe, you're always finding programs to improve your experience on Windows.
@verykittypretty
@verykittypretty 11 ай бұрын
its interacting with the native window manager through win32 api . its similar concepts to xorg and Wayland
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Yh if it slows me down, I would hate it. The fact that you can turn it off and go to native windows is also a feature imo
@running_machine
@running_machine 10 ай бұрын
I wonder how this looks for ultra-wide setup, as i sometimes use ultra widescreens
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 10 ай бұрын
Please make a video to see how this looks, I'll love to know
@tridibbiswas3361
@tridibbiswas3361 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. Just stumbled upon your video. Gave it try. Its very responsive but found some issues - it wasn't launching Microsoft Teams on a different windows. Yoututbe App on WIN 10 was time and again freezing. Also time and again while using outlook noticed that the window tiling option stopped working -especially if the windows app was made full screen using the F11.Not sure if its something to do with my operation. Also how do I completely quit and stop workspacer. I noticed even after quiting the workspacer the tile numbers 1-5 still remain and work. Have copied your config. I simply liked the program and would love to use it. Not sure if its under development anymore as the last update was somewhere in June 2022
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Have you tried the task manager and or killing it from your task bar? If you watch my 'basic workspacer configuration example' you see me 'quitting' and 'restarting' workspacer to try different configs. Hope this helps
@SebastianPerezG
@SebastianPerezG 11 ай бұрын
Windows had a few desktop replacement for explorer and one of them was litestep , i used a lot nearly in the 2000 , and before that. Was great.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
I had no idea "litestep" existed. Thank you for sharing5
@littlecurrybread
@littlecurrybread 11 ай бұрын
Probably a noob question, but this works for me but while in a terminal, I'm not able to switch to another workspace. I can only switch if I click outside of the terminal
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Hey sorry for the late reply but what do you mean by switch here?
@littlecurrybread
@littlecurrybread 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator hi! So I'm using wsl with ubuntu. If i'm in the terminal, then I try to press the shortcut to switch to a different workspace, nothing happens. It seems like the terminal maybe is blocking the command? So I have to click outside of the terminal like the desktop for example then I can switch. like these or customized commands don't work for me: alt-{1..9} switch to workspace {1..9}.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
@@littlecurrybread this makes sense. Thank you for clarification. Can I ask what your key bind for switching the workspace are? It also could depend on what 'terminal' you are using. I currently use 'windows terminal' from the store. (github.com/microsoft/terminal apps.microsoft.com/detail/9N0DX20HK701). Maybe this will also fix the issue?
@littlecurrybread
@littlecurrybread 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator oh! yknow what it was? I guess I opened windows terminal, the same one you linked, as Admin, and I needed to run workspacer as admin as well and now it worked! Appreciate you taking the time to reply! subbing
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
@@littlecurrybread I'm glad you managed to make it work and thank you for coming back to tell us the solution. 💪 No worries man, my pleasure
@Ahmad-lc1ln
@Ahmad-lc1ln 8 ай бұрын
Could u make animation between workstation like hyprlandwm
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 8 ай бұрын
I don't believe so.
@Ahmad-lc1ln
@Ahmad-lc1ln 8 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator cuz u can't, i've tried ur wm and it's like shit, i'm using glazewm right now
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 8 ай бұрын
Gutted that my solution didn't work but glad to hear that you found a solution that works for you
@drxw364
@drxw364 11 ай бұрын
does it disable dwm from ruining windows?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
I don't have personal experience of dwm, so can't answer this question. But thank you for showing me something I didn't know
@aimpizza6823
@aimpizza6823 11 ай бұрын
why use windows though? I know of some games that only work on Windows but besides that?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Hey, I currently use Davincii Resolve to edit and Stream Deck support for my hotkeys. The integration as a business owner is far better and compatiable than some of the linux stuff. For example it is very common for industry to use microsoft words instead of google docs. Which causes formatting issues. I'm trying to balance the need of a 'business' with what everyone uses, with the love and comfort I have on linux. Hope this answers your question
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Also Riot games ( Valorant + League ) only works on windows as far as I know
@aimpizza6823
@aimpizza6823 11 ай бұрын
I understand that balancing: there are probably workarounds for most things (I know of League working) but it's not worth the time and inconveinience for many
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
@@aimpizza6823 Exactly. As a learning thing I would encourage anyone to look into linux but at the end of the day. We sometimes have to use what other people find convience to use when working with others. Can't always be a solo dev forever. Thank you for the comments and insights :)
@nextprogram5945
@nextprogram5945 11 ай бұрын
linux desktop is generally shit
@ambuj.k
@ambuj.k 11 ай бұрын
Can you please make a similar video for MacOS?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Hey, I would love to but currently don't own a macos. Good luck in your search
@KRISTOF95TV
@KRISTOF95TV 6 ай бұрын
how to auto startup ?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 6 ай бұрын
put workspacer shortcut on shell:startup via win + R
@jolynele2587
@jolynele2587 11 ай бұрын
i would recommend komorebi but i haven't used a tiling wm in both linux and windows since forever so i don't know which is the better one. but komorebi is more up to date
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Yh your right. Workspacer is no longer being developed. Thank you for the recommendation
@AlmostBrokeLbs
@AlmostBrokeLbs 11 ай бұрын
I have been looking for something like this since windows 10 days
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
I was in the search for soemthing like this for 5 years. I'm glad this does everything "I want". I hope it gives you everything "you want" too.
@AlmostBrokeLbs
@AlmostBrokeLbs 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator It truly does, I have used it yesterday day and I LOVE IT. Thanks man, you got new subscriber
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
@@AlmostBrokeLbs thank you for coming back to say this. If you have any requests for content. Please do let me know. Remmeber if something doesn't work. To just quit the program.
@n-ju7sv
@n-ju7sv 7 ай бұрын
what DE is this? I like it
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 7 ай бұрын
DE?
@n-ju7sv
@n-ju7sv 7 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator desktop environment
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 7 ай бұрын
@@n-ju7sv the DE is nothing fancy. Just the default windows 10 with steam live wallpaper and encorporating workspacer. I do my best to keep this vanilla. Hope this answers your question :)
@n-ju7sv
@n-ju7sv 7 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator I thought that was linux lol
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 7 ай бұрын
@@n-ju7sv In this video, i'm showcasing how the 'workspacer' tile manager can be used to look like the Linux 'i3wm' tile manager for people who want the functionality of windows but the tile management system of windows. Glad you learnt something new :)
@nodge9671
@nodge9671 10 ай бұрын
Have you checked komorebi?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 10 ай бұрын
Hey I had a rough look but I'm in the philosophy of 'don't change what works'. One day - I will stop working and get to try out komoroebi. Today it is not a priority. Thank you for letting me know about it though, which one do you use atm?
@Luftbubblan
@Luftbubblan 7 ай бұрын
Looks interesting.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 7 ай бұрын
Let me know if it did or didn't work for you :)
@FlockofSmeagles
@FlockofSmeagles 9 ай бұрын
Komorebi is pretty good as well.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the recommendation, I'll give it a go once Workspace dies on me :)
@marsimplodation
@marsimplodation 11 ай бұрын
Nice project, is it possible to hide the titlebars? Like any normal i3 config If only windows would fix their bs data collection qnd make it usable without selling your kidney...
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Hey, I believe the title is customisable. I personally liked it so haven't investigated further. If you do find a solution please feel free to share.
@bolonekoplo2561
@bolonekoplo2561 2 ай бұрын
Wooooooooww!
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 2 ай бұрын
@@bolonekoplo2561 glad you liked it 👍
@max_ishere
@max_ishere 11 ай бұрын
I have finally found the solution to one of the reasons I installed linux.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
What are the others reasons? 👀
@kerboang
@kerboang 11 ай бұрын
I know this might sound like a stupid question, but I just want to make sure, does this work on Windows 11 too?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Hey, I tested this on my laptop which has windows 11. Seems to work but be prepared for bugs!
@kerboang
@kerboang 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator thanks! I’ll try this on my spare laptop
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Let me know how it goes :)
@deafpolygon
@deafpolygon 11 ай бұрын
you know this hasn't been updated in ~2 yr?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Yes, I'm aware. Fortunetly it does still work for windows 10 and windows 11. If you do want something that is fully supported I would recommend GlazeWM. Hope this helps
@MemeConnoisseur
@MemeConnoisseur 11 ай бұрын
works better than komorebi, always wanted something like this thanks
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Glad it helped
@Junky4me-zq9bu
@Junky4me-zq9bu 11 ай бұрын
powertoy >> fancy zone same thing if you seek alternative
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
glazewm and komorebi are other alternatives too
@matt92hun
@matt92hun 11 ай бұрын
Windows already supports tiling your windows in any configuration you please. Workspaces as well.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
I assume you are referring to power toys and workspaces (not the one I show cased but windows offering). I do believe that solution does work for a huge amount of people but it didn't satisfy my itch for i3wm. Please use whatever makes you move and be productive. Sometimes its a 'feel' thing which are based on what we are used to as well.
@matt92hun
@matt92hun 11 ай бұрын
I think work spaces have been a part of Windows since 10 latest, maybe earlier, it doesn't require power toys.. And you could tile windows with the Windows button + arrow keys since 7. Although I don't think rearranging windows after you close one has ever been an option. In tiling is even better, tiled windows can be tabbed to together, kind of like work spaces within work spaces. The only thing it's missing is being able to tile linux windows running in WSL. @@ThePragmaticAutomator
@DitjonThaqi
@DitjonThaqi 9 күн бұрын
anyone tried to use actual i3 via WSLg?
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 4 күн бұрын
I haven't yet but if you do get it working let me know how it went :)
@ilokiwiq
@ilokiwiq 11 ай бұрын
Was looking forward to this, Fancy WM lacks config, komorebi was too wanky to set up... hoping this works for me :)
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
I hope my config works for you too. Hope it went well.
@linuxrant
@linuxrant 11 ай бұрын
yeah. I remember me installing windowgrid(to get windowsnapping), rocketdock(to get a bottom icon panel) and special fonts antialiasing method(i dont remember the name), because I loved how linux did those things. now I completely switched to Linux and I never looked back. I think you are a Linux user just you don't know it yet. :)
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
I am a Linux user... But the battle for "ease of use" from what everyone knows is too great... 😂😭
@Rundik
@Rundik 10 ай бұрын
It's not i3, it's just a generic window manager which has nothing to do with the i3 project
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 10 ай бұрын
This is correct.
@exxon47_
@exxon47_ 11 ай бұрын
1:02 wrong i3 has full mouse support
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me know of my mistake
@brefasdra
@brefasdra 11 ай бұрын
I work full screen 95% of the time, other apps go on monitor 2 or 3 also usually full screen.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Whatever makes an individual move is the best productivity tool
@RetroRick1990
@RetroRick1990 11 ай бұрын
For some of this features we can use power tools software…
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Yh I played with power tools and there are always alternatives. I couldn't quite get what I wanted with power tools, but glad it works for you :)
@kenny976
@kenny976 11 ай бұрын
GlazeWM is better and actually maintained
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
I do love their yaml config. Thank you for sharing.
@Vicorcivius
@Vicorcivius 11 ай бұрын
This is like putting a saddle on a pig.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
A pig that lets you move and go in the direction you want is a good pig
@acclorite_
@acclorite_ 11 ай бұрын
Interesting, but it'll never compare to actual i3 or another wm. If you like WMs, why don't you switch to Linux? I mean I'm pretty sure you can run almost every program on Linux or a game rn. Fore example, you can test every program you need in Virtual Machine before switching.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Hey you are completely correct in that it doesn't compare to i3wm. It does however do everything 'i need'. Which wasn't much. 'Full screen' and 'auto sizing'. This can also be done with hacks with auto hot key etc. I didn't want to spend the time/money/energy into things that were distracting me from 'work'. This was a quick win due to the fast installation and 'abort' button incase I encounter problems. I do one day want to dive into my iw3m configuration but its a luxury I don't want/have right now compared to my other priorities.
@acclorite_
@acclorite_ 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator Okay then, at least that's something already, I think you'd be happy to switch to WM
@NotSeggsySage
@NotSeggsySage 11 ай бұрын
I m just tired of windows at this point. I make changes using scripts and whatnot to fit my use case and the next feature update breaks it. Hyprland is god sent for me (almost a year without any major changes in config).
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Gutted to hear that you can't get the experience you want in windows. What's causing you to not switch to Linux?
@NotSeggsySage
@NotSeggsySage 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator i already switched.
@__Brandon__
@__Brandon__ 11 ай бұрын
You should try gaming on Linux again. It kinda just works now an days unless the game publisher disabled Linux using anticheat
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
The games I play are csgo, valorant and league of legends at the moment. I know there are work arounds but currently time pressured to do other things in my life. I do miss the days where I could go to linux deep dive.
@jonathanliang4275
@jonathanliang4275 11 ай бұрын
yo if you invest in a solid mic your channel could def blow up
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Will do, trying to slowly improve my audio quality. Appreciate the feedback
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
If you have any more feedback, content ideas/equipment improvement. Feel feel to let me know here or by email junte.kim@mealcraft.com. Love to hear from anyone to improve my channel
@DavidZetaKrone
@DavidZetaKrone 11 ай бұрын
I mean, WSL was meant to be "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" for Linux, and your love of it proves that it's working. So, kudos on that I guess. But on the subject of the actual video, I'll give workspacer a try. I had to move back to Windows after I encountered a hardware issue as I don't have the money to invest in an AMD/Linux system replacement right now, and Windows is making me miss tiling something fierce. I'm currently running Komorebi but as far as I've seen tiling on Windows has been *incredibly* buggy. It randomly stops working at a moment's notice, applications decide they're going to stay on the workspace without any say-so on my part (as if pinned), sometimes they just don't move no matter what you're doing (Firefox, for instance)... it's been a mess. I miss Linux. Maybe Workspacer will be a better experience.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
If you liked that I would highly recommend my 'WSL2: Pragmatic Software Development' video where I showcase the 'embrace, extend, extinguish' mentality. I hope workspacer is a better experince, I've found that most people prefer GlazeWM. Maybe this alternative is a better one for you. Good luck on your search and your use case
@samir2zk135
@samir2zk135 11 ай бұрын
Man i thought this was impossible on windows, but ehh still easier on linux to customize for me.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
WAAY easier on linux. That is one of linux super powers. I hope it helps people stuck in the windows eco system like myself 😅
@samir2zk135
@samir2zk135 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator IK what you mean, tbh I swapped to Linux like an year ago pretty much everything can get it working, except things like very new or bad game anticheats. And, things like HDR and stuff aren't there yet. But, the superior experience in doing many things just trades it off. Making it better. Everything will slowly come, though. I mean if you look at it 10 years ago it's totally different from now.
@vzwopx
@vzwopx 11 ай бұрын
King
@kooamon
@kooamon 11 ай бұрын
PowerToys Fancy Zones
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Fancy zones biggest disadvantage to me was that it couldn't 'automatically' choose a zone. I'm happy to be proven wrong :)
@nifftbatuff676
@nifftbatuff676 11 ай бұрын
But windows already has these functionalities...
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
It does have similar but not automatically in terms of tiling. I'm also assuming you are talking about different work stations which windows do have. No such thing as a new idea. Glad you have a solution that works for you.
@ianthethird420
@ianthethird420 4 ай бұрын
The coding benefits of Windows 💀
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 4 ай бұрын
ngl, been enjoying a lot more with this tool
@ggsap
@ggsap 11 ай бұрын
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Not a big fan?
@ggsap
@ggsap 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator Thats very insulting of you to call me a fan
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
"Not a fan": A person or individual who isn't interested in the solution of window tile system on windows.
@ggsap
@ggsap 11 ай бұрын
@@ThePragmaticAutomator I am not talking about the window manager here
@easylite376
@easylite376 11 ай бұрын
This tool is unmaintained since september 2023. The main maintainer steps down, because he is not using windows anymore and nobody else took over, so it is essentialy dead software. An alternative is Komorebi.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
This is true. Thank you for telling other alternatives
@oredaze
@oredaze 11 ай бұрын
Very cool, but you know, there is linux...
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Lol thank you for letting me know
@sunofabeach9424
@sunofabeach9424 11 ай бұрын
hey, an asian soyjak just dropped
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
??.
@nicolaastanghe475
@nicolaastanghe475 11 ай бұрын
Its unusable with all the titlebars.
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Hey you should be able to get rid of it in the config. Did you use my configuration file?
@user-ge2vc3rl1n
@user-ge2vc3rl1n 11 ай бұрын
The difference is that Linux can use like 750mb running a wm and the entire OS and this "solution" would use like 4gb to run all the windows bloat + a wm in addition. I use linux as a daily driver, but on my windows machine I wouldn't want to bloat it further. I like the concept though.
@5omebody
@5omebody 11 ай бұрын
i doubt a wm would use very much memory, especially that it's not doing any compositing anyway, it'd just be getting and setting window positions
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
According to my task manager it is using about 68.3MB of ram. Hope this information helps.
@carpetedrestroom5218
@carpetedrestroom5218 11 ай бұрын
windows users are going to do everything except use linux
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
It's a tradeoff unfortunately. Balance between "it just works" vs "time to get it working"
@laszlopeterbalazs8040
@laszlopeterbalazs8040 11 ай бұрын
windows if it wasnt a mid soyware
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
What do you use daily?
@laszlopeterbalazs8040
@laszlopeterbalazs8040 11 ай бұрын
dwm and freebsd, no hate towards the vid I think it's great@@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Just curious to expand my horizon too. Thank you for letting me know
@samucancld
@samucancld 11 ай бұрын
buggy af
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that
@wh7988
@wh7988 11 ай бұрын
This is so cursed
@deleted-test
@deleted-test 11 ай бұрын
right
@ThePragmaticAutomator
@ThePragmaticAutomator 11 ай бұрын
Gutted it didn't help your solution
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