i7 7700K vs i3 12100F - Can The Last Quad Core i7 Keep Up?

[@rometherevenant8749]

Patrick: Its okay little guy take your time. (Pets i7 7700k)

[@RandomGaminginHD]

😂

[@MrSamadolfo]

😒👍🐢🐢🐢🐢

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Then in a race with a 7800x3d, the 7700k somehow wins

[@baksooobaksooo4816]

in ur dream ​@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716

[@ab_xar]

I think the older gens should be consider as elder processors👴

[@aid0nex]

Im still daily driving the i7 7700K with 32GB of DDR4 and a GTX 1080. Together with a fast m2 SSD, I can play all games I want - at least in 1080p.

[@MjkL1337]

that's beastly config even for today in my opinion.

[@aid0nex]

@@MjkL1337 yes it indeed is! build this pc in 2017 and it still does hold up!

[@Eleganttf2]

Don't worry your 1080 is still faster than the junk RTX 3050 8GB

[@thomaswest2583]

The gtx 1080 is still pretty strong gpu. It still pretty strong. It's gonna be good at 1080p high for at least a couple more years

[@vucadao]

@@MjkL1337 cry BABY

[@Mr.Genesis]

Older Hardware comparisons are what all of us need.. I don't need to know how good a $3000 setup is.. i want to know how good my PC from 2016 is compared to a PC today That's what matters to me and many many others..

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah they’re among some of my favourite videos to make too :)

[@Vengir]

A perfect demonstration of why "I have an i7" doesn't tell much about your actual specs.

[@Mr.Genesis]

THANK YOUUUUU!!!!! I was gonna make this comment but you made it for me "I have an i7" means literally nothing

[@TheAtomoh]

When i tell people i have a Ryzen 7 they ask: "what is that?"

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

People are still using "i7" as a selling point when trying to move absolutely ancient Nehalem and Westmere processors at places like eBay and Amazon Marketplace.

[@rj7250a]

​@@dycedargselderbrother5353this was even worse for laptops. You would see a "i7" in the name, and then it was a dual core CPU, basically a i3 with better iGPU and slightly higher clock speed for $400 extra.

[@HearsingAround]

​@@dycedargselderbrother5353if you compare it to the i3 systems of that time, if you know you're buying and old system and they advertise what gen i see no problem tho. i mean if it still works it still can be used 1 gen i7 compaired to the q2q's was mindblowing

[@QuiteLunacy]

I'm honestly shocked at how well the 7700k did. I was not expecting 60+fps in every title but Starfield, which is one of the worst CPU optimized titles I can think of. Would've loved to see how it fared against the dreaded Dragons Dogma II!

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Haha yeah I don’t own any components that can offer smooth frame rates in that game

[@ilovelimpfries]

​@RandomGaminginHD best part of being a broke youtuber. Everything that you own is pretty much what we have, which makes the result more relevant than the big guys.

[@burrfoottopknot]

It (the 7700K) would be a reall good choice if you only play at 1080p and dont expect above high settings and want above 60fps budget wise, much cheaper over all system cost and the power draw was only about %15-20 more at times (under 55 watts) which is very respectable

[@Ignisan_66]

Dragon's Smegma

[@builder396]

@@burrfoottopknot I dont know why people say specific CPUs are good for specific resolutions. There is no correlation between the two because rendering more pixels is more GPU work, but for the CPU the workload per frame does not really change, it still sends the same data of what to render to the GPU. Even on graphics quality settings only half of them at most have a serious effect on CPU load, and even that is mostly down to the CPU shuffling more data to the GPU like higher resolution texture files, which usually isnt a groundbreaking difference either.

[@duffy_115]

It’s insane how far we’ve come. 10 years ago I’d say never touch i3 for gaming and now it’s industry norm!😊

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah they’re great value for money :)

[@sidrfen]

intel simply renamed i7 to i3 ☝😲

[@kidmorbid9112]

But 12 years ago a i3 2100 (or 2120) was also good enough for gaming and a budget tip. Most of the games at this time aren't optimized for more than 2 CPU cores.

[@RolanTheBrave]

I've had an i3 12100F for nearly 2 years and am very happy with it

[@ryanolsen294]

@@kidmorbid9112 true, apart from fry cry 1 lol

[@THU31]

Please make sure you include the CPU clock in the RTSS overlay in all your benchmarks. Useful information. 😀

[@Kim-fm2vo]

For Fallout 4, there's a mod that properly uncaps FPS to avoid breaking physics. It's called "High FPS Physics Fix"

[@Vengir]

Didn't it break with the recent patch?

[@onehourboy]

i got a gaming pc with a i7 7700k for free because it wouldn't boot it was because of a bad gpu so i spent 50$ on a gtx 1060 6gig and i love it

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Amazing deal!

[@betag24cn]

who doesnt love free pc parts

[@ArtisChronicles]

Yo that's a nice deal there

[@shammendraeshwar433]

Iam really happy i chose i3 12100f for my first ever pc build.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Great choice!

[@ironbru1986]

I used to have one, great CPU, highly recommended, however don't pair it with anything more powerful than a 3060 Ti 8 GB / 4060 Ti 16 GB, the bottleneck is quite extreme with anything higher than that. I'm saying this from experience.

[@fanlessfurmark]

i have i3 12100f with 3060 8GB dual, it's fine, tbh

[@fee.d]

@@ironbru1986 Go for a 3060 max anything higher will bottleneck i got a 12100f with a 4060 and there's always a 10-15% bottleneck depending on which game, There's no bottleneck in gpu intensive games tho

[@kadavercade3597]

Same here! Prebuilt sellers have been hounding me to get a Ryzen 3600, glad I didn't picked it up.

[@XxPureKhaosxX]

Something to note though is i3 is 20-30% more power efficient and that’s without undervolting.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Very true

[@tuzzogetti]

why undervolting? the amount of energy you save by undervolting the CPU is minimal.

[@XxPureKhaosxX]

@@tuzzogetti it would just be additional power savings. If you think about it 15 W for 4 hours every 3 days is about 7-8 kWh a year saved. Granted it’s not much since these are generally low power chips. It’s definitely something to think about though if you have certain goals in mind.

[@abhimaanmayadam5713]

@@tuzzogetti you also benefit from lower temps as well when you undervolt.

[@bills6093]

We can overclock the 7700K though, and it is already keeping up pretty well.

[@MojoWrangler]

I always enjoy your garden shots.

[@lokithor9905]

I scored a 6700k/mobo combo for free. Previous owner thought it was broken.

[@Jepson07]

❤👍

[@MjkL1337]

i wish i was this lucky

[@ArtisChronicles]

That's better than the garbage PC I got a couple of years ago. As in someone just dumped it in the dumpster. That had some i7 900 series chip which I swapped out for a Xeon x5650. It's now in a family member's possession for whatever they're using it for.

[@thesaviorwolf8601]

My brother is still running a 1080 and i7 6700k. Still good enough to play games. He also has 13790k and 4070ti build but only for games he can't play on his old beast.

[@monolofiminimal]

Yeah I'm like that as well, I just got a 7950x3d+4070S but I'm still using my i7-4790K+GTX1070FE primarily. I only switch to the other when I can't play it on there.

[@theodentherenewed4785]

I don't see what the point of using old PCs is. The newer hardware lets you play old titles in 4k, there's always a benefit of using the new build, even if it's just the shorter loading times.

[@thesaviorwolf8601]

@@theodentherenewed4785 he has emulators on it that hard to set up+ he doesn’t like windows 11

[@RudolfSikorsky]

Nostalgy? I am spending significantly more timebehind my C2D E8400/GTX 970 Win XP machine and FX6300/RX 580 Win 7 (both heavily overclocked of course) than behind my main rig (5800x3d/RTX 3080 12GB).

[@RudolfSikorsky]

BTW, playing older titles at 4k usually isn't good idea, even if they have such high resolution option. UI usually doesn't scale and is unusable.

[@StancedVacuum]

just repurposed my z77+970+3570k+16GB @ 1600mhz platform for my inlaws as a productivity machine. Gonna boot it up soon and take a step back in time! Love vids like these. 2013 was right around the time I built my first rig so it warms me heart to see these benches. Cheers

[@MrSamadolfo]

😒👍 Keep It Old School

[@ayuchanayuko]

Run the ram at least at 1866CL10/CL11. Push to the next speed if possible. It should massively increase minimum fps and processing speed. My 2500k has a massive boost going to 1866CL10

[@ArtisChronicles]

​@@ayuchanayuko I might have to do that for a friend myself... He has a 4670k right now. Pretty sure it's a set of Ripjaws X 1600MHz memory in his board too.

[@StancedVacuum]

saw up to 2133mhz for ddr3 kits online. May do that to max out the platform lol

[@ayuchanayuko]

@@StancedVacuum if you have any decent ram, especially the OCer kind (Team Xtreem, GSkill), just use your board settings to manually turn up your Ram frequency up. Just make sure to compensate with timings. You're after the general frequency increase but maintaining your latency. There are frequency-CL tables out there. In general, 1333CL7=1600cl9=1866CL10/11. Most Ram modules are just like this. I ran mine in XMP mode to get 1600CL9-9-9-27 with tighter subtimings, then manually went to 1866CL10-10-10-33. Usually ram freq can go up but latency gets longer. End effect latency is still the same, but you get faster bandwidth (which means faster data loading, higher minimum FPS, faster minimum speed overall) Then if you're feeling adventurous, decrease your CL numbers by 1. E.g. From CL11-11-11-33 to CL10-10-10-33. If unstable, make sure you are running at 1.5V. Increase slightly to 1.52 and max out at 1.6V. AFAIK the higher voltage makes the ram generate more heat and can perform better, but it takes a toll on your IMC which can result in instability so balance it out. Basically tradeoff of ram instability to IMC instability.

[@codegame027]

I had a 6700k. I recently retired it into a dedicated baremetal linux box to do homelab stuff with.

[@BREEZYM6015]

I have no idea what you just said. 😂

[@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams]

​@BREEZYM6015 I'm going to try to guess what he means without searching anything up. He transferred it into an open/caseless build that he runs Linux with, to cook meth in his homelab

[@jponz85]

Had the same. 6700k paired with a gtx 1080ti. Was great for 1080p gaming.

[@Dregomz02]

I still have that i7 7700k and not going to replace it any time soon. New games are not worth the upgrade price and with my saved money i spent it on my dental health.

[@1pcfred]

I still have a i5-4670 and I'm not going to replace it any time soon. Someday though. Maybe 4 of 5 years from now? I'll see what prices are like then.

[@joeykeilholz925]

Damn. Has to be America.

[@SimonBannow]

[@obtains]

I still have a i7-3770 and i7-4770k both still do well surprisingly with how old they are now. The i7-4770k is in a computer with a 980 ti never selling it was my first proper gaming pc.

[@1pcfred]

@@obtains I've never sold any PC I've ever owned. I still have my 386. It's in tough shape today. But the bits and pieces are still around. I'm just not one for selling things.

[@Zerbey]

Just upgraded from the venerable i7-7700K, even in 2024 it's still very capable. Served me well for 6 years.

[@userwastaken3069]

203 views in 2 minutes, bro is thriving

[@rileybrown4066]

Been rocking my 7700k since release and have no motivation to upgrade it since I do not play anything too intense

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Good to hear!

[@YuasBirds]

Still have a 7700k! I do plan on getting an R7 7800x3D later this year though, slowly getting the parts together. 7700k is still perfectly fine for gaming (for me at least, don't play many AAA games), but the ram/storage/CPU limitations are preventing me from doing what I want with image processing.

[@MrSamadolfo]

microcenter has the 7800x3d in a bundle =)

[@m8x425]

sht, later this year the Ryzen 9000 series processors will be out. 9000x3d processors early next year

[@epeksergastis]

Doubt you need the 3d chip. Would honestly go with the 7900 with the stock cooler.

[@straybricks]

I just picked up a 7700k on a Maximus IX Hero board for $80 and it’s perfect for my needs. I’ll probably pick up an 12th or 13th gen i5 bundle at Micro Center when I can raise the funds.

[@getyerspn]

I changed from an i7 7700k overclocked to 5ghz all core to a r7 5700x with just power limit raised to 120w ( both using my ageing gtx1080 and the same 32gb of ddr4 3600 ) and the performance uplift was nothing short of amazing .

[@samcadwallader2899]

My takeaway from this is that people who still have their i7-7700K on a decent z170 still don't need to upgrade their CPU for gaming. Mine overclocked to a solid 4.6ghz without messing with voltages no problem at all.

[@Raiden-pi3gt]

14 seconds and 2 views, bro is thriving

[@mastracu66207]

My brother is looking into upgrading his old i5 7500 RX 570 PC, he was convinced he only needed a used 7700K for a 2080ti (he's on a tight budget) and wouldn't budge when I asked him to look into upgrading to AM4 or at least upgrade his Intel platform, but this video finally made him change his mind. Thank you.

[@MrSamadolfo]

the 2080ti is a pretty fast card, u need a modern board

[@mastracu66207]

@@MrSamadolfo I agree, he settled for a R5 5600

[@shadowkyun]

When the 7000 series intel cpus came out and amd ryzen cpus came out I ended up deciding on more cores (r5 1600) as I thought that cpus with more cores was going to be the path forward. Now I'm happy with my 5800x3d.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Good choice to be honest. Then and now!

[@ABaumstumpf]

Back then the Ryzen were not good, specially compared to coffee-lake. But thankfully AMD was then forced to keep supporting AM4 despite trying to cancel it twice - and gave us some really good CPUs after that.

[@muratbasc8302]

What a crazy investment that was! Hats off

[@JohnDoe_333]

@@ABaumstumpf First Ryzen was really good, if you factor in price to performance. Most people just don't buy the fastest chip, gaming performance was comparable in the same price class.

[@ABaumstumpf]

@@JohnDoe_333 They were ok for some production workloads, but for games they were... yeah no. Zen1 released after Intels 7th gen, but was competing with 4th gen, in many games it was just barely on tie with the 2600K. But it was a massive step up in productivity and worlds apart from bullcrapper. With Zen2 AMD then finally filled the gap in terms of gaming performance - that was mid 2019, so 2 years later.

[@raymondhachmishvili2483]

12th gen intel CPUs is the best release from intel in decade. great efficiency and performance. unlike 13th,14th gen.

[@HD_Heresy]

Man for some reason the 7700K is the only CPU I ever got REALLY excited for and I can't explain why, I think something about the super high clock speeds and quad core being still kind of rare at the time just got me so hyped for it and I still feel that love :)

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 i feel the same for my Devils Canyon 4790K 🔥😈🔥 i recently refurbished it, i gave her a Red Devil 5700 XT to play with her🔥😈😈🔥

[@ArtisChronicles]

Haswell is the one that has a special place with me for some unknown reason.

[@HD_Heresy]

@@MrSamadolfo My friend had a 4790K and they loved it! Also the name is badass, "Devils Canyon" like it's impossible to be cooler 😂😂

[@MrSamadolfo]

@@HD_Heresy 😎👍 FACTS! 🔥😈🔥

[@ussonsoupape6500]

my 7700k still work well with rpcs3 on mint. Absolute garbage when i received it with really high temp. It was the first time with me trying to uncap a cpu. Since i put metal liquid behind the ihs it s running like good old wine at 5ghz. Great video!

[@philtkaswahl2124]

I still die a little inside seeing local system integrators selling "i7 gaming PCs!" at premium or near premium prices to unsuspecting buyers.

[@BenAkenobi]

The upgrade path for 7700 exists, it's called "coffee mod" where you take an 8th or 9th Gen i5 or i7 or Xeon or ES Qxxx chip, isolate some contacts, flash the BIOS and it works, not for every board but many do it fine

[@TheChiro2000]

Didn't know that, you can get 6 core in there?

[@BenAkenobi]

@TheChiro2000 yeah, up to 8-core as well (people ran i9 9900 on z170 boards), but the bios should be patched and flashed first, it's individual for every chip, it adds so-called CPU microcodes for 8th or 9th gen into the bios. Also some work required to cover several pins on the actual replacement CPU and to short a couple of contacts as well. Sounds like unnecessary hassle and indeed it is, except for upping from dualcore i3 or pentium to 4-core i3 8100, 8300 or 9100f SRF7W, these work without messing with contacts, just bios flash needed.

[@draakmanz]

i streamed pubg on 7700k 1080ti on 120fps obs settings. pubg ran at 100+ fps. this system held up for 7 years and now my stepson is using it and it's still keeping up :)

[@lord5619]

Just a hint for future videos, for us spec hungry people. Could you include frequency of each CPU in the Afretburner overlay?

[@ANN1H1LATE89]

Another awesome vid Steve. Love these comparison videos 👍🏻👍🏻

[@NiCO-jo2vh]

My very first PC that I bought with my own money had a i7 7700. It was pretty good at the time and is probably still usable today. That also makes me miss my GTX 1070 from back then.

[@iplyrunescape305]

I recently upgraded my 2016 computer from i5-6500 to i7-7700K, like two years ago. Now youre telling me this? Haha. Im keeping it.

[@ArtisChronicles]

I'm gonna have to help one of my brother's with an upgrade from his Ryzen 7 1700. I did go through the trouble of upgrading his motherboard bios not too long ago. So at least that should be a simple drop in upgrade now.

[@TheHoldenmcgroin]

Literally on upgraded from my i7-7700K in November. Its still in use in my home, its now the base CPU for a very OP Plex server. lol.

[@philipcooper8297]

For 60fps gaming the i7 7700K is still enough in the majority of the latest games.

[@ghosttheoremproductions5469]

I was very impressed with the 10100f/10105. Almost bang-on with the 7700k. It's also available for dirt cheap. Probably one of the best value new cpus for 1080p gaming. Regularly available for $70 usd brand new or $50 usd used on Ebay. Cheaper motherboards too.

[@claudiovrd]

I would say the i7 did very well. Let's remember that this i7 is basically a 2015 refresh, yielding very solid performance for almost 10 years

[@dissolver5388]

im still using my i7700k,no problem in playing games.

[@Jomenaa]

Really looking forward to those overclock results! If you bought one of these babies you HAD to try if it reached 5GHz as it was the first consumer CPU to do so :P I only ever had 6700K and it clocked to 4,7GHz with safe voltages for daily use. Sidegraded it to R5 3600 some years back and still going strong ;)

[@DanglyDongle]

Running both at factory is great, but my old 7700k had a ton of OC headroom. Out of the box perfection was most of what intel was stuck on for a few generations. Would love to see a follow up with some oc tweaking. Finally upgraded to a 13700k, and my old 7700k I keep in a backup/guest pc

[@SKHYJINX]

i7 7700K supports Win7 natively, (Win7-USB 3 drivers etc) I know people still on the less secure platform because they hate W10/W11 so much..

[@1pcfred]

W10/W11 is Windows. So people running Win7 have no excuse.

[@SKHYJINX]

@@1pcfred yeah I know, its the fearmongering over telemetry. Personally I'm on Win10 because Win11 still gets weird issues time to time whenever I test it on another SSD so I keep sticking with W10.

[@ezequielmartinez5927]

I had a 7700k running at 5.1 ghz and was able to keep up with a 2080 at 1440p but at 1080p just couldn’t keep up as good as my 12600kf

[@MajorstiQ]

good video , but you forgot the CPU Temps

[@richardfarmer6570]

This is a great comparison, the last of Intels i7 4/8 flagship against what would be considered a very budget CPU. $122 vs $339 2017 price. Amazing how much has changed.

[@Redmage913]

Fascinating to know how far the quad-core i7 has fallen. I’m keeping my i7-2600 of course, but I was a bit surprised! Only 2:30 in, but I’m hoping you did power comparisons - that might be more important at this point, in terms of Europeans needing efficiency over cost.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 unfortunately most content creators dont show you the power consumption nor do they have a Watt Meter, kinda strange

[@WayStedYou]

the power draw is at the top, its about 10w more than the 12100f the entire time

[@ViperTr99]

Is the 7700k overclocked? Has it faster RAM? Both will lead up to 40% performance gains. Then it will still be faster then the 12100.

[@robertopazsoldan9641]

Mmm the 7700k have a very old memory controller cant support ddr4 3600 in the other side the i3 support ddr4 and ddr5 up to 5200mhz

[@techpriestsgaming6525]

I have the i7 7700 in my main PC and i5 4460 in the second PC, both are very much already poor mans PCs but hey, for what I need, even regarding the gaming in 1080p are still good and capable of gaming. First paired with 1660ti, the second with 1060 3GB.

[@VladislavVankov1]

I was looking forward to seeing the performance of the i7 7700k when overclocked in this video. I wondered if its gaming performance when overclocked would be on par with the i3 12100F. What do you think?

[@Joel-ew1zm]

Can't wait to experience the quad core goodness for myself. Just ordered a Q6600 for $0.99 on ebay today to slap in a 2007 Dell "Family PC" build I am doing for playing DX9 and DX10 stuff. PC itself was of course free from work.

[@MrSamadolfo]

😒👍 LGA 775 FTW 🐢

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 you might have to update the bios

[@ironbru1986]

I know you mentioned it in the video about both CPU's holding the 4070 Super back, but as someone who briefly used a 12100 with a 4070 Super while waiting for my 12600 to arrive, I can give you some idea about how much it was holding it back. I tested it in Borderlands 2 (yes I know it's an old game, it's what I was playing with a friend at the time) with the frame rate limit removed (I usually play with a 60 FPS cap, I removed it to get a general Idea about how much headroom much system has overall) and was getting about 180 FPS with the 12100, with the 12600 I'm getting about 700 FPS. So yeah, the 4070 Super is just being slightly (massively) held back, LOL!

[@MrSamadolfo]

I keep a cap of 60, I play most of my games using the Living Room TV, with a 60 fps cap the Watt Meter is showing 350 watts, and just for fun I tested unlimited fps and the Watt Meter jumped to 500 watts 🔥

[@snotspat]

The Ryzen 4100 and 4300G are quad core CPUs that I haven't seen tested much. Here in Denmark they retail for about 2/3rds the price of the i3-12100, so perhaps that's a comparison you could make some day?

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 yes its kinda strange but the smaller ryzen chips nobody covers, theres a few videos on the 4500 6/12 but not many

[@Geekzmo]

the i7 7700K is the GTX 1080 Ti of CPUs!

[@betag24cn]

alot of people would say that about xeons and second gen i7

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 actually the 8700K Coffeelake is the goto rite now, since its 6/12 and it supports Windows 11 and it trades blows with the Ryzen 3600

[@ArtisChronicles]

​@@betag24cn Xeons for sure. That x5650 has enough cores to age pretty well, especially since they can be overclocked.

[@ArtisChronicles]

​@@MrSamadolfo If I can find a decent price for a 9700 I'd get my brother that since it's one of the higher chips his motherboard supports. I forget which 9000 series i5 he has.

[@Spentalei]

ehhh I strongly disagree. You could make a case for the 2600k, 7700k not so much. It pretty much got superseded really fast by the 8700k which is just much better. What made the 1080Ti so special was its modest price, very high performance uplift over prev gen and the fact it aged gracefully. None really apply to the 7700k.

[@tarno_bejo_]

Yeah, where im from the 7700k is still more expensive than 12100f. The only reason to buy 7700k is powering my win 7 win its native driver (some mobo makers offer the drivers i think). Otherwise, i have to roll back to gen 6.

[@TridonsEve]

I recently sidegraded from R3 3300X (4 cores 8 threads) to R5 3500 (6 cores 6 threads) for testing purposes and I was surprised by how much the reduction in number of threads hampers the machine when mutlitasking. All in all the CPUs should be able to plow through roughly the same amount of work, but the 3300X was a noticable smoother experience on the whole. I was sure I wouldn't be able to distinguish the difference between them beforehand, but I was wrong. A good 4/8 CPU is certainly usable in many scenarios today, but 6/6 are no longer as usable on Windows 11. I'm not updated on how many models with 6/6 have been made the last years, but hopefully they are few and far between. Just an interesting obsevation since you are testing how well 4/8 is working now.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

The 3300x is awesome. I had the 3100 for a while and it was very surprising too

[@yasu_red]

The desktop Coffee Lake i5s were all 6/6, and to nobody's surprise something like an i5 9600K holds up much worse today than a 3300X or 3600.

[@1pcfred]

My 4 thread CPU is running 223 threads right now. Smooth as silk. But I don't do Windows.

[@TridonsEve]

@@1pcfred Yeah, from the release of Windows 10 until today, Microsoft isn't winning any Nobel Prizes for resource use. Many other kinds of OS (especially the ones like Xubuntu/Lubuntu) should be very smooth with a 4 thread CPU.

[@1pcfred]

@@TridonsEve There's times when I could use more processing power. Like if I'm compiling code or encoding video. But even under extreme load condition my machine remains responsive and doesn't freeze up. I've seen Windows just pop up that wait cursor. I have a wait cursor. My file manager can make it show up but I don't know why. Because I still don't have to wait for it to do anything. I think it's a bug in the program. Like it's not getting close signals from some programs. Beats me.

[@deadpain2483]

Few things i wanted to learn since i am too broke to by any kind of pc: What happens when you match everything equally? Example limiting the 12000 series to match the 7700 series Lets just say 7k series has 3.2 ghz with tdp limit to 60 with 2400 mhz ram so you set it exactly the same in 12k i3 series to see the performance.

[@deadpain2483]

I forgot to mention How's the performance difference in a high end card that you have vs something as powerful as gtx1660 or similiar

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 the i3 is still going to be a little bit faster

[@mapesdhs597]

Steve, let me know if you'd like to borrow an MSI GTX 580 3GB Lightning Extreme to test out! I can post one down (I'm in Edinburgh). Re your previous video about the GTX 560, would be interesting to see just how far Fermi 2.0 can really go these days, especially when VRAM isn't quite so limited.

[@justmatt2655]

Question: do you spend more money on components and pre builds than you earn from this channel?

[@dano5238]

Great video. Just shows how the modern i3 is a fantastic budget gaming cpu.

[@onion69420]

Some people in my areas are still trying to sell a 7700k for the price of a 10400

[@MaxVelzgg]

Helldivers 2 its also pretty cpu intensive too, you should add it to the benchmarks

[@theodentherenewed4785]

They're both 4 cores/8 threads, 12 MB vs 8MB of cache memory, the boost clock is 4.3 GHz vs 4.5 GHz. And yet, the model 5 years younger wins quite substantially. It's impressive that Intel made that progress. Great idea for the video, I expected much closer results.

[@FloppyJesuss]

I’m still rocking a Xeon 5580 from the Lga 1366 socket

[@ZERARCHIVE2023]

You're better with an I3 relatively recent than high end, older parts. That's crazy to me

[@MrSamadolfo]

Older Parts have a Nostalgia Tax

[@ArtisChronicles]

​​@@MrSamadolfo At least until they get old enough. Them x99 xeons looking real nice right now. Really hope the 4 core i7s eventually get close to the same pricing even though I already paid that tax... In terms of USD I paid about $54 for a 6700k.

[@norbertorlik354]

Love your videos, it makes me smile when i get notification :) you can try to delid 7700k to get past 5GHz without cooking it.

[@XYXYOUTUBE]

will you ever use space engine to benchmark test? its very demanding on gpus specially with LOD amped up.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

I’ll have to check it out :)

[@XYXYOUTUBE]

@@RandomGaminginHD yeah the specs on the page are def outdated it easily eats 12gb of vram after like 1 hour on ultra lol

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 never heard of it, i just checked, its available on Steam and GOG, i will wishlist them and wait for a sale

[@XYXYOUTUBE]

@@MrSamadolfo its a fantastic "Game" to benchmark with

[@MrSamadolfo]

@@XYXKZbin 🙂 ok thanks, i will check it out

[@itsryeko]

Hi, i love your videos. Can you test an i5 11400f in 2024 because i was thinking of upgrading to an i5 11400f with rx 6600 from my i3 10100f and gtx 1050 ti. Also can you help me decide whether i should upgrade to an i5 11th gen or just build a new system with r5 7500f and ddr5??

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 just depends exactly what you have rite now in the rest of the system? is it a nice ATX Z490 overclocking motherboard? some nice ddr4 3200 32gb of ram? if not and instead u got some stripped down dell hp prebuilt stuff then I would forget about the system and step up to something modern but get yourself something nice: nice chip, nice board, nice ram, nice power supply

[@itsryeko]

@@MrSamadolfo I have a gigabyte h510m mobo and 16gb ddr4 2666, anyways thank you for your answer. I guess i would be upgrading to am5 with r5 7500f then. Thanks friend!! :D

[@MrSamadolfo]

@@itsryeko Your Welcome and have a good week =)

[@whodisab9725]

i had this cpu paired with an asrock z270 k6 and 16gb of corsair red led 3200 c16 , since my country's prices are so bad i was able to sell them when 12th gen went into the market and with only the money i got from the sale i was able to buy myself a 12400F + Gskill 16GB DDR4 RGB + B660 Plus D4 motherboard. Basically a free upgrade.

[@m8x425]

I had a 7700k once. It was a fun little CPU to overclock and delid. it hit 5.2GHz with a bit of a voltage bump and 5.1GHz was the sweet spot. You'd be amazed at how small Intel's 4-core 14nm dies are.

[@AlfonsoASecas]

I have an i7 4790K and I feel like I don't need to change it yet until Panther Lake comes out..

[@MrSamadolfo]

😒👍 Devils Canyon FTW 🔥😈🔥

[@mynickisalreadytaken]

After i recently upgraded from my i7 8700 to R7600 and also modern GPU, i often feel like a traitor, when watching now :( I saw your Videos on an (7300HQ Laptop, meh.) FX8320E, i5 4690K, i7 8700 and now R5 7600. What a Ride. Also on GTX 1050m, R9 280X, GTX 550 (GPU Crisis Times, R9 broke down.), RX 6600(Also Crisis Times, but fantastic GPU) and now RX6800. If you would have made Videos when YT started in 2005, i would have seen it on my FX 5200, then on my GeForce 8400GS and then on my GeForce 8800GTS (Smol 320MB Version). All on my Core2Duo idonotknowanymore. Was in a Prebuilt i bought in 2006? Man even back then it was a damn scam :D What a shitty PC that was. This was my first and only time i bought a prebuilt and i upgraded the shit out of it and changed cases and modded them. Great times. But then i had a few Years without a Gaming PC. Well. Why did i write all that now? I do not know. Just have a nice week if you read until here. And have fun with Hardware and Data.

[@MrSamadolfo]

😏 interesting, i'm refurbing all my old pc's this year, right now i'm working on my Core2Quad Build

[@sponsje]

Recently replaced my cpu/mobo/ram with more modern equivalents. My i7 7700k did a fine job, but certain games I play (modded minecraft, mount & blade, crusader kings, stellaris, hell even dragon's dogma 2 and elden ring for some reason) really made my cpu's age apparent. I have a 7800x3d now and I am extremely satisfied.

[@ricokaden6562]

That’s a nice comparison :) 7700K overclock also pretty nicely, I guess, it would be quite closed then ;)

[@frale_2392]

The 7700K was my first CPU, it came in a prebuilt with a 1060 and a noctua cooler. That system lasted for 6 years, the only thing I have left is the cooler that I was able to put in a SFF case

[@nathanjdias]

I just built a PC for my office with an i3 14100 and I am taken aback by the performance improvements that Intel has managed to make on a budget oriented Quad Core CPU. Simply blows my Intel i7 8th Gen laptop out of the water.

[@latebloomer2]

IMHO U series laptop cpu is oriented for battery efficiency than performance.

[@Ale-nv2bo]

Isn't the laptop 8th gen i7 just a tuned down 6th gen I7? I remember reading that somewhere but I'm not entirely sure.

[@evilMANGO-ec7mx]

It’s crazy how smooth is the rendering with i7 7700K! My temporary i5 6600K + 4070 Super build has stuttering problems in any modern game

[@hrayz]

A friend was doing a very limited budget upgrade a few years back. (Zen2 was out and Zen3 was just hitting.) Upgrading from a fx-8350 (Bulldozer 8-thread) Got him on the AM4 platform with "upgradability" as the theme. Picked to least expensive starting point to get the most out of the limited budget. Ryzen 3 3100 (4 core, 8 thread) -> benchmarks showed it at 98%-102% of the old i7-7700k Amazing little chip at a low price. ps, (He upgraded to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D when he could save up!) pps, (Same with the video card. Got a Radeon RX 6500XT - bargain basement card - then upgraded to the Radeon RX 6750XT when new budget allowed.) ppps, (I bought the old CPU and GPU from him to help him with the upgrade budget.)

[@statonotto]

I still have mine at home OC to 4.8GHz because that is where I found it to be the most stable (quick and dirty) overclock I could hit. I think I maxed out ram speeds close to 3833MHz (not sure on the exact speed) but I keep them around 3600MHz for stability as well. Works well with the 1080ti I have in the system. Overall, this setup can still play every game that is available with some lowering of settings.

[@muratbasc8302]

My 2020 i3 10100f was giving around the same performance as i7 7700. Overclocked 7700k might have higher performance but it is insane that they were just 3 generations seperated

[@coreyisabigpushover]

That's because the architecture was still the same between 10th gen and 7th gen. Intel didn't make any meaningful IPC gains until 12th gen and now they're doing the same thing again with 13th and 14th gen being the same architecture as 12th.

[@muratbasc8302]

@@coreyisabigpushover thanks there is AMD...

[@cosminmilitaru9920]

@@muratbasc8302 yep, they got us rid of 4-core maximum on the consumer market, that was the norm for 10 years since Core 2 Quad. they made intel name the i7 appropriately as an i3.

[@Zeveulesaussure]

50W in gaming for a 7700K is extremely surprising ! Do you know what settings did you use in your BIOS ? It seems crazy low.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 he probably has it set on default locked intel settings, similar settings you would see on a HP or Dell because 50 watts usually lets me know that your running a Prebuilt Motherboard

[@Zeveulesaussure]

@@MrSamadolfo You can see the Mobo in the end of this video and in the previous video about the two prebuilts, and it's definitely not something from Dell or HP. It's probably just running very low on frequency!

[@MrSamadolfo]

@@Zeveulesaussure 🤔 oh see

[@kadavercade3597]

Oh man, glad I got an i3 12100f. Already good on most use cases.

[@BREEZYM6015]

I have an i7 8700k paired with a GTX 1060 6GB. I don't play very demanding games and the results I get are good enough for me. I'll eventually upgrade the GPU to something newer.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 Coffeelake is kinda like the borderline between old and modern, 8700K trades blows with a 3600 and the 3600 is being sold still as new at most retail stores for 80 bucks 🐢 , coffee supports Win 11

[@mahditaherifard9981]

Thank you very much for creating this video👍👍👍 Science experiment idea: Overclock the i7 7700k to match the i3 and rerun the tests, to see how much IPC improvement Intel has made over the years.😅 (their cache sizes might be different though...)

[@ChillBuilds]

I like how you just throw your stuff in the dirt and rocks! 👍

[@WTBMrGrey]

Maybe do a similar video with the R3 3100/3300x 👍

[@kennethpereyda5707]

I use a 12400 with a 4070 Ti runs fine , just under volt the Ti from .950 volts to .900 with the same stock clock, runs smooth

[@Ukyo82]

7700k is great overclocker you can easy OC it to 5.0 Ghz then results will become 1:1 but will need pretty high end cooler to keep it cool when OC on 5 ghz, is not worth buy in general they sell it expensive but if already go such CPU still can go

[@gurshair]

Good to see how far we have come since 14nm+. Excited to see what the 15th gen will bring with Xe graphics

[@elmSTREETnasty]

Great video! I'd like to see this with a 10400 vs 7700K.

[@angeryanimal398]

Can you test the 7700k with an overclock now?

[@toasty-toast]

I love this video since my kids have a 2012 dual core laptop and it's incredibly slow. I am trying to build a cheap used PC for them due to budget.

[@grimmpickins2559]

I enjoy these sorts of comparative benchmarks. As I've mentioned elsewhere, my modern platform computer is my secondary system as I bottom-feed the parts to complete it - so my main system remains a 10600k based PC. I'm really just short a decent CPU on my LGA1700 board, which I've been torturing with a G7400 for funsies (I found DDR5 ram locally, cheap for what it was - so it has 64 GB of 6000mhz that I can't even touch, LOL). I also sourced a i9 stock cooler for it, for free, from the guy who had the RAM (he downgraded, because the whole 12th gen i9 thing was overkill for the aRPGs he played, LOL. It's even worse for a cRPG guy like me!). I just haven't been able to make myself spend the bucks to buy a CPU that really, truly trumps the i5 in my older system - even when I know I have more RAM sitting in the little quiet side gaming PC. I really want to grab something 14th gen, since I can with the motherboard (oddly, a business class Q670 board that I love the green of, and - honestly - it's a pretty damn good, and stable, board). I even have the cooler, and I'm still like, "Meh, this thing is driving the 6750 just fine, still"). That 10th - 14th gen Intel situation is a bit weird to me, because I'm not sure what or when the right upgrade is coming. $200+ seems steep, especially when 10th gen Intel is still sitting at an OK point. I actually consider that generation, in retrospect, as being a point of solid stagnation for Intel - they are still performing, the 11th gen was lackluster, the 12th/13th/14th is cool and all - but the prices, the damned prices... My processor in my main system is still getting nearly a $100 in some scenarios - I got mine as part of a combo... I just want to sell this PC and upgrade, but......... Yeah. It works.

[@MyNameIsBucket]

Still waiting for the battle of the last single-core chips.

[@stefanwalsh8034]

You should test the old HD 7990 and see how it holds up today.

[@MrSamadolfo]

that card has drivers for it over on amernimezone 😒👍

[@bluej511]

Great video. Just noticed your rdr2, one is vulkan one is dx12. Not sure if it makes any difference. I recently redownloaded it to test my 5gbps internet, and game still freezes for me randomly in vulkan, have yet to try dx12.

[@MrSamadolfo]

🙂 try old school DX 11

[@vgRater]

Wow this looks exactly as my old mobo+ cpu combo with the SAME cooler master cpu cooler, it was a beast. I upgraded last month finally to a i5 12th gen for better stability in VR. Still holds up great for modern games tho, I even bought it used from a office PC. Lasted me 4 years on that beast

[@_oriTech_]

ive picked a i7 7700k board and ram kombo for 80 bucks, slapped an rx 6700 xt and use it as a little "console" pc in the living room and it feels not that i use that old hardware... everything is snappy and all games run smooth. i guess for that price its a rly good cheap budget kombo, the rx 6700 xt ive got for 200 bucks, psu, case, ssd and a cooler ive allready had. so 280 bucks is insane value.