Ireland and Northern Ireland Compared

[@iammrbeat]

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[@RobertK1993]

Mr. Beat One has sectarianism the other has secularism.

[@RobertK1993]

It’s all Englishman fault one way or another nothing pleasurable then blaming the Englishman.

[@RobertK1993]

Leon Raleigh Hawkins 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇪🇺🇪🇺

[@Otaku-gf7iq]

pls. do manila vs jakarta

[@kevinbourke1847]

Yes

[@colmmahon4663]

The civil war wasn't between nationalists and unionists. It was between factions of the nationalist movement that were pro and anti treaty.

[@Valencetheshireman927]

Brexit is a civil war of words

[@Biscuit_Base]

He states that in the video about 30 seconds after mentioning nationalists and unionists.

[@colmmahon4663]

@@Biscuit_Base 9:28 be describes it as a war between those who wanted to remain in the UK and those who wanted to leave which wasn't the case.

[@Biscuit_Base]

@@colmmahon4663 good spot. Completely miss heard the description of the treaty and anti treaty I.R.As

[@Kitiwake]

@@LeMerchnah... More like a family disagreement.

[@thedarksword3495]

also in Ireland accents change every 30 miles

[@alexandrub8786]

That doesn't happen also in UK?

[@kieranfitz]

More like every 5km.

[@beaucaspar3990]

Same in the UK 😃

[@iammrbeat]

There definitely is a wide range.

[@shredder9536]

Every 3 miles

[@donalobrien9422]

Fun fact, Irish spring soap is neither made or sold or even known in Ireland.

[@sb-cz7fk]

It was funny I took a bar with me and everyone was really confused by it

[@brucemarsico6]

But....Did the Irish want to suddenly wash with it?Like the ad claimed....'The Irish Never Quit.'Hmmm, quit bathing and using the soap, or,quit using the soap and continue bathing.....

[@ontheslide2339]

..or soap of any kind really...

[@irishboer7124]

Bit like English muffins- unknown in England til they were imported from America in the 90s.

[@angus7278]

Irish Spring is such a loaded mess of smelly chemicals it’s recommended that you chop it into pieces for your garden to keep raccoons and squirrels away!

[@JfkJames]

The pro treaty vs anti treaty civil war wasn’t against those who wanted to leave Britain and those who wanted to stay with it. Your misinterpreting. It was those who were for the treaty and those against the treaty within the Irish free state.

[@richielelas]

Yeh, I was gonna point this out. Really good video overall, a good introduction to the history of the island. I always like hearing Americans or Brits talk about Irish history, it's always either really impressive how much they know or hilarious how much they don't. I particularly liked how the narrator covered the "Ireland, aka The Republic..." point. Try not to be so hard on him for getting one thing wrong, and I wouldn't even say wrong exactly. Yes, the civil war was mainly fought between nationalists who thought the treaty was a step in the right direction or "foot in the door" and those who saw joining the commonwealth as an acceptance of "puppet state" status. But surely you don't believe the unionists just took some time off and treated the civil war as a spectator sport?

[@toomuch9762]

That’s exactly what is was. You’re a free stater I bet. Embarrassing past eh?

[@susankrueger3043]

?

[@JfkJames]

Richie Lelas I don’t mean to be hard on him at all. I just felt it needed to be pointed out as it kind of misleads viewers on the outside if they don’t know about Irish affairs

[@JfkJames]

too much Sorry sir, I most definitely am not. I recommend you study Irish history thoroughly if you are interested in this topic.

[@fx902]

You mistated the parties of the Irish Civil War as "those who wanted to stay with Britain and ...". In fact none of the parties of the civil war wanted to stay with Britain . The Free Staters thought it was the best deal they could get from Britain. They did not, however, want to stay with the UK. I am not Irish, but I know a lot of Irish history. Therefore my opinion is unbiased on this issue.

[@iammrbeat]

You are correct. I worded that wrong. It was just degrees of independence.

[@RobertK1993]

Liverpool 11 Well Ulster population many want unification and many tough against Britain in 1798 and 1803 rebellions in the United Irishmen.

[@RobertK1993]

Liverpool 11 Yes do you know Ulster Presbyterians the majority of Protestants in Ulster were treacherous to Britain not long before the Home Rule crisis 1886-1914 .

[@SiVlog1989]

@@RobertK1993 indeed, according to what I've found out, Ireland was on the brink of Civil War in 1914, but World War 1, temporarily, put those tensions on hold. Apparently, during the Easter Rising, Nationalists in that time went from being opponents with Unionists to working together when the rising leaders proclaimed independence. I don't claim to be an authority about the subject, but I have watched documentaries like the Enemy files, presented by former secretary of state for defence, Michael Portillo, where he looked at the communications on both sides building up to and during those days in April 1916. Irish KZbinr John D Ruddy has done all sorts of videos on Irish history, including the Easter Rising and War of Independence (a great channel, he uses some humour to add a lighter touch to what can be morbid issues)

[@strangekat2840]

@Liverpool 11 they might have told you that, but it wasn't the experience of people who lived there. My Catholic family speak of widespread harassment from the army, along with frequent murders. The British aren't innocent in the Troubles. The army weren't innocent.

[@gloin10]

Actually, forest cover in the Republic of Ireland(RoI) is close to 11%. The 1% figure may refer to native woodland species.

[@patrickball2493]

The farmers in lreland having the privilege to owning most land should be making greater efforts in planting native broadleaf species of trees .

[@gloin10]

@@patrickball2493 In an ideal world, yes they should. However, given the reality that those who own the most land tend to also own the most FERTILE land, they are not going to plant trees... From their point of view, it makes absolutely no sense at all...

[@Skuldug]

@@gloin10 what if they're given benefits by the government for maintaining woodlands

[@gloin10]

@@Skuldug That has been tried since before the foundation of the state. As a policy to promote the growing of native hardwoods, it has been a complete failure. On marginal land in Leitrim, you can get a complete rotation of Sitka Spruce in around 18-20 years. If you plant oak trees, your grandchildren might harvest them. More likely your great-grandchildren... As for maintaining woodlands? Most remaining native woodland is composed of tiny, scattered, clumps which are in very bad shape...

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

@@gloin10 oh yea that's the thing that really kills investing in hardwood trees like oak because you won't be alive to harvest them an Oak can take up to 150 years to fully grow so right now I am 22 years old say I plant an Oak tree right now if I am lucky I live another 73 years and even that's not even half way there to a fully grown Oak tree so yea really it's your great grandchildren who would be harvesting this tree you know in about 2,171 where not trying to be grim but we don't even fucking know if humans will even exist by then

[@Artur_M.]

Oh, that's an interesting topic. And totally not controversial at all. 😁

[@iammrbeat]

Um

[@Zuriki_]

We're fucked. This whole Brexit thing was built on lies and we elected the guy who spread all the lies... This is the beginning of the end for our country, but I'm not surprised anymore, now I know that 5O% of my people are ignorant and selfish, half of my people deserve to burn in hell for their intolerance, ignorance and stupid selfishness!!!

[@Valencetheshireman927]

Voting for brexit doesn’t make you “selfish” . There were lies on both sides eg George Osborne saying we’d need an emergency budget the second we voted for Brexit, that was a blatant lie and scare tactic. “This is the beginning of the end for our country” the U.K. isn’t so weak and reliant on the EU that it will collapse just by leaving it since we have left it and we’re still here. Yes, call 17 million people “ignorant” and “selfish” just for voting differently to you that will totally change their opinions. “Half of my people deserve to burn in hell for their intolerance” Seriously? How does voting to leave the EU make a person intolerant?

[@waxeater112]

@BemusedBarfly and a stuck up orange twat

[@ashinthehouse1710]

*OodleDoodle* I’m ashamed in you

[@DTL9164]

The Republic of Ireland is ACTUALLY further north!

[@seandoherty925]

Well Donegal in the Republic has the most Northerly point of the Island

[@jf723]

Good point but we are still referred to as Northern Ireland or the North. Donegal is friggin amazing place.

[@iammrbeat]

Haha nice catch!

[@jf723]

@Cliff Smith technically it's Ireland, just Ireland. I am Northern Irish and to be honest love the whole country despite fact want to stay part of the UK. Ireland is doing well in the world and let's be honest if we joined them we would 'f#@k it all up lol.

[@Heretic-.]

Cliff Smith technically not, as the declaration signed in 1937 turning Ireland into a republic claimed the whole of Ireland, not just 26 counties, so therefore, technically the word “Ireland” can be referred as a country

[@elliot7753]

2:19 - “Northern Ireland is more... north” - You’d be surprised but just west of NI is a small part of Republic of I. that stretches out further north.

[@melchristensen8282]

Shhh. We all know Donegal doesn't exist.

[@BigBirbler]

4-0

[@elliot7753]

@@BigBirbler ??

[@noodlyappendage6729]

It’s a pity the RoI doesn’t do more for Donegal.

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

@@noodlyappendage6729 I think you need to correct that statement the correct statement is I wish the ROI would do more for the country that's not a big city or the Dublin commuter belt

[@maryoshea2137]

The amount that is wrong in this acc hurts like

[@raymondkinsella2484]

I think it’s very accurate

[@joannebridgetsimpson6260]

Other than an error about the civil war it was pretty accurate.

[@kevinlynch9438]

Mary O'Shea Mary .... It's embarrassing how inaccurate this is!

[@joannebridgetsimpson6260]

@@kevinlynch9438 like what? Other than the civil war issue.

[@madmettlepants7454]

Explain pls

[@joanignasi91]

The comment section is going to be lovely in this one...

[@iammrbeat]

I hope it stays civil. 😬

[@RobertK1993]

Yes bigoted Irish Republicans and Ulster Loyalists are going to be let loose.

[@seandoherty925]

I've read them all thus far and they are fairly tame. Remarkable.

[@Valencetheshireman927]

There are more Irish nationalists then unionist because Ireland hasn’t a bigger population then N.I

[@ninjacat4929]

Yeah I know here we go it’s going to be a bumpy ride !

[@SomeIrishLad]

Where did you get the 1% figure for forest cover? That's way off. It's more like 11%, still very low but a lot higher than 1%.

[@adamender9092]

Its not 11 its 2%😐your actually stupid, dont try say 11% idk where u got that from...

[@SomeIrishLad]

@@adamender9092 Every source I find says between 10-12% forest cover. Could you link where you found 2%? Thanks.

[@brycertockkan9814]

'` how is he he stupid because he thinks the forest covered area is different 🙄

[@brycertockkan9814]

amp.independent.ie/business/farming/forestry-enviro/irelands-forest-cover-is-estimated-to-be-at-its-highest-level-in-over-350-years-36688615.html It’s almost 11

[@garethmcevoy1392]

@@adamender9092Ireland's forest cover is 11% consisting of mostly non native conifer plantations. It's native tree forest cover is 2%, if that's what you mean, so your man is actually correct

[@t0m_mcc]

The potato famine was really the britsh holocaust. Food was taken from Ireland and shipped to britain, while Irish people starved to death. Soup houses that were set up by protestant churches required Irish people to convert to protestantism. Many refused, preferring starvation.

[@gerardcollins80]

A more accurate comparison would be to the Ukranian Holodomor. Part of the wider Soviet Famine. Perhaps not quite on the deliberate scale as the Holodomor, but I'd say definitely a parallel.

[@williamthebonquerer9181]

Irish people did not die of lack of calories but lack of vitamins food aid was given just shit quality. Maybe a massive famine killed Irish people and comparing it to the Holocaust is why I have no sympathy for Irish people complete exaggeration. Irish are not historical victims they profited from empire.

[@ProfileP246]

You must admit though it was madness to hedge a whole population on a few crops of spuds.

[@williamthebonquerer9181]

@@ProfileP246 in hindsight

[@GerLeahy]

@@ProfileP246 Jaysis, I'd murder a spud now after you saying that

[@mattpotter8725]

Interesting video that paints over some major points of history. Yes, during the Great Famine the population of Ireland decreased dramatically, but I can't believe that you didn't actually mention that during this time when a lot of the Irish starved to death that there was enough food produced in Ireland to feed the population, it's just that most of it was exported to England (and I'm English btw), and it was the potato crop that fed the general working class population that failed due to potato blight. So it was a political decision. The conclusion to the difference between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland is that there isn't much, if you drove across the border you would barely notice that you've crossed a border (especially now, although Brexit puts this all at risk). In two counties of Northern Ireland there is a majority of protestants (Counties Antrim and Down). The reasons for this isn't just the Plantation of Ulster, even though this will have made their majority greater, but because there had been ancient kingdoms, contact, and cultural exchange that spanned the Irish Sea between Scotland and Ireland (for example the Kingdom of Dál Riata, part of what is later know as the Kingdom of Ulaid). After partition in 1921 the catholic minority was kept down, kept in poverty, and persecuted, whilst the Unionist majority ran the province. Because it would have been impossibe to sustain a province with just 2 counties and because English or English supporting landowners had major interests in 4 of the other counties, maybe there were pockets of protestant unionists as well, 4 other counties were included in what was to become Northern Ireland. This was obviously not the case for the 3 counties of Ulster that aren't in Northern Ireland (Counties Cavan, Moneghan, and Donegal, whch ironically isn't in Northern Ireland, but has the most northerly point on the island of Ireland). So whilst you get a lot of the facts right, there's a lot you leave out, you could even have included a single sentence and not gone into the depth above, but you didn't, which is a shame.

[@ONeill01]

The history of Kingdom of Dál Riata has nothing to do with ulster scots or protestant identity however it is often erroneously misapplied to them

[@iammrbeat]

True that. It can be difficult to know what to leave in and what to leave out. Thanks for sharing that information.

[@RobertK1993]

Matt Potter Ireland should be repartition Fermanagh and Tyrone have nationalist majorities other 4 countries can stay as NÍ.

[@mattpotter8725]

@@ONeill01 I know that Dál Riata predates even the notion of protestantism by many centuries, but it just shows that that part of Ireland and Scotland have many links. I was going to put in my reply that the name Scotland actually comes from Ireland, the Scoti tribe. All I was showing by saying that was that there are links between the north and northeast coast of Ireland closest to Scotland and Scotland, before these entities ever existed, Ireland should never have been partitioned. In the end all I was trying to point out was that there were only two counties that were majority Unionist, which is fact, but they still should have been to work out any differences with the rest of the island and make it work. Maybe that wouldn't have been possible, but the situation since that point hasn't exactly been good for anyone on any side.

[@mattpotter8725]

@@RobertK1993 Which 4 counties are you talking about? Counties Armagh and Derry-Londonderry aren't majority Unionist are they? Only Antrim and Down are. Anyway I think what you are talking about is crazy, if the whole of NI decides that it wants to join the Republic then it should. I think it will happen eventually anyway given time, but you can't bite chunks out of the province until it disappears, that's as daft as Boris Johnson's plan for the no border. We've seen over the past 20 years how NI has benefited from an open border with the Republic. To any outsider going there today and crossing between the two it is just like it being one country. If it does happen then there have to be protections for the protestant areas or there'd be violence again, and no one wants this.

[@paddy20111000]

Did you do any research on this topic ? Jeez , I've seen some inaccurate crap on KZbin over the years but this post is way up there at the top of the list

[@mashkamota]

how so?

[@matthewsurgenor2961]

Fact: Most of game of thrones was recorded in Northern Ireland

[@iammrbeat]

And you can visit many of those locations!

[@sharonsloan]

Naturally, it's God's own countryside! Been to many of them.

[@unpixel3797]

All I'll say is holy fuck places like balintoy are now flooded with scumbag tourists because of game of thrones yet no one except a few gave a shit about it before game of thrones honestly seeing all these retards with fucking capes and swords walking about our wee country actually hurts

[@Valencetheshireman927]

Northern Ireland is a beautiful land , it would be far better if the IRA didn’t dirty it though .

[@johnny2hats330]

It sucks because Ballintoy is now so busy, that used to be my go-to sea fishing spot. I was also in GoT as an extra and got to see some of the filming locations that're on private property

[@PeruvianPotato]

The sad thing about being early is that I can't find flame wars if Northern Ireland should be part of Ireland

[@ukisbeggar8462]

They are incoming...

[@RobertK1993]

English are stuck with Northern Ireland Brexiteers be bitter blame your ancestors 🇮🇪🇪🇺

[@iammrbeat]

Just come back in a few days.

[@陈驰-b9y]

free northern Ireland

[@Wasserkaktus]

The irony of the reunification of Ulster with the rest of Ireland is that if it will happen, it won't happen because the Irish demanded it, but it was rather the stupidity of the English and Brexit which will force the Irish and Ulster Scots of Ulster to demand reunification with Ireland.

[@FinnD777]

Are we all forgetting that the pail around Dublin was the most british area in Ireland for centurys and that Ulster was always the most Irish Provence and were able to withstand the British for a long time until the flight of the Earl's. The o neills came from Monaghan and the o Donnell's from Donegal which is why they are still very Irish today.

[@puskasisagod1235]

Exactly. Just look at the statistics, in the next decade or so more people under 65 will be catholic, in some Ulster counties it already it. With brexit happening Scotland will surely become independent, followed by NI reunification with the rest of Ireland.

[@FinnD777]

Puskás Is a god It’s certainly becoming more and more of a reality!

[@noodlyappendage6729]

Scotland isn’t going to be independent of the UK! Jesus there’s been an actual referendum on this subject! They voted No. Another thing. Whether Catholics became a majority in Northern Ireland or not matters little. More and more people from the Protestant side are loosing their Christian faith and are now non religious or Atheist. This is one of the main reasons Protestants as declining and Catholics are rising. However these people are still Unionist. Roughly 65% of all of those who are non Christian support the UK. I think only 20-25% of non Christians support breaking away from the UK to join the RoI. And then there are the Catholics that support remaining a part of the UK. More Catholics want to remain in the UK then Protestants want to break away from the UK and join the RoI.

[@raftonpounder6696]

It’s the Pale.

[@noodlyappendage6729]

@@puskasisagod1235 Delusional. Northern Ireland won't become majority Catholic. Catholics only make up 28% of the population and a good chunck of them support remaining in the UK.

[@bubba842]

"Kind of a country?" No it's definitely a country. A country that is recognized by the Republic of Ireland and the UK.

[@DP-qm6qe]

Yep true

[@dandei545]

Not a state tho.

[@DP-qm6qe]

@@dandei545 it's a country not a state

[@chriskennedy2298]

Fuck up.

[@mrd8782]

No its a part of uk

[@michaelcullen5308]

Okay, he described the sides wrongly in the Civil War, but apart from that it’s one of the best descriptions of Ireland I’ve ever seen

[@barbalaza8370]

I don't even know where to begin with this, let's just call it a load of horseshit and leave it at that.

[@philmcdonald4778]

Horseshit is useful.

[@crysanthiumvega]

Back up your statement.

[@concong4183]

@@crysanthiumvega He's Irish, and so am I. He doesn't have to back up anything. This is unadulterated horseshit.

[@crysanthiumvega]

@@concong4183 back up your statement.

[@michaelm4870]

Why is it horseshit, is it because he said the North is a member of England cos it is

[@kieranfitz]

The civil war wasn't over wanting to stay a part of the UK or not. It was more to do with the oath of allegiance and degree of seperation. The North barely factored into it.

[@iammrbeat]

Yeah, I could have worded that better. Thanks for pointing that out.

[@Valencetheshireman927]

Northern Ireland wanted to be British so it took no part in the civil war

[@shredder9536]

The North did factor into it. Anti Treaty Republicans were against partition and wanted a 32 county Republic which included the North

[@fishyq5077]

Northern Ireland was fabricated to create an artificial majority. That is not how democracy works. Many people in the annexed part of Ireland wanted to be free. They still do. @@Valencetheshireman927

[@aaronhughes9216]

My advice is to maybe not cover such sensitive content with no real understanding on anything about it and to perhaps not display the whole island inaccurately and as one big joke

[@dearbhlaobeirne9716]

You should really revise this video, the inaccuracies regarding the cause of the civil war and the results of the 1798 rebellion are insulting. The Irish never "joined forces" with the British. We were colonised by an imperialist power with little to no regard for the wishes of the general populace.

[@billdoesjudo]

Get off your high horse Dearbhla, It's a 13-minute video made by someone non-Irish and there are a couple of instances of clumsy phrasing. Where do you get off being Little Miss Offended.

[@jacobb17]

@@billdoesjudo So wanting something to be more historically acurate is somehow being on a 'high horse'? Not being from a country doesn't give you a free pass to getting things wrong when trying to make an educational video. He didn't just word things 'clumsilily' he got things objectively wrong in some parts. For example the Republic of Irelands forrest cover is not 1%, its 10-12%. Also he described the Irish war for independence as between 'those who wanted independence from the UK and those who wanted to stay with the UK' when in reality neither side actually wanted to stay with the UK. That's not clumsy wording, its just incorrect.

[@billdoesjudo]

@@jacobb17 as these types of videos go, it's pretty accurate throughout. What you mentioned is about all he got wrong and he owned up to it in other comments. In my opinion, it isn't reasonable to find it insulting, without commending anything else about the video. There are always going to be misrepresentations when making something complex understandable to a lay audience. It's KZbin, not the United Nations.

[@jacobb17]

@@billdoesjudo Most people realistically aren't going to see those comments, at least compared to how many will see just the video. Sure he owned up to the mistakes, but he could've fixed them before he released the video. You should fact check yourself. A teacher would still take points off of an essay for getting a fact wrong even if you corrected yourself after they told you it was incorrect. Yes, the video overall was accurate, but there's nothing wrong with pointing out inaccuracies. I would've kept on thinking that Ireland's forrest cover is 1% if I hadn't read the comments, etc, etc. You're making an argument out of nothing. Plus, the comment you responded to is over a year old at this point. What was the purpose of replying to it?

[@YurManDavid]

Some of these false facts hurt my soul :( Ireland and England didn't "stop fighting" to "join forces" FFS, and the population of Ireland was at least 8 million pre-famine. No idea where you got that graph. A million died and two million emigrated, and the population was halved by the time the next decade was over as more famines hit. You literally got the whole premise for the Civil War 100% WRONG. It was fought between nationalists who felt the treaty betrayed the Republic. At least you got The Troubles right by saying it was political and not sectarian!

[@fragels]

12 million in Ireland pre famine, the vast majority of that was in what is now ROI.

[@memisemyself]

I think that the graph refers to the area that is now the Republic and using official figures, which were very inaccurate until the 1860's.

[@tommymurtagh8888]

@@fragels No it was not. 1841 census put it at 8m.

[@fragels]

@@tommymurtagh8888 You mean the British government census of Ireland? They wouldn't lie, now would they? What would that reason be? You should look at interviews from the 1916 rebels on here, They have the population at 11 million plus pre famine. Who would you trust.?

[@tommymurtagh8888]

@@fragels Do you honestly think that the census of 1841 was carried out by anyone other than Irish officials? The Brits wanted to know exactly what was the situation in Ireland so yes, I would trust the 1841 census more than a vague unsupported and previously unheard allegation by some person on the internet. The British cared nothing for Ireland so the idea they would indulge in political spin is the stuff of nonsense. Apart from the leaders rebel soldiers from 1916 were, through no fault of theirs, in the main of a low educational standard. Most if not all would not have been born before 1881 let alone 1841 . Tom Clarke was the oldest b.1858 but that was in England . Is fear liom fírinne ná clostrácht .

[@user-fe8rh9rg7j]

6:50 Just a little note for people who wonder where that story comes from. It's not that he literally kicked out snakes. Snakes is how they refer to non-Christians. So by "getting rid of the snakes" he was getting rid of pagans and non believers

[@iammrbeat]

I hadn't heard that before. Thanks for sharing!

[@KyleInOklahoma]

*_Theres a 12th century Church & graveyard on the edge of my property in Dublin. It was still in use until recent years. Many of my relations were Christened in it & my kids in the one that replaced it...Its so beautiful & amazing to walk around & imagine the people celebrating Mass here 12 hundred years ago_*

[@IgnoresTrolls]

Ulster Scots isn't a language it's just people from Ballymena speak English with such a thick accent nobody can understand them.

[@ernestrogen4639]

ay ya shud go over to some parts of the Irish Republic na much of a difference lol. Thick paddys.

[@adamfinnegan735]

@@ernestrogen4639 not gonna lie the "thick paddys" comment wasn't needed 🤡

[@henryblaskowitz7920]

Classic Mr beat trying to start a war again

[@iammrbeat]

I promise you, there will be no more Troubles. At least I hope not.

[@stephenwright8824]

@@iammrbeat I believe I'm somewhat unique among Irish-Americans on the Internet in that I don't romanticise about the Troubles, nor do I think the Provisional IRA were anything more than terrorists. A peaceful resolution to the problem of two Irelands is the only sane and sensible way to go.

[@bobloblaw3191]

@BemusedBarfly you should show more respect to your American cousins for they did bankroll quite a lot of those PIRA toys

[@jordanhalpin9493]

Stephen Wright *freedom fighters

[@ghgfrghfrhgdxvgredghhgvfth1573]

Stephen Wright according to the US demographics on ethnicity about 10.2% of the population identify as Irish American however only 2% identify as scotch Irish. The government on the other hand estimates that a at least 8% of the people identifying as Irish American are actually scotch Irish due to documentation from churches and other institutions as it records the place of birth most stemming from the province of Ulster. Plus to add validity to it most were brought up or are Protestant

[@jackmitchell-shelley752]

I'm actually from a wee town in Northern Ireland called Lisburn. I found this "summary" very useful to those not born within the island of Ireland. Whilst some of the "facts" were condensed for clarity, I appreciate the synopsis nonetheless. I appreciate some of the vitriol from the comments, but I also want to commend the video for highlighting Ireland in general to the wider world. I rarely find anyone outside of our wee country who has any grasp (even a rudimentary one) of the differentiation between North an South. It is important to call out the inaccuracies, but the "rough draft" displayed here is great at showcasing the lives of those who grew up in Ireland. I encourage anyone who has had a negative response to this video to upload their own summary of life in Ireland. All voices are valid in showcasing the wealth of people and traditions of this immensely important little island on the world stage. I look forward to hearing more authentic voices come out of this and am happy that this video may be a catalyst for some viewers to upload their own content.

[@johnjames5587]

That wee saying you just said you know our wee country meaning the little sectarian statelet loyalists terrorists have affectionately to themselves labled it so for the north east of the real country yano all 32 counties of it. but non the less loyalist terrorists have labelled the 6 county sectarian statelet "Northern ireland" as our wee country is a sectarian and colonialistic word that nobody with exception of me explaining it to you, with sense utters, its not our wee country, its the country of the united republic of ireland, hopefully soon to be

[@paulduffy4585]

@@johnjames55871000 comments calling this video total inaccurate shite. Dude from Lisburn commending "facts condensed for clarity."

[@miguel111093]

Salute my Irish brothers 🇲🇽 🇮🇪 🍻

[@SiVlog1989]

The whole of Ireland is fascinating, I first became aware of it in the late 1990's after the signing of the Good Friday Agreement. Some of the history between the UK and Ireland, I'm ashamed to say, is not good, especially with regards to the potato famine. There's a vandalised memorial erected by the Antrim Coast road that features inflammatory phrases like, "Britannia gave her bounty with her tears, and bear this record though in phrases crude of England's love and Ireland's gratitude." As if being devastated by the potato famine (caused by blight and biblical mismanagement by London) wasn't bad enough, to be expected to show gratitude was rubbing salt in the wound. Ironically, one of the few people who tried to help the local population was Lady Londonderry, the grandmother of a certain, Winston Churchill. Churchill and Ireland had a chequered history. He was instrumental in creating one of the most infamous paramilitary forces involved in the Irish War of Independence, the Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC) Special Reserve, aka, the Black and Tans (owing to the colours of their uniforms). Far from trying to persuade the Irish to remain on good terms with what was then the rest of the UK, they only made them more motivated to leave, causing just as much death and destruction as the Irish Republican Army (IRA) were doing at the time. Few in Britain like to admit this, but Churchill actually defended this use of counter terrorism. It is just one of many examples of how Churchill is wrongly made out to be a saint, just because he guided the UK successfully through WW2 and with the help of other allied forces, like USA, France and Russia, toppled the Axis powers... And breath! Great video Matt as always, just given it the like it deserves :)

[@iammrbeat]

Well thank you, and wow was that a lot to digest.

[@SiVlog1989]

@T Kelly well said

[@SiVlog1989]

@T Kelly talking about MacArthur, considering what he did to the World War 1 veterans who were marching for a bonus, not only clearing out the encampment, but took it by force and set fire to it as well. Obviously [Herbert] Hoover took the blame for it and coupled with how the economy was struggling anyway, it basically killed what hope there was for him to win re-election. I'm amazed Hoover didn't fire MacArthur there and then in hindsight, then again, the Pacific theatre of World War 2 could have been very different

[@SiVlog1989]

@@Valencetheshireman927 what evidence do you justify such a divisive claim? There was a remark by Eamon De Valera in response to Churchill's finest hour speech on 13th May 1945. "... Mr Churchill makes it clear that in certain circumstances he would have violated our neutrality, and would have justified his actions by 'England's necessity.' Surely Mr Churchill must see that like-minded attitudes were used to justify similar acts of aggression elsewhere..." He went on: "... Mr Churchill is proud of Britain's stand alone, after France had fallen and before America entered the war. Could he find it in his heart, that there is a small nation that stood alone, not for one year or two, but for 700 years against aggression." There may have been some who were keen to use violence to achieve their aim to achieve Irish Independence, but they have had to deal with centuries worth of receiving it first (particularly by Cromwell)

[@SiVlog1989]

@John Donnellan exactly, which is why I said that I was ashamed to say that our history with Ireland has had its dark times

[@curlykale1226]

This is factually incorrect on so many points

[@faubourglincoln]

I agree. North Ireland people are more submissive and have less dignity in general. Other than that, they are both nice people overall.

[@sleyyyyla]

@@faubourglincoln "less dignity" away on w yourself

[@DarkPlaysThings]

Yeh, this is painfully inaccurate

[@farlow1798]

@@faubourglincoln you insult northern Ireland and call them nice people, lmao

[@priestofronaldalt]

@@faubourglincoln Irish nationalist moment

[@PaddyPanda]

That's not what the civil war was about. It was those who accepted the controversial treaty and those who opposed it. The treaty divided Ireland and made it a Free state, not a republic among other things.

[@iammrbeat]

Yeah, I messed up with the communication by trying to simplify it.

[@Hwral]

I first thought I was listening to a Kermit impersonator, so couldn’t be sure if this was some kind of parody.

[@mgphall1]

Just to point out that Ireland is further north than Northern Ireland

[@anthonydowling3356]

I am Irish living in Ireland mostly but have never heard of what you called "Shelta " (a language containing a mixture of Gaelic and English ) .Good video though and a good recap as History was not my favorite subject at school.

[@markryan9975]

I think it’s actually a language used by the traveller community.

[@paulaherne3915]

There's only one Ireland. Just because one part of it is occupied by a foreign country does not mean it is two countries.

[@haroldinho9930]

It is... Yes there’s only one Irish island. But there’s two countries, The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and The Republic of Ireland.

[@paulaherne3915]

@@haroldinho9930 the United Kingdom isn't a country, you eejit! It's an autocratic construct that was never arrived at by the democratic decision of any nation. No-one was ever asked if they wanted the Acts of Union.

[@poneill81]

If you're lucky enough to be Irish, you're lucky enough.

[@irishguysscarf6197]

We are

[@poneill81]

@Qori Arkamani It's true we where at the door step of the Roman Empire, but just like the British they could never beat the Irish, which seems mystical if you believe we're nobodies !!

[@dandei545]

@@poneill81 Wrong, Roman invasions christianized britain and Ireland.

[@poneill81]

@@dandei545 The Roman's invaded Britian and stayed for 400 years but never made it to Ireland. The Roman's left Britain in 410ad but it wasnt until after 500ad the pagan Irish started to convert to christianity so nothing to do with the Roman's. Ever heard of St Patrick's day !!

[@amysands8925]

Why?

[@johnhutchinson8838]

Just for clarification, the peace lines in Belfast seperate Nationalists from Unionist populations, NOT Republicans from Nationalists as they are the same.

[@rachel.mcgowan]

Not the same. Republicans are the violent offshoot from Irish Nationalism. Just like Loyalists vis-a-vis Unionists.

[@tldredhistory8391]

isn't it the protestants and Catholic

[@oisin1816]

Hard to cover this topic without offending pretty much everyone so good job pal

[@nicih9826]

his information is all wrong

[@Mustymusterson]

I’m Northern Irish YAY IM FINALLY NOTICED-

[@sirsausagedog4162]

Same it's rare that Northern Ireland is mentioned, if you say northern Ireland on Google assistant, the republic of Ireland comes up

[@Mustymusterson]

SirSausageDog I know! And it’s kinda sad to,

[@Sam-jc1el]

YEOOOOO

[@zoesemple3418]

Yayyy!

[@KeranKeranos]

Irish or imperialist

[@iammaxhailme]

Honestly I just love your goofy middle school teacher humor style. It almost makes me miss being in school. Almost. But not quite.

[@iammrbeat]

Who needs school when you've got KZbin? But glad you are ok with my bad jokes. :D

[@comradegeneralvladimirpoot1313]

0:06 "The Irish never quit." You can say that again! *car bomb goes off in background*

[@iammrbeat]

I just like the soap commercials.

[@Valencetheshireman927]

🤦‍♂️Terrorism isn’t a joke

[@bobloblaw3191]

@BemusedBarfly Yea the Vikings and Normans really have a lot to answer for...

[@bobloblaw3191]

@BemusedBarfly Are you saying there were no Vikings or Normans in Ireland?

[@bobloblaw3191]

@BemusedBarfly Sure and which century did the Norman's arrive?

[@owenhaughian6529]

It’s actually pretty much 50/50 with Catholics and Protestants in the north

[@evamcauley1598]

Owen Haughian depends what town you’re in

[@owenhaughian6529]

Eva Mcauley well yeah but he was talking about the north as a whole and so am I

[@ninjacole803]

There was no “stopped fighting to join forces” with the Acts of Union, they were dictated to the Irish people through an Anglican parliament and later a major campaign was led by famed politician Daniel O’Connell to repeal the Act of Union. In fact, Ireland being ruled from Westminster became a major cause of the famine that century. And the civil war had nothing at all to do with “staying with Britain or not”. As for the border question it’s quite likely that a reunited Ireland is within the next two decades

[@Valencetheshireman927]

Being ruled from Westminster had nothing to do with the famine it still would have happened . Although the British government kind of made it worse do to mismanagement

[@ninjacole803]

J 19 No, direct rule had nothing to do with the potato blight itself but it had plenty to do with the famine, many other European nations suffered food shortages due to the blight and various crop failures associated with poor winters in that time, but the famine level shortages were a direct result of Westminster policy

[@Dreyno]

J 19 Incorrect. The reason the population was dependent on potatoes was the fault of the landed gentry and their rack renting and the reason the crop failure was not mitigated against was the fault of the government of Westminster. Ireland was a net exporter of food for every year of the famine. There has been some absolute horse shit written on the topic in recent years to try and absolve Britain for it’s actions (and lack thereof) and the contortions of the mind to achieve it are frankly distasteful.

[@RobertK1993]

J 19 Yes United Irishmen government in wake of a hypothetical 1798 rebellion victory would still have the famine to deal with probably lot better than Westminster.

[@dannyboy5517]

@@Valencetheshireman927 Learn the facts

[@billbergendahl2911]

Back in 2004 I was lucky enough to visit the Republic of Ireland. Our tour group rode a huge ferry from England over to Dublin. The ferry was so large that they were driving big trucks onto it.

[@sisir360]

I was fortunate enough to, before the world shut down, visit Dublin, about a year ago. Before my visit, I had no idea about the wars and the protests. I’d learnt a bit of Irish history through reading the plaques and signs at the entrances of Dublin’s famous parks, cathedrals and other landmarks. So fascinating! Definitely have to go back there someday.

[@SirMrShanks]

You should have researched and read about Ireland before visiting. Bit short sighted to visit somewhere without reading about it first.

[@SirMrShanks]

@Jeff Collins You get a better understanding and appreciation of the place you visit. Surely you read the history about a place before visiting?

[@billybellend1155]

The republic is further north that Northern Ireland.

[@aaronpa5011]

@Cliff Smith theres no such thing, the country is called the republic of ireland

[@bomtombadil2639]

@Cliff Smith how can it be southern ireland if it is further north than the occupied 6.

[@bomtombadil2639]

@Cliff Smith it's the republic of Ireland

[@TommyBuckley]

@Cliff SmithIt's the Republic, you fucktard.

[@stephenwright8824]

Thank the gods for County Donegal. Now if the British would just give the Republic Fermanagh and Tyrone, I'll have a better opinion of them. They can keep Armagh and Antrim. 😁 This Irish-American thinks reunification would be a nightmare for the economy of the Republic, special EU recovery funds be damned

[@thomasalmond6210]

The Irish civil war wasn’t between unionists and nationalists. It was between pro and anti treaty factions in the south

[@jannoottenburghs5121]

He did say it in the video at 9:24

[@thomasalmond6210]

@@jannoottenburghs5121 The graphic he showed did. But he said those who wanted to stay with Britain and those who wanted to leave it but all the sides wanted to leave the UK in the civil war

[@RobertK1993]

Janno_O It didn’t say it was in written text he made a mistake.

[@iammrbeat]

Yeah I worded that horribly.

[@katiedaly5643]

Correction, Ireland is 1 country which was divided by colonists following hundreds of years of effort to get rid of them. Time will eventually take care of everything!!!🙏🇮🇪☘️

[@MateoQuixote]

I screamed when I saw the thumbnail!!! A comparison that I've been dying to see! (Bonus: a funny show that's on Netflix in the US that's related to this is called Derry Girls. Super funny!)

[@peterdavy6110]

Even TRYING to tackle this subject takes guts.

[@iammrbeat]

Well tried I did. :)

[@Valencetheshireman927]

There’s lots and lots of anglophobic Irish nationalists in the comments . As expected of a video like this .😩

[@bobloblaw3191]

@@Valencetheshireman927 Someone blew the green horn

[@maskellmaolseachlainn6347]

@@Valencetheshireman927 Wow what insight! I'll correct your sentence for you: 'There are lots and lots of Irish people in the comments.'

[@ninjacat4929]

It’s ok he is far enough away not to catch any flack !

[@t.f.ogealbhain3460]

“Ireland and England stopped fighting and joined forces to create the United Kingdom of Great Beitain and Ireland”... you wot mate?

[@mcnally3568]

Same name

[@libc5739]

Northern irland

[@TheRingoism]

Yeah Isn't that great, we all stopped fighting and joined one another as peoples of the British Isles...

[@user-ys5yv2nz6w]

@@TheRingoism Didn't happen lol

[@TheRingoism]

@@user-ys5yv2nz6w Except It did and we took it round the world

[@williamhild1793]

FIFA treats Northern Ireland as a country so Northern Ireland has it's own national football squad. The IOC does not, so they combine with the rest of the UK. Also, Northern Ireland had George Best, and the Republic of Ireland had...well, Robbie Keane, I guess. Advantage: definitely Northern Ireland! :)

[@RobertK1993]

Republic of Ireland has Roy Keane and many others.

[@iammrbeat]

Thanks for sharing that!

[@iRatedxD]

The North was also the original football team on the island

[@kieranfitz]

It's Great Britain in the Olympics. Not the UK.

[@williamhild1793]

@@kieranfitz Right. The team is referred to as Great Britain. I just said that Northern Ireland COMBINES with the rest of the UK, not that the team name is UK. Their full title is Great Britain and Northern Ireland Olympic Team, which is shortened to Great Britain with the brand name Team GB.

[@ricky99la]

Very well done Mr. Beat! A great in summary on the history of these two countries that was easy to understand

[@RobertK1993]

Yep not biased he missed 1798 and 1803 United Irishmen rebellion that attempt to unite Catholics and Protestants and Dissenters inspired by American Revolution and French Revolution.

[@iammrbeat]

Thanks so much! Yeah I left out a lot, of course, but I tried to hit the main points. And the orange reminded me about the potatoes. :)

[@Dannydantimpat]

@ricky99la The north of Ireland ( Northern Ireland ) isn’t a country , it’s a piece of Ireland that has been annexed by England .

[@richardwalsh5882]

It's one country - NOT two.

[@johnanthonyfingleton2954]

The Civil War was not about those that wanted to stay in the UK and those that didn't

[@jf723]

Well at least the video got the weather right - Rain, rain and rain.

[@tldredhistory8391]

lmao

[@davidlally592]

Yes if visiting Ireland (NI and/or the Republic): bring a mac!! This is why the island is so green..!!

[@valhalla9688]

Republic of Ireland = return on investment Northern Ireland =no investment

[@iammrbeat]

Was that a roast of Northern Ireland?

[@RobertK1993]

Liverpool 11 Northern Ireland was as backward too the cruel pagan English love dividing and ruling the Irish Scottish and Welsh we ain’t haven’t it anymore freedom 🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇪🇺

[@RobertK1993]

Liverpool 11 I was joking about pagan English everyone including Hollywood portrays them as villains tell me you think Ireland could be united with Brexit fallout.

[@itsmesoitis4059]

@@RobertK1993 😀

[@edwardcoyle5425]

The "protestant" religion is actually The Church of England that was created when an English king wanted a divorce and his request was denied by the Pope so he created The church of England and then gave himself a divorce. Anyone who did not convert to the Church of England was considered unloyal to the Throne and some were sent to Jamestown and other American settlements. But in Ireland kings of England gave loyal Scots, who fought to subjugate Ireland, land in Ulster. So, important to remember that protestant/Catholic "conflict" is completely political and religion is simply an identifier and reminder of centuries of oppression. : ] Peace to All.

[@immortaltyrant2474]

The vast majority of Protestants in Northern Ireland don't subscribe to the Church of England, however. They are mostly Presbyterians.

[@edwardcoyle5425]

@@immortaltyrant2474 True, the name has been changed.

[@baxakk7374]

I was watching a show about that time. How they stuck burning sticks into the assholes of priests who wouldn't denounce Catholicism. Just brutal.

[@rocketballz]

Being from co.down northern Ireland I have never heard of the secret language called 'shelta'.... Ever 🤷

[@cros13]

Some travellers speak Shelta. It's their language/dialect.

[@rocketballz]

@@cros13 oh I see, I only knew that described language as De Gammon 🤷

[@galoglaich3281]

@@rocketballz There are a number of words for it cant shelta gammon.Shelta wouldn't be used that often ,its more a word academics would use .

[@yedder7628]

United Ireland

[@jackson1342]

No 😂😂😂

[@anttionparkerq4635]

@@jackson1342 Yes😂😂😂

[@resolvewolf6039]

I'm from Northern Ireland and my whole family do not believe in any religions.

[@RogerTaylorscar244]

same

[@olliedwards8069]

Good

[@randomliamsquares765]

“The Irish potato famine? Why do you care, you’re an orange?” Pretty much sums up Britain’s attitude to it 😂

[@philmcdonald4778]

The "Irish" Potato famine affected most of Northern Europe.

[@jamesmmm98]

It was a famine turned Into Genocide by the British.

[@philmcdonald4778]

@@jamesmmm98 Those dastardly British .

[@FLITT]

Maybe they just think "It was fucking hundreds of years ago, not a single person involved or affected by it are alive today, so blaming them is thick as fuck. So stop bitching about something you have no first hand experience of and ditch the victim complex you whingey arsehole"... Maybe that's it?

[@bigmanchungie8685]

As someone from Northern Ireland, the war was actually because of the the rights to potatoes

[@BermuAlex]

I hope Ireland will be reunited again. 🇮🇪 Love from Spain.

[@shrekisthebestanime3644]

It is decided by Northern Ireland if they choose to unite or be a independent nation of their own

[@dandei545]

@@shrekisthebestanime3644 fake English propaganda

[@shrekisthebestanime3644]

Dan Dei You sure about that

[@shrekisthebestanime3644]

Gibraltar is British

[@jackson1342]

No

[@dylc5604]

It's a bit insensitive to use an orange for exposition on a subject about oppressing Irish people..

[@unoriginql6089]

u do realise protestants are oppressed too lmao

[@dylc5604]

@@unoriginql6089 Are you trolling or are you just stupid?

[@callummcgregorenthusiast5545]

Dyl C I would love to hear his reasoning for this.

[@unoriginql6089]

Dyl C not by the government of course. but they get oppressed by catholics and vice versa

[@dylc5604]

@@unoriginql6089 I was specifically referring to the talking orange and the famine..

[@kdmkevin5146]

bro that Viking ship with a Norwegian flag wouldn't be possible because the Norwegian flag was invented in 1821 løl. Where my Norwegians at 7:02

[@iammrbeat]

I know I know. I figured some dork like you would notice it. lol

[@ftx453]

My family are descendants of famine survivors that live in Washington DC 1851 to 2021!

[@NSXPCConnection]

YESSS A NEW VIDEO FROM MR BEAT

[@bappo2751]

bitch

[@bappo2751]

fuck you

[@AndrewLuke]

Good on you for posting that The Troubles wasn't a religious war. Just gangsters with regular folk caught between, or forced to side. Also the British gov., active in sustaining,m the conflict from deploying regular squaddies to Intel agents who committed atrocities that were hung on both loyalist and republican. Undoubtedly actions saved lives but this was a dirty war of playing one side against another.

[@amaritineenthusiast]

We get a horrifying amount of rain here in Northern Ireland

[@owainellis8988]

Wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 and England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 compared

[@toaster3561]

Scotland?

[@M7MD_JOSE]

@@toaster3561 yeh

[@nssportstv7231]

Please do Manchester and Liverpool compared next

[@iammrbeat]

I would love to.

[@nssportstv7231]

@Arch Stanton I think he will compare much more than just football (soccer)

[@murillogago]

What's up dude? I am Brazilian and I have lived in Ireland to learn English, I love History and geography. Your channel is helping me a lot with English, because your teaching and the way you speak is very easy, I can understand 90% without subtitles and still learn more about history and geography. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[@michellebryson2954]

I’m a catholic from the north

[@liamthebull]

I think a Wyoming and Colorado comparison would be great. I also think a West Virginia/Virginia video would be cool. Nice work on the "compared'' videos.

[@grainne9981]

wait, so where did you get all the video clips of Newry?!?!

[@vampirezozo]

Um wat. Ive never heard of the Ards Peninsula used as an "attraction" 😂

[@WizzardJC]

ikr, i used to pass it all the time and this is the first im hearing of it..

[@caoilte8097]

Should’ve had the mourne mountains or ring of gullion

[@anthonymcdonagh5577]

Shelta isn't a secret language it's a language that's belonging to Ireland's ethnic minority the irish travellers and theres 2 dialects gammon and cant

[@centuriongaming1866]

You need a reward for taking about northern Ireland

[@kevinfitzpatrick860]

forest cover in ireland is 11% - not 1 % as stated in this video

[@danieldeburgh8437]

Great video Mr. Beat, however there is one mistake. The Civil War was between those who supported the treaty for effective Independence (kind of Dominion Status) and those who wanted a full republic. All wanted Independence in the Free State. The Unionists up North had their own country created by the Govt in ireland act and they were not part of any war

[@iammrbeat]

I knew that, I just worded it horribly in the video. I messed up with the communication by attempting to simplify.

[@bobsmith5441]

Correction: There are plenty of snakes in Northern Ireland.

[@mvega6018]

They never "stopped fighting and joined forces to form the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland". This was forced upon the Irish people by the British. The Irish never voluntarily joined this.

[@buddy8225]

Half my family is from Ireland, the other half is from Germany. So yeah, I support a united Ireland.😊

[@bobloblaw3191]

Unifying Germany was a mistake

[@obamabinladen4109]

9:49 You left out the fact that it was the British Army on the other side, for the most part, rather than loyalist paramilitaries

[@kieranfitz]

Please don't go calling Ulster Scots a language. It'll give them notions.

[@iammrbeat]

lol my bad

[@FATHOLLYWOODB123]

What sucks, if the Republic has just recently as in the past few decades figured out how to have a prosperous and ever growing economy, one of the best in the world, and instantly started allowing massive immigrant populations to settle, it's as if the government forgot who the priority is, take care of your people first.

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

Oh they didn't forget Ben they were simply bought off by the Globalists Given an incredibly fat paycheck to do what there told including flooding Ireland with immigrats disturbing fact that Ireland 2040 plan is not about the population growing by 1 million people by 2040 its the migrants brought into Ireland target by 2040

[@panterasux22]

humans didn't wipe out our forests, the british did

[@brianhannon4609]

Northern Ireland is considered an occupied state I think and the province is ulster and in ulster 2 or 3 county’s are in the republic Edit: there was no famine it was a genocide

[@JJaqn05]

The only occupied state is the republic of Ireland and it wasn't genocide.

[@brianhannon4609]

@@JJaqn05 ni is considered an occupied state and the famine was a genocide as we were under English rule yet they did nothing it was a genocide

[@a11osaurus]

How is it an occupied state when it has its own government?

[@brianhannon4609]

@@a11osaurus that’s how it’s officially classes

[@JJaqn05]

@Stephen K I don't understand why you want the British to genocide Ireland like what's your problem? Irish people are still being taken advantage of by their government. Nothing has changed. But i feel in the future even if Scotland becomes independent that the British Isles will soon all unite to create one country. Maybe with it's capital called Londinistan

[@oslonorway547]

Just when I was wondering how you and Jabzy released videos on Ireland at the same time. 😁

[@iammrbeat]

Twas just another history KZbinr conspiracy.

[@seanrathmakedisciples1508]

I’ve subscribed to your KZbin channel. The earliest known people coming to Ireland was in 2000 bc

[@genevievemorris4008]

I’m northern Irish and just wish I was born in the republic just a lot less hastle

[@genevievemorris4008]

J J I’m 13 can’t just move away but trust me I will b wen I’m older and by all means never call me British again 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@spikey_104]

If there is a Scottish referendum and it passes, it might cause Northern Ireland to hold a referendum, at least that's the fear in Britain. I personally believe a countries people have a right to decide their own fate, so if they agree to independence, we should respect it.

[@firstroundboxing7649]

They had one and it didn't pass. "I personally believe a countries people have a right to decide their own fate, so if they agree to independence, we should respect it." but not if it goes the other way? lol.

[@gabealtf]

A lot has changed recently and the chances of a united ireland are increasing drastically… (i’m hoping for this to be the end of a divided ireland)

[@ProfileP246]

For it to be united Republican nationalist aggression and Sinn Fein /Ira would have to go.

[@gabealtf]

@@ProfileP246 do you care to elaborate?

[@michaelmccarthy9411]

Completely wrong about the civil war. Both sides wanted independence. The anti treaty side wanted all 32 counties independent

[@noodlyappendage6729]

The Pro Treaty side accepted that Southern Ireland would be a British constitutional monarchy. The Nationalist Separatists didn’t want this.

[@michaelmccarthy9411]

@@noodlyappendage6729 I have never seen any mention of a British constitutional monarchy anywhere

[@TheAlemaopolako]

Please more compared videos, I love it.

[@iammrbeat]

Right on, glad you dig them! :D

[@perpetual_suffering1458]

Cool vid but a really really important correction to make. At 9:18 the civil war was not between those who wanted to leave the union and those who wanted to stay. After the anglo irish treaty ireland got independance but had to make a lot of concessions, the british monarch had veto power, britain was allowed to maintain treaty ports within the country among other concessions. This caused the fracture, pro treaty people believed this was the best they could get as the army was growing tired and battered and couldnt fight for much longer, while the anti treaty side believed that accepting this "fake independance" spat in the faces of all those who died during the war and that they should commit to fight until thet got complete 100% independance.

[@jamesr1703]

Well, the comment section is filled with, shall I say, "not so happy Irish people." It's just a video, but I understand how passionate you are about the facts of your history. I never met an Irish person I didn't like. Ireland forever!