Ian Flynn Ruins the Lives of Children (and it's GREAT) | Sonic Speed Reading

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[@nicodemusedwards6931]

Sonic now knows the true meaning of war.

[@khriskirby8986]

WAR

[@Blu_Moon_VA]

NONE OF THIS IS GOOD, THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED *W A R*

[@victorianeal637]

@@Blu_Moon_VA i glad this series take place after a sonic game which is (sonic forces)

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Watch SatAM, and the Archie Comics and you will see He already knows.

[@khriskirby8986]

@@Blu_Moon_VA "WAR IS HELL." -somecallmejohnny

[@sophiaquintana256]

Ken Penders: Adds too many characters Ian Flynn: Ruining characters lives

[@NoNamex1412]

I mean Ken ruined their lives too

[@sophiaquintana256]

@@NoNamex1412 I really depise Ken Penders

[@dad5draco]

r/fuckkenpenders, lol.

[@Davanthall]

@@sophiaquintana256 That's because you're a smart person.

[@Need_RnR]

Ken Penders: RUINS characters, lives, franchises... and is the sum of ALL Origins of internet CRINGE... and F**kery.... Ian Flynn: The best Sonic writer. RUINER of characters lives... with NO happy endings... Before they get canceled.... *BECAUSE* of Ken Penders. There... fixed. :)

[@brolookatthatthingbehindyo1324]

Even years later, Ian Flynn can't get enough to ruining Charmy's life

[@bagelgod946]

Both within 30 comics of him becoming the head writer to...

[@feywinterfox9630]

😂 When you say it like that all I can see now is... Ian Flynn: That’s a happy looking Charmy over there....sure would be a shame if something bad was too happen to his life....continuously!

[@annon-hc253]

Ouch...

[@sophiaquintana256]

Ken Penders is just as bad if not worse

[@kaistudios5536]

I don't quite follow?

[@acehardware2823]

New Sonic theory: Ian Flynn hates Bees. You can't change my mind.

[@NoNamex1412]

Damnit i actually like charmy here

[@Help_Im_On_Fire]

@@NoNamex1412 Same

[@rainpooper7088]

He‘s the anti-Rebecca Sugar. The antiverse is still canon, people!

[@yohschannel5226]

Ian played Sonic Robo Blast 2 and tried Aerial Garden Zone

[@mavrickindigo]

But he is the bumble king

[@shonenbois]

I’m glad this Issue showed how Capable of a leader Vector is and isn’t just the comedy relief character

[@sonicmario64]

Same here, and that's probably the reason why he's my favorite member of Team Chaotix. :)

[@wafflelados]

Vector isn't funny, he may be clumsy, but the funny one is Charmy, he makes Vector look funny

[@Help_Im_On_Fire]

"Now I'm going to forever be haunted by Pizza Underwear" - Game Apologists 2021

[@CyanicCore]

same due to this vid

[@PhilipJFryII]

🍕🍕🍕

[@MAXfutbol8338]

Sonic talking Cream through the immediate grief of losing Cheese and Chocola was one of the most amazing moments in the saga. It's the reason I love this arc so much. Having not given Archie a deep dive, this is my first official exposure to these characters suffering in sorrow. And it is so amazing seeing how they fight through all that for the sake of their world.

[@M_Alexander]

Charmy had the single best shot at avoiding infection and, well

[@GameApologist]

Honestly that's probably why he was taken out.

[@twaggytheatricks4960]

@@GameApologist Yeeeeah. At least it makes sense why, I suppose. It didn't bother me QUITE as much as Shadow's case XD

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

Jokes on you the chao did too and all 3 made it hell

[@dragonquest8ftw1]

@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 The chao were only kid-like creatures that didn't fully understand the gravity of what was happening to them, all the more sad to think about really knowing they couldn't stop them from getting infected.

[@phantomstrider]

Damn.. Forget the "dark" Sonic Forces story. I'd way prefer a game about the freedom fighters overcoming the Zombotpocalypse.

[@RobocopStealerOfFridges]

Well, if the freedom fighters appeared, that would be about the Swatbotalypse.

[@BBWahoo]

THE GAME'S NOT WEAAAAAAAAAAK

[@ericparazak8448]

yes

[@Mike14264]

Strider! Fancy seeing you down here! 😁

[@wisccheese9257]

Idw artwork got me interested

[@karenbonds264]

"For the sake of this video, I'll call her *Karen* because she's putting everyone at risk." Me who's an introvert who will go out of her way to avoid people in the supermarket even before the Pandemic hit: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@renegadedjinn5325]

Cute name but I think he got the "Karen" tag wrong.^^

[@RoninCatholic]

The Karen stereotype also applies to the people most aggressive in bullying other people into wearing masks, even people with medical conditions preventing the use, post-recovery status obsoleting their need, or in inappropriate places like outdoors or when alone in their own cars. The Karen stereotype is one of exerting undue social control and pressure combined with unwarranted self-importance...and doesn't really have much to do with women literally named Karen aside from Karen being a common name for women in the age range the stereotype is most applicable to.

[@infiniteoctopaw]

Being named Karen is not the same thing as *being* “a Karen”. Don’t worry you’re cool.

[@Hey-Its-Dingo]

@@infiniteoctopaw This, there are many, many good people named "Karen" and the majority of karens aren't actually named Karen. The term originated in Black communities, from what I've heard, a "karen" is someone, usually a white woman but not always, who puts their own needs over everything else, not caring about anybody else. So when a large group of people in a GLOBAL PANDEMIC were acting for ONLY their needs and not caring about anybody else, the term got applied to them, and White people, myself included sad to say, took it mainstream. Just a little history lesson on the term "Karen"

[@mythosinfinite6736]

Some sacrifices are necessary in the name of comedy

[@hubster3055]

16:52 The two extra characters in this scene are based on the OCs of two kids from Venezuela. Their friend asked Tracy Yardley to include them in the issue in any way he could because they were going through hard times and wanted some way to help them feel better.

[@GamerTowerDX]

Ngl I really like their designs so props to the kids I guess.

[@user-jz8dd3zj8e]

I really hope they’re okay now.

[@DrawingBoi-24]

Where did you get the information?

[@bagelgod946]

Gotta say I love how they made vector. Still comedic but you can see why he’s the leader.

[@FrostTheHobidon]

Vector is a Capable Leader, Charmy is a Kid who wants to save people hoping there's a chance they can be saved, and it was sad to see him captured and infected.

[@alejandrolozano4919]

Yea I don’t hate he but same time do but not a very heavy way. Charmy want to help he trying best and got infected right away.

[@candythefox]

Charmy it's my third favorite i cry when he was infected😔😖

[@wakeangel2001]

There is one thing about this issue that answered a question I had for a long time. WAAAAY back when Sonic Heroes first came out in the Team Rose story we were introduced to this brown chao that we were told was Cheese's brother named Chocola, and we never see him again. Who was Chocola and why did we never see him again even though Cream DID appear in several games after that? THIS issued finally explains it, Chocola is Vanilla's chao partner the same way Cheese is Cream's. Just as we have a "Cream Cheese" pun with that iconic duo we also have Vanilla and Chocolate. This also fuels my theory that Vanilla is a retired adventurer who used to travel the globe kicking all sorts of ass with her chao partner chocola, but settled down when she got pregnant with her daughter. That would explain why Vanilla can be so intimidating, even to a group of heroes who have battled gods and averted apocalypses (I'm not even joking, you've read the comic, you've SEEN Amy and Rouge TREMBLE at the very idea that Vanilla might be even slightly upset with them, I'm pretty sure Vanilla can make Shadow sit down and eat his veggies.)

[@case_sensitive]

That's actually a fun head-canon

[@shadowclaw7210]

You know with Mr.Clutchs quote of “the new generation of heroes”. Maybe you on to something ?

[@swiflte]

My new head-canon

[@KavinCatastrophe]

And Who Says The Zombot Virus Isn't Kid Friendly. It Clearly Loves Kids.

[@ShibuNub3305]

I interpreted that sentence differently.

[@stupiderandunnecessarier]

@@ShibuNub3305 "When a stranger tries to touch you in a place that makes you feel uncomfortable..."

[@FixyFlow]

@@stupiderandunnecessarier “That’s no good!”

[@CyanicCore]

Nice one

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

...dear God don't even get me started on what they do to vanilla and vector

[@amazaine8743]

I wouldnt say he "Ruins the lives of Children", more like teaches them *very* bluntly.

[@obd9660]

I think that title might have been a joke, or he might've been referring to the Sonic child characters.

[@NamekianG]

Cream and Charmy are the children whose lives got ruined

[@dad5draco]

Don't let this distract you from the fact that this arc was inspired by cheat code skins from Sonic Heroes.

[@NoNamex1412]

And probably wechnia too

[@dad5draco]

@@NoNamex1412 Isn't that just Starline?

[@rynobehnke8289]

Also the Walking Dead as it was a scraped Archie Story from 2012 mend to jump in the Zombie train that Walking dead unleashed around that time.

[@Help_Im_On_Fire]

@@dad5draco Yes. Yes it is.

[@umwha]

Damn, It seems crazy that these supplemental comics have more detailed character developing stories

[@ViroVeteruscy]

"Vector's Wabbit Waifu" Ah, a man of culture I see~

[@dalhillama5858]

"She's the size of an average human mother"

[@mistersp3753]

7:08 Wow, big moment for Vector here. Really nice to see him take care of a difficult situation like that and potentially save thousands of lives. This is exactly what makes a good team leader and a great hero.

[@winterdragon2004]

Gotta say that, as much as this ultimately backfired on him, I love that Cheese was immediately on the offensive. We've seen how strong he is in the Advance games, so making him out to be rather agressive when the time comes is a nice little touch

[@misterzygarde6431]

If Evan Stanley ever wanted to have Eggman temporarily written out of the comics to focus on another villain, I think having him be beaten into a coma by an angry mob who still remember the Metal Virus could work. Heck I think it could easily set up a storyline where a power vacuum causes many wannabe villains who steal Eggman’s tech to end up becoming major threats. Heck imagine some villains messing with other villains like one who has the Deadly Six have brainwashing helmets stuck on them that turns them into idiots on the level of Peter Griffin. One that controls Metal Sonic who briefly regains control to plead for help. I think it could make for a fun arc.

[@dantemustdie00]

Oh the Virus is by far the worst thing Eggman has ever done aside from splitting the Earth (Unleashed), and he nearly got infected himself

[@Da_Boeh7312]

Sonic's ability to shrug off life-threatening and mentally disturbing, traumatic events is absolutely bewildering.

[@lynxfresh5214]

MC privilege plus mandates that prevent you for being "too emotional" is a heck of a thing right?

[@Da_Boeh7312]

​@@lynxfresh5214 I mean, it suits him somewhat cause his carefree spirit and what-not but it's still kinda insane...

[@xxpandagalaxyxx5655]

His life is a cycle of “life threatening event, life threatening event handled.” Dudes just used to it.

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

He doesn't exactly shrug em off... he quite literally runs away from it

[@corruptedteka]

You'd be amazed with Ash Ketchum from the Pokemon anime.

[@bup4155]

Honestly these comics have been like the best thing to come out of sonic in a long time

[@nerotoxin0661]

facts

[@spence8507]

I agree.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Archie Was for Sure, till the pissing match.

[@bup4155]

@@shadowopsairman1583 the huh?

[@TheWraithOfMooCow]

@@golddigginboi2187 Mania came out over three years ago.

[@Blu_Moon_VA]

This arc in Three Words: DEPRESSION _also Shadow_

[@overse7938]

Ian flynn: *gets stung by a bee* Ian flynn: thats it, this means WAR

[@Help_Im_On_Fire]

Also not going to lie when Charmy, Vanilla and Vector got the Metal Virus. I cried for 2 hours.....

[@dantemustdie00]

And Cream goes into depression cause of it. But the worst tho is what happened to Tangle, cause Whisper get's completely shattered.

[@Help_Im_On_Fire]

@@dantemustdie00 Yeah. Also Espio got depressed after what happened to Charmy and Vector. If you pay attention to Espio after What happened to Vector, you can see him go through the diffrent stages of grief. Edit : I remember Espio literally had tears in his eyes after he saw Vector "Die"

[@starlight72733]

@@Help_Im_On_Fire Looks like he went through those stages real quick! :(

[@Help_Im_On_Fire]

@@starlight72733 Yeah. Thankfully both Vector and Charmy were cured though

[@veryangryboi4128]

I laughed cuz this saga tried so hard to be serious

[@megacrashthehedgehog5377]

Interesting fact, that forest fire scene was partially made due to someone asking Tracey Yardley to include their fan characters in the issue. But again, only part of the reason.

[@case_sensitive]

I can believe the fan character designs being used, but writing in the whole scene just for that seems a bit far fetched. Where is this said?

[@case_sensitive]

Actually I just realized you said partially so never mind

[@mechajay3358]

Sonic Fans: "Hasn't Charmy suffer enough" Ian Flynn: "No"

[@GreatFox42]

Cream is legit one of my favorite characters in the series explicitly because of stuff like this. She's simultaneously a grounding character to give a "normal" perspective on any situation, being a young child and all who brings a loose sense of what it's like to not be one of the bigger players, while still being a badass in her own right. Her debut here is exactly how I would have liked to see it. Especially since I've missed her a lot in the games (her and a lot of the other characters, really) it's cool to see her be important in some way again.

[@chaoguardian8971]

I can't say I was expecting this to hit the fan so quickly in just 2 issues and if you think it won't get worse... *Cries Internally*

[@thegamingembassy1543]

IDW did something powerful in this arc...they made me care about Cream and Vanilla. Usually, they are side characters, but Cream is pushed to step up in a difficult situation. Much respect to Flynn and IDW for the book.

[@dereknight861]

SEGA: Sonic and Dark stories can’t work hand in hand. Ian Flynn: HOW BOUT THIS?!?

[@tappertrust4308]

"social distancing is a thing, KAREN ,now you're stuck in a car cage!" Best line in the video

[@Help_Im_On_Fire]

SOCIAL DISTINCING IS A THING KAREN! NOW YOUR STUCK IN A CAR CAGE! - Game Apologists 2021

[@toopienator]

Love how he started the sponsor talking about pizza stuff for his room and the music for the sponsor was the Spider-Man 2 pizza theme. Like that. Nobody else would put that little touch in for a sponsor, but you did. Nice. The video itself is great as always. No need to say anything about that. Been enjoying these vids.

[@trika91]

I love how you keep calling Vector and Espio Charmy’s ‘Reptile Daddies’.

[@ThatBoiDarius_]

This arc just makes me want Ian Flynn to write the games more. I’d argue that this is some of his best work and maybe One of the best stories in the Sonic franchise Can’t wait to see more of it in the future.

[@runezunn6655]

Honestly, the Metal Virus Arc is so horribly long and terribly paced. Sorry to say but Flynn can't write good stories and if he did, he's extremely picky about it. I came from the Archie Sonic crowd who tried to give the IDW comics a chance and I can't see how the current comic run would be able to be saved unless there is a changeup. Fun fact: This arc was gonna be in the Archie Sonic run before that was cancelled. Glad that wasn't the case.

[@boombirdking2118]

@@runezunn6655 I think the virus was too soon and too extreme. There’s also no real damage because the chaos emeralds end up destroying it and everyone is back to normal, no long term consequences afterwards. Also Eggman almost destroyed the world intentionally with no real regret for it, that’s just straight evil and Shadow is justified in wanting him dead now that he’s not mr. tinker. Eggman was tricked into almost destroying the world during Adventure 2, and Shadow sacrificed himself to stop the plan he was carrying out. Edit: During the credits, Eggman even speaks to Tails about looking up to his Grandfather and questions if he really wanted to destroy the planet. Look up that ending credits cutscene.

[@runezunn6655]

​@@boombirdking2118 Exactly. I get the point of putting stakes in a storyline but this arc was simply too much. It was one disaster stacked on top of another into one huge angst fest. In this very arc, Dr. Eggman acted incredibly evil for what? I mean, while he is an antagonist, in his core, people know that he is not that flipping heartless. This Metal Virus in itself essentially threatens to wipe out potential future generations of Mobians along with other plant-life and so forth. He essentially makes it known that there will be no future had the virus haven't been rid of completely. If anything, this seriously is like legit Eggman Nega-levels of villainy, no lies about that.

[@moosesues8887]

My hero

[@paxhumana2015]

@@runezunn6655 , what if it was not Dr. Eggman, but, instead, it was Dr. Robotnik posing as Dr. Eggman?

[@rainpooper7088]

Honestly, I don’t think Charmy‘s behavior was out of character at all. It maybe would have been if it wasn’t motivated by saving a specific person and even then you could probably argue that he doesn’t quite understand just how quickly the virus spreads. He‘s five years old and not exactly the kind of kid to 100% do what his elders tell him to do.

[@rynobehnke8289]

I would disagree with you on that one mostly because Charmy did show more awareness about the dangers of such a situation and staying goal orientated in both Shadow and Forces (aka the 2 wars are poor Bee already had to go through)

[@rynobehnke8289]

@@vectorfan2 See your argument comes in it self with one rather large problem and that is that you ascribe the knowledge to Charmy that he knows the GUN Solders can take care of them self (even through its pretty clear in the story and even during many stages that GUN is losing a lot of troupes in this war) yet your argument for Charmy's action requires him to be dumb enough to not realize that anyone that got infected just got them self a Game Over as it will completely consume the infected person in a small amount of time. I properly would have been less annoyed at it if Charmy was generally looking for survives that he could fly out only for the Metal Flicky from the previous issue to get him. BUT him not understanding that someone infected it lost is just to much given the level of understanding Charmy did show in Shadow. And beside that did I list Forces as well for a reason that being that this action of Charmy relies on him wanting to save everyone even if it puts him at massive risk but which such an attitude would he during Forces have to confront Infinite sooner of latter during the 6 months as he in the Avatars flashback clearly saw that Infinite had no issues with blowing up civilians. (and I suppose its only fair for me to mention that I also come at this not entirely unbiased as the writer Ian Flynn did show during his run at the Archie Sonic comics similar problems writing for the Kid Characters that aren't Tails with a good Charmy example being that during the reboot era Charmy was written to be really scarred of Ghost despite him having no such fear in Heroes (and its not that Characters can't be afraid of ghost but unlike Tails and Marine is Charmy not suppose to be scared by them)) Also I would love to talk about how Vector in issue 22 just like everything else in issue 22 after the end of Cream and Amy's talk was badly written but as you don't want to spoil anything for anyone stumbling over this comment will I not go about that here because I can't really address it without spoiling almost the entire issue.

[@rynobehnke8289]

@@vectorfan2 Well you put it quite nicely and I also enjoy Charmy's writing in Shadow. But all of this beings me back to my problem with the Comic it was TO DUMB of a thing for Charmy to do as it was even with what little we have of him clearly shown that he would understand the situation and act less idiotic about it.

[@technicolormischief-maker5683]

How are GUN and Infinite comparable to the Metal Virus? Neither of those are threats entirely comprised of former civilians, nor are they particularly hard to understand like a virus is. Hanging back from them is a pretty clear-cut way to avoid the issue and isn’t going to fill the kid with guilt at having to consciously leave behind innocent people. Guilt which, mind you, consistently overrides logic for informed adults on a daily basis. It doesn’t necessarily matter whether Charmy is levelheaded under normal circumstances, because the Metal Virus is far from a normal circumstance. Whatever you think of Charmy, he has never been in a situation this stressful or complicated in this continuity and is clearly not equipped for it. That naturally leads people to make mistakes they wouldn’t otherwise. Also, I’d like to point out that we never actually see Vector share everything he heard from Tails with Charmy and Espio, just a few basic snippets of information. Meaning that Charmy was missing a *lot* of crucial knowledge. It’s entirely plausible that he just didn’t realize how quickly the virus took over, that it couldn’t be cured by conventional means, so on and so forth. (He also saw an infected Sonic getting along just fine, but going that deep into it just feels like semantics at that point).

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

"And don't touch any shiny metal people unless you want to be transformed into one of those weird silver street performers" I've been on the internet long enough to know there's a not-insignificant number of people who'd do that deliberately.

[@technicolormischief-maker5683]

Bug Catcher Joey 20 years later He was never quite the same after his brush with pokérus...

[@MetalToast27]

Wow you're first sponsor! You've grown so much! You've went from green game man to funny green game man with sponsors!

[@kaylemathewcomendador6964]

Damn, your having 0 tolerance for Charmy’s childish naivety in this arc. Honestly I didn’t mind it for some odd reason. Maybe because I found his weird reasoning for wanting to save as much people as possible somewhat justifiable here in a way.

[@polyman6859]

Ian just really loves to hurt Charmy man..... ALSO MY BOY FINALLY GOT A SPONSOR LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@polyman6859]

@@golddigginboi2187 Bitch what? The dude is getting money which means more content for us. What are you 7?

[@babsossom1224]

IDW had me weak bro.Shit was *insert Italian kiss* AMAZINGGGGG.(Really hope they keep up the good work)🥴

[@ThickSteven]

🤌

[@joseluissifuentes8639]

Wow, the IDW Sonic comics are so dark like Transformers Prime and the Transformers IDW comics

[@Gilbot9000]

So this title finally motivated me to go read all the IDW Sonic comics starting from issue 1 in a weekend, then binge all of this in an evening. These comics are *SO* rad. Thanks for the motivation, Nick.

[@SlashCraftJack]

You forgot when Cream pulled a Maria Robotnik, telling GEMERL "...Shouldn't they have a chance to be happy?" Cream is to Sonic as Maria was to Shadow.

[@MarioKartGamerDude]

Can you imagine if Sonic saw Tails and Knuckles get infected right in front of him?

[@SrPaisano]

Maybe we would see Dark Sonic again after 15 years

[@pizzahutkidman8806]

Ah, Charmy and the Chaos. It's intersting that they picked those two because really, they're some of the worst characters to get infected. A zombie thay can fly is more dangerous than one that cannot. Also poor Charmy, the kid has his gulit eat at him and then gets basically mawlled.

[@bubbleboi1122]

YEAHHHHH SONIC SPEED READING IS FINALLY BACK WOOOOOOO

[@dad5draco]

Aw, he edited and lost his heart. RIP

[@ThickSteven]

@@dad5draco ikr

[@bubbleboi1122]

@@dad5draco :(

[@shellyvision9693]

That is very pogchamp profile picture.

[@ThickSteven]

@@bubbleboi1122 you’ll always have a heart in our eyes

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

It's been two whole voice casts since we've seen the Chaotixs in there agency

[@FrostTheHobidon]

Ian Made it dark, knowing that they will be ok in the end.

[@navybluemagic8571]

This series has to be a game The perfect way showing all the characters in the immediate situation only to see almost all of them go

[@TimeturnerJ]

I love this arc so much for all the character spotlights it gave us! 😆 Especially for Silver and Espio. They were so good in this story.

[@lance2580]

"THE ZOMBOTS ATE YOUR BRAINS!" - Ian Flynn

[@ethejumper6568]

Plants vs Zombies Reference

[@littleguystar]

Remember kids, this was supposed to be an Archie story. And they chose to bring it to IDW with all the more innocent characters.

[@SuperStaticPro]

The title alone got me to click in 0.12 second.

[@justageode]

I like how Chaos Angel act 1 was used for Cream’s intro in this video!

[@nibot2101]

Cream is one of my favorite characters

[@olliesidaway]

Did anyone notice how Sonic’s enter scene was basically his 06 introduction? I was expecting him to say “Snazzy performance there”

[@infinityheart_tm9270]

Ha ha ha O N E

[@olliesidaway]

@@infinityheart_tm9270 gIvE mE BaCk mY gAmER gIRl S O N I C

[@KC_Garcia]

Imagine the amount of therapy the entire Sonic universe will need

[@HedgehogY2K]

16:20 the GBA Sonic Advance 3 actually shows a picture of Tails restoring Gemeral so that knowledge is absolutely canon, except Sega never thought about making a cameo of him ever. Even Blaze visited Cream's house yet no sign of Gemeral in the DS ever. It was such a missed opportunity.

[@lynxfresh5214]

Look on the bright-side at least Gemerl didn't appear in Sonic Chronicles (as originally planned by Bioware) he might've ended up like poor Shade... :/

[@HedgehogY2K]

@@lynxfresh5214 Oh yes, like that changes falling into no show obscurity. Both Gemeral and Shade never to appear in another game.

[@lynxfresh5214]

@@HedgehogY2K True but at least Gemerl still has a chance of reappearing in future Sonic games (even if its just a brief cameo) and IDW brought him back to relevance. Meanwhile Shade has next to no chance of appearing in ANY future Sonic media thanks to Ken Penders.

[@HedgehogY2K]

@@lynxfresh5214 Uh, you do know the archie comics aren't the same canon as the games right?

[@rynobehnke8289]

@@HedgehogY2K The problem he#s getting at is that the moment Sega uses Shade or any of the Nocturnes clan again can Ken Penders sue Sega again for "stealing" concepts he created for the Archie Sonic Comics (he can't right now because a Judge told him so after his last attempt) and so its often believed that in order to avoid another lawsuit (even if it properly would end badly for ken again) these characters became rendered unusable.

[@GamerTowerDX]

Look at our little boy doing a sponsor segment! Im so proud of him!

[@ssnnd6535]

Charmy deserves better he can never catch a break

[@evdestroy4121]

I love how Charmy is getting decimated and you're just laughing your butt off.

[@jess648]

he deserved it for being annoying

[@lightgivemepower6425]

@@jess648 he's a kid.

[@alvarosouza6456]

I still think that a zombotification meter would be an amazing addition to a sonic game, especially to an 2d or adventure style. Just imagine it stays in the far south left part of the screen,slowly building it up to 100% and every time you run it gets lower, but also, every time you hit a zombot it gets 0,009% faster, and you cannot stop it from going faster, because if you don't stop the zombots,your friends get transformed, and if you stop all of them, the next level is gonna be way harder. Of corse there could be a shop where you can buy from idk, tails maybe, some special rings that slow it by 1 or 2% Its never enough to keep you or the infection at bay, but its gonna be way easier way to deal with, just so it doesn't becomes impossible

[@WhoKilledLily4]

If done right that could be a cool game mechanic

[@cosmicfails2053]

18:07 Can we appreciate that, I know its NOT supposed to be blood, but, the splatter of red above cream as shes screaming we can't leave them Looks a lot like god damn blood splattering.

[@ThickSteven]

Oh thank god I’ve been waiting for this! Keep up the great work man!!

[@karenbonds264]

Even though I didn't appreciate that little "Karen" thing you pulled, to show no hard feelings I will tell you that the scene with the two fire starters ( 16:56 ) are OCs created by people from Venezuela that were going through some hard times. They asked Tracey Yardley to add their characters to the comic, and she did, hence this scene. Basically this is the first time a fan-made OC was ever featured in Sonic Comic history.

[@Help_Im_On_Fire]

That's actually really interesting!

[@paxhumana2015]

@Karen Bonds, now if they would only add in the Archie and Fleetway characters, I would be happy because they made the vast majority of Sonic lore, like it or not.

[@GameApologist]

Damn dude that's really cool. Thank you for the info!

[@rosiearchfield6040]

@@paxhumana2015 they legally can't is the problem, look up the ken penders lawsuit it explains why so much shit from Archie and even the main games got cut in the 2010s

[@lightgivemepower6425]

I mean, he's technically not wrong about the Karen thing. Seems like you get offended.

[@Kankan_Mahadi]

Breaks my heart a million times seeing Cream in that situation, but I'm impressed at what a strong character she's become.

[@8-bitsarda747]

holy crap, I loved the Battle for Angel Island, but this is just on a whole 'nother level

[@sonic5993]

Hahahaha, you're gonna cover THAT issue next and I cannot wait.

[@L337M4573RK]

If Charmy is now infected, does that mean that the metal virus is now officially "airborne"? Too soon?

[@AwdryFan1997]

Originally, I thought the concept of a "metal virus" was dumb, but now I'm kinda interested in the IDW comic. I've always liked Ian Flynn's work, it's just the SEGA mandates that got me disinterested.

[@lynxfresh5214]

Agreed, I get Sega don't want another Ken Penders situation but going from one extreme (unsupervised creative control with Ken's fanfics) to another (corporate mandates that keep harassing the writers) is kinda ridiculous tbh.

[@fours1524]

Ohhh boy. Shadow's the elephant in the room when it comes to these comics, I can't wait for you to talk about him because honestly? They massacred our boy.

[@friendlycryptid6797]

This just made me realize something- in theory wouldn't the metal virus be able to infect Chaos? (since they're a Chao).

[@shadowopsairman1583]

The Freedom Fighters need to be brought back, pre super genesis wave

[@superhedgehog6447]

I agree, I wish they finish the pre super genesis wave story instead of ending it abruptly for the reboot.

[@GameApologist]

Hopefully someday we'll get some Sega management that gives a damn about the extensive history of this franchise.

[@SilverJakler]

I remember hearing somewhere that even though the zombots don't eat or dismember their victims, the process of turning is extremely painful. If that's true then YIKES.

[@NoNamex1412]

1:00 "when me and my wife" Hol' up

[@Hyper_Drud]

This isn’t the first time he’s mentioned his wife.

[@AdmiralOctopus]

@@Hyper_Drud Didn't his wife also have a speaking role in the Knuckles Chaotix video?

[@Hyper_Drud]

@@AdmiralOctopus I believe so.

[@NoNamex1412]

@@AdmiralOctopus yea but like i don't remember him straight up saying it though

[@prebuiltcomputer]

I wasn't even listening to what you were saying, was busy jamming to the music 0:09

[@NoNamex1412]

Look at our boy! He finally has a sponsor!

[@xudokai]

4:29 lmao that's the attack on titan lifestyle

[@thespookymage6294]

Honestly after reading this whole arc, it cements to me why cream the rabbit is one of my favorite characters. She is just a little kid and probably the most innocent character in the entire franchise, but she is more of a hero then some of the main characters.

[@overse7938]

I always thaught that chao and chocola are made out of chaos energy, so its a tad but confusing for them to turn into a zombot

[@MilesProwerStudios78]

How has Tails not been traumatized yet

[@treynobles]

My boy is getting sponsors!! Let’s gooooo! You deserve it bro! Nice freakin video as well my dude!

[@shimshamjunior]

I wonder if they're gonna have to stop one of the main characters from beating eggman to death for making this virus

[@johnicthecronic3197]

Personally I like to think of it as Sonic's 10 minute timer whenever you sit in one place for 10 minutes or you spend too long in the level you'll become a zombot. That's my idea anyways

[@silverhero_gaming769]

Did you know that the zombot perspective in cover b is the frist zombot that team chaotix meets and is the zombot that appears everywhere in the book even after espio trapped it the zombot was even both fighting Vector and espio at the docks and was infecting charmy at the same time well it just followed charmy then went back to espio and Vector

[@silverhero_gaming769]

Yep but that's the metal virus we lost so many even a rookie I think I know this is horrorfing but I want to see zombot rookie from the trailer which I think is main rookie and see an infinite and rookie mini series that then goes to the main story

[@sharksuperiority9736]

This sonic arc was the only time the sonic comics have ever filled me with genuine fear And then it justified that fear and converted all my favourite characters into metal, simultaneously loading six shotgun shells into my heart

[@iain1541]

Another great vid man, loving this arc and it makes me really want to start getting the idw comics so i can experience it in all its glory.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

Always good getting these summaries. These comics are such great depictions of the characters, so far

[@jonasmcneal2382]

I actually don’t think Charmy was outta character- People seem to forget he’s just a kid with the best of intentions and ofc any little kid like that won’t think through there actions- So I normally cut him a break

[@3X3LR8]

Yay, nick finally got a sponsor, you made it man! Congrats! And about Ian Flynn, when you said that his writing is far from perfect you were right, I mean charmy and cream didn't have to go through this trauma. Damn.

[@user-gw3bs2in5i]

"This video is sponsored by Surfshark" Yeah suuuure and my channel is sponsored by raid shadow legends! Jk I love your vids man!

[@goldenlightning8842]

Congrats on the sponsor dude seeing you take off more and more with each video is amazing

[@zirsos8610]

Children *exist* Ian flynn: and i took offense to that

[@dekortezcorporation3991]

I swear if shadow gets turn into a zombot me is going to due

[@brunettebi4111]

Ah yes. My favorite conflict in storytelling. Traumatizing characters.

[@braydenb1581]

um, why does sonic run on grass, that would spread the infection

[@GameApologist]

They kinda address it later

[@braydenb1581]

@@GameApologist mhmmm guess you'll have to prove me wrong by speeding up that next video :) I just bought volume 1 to 3 haha. My boy is super into sonic, and I used to be (well really only the Saturday morning cartoon, underground --- heaven knows why as it was awful, and Adventure 2... anyways his sonic searches on my phone got your channel in my time line just in time for Mecha Knuckles, and here we are. I am hooked. Keep er up!

[@mommarobotnik5265]

Yoooo my man got sponsored! I'm so proud of you Nick :')

[@ch3zlol]

yoooooo nick got a sponsor! good to see, good to see.