Ian vs Žiga | Finnish Brutality 2022 - Day 2

The epic battle of Ian vs Žiga continues on the day 2 of Finnish Brutality 2022
Who will win? Will the AK beat the AR? Does it even matter?
The only thing that we know for sure is more running :D
Big thanks to Ian from ‪@ForgottenWeapons‬ for starring in our video, ‪@varusteleka‬ for the organisation and ‪@AdministrativeResults‬, ‪@BlueJeanOperator‬, ‪@RECOILweb‬, ‪@BlokeontheRange‬ and others for the company and great time!
Can't wait for next year :D
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[@ForgottenWeapons]

Jeez, watching my shooting side by side with Žiga make me feel slow as molasses...

[@milochindary29]

I feel like time has stopped when I compare myself to the two of you.

[@LOVEMUFFIN_official]

I wonder how many competitors were sporting WWSD-derived rifles this year. I saw more than a few: it seems to be spreading!

[@zowiefenderblast4602]

You killed it bro!!!

[@johnsheppard7175]

Nice calves bro.

[@baen1466]

In colder weather, molasses doth flow slow!

[@jonathanwarchild]

The camera man absolutely kills it in these vids. I’m really impressed how well he captures the stages and I enjoy getting to see all the banter and struggles between competitors.

[@VosperCDN]

There should be some sort of honorary award for the cameraman, for putting in all the work.

[@TheTendick]

I met Jan at IWA. He is dedicated! And also a nice guy! :)

[@brianhamalainen8817]

Yeah, it is so much better than many channels. Other shooter videos frequently have to yell at camera folks to GTFO of the way.

[@LuGer212]

If I say it once, I'll say it a thousand times - your cameraman is *incredibly good* also hats off Ziga, what a beast of a match and performance you had!

[@BeingFireRetardant]

That cameraman is the real MVP of Polenar, he just goes right under the truck with Ziga, and never loses frame...

[@PolenarTactical]

@@BeingFireRetardant Jan is a beast! He also went behind me in the muddy underground tunnel at the Infantry shooting competition. He goes above and beyond to get a good shot :)

[@IamOutOfNames]

@@BeingFireRetardant Jan, the camera gobling, making sure to record Zigas ass the whole time.

[@MsRandiCook]

These two videos are AWESOME! My knees hurt from watching! And Ian's kilt was really COOL!

[@PolenarTactical]

Thanks! :D

[@peteraugust5295]

My favorite part about this event is that while most of europes shooting scene is incredibly worried about beeing seen as "militant" and thus do not allow camo or anything mildly tactical, the guys at finnish brutality are like "Well, at the start of this stage you have to out under this simulated dead body and then stab his face five times with a knife - Hits in the right eye are bonus points - only then the shooting competiton starts" You guys are exactly the countermovement to the insanity in this world that our community needs!

[@Kesssuli]

Whole brutality competion is pretty much straigh SRA-shooting. Sovellettu Reserviläis Ammunta. Improvised Reservist shooting. So whole idea there is to have tactical shooting/action situations what soldier could encounter while competing against your buddies. So there is no need to mask it with anything to make it look like there is no military involvement. because whole thing is straight from military for reservist to hone their combat readines as hobby. SRA vs IPSC is pretty much orginal vs civilised version for masses.

[@jean-pascalesparceil9008]

I completely agree that the sport shooting scene in western European countries is very "we are only doing this for sport" oriented, as shooting federations' main objective is the World championships and Olympic games. Only in central Europe and scandinavian countries + Finland, where there are large volunteer reserve forces, the main objective of practical shooting can be openly "we prepare to repell invaders, and we enjoy doing it". This "recon division" could pass as a best "Ranger, Jäger, Commando (whatever one would name it) NATO competition".

[@lancekilkenny721]

@@jean-pascalesparceil9008 Absolutely correct.

[@matu9000]

Yah, in Estonia we got tired of the lycra-IPSC (Big and 1/2 size together look like mom and cild - nonsense) and adopted SRA. Got gear? use it.

[@cameron5802]

Žiga rolling over the bar in 0-course was so beautiful and elegant like a gymnast but for war. Definitely moving through the obstacle faster than most ways of mounting it.

[@PolenarTactical]

The Machine went before me and on first two tries he was able to jump the bar in a similar fashion as Ian but then he fell 2 times and tore his biceps. When i saw that i decided to do it in a safer manner :D

[@jay-firstofhisname]

watching all those flips over the bar really show how good the retention on those magazine holders are.

[@pc-dc4gm]

Props to the camera man crawling under the truck with you

[@PolenarTactical]

Jan is a beast, we call him our camera-ninja :)

[@IamOutOfNames]

@@PolenarTactical He's your camera gobling, while his work is obvious but he's rarely seen himself. Give him milk and cookies so he stays.

[@matkahenkilo8554]

This was impressive and I enjoyed both pats of the coverage. Žiga called Jari a true warrior, I would argue it takes one to know one. How he (Žiga) pulled trough with asthma attacks on the first day. And with the knee problems on the second, while still keeping consistent times and great shooting. No easy feat! Oh and Ian did great too! Sauna stage was just perfect ;)

[@theoldefirme4500]

That method of long distance running is called a "wolf run"; run 100 paces walk 100 paces and repeat.

[@davidh5903]

Bagged that guy in the first minute. As a tactical potato myself, I can't get over that god damn ass bar without swearing here, where does Jari and Co. get off doing this to regular folks?! This is great tv entertainment, well done everyone who was there, this looked like hell :-) Edit: Loved seeing the camaraderie there at the end, looking forward to more content fellas!

[@linus11vf1j]

Yari being recon really explains the emphasis on running. I was thinking "what if we made this for engineers?" Like have recon run through the waterlogged trench, and after each stage a bridge slowly builds so recon can run over the various states of bridge instead of through the waterlogged trench (or fall into it from bad workmanship).

[@keimolantio]

Yari --> Jari

[@LeinoSmaul]

or imagine the anti-tank guys... running with a 2-pack of apilas rpgs or nlaw sheesh

[@lukebritza3786]

Awesome vids! Brutality matches should be the next Olympic sport. Big ups from Adelaide South Australia!

[@PolenarTactical]

Thank you! I agree, it would be more fun to watch than biathlon :D

[@ErulianADRaghath]

13:16 🤣😂 Right after that bombshell statement from Ziga, I honestly thought Manka is going to tell us where to buy that delicious white powder. 😅

[@rkhale02]

I love this video, fantastic to watch. Ian of Forgotten Weapons is entertaining to see him out and about doing collabs, he always brings a cheery demeanor to these videos and the kilt is 10/10. He also showed me the Polenar Tactical channel incidentally.

[@zowiefenderblast4602]

Some of the best content y'all have made!!!

[@PolenarTactical]

Thank you! That's good feedback for our future projects. Is anything specific about this video that you prefer over our other content?

[@onpsxmember]

@@PolenarTactical Imo, besides the great filming, it is capturing the whole match atmosphere. It doesn't try to oversell and instead of all stages in a row there are those breathers that show your suffering and we suffer with you guys while we reach for a drink that' a bit too far to grasp comfortably. When there is something broken or those short interactions in between that aren't too forced like with Mike, Jari and the polenar crew it just goes down like butter. I missed those behind the scenes overall atmo material like sitting around drinking from a finnish sausage or some activity you try even if it's just a few minutes. That can be just eating in between stages together like we sit with you guys. Seeing Manca is always nice A genuine shorter action may be better than you have a few minutes till the next stage and you have to get some content. From your Lynx brutality I also watched the booth video from some guy filming. Last time was the first one and quite hectic behind the scenes, maybe you can have someone be there and capture some products as well. Btw, even if you're not Rammstein, you can film all the hard work and the teams setting stuff up. It looks good and sparks interest in the upcoming match videos.

[@VosperCDN]

@@PolenarTactical I'll add this one really gave a sense of how the combo of running all that distance, and the drive to give it your all on each stage left you utterly wasted, mentally and physically. That knee pain (possibly diagnosed by now) seemed similar to what I get on the right side also, Iliotibial Band issues. A sharp pain just beside the kneecap, towards the outside. It's really put a damper on my running, as 5k will set it off no matter how I try to avoid it.

[@BeingFireRetardant]

@@PolenarTactical Yeah, Ziga, to answer your question... In this video there's an honesty that came from absolutely being pushed to the limit. You didn't have the energy and the bandwidth to 'make content'. Instead, you gave us the events of the day, unfiltered by comedy, just the raw conversations. You had to ask your wife for a sock to stabilize your leg. That's as real as it gets. You were knee deep in the suck, you embraced it, you pushed through, and you even surprised yourself with how well you did on many stages. It showed an impressive work ethic and drive. Just like your interview with Samo and Ian, a while back, revealed your depth of understanding of all things firearms and the industry in general. It's good to see the different facets of what you guys bring to the table. This was less of a normal Polenar Tactical video, and more of like a Rocky movie, if Rocky was a war documentary. With all of the exhaustion and frustration, it created the purest form of content. The kind that resonates because it's just gut level honest. (And your cameraman needs a raise, but you already know that...)

[@PolenarTactical]

@@VosperCDN Yeah, it was the Iliotibial band syndrome (ITBS) I had it before, that's why i knew it's probably nothing serious and pushed through despite the pain

[@3CODKing]

the cameraman and the editor are god tier

[@PolenarTactical]

same person - Jan, our camera-ninja

[@smorrow]

Chaikovsky-tier

[@jauhoprinsessa]

@@PolenarTactical Camera-ninja has to be one of the coolest names ever for a film/editor work.

[@DJTheMetalheadMercenary]

PERKELE!!! You did a great job Ziga, huge props to you and everyone who attended FB2022, in Finnish the word for awesome is "mahtava", that pretty much sums it up. Cheers!

[@blakewinter1657]

You know, the point here about 'it's not really the rifle' is such an important one. People worry so much about 'Is this rifle better than that one?' when the truth is, if I had to guess, 99% of the time, it's going to be about the shooter skill and training. As long as the rifle meets basic functional requirements of course! Hats off to everyone who participated in this.

[@nickx8411]

Massive kudos to the two of you, and everyone who participated in this "dress rehearsal torture event". ;-) It has motivated me to work on getting in shape again. We can have all the tactical goodies in the world, but if our bodies are not ready, we'll have a very short go of it. :-( Thank you, gentlemen, for making this video.

[@davidreddington4381]

I am a man of simple tastes, I just saw the notification of my boys Ian and Žiga competing in the finnish brutality and I just clicked.

[@joe125ful]

Then you are too simple:)

[@docternoblex]

I feel like it wasn’t so much a comparison of the platform, rather a statement that skill matters more than your rifle

[@PolenarTactical]

@@kentuckybeararms true

[@docternoblex]

@@PolenarTactical what did you think of Ian putting his can on his weapon light?

[@alepa2357]

@@docternoblex it like made for it 😁

[@alepa2357]

Well, in the end that is the only thing that matters when not dealing with specialized situations.

[@nickmynuts]

This is awesome

[@PolenarTactical]

You are awesome

[@johngulyas695]

The Bloke cameos have a strange Alfred Hitchcock feel to them.

[@onpsxmember]

This one is for the birds.^^ - Norm

[@djsnusboxxx]

These videos where just magnificent to watch. The filming, the editing, the music, the shooting, pain and suffering. Very well done. Also I think ziga displays just the perfect mindset. I will finish, no matter what. And even with the running actually shoots very well at the stages. Very well done sir. 🏃

[@PolenarTactical]

Thank you. This is great to hear because at first i thought the video will much worse. I just didnt have any energy left, i was always grump, and was constantly annoyed by our camerman. Im glad that the video shows this in an entertaining and interesting way 😅

[@djsnusboxxx]

@@PolenarTactical not to worry. It was a great watch. And your grumpyness just came naturally after doing a really brutal event. And it made it all the more entertaining. 😂 Have some beers. You've earned them. 😂

[@feuerfrei7070]

My man easily got a stage win! Respect!

[@PolenarTactical]

Thanks! I'm proud of that one :)

[@Jim-cv8ou]

Big shout to the camera folk for willingly risking being flagged for a great tournage of an amazing event.This is easily the most inventive small arms tournament I have heard of.My respects to everyone involved.Keep the faith brothers and sisters.

[@thomas_jay]

I just love watching these matches. They are like the world championship in the tactical shooting division. Well done, sirs.

[@Qigate]

I did not think if possible, but I have more respect for the both of you after watching Day 1 and Day 2. Truly amazing !

[@je-rc2cl]

Bravo, gentlemen. You've boosted my motivation to step up the physicality of my own training. You both kicked ass.

[@StrangerOman]

Simply amazing performance and amazing video quality. I feel tired by just watching, the video really captured the brutality nature. Wholesome and epic. Thank you Polenar Tactical team, keep it up.

[@daviddiffenderfer6963]

u guys did a damn good job on this 1&2 versions.

[@daviddiffenderfer6963]

Need more fake idf jokes

[@seanwhite304]

Congrats guys . That was definitely very serious BRUTALITY Match for sure ..

[@ezyrhino]

LOL, "I don't know what SHIT is here" pointing to his knee. Also, the Run-Walk-Run method really works, but most people's ego gets in the way. Great vids, I love these!

[@thedangerzone9399]

People are oblivious to run-walk-run being taught in spec ops

[@baen1466]

That Teabaggin' is what got your knee, bro, haha.

[@NA8C]

What a good series of episodes.

[@VampirusX]

Ian in a kilt is just 😗👌 Nothing is manlier than a man wearing a kilt!

[@earlturner6023]

@CERBERVS shoo

[@VampirusX]

@CERBERVS Don't be so serious!

[@VampirusX]

@CERBERVS Haha ... I must admit ... it turned me on a tiny bit 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@VampirusX]

@CERBERVS good

[@AtlasJotun]

Very possible that the outside knee pain is irritation of, or damage to, the ACL. Gentle, dynamic stretches during the day and slow, deep static stretching at night before you go to bed and all the muscle heads tighten up. Can help a bit, and improves circulation for a better chance of healing. And you and Ian are beasts, Žiga! These stages look awesome, and all the extra running looks terrible!

[@PolenarTactical]

I had this before by rucksacking with a lot of weight and it's nothing serious, that's why i was just enduring the pain and pushing on. If my ACL started to hurt, i would stop. That could be a very serious injury

[@PolenarTactical]

I found it, it's called a "runner’s knee" or iliotibial band syndrome (ITBS)

[@odinewb]

Yeah felt that striggle of Ziga getting up as well. Awesome job to both of you!

[@Scout339th]

I'm about 7 mins into the video and I see that this is tarkov IRL. You tied a sock around your leg and had to pause and pop a painkiller mid match. Amazing haha

[@JoBlakeLisbon]

It's interesting to see the way they hold the pistols while running. Presumably they have safety instructions. The interview at the end was amazing. You guys looked absolutely exhausted.

[@anubian860]

They do that to prevent the pistol from flagging other people.

[@SargentGunnery]

That was an awesome run, Ziga, congrats!

[@PolenarTactical]

Thank you

[@gnomenorthofthewall1982]

Ziga is surprisingly good shot. Seriously impressive! Well done sir.

[@PolenarTactical]

Thank you! This was not my best shooting performance, i got too much penalties and that made a big difference in my overall score

[@joe125ful]

@@PolenarTactical And run faster the Ian too!

[@Yenecol]

Great to see you both. Thanks.

[@sigis72]

That is the most exceptional camera work I've seen hahaha , crawling under the vehicles after the shooter etc. you're a legend mate!

[@skullofserpent5727]

I'm thoroughly enjoying watching this while sitting on my couch

[@jameswagner2576]

Ian is a vibe and I'm here for it

[@TheNismo777]

Everyone who took part did really well!

[@thamomentum]

Ziga and Polenar team. This is by far some of the best 🔥💪🏾 content on KZbin!!! Not to mention, huge shout out to those stage design and this match! Really tactically sound!

[@PolenarTactical]

Thank you! This is good feedback and we will keep that in mind for our future videos

[@herknorth8691]

I wish these Brutality matches had come out when I was 10 years younger. I've still done two already, but it would have hurt a lot less.

[@johnnyharperscoutstable5386]

Stores looking great by the way 🐸🍺🔪🔥

[@VwDrake]

Sincere respect, Mr. Polenar.

[@wkkkkkk545]

Congrats to both of you!!!;) This is crazy challenge... I am still concerned that you both robots as you look so good after such 2 rough days!;)

[@googlesucksalot]

Wonderful! Thx for sharing the joyful suffering! And as a sidenote: it's great to see how with all the madness and fun you always practice excellent gun safety!

[@johnnyharperscoutstable5386]

Bummerino about that knee man. Better have it checked 🔥

[@PolenarTactical]

I had this before by rucksacking with a lot of weight and it's nothing serious, that's why i was just enduring the pain and pushing on. The medical term for runner’s knee is iliotibial band syndrome (ITBS)

[@Mongo63a]

Always great match videos from Polenar.

[@Goosht]

Man I am gassed watching this on my couch

[@johndilday1846]

Wonderful video, Ziga. I truly enjoyed watching you guys have fun while suffering for the sake of the viewers. I am looking forward to your next Lynx Brutality, and any other Brutality matches you can dream up. Hope your legs heals quickly. 👍

[@baen1466]

Good videos... its like KZbin only demonitizes the good channels. Keep it up!

[@kaveman8083]

I’m too distracted that there’s a Flannel Daddy body pillow 😂😂

[@rubezahlmountainworks7974]

I watched both today. Awesome work fellas.

[@SpaetzleOperator]

Me, thinking starting open was Brutality enough. Ian and Žiga: Hold my Painkiller!

[@joe125ful]

Only Žiga:)*

[@markyoung2981]

Just wow! Excellent work Ian, way to gut through.

[@northman77]

What you did while running, walking and sprinting is called intervals. It's totally normal to feel like it's kind of easier. Well done!

[@totenfurwotan4478]

“This last one was 22 and this one was 21….I don’t know what was happening!?” Also žiga “I stopped mid run to pop a painkiller “

[@markc5067]

I need a nap after watching this! Great job guys!

[@brando104]

hell yea guys. you guys fucking killed it. amazing job.

[@PolenarTactical]

Thanks!

[@danielforrest3871]

Both Ziga and Ian are bad asses, but I give Ziga for havung the cool accent and Ian style points.

[@benjaminmcvay9864]

That thumbnail tho😂 No kilt can contain a Scotsman

[@elementjoe]

Great job on the #1 and overall!

[@DUKWAK]

amazing thumbnail

[@entertainme7523]

that's a big censor bar

[@Jay-mv7xv]

Loved everything! Specially the uplifting music while t bagging the enemy!

[@BlackBladeGroM]

This timeline is wild. Here I am watching guys compete at an event that's essentially training for war against me and mine - while preparing gear for my own training exercise innawoods. It's a complicated kind of feel. Much respect to the competitors and the Finnish Reserve for doing this. I guess I'd better step up my game...

[@PolenarTactical]

Any training is better than no training!

[@legamaxx2752]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4GacmmLft2iY5o You're gonna get drone striked before you fire a single round, vatnik :)

[@BlackBladeGroM]

Why are you following me? Are you a butthurt balt from Butthurt Belt? What's the point of showing me this british propaganda montage? I'm a drone operator myself and using quadcopters to drop handheld or 40mm frags on people is one of the most wasteful and useless things you can do with it. In all likelihood, at least a month of time and 2-3 drones were lost in making this minute-long video of inflicting horrible casualties (5-10 dead, twice as many lightly wounded, about as much as I can get in 5 minutes of using one drone to guide mortar fires). Sure, it looks cool, like in a vidya gaem, but so did the Reddit Legion back before their barracks got Kalibr'd. At least the Finns are showing off actual relevant martial skills.

[@Korppi00]

That war only comes if you cross the border. So no worries man, keep yourself fit and safe.

[@LethalSpine]

Now y'all gotta do Slovenian Brutality with a bar crawl class. Air rifles and air pistols but after every stage you have to drink. Could be an absolute riot

[@FJRyder]

I want to make something like this at home (Idaho) Thank you for putting yourself through this and sharing it with us. Get some rest, and see a doctor about your knee.

[@Gopher7676]

Spitze, tolle Leistung! greate achiefement of both of you!

[@stevenkennedy4130]

"I don't care how it goes. I just want it over". Oh man, that was the best line! Thank you for the suffering, for our amusement!!

[@s.d.bobplissken5674]

May not have been the content you set out to make but I don't think anyone would complain about watching Žiga and Ian bust their asses in a friendly competition. Hopefully no long term injuries or serious chafing was sustained by either of you fine gentlemen.

[@slobmarley9070]

I wish I could try something like this, looks really fun

[@Scott.E.H]

You guys are absolute nutcases. Nothing here beats you guys shooting in your skivvies on day 1 though lmao that was something else

[@goldtdig2]

Žiga & Ian, bravo both of you!

[@ronin548]

Well done boys, I'd have to load up on anti-inflammatories, painkillers and everything else I could find to run just 3kms

[@adammorgan7874]

Awesome job Ziga and Ian. The camera work is outstanding as always. That looks like such a fun event.

[@dude126]

Finnish brutality looks like actual military brutality. Good luck civvies!

[@lancesmith5313]

What about a land navigation stage to simulate reaching and objective, or to rendezvous with friendlies, or intercept an enemy unit? Land navigation is a crucial skill of recon or RECCE.

[@PolenarTactical]

Check out our "Light Infantry shooting competition" videos

[@onpsxmember]

here: watch?v=VpxGbaEuWps

[@australovenatortomino_1741]

Gigachad Žiga here with the ''pop a painkiller'' strat.

[@gluemola]

PERKELE!

[@ERIKREID1]

I am tired just watching this. Excellent job to both of you.

[@SPECIESUNKN0WN]

Solid all around performance.

[@Maddog29]

Thanks guys, really enjoyed it.

[@zackeriahthurman3666]

Ziga with the asthma under better control the second day.

[@gunsandrosarymanfromthenorth]

This was awesome.. run run with the dumbbell it beat pump your heart faster... and your adrenaline

[@buff34x]

I think a QRF (Quick Reaction Force) division where the run is only a quarter mile to a half mile (400 meters to 800 meters) but right before the stage would be a fun middle ground. Each run path could be an unknown distance within that range and a slightly different path each time. Ideally it would end at a rally point around the corner from the stage where they get a quick 30-60 second rebrief of the stage before starting it. The faster they run the more of a breather they get. When I was active duty my team leader didn't care as much about my 3 mile (5K) time because that was on me for if I wanted promotion points and to be able to stay infantry. He cared more about my 800 meter time because by our doctrine QRF was always with in a half mile unless we had vehicles and that's what needed to be as fast as possible. We never ran 3 miles in PT clothes in the field, but we sprinted a half mile in kit all the time.

[@mercinary110]

good stuff you two. Ziga i need that Ak lol. Kudos to the cameraman

[@sonjasasa4172]

Svaka čast,amaizing,wow.

[@petesheppard1709]

Yep. That was brutal. I'd like to see some of the Usual Suspects run the Polish infantry competition.

[@StevenGarcia-im8rr]

I just can't get over the Garand Thumb body pillow 😂

[@BaerndXP]

Even though I really like beer I'd always prefer a Lonkero over a Sandels. Nice Choice, Ian. :D

[@scottbosso1123]

Really cool to see this match. Speaking as an avid runner and shooter myself, sounds like tons of fun and great challenge.

[@Skoogplay125]

9:37 Tarkov moment

[@entertainme7523]

😂