Which Drone? Phantom 3 Standard vs Mavic Pro side by side

[@IaninLondon]

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[@aeronca260]

Great comparison, Ian! I have the Phantom 3 Standard and wondered what I was really missing against the Mavic. To tell you the truth, for my type of flying (usually within a 700' - 900' radius) I think the Phantom is all the bird I need. 1080p resolution is all I need as my computer can't even handle the 2.7K of the Phantom. Thanks for the comparison video, I can rest assured now that I've got the perfect drone for my use at this time. Cheers and good flying!

[@IaninLondon]

Thanks fella ... Nice to hear and glad to help !!!! Cheers, Ian

[@sachmobeemweaver5245]

Thanks for this detailed video. The standard has done everything, and then some, of what I need.

[@InTheFleshInc]

I just got the Dji phantom 3 and love it, better than I ever expected.

[@dave9291000]

Just subscribed...That was the most straight forward comparison i've ever heard,i thought i would have to buy a real expensive drone to get a what i'm looking for,you helped a ton...thanks from Colorado USA ; )

[@IaninLondon]

Cheers Dave ! Great to hear. Was just in your neck of the woods the other week on my 3 week road trip for the eclipse... Fantastic part of the world. You will do fine with the P3S if range and portability aren't critical.... Have fun fella... Ian.

[@swashbucklingadventures9929]

dave wheless Go to the DJI store in Park Meadows.

[@liquidktm]

Great quick comparison between the two units, The portability of the Mavic and fast setup times really is a huge plus. I have a friend that has the standard and loves it, Both are great Drones, Thanks for the time you put into these vids, Awesome job..

[@IaninLondon]

Hi fella... Yes, that's actually a point I forgot to make; the props are always on with the Mavic; there's the extra time of screwing on the props each time you get the Standard out of its case..... Ta for the comps :) Cheers, Ian

[@dinobovo582]

Hi Ian, I actually have both of those drones and your comparisons are spot on...nicely done.

[@IaninLondon]

Ha! Thanks Dino! Likewise (obviously).... both have their place.... Ian

[@xray364]

100% agree Ian. The Phantom is a great drone for someone to get started with. I bought a P3 for $250AUD so smashing it isn’t so bad. Yes it’s big compared to the Mavic or even Spark, but seriously if anyone is buying a drone for a bit of fun and to learn on, you’re going to be doing it near home or transported in the back of a car, so it’s not as a big a deal as one might think. The only time it’s an issue is if you want to take it on a plane for holiday shots, but then again would a complete novice be doing that? I don’t think so. So Ian you’re right, get yourself a cheaper P3 have fun with it and if it’s still in one piece when you want to upgrade, it should be a reasonably easy sell. Afterall, it’s still what was a top of the line DJI product.

[@IaninLondon]

Perfectly put! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@andymilton6248]

Another nice easy to watch video delivered in a very agreeable style - good job Ian! cheers Andy

[@IaninLondon]

Cheers Andy!

[@glyndewis]

Nicely done mate. Loving getting to grips with the Mavik and looking forward to putting it to work this coming week during a Dunkirk Photo Shoot we have on Friday and Saturday with it filming the Behind the Scenes footage on the beach and in the studio. Portability of the drone is a huge deciding factor for the work I do as any bigger and then I'm having to decide if I take it or not, and if not then I'm definitely missing out on some filming possibilities. That being said if I do end up getting as much use out of it as I hope then I'm thinking of upgrading to the Phantom 4 Pro ... but in the mean time hoping DJI introduce some of the it's features into the next Mavik...if that makes sense. Thanks again mate...great video.

[@IaninLondon]

Cheers Glyn. Yes, in your line of work, you need the drone to be like an additional lens, not a major part of your luggage If you want to improve the camera, then you'll need to go larger and the 4 Pro or the 4 Advanced would be the obvious choice with their full 1inch 20 M pixels sensors. Still photos are where you will really see the difference, but both the 4 pro/adv and the Mavic will be fine for video. Good luck with the Dunkirk shoot. Cheers, Ian

[@glyndewis]

Sounds good to me...thanks ;)

[@i.k.7689]

Hello Ian in London, this is Iko in Seattle (originally from Germany). Thank you very much for this comparison. I am in the market for a drone and these 2 happened to be on my shortlist. Ultimately I intend using the drone in Search & Rescue, so range and size might eventually dictate me getting a Mavic - but for starters the P3 seems just fine.

[@IaninLondon]

Hi Iko. Glad to help you out. If you are looking to use the drone out in the field, walking, then the Mavic will probably be the right choice thanks to its small size. But be aware that all drones have similar cameras to your cellphone; quite wide angle with no zoom. Something 30 feet away will look quite small.... So unless you're searching for people in bright orange jackets, the help may be limited... (So maybe try a cheaper drone first). Ian

[@chriss665]

Thanks Ian, I will get the Antenna checked out, as I said I don't think it's a phone problem as the Spark has never dropped a screen image.

[@IaninLondon]

Do you have the full, proper remote for the Spark, or do you use just your phone? If it's just your phone, it's using your phone's wifi. But the Phantom is using a different wi-fi system via its remote. Either way, get the phantom's antenna checked; they're just a thin piece of wire. Ian

[@watermeloncaviar5959]

I have both. Started with the standard. The Mavic is a great drone if i had to choose between both I would say get a used standard learn how to fly and be responsible and then upgrade to a mavic when ready

[@IaninLondon]

Bang on.... Exactly my thoughts too.... Ian.

[@ccudjoe89]

true, but i mine doesn't bounce near as much in high wind, and ive seen someone elses more or less stay in the same spot in high wind. i think it might have to do with tweaking the drone behaviour setting in the advanced settings.

[@steveparsons5015]

This guys review of the phantom3 is spot on. I was thinking about upgrading from the phantom3 to the mavic pro but didnt realize the cameras are the same. So all I would be getting would be better range.

[@sstills951]

Yeah I feel much better about my phantom 3 standard now. I just started using it again and I still have a blast on my flights.

[@Rick-or2kq]

On the range in the US FAA regulation for drones is line of sight so half a mile is more then enough.

[@akiwiinswitzerland6214]

I don’t feel so bad now flying the phantom 3 standard. I’ve been flying now about 3 weeks and slowly picking it up.. it’s very addictive and I enjoy editing the film clips. I find with very little time and effort you can produce something watchable.

[@IaninLondon]

The Phantom 3 is fine!! It's range and size that differs but the camera and flying is pretty similar:). Ian.

[@PeterPan-wh1sg]

I have 2 P3S's that I bought new way back in 2016. Still going strong and I see no reason to upgrade unless I ever crashed one. As a bonus, I don't have a thousand or more bucks in the air. One of them sits new, unopened in its original box.

[@RavenHizonTech]

can i have the other one haha

[@davidgarston3353]

Hi Ian, I have the phantom 3 seem to have a lot of connection issues Everytime I go out, had the FC 40 prior to this no probs at all .

[@IaninLondon]

The Phantom 3 S can have connection issues once you go more than 400-500 metres away, especially if there are plenty of trees around....

[@mnstar53]

What kind of connection issues? A little more detail please.

[@mnstar53]

lol Not the only one if that is the case. I get the idea you have it in for Phantom Quadcopters.

[@IaninLondon]

Phantoms are great, but the P3 Standard uses a radio system that is prone to disconnects after you get more than around 500 metres, and much closer if there are loads of trees around. But the P3 Advanced and Pro don't suffer from that issue as they use a compeltely different radio system for control, as does the P4. All I'm doing in this vid is offereing the P3S as a much cheaper option ... Cheers, Ian

[@rustyshackleford3647]

Very cool... I have both of these and haven't flown either, yet. I'm a noob and have been practicing on cheaper models. (DX-2 and SG 700). I didn't realize the range was so short on the Phantom.. we're supposed to keep them in sight so I guess it's still ok. I will be the subject in most of my shots, anyway... or near whatever my subject happens to be. It is nice to know the Mavic can always get me to the far shots. Thanks for the great comparison video and 'cheers, mate!'

[@XploreAz]

Since the Mavic Pro doesn't have rear collision sensors, I imagine it would be safer to fly forwards and then reverse the playback for the reveal footage?

[@IaninLondon]

Absolutely! Have a look at my action shots video... I cover this very point.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ6mpn6IgJikmZY

[@kencarnley7101]

Thanks, have been considering both. Have now decided to buy the Phantom. My local hobby has some of these at a reduced price,

[@IaninLondon]

Great stuff. It's a great one to start out with as long as.youre fine with the size... All the best with it! Ian.

[@rafaelontiveros7450]

Being in the UK, you have access to endless amount of beautiful scenery, especially with ruins. Thinking about the Phantom 4 Pro V2.0.

[@IaninLondon]

Yes, plenty of desolate abandoned ruins..... The P4 V2 is an awesome beast.👍🏻

[@rcas350pilot8]

Thanks for this video Ian. You just pushed me over the fence towards a standard. Now I know why Amazon is selling so many of them.

[@IaninLondon]

CHeers Peter! It's agreat starter drone and way less money to replace if it all goes wrong :) HAppy flying!

[@Dan636]

Apart from size the phantom is better .. nice video 👍

[@craigjensen321]

Very informative video thanks for this it has been very helpful. Im not looking to use a drone as a hobby as such, but get some nice high shots on the places i ride my bike. Thanks again great video 👍

[@IaninLondon]

Maybe check my latest videos on the Mavic Mini....👍🏻

[@Sheebs2424]

You have some balls to be flying both at once and standing that close respect

[@IaninLondon]

I have faith in their GPS hold.....😃

[@Sheebs2424]

Haha yeah I don’t trust them that much lol

[@williamlitlle1308]

Interesting how much steadier the Mavic was. (I fly a P3)

[@Sheebs2424]

William Litlle yeah same I probably won’t upgrade phantom 3 is good enough.

[@williamlitlle1308]

@@Sheebs2424 indeed P3's are great in my opinion and, 2nd hand, reasonably affordable, I'm not paying £1000+ for something like a drone, batteries might become an issue but then there are pattern ones.

[@hunterrichmond4219]

Thanks for that Ian, think I will wait and see what it has to offer when it's released,

[@DroneHDTV]

Now this is a great introduction and very clear and honest advice. I know as I have tested most drones. I would say only for CAA compliance as the pilot in command. you can't fly both at the same time. Great video Subbed/liked

[@IaninLondon]

Drone Journey Cheers fella ! Yeah, TBH I only did the two at the same time thing for the video opener and they stayed in my garden at 6ft lol... Thanks for the sub. Out in USA at moment... Will get some more vids up when I'm back....Ian.

[@Reflex1845]

Great review, the Mavic was always going to win. The Phantom 3 however is far more robust, and replacement parts are very inexpensive, and being slightly less technical many could repair the Phantom or upgrade parts themselves. Would like to see the mavic vs the Phantom 3 pro, especially in the video and stills quality department.

[@IaninLondon]

Cheers! If it's down to camera, then the P3 Pro would win I think. Range would be close, but the Mavic will always win on portability and quick set up...

[@Reflex1845]

I just bought the p4pro, i usually build my own, I hate the phantoms and the way they look but i can't build my own quad with the camera, gimbal, flight time, the p4pro has. The camera is incredible. For a while i thought about the mavic, but settled on the p4pro purley on camera. i have diy tris and quads for blasting around. I think the p3pro is perfect for beginners, that have an interest in videography/photography. Also the p3pro has been out a while and has proven itself to be trustworthy.

[@LegionMizzy1]

I'm still nervous about pushing my Mavic to the limits. I've taken it out to roughly half a mile before, but I've had occasions where I've lost connection with my remote at a distance of 200 feet. One thing that I've yet to look into is the emergency return feature. Is it supposed to return to a home point (assuming that you set it) when it loses connection with the controller? In my experience, I've had to restart the controller and attempt to reconnect with it while it hovers in place.

[@IaninLondon]

Hi Aaron. It's not an emergency RTH. It's a useful RTH. It auto sets whenever you power up and is a fine way to bring your Mavic back, especially if it's a bit breezy.... Just try it out by pressing the return to home button on the left of the screen.... This is different from the lost signal RTH but are you losing signal frequently? ,Ian.

[@DoomerONE]

I personally went with the P3S as my first advanced drone because of price and because it does not have all the avoidance sensors. The drone forces me to "fly" it instead of just guiding it. I felt it was important to develop the core flight skills and then later move to something more robust. This way if the fancy addons didn't work I still have the basic flight skillset to fall back on in case of an issue/emergency. Plus at the time the second batch of Mavics that were made during the Chinese New Year were coming out and reports of poor quality and flight issues were pretty common. Oh and the P3S being an older flight system already had the bugs worked out of it.

[@noahbromberg3675]

JAS Aerial same

[@IaninLondon]

Fully agree. I think the sensors on the Mavic are a bit over played. You should be well up out of the way of things and they don't work on tree twigs which are enough to knock your Mavic down.... Range is the big advantage... But if you're done staying under half a mile, you should be fine and happy.... Cheers, Ian.

[@the_original_skytiger]

You'd upgrade immediately if you saw the difference. You can always put the P3P in atti mode if you don't want all the guidance.

[@the_original_skytiger]

You'd upgrade immediately if you saw the difference. You can always put the P3P in atti mode if you don't want all the guidance.

[@ChrisB257]

Hi Ian - interesting and useful comparisons. I got my new Mavic the other day but - turns out my phone and tablet won't handle the DJI GO4 - Grrr. So, going to have to wait and get a more up-to-date device... rather annoying. Almost makes me think I should maybe have made do with a P3 std!! Oh well - patience and hope to get flying eventually.

[@IaninLondon]

Hi Chris. Sorry to hear about your app problems; assuming you're Android, you may find it runs fine on your device if you download it from DJI.com Just because it's not listed on Play store for your device doesn't mean it won't run fine. I had to download and install manually for my old Lenovo tablet.... Be aware though that it may run slow or even freeze, which isn't really what you want when you're in the air... :) Cheers, Ian

[@ChrisB257]

Many thx for reply Ian. In both cases I downloaded from the Play store... but get a quite ridiculous ''pulsing'' dialog box which won't go and stops any progress. Phone is an S4 with Jelly Bean - I think that's 4.0.1 The tab is a Tab A - 6.0.1. DJI say both no good. Not sure how I'd install from a file got from DJI site - wonder if that's worth a try if feasible. May be I'll try and get an iPhone Mini with IOS 9 or better... downside is expense!!

[@IaninLondon]

My tablet is the Galaxy Tab 6 (2016) running Android 5.1.1. Go 4 app is listed on Play and it works brilliantly. It was £100 when I got it in April 2016 and I think it's a little cheaper now.... Hope that helps?

[@johnjosephreed]

Ian, thank you! Did I understand you correctly? When filming myself fishing from a boat, the Ph3 has updates available where the drone could circle me as a point of interest and/or follow me in the boat?

[@KrisNi]

Yes, the P3 has intelligent flightmodes like point of interest (you can set the surrounding speed, hight and distance). You can also tell to follow you (It will track your Controller, not an object), but then it won't fly circles, just straight follow (There's another app which will enable the object tracking mode).

[@ZachHollenbaugh]

Learned a lot, good video!!! Keep it up!!!

[@IaninLondon]

Cheers Zach !

[@rumbler900]

i have 2 p3 standards one i got recently the other flew 3782 hrs on 68 batteries in 10 years but the cam has died no crashes or hard lands with drone on no vid signal all 3 gimbal motors get like real hot if yu move cam it goes nuts till yu shut drone off its had a new genuine ribbon cable put in but no change . any idea where i could get just the camera its pretty easy to take off and change or are they bonded via data to the drone . ive tried flea bay i can buy a used drone for 180 or get this cam alone 260 wtaf

[@GiGsail]

Great job Ian. Excellent! Thank you.

[@jordanbaker8693]

Hello Ian! Been watching a few videos on the Mavic, the price range is higher than the phantom but personally I'll be using it to travel and document adventures! I just think the size is a massive selling point!

[@IaninLondon]

Evening Jordan. Don't blame you; I got the Mavic after taking the Phantom on a plane once... as mentioned, it was my entire hand-luggage... I got the Mavic soon after for trips... Cheers, Ian

[@jordanbaker8693]

Ian in London I also read that the phantom would cause more attention, with the bigger bag and size. Have you ever had any problems from anyone whilst flying the either the phantom or Mavic?

[@IaninLondon]

No problems ever. But I actively engage with people when they come over and I get them to see the camera view (which dispels any thoughts that it's just for spying) and they're always really interested. Ian

[@Ironitis]

Thanks Ian, useful information but I wanted a drone with a small form factor for portability on a motorbike, so the standard phantom seems a bit bulky for me. I recently looked at the Spark to, until I found out it has a 300m range over here in the UK. Oh, I'm pleased you managed to get your Mavic replaced. I lost a Hubson once - not the same I know, but I spent a good few hours in brambles trying to recover it. I'd probably still be there if it was a Mavic. Cheers

[@IaninLondon]

Hi ironman :) Yeah, if you're on the bike, you have to have the Mavic... And I did spend 5 hours in those brambles in the exact line of flight.... Never again :)

[@louiswelshwalkabouts2290]

The Spark with a controller has an optimum 1.2 mile range.. just using your phone as a controller, a lot less.

[@Ironitis]

Not in the UK, we're subject to EU airspace regulations which substantially limit the power. In the USA you'll get 1.2 miles under FAA power limit regulations. In the EU you'll get 300m, with the controller.

[@louiswelshwalkabouts2290]

do you have any links for this please? (not being arsey, just want verification as this will screw up my plans.. thanks)

[@louiswelshwalkabouts2290]

heres the UK DJI link stating that its 1.2 miles store.dji.com/product/spark-remote-controller?gclid=CjwKCAjw5PDLBRB0EiwAh-27MpxWxH7nRx9f4ptn42q4gKNFuW5B4h76ahI_5wGAmQCPD41661RVSBoC6HcQAvD_BwE

[@gerryr1893]

Brilliant reviews best vlogger

[@rogersgjuk2]

Great Video Ian, I have shared on my FB page and on my Louis Welsh Walkabout feedsPages too

[@IaninLondon]

Cheers as ever Gareth! Main reply below! Ian

[@Blitz0203]

Thanks for the very helpful review!

[@easternundergroundsounds6977]

I purchased the phantom 3 standard a week a go and it's great just want to fly it all the time, my only issue is it's size it's noisy and not very suttle probably draws more attention also a chore having to wind the props on and off, although I haven't flown a Mavic I can only assume it handles a bit better in the air aswell? if I had loads of spare cash would get the Mavic air but for the price I payed I definitely got a lot for my money!

[@IaninLondon]

Alright Stu. Yeah, that about sums things up; great bit of kit; large, white and cumbersome. And great value. check out the Air v Pro vid I made; esp the second one I did 5 months on. They go thru the pros and cons of the more expensive options. HAve to say, once you fly a small drone that folds up, it's hard to go back.... Either way, have fun fella. Ian

[@johnmelling9950]

I got my longest distance with my p3 std yesterday. Flying at about 300 feet over farmland I got about 1.3km The video feed went choppy as hell and froze up but I kept on going and eventually the controller disconnected and the bird returned home. I'm going to buy the argtek range extender so hopefully will get closer to 2 km with that. I absolutely love this hobby but I'm still a bit confused as to where to fly.

[@IaninLondon]

Hi John. 1.3 km is impressive; wide open spaces away from trees is normally your best bet. Not sure where you're based; if you're in the UK, use this app: drone-assist app by air-traffic control: dronesafe.uk/drone-assist/

[@johnmelling9950]

Ian in London I've got that app ian. What I meant by I'm confused where to fly iwas even though I'm not near an airport and within the 400 feet height limit, I just feel like I'm doing something illegal. Over the farmland where I got the 1.3km is all owned by my family so I have permission but in public areas I just don't feel relaxed because I'm over somebody else's land. Yes I'm in the uk, in the Lancashire area. There's so many places where I'd like to fly but I just feel a bit uncomfortable when people are around watching me set up and take off.

[@IaninLondon]

well a good idea is to remember the rules, that as long as you're 50m from buildings and people, and away from towns, you've as much right to be be flying as hot air balloons and paragliders.....

[@johnmelling9950]

Ian in London I never thought about it in that context. Am I right in thinking that you're allowed to go into that 50m radius of buildings and people when landing and taking off?

[@IaninLondon]

Yes John. The distance limits reduce to 30 metres for take off and landing; it's a good idea to have these rules to hand if anyone challenges you; a couple of printouts can show you know the rules and are flying correctly. They're outlined here: www.caa.co.uk/Consumers/Unmanned-aircraft/Our-role/Airspace-restrictions-for-unmanned-aircraft-and-drones/ Cheers, Ian

[@marioplus321]

I am setting off with buying DJI Phantom 3 Standard. Now, it'll take days to think it out;) but I am strongly towards DJI P3_

[@jeff0566jsm]

Greetings my friend I’m a 62 yr old Newbie to your channel...but I think you do spectacular reviews, that are both very interesting and quite professional, that said, I’m looking forward to more of your great reviews in the near future! Respectfully, Your Friend in Mentor, Ohio USA JEFFERY MERCER

[@IaninLondon]

Hello Jeffery. Welcome aboard ! I try and get a video our every few weeks... My latest one is on how to avoid crashes... Have fun and all the best. Ian.

[@IaninLondon]

That video is here Jeffery: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4vbp6x-m89rnbc

[@willbendler8623]

The p3 stander will only go about 100m in distance and about 200m up but the magic will bio about 3 miles with all the same tree and powers lines if you ask me the range is the most important part.

[@IaninLondon]

The P3S usually manages a good 300m - 500m, but you're absolutely right, the range and uninterupted flight of the Mavic is key. Cheers, Ian

[@coaldust01]

id only get that range if i was flying in a power station lol, you might wanna check your transmitter.

[@moonsman72]

Thanks for this Ian. Very informative. Love the range of the Mavic but the price of the 3 standard is very attractive at the moment.

[@TheDeadlyraptor]

Phantom 3 also only has GPS not both Glonass and GPS and lacks 2nd IMU and Compass as back up . I believe at the moment you can get Phantom 3 SE from Chinese sellers which is same spec as Phantom 3 Professional was 4K glonass for around £450

[@IaninLondon]

Hi Andrew. Yep, valid points... You can see in the video the Mavic is more stable when hovering and it locks on to the satellites pretty quick too....

[@fjmichael461]

very nice comparison, thanks for sharing

[@100949football]

I have a Phantom 3 pro which is being assessed repaired (sensors etc faulty) at DJI....cost £300. Would you suggest I go ahead with repair or have it returned - unrepaired - and go for the Mavic 2 mini fly more? Your advice would be appreciated.

[@obviouslytwo4u]

Fix it yourself. It's easy man!

[@NDprototyping]

Excellent review!

[@Soothsayer210]

Nice Video. I am new to Drones but i do hang gliding. I was wondering if a drone like the one that you have can be used to take selfies of me while flying. I know it can be made to follow you but my question would be would the signal be able to penetrate thru the top of my glider canopy while i am flying to follow me? Appreciate your thoughts.

[@IaninLondon]

Hi fella. There would be no issue at all with the signal passing thru your glider fabric. And the active track mode could get some great shots. But you're biggest issue is the concentration you need for flying your drone and your glider. And perhaps an even bigger issue is the fact the rotors could rip the fabric if it collided with you. If you were dead set on this type of shot, I would get a much smaller lighter drone with prop guards to make sure there was no risk of damage to your glider..... Cheers, Ian.

[@RiptideRigo]

That is AWESOME! I love the MAVIC PRO so much we had to go get one ourselves.

[@lyfhntr6562]

Incredible review, thank you

[@seeinglight]

Nice vid!! Have been flying the P3 for about a year now. Have really enjoyed it. My first real crash was due to the compressed video feed, you would think 720 hd would be sufficient, and it is, unless you're flying among technical and close quarters w/ trees etc. I had a branch literally jump out of nowhere and it dropped the drone into an icy snowy floor :-( I replayed the wreck several times and the video feedback didn't show that branch until it was 2 ft away. The other complaint is hovering and finite input. The P3 is amazing all things considered, but if you're hovering within a couple of feet of an object or person, you have to ride the controls (I noticed that was the case in your video above too). This also makes for indoor flight a little more anxious. The P3 gives a good image, amazing views via the gift of flight, but it would be so cool to have better and more smooth finite control. It seems once it gets moving it's really hard to curve its trajectory and speed smoothly. I've practiced and practiced. I get some great shots, but it seems to get away on its own a little. Not sure if the Mavic is like that? Also, the sensors on the Mavic are a great perk, but I don't think they detect small things like a tree branch or power line? Plus, it'd be great to have those sensors above, behind and side to side, even if they're limited in their detection. It would be great to set the sensitivity of those sensors, what sort or size of objects to detect. So, would you feel confident letting the Mavic hover relatively close between the tops of two trees (is it that stable and sure) unlike the P3? And are the controls more responsive in flight on the Mavic? For instance, if I'm doing a shot that sweeps or orbits an object and am trying to keep the object in the center of the shot, the input and flight results seem to vary some with the P3 making this difficult. I usually can get a good 180 degrees w/ a take or two, but 360 is nigh impossible. Thanks much!! Sorry for the BIG comment 😬

[@IaninLondon]

Howdy again. The P3 will drift; it relies solely on GPS and that lock drifts by a few feet all the time. The Mavic uses downward cameras when it sees objects below within 20 feet, hence it sits rock steady. Sensors all around wouldn't help too much IMHO; they protect against large objects, but not everything. Have you watched my new video on the top 15 ways to crash? I cover trees, powerlines and a few other ways to lose it... kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4vbp6x-m89rnbc Cheers, Ian

[@mnstar53]

lol You just really don't know much about Phantoms. They rely on three guidance systems, not one genius. What do you have against phantoms? Do you sell another brand?

[@mnstar53]

There is no way in the world a video feed can cause a crash. I don't know who fed you that nonsense, but you should stop listening to the immediately. Also, it is insane to fly ANY drone within a foot of an object and not expect problems. I don't care how many sensors you have, a gust of wind can cause it to drift a bit. Good Lord.

[@IaninLondon]

mnstar53, we're talking about the Phantom Standard here; it only has GPS for lateral stability; the compass and altimeter won't help much when you're trying to hover. You can see I love the phantoms, as most of this video is about how good it is compared to the Mavic.... Totally agree you can't be flying closer than a good 3-4 feet from any object as you'll always get unexpected drift at any time....

[@beav1962]

In your video, it seemed like the phantom was drifting much more than the mavic when they were side by side. Is there a reason for that? I am leaning towards a refurbished p3. Thanks.

[@IaninLondon]

The Mavic uses its downward vision sensors to help stabilise it when it's close to the ground; the Phantom is relying solely on GPS, so it is more prone to slight drifting....

[@the_original_skytiger]

By a Phantom 3 Pro, they aren't much more now and they utilize 3 different guidance systems.

[@beav1962]

Sky Tiger - just did a quick ebay check and the phantom 3 pro refurbished is double the price of the phantom 3 standard refurbished.

[@mnstar53]

I bought mine from Newegg about two months for $539 but it looks like they are at $749 now. Ebay is no longer a place I buy from for electronics. Lots of ripoff companies from overseas claiming to be in the US. Scrape up a few more bucks, you won't regret it. :) There is also a place out there selling them on payments, I saw them on Craigslist.

[@beav1962]

mnstar53 - thanks for the tip. I will search a little deeper.

[@louiswelshwalkabouts2290]

Hi Ian. Great video. Really slick presentation. personally, I think you nailed it. As you know on my Louis' Welsh Walkabout Channel I use the Phantom 3 Standard after progressing from tour grade quads with go pros slung underneath, & I am super please with the quality and flexibility it gives me. My thoughts; The Phantom 3 Standard, Excellent Value for money! Great Quality images (research on how to set up the camera and use decent editing software and its as good as you need I think personally this side of a professional necessity. It is a little bulky, I use a recently found back back skeleton that holds the drone, an extra battery and the props (you have to carry the controller and tablet though :( ) The best Range I had out of mine was 850 metres over a reservoir in South Wales with a Mavic Pro following all the way.. again, more than adequate.. however, there have been occasions when i needed JUST that little extra 200 metres to get close to a subject or detail.. I get around this normally with editing software but, the quality DOES suffer. The battery life is great, (be mindful in cold weather you will need to warm them up or the P3S won't fly). As you said Ian the intelligent flight modes are cool but I only use POI and Follow me.. However I do have track mode by using the paid for APP LitCHI which allows you to play and fly your missions without even leaving the home.. you just turn up at the location dn it flies the preset paths with direction, height and views already set in. The Magic Pro; My friend whom I fly with regularly have just moved up from a Yuneec 400 4K.. another good quality flying camera but he felt it was too large, cumbersome and just lacked battery longevity. His Mavic is just as you have said Ian. Compact, efficient and a decent battery life to boot. The camera is awesome but he says he can't tell the difference. As for the intelligent flight modes.. he prefers the track and tripod modes.. everything else he doesn't bother with. For him RANGE is king.. He loves to fly it to its maximum range and does so regularly without dropouts and loss of signal unto 5500 metres..we are different fliers though, I love the cinematic effects he loves the sensation of flying. one thing to mention, with the "fly more pack" (extra battery and bag...) he doesn't feel that the magic is safe in the bag as well as the batteries.. he says (and I agree) its uber snug.. and if dropped or banged what would the damage be. so he does carry another small bag for extra batteries and things like a power bar and sd cards etc.. I would probably mention the DJI googles for the Mavic.. I don't believe you can use them on the P3S. so if you are looking for immersive FPV experience thats the one to go for. the price of the fly more combo today is £1300 that is nearly four times the price of the P3S. Return to home on the Mavic is far more superior,, the forward sensors in collaboration with the belly sensors and downward camera gives UTTER (I SH*T you not) perfect location return to home accuracy to the MILLIMETRE. In conclusion. Both are fab. but unless you NEED 4K, unless you NEED 6000k range, unless you ABSOLUTELY NEED a small package drone The DJI Phantom 3 Standard is more than capable. On my channel I use it to good effect. I have put filters on it, improved the carry options and bought extra batteries not original equipment all for less than £500 allowing my 2 hours of flying time n relative comfort and freedom of creativity. Finally, I'm off to the states in a few weeks and my son has a DJI Spark.. from what I have seen this is my next drone,, as good a camera, more range, a little smaller and a bit of collision avoidance for half the price of a Magic. Ian, I love your on screen presence, you are a natural! haha.. keep up the great work. Happy flying all. Much love! Gareth

[@IaninLondon]

Evening Gareth. Great to hear from you and I fully agree with pretty much your whole summary there. That was the whole point of this video; to make it clear that range and portability are pretty much the only reasons to get the Mavic. Granted they're both pretty big reasons and were my own, but those may not be a requirement for everyone. The Mavic actually photos its take off point which is why you get precise landing. I nice touch but I usually hand catch mine... I got the fly-more combo and yes, the bag is very snug; so snug that I can't see how you can get the remote in unless you've got a stick-guard fitted. But it's well-padded and I'm pretty confident it's protecting it okay, but a slightly bigger bag would have been better. One final point; my feeling is that the Spark is not a great product for its price, so check out the specs carefully before you buy. The camera is really poor; much lower spec than the PS3. 15 minute flight time and its range is indeed severely limited; remember you don't get the remote with it so you're limited to using your phone's Wi-Fi. If you do buy the remote, then you're spending and extra £250 taking you up to £700 which is mad considering you can get the standard Mavic + remote for £1050 on some offers, or $999. All DJI drones seem to be stepped down for CE (European) use and the specs for the Spark are really poor for CE use, which is automatic based on your location.... 300-500 metres max. www.dji.com/spark/info#specs Anyway, ta for the good words; I like to have a bit of a laugh in front of the camera whilst getting the facts across. Interesting you're off to the States in couple of weeks; I'm off next week for 3 weeks; Eclipsing by any chance? :) I'm up in Utah, Colorado and Wyoming for a few weeks. Have a great time fella and chat v soon.... Ian

[@louiswelshwalkabouts2290]

Thanks Ian, I have (because of this, so thank you) realised that the range is only 300m!! absolutely no point now. I was willing to forgo the 3 gimbal Gimbal for portability and the lower flight time (batteries are cheaper) but the range is a deal killer for me now :( to say I'm gutted is an understatement. Guess I'm gonna be getting a P3 Advanced pretty cheap and better range and Camera but familiar controls and performance. LOVE... the locations you are going to. Me? I'm doing North Carolina & Georgia... then February North Dakota & Texas.. no Eclipsing for me sadly.. way above MY skill set. hahaha. Keep safe fella!

[@stealth6986]

Thank you for the comparison. I am actually in this situation right now. Debating between the 2. But considering your comparison and price I have made my decision thank you...Starting off with the Standard eventually uograde.

[@IaninLondon]

cheers fella! And glad to help out! Happy flying!

[@bassinwithowen6394]

Could you tell me the difference between the phantom 3 standard and the phantom 3 advanced. And is there that much of a difference in the range?

[@IaninLondon]

TheXBoxGamer . A better camera, and a hugely increased range as the advanced uses a different radio system for control. But you're fast approaching Mavic price territory and probably beating the new Mavic Air price too.... Don't underestimate the convenience of folding and small carriage. Suddenly you're taking it on trips everywhere..... Cheers, Ian.

[@LancerNik13]

Great video, what tablet attachment is that on your phantom 3 remote. Cheers

[@IaninLondon]

That's a generic tablet holder I got off ebay for a couple of quid :) Ian Eg: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-9-Tablet-Holder-Bracket-Mount-For-DJI-Phantom-2-3-4-FPV-RC-Monitor-White-/162387982415?epid=550759574&hash=item25cf13f84f:g:Q4wAAOSw5cNYmrRD

[@hondata05]

Does anyone know where to get the mavic for a good price in the uk

[@AlexeiKazakov-s7i]

Ebay

[@Nathan.Manchester]

Excellent Video for someone who is unsure like myself -I will get the phantom 3 - if I crash it it's not the end of the world - I subscribed 👍

[@IaninLondon]

Glad you found it helpful fella !! Cheers...

[@klausmohler9032]

Hi Ian, which gimbal guard is it at the P3. Is it possible to film vertically to the ground without the guard in view? thanks ... nice video

[@IaninLondon]

Hi Klaus. That's a generic carbon fibre guard off eBay. Doesn't block the view at all and is great at saving the legs from breaking if it crashes or drops to the ground from a tree.....

[@klausmohler9032]

Thanks a lot Ian and have a good night. I ordered one :-)

[@Joshmakey12]

Would a Mavic mini be a good option to buy or buy a used Mavic pro? I can get a Mavic pro for $ 100 more

[@IaninLondon]

I am still waiting for my Mini to arrive, but given its portability, probably the Mini. The P3 is huge in comparison.

[@warrenw273]

Great comparison. As a beginner I’ve chosen the standard after watching your video

[@IaninLondon]

Cheers Warren. Glad this helped you out; I still have my Phantom 3 S (although having just bought a second Mavic, I'm looking to sell the P3S now); either way, I'm sure you'll be very happy with the P3S as a first drone. Ian

[@Joshmakey12]

I’ve changed my decision on drones a Mavic pro or a phantom 4 I will travel twice in a year. What do you think I should get

[@IaninLondon]

Mavic 2 Pro had the same size sensor and range as the Phantom 4 Pro. But is a fraction of the size when folded. Its not just travelling but also storage and weekend drives.... M2Pro would be my choice. 👍🏻

[@IaninLondon]

Mavic 2 Pro had the same size sensor and range as the Phantom 4 Pro. But is a fraction of the size when folded. Its not just travelling but also storage and weekend drives.... M2Pro would be my choice. 👍🏻

[@mikepeuker]

thx for the comparison, very helpfull!

[@dk99745]

Nice video, the only question I have based on the review is the noise or how loud each one is. I typically do not see that in any comparison and was just wondering what your thoughts were?

[@IaninLondon]

Hi Don. The Mavic is noticeably quieter than the p3s but it still makes a pretty loud buzzing...

[@andrewandron7087]

Let’s not forget the Dji Goggles. Made for the Mavic. Definitely a big plus if you have those with the Mavic. 1080p, headtracking, drone controlling, wireless. Nice video

[@IaninLondon]

Cheers Andrew. I@m yet to try those out... Contemplating getting a smaller FPV little racing drone thought for that experience....

[@andrewandron7087]

The DJI Goggles are spectacular! And with the Mavic, they will be 1080p at close range and 720p farther away. They will connect through OcuSync, and not require a qire and also have many more feature than they do for me with the Phantom. But even now they are awesome!

[@stuartgriffiths7035]

Hi ian what do you think of the carbon props for the phantom👍🏻

[@IaninLondon]

I no longer have my phantom. But for carbon props in general, they're stronger and better when you crash, but that's about it. Any lightness in weight is not going to make any real difference.

[@seanshi2945]

Cheers mate, just got a standard to get my foot through the door

[@IaninLondon]

Great stuff Sean. It's a great starter!!! And let's you switch to Atti Mode when you're more confident to learn about flying without GPS... A major part of flying better in case of loss of GPS.... Have fun and take it easy starting out fella... Watch my other "how not to Crash" video:)

[@seanshi2945]

Yeah, I've been learning on GPS mode and trying out the atti when the winds are real favorable. But I've been flying around the northern California wild fires so I didn't want the thing to crash and burn ha. Keep up the good work!

[@IaninLondon]

Sean Shi Great stuff Sean. Watch out for fire fighting choppers and watch this video..... kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGKnnoeHireciqc Happy flying fella. Ian.

[@richytodd7485]

does the dji 3 advance has more features. on the app and is it worth the extra money. than the standard 3 and whats? the diffrence in the app

[@IaninLondon]

richy todd there is no difference in the app as it uses the same app. Only the phantom 4 uses the Go 4 app. But the camera specs and range are better. Compare the specs on the DJI page. Cheers, Ian.

[@richytodd7485]

thanks ian :)

[@bowdymisener]

I just picked up a phantom 3 standard for $300 to see if I’d enjoy it. Love it so far and this video made me feel confident in the purchase. Fewer bells and whistles but hell of a lot cheaper.

[@IaninLondon]

Great stuff !! Really pleased I was able to help.... Happy flying fella..! Ian.

[@CivilGuy]

Where did you get it for $300?

[@bowdymisener]

CivilGuy on Facebook marketplace. Perfect condition though!

[@CivilGuy]

bowdy misener wow I’ve never used that site before I’ll give a shot

[@DavidThomas-jy4gg]

At 4:30, when the drones fly away, does the colour of the phantom get better than the Mavic ?? The Mavic seems to get very muted colours, or am I missing something, regards, Dave the slave

[@IaninLondon]

Hi Dave. No, not missing anything. The colours did look better on the phantom when I shot this.... I didn't do any post-grading. Ian

[@gillesgenereux3254]

Hello do you have a take at the phantom 3 vs the spark. I'm on the edge between the 2

[@IaninLondon]

The Spark is, IMHO, a very basic and over priced toy.... if you need compact portability, then consider it, but by the time you have paid for the remote as well (Spark doesn't include a remote as standard and using your phone doesn't give much range at all), then you may as well get a Mavic... Cheers, Ian

[@bradbury2007]

Yeah I would get the ps3 over spark more fly time more speed more easier to fly in windy areas

[@HerbertDuckshort]

If you want a drone as a competent aerial camera then go for the Phantom 3. If you just want a long range radio controlled quadcopter then get the Mavic.

[@FenTour]

Great insight, I have just ordered the Phantom 3 as the price is so much less, cheers...

[@IaninLondon]

Great stuff. There's a huge difference in price and crucially the P3S allows you to practice in ATTI mode, which is a very good way of truly learning how to control your craft without GPS. Happy flying fella... Ian.

[@FenTour]

Ian in London Will be my first drone, so I think it’s wise to start here... Loki g forward to combining the footage in some of my future videos.

[@iandrones]

Hi Ian thanks buddy I paid £450 brand new for the fly more combo which is £700 normally I have the remote all is well👍

[@IaninLondon]

That's a great deal Ian.... Makes it worth it.! The remote alone is around £200 so you got the spark for £250....

[@bradleykirk2733]

Hay which would you recommend parrot bebop 2 or phantom 3 standard

[@IaninLondon]

Hi Bradley. I'll admit I don't know the specs for the parrot bebop; my advice would be to go the specs page for each model and compare. Size and portability may well come into play too..... Cheers, Ian

[@oldschoolgaming4763]

Great video! Helped me alot, just got my brothers old Phantom 3 standard so im keen on getting to know more and to learn about this drone. Subs and likes!

[@IaninLondon]

Cheers fella! Welcome aboard! Have a watch of my "top 15 causes of crashes' video then to keep your new toy in one piece! Cheers, Ian.

[@skypilot177]

You gave the max altitude for the Phantom at 1500ft. Is that based on sea level elevation? I'm at 2200ft elevation. Will this fly for me?

[@IaninLondon]

Hi Al. That's max altitude above your take off point... Look at my new video on extreme altitude flight... That should reassure you .. Cheers, Ian..

[@leonarddroneview6947]

I love my mavic ive had it over 3 miles away from home before

[@365drones9]

Great info Ian ! Cheers!

[@musicmachineplayer]

Hi Ian what is the likelihood of loosing a drone in air? Thanks great vid

[@IaninLondon]

Hi again fella... Depends... My Dover video shows how much can go wrong if you make the wrong decisions... They do have GPS but you can lose contact between controller and Mavic and then you'll lose it... Unlikely but possible to answer your question. Ian.

[@will7355]

I just bought a Phantom 3 Standard as a backup drone for £140. Seems to work pretty well so far, touch wood!

[@tomscholtens5]

can you still use the app? And do you think it is worth buying now?

[@bloodywilson1014]

Nice video, subbed!

[@IaninLondon]

Cheers! Welcome aboard! :) Ian

[@MarkWilsonRN]

Thanks bro. Very nice.

[@hogansgarage5451]

Hey i have a question when you fly your standard do you get the error strong interference detected if so does it affect your flight

[@IaninLondon]

Hi Hogan. I don't tbh. I've actually had that a couple of times on the Mavic. If you're getting that then try resetting the Compass.... And make sure you're not near any antennas....

[@hunterrichmond4219]

Ian, good vids mate ,very informative, there are some people you will never satisfy lol, just about to buy the Magic Pro,even though the new version has been released I think I will get set of quieter props and see how that goes cheers mate,

[@IaninLondon]

Thanks Hunter. They've not released details of the new Mvoc Pro yet (unless you mean the Platinum - which was little more than a paint job and different props & motors). Either way, you'll have fun. Have a watch of yesterday's video on the Air and Pro: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mauaZXutfsacoaM

[@hunterrichmond4219]

Hi Ian, yes I did mean the platinum apparently (according to get bids I have seen) the only difference is the props and rotor speed apart from incidentals,

[@Dylan-qk8ss]

What kind of lens do you have on your mavic? It looks protective!

[@IaninLondon]

It's just a clip on sun shield that acts as a great protector of the gimbal in case of crash....

[@foxhatadventures3840]

Hi Ian I'm going be starting out but affordability is key for me, due to this I'm interested in a P3Pro, or P4. (p4Pro would be amazing but need a lotto win first) However, is the P3Pro still a good drone ? ( taking into consideration it's getting old in the world of fast moving drones, just like smartphones) I'd like the Mavic but out of budget for me. Portability in not really an issue as it's just local flying, so can put it in the back of the car until I get to the location ? Additionally, Is DJI still updating software for P3pro ? Thanks for your Time, Keith.

[@IaninLondon]

Keith, the p3 Pro would be a great choice, but is that really much cheaper than the Mavic's insane range and portability? But no doubt the Pro has a different radio system that gives you way better range than the standard and a quality better camera. Nothing old about it........ :)

[@foxhatadventures3840]

Thanks Ian. I was hoping to pick up a P3Pro with accessories (spare batteries, props) for maybe £550 tops. I looked at the Mavic, "Fly Combo," with the extras, it's approx £1350. Mavic alone is just over a grand. I think, ( not 100%) but the 4K camera on the P3pro is the same spec on the Mavic? You may be able to confirm. As long as the range is approx half a mile, that should be fine for me. I do believe the P4 is much better, same as the Mavic. It's all new to me, there is so much to research......information over load. :) Keith

[@IaninLondon]

I'm travelling now but check out the specs for the camera on the DJI website. I believe the p3 pro camera is actually better than the mavic. You will easily get a couple miles range and that's going to be a great drone for you... Ian.

[@foxhatadventures3840]

Thanks Ian

[@the_original_skytiger]

Say what? P3Pro's have come down a lot in price. I bought a refurbished one with the same warranty as new for $529 American. Aren't the Mavic Pro's up around $1500?

[@waynedavies6751]

i have a phantom 3 cant afford the 4 or mavic pro at minute. dji are not doing the 3 anymore will i still get updates etc?

[@deathraydave]

I have both and mavic hands down

[@IaninLondon]

Of course Mavic hands down for range and portability, but if you can't afford it or are just plain scared of crashing your toy, the camera specs are pretty similar.... Ian

[@iandrones]

Nice video buddy! Also cool name being mines ian lol just bought the spark combo also have the p3 standard been a great drone no so lucky to have the mavic pro yet lol

[@IaninLondon]

Howdy Ian. Good to hear you've now got two toys to play with ! Be nice to hear how you get on with the Spark. I thought it a tad over priced for the features it gave you, especially if you had to fork out extra for the proper remote.... But hope you have plenty of fun with it fella !!

[@mitojo60]

Thank you very informative video watching all your vids I'm getting the drone bug thanks to you

[@davidmedina400]

Good work , really appreciate this video alot. God bless you and your loved ones.

[@IaninLondon]

Thanks David. If you're thinking about the Pro or Air, then this may help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mauaZXutfsacoaM Very best to you too Ian

[@nathanielhuff540]

Awesome video thanks for posting

[@superbracey]

Thanks for the review. I'm in the market for a Phantom 3 Standard or the Phantom 3 SE. The SE has 4K video and allegedly has a much better range. However, I've also read that in the UK the devices have a restricted range compared with those sold elsewhere. Do you know if that's the case?

[@IaninLondon]

Hi Superbracey. Yes, the P3 Standard has the shortest range; and it's true, when used anywhere in the EU, it reduces its remote transmission power from 27 dBm to 20 dBm which reduces its range by around half, which is a bit annoying to say the least. So in the EU, the spec'd range is 500m. I got it up to 800m once, but is prone to signal drop outs from 400-500 m. The Phantom Advanced and Pro have different transmission which givs you a good couple of miles. I'll b honest, I don't know much about the P3 SE as I'm not sure it's a genuine product for the UK. I do see its range is the same as the P3 S according to DJI's site, again reduced geographically for th EU. As it is, I am up for selling the P3 S in this video, along with its extra battery and full case. You can message me on [e-mail]. (Obviously no probs if your' not after the P3S). I would go for the P3 Advanced if you can afford the extra £200. Or start cheap for a bit whilst you learn to fly, then upgrade. Don't get too hung up on 2.7K versus 4K video; as I show in this video, it's not the be all... Hope this helps.. Ian

[@superbracey]

Ian in London Thanks. I may well email you in the coming days. Thanks.

[@northzero2390]

One more brilliant reason to get out of the EU, we get our 100 watts light bulbs, 1300 watts hoovers and long distant drones back. Win win :-)

[@riverbankfisher]

I own a Phantom 3 Standard, and routinely fly round trips just shy of 5 miles in huge circles, lasting up to 20 minutes duration, all using Litchi Mission Hub. I pre-plan the flights on my desktop computer, take the drone outside, send it on its way, then go back indoors to do other stuff until just 5 minutes prior to the drone's scheduled arrival, at which point I step out to execute a manual landing on a purpose-built table. Phantom 3 Standards are currently changing hands for as low as $120 on ebay, and I wouldn't buy any more costly a drone, even if I had the money burning a hole in my pocket. The Phantom 3 Standard is that proverbial diamond in the rough, for delivering spectacular range and imagery, on a tightwad's budget. Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to buy a Phantom 3 Standard TODAY. This tape has self-destructed.

[@IaninLondon]

Just remember you're supposed to be watching the drone in case of a light aircraft flying low, or a balloon flight, or microlight... But otherwise, top points 👍🏻👍🏻

[@riverbankfisher]

@@IaninLondon I live in a remote rural area where the only passing aircraft are at cruise altitude 6 miles up, with no helicopter traffic at all. The nearest DJI No Fly Zone is good 100 miles away, so my only worry in this neck of the woods, would be hawks.

[@johnm400uk]

Surely the Phantom 3 will go further than 500m? It doesnt sound very far at all. Does the Phantom 4 go further and is that suitable for beginners?

[@IaninLondon]

P3 will certainly go further than 500m. But it starts getting prone to signal dropouts. Some people manage 800-1,000 metres no problem. 500m is fairly far... far nough away to lose your drone from eyesight. I rarely fly more than 1,000m away with the Mavic... The Phantom 4 does indeed go much fruther as it uses a different radio technology. Ian

[@johnm400uk]

Thanks Ian, is the phantom 4 ok for beginner?

[@IaninLondon]

P4 is defo ok for beginners and people upgrading. Has a better camera than the Mavic but you're stuck with a large aircraft that is difficult to travel with.. Make sure you know what your priorities are... Cheers, Ian.

[@johnm400uk]

Thanks for the advice Ian. Ive decided to go with P3 after all. I cant justify the extra cost of the P4 when im just starting out. As you say 500m is far enough especially for a beginner like myself. Im finding just over 400 quid about the best price at the moment.

[@IaninLondon]

That's a decent price and make no mistake, you'll have a fine drone there that will take stunning footage for you. I suggest you get one of the flat gimbal guards off ebay for around £10 that clips and supports the legs. Helps to avoid snapped legs if it falls from a tree or similar.... Have fun and good luck fella... Ian

[@abitofeverything2254]

Cool review mate i decided on a Z5 stabilisation in 720p not bad for a hundred quid but you know I preferred the footage from the phantom m8 more colourful I thought

[@IaninLondon]

Yeah, DJI have top spec cameras...but the Z5 is an amazing bit of kit for the money.

[@abitofeverything2254]

@@IaninLondon yea fairly straightforward with a good gimble camera nothing but rain and to whindy here for to long