Oscar de la Hoya vs Fernando Vargas - [2/6]

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@IRVRCRIR22
@IRVRCRIR22 4 жыл бұрын
Vargas was and still is one of my favorite fighters of all time I still have the boxing magazine with Vargas on the front and it says I’ll never shake the hand of Oscar del Hoya... he was just not ready for this fight needed a few more fight to prepare
@MrDelagatti
@MrDelagatti 13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload! Classic match up.
@dmandiola77
@dmandiola77 4 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite trio of announcers...miss foreman calling fights
@subliminalsanctuary7832
@subliminalsanctuary7832 3 жыл бұрын
back in the days when Boxing was still a "Block Buster" (From 90s to 2005)
@vandammeazteka
@vandammeazteka 14 жыл бұрын
my favorite fight ever!!
@805nito
@805nito 15 жыл бұрын
from oxnard killafonia..!
@Bfjoll
@Bfjoll 12 жыл бұрын
4:28 Del la hoya using philly shell. I dont think I could ever get used to that.
@Ian2lo4u2c
@Ian2lo4u2c 12 жыл бұрын
ANYONE know any other boxers that appear as fast as De La Hoya on video?
@10dev785
@10dev785 15 жыл бұрын
yeah i remember this fight as well...this was when oscar was using floyd jr stlye of using his shoulder rolling. Oscar was being trained by floyd sr and oscar was so thrilled to use his new stlye of defense shoulder roll....but as you can see that ocsars shoulder roll wasent working quite as well as effective as floyd jr does it.... but mentally oscar was soooooo prepared
@nickloks
@nickloks 15 жыл бұрын
there were always 2 oscars in my opinion, the oscar that fought flat footed and the oscar that fought on his toes, jumpin up n down in rhythm, oscar post 2005 fought flat footed
@Trudragon88
@Trudragon88 14 жыл бұрын
i love this fight
@Ahmet1445
@Ahmet1445 14 жыл бұрын
4:20 What was DLHs Cornerman doing there?
@BoxerBeBop
@BoxerBeBop 13 жыл бұрын
God Damn Vargas was only 24 and he was already wrecked
@tuptugen
@tuptugen 14 жыл бұрын
@Shirashama Are you counting with Floyd being young also? That fight would have ended with Floyd being victorious again.
@sergiolcjr
@sergiolcjr 14 жыл бұрын
Mayweather's Instructions to Oscar: Prrrrrhhh, prhhhhhh, prrhhhhh! (lol...WTF!)
@ajspacegodzilla
@ajspacegodzilla 15 жыл бұрын
Ocar's best performance of his career
@MrSurelysure
@MrSurelysure 14 жыл бұрын
@Shirashama I'm not sure whether the old one wasn't the winner. hardly can anyone claim Oscar was beaten by the dodger.The both left the ring intact.
@Mattessj
@Mattessj 13 жыл бұрын
oscar shows how to pick apart size and strength......its all about the brains and smarts
@ajspacegodzilla
@ajspacegodzilla 14 жыл бұрын
@crazedmartinez Yes but the same spirit that makes a fighter great is the one that keeps them in the game too long. Most great fighters still believe they can still fight like they are 26 when they turn 36 and are all too eager to prove it.
@MrSurelysure
@MrSurelysure 14 жыл бұрын
@Shirashama Oh I recalled, when the fight was broadcasted in poland it was commented by Jerzy Kulej who was a glod medalist in Olympic Games held in Tokio 1964, and Olympic Games Mexico(dont remember the date) He and the acclaimed commentator both were certain Oscar won. Some talk 'bout power punches by F but O neither swayed nor had any marks where the punches landed?On a nearby airport?Pac is a different storyTake CareBRO
@GianXiesh
@GianXiesh 14 жыл бұрын
what happened to floyd sr when oscar was fighting floyd jr? i thought he trained oscar
@tuptugen
@tuptugen 14 жыл бұрын
@Shirashama Your comment about women beating and prison seems to me as a little bit off topic man. This is boxing...
@chivasceltics
@chivasceltics 14 жыл бұрын
@GianXiesh floyd sr was charging Oscar $2 million dollars to train him for the floyd fight but Oscar said he would pay him $500,000 to train him and he would give him another $500,000 if he wins. They never agreed on eachothers offers so Oscar hired Freddie Roach instead.
@saponumberone
@saponumberone 13 жыл бұрын
@StickyGreenProd42O oh so now you change your position??? you said mosley tested positive!!!! and i said mosley never tested positive but admitted in court to taking steroids!!!
@DcoyLeadScout
@DcoyLeadScout 12 жыл бұрын
Cus Floyd Sr trained him
@saponumberone
@saponumberone 13 жыл бұрын
@StickyGreenProd42O its ok to be wrong!!! shane never tested positive!!! never suspended, never fined!!!!
@Cornelius87
@Cornelius87 14 жыл бұрын
just between these two at that moment they had collected 8 world championships that were officially American boxers. That's why the U.S. always have more world champions alot of them are actually mexican
@crazedmartinez
@crazedmartinez 14 жыл бұрын
@nickloks well the first fight i saw that made me think oscar was done was against sturm. in fact in my eyes he lost that fight. he was using the philly shell defense and trying to fight at middleweight. flat footed and slow. it was down hill from there.
@kore3412
@kore3412 12 жыл бұрын
These were probably the last of the exiting fites of that era.. Now its just money n politics and bullshit!!
@MyTbilisi
@MyTbilisi 14 жыл бұрын
კაი მოკრივეა ოსკარ დელა ჰოია.
@monkeypies3
@monkeypies3 14 жыл бұрын
@ajspacegodzilla not really
@svp2010
@svp2010 13 жыл бұрын
i dont know why Oscar stopped training with Mayweather Sr.; ODLH was at his best with him as his trainer. When he fought floyd I could understand why not for THAT fight but for the fights after that? Makes no sense......
@joeclemm15
@joeclemm15 15 жыл бұрын
@Shirashama lmao...no he wouldnt
@jampop77
@jampop77 13 жыл бұрын
@MrRick1254 f you add speed and precision and a good chin, you're floyd mayweather
@crazedmartinez
@crazedmartinez 14 жыл бұрын
@ThisLittleBlackBook nah man. quartey was winning that fight and dropped oscar in round 6. i love how oscar threw down in the last round. that fight was a classic. but this was his biggest win by far. it just meant more.
@fredizzle23
@fredizzle23 14 жыл бұрын
@joeclemm15 Oscar wasnt even in his prime when he fought Sweet pee and sweet pee was the pound for pound best wen oscar fought him in his first fight at that weight . only reason oscar had trouble with the decision is that they counted the knock down and oscar steped on sweet pees feet and sweet pea moved them and oscar fell with the punch
@saponumberone
@saponumberone 13 жыл бұрын
@saponumberone Ok the NSAC never caught mosley using steroids!!! shane took the NSAC test and passed!!!! shane never tested positive by the NSAC for the first or second or any fight for taking steroids!!!! shane mosley admitted in court to taking steroids!!!! but he never tesates positive in any fight!!!! Why do you think mosley was never suspended??? if the NSAC would have tested positive he would have been suspended and fined!!! but since he never tested positive he was not in violation
@loueyikpeba
@loueyikpeba 14 жыл бұрын
@chivasceltics I WONDER HOW FLOYD COULD CONSIDER TRAINING OSCAR TO FIGHT HIS OWN SON???
@fredizzle23
@fredizzle23 14 жыл бұрын
@joeclemm15 wrong look at what oscar did to shane mosley in the second fight he neutralized him with the jab and landed more combinations and add to the fact that shane was on roids and has a better chin than floyd i think the punches oscar landed on shane would have tore floyd to shreds i believe oscar would have won he was just on another level
@wheelinthesky300
@wheelinthesky300 14 жыл бұрын
What's this? When De La Hoya goes to the ropes, he employs the Mayweather shoulder roll defense. Floyd Sr., guru.
@TEHWEEZY
@TEHWEEZY 13 жыл бұрын
I know you saw Floyd Sr in De La Hoya's corner.
@fredizzle23
@fredizzle23 14 жыл бұрын
@joeclemm15 castillo had better punching stats and %tage at the end of the fight and the judges just gave it to floyd so he basically landed more and loss. judah whoopd em for 5rounds than gassed out + he never got that knockdown counted when floyd touched the ground with the glove.
@fredizzle23
@fredizzle23 14 жыл бұрын
@joeclemm15 Oscar had more timing and speed and reaction and footwork and stamina so i think young oscar ko's or beat floyd by decision but he fought floyd at 34 so he was out of his prime and had come back from a 2year layoff i believe around there so yea floyd bearly won
@kore3412
@kore3412 12 жыл бұрын
Considering vargas was on roids it didnt really matter vargas wanted to shine to fast in his boxing career he never paid his dues like dlh and trinidad n the mosleys... He nvr really became the real big dog sad to say!!
@crazedmartinez
@crazedmartinez 14 жыл бұрын
@ajspacegodzilla roy jones jr. evander holyfield. james toney. All those guys should have been out of the game yeeeeeeeeeeears ago. Now they are tarnishing there respective legacys.
@ericdelossantos1
@ericdelossantos1 15 жыл бұрын
ferocious sqaud forever!!!!
@DecaMMM
@DecaMMM 13 жыл бұрын
this was wen boxing was kool and when Vargas didn't put on 100lbs.
@NicanTlacaWarrior1
@NicanTlacaWarrior1 12 жыл бұрын
I typed in "Fernando Vargas Steroids" and arrived here.
@bigsleep32
@bigsleep32 14 жыл бұрын
If Michael Buffer ever slept with a hispanic women do you think he rolls the R's while screaming her name? "Oh RRRRRosali, it's rumble time."
@johnny4463435
@johnny4463435 14 жыл бұрын
vargas was supposed to be using steroids but i don't see any difference in him here
@jedimind09
@jedimind09 13 жыл бұрын
@Shirashama correction he would have beat floyd and owned manny pacquiao
@shneew
@shneew 14 жыл бұрын
9:37....sounds like an ak-47
@Bassai
@Bassai 14 жыл бұрын
@Shirashama He just gassed out in that fight against Mayweather. Roach was right, Oscar could have beat Floyd if he just kept nailing him in the corner, as he was doing in the early rounds. Definitely, he would have beat Floyd if he was in his prime.
@23jvega
@23jvega 14 жыл бұрын
if de la hoya wouldve fought like this against pacquiao it wouldve been a bad ass fight!! but pacquiao beat that ass just like he did to cotto clottey margarito and once mayweather grows balls and fights pacquiao he will do the same to mayweateher
@fredizzle23
@fredizzle23 14 жыл бұрын
@joeclemm15 Honestly Oscar was 20times better than zab judah and Castillo both of them gave floyd trouble and stuned him so what do you think oscar would have done come on ..i agree floyd is very good but oscar in his prime was just something else man if judah could whoop floyd for 6rounds oscar would whoop em for atleast 8 or more rounds or even ko em cuz oscar was way better than judah and judah made floyds glove touch the canvas
@crazedmartinez
@crazedmartinez 14 жыл бұрын
@ajspacegodzilla He beat a guy on roids! who was natuarlly a bigger guy. and younger. de la hoya should have had one or two more fights then retired. he should have never faught hopkins or pacman. maybe after the mayorga fight.
@fredizzle23
@fredizzle23 14 жыл бұрын
@joeclemm15 im not comparing then shane was faster and better than floyd and fought better competition than floyd , but since there is no kind of welter comp right now floyd is the best and oscar and shane lost bcuz they were old and had little reflexes left to time and land any punch u see wat a 38yr old can do with a single punch let alone a young mosley .
@joeclemm15
@joeclemm15 14 жыл бұрын
@fredizzle23 First off, Punch stats dont always determine the winner. the clean more seen shots were landed by Floyd and FLoyd had better defense throughout the match. Second, The margin that judah is getting bigger and bigger. Floyd split 2 out of 4 rounds with Judah according to the judges. Then he won every round after that. Judah was given 3 rounds at the most out of 12 at the end of the fight...Judah didnt whoop anybody and he didnt "gas out" he just got broken down
@Flexb123
@Flexb123 12 жыл бұрын
Oscar boxed trinidad's trunks off for at least 9 rounds
@joeclemm15
@joeclemm15 14 жыл бұрын
@joeclemm15 The split decision to DLH was an injustice and a result of De la hoya hand picking the judges. The fight was under golden boy. Oscar chose the ref, judges, Floyd's gloves, ring size, venue, purse, weight..everything. Still lost. & like I said before, he entered the ring at 167. Floyd entered the ring at 148 after not being able to meet the limit at 154. If the fight was neutral and they were the same weight, Oscar would have been dominated.
@MrSurelysure
@MrSurelysure 14 жыл бұрын
@Shirashama HAHA LOL Floyd "Change" Decemberweather is constantly perfecting his defense. It is not going to take him much time to step in the ring wearing turtleshell and hide his head the moment he is attacted :) With time he's going to be so perfect that he'd stick out his head only to find his way to the corner when the bell rings LOL :) HI from Poland Watch Adamek Arreola
@REPUBLICANSAREBEYONDSTUPID
@REPUBLICANSAREBEYONDSTUPID 12 жыл бұрын
Vargas should've won this fight. :(
@hitenmitsurugi1943
@hitenmitsurugi1943 13 жыл бұрын
@SidEskorbuto porque fernano vargas aun con 20 peleas, ese fernando vargas que ves aqui, le partia en su madre al canelo en 5 rounds, el canelito bultito no pasaba del quinto con fernando, esos si eran boxeadores hechos con sus huevos no a base de publicidad por parte de las televisoras,
@UFOCurrents
@UFOCurrents 7 жыл бұрын
I love Floyd Mayweather Sr.!! Great corner for De La Hoyo on this fight. :)
@chrisgoon1627
@chrisgoon1627 12 жыл бұрын
Demanding Elroids Vargas
@joeclemm15
@joeclemm15 14 жыл бұрын
@fredizzle23 How did Floyd have trouble with judah and Castillo? Floyd beat Castillo twice by unanimous decision and Judah won 2 out of 10 rounds against Floyd. I agree that Oscar is better than them, but that means nothing. Floyd is better that a prime Pernell Whitaker and Oscar barely beat a washed up Pee Wee in which many people say he was robbed. I think Oscar won it, but it was super close. If an old almost retired Pee Wee is virtually even with prime de la hoya, then..Floyd...well
@joeclemm15
@joeclemm15 14 жыл бұрын
@joeclemm15 Not to mention FLoyd was at 80% health in that Castillo match. He hurt his back in training and decided to fight. When he was 100%....well you saw the rematch right? Dominated! Judah..Dominated!
@fredizzle23
@fredizzle23 14 жыл бұрын
@joeclemm15 And oscar beat shane in the second fight with Steroids if you dont believe me watch it . oscar would beat him i believe even tho mayweather is very good .look at wat he did to jeff mayweather
@joeclemm15
@joeclemm15 14 жыл бұрын
@fredizzle23 lol jeff Mayweather isnt Floyd Mayweather. And youre right I do think Oscar should have won the second fight with Shane on EPO. but he was still within even competition. Even Oscar said it. Oscar has recently said Floyd is possibly the GOAT. Oscar was given every advantage in the book to beat Floyd and he still couldnt get a win. On an even playing field in terms of weight, ring size, glove size, and random judges, Floyd would beat a prime De la hoya
@joeclemm15
@joeclemm15 14 жыл бұрын
@fredizzle23 Can you never again compare Shane to Floyd. As we saw May 1st, Floyd is on a different level skillfully. The fact that OScar is somewhat of a technician and boxer like Floyd and lost to Shane twice shows you what would happen if Floyd fought Oscar at 147. Like I said. Oscar came into the fight at 167. Floyd came in at 148. Still handed him his ass. I promise u if that fight was a welter...it wouldnt be pretty
@tuptugen
@tuptugen 13 жыл бұрын
@Shirashama lolz
@tuptugen
@tuptugen 14 жыл бұрын
@Shirashama Oh i see, a Mayweather hater not giving a shit about giving respect where it is due. I dont like Oscar nor Manny for example, but i am still willing to keep my eyes open. Try the same thing and look at both sides not only on that one you like. We now see how Mosley is shot thanks to what Floyd did to him. Before Floyd it was the no. 1 welter in the world coming out of one of his biggest wins of his whole career. I am a boxing fan therefore i dont care about fighters personal life.
@aduran91017
@aduran91017 12 жыл бұрын
I really wanted Vargas to kick De la hoya's ass that night lol....
@tuptugen
@tuptugen 14 жыл бұрын
@Shirashama I am not Mayweathers fanboy...i am fanboy of boxing. You are clearly biased so there is no way how could i have a normal discussion about boxing with you. Keep hatin and keep commentin...
@joeclemm15
@joeclemm15 14 жыл бұрын
@afuentes8822 Just cuz I dont agree with you, I dont know shit about boxing lol....u do know on the night of the fight Floyd weighed 19lbs less than Oscar? Thats the only reason De la hoya didnt get seriously hurt. What do you consider young Oscar? Oscar at welter weight or super welter Oscar? lol dont matter, Floyd one cuz he was smarter. Oscar wasnt smarter 5 or 10 years ago
@joeclemm15
@joeclemm15 14 жыл бұрын
@joeclemm15 *won*
@AbuGrabIt
@AbuGrabIt 13 жыл бұрын
What was that shit at :56?
@joeclemm15
@joeclemm15 14 жыл бұрын
@fredizzle23 Yeah he didnt hsve better speed footwork stamina than Floyd did. He had a better jab in my opinion and thats it. Keep in mind a young Oscar would fight Floyd at 147..thats the weight Shane beat him at. Floyd is a small Welter but still came up to 154 and beat him. Like I said Floyd would beat young Oscar. Older Oscar had more of an advantage at middle weight
@chony7
@chony7 14 жыл бұрын
vargass got fucked up :) aand vargas was on steroidss
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