No video

IBM System p5 550Q

  Рет қаралды 43,711

clabretro

clabretro

Күн бұрын

Taking a look at an IBM System p5 550Q with two quad-core Power5+ processors. We'll try to get this thing fired up and connected to an HMC, or Hardware Management Console, for remote management and LPAR creation.
Check me out on Patreon: / clabretro
Rack stuff
StarTech 25U Rack: amzn.to/3mEB7hS
Tripp Lite SMART1500LCD UPS: amzn.to/3KZW3Jw
1U 24 Port Patch Panel: amzn.to/3Nm0bFa
1U Brush Panel: amzn.to/3mExAA3
1U Rack Shelf: amzn.to/3oaDclT
Note: The above are Amazon affiliate links. It doesn't cost you extra, but I'll receive a commission which will help keep the content coming. I only link to things I've personally ordered.
Music by Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio

Пікірлер: 380
@theserialport
@theserialport 6 ай бұрын
How is the Linksys stack THAT tall? Amazing!
@redgek
@redgek 6 ай бұрын
You love to see it grow
@David_Phantom
@David_Phantom 6 ай бұрын
You could fit so much openWRT in that thing!
@lcrazy8l
@lcrazy8l 6 ай бұрын
Now THAT is a tower of power! No game genie or sega cartridge adapters hold a candle to that!
@sparcie420
@sparcie420 6 ай бұрын
@@lcrazy8li would consider a lot of IBM Power systems a power tower xD
@xsgt_silverx
@xsgt_silverx 6 ай бұрын
They are used as packing material or in the "lot" listings on ebay you usually have some Linksys hardware
@DDonkeyman
@DDonkeyman 6 ай бұрын
I'm eagerly awaiting the inevitable "I just bought a mainframe!" series.
@jfbeam
@jfbeam 6 ай бұрын
Technically, he has one now. That's kind of what those stacking cables are for.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
one day
@mcpr5971
@mcpr5971 6 ай бұрын
you have the determination of an archaeologist, trying to take us back to the life and times of these machines. This is great, thanks!
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
thank you!
@Stealth86651
@Stealth86651 6 ай бұрын
I love the aesthetic of those era/style of machines. Big, blocky and industrial looking.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
agreed!
@ErazerPT
@ErazerPT 6 ай бұрын
Was just thinking the same. Love it or hate it, useful or useless, nobody can deny they are damn charming. Let's call it "Industrial chic" :D
@heatedpoolandbar
@heatedpoolandbar 6 ай бұрын
Golden era.
@Megabean
@Megabean 6 ай бұрын
Me too, IBM just has a way with design. Even these days the new IBM equipment still industrial pretty.
@yamamoto65536
@yamamoto65536 6 ай бұрын
Agree, especially internal construction is beautiful, like Accuphase C-2810
@clownhands
@clownhands 6 ай бұрын
I worked in the systems group at ibm during this era by way of an acquisition. Many things at IBM were not leading edge, to be polite, but I’ve gotta give credit where due: their industrial design team was next level, second in the industry only to Apple I would say. I will never forget seeing the first prototype of our system with its new IBM industrial design aesthetic. It was truly a piece of industrial artwork. ps congrats on achieving justification for the 240V lab upgrade.
@Spans_
@Spans_ 6 ай бұрын
Almost 45 minutes of old archaic IBM server systems? Count me IN!!!
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
hell yeah
@pof1857
@pof1857 6 ай бұрын
IEC C13 cables can actually be smaller at 240V than at 120V, as they carry less current for the same power. Cables with C14 PDU end - C13 device end are standard in 240V DCs
@kostis2849
@kostis2849 6 ай бұрын
Correct. I am always impressed bu the ...girth of american power cables lol
@mattelder1971
@mattelder1971 6 ай бұрын
22:15 I'm fairly certain the reason for the adapter boards is that the normal SCSI connection isn't really designed to be repeatedly removed and inserted, while a card edge connector like that is much more robust. Basically, the reason is longevity when replacing drives.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
fair point!
@Dummvogel
@Dummvogel 6 ай бұрын
SCA is specifically designed for Hot-Swapping. So no, that's not it. My guess would be backward-compatibility. They probably used that connector for ages.
@someguy4915
@someguy4915 6 ай бұрын
Does this pre-date the SCA connectors though? Always seemed like those can take as many insertions as anyone would be willing to throw at them. Don't know if SCA was a thing back when IBM thought of these gold fingered edge connector adapters.
@stonent
@stonent 6 ай бұрын
Well I think that's the point of SCA drives is for repeated insertions. I had an old dual pentium pro Dell server with SCA drives. And some old SUN hardware I had used them as well.
@Dummvogel
@Dummvogel 6 ай бұрын
Also, Compaq did the same thing before they switched to the black caddies with Ultra2. They had a little adapter board to a similar connector like the IBM. I have seen that for 50pin, 68pin and SCA. They basically had to make those to achieve hot-plugging before SCA was a thing. (Put 304866-001 into google image search to see an example)
@altebander2767
@altebander2767 6 ай бұрын
The protective film over the switch is actually something parts manufacturers put on there in order to make assembling easier. Pick-and-Place Machines often use vacuum nozzles to pick up parts. If you have something like a switch, this won't work as you don't have a flat enough surface. Having a bit of capton tape on there will fix that.
@TomStorey96
@TomStorey96 6 ай бұрын
I'm going to take a stab that many of those bigger caps are polymer based, which means they shouldn't need to be replaced ever. The bigger pins in those connectors are ground to isolate pairs of signals from each other. The connectors themselves are modular and are press fit into the PCB (no soldering required). The modules are made by various companies (so they might not be strictly proprietary, nor interchangeable) and you can often find them stacked up in varying configurations in all sorts of high end gear.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
yeah you're probably right about the caps... still nervous though haha
@TomStorey96
@TomStorey96 6 ай бұрын
​@@clabretro A good indicator they are polymer (or to figure out which ones are) is that polymer caps don't have the + or Y shaped vent on them, although I think the smaller caps are harder to figure out because they never seem to have those markings anyway.
@SproutyPottedPlant
@SproutyPottedPlant 6 ай бұрын
@@clabretro😮let’s hope it avoided the capacitor plague problem and can survive a long time like the Sega Mega Drive 👍🌱
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews 6 ай бұрын
@@SproutyPottedPlant Yeah... IBM used the same bargain bin components as... sega...
@georgeh6856
@georgeh6856 5 ай бұрын
I stopped working on these machines about the same time yours was made. I vaguely remember that the High Speed Link may have been used to connect two systems together in failover mode. We had two systems set up in failover mode so that when one system went down, the other one would (hopefully) automatically take over. I don't remember much about that since that was not my area, but that may be some explanation for the HSL cards. This video gives me memories, both good and bad, of working on these systems.
@Kimppikoo
@Kimppikoo 6 ай бұрын
Hey, there's a sticker speaking Finnish =) "Laite on liitettävä suojamaadoituskoskettimilla varustettuun pistorasiaan" It means that the server must be connected to outlet having protective earth grounding.
@xazar0
@xazar0 6 ай бұрын
It says the same (or similar) in Swedish as well, my guess is that it's of scandinavian origin? Most such things tend to have the combo of swedish+finnish+danish/norwegian on them, how it ended up in the states is the bigger mystery!
@sidni100
@sidni100 6 ай бұрын
I spotted that too! Wonder if this machine came from somewhere in scandinavia because the sticker seems to have Norwegian, Finnish and Swedish.
@joz4111
@joz4111 6 ай бұрын
Yeah i saw that to.. that server prob was running in the nordic region at some point! Interesting..
@qwertymesa
@qwertymesa 6 ай бұрын
I have no idea why but your videos are beyond entertaining and interesting for me, never in my life did I think I would actually enjoy watching stuff about networking and home networking but here I am having almost watched your entire backlog at this point because your videos are truly very fascinating! Thank you for doing what you do.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
thank you, glad to hear it!
@movax20h
@movax20h 5 ай бұрын
IBM, and their 4-digit identifiers. And 3-letter acronyms. It is a tradition going for decades.
@stonent
@stonent 6 ай бұрын
JDE stands for JD Edward's an enterprise resource planning application. It's common to see it on AS/400 systems. And this P5 can run OS/400 in an LPAR. Hopefully the license is still there.
@DataDashy
@DataDashy 6 ай бұрын
These were the machines back in the days where if you have to ask the price you cannot afford it 😍 we were happy like dog with our tails having some p166 mhz commodity desktop in a dc as server, this machine was just a dream 😃 Nicely engineered as well quality what I expect from IBM and bet ya it still fully functional.
@chaseohara4781
@chaseohara4781 6 ай бұрын
The adapter plates are basically just for making it easy and safe to hot swap them. Most physical connectors aren't really designed for it... That then it's just easier to buy your drives from IBM directly. Funny how that works. 😂
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
😂
@jfbeam
@jfbeam 6 ай бұрын
SCA connectors _are_ designed for hot-swap. They may not have existed when IBM designed this thing. Or they wanted the ability to plug other things in. (I have an SGI branded FC array that can take just about any drive ever made if you can find the correct interposer board. The problem is no one know who actually made it.)
@horstlederhosen
@horstlederhosen 6 ай бұрын
Old Compaq Proliants had similar card edge connectors to faciliate hotswapping of HDDs. They actually date back to time before SCA. I had server with mixture of narrow, wide and sca scsi disks all with same card edge connectors going to backplane. After SCA became a thing on new proliant generations they dropped those custom interposers with card edges.
@ConnerWithAnE_
@ConnerWithAnE_ 5 ай бұрын
I have a clabretro addiction I will rewatch this video
@Joao46Andrade
@Joao46Andrade 6 ай бұрын
These machines are so fascinating to me, even if I'll never have any use for one. Your content is top notch! Greetings from Portugal
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
thanks for watching!
@repatch43
@repatch43 5 ай бұрын
Love your videos. BTW, that 'protective cover' on the dip switch is just a piece of kapton tape. It's put on there to protect the switch while the board goes through the soldering over and wave soldering machines. Usually they don't bother taking the tape off unless they need to flip that switch, and obviously they never had to.
@clabretro
@clabretro 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah some other folks mentioned it's likely there for the automatic soldering, makes sense.
@TonyCR1975
@TonyCR1975 6 ай бұрын
A PowerEdge 2XXX would look tiny compared to this thing! Btw older IBM hardware is always interesting to look at, great video!
@GeoLotMach77
@GeoLotMach77 6 ай бұрын
again a great video! I worked in many many gouv datacenters and those P5 where all over the place. Part of my job was checking air circulation in server rooms and remove faceplates in order to check air intake (some environments have tons of micro particules) and they were famous for breaking... and infra guys love them so much that sorted to things like tape to hold them in place just for the look... you can get a 240v adaptor that plugs in your dryer outlet and connect a 0U PDU .. I run all my servres and computers from that plug.. 30A available and PSU do run more efficient at that voltage..
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
thanks! yeah I was tempted to temporarily plug it into my dryer outlet haha. But I'll just run a new dedicated circuit.
@kenmurphy4259
@kenmurphy4259 6 ай бұрын
Love the GUI, takes me back to the late 90s
@dragunzonline
@dragunzonline 6 ай бұрын
Ahh so cool! I work on the modern day P series CPUs at IBM. Very awesome to see this being used. I actually have one of those P5 MCMs on my desk, as well as its Z series cousin.
@dragunzonline
@dragunzonline 6 ай бұрын
If you have POWER ISA or system machine. Questions let me know.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
that's awesome! yes I'll definitely ask if I need any help!
@RealEngineer
@RealEngineer 6 ай бұрын
Babe, wake up! Clabretro has dropped a new video 🎉
@yackyyam
@yackyyam 6 ай бұрын
The tape is so pick-n-place machines can pick up odd shaped things when the board was being manufactured.
@WacKEDmaN
@WacKEDmaN 6 ай бұрын
i was given a 'desktop' version of something very much like this, about 10 years back, i worked out it needed AIX OS.. but i couldnt find it anywhere..i ended up gutting it and scrapping it...still have the cpus and few other bits n pieces in my collection!..i was also given a Netfinity 5500 at the same time, dual P3 500Mhz.. thing was absolutly huge..full redundancy...all contained in one 60KG box! IBM really made their systems so well...no wonder the machines were so expensive.. theres a half ton of metal in there! :P
@TrolleyMC
@TrolleyMC 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful machines, love the PowerPC architecture, shame it couldn't get ground in consumer systems besides the old PowerMacs. Annoying how IBM just has that pointless proprietary connector for your hot swappable drives, you *totally* love to see that when replacing them. Interesting how that server actually needs 240v, when we got modern systems with way more than 4 cores nowadays running perfectly off 120v. Great video, Clab.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
I'll admit I was surprised at the 220v requirement, didn't even think to check.
@TrolleyMC
@TrolleyMC 6 ай бұрын
@@clabretro yeah it's something that you just totally don't expect
@doalwa
@doalwa 6 ай бұрын
This channel is beyond awesome, reminds me of simpler times when I tinkered away on old SGI, DEC and IBM gear. Always had a fond spot for those old Unix boxes ever since I started out in my IT job in 2001. Sadly, the business world already unified on boring x86/Wintel boxes back then. But you could score some sweet loot, since all the obsolete Unix stuff was being thrown out by the wagon load. Those were the days 😢 Thanks for fueling my nostalgia!
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yeah would be awesome to hunt down some old SGI or DEC stuff someday.
@m4dizzle
@m4dizzle Ай бұрын
Back when these were new I worked at a place where we had hundreds of them and the come from IBM in a rack already racked, cabled, and ready to plugin
@thelettuceclub
@thelettuceclub 6 ай бұрын
Genuinely didn't realize how huge this machine was until you compared it to its little brother. hahaha
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
yeah I was surprised too haha
@NenadKralj
@NenadKralj 6 ай бұрын
😅 (the moment he knew) 😅 when you're computer force's you too run 240V (got a love this kid a things) ... Thank you for sharing 🎉
@andie-retro
@andie-retro 6 ай бұрын
I worked on ERAM for many years for Lockheed Martin (original contractor) and when we were moved over to Leidos. That division was formally IBM Federal Systems, which is why we were a big AIX house.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
cool!
@DrTedEsq
@DrTedEsq 20 күн бұрын
I have used the HSL cables before. You are correct, they are for connecting multiple servers together in a NUMA (non-uniform memory access) configuration. It allows you to grow your computer by adding hardware directly to your main system, rather than as a farm. I used them both on IBM Power 6 systems and their x445 system from the mid-2000's.
@MakerBlaker
@MakerBlaker 6 ай бұрын
Seeing this older equipment back in action is just awesome! Keep up the great work.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
thanks!
@cheng-gangwang1557
@cheng-gangwang1557 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful inner and external design. 64GB DDR2 RAM in 2007! Incredible capacity in that time.My High end laptop had 1GB RAM and super workstation had 2GB RAM in 2007 but the general consumer PC had 128MB RAM only.
@dross1705
@dross1705 6 ай бұрын
As Tim the tool man Taylor once said, “what do we need? More power!”
@ozox1
@ozox1 6 ай бұрын
Always love seeing your videos, theyve actuslly inspired me to pick up some servers of my own! I got a poweredge R620, proliant DL360 and DL380 for 200 bucks total! (Australian) im really excited to start learning to use them and get them online!
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
very cool, that's a pretty good deal!
@ZenIsFluffy
@ZenIsFluffy 6 ай бұрын
We have a Power 8 system at work and internally there's quite a lot of similarities. IBMs lineage is always intriguing to me. Love the video as always!
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
very cool! yeah the lineage is fascinating, one of the reasons I really like these p series machines
@albina.henriksson2326
@albina.henriksson2326 3 ай бұрын
The sticker at 13:37 says "The device must be connected to a grounded outlet" in Swedish, Norwegian and Finnish. Happy to help.
@The_Electronic_Beard
@The_Electronic_Beard 6 ай бұрын
More IBM goodness! Yay!
@Deraco1
@Deraco1 6 ай бұрын
This is awesome. Gives me some insight into an IBM server that is at one of our clients on how mainframes work. Thanks!
@miked4377
@miked4377 6 ай бұрын
your a genius at this...I love seeing how you get these machines up and running...be careful doing the 220volt project! can't wait for the next one.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
thanks!
@redashrajal
@redashrajal 6 ай бұрын
That server is awesome. Thanks for sharing the info.
@markskanal
@markskanal 6 ай бұрын
I operate an HP Proliant DL 380e, built in 2009 till now, the best hardware i ever bought :)
@Connor-Pilling
@Connor-Pilling 6 ай бұрын
Love these videos taking me back in time.
@Redd00
@Redd00 6 ай бұрын
I thank the world for another clabretro video on this wonderful day!
@makceg
@makceg 6 ай бұрын
actively used one for kernel driver automatic testing, LPAR was great thing from mainframe era, had one half for SUSE ppc and another for RHEL, so nice
@TheJonathanc82
@TheJonathanc82 6 ай бұрын
Love these systems! First financial institution I worked for ran our core platform on P5 series machines.
@TheJonathanc82
@TheJonathanc82 6 ай бұрын
And yeah, these machines expect you to have 220v/30A data center power to run. I ran the JS22V blades in a blade center S chassis and the power requirements were even nuttier.
@sohigh7433
@sohigh7433 6 ай бұрын
Built like a tank. A modular one. Very clean unit too.
@FaithyJo
@FaithyJo 6 ай бұрын
My Friday night is now complete 🙂
@user-gb7sl7sw3u
@user-gb7sl7sw3u 15 күн бұрын
dude i love that you are just like me literally, the fans "i wonder how these will sound" and the second server on top itd definitely be more fun xD i can actually understand how everything works you are very visual with it and thats awesome. i dont see that much. we should definitely do something haha it would be a great video.
@theminer49erz
@theminer49erz 6 ай бұрын
That is so pretty!!! LOL you just commented on "it's stunning good looks" as I wrote that! Man, I would love to find some of the empty cases. Stick a Zimaboard behind it via some LED and I/O expansions. Could rig up hot swaps to SATA. VERY COOL! I have a 23" server rack with metal sides that pop off and a tinted plexi door. I had 19" rigged up in it with gratuitous rack equipment and servers, but it was too much power. I use a Zimaboard now mostly with a crossfire build on standby for any hardcore computin. Im actually using it as a 3d printer enclosure currently. I insulated it with rockwool acoustic tiles that fit right in the sides without any fasteners! It's perfect! Still... I miss my massive rack sometimes 😊
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
a face plate all hooked up like that would be cool! kinda like a PiDP-11
@bunter6
@bunter6 6 ай бұрын
I think the hsl links are so you can cluster multiple systems together a bit like what infiniband does. Ho did something similar with the dl980 which was essentially two dl580's clustered together with a proprietary link.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
yeah basically I think, after some further research there are various Expansion Units you can buy, such as a PCI unit for more cards in large LPAR setups
@NikDoof
@NikDoof 6 ай бұрын
Oh, JDE? I'd put money on that being JD Edwards, or as (I think) it's called now IBM OneWorld. I worked in a place with a relatively modern iSeries system a few years ago, and the pSeries hardware is interchangeable with the iSeries if I remember correctly. Its massively complex but amazingly powerful.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
someone else mentioned JD Edwards as well, I bet you're right!
@GeoffSeeley
@GeoffSeeley 6 ай бұрын
Came to comment the same, JD Edwards. Looks like a Development, Prod, Prod Learning (Training)? and an an after/fore thought named TEST partition.
@KurtisRader
@KurtisRader 6 ай бұрын
I worked for Sequent Computer Systems as a level 3 support engineer (doing mostly kernel crash analysis of Sequent's DYNIX/3 and DYNIX/ptx Unix like OS's and Linux) when IBM bought that company in the early 2000's. Which meant we ended up with a bunch of gear like the p5 servers you discuss in this video (albeit x86_64 and similar rather than Power5). I was impressed by the quality of those servers, but even at the time didn't really understand how customers justified the price. When I went to work at Google in their data center automation team in 2007 and started visiting Google's data centers it was immediately obvious that using cheap hardware that has no redundancy and dealing with server failures in software makes a lot more economic sense.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
Very cool! and yeah, the absolute plummet in x86 prices and an increase in capabilities back then definitely made it the way to go.
@richardjarvisiii
@richardjarvisiii 5 ай бұрын
JDE partitions were probably running a JD Edward's Oracle database. I used to work for a company that ran JD Edward's on an IBM iSeries.
@clabretro
@clabretro 5 ай бұрын
I think that's correct!
@firemarshal1bill
@firemarshal1bill 6 ай бұрын
Looking forward to see your lab upgrades to power beats like this!
@Sungak_A
@Sungak_A 6 ай бұрын
Alternate serial console access: If you have that V240 up and running (and is running Solaris 6/8, maybe 10 IIRC), then you can connect the 9-pin serial on the back of the V240 to your target host (via 'null modem' or 'laplink' serial cable). Then (if Solaris defaults weren't changed) run 'tip hardwire.'' I used to buy and hand out those dual-headed Belkin serial cables for co-workers, at a time that felt like an age ago (pre-Y2K). I still have mine stowed away in my cables kit (previously lived in the car), alongside an *original* blue Laplink cable. LOL at that FC connector btw, some Sun models used those drives, they sucked IMO due to the rarity.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I had it hooked up to a little Lenovo Linux box, but once it's over in the rack I actually have an MRV secure console I'll be able to use.
@pavelvrasskii1359
@pavelvrasskii1359 6 ай бұрын
new video!!! so happy! best Friday!
@Vinicius_Schneider
@Vinicius_Schneider 6 ай бұрын
One of the best channels on KZbin! Thank you for all the content
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
thank you!
@anancient24
@anancient24 6 ай бұрын
You can trust those handles. If you remove heavy components like the power supplies and drives you can do a diagonal grip and install it by yourself on a good day.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
yeah removing a PSU to give yourself a handle can be a pro move
@zelllers
@zelllers 6 ай бұрын
New clabretro let's goooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@flp322
@flp322 5 ай бұрын
“If that’s not remote management, I don’t know what is.” -clabretro, 2024
@jdarmst
@jdarmst 6 ай бұрын
Totally recommend running the whole rack off of the 240 volts if you can. Efficiency gains are not nothing.
@simon515
@simon515 6 ай бұрын
Again, this machine has the european/nordic sticker which states that it needs to be connected to a grounded electrical outlet so it might have been sourced from Europe. The JDE server identification might stand for Jacobs Douwe Egberts, an American-European coffee company. Anyways, looking forward to the next episode!
@SidebandSamurai
@SidebandSamurai 6 ай бұрын
The Type number is on all IBM equipment. All the way down to workstations and laptops. The Type number can be looked up and it tells you all about the device you have
@csudsuindustries
@csudsuindustries 6 ай бұрын
Back in the day when I was an admin for a Sun e10k I always found it funny that a multi million spec'd our machine was controlled and required Sun's lowest cost desktop to boot from, the Ultra 5. Two of them for that redundant goodness. This was a carryover from Cray when they built sparc and ultrasparc systems. The Cray CS6400 used SparcStation 20 systems (could have been others but I only know of the ss20 being used) and the successor e10k (Starfire.).
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
very cool. those e10ks look like absolute monsters. I have a lead on some ultra machines so hopefully get to cover those soon... no e10k unfortunately haha
@razzledev
@razzledev 6 ай бұрын
This is super cool! As popular as the cloud is these days, there's something that it can't take away from these servers. I hope to own Sun and IBM machines some day running in my basement. Thanks for making content on these machines.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
agreed, and thank you!
@gatisvisnevskis
@gatisvisnevskis 6 ай бұрын
Cool! We have P9, P8, P7 in production and P5, P4+ and PIII in storage. Btw, i have never seen Remote IO drawers in real life, who ever needs 144 PCI network cards ?
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
could get a lot of Serious Business done with 144 PCI cards
@JeffBreyer
@JeffBreyer 4 ай бұрын
EIGHT CORES OF POWER! Love it.
@JMassengill
@JMassengill 6 ай бұрын
The places I worked ran AS400 on the P5’s they had not AIX. I’ve never touched one of these at all as I worked help desk or network/ firewall Great video
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
thanks! hoping to play around with AS400 someday
@chaseohara4781
@chaseohara4781 6 ай бұрын
Serial to USB converters are notorious for 'not working' - what it actually comes down to is that some of the converters use a chip that Windows has drivers built in for, and some require a cumbersome manual driver assignment process (if you can even find the right driver). If you get a cable with the right chip it'll just work.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
yeah, these p5s are just so particular. I have trouble with a direct serial connection to a Linux box too (though it mostly works). if I remember correctly the MRV serial console in my rack plays nice with them though
@teknikal_domain
@teknikal_domain 5 ай бұрын
For anyone else reading, the magical letters, usually, are FTDI. They make the actual USB-to-RS232 UART chip, and WIndows knows how to handle them. I'm a ham radio operator, you would not *believe* how many arguments get started because the factory programming cables for cheap radios use cheap UARTs, but buying one with the correct pinout and an FTDI chip in it just solves all the problems.
@benedykt123313
@benedykt123313 6 ай бұрын
We use those C13 plugs (just the regular IEC plugs, not the bigger C19 plugs) for a lot of our 240V/16A appliances here in Europe, so the C13 should've never been an indicator for just 120V :)
@Uglywut1
@Uglywut1 5 ай бұрын
For your serial problems, there are a few things to check: You absolutely need a null modem cable, and you need to set the speed at 19200 baud. If your server is cabled to an HMC, the serial port is disabled and there's no way to bring it back without a reboot.
@Dylan-or2iu
@Dylan-or2iu 6 ай бұрын
Going off all the JDE nomenclature in the hostname and LPARs, that 550 probably used to be used to host some businesses JD Edwards World ERP platform.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
I think you're right!
@mansnilsson4382
@mansnilsson4382 6 ай бұрын
I suspected as much, and had to ask my wife who is the P Series expert here at home: The NICs can be divided between LPARs just like in the virtualisation platforms that, eh, learnt a lot from IBM. They're connected to VIO servers, which are special LPARs that only perform resource sharing for other LPARs. So, you don't need a NIC per LPAR. What you typically would do is to build a LACP pair (or quad, as it were) into your switching environment, and running that aggregate interface in 802.1q trunk mode, so as to be able to assign different networks to different LPARs. RIO lets you add more I/O drawers for even more PCI slots. Not link separate machines. Has been around a long time; I installed my first multi-drawer machine, a M80, back in 2000. One CEC, (CPU and RAM drawer) and one PIO (Primary I/O, looks like a 520 in its own right.)
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
interesting!
@juanstdio
@juanstdio 6 ай бұрын
Here in argentina we have 220V in our outlets hahaha Great video as always!!!💻
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
thanks! I'll have 220v soon 😂
@heatedpoolandbar
@heatedpoolandbar 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate how the Linksys home network stack is getting taller.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
it's becoming sentient
@hansjanssen3364
@hansjanssen3364 6 ай бұрын
RIO or remote IO connects to what is known as an IO drawer, essentially a similar shaped/sized/coloured box with just a bunch of PCIe slots in them. Your P5 can handle much more peripherals than the 4 slots you have available in the chassis. The other use for the HSL is proprietary switching technology, so you can run HPC jobs on P5 clusters. You can also run GPFS on said cluster, so you can share storage volumes over the cluster nodes. If memory serves me right, the 590 was the biggest you could get, the size of a full rack and pretty loud. Also, IBM gear is very picky about serial connections. You will probably need a proper serial cable, and set it to 9600 baud.
@pierrepignal
@pierrepignal 6 ай бұрын
IBM aint build computers, they build BEAST
@dufflepod
@dufflepod 5 ай бұрын
Great video. I remember the "fun" I had setting an x3850 X5 from eBay. I almost peed my pants when I discovered it had 1 Tb of RAM, albeit DDR2. I still power it up occasionally when I've saved up enough money to cover the electricity bill. Unfortunately now I really want a p5 too. Curse you Clabretro!
@clabretro
@clabretro 5 ай бұрын
1TB of DDR2 should be good enough for anyone 😆
@aaronring2444
@aaronring2444 6 ай бұрын
4:41 MINDBLOW…interchangeable covers!?!? 🤯🤯🤯
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
wild stuff 😂
@powerpower-rg7bk
@powerpower-rg7bk 6 ай бұрын
I want to say that those RIO/HSL slots in the 550Q are only for external expansion slots. For the users that needed them, IBM offered chassis with more PCI-X or PCIe slots. The higher end 570 model is what generally supported a GX bus extender card in those slots which would permit a coherent processor link between multiple chassis. This how IBM builds larger socket count systems using midrange hardware: cable multiple chassis together. This is also how IBM was able to transition from PCI-X to PCIe without having to offer different motherboards: just cable a different external enclosure for the slot type. For the HMC network, I'd be curious if there is any Bonjour/ZeroConf traffic on it. Watching that is another means I've found handy for grabbing IP addresses across different subnets as it is a layer 2 protocol. With regarding the serial console, have you tried adding a null modem adapter to see if that makes the serial port functional? Alternatively have you tried those USB adapters with the serial port on the front with a RJ45 adapter? JDE is likely referring to an ERP application from JD Edwards which after a series of acquisitions is now owned by Oracle. While the LPAR configuration indicates that it was for AIX, JDE was also available for IBM i (aka AS/400) LPARs as well.
@keyboard_g
@keyboard_g 6 ай бұрын
If I had to guess, the drive backing connector was to be extra protective of the connector when plugging drives. Avoid a bad connection damaging a port or drive which in turn damages the next drive or port and so on. That would also explain the nice latching mechanism. The Oxide computer guys talked about those types of issues on their podcast about back when they were at Sun.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
It's certainly more robust than the regular LVD connector, I'll give it that.
@mlprd
@mlprd 6 ай бұрын
consider installing a nema L6-30 twist lock outlet and get yourself a 1U horizontal pdu that has c13 outlets. So you can use the very common / cheap c13-c14 power cords.
@Koutsie
@Koutsie 6 ай бұрын
ohoho yes! new clabretro shenanigans 🎉
@Koutsie
@Koutsie 6 ай бұрын
at 12:58 theres a sticker with some (at least) Swedish and Finnish text mentioning about using a grounded plug to connect the server?? Where has this server been :D
@AnonyDave
@AnonyDave 6 ай бұрын
I've seen one of these going locally for cheap, which is rare. All this interesting stuff unfortunately stopped being cheap quite a few years ago in this part of the world. Only thing stopping me is I can't justify another server of that size. As for powering it thankfully I get 230V at the wall, so just run an extension cord from here as I'm sure the several thousand km won't cause too much transmission loss :D
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
😆
@fokthewef
@fokthewef 6 ай бұрын
Interesting. You seem to cover a lot of things I've worked on 😂😂.. i briefly worked on an IBM power 5 back in 2010 while working for the social security department here in Seychelles. I believe they might still be using it today. It was in an AS/400 which I believe by then had been rebranded to i5 🤔 it was a tower version. IBM servers are always impressive in design and looks. Specially the AS/400 or Power series
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
Very cool! Yeah these pseries trace their lineage back to AS/400.
@bw6378
@bw6378 2 ай бұрын
Before jumping to a mainframe, dont forget to endulge in some AS400 "entertainment" first. lol Thanks for the video.
@kronos2611
@kronos2611 6 ай бұрын
RIO's can be used for more PCI expansion - when it gets fun is if someone nudges the RIO cable when the system is running and boom - dead system :)
@ruf3st
@ruf3st 6 ай бұрын
The front LCD isn't readable probably because its contrast is off, sometimes there is adjustment for that in software. If not then its probably a bad pot/resistor inside next to the LCD, those 2byX displays usually had a pin dedicated to controlling contrast on them.
@schlbus
@schlbus 6 ай бұрын
That HSL link is to stack multiple power machines and share resources. Not really familiar that much with p5 but proto over those wires should be infiniband and should allow sharing of memory&compute or at least allows moving a live LPAR from one chassy to another.
@schlbus
@schlbus 6 ай бұрын
And it has 2 connectors because you could daisy chain p5s in a rack so the connector needs to be robust and probably lock secured to the chassy. O yeah, there is nothing but scsi/FC for storage on systemp5
@Cory-Stewart-
@Cory-Stewart- 19 күн бұрын
Australia 230~240v 10a is standard. 15a & 20a is also available in the standard outlet plug type.
@SproutyPottedPlant
@SproutyPottedPlant 6 ай бұрын
Wow! What an epic monster! 55KG that is super heavy for a computer 😀👍
@imjooboy
@imjooboy 6 ай бұрын
The RIO ports were used to add additional chassis that has more drive bays and more PCI slots for more IO capacity.
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
yeah found out about the various Expansion Units, makes sense for large LPAR setups
@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse
@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse 6 ай бұрын
Those little clips on the drive bays are uniquely suitable for 3D printing replacements!
@clabretro
@clabretro 6 ай бұрын
agreed!
@sciez22
@sciez22 6 ай бұрын
Man the local inspector has such amazing hair.
@computer_toucher
@computer_toucher 6 ай бұрын
Old rack gear is heavy; once I "inherited" a Compaq ProLiant rack (dual PPro 166 server (6u) + drive bays (4u) + ups (6u)) - the UPS alone was 60 kgs lol my poor Citroen CX suspension (couldn't be a better car to move it in, though) e: I forgot the two DLT III drives, massive in themselves)
@mndodd
@mndodd 6 ай бұрын
I'm running my server rack on 240V. It's worth doing for for the slight improvement in PSU efficiency.. Any wide range input voltage devices work just fine.
@todayonthebench
@todayonthebench 27 күн бұрын
13:00 meanwhile as a Swede I am drawn to the note saying: "This machine shall be plugged into an earthed outlet." But in Swedish, Norwegian, and Finish. Danes are apparently left to decode the Swedish and Norwegian for their own use, it is close enough. And yes, having 230 Vac 10/16 amp as one's standard voltage has some real advantages. Main one isn't that 230 X 10 = 2300 watts and one rarely uses anywhere near that much power for even a couple of computers. But rather that with some voltage drop one still gets ample power. Lose 5-10 volts along the way isn't as major as on 110-120 volts where that accounts for a lot larger drop in available power. And the fact that most PSUs already semi struggles to use 110-120 Vac to start with.
IBM System p5 550Q Pt. 2: 240v Power
41:21
clabretro
Рет қаралды 29 М.
How efficient can I build the 100% Arm NAS?
30:09
Jeff Geerling
Рет қаралды 242 М.
How I Did The SELF BENDING Spoon 😱🥄 #shorts
00:19
Wian
Рет қаралды 36 МЛН
Magic trick 🪄😁
00:13
Andrey Grechka
Рет қаралды 51 МЛН
Parenting hacks and gadgets against mosquitoes 🦟👶
00:21
Let's GLOW!
Рет қаралды 13 МЛН
Developing Software for a Sun Fire v440
25:53
clabretro
Рет қаралды 41 М.
Trying to fix Sun Microsystems Equipment
35:43
clabretro
Рет қаралды 24 М.
X520-DA2 Compatible 10GbE NIC Application Presentation
1:00
10Gtek Transceivers Co., LTD
Рет қаралды 1,5 М.
Why did a TIME TRAVELLER need this old IBM computer?
16:35
Retro Recipes
Рет қаралды 1,1 МЛН
IBM ThinkCentre Windows XP Build
31:22
clabretro
Рет қаралды 21 М.
Powering up the IBM Z890 mainframe and teardown - (PWJ148)
51:37
Play with Junk
Рет қаралды 238 М.
Fixing up a Sun Fire v240 from 2003
30:30
clabretro
Рет қаралды 16 М.
Sun Ray Thin Clients Pt.3: Using Windows
31:15
clabretro
Рет қаралды 36 М.
Cisco PIX Failover
37:37
clabretro
Рет қаралды 29 М.
How I Did The SELF BENDING Spoon 😱🥄 #shorts
00:19
Wian
Рет қаралды 36 МЛН