IBOSAD Copper Press Tool Review - $100 ProPress! (See update in description)

[@DragonBuilds]

UPDATE: Do not buy this press tool! It is not manufactured to the proper standards and every single joint made with this tool started leaking after a short period of time. I made a video about the problem here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYGbl32igMqdqrc

[@kimariokiji]

Thanks for the video and the update. Have you found a better, more reliable manual pro press tool?

[@DragonBuilds]

There's the Bluefin tool, but it takes a lot of space to use. You could always rent a real press tool for around $100 a day.

[@kimariokiji]

@@DragonBuilds thanks!

[@PatJones82]

Thanks so much for updating us!

[@1allstarman]

Did you deburr the inside and outside of the pipe ?

[@TheDogDad]

Got the same one. Used it a few times with absolutely zero issues.

[@DragonBuilds]

They changed the design recently

[@JeffMorrisonAdventures]

Still with 0 issues?

[@zaxmaxlax]

I have one, used for pex and multilayer pipe. First thing I did when I bought it was to crimp a fitting and cutting it with a grinder to see the cross section.

[@micheljansen85]

I have the split in half type. 2 years and countless fittings later its still going strong

[@Vincerama]

Do you have a link to it? What do you mean by "split in half" type?

[@joeverdecchio8322]

I have been using this tool for over a year and have had no issues.

[@probuilder6828]

Have you ever pressed 3/4” Viega tee? It would not fit or is just me?

[@joeverdecchio8322]

@@probuilder6828 I’ve been using it for about two years. I don’t use it daily but it has been reliable every time I bust it out. Never had an issue. Yes, I have pressed three-quarter, but not any tees because I typically switch everything to PEX.

[@fasteddie5388]

​@@probuilder6828This version is not meant for T fittings. You have to get the version with the propress jaws

[@rafaeldiazus]

Appreciate the video. Unfortunately its not about whether it can resist a twist, which it didn't. The real issue is ANY water leaks.

[@thecelt4807]

has rubber seal inside treated to resist drying splitting on gas or water , my plumber here used this method on my home water heater (gas) , so im buyinig this tool and doing the next time myself save $$$$$$$$$$$$

[@e8aus]

The finished crimp looked like you used the wrong mold. If that is the case, then that may explain why the joins leak.

[@warrensnow6695]

I have this tool it works good for the regular copper fittings but when I used it for more heavier duty fittings that are made of brass such as a ball valve it can’t provide enough pressure and they leak. I finally bought a proper propress tool.

[@DragonBuilds]

Yeah, this crimper worked fine with JW press fittings but when I tried to crimp a thicker Viega fitting it leaked. The Bluefin press tool works well on brass fittings but needs a lot of space to work, so I only use it in situations like adding a ball valve when the water won't stop flowing.

[@chanceayres6718]

What proper propress tool did you buy Warren?

[@DragonBuilds]

@@chanceayres6718Ridgid and Milwaukee seem to be popular press tool manufacturers

[@chanceayres6718]

@@DragonBuilds thank you but not spending that kind of money. Going to look at other Manual tools

[@DragonBuilds]

@@chanceayres6718 The Bluefin one from supplyhouse.com is pretty good. Definitely avoid these no-name Amazon ones unless you want to come home to a destroyed house and high water bill.

[@daves2822]

I bought one to try it, I crimped on one viego 3/4 to 2 separate scrap pieces. I had it set flush, and did the work. I could see the pipes weren't straight and the crimp looked like it didn't take al the way. After that I returned it and ill stick with solder

[@davidchoi3628]

People hate it cuz they got propress don’t want lose customers 😂

[@jamiebennett6354]

bought mine from Vevor, did about 20 -1/2 inch crimps no problem, did 4 -3/4 no problem wasn't able to crimp the lower part of a 'T' fitting as the body gets in the way, that's when it started to lock up on me as in the head wouldn't unlatch from the body unless I hit it, this continues to this day, Vevor started acting stupid and saying I have a 1/4, 1/2. 5/8 tool and it didn't do 3/4 fittings (I had purchased a bending tool they were talking about) basically they kept going back and forth about me not knowing how to use such a simple tool, gave up on trying to get a refund or exchange (they no longer sell this tool now have manual ones) and stop doing business with them. just more Chinese crap. this tool looks exactly like mine case and all I'm guessing the only difference is the name on the case

[@GrenshawHomes1977]

Bought it 2 years ago...just used it with zero issues....the other one....need some coordination though...one fitting i pressed at slight angle but no leaks(outside faucet stuff)

[@DragonBuilds]

Hmmm, I think it must be a quality control problem as some people have had good luck with the tool and others have leaks everywhere.

[@fasteddie5388]

​@DragonBuilds Definitely quality control problems. It's made in China. But I've tried two different ones from IBOSAD and both worked well. It was the HT-1950-N And the HT1950-ZHENGTI, which is what I have now.

[@DragonBuilds]

@@fasteddie5388 I agree that it is likely a quality control problem but they also cut corners when it comes to design.

[@fasteddie5388]

@@DragonBuilds The design of the one you're using I think they have cut corners. The hydraulic pushes one roller up into I to the other die and crushes it. I can see how that might cause an issue. Especially after seeing how it it leaves the large protruding pinch marks after being pressed. The newer ones do not do that. Especially the one I have where you have different sized jaws for different pipe OD. It leaves very little pinch marks. I think they have refined the design over the last few years.

[@DragonBuilds]

@@fasteddie5388 I have the manual iCrimp/Bluefin tool (rebranded) and it works great, I think their hydraulic version should work well too.

[@hosslane320]

So press joint , back off , turn 90 degrees , or a quarter of a turn , and repress ? Does that sound right ?

[@DragonBuilds]

No, there is no need to repress. Also, I do not recommend this tool as it has issues with leaks.

[@dalemihocik4732]

Looks very clumsy to use and would require three hands to position, hold, and press together. Not to mention the cost of those fittings, only real benefit is connecting pipe that is wet. I'll stick to soldering.

[@metallitech]

I love the sound it makes.

[@benconnor3625]

This would be useful if you were just wanting to convert from copper to pex every time you dealt with copper as a service tech... if it were reliable.... apparently it isn't

[@garagekeys]

Why not just solder if you are doing a water heater?

[@dsano4714]

Nah I’ll never bring a torch out ever again

[@efrianlavine850]

Fire liability insurance costs is why.

[@martinmarin841]

How long is it going to take me to repipe an entire house?? A year,???

[@reececline2377]

If you're piping an entire house rent a real pro press, this is more for homegamers

[@rtwmanny]

Still faster than sanding and sweating a pipe I'd say.

There are different clamps available for this tool. If I'm not mistaken yours is V type. There are also TH, U, S, M. But hard to find separately sadly.

[@DragonBuilds]

This tool claimed to be compatible with the ProPress system sold in North America, so there is obviously something wrong with it.

@@DragonBuilds must be a AliExpress thing. Just saw them being sold there. There probably not well calibrated. Also found the different jaws there too. (for cheap obviously)

[@paulweston8184]

@@DragonBuilds ProPress? Good to know. I've been searching for different die inserts to fit this tool and Alibaba was the only place I've found so far. Shipping costs are $39.95 alone.

[@DragonBuilds]

@@paulweston8184 If you really need a press tool I would suggest either getting the Bluefin one from supplyhouse.com or renting an electric one from a local plumbing supply store.

[@drewd7824]

Can you find different size jaws?

[@tomniielander944]

the tool comes with 1/2, 3/4, and 1" jaws

[@Lord_Joseph17]

is this good for hvac ac lines?

[@DragonBuilds]

It isn't good for anything as all the joints made with it started leaking.

[@wemcal]

Great information

[@thecelt4807]

in australia these or similar are $100 for 4 hours to a day for hire so great value this buy if you have a few days worth of work , i would buy instead of hire for sure

[@88kwthomas]

I just got quoted $450 for a plumber to do this after I did all the blocking work and everything!

[@Raysmaintenance]

I have had one for 3y works good

[@DragonBuilds]

I read that they recently changed the design, since I saw some good reviews of the tool from a couple years ago and they seemed to be fine back then.

[@Raysmaintenance]

@@DragonBuilds the only thing different with mine and yours is my fittings are black --- i have never had a leak in 3y i ever did a video on it --- thanks for sharing

[@DragonBuilds]

@@Raysmaintenance The postive reviews all show the tool with black crimping dies. I think the silver ones are made with less precision or poor quality materials.

[@tonyfeliciano4162]

Does it work on air conditioning?

[@DragonBuilds]

No, just for plumbing

[@dominicm2175]

If you can find the correct size jaw(s) and fittings it will work on air conditioning lines. Unfortunately the jaws are not compatible with the more popular’ pro-press’ tools

[@phillipkim1618]

Cool video

[@FrustratedBaboon]

It is garbage based on what I am seeing. It squeezed the copper and did not put the hex imprint in to stop twisting. Cheap is cheap and the designer just had to follow some simple tolerance steps to make it 1000 percent better.

[@zaxmaxlax]

Bullshit, it works just fine. The seal is the O ring.

[@nrw_quixcope]

You can always trust Amazon when it comes to coming up with the weirdest names for their brands.

[@paulweston8184]

Ibosad is a Chinese brand like Lenovo nitwit.

[@nrw_quixcope]

@@paulweston8184 Yeah, but not as big as Lenovo and can only be sold on Amazon.

[@phuturephunk]

@@paulweston8184 Dude, it's a procedurally generated name, like so many Chinese suppliers use on Amazon, Aliexpress and other sites. It has to do with the trademark office and how things are processed. Vox did a whole video on the weird names you see on places like Amazon marketplace and why it's absolutely destroyed the trademark and patent system by overloading them with absolute garbage.

[@vanderleimartins218]

bom dia amigo! quanto custa a máquina?

[@kfe1026]

I'd be careful telling people to stay away from this product based on no more than your anecdotal experience. It is essentially the same technology as a 3k$ Milwaukee press; with the big distinguishing [hand pump] hydraulic press being the only BIG difference. I work as a plumber, and it's not uncommon for even the $3k+ pro presses to occasionally not hold tight on a coupling connection. But you to say that ALL your connections were pretty much leaking? - This leads me to believe that you may not have thoroughly understood or even learned proper operation of the tool. Personally, if I were making a review and / or instructional video, I would've shown my viewers (myself being both familiar and pleased with the exact same product) that we would be calibrating our new tool first and foremost, with the calibration kit provided, and then, prior to operation on any job going forward! -calibration checks and/or adjustments take literally 30 seconds FYI. Anyone familiar with plumbing, and really any occupations / vocations focused on the importance of mathematical prescion, knows just how important it is and, furthermore, the ramifications of mere millimeters. Also, to anyone looking for further tips: always ensure that you are coming down on the coupling straight... file and debur just as you would approach a solder connection [as you can slice the inner rubber ring)... and lastly, mind your proximity of any joints that you may have to sweat instead of press, as the heat can easily melt the rubber ring (the most vital component within your press connection). Happy plumbing out there, and for the record, it's easily one of my favorite tools nowadays; especially considering the fraction of a cost it imposed on me in comparison to the electrical ones!

[@DragonBuilds]

While the technology is identical, I found that this no-name tool’s jaws are imprecise and couldn’t crimp the fitting completely.

[@michaelmounts1269]

i have a similar tool (albeit a lot more expensive)…but still prefer sweating (solder)copper pipes…i really try to use PEX (type A)…which is outstanding…no longer use copper at all…

[@warrensnow6695]

I agree sweating is much more superior than any other fitting. The only time the press fitting is the best is when you have a hard time getting water out of a system and that’s when those press fittings really shine.

[@DragonBuilds]

I like using PEX-A as well, but some applications require copper as PEX can't be used outdoors (sunlight degrades it).

[@waltercortese9946]

The biggest beef I have with this tool is it won’t fit in tight spots. For diy use, go sharkbite. For a professional, pro press is the way to go but I’m not seeing a logical way around the 2000 investment.

[@DragonBuilds]

Honestly, I would say that you are better off soldering.

[@fasteddie5388]

There are better versions of this tool that work well and can fit in tight spots and is perfect for a DIYer.

[@plumbrose1]

The crimp is not supposed to seal the fitting. Once the fitting is pushed onto the copper, the "O" ring in the fitting engages and makes the seal. The crimp secures pipe onto fitting.

[@DragonBuilds]

Press fittings are actually designed so they don't seal until they're pressed. That way, unpressed fittings can be identified before they cause a big problem.

[@plumbrose1]

@@DragonBuilds The O ring is engaged once the fitting is pushed on the pipe...

[@DragonBuilds]

@@plumbrose1 Viega fittings have a small groove that is designed to leak until the fitting is pressed. Not sure how other press fittings work.

[@rogermurph101]

@@plumbrose1yeah, the o-ring is engaged, but it’s not going to stand up to water pressure until the fitting is crimped. Without crimping, it will leak. Even if the fitting stays put.

[@williardbillmore5713]

There is a name for people who use propress fittings. They are called "flooded".

[@DragonBuilds]

Press fittings have been reliably used in Europe for decades, but this manual press tool is poorly made and caused several leaks.

[@williardbillmore5713]

@@DragonBuilds You can blame the tool if it makes you feel better I blame the concept. I have seen O ring crimp connectors start leaking months after assembly. I will take a few minutes to solder sweat my plumbing and never have to think about it again. Alloy is your ally towards peace of mind.

[@DragonBuilds]

@@williardbillmore5713 I prefer soldering as well, but ProPress definitely has its places.

[@williardbillmore5713]

@@DragonBuilds Would you use them inside the walls of YOUR home?

[@DragonBuilds]

@@williardbillmore5713 Yes, absolutely. My partner's summer cottage is plumbed using a combination of PEX and press fittings for both domestic water and heating.

[@siwy12341ify]

i rather solder anytime unless you have valve that's not holding. i dont really want to get bread when on a job xD

[@DragonBuilds]

I agree, especially after the press tool made a bunch of leaky joints.

[@pedropunjabi7339]

Takes a month just to press one side of the fitting

[@condadopr]

No way! No quality control… once it leaks and floods the basement you are in trouble

[@jcaleca60]

Thank you great video I got one of these for Christmas From my girlfriend

[@wellardo8833]

Pretty sure I can solder faster than this tool.

[@cruz47144]

Just bought one on Amazon it's $150. Now

[@DragonBuilds]

I wouldn't recommend using it, it doesn't crimp the joints fully which lead to many leaks developing after a few weeks.

[@abelvargas5473]

My next purchase defenetely

[@garagekeys]

No way that's going to leak....lol

[@DragonBuilds]

It ended up leaking and I had to redo everything. I'll just solder from now on.

[@garagekeys]

@@DragonBuilds I prefer to solder, but like anything I guess propress has it's place

[@kupokraft3685]

Anyone use a non shitty tool? Even the pro plumber I called over a main leak used propress and it's held for 2 years now. I guess Europe has used it for decades too

[@patterdalezipsuzilil]

Throu it in the bin use solder

[@DragonBuilds]

At least solder won’t leak!

[@lewisjones6952]

I just bought this tool 😔

[@DragonBuilds]

At least you can hopefully still return it

[@fordjohnson5321]

Thanks.. there wasn’t a useful manual…

[@longrange1114]

some folks will likely not see your update and will go out and buy this tool. You should delete this vid because if someone can't or doesn't read your update your video is creating problems..

[@thetruejay20]

They make an updated press

[@Trad6166]

Dude don’t release the hydraulics so much and you want have to pump up the next one so much

[@tmilholin7552]

that joint will leak like a siv

[@mycaddigo]

Check that one off my list

[@vanderleimartins218]

sou do Brasil

[@DragonBuilds]

não está disponível no Brasil. Eu recomendo simplesmente soldar o cobre, pois é mais barato e confiável.

[@djkaneck1]

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