Ic 7300 SSB power adjustment. No soldering, service menu adjustment mod

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Ed Edison

Ed Edison

Күн бұрын

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@BeavistheLizard
@BeavistheLizard 5 күн бұрын
This really helped me, I took note of the previous settings and then changed the two you show here. You have to press SET before4 moving to the AM settings and then Set again for them, Many thanks, it was my FM signal which was showing low 60watts it is still not quite hitting a 100 but its about 90 watts which can drive my big amp better (wants to see at least 100 watts)
@BeavistheLizard
@BeavistheLizard 5 күн бұрын
Oh and by the way - little advise for filming videos, try and film things in landscape mode.. not narrow like this. It is a terrible format. Movies don't do it.. so neither should we Unless you are trying to film a full body shot.. or a tree or tall building.
@DK5ONV
@DK5ONV 4 жыл бұрын
The first 3 things I did after FedEx dropped off the Box infront of my feet was, replacing the factory fan with an more efficient and super silent Noctua FAN, MARS CAP and RF-PWR MOD's. Everyting else on this radio is just fine the way it came from the Manufacturer. Thx for sharing this video with us. Stay safe & merry x-mas! 73's de Günter
@johnforte3466
@johnforte3466 4 жыл бұрын
One more thing if you do this video again. Recommend taking a snapshot of all the readings before you turn the knob. Just In case there is a problem you can go back to the original settings. These adjustments are made individually to each rig and there is no default or reset to go back to. I did this mod to my rig and works great. If you use an amp you may want to make sure there is not much overshoot with this mod.
@2025_Is_Going_To_Be_Great
@2025_Is_Going_To_Be_Great 11 ай бұрын
Also recommend not recording video in portrait mode.
@stevetrook5155
@stevetrook5155 4 жыл бұрын
THank You Ed, Doing this coupled with being a bit more conservative using ALC brigs out a more clear studio quality sounding audio with full output power. My max power before the adjustment was 85 watts. which as per icom is commercially acceptable. I am more satisfied with the radio sound and performance now. Using a Heil HM-12 2with an 8 band EQ.
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I been getting a lot of flack from some people who have not done it or have not had to do it
@bb_37
@bb_37 3 жыл бұрын
"Studio quality" from a radio that only transmits 100 Hz to 2900 Hz on SSB? I don't think so.
@mikez104
@mikez104 Ай бұрын
Wow, amazing how many people are here to just trash your video. If it's not up to your standards, move the hell on. Quality might not be the best but wtf, you were just trying to make a video to help people. And if you go on their channels, you will see that they contribute nothing at all. So to counter all the frigging whiners, thanks for making the video :)
@djflexlive
@djflexlive 4 жыл бұрын
I think several people are frustrated by the ssb power output, me too... I was 30w lower compared to the ft991 with new finals. Thanks for the tip.
@MrTalaue
@MrTalaue 3 жыл бұрын
You should measure power in SSB with a PEP wattmeter!
@AirGunScientist
@AirGunScientist 2 жыл бұрын
I have same issue with my 7610 using a proper PEP Meter. My 7610 shows 30W on SSB, `100 on FM, My 991A shows 100W on SSB and FM. Others that receive me are reading my 7610 a full 2 S-Units less than my 991A. Most will flame with the response "Get a proper meter" when they didn't take time to read the facts (Rxd with 2 less S-Units). Icom states the ALC is overly aggressive. I could elaborate, but you already know the truth. 73 and best to you.
@djflexlive
@djflexlive 2 жыл бұрын
@@AirGunScientist I tried a couple of things. I bought a 'close to' real PEP power meter (daiwa CN-901). I will say according to the precision, mine IC7300 is delivering 90~95w without the mod. So I will recommend to revert the mod to the original settings you had if you take care to write the factory values as it depends each rigs. ALC is over agressive yes, but it reachs no problem the 100w. For the 2 S-Units on reception, using same antenna and locally (40~80m) , it's almost hard to believe. 2 S-Units, 12 db means: If they receive you with 10w @s5 , you need 20w to get 5.5 S-U, 40w to get 6 S-U, 80 to get 6.5 S-U and 160w to reach s7 (2 unit difference between S5 @10w and S9 @160w). It's an example for sure but 2 S Units it's huge. Even with this mod you won't get 2 more S Units if you follow the 'power rules'
@AirGunScientist
@AirGunScientist 2 жыл бұрын
@@djflexlive Yaesu 991A shows +90-95W, IC-7610 shows 30W. Yaesu 991A gives 2 full S-units higher reading vs IC-7610
@djflexlive
@djflexlive 2 жыл бұрын
@@AirGunScientist ok. A good test can be to test it yourself with online websdr to check the audio, signal and band with scope, it may help you digging the issue also
@mrbill7653
@mrbill7653 15 күн бұрын
What was the original setting before changing it to (4.901V) ??
@modex20
@modex20 4 жыл бұрын
What was the original voltage? Also did you see a peak in RF power (where it went back down as you continue to increase then backed off)?
@CedricPOG14CP070
@CedricPOG14CP070 4 жыл бұрын
73s Zes small question while spanking the voltage change of the driver your ALC no longer exceeds the red line it is stabilized thank you.
@mrbill7653
@mrbill7653 4 ай бұрын
What should the % be for the AM power?
@JackSquat54
@JackSquat54 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed your adjustment on HF 100% went (4.901 V) around and back to (4.901 V) again. The same setting. Was i looking at the wrong number ? I don't get it. Please explain what numbers i should be looking at. If you decide to shoot the video again, would you consider wearing a neck brace ? That might keep the video more steady ! nyuk nyuk !
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 3 жыл бұрын
As you turn the tuning knob, the voltage will change, just keep it under 5 v
@gianlucavirdis_guitarist
@gianlucavirdis_guitarist 2 жыл бұрын
Obscene video badly made and poorly explained
@JackSquat54
@JackSquat54 Жыл бұрын
Ok, i got it to work. Thanks Ed. The biggest problem i had was the light on your smart phone created a glare on the radio screen which made the screen hard to read.
@KenPaisley
@KenPaisley 3 жыл бұрын
People that dont use any processor have low output. Tweak your audio settings and leave the safe factory settings alone!
@rickmckee6698
@rickmckee6698 4 жыл бұрын
My 7300 put out full power out of the box as long as I kept the ALC within range. Crank the mic gain and compression up too high and it folds back to limit output, I keep my mic gain low enough to go no higher than 1/3 or 1/2 on the ALC and it shows about 105 watts out on the meter. No service menu adjustment or internal mods, no soldering at all and it took about 5 minutes to do if that long !
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
The older models have this problem. Newer ones seem to have full output
@ryantoomey611
@ryantoomey611 4 жыл бұрын
Be careful adjusting the AM power level, if not set perfectly you can cause over-modulation. You should double check with an oscilloscope.
@JackSquat54
@JackSquat54 3 жыл бұрын
I finally got the pep problem solved. I think i might have forgotten to push SET. My carrier output has gone up to about 150 watts on Rtty but i adjusted the power setting to 85% with brought actual carrier to 100 W
@michelbijnsdorp2564
@michelbijnsdorp2564 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Ed, which software version (seen at startup) are you running ? In ver 1.30 it think it is not possible to adjust the TX 100% level
@floradiobidouille
@floradiobidouille 4 жыл бұрын
biensur que si
@stevetrook5155
@stevetrook5155 4 жыл бұрын
Oh and those that are wondering.... Radio is still clean no splatter.
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
I have good reports too
@vidasvv
@vidasvv 4 жыл бұрын
Was that just a regular power meter or PEP ? Regular wattmeter with 100W will read about 40W on SSB. I just got my 7300 couple days ago but haven't had a chance yet to make any measurements or look up the specs on it's finals but am will to bet it's just a matter of time before before it goes back for new finals. My Flex 6600 shows about 40W unless I use PEP meter or spectrum analyzer. When and where is ur net ? 73
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
I NCS on Thursday 7.185 6:30 est a year and no issues
@CedricPOG14CP070
@CedricPOG14CP070 4 жыл бұрын
the change in voltage AC does no risk anything for the substation ?
@ariniemi2034
@ariniemi2034 4 жыл бұрын
Seems you have big swr in your dummyload? When using internal tuner with swr i thhink your power meter show too much power?
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
I have the calibration knob all the way up. I do this so I can get the flattest swr on my antenna tuner. It's about 1.3/1 on the load
@donr2670
@donr2670 2 жыл бұрын
Do you enjoy IC7300 as much as IC751a? IC7300 does more but smaller and lighter?
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's better
@terrytaylor9349
@terrytaylor9349 4 жыл бұрын
WHY, WHY, WHY shoot the video vertical? We DO NOT look at the world vertically. You should ALWAYS shoot vertical horizontal!
@mike-sanschwen4771
@mike-sanschwen4771 4 жыл бұрын
Amen, amen, AMEN!!!!!!! Good video, but almost wasted..! K0JTA
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
Cause I'm stupid. Maybe I'll reshoot
@AirGunScientist
@AirGunScientist 3 жыл бұрын
@@ededison9404 Great video. Thank you.
@mm7bvp
@mm7bvp 2 жыл бұрын
@@ededison9404 two years late just saw this.. Yeah you'd have to be stupid to ruin a radio like this
@przemysawalbin4939
@przemysawalbin4939 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a problem with your manual. I go to that menu and find TX power 100% HF, It is set to 4.333V so I change it to 4.901V and HIT SET then the radio change my setup to custom 4.333V. Do You have any idea whats going on ?
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 3 жыл бұрын
No
@shaunlee6511
@shaunlee6511 2 жыл бұрын
I'm having the same problem, did you ever figure it out?
@393bird
@393bird 4 жыл бұрын
The content of this is excellent, but as stated by others, being videoed vertically hurts it overall. Would be worth the effort to redo it.
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
I MIGHT ,
@vu3mes
@vu3mes 4 жыл бұрын
Just touch the bottom square, it will be full screen video.
@edwardmichalski463
@edwardmichalski463 3 жыл бұрын
not sure why you need to do this adjustment. Doesn't this rig come adjustment and tuned from the factory ?
@JackSquat54
@JackSquat54 3 жыл бұрын
My 7300 only modulates up to 35%W on SSB at full power setting from the factory. Even into my dummy load. I purchased the rig Dec 31, 2020. My old Icom 745 modulates a full 100 % on ssb and my modulation was only about 60 %. But the ALC adjustment did not work. My guess is a former owner had it defeated. I would like to modulate 60% W SSB into my Ameritron 811H. But the 7300 won't even achieve that.
@HamRadioPogaduchyPA1RAF
@HamRadioPogaduchyPA1RAF 4 жыл бұрын
Hallo and thx for the video. Icom has no problem with output power. Icom has problem with ALC. I have 100w i FM or RTTY mode without any modification. If you change this adjustment You change output power on FM and RTTY mode, instead of 100w you get 120w!. Do not look what shows you power meter only on SSB mode. Icom says... FM klasse A-100w, SSB klasse - C that means 40% less power. 73 REGARDS from Netherlands
@MrTalaue
@MrTalaue 3 жыл бұрын
SSB is not 40% less power, use the correct measurement methode for SSB!
@HamRadioPogaduchyPA1RAF
@HamRadioPogaduchyPA1RAF 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrTalaue Has absolut 40% less power.....if you have 100w, you dont have a originel service factory setings. Dont care about my meseurement methods, i know what's im seing.
@MrTalaue
@MrTalaue 3 жыл бұрын
@@HamRadioPogaduchyPA1RAF sure, you are the greatest
@HamRadioPogaduchyPA1RAF
@HamRadioPogaduchyPA1RAF 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrTalaue i know..😀
@kirkjohnson8259
@kirkjohnson8259 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ed. KD9REK 73
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 Жыл бұрын
Great, I'll be on Santa net later tonight 3.916
@JackSquat54
@JackSquat54 3 жыл бұрын
I must have missed a step somewhere. There is no increase in ssb power. In fact i lost ssb power. I started/stopped the video 3 or 4 times. The process took me about 7 minutes. My dummy load started smoking. There was no oil in it ! Duh ! I will try again but first i will turn down RF % to zero. I think your instructions are well intentioned, but either not explained correctly or they are incorrect. Your RF power meter started at 100% and ended up at 100 % There was no peak up in power. My settings initially in HF power 100% were around ( 4. 200 V). Could it be the (4. 901 V) was the final setting you set your rig to ? I downloaded the service manual. I will take a look at it.
@rmollise
@rmollise 3 жыл бұрын
You're not missing anything. Doing these CB-style mods to increase "talk power"? Unneeded and a recipe for a lousy signal. At best.
@DiamondJim2023
@DiamondJim2023 2 жыл бұрын
This just affects ssb only right ? Not fm or am are affected ! Thanks
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 2 жыл бұрын
No it will increase am, you can turn it down on the next setting, am ratio power
@sebastiencrepin9030
@sebastiencrepin9030 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Ed Edison, Why ICOM does not make this modification in the factory and that we are obliged to do this manipulation. I am afraid that the IC7300 will heat up or break down Is there a risk ? F4FUB
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
OF COURSE , But it's BEEN FINE For ME 6 MONTHS
@CedricPOG14CP070
@CedricPOG14CP070 4 жыл бұрын
hello nice video I have a question when you made your change you were plugged into a 14mhz antenna or a dummy load?
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
i was using a dummy load, but 14mhz antenna would be fine
@CedricPOG14CP070
@CedricPOG14CP070 4 жыл бұрын
@@ededison9404 ok thank you
@CedricPOG14CP070
@CedricPOG14CP070 4 жыл бұрын
@@ededison9404 but with a dummy load of 1000 mhz 50 ohms 100 watts HF ca would do it
@andrewnichols7410
@andrewnichols7410 3 жыл бұрын
It's your radio, do what you want. That being said, just adjust your audio, and the ALC to where it should be. My 7300 puts out 105 w out of the box with clean audio. It's not that complicated really, it just takes what we should all be doing anyhow.
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 3 жыл бұрын
The 1st production run of this rig only did 60w on SSB, it's great yours has full output. My amp was only doing a measley 800w. That's why
@DiamondJim2023
@DiamondJim2023 2 жыл бұрын
Just tried this on my new 7300, 11-9-22 and followed the steps. It didn’t work, hmmmm. Went back to the default setting ! What could i be doing wrong ! I did hit the set button and it went back to default ! Thanks, Jim L.
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 2 жыл бұрын
Press SET
@Roadrunner48
@Roadrunner48 Жыл бұрын
@@ededison9404 DiamondJim wrote: I did hit the set button. If you can read correctly, you have a clear advantage!
@ryantoomey611
@ryantoomey611 4 жыл бұрын
I have the opposite problem, mine is showing 115 watts out of the box with RF power set to 100%. I want to adjust it because I am concerned it may damage the finals overtime. Don't know why they don't calibrate the power at the factory.
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
I been tuning up my big loop with 200w on rtty for a yr and about 115w ssb I don't think you will have a problem
@floradiobidouille
@floradiobidouille 4 жыл бұрын
@@ededison9404 le 7300 a 150 waat donc 2x75 waat commentr a tu fait pour 200waat sur rtty
@erikspirit2270
@erikspirit2270 4 жыл бұрын
@@floradiobidouille Alors FLO ou MANU? Tu cherches a gonfler le 7300 !!! Pas bien ça !!! BONNE ANNEE 2021 MON GARS !!!
@SV1RXI
@SV1RXI 2 жыл бұрын
is this change of the hidden menu going to affect the radio in any other things ??
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 2 жыл бұрын
NOT THAT I NOTICED
@624radicalham
@624radicalham 2 жыл бұрын
@@ededison9404 Ed help me out with something. I tried to reach you on the air when you were NCS but conditons weren't there. Let's talk about AM power. I did the mod 2 years ago and it's great for SSB but of course my AM carrier is way too high. Like 100 watts at full power setting. You started to mention adjusting the AM power in this video but you lost your train of thought and didn't finish what you were about to say ... so how do I bring that AM carrier level down now? The service manual has adjustments but I wanna hear it from you because you explain well. What are the before and after settings? If you can't remember then give me a run down as to how to actually raise and lower it. I'm afraid my meter may might not be accurate. Either way, I need the actual method to bring it the AM carrier down WITHOUT affecting the SSB peak power.
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 2 жыл бұрын
@@624radicalham there is an am power setting that I turned down, let me look
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 2 жыл бұрын
@@624radicalham yes it's #8 power am ratio
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 2 жыл бұрын
@@624radicalham www.manualslib.com/manual/1144592/Icom-Ic-7300.html
@CedricPOG14CP070
@CedricPOG14CP070 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Zes Smallville question is it a antenna tout tube on 140000 MHZ tous validate the New value beacaus i canal not validate it because I am with a 27 MHZ antenna it is maybe because off thank you For you answer.
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
You need a dummy load then
@CedricPOG14CP070
@CedricPOG14CP070 4 жыл бұрын
@@ededison9404 ok for a Jimmy lord ans tous validate the value pres SET
@CedricPOG14CP070
@CedricPOG14CP070 4 жыл бұрын
@@ededison9404 my crurent value ans 4.372V must be est 4.901V
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
@@CedricPOG14CP070 I'm running at 5.00 volts now. Not much different than 4.91
@CedricPOG14CP070
@CedricPOG14CP070 4 жыл бұрын
@@ededison9404 ok is tour ALC stable now with your change un value
@modex20
@modex20 4 жыл бұрын
Why would you need to adjust the AM carrier power?
@JackSquat54
@JackSquat54 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed Ed's adjustment jumped the power setting on his rig to 47% on AM. He adjusted it back down to 25%
@djflexlive
@djflexlive 3 жыл бұрын
Waka Waka . Hey Hey !
@brabus8317
@brabus8317 4 жыл бұрын
Why did you have to low down power on AM ??????
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
Am uses 3 times as much as SSB.cw.rtty. I did it as a precaution. I imagine you could go up a bit more. But I believe it was at 100w am. I don't want to damage my rig
@brabus8317
@brabus8317 4 жыл бұрын
@@ededison9404 ok. I did it as you showed. the radio works great
@rebelliners
@rebelliners 4 жыл бұрын
trying to understand why did you have to do this?
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
WASN'T DRIVING MY AMP AS WELL AS MY OLD RADIO , SOME ARE GETTING FULL OUTPUT FROM FACTORY , MINE WAS 65 WATTS
@rebelliners
@rebelliners 4 жыл бұрын
@@ededison9404 what model is your Amp?
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
@@rebelliners dentron MLA 2500
@1Meechee
@1Meechee 10 ай бұрын
Don’t do this mod. It will cause your transmit to have distortion. It will also interfere with the way the alc does business. The ic-7300 does transmit 100 watts pep. If you want more power, use compression. That’s the trick. The mod will cause you to have a dirty signal. The ic-7300 does have 100 watts pep. Don't forget the Crest Factor. If you read 40 watts on an average watt meter the crest factor is times 2.5. That would be 100 watts PEP. Leave the radio alone.
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 10 ай бұрын
To all of the thousands of people who out of the blue comment on how awesome my audio is, please stop lying to me everyday
@Mcbte
@Mcbte 2 жыл бұрын
It no longer works with FW 1.41
@johnkatz5820
@johnkatz5820 Жыл бұрын
Are there a solution?
@norrlins
@norrlins Жыл бұрын
Tried it made no difference at all . Still low power on ssb
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 Жыл бұрын
Did you remember to hit the set when finished?
@Volgasmetdietroep
@Volgasmetdietroep 2 жыл бұрын
You dont measure 100watts out on SSB because it doesnt have a carrier like AM or FM.. your PEAK will be 100 watts, altough you will have to whistle in the mike to see it.
@californiakayaker
@californiakayaker 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't do any side band adjustments without a pep meter. Check out this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rILceoF6d9qrd6c
@ConsumerTeamPete
@ConsumerTeamPete 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Ed! Thanks for the info. KE5GGY
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 4 жыл бұрын
thx Pete
@MrTalaue
@MrTalaue 3 жыл бұрын
Bad idea
@rmollise
@rmollise 3 жыл бұрын
Even easier? GET YOURSELF A PEAK READING WATTMETER.
@mikegianfrancesco9431
@mikegianfrancesco9431 2 жыл бұрын
your radio will not last doing this mod
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 2 жыл бұрын
How many more years till it blows up? Already been 2 years but I only use the rig as a NCS and only about 2- 10 hours a day
@mikegianfrancesco9431
@mikegianfrancesco9431 2 жыл бұрын
@@ededison9404 it depends on usage but changing service menu is a bad idea because they are set for a reason
@624radicalham
@624radicalham 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikegianfrancesco9431 Maybe you haven't heard of the ALC issue in these and other Icom radios. Google it. I'm still waiting for mine to blow up too. I did this in 2020 and still going strong, using it DAILY and peaking 150 watts on SSB. Just don't run digital modes and you'll be fine. Rumors that this will damage your radio are a myth. The only way to damage a 7300 is if you screw up the settings in the service menu or blast it full power on a continuous mode. If you follow this video there is no problem.
@ededison9404
@ededison9404 Жыл бұрын
3 YRS NOW
@dennisdeckmann9336
@dennisdeckmann9336 3 ай бұрын
Poor camera operation, out of focus. Take a nap and stop educating operators WRONGLY.
@sadstott103
@sadstott103 4 жыл бұрын
I think you should really get to grips with ssb signals...stop using cheap analogue meters and use an osclloscope...pointless mod
@friluftslivitrndelag4589
@friluftslivitrndelag4589 2 жыл бұрын
Great way to ruin a superb radio. You`ll need a PEAK HOLDING METER to se the real output on SSB. I`ll bet it was a correct 100w..
@gianlucavirdis_guitarist
@gianlucavirdis_guitarist 2 жыл бұрын
Obscene video badly made and poorly explained
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